Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) is not surprised by revelations that Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) “patronized brothels and call girls.” In an interview with Capitol News Connection radio service, DeMint said, “I think all of us have to look at it and say, ‘We can be next. … This can be a very lonely and isolating place.’ I’m fairly surprised at how little it does happen.”
I love Think Progress. It’s one of my favorite sites, but something bugs me. Sometimes you have very dishonest headlines. Fox news dishonest. I know the temptation is to stoop to their level, but please don’t. This has been bugging me for a while, and you do it all the time.
DeMint could ‘be next’ to be caught patronizing prostitutes.
You use like a 2 word quote, to make it sound like someone said something they didn’t. DeMint didn’t say he could be next, he said “We can be next.” Sure, “We” includes “him”, but the headline is still dishonest.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:07 amWow the spin never stops here does it.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:07 amGot sick of that whole “reality based community” deal pretty quick didn’t you.
But for the grace of God . . .
July 13th, 2007 at 10:08 am“We can be next” Senator DeMint? Only if you’ve used the services of a prostitute! For example, I CAN’T BE NEXT, SINCE I’VE NEVER PAID FOR SEX.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:09 amPride goes before the fall.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:12 amso far the names are all right-wing…
July 13th, 2007 at 10:12 amTP put his full quote in the quick blog under the title. And the title is not misleading at all. DeMint is the one talking, indicating “we could be next” which includes him, and he’s IMPLYING that he is guilty or has had thoughts of doing that as well, otherwise he wouldn’t have said it.
It’s only a dishonest headline if you don’t bother thinking and/or reading the actual article.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:13 amJake,
It has nothing to do with the “grace of God” or “pride.” It has everything to do with illegally paying for sex from a prostitute.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:13 amWhorewmongers and adulterers! Let’s stone them!
Naw, I’m not even religious, let’s just get stoned and laugh at them.
-GSD
July 13th, 2007 at 10:13 amRepublicans Can’t Govern:
I take it you are not a United States Senator? That’s who “we” referred to.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:18 amJake, why did you run from the thread that discusses actual issues and not who is boinking whom?
July 13th, 2007 at 10:18 amTo find out more about Republican sex scandals, go here:
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals
Herewith a small sample. You will notice a distinct pattern of pedophilia:
Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman, pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child.Honolulu Star-Bulletin Article
Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet. Source: Newmax
Roy Cohn, continually condemned gays and gay rights. Was a closet gay who died of AIDS. Wikipedia Article
Carey Lee Cramer Political consultant and anti-Kerry ad producer, tried for molesting two young girls, one of whom lived with him, and was 8 yrs old; the other starred in an anti-Kerry commercial. Diary Diary. The Monitor.
Dan Crane, Republican Congressman, married, father of six. Received a 100% “Morality Rating” from Christian Voice. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page. Salon.com article On July 20, the House voted for censure Crane, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct.[7]
Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN). Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay affair. Christianity Today article
Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years in prison. Investigators estimated that he spent up to $5,000,000 on prostitutes.
Missoulian Article on the trial | Missoulian Article on his conviction
Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fundraiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges. WBAL Channel article
Peter Dibble, Republican legislator pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. News Channel 8 Article
Nicholas Elizondo, Director of the Young Republican Federation molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Halfway down this Bakersfield Californian article
July 13th, 2007 at 10:18 amNaw, I’m not even religious, let’s just get stoned and laugh at them.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — July 13, 2007 @ 10:13 am
A friend with weed, is a friend indeed!
July 13th, 2007 at 10:18 amI think Jake is right. Actually, the full text of Proverbs 16:18 is “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.”
I think that has numerous applications for the supposed leaders of our national government. In particular, it was pride that drove GDumbya into Iraq and we are all suffering from that destruction. His haughty spirit prevents him from admitting to mistakes. He will fall — as will so many from the haughty right wing. I just hope that they don’t take all of us down with them when it happens.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:20 amMaybe DeMint has a gut feeling.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:21 amIf anyone else thinks I am not posting enough on these threads, please let me know.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:22 am#1 BR
July 13th, 2007 at 10:22 amYou are mistaken in this case.
DeMint is indeed saying that any one of them could be next, because D.C. is a lonely place, and the clear implication is that colleagues take solace wherever they can.
I am assuming that he knows how widespread is the practice of using prostitutes.
All of this is bad enough, but when it is shown that the holier-than-thou crowd are hypocrites to the extreme in their condemnation of the behavior of others, it is important to inform the public of their masquerade.
Along the same lines as Mr. “If you did nothing wrong then what are you worried about” Bush and his stonewalling on any and all investigations.
If your hand was never in the cookie jar then you shouldn’t be too worried. DeMint looks like he is still licking his fingers and he knows of others that didn’t clean up the crumbs.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:23 amJust for the record, using prostitutes for sex should be legalized. This country is so hung up on who “gets it”. Why don’t we all just grow up?
July 13th, 2007 at 10:26 am#10 Jake: explain how “grace of God” comes into it when one is a Senator versus a regular citizen.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:27 am#19. Enforce the laws on the books. That’s what Republicans say.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:27 amI agree with with #1, the headline was misleading…just like the tabloids we stare at as we go through the check out aisle at the grocery store. Not TPs finest headline.
The rest of the story clarified…but #1 was talking about the headline, which misled us into thinking DeMint was saying mea culpa.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:28 amJust for the record, Republicans sure seem to like to have sex with prostitutes and frequently allow male prostitutes into the White House.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:29 amAnd who cares if DeMint used a prostitute anyway?
Oh wait, his entire party.
Nevermind. My bad.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:32 amthe issue isn’t that politicians have sex with prostitutes. the issue is the hypocrisy that these whoremongers employ when they try to suppress the rights of others by using the whole “family values” or “sanctity of marriage” crap…
July 13th, 2007 at 10:34 amTP,
This is a very dissapointing and sad article from you guys. I can only hope that you are basing this off more information than the flimsy article that you have linked to. Seriously, you can’t complain about people using inuendo and rumor to report and then do it yourselves. Yes, Demint may have said that, but please find evidence to bloster the claim before you post. Otherwise, you actions are really pathetic.
That said, I am sure there is plenty of other republican corruption to expose, so stick to the facts!
July 13th, 2007 at 10:36 amAnd that’s only to pander to the 26% stupid base. If dems are on the list atleast dems don’t go around saying they’re “holier than thou”.
Hipocracy is a pre-requisite for being a member of the GOP
July 13th, 2007 at 10:36 amYes, it’s true that republicans are hypocritical about sex. I should know as well as anyone.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:40 amDeMint is worried…!!
Another ‘family values’ seller worried about being exposed.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:41 am“If anyone else thinks I am not posting enough on these threads, please let me know.
Comment by Jake — July 13, 2007 @ 10:22 am”
LOL. Keep posting Jake. We need a good chuckle. You are trully the perfect clown.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:42 am“Just for the record, using prostitutes for sex should be legalized.”
I believe that Republicans would the first to disagree, but that is neither here nor there. Soliciting a prostitute is illegal.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:42 amSo far #17, #25 and #27 have called others hypocrites. Come on, relations between consenting adults and all. Look in the mirror much?
July 13th, 2007 at 10:43 amIs he making a confession?
July 13th, 2007 at 10:47 am“atleast dems don’t go around saying they’re “holier than thouâ€. ”
No, but they represent us and swear to uphold the Constitution. Breaking the law is still breaking the law, regardless whether you think the law is just or no.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:48 amCongressmen on all sides should be held to a higher standard, not just the Reps because they preach “family values.” You don’t hear Dems saying they don’t believe in family values. They just have a different definition.
For those who argue it’s no big deal, it shouldn’t be illegal anyway, you’re right, it shouldn’t be illegal. But it is, and any Congressmen knows that and knows it’s wrong.
All the republicans have to do is to go to the white house and say “Pardon me.” just like Scooter Libby.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:49 amC’mon, TP — there’s enough REAL corruption and wrongdoing out there to be outraged about. And you usually do a great job of bringing it to our attention.
But this? This is a headline deliberately sensationalized. You don’t need to stoop to this level. At least DeMint is honest enough to admit that human beings have failings (which is kind of refreshing, when you compare it to the usual “holier than thou” pontificating we get from politicians all too often). I didn’t interpret this as a personal admission of guilt on his part.
And just my two cents? I really don’t CARE about a politician’s sex life (I might care slightly if he lies about it, but not much) — unless it’s forced without consent or involves minors. I care far more about the war in Iraq, political pandering to large corporations and fatcat lobbyists, health care, trampling of the Constitution, tax cuts for the rich, unemployment, and the hijacking of the government.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:49 amLooks like some cons are pretending to be TP regulars (except that I’m a regular and I’ve never heard of them before) so that they can criticize.
Look, you don’t say ‘we’ unless it includes YOU, (you would have instead said ‘they’, and excluded yourself from implication), so the article is not misleading. If anything, I’m guessing it was a slip, and he didn’t realize he was ratting on himself…
July 13th, 2007 at 10:53 am“We” = U.S. Senators, in that context.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:54 amSo far #17, #25 and #27 have called others hypocrites. Come on, relations between consenting adults and all. Look in the mirror much?
Comment by Nothing matters
Consenting adults? Sex between ‘consenting adults’ isn’t ILLEGAL….until $$ changes hands…. what’s wrong, you don’t see a distinction?
July 13th, 2007 at 10:56 am#32 – you don’t seem to get it. i have no problem with “relations between consenting adults”. i have a problem w/ a politician trying to impeach a president for having no ‘moral values’ as he, himself, is schtupping a hooker or a politician trying to keep two same-sex people from getting married by saying we need to preserve the “sanctitiy of marriage” as he (or she) is ’stepping outside” their own marriage.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:01 am“We†= U.S. Senators, in that context.
Comment by Jake — July 13, 2007 @ 10:54 am
Please, you know better than anyone that the Senate is everyone for him or herself when it comes to anything that could impact electability. He implied association. You don’t do that when it could cost you votes.
Deal with it.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:02 amunbelievable.
I gots to agree with you here.
the ever popular “I’ve been reading TP alot, and normally agree, but…” poster, who has never posted before, until, of course, now.
Using “us” and “we” implies other(s) and yourself.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:02 amreally can’t get more clear.
The problem I have with prostitution is that if it’s so wrong and all that, why is it legal in some places but not in others? I think it should be legalized and regulated everywhere just as it is in NV, but that’s another story.
I could care less who’s getting screwed as long as it’s not the American people. And all these holier than thou hypocrites who run on the Family Values platform while soliciting prostitutes (YAWN), engage in homosexual situations while denouncing it (another YAWN, unless you show more hypocracy by being rabidly anti-gay while doing the bone dance), committing sexual attacks on children (mostly GOP thugs and there is NO justification for that).
When you put it all together, everything this administration does and everything the GOP lawmakers do – they’re not fit for running in place let alone running for office.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:03 amLet’s not be as hypocrtical as the so called conservatives.
What they really need to do is decriminalize all victim less crimes. It’s way past time the US stop imposing moral judgements or limits on our fellow citizens.
Even though it is great fun to watch the hypocrites twisting in the wind.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:04 amComment by pablo — July 13, 2007 @ 11:01 am
EXACTLY! Well said! It’s all about their hypocrisy. It has nothing to do with sex.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:04 am“I think all of us have to look at it and say, ‘We can be next. … This can be a very lonely and isolating place.’ I’m fairly surprised at how little it does happen.â€
I dunno, sounds like some kind of projection to me. Lonely and isolating sounds like a preemptive rationale for the behavior.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:05 amYou’re all just a bunch of hypocrites.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:05 amFor the record “This can be a very lonely and isolating place” refers to the U.S. Senate as well. You need to deal with it, TP is reaching for the gutter in claiming “After Vitter, DeMint worried he could ‘be next.’”.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:06 amI gots to agree with you here.
the ever popular “I’ve been reading TP alot, and normally agree, but…†poster, who has never posted before, until, of course, now.
It wouldn’t be so obvious if it weren’t so many of them who pull it, and that those of us who are regular know one another…
Using “us†and “we†implies other(s) and yourself. really can’t get more clear.
Comment by DRxJ — July 13, 2007 @ 11:02 am
Then “we” agree :D
They know they are just trying to rationalize it, as they rationalize everything that their side does that conflict with reality… which is essentially, everything :D
July 13th, 2007 at 11:08 amIt’s your religious neo-con friends that are keeping it illegal buddy.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:08 amthese slimeball hypocrit Rethuglican blowhards wasted millions and ranted and raved about Clinton’s sexual behavior, wailing and screaming about decency and honesty while all the time they are screwing prostitutes of both genders, engaging in illicit encounters with interns and lord knows what else. Who cares about their sex lives? Not I. What I DO care about is that these hypocrits hold any elected office. Three cheers for Larry Flynt, a TRUE Patriot, a TRUE American. He is exposing these liars for what they are, bible thumping hypocritical LIARS who use god and the church to hide their sickening duplicities. Every single Rethug should be voted OUT of office in 2008. NONE of them can tell the truth, NOT ONE of them has any decency or honesty. These neocon liars have destroyed the GOP. I hope they do NOT impeach, I hope they wait until they are out of office and THEN charge them all for their crimes against humanity. Then we need to weed out ALL the sicko neocons that have been placed in positions of importance by these partisan hacks. It is sickening how much damage these creeps have destroyed America with their sick pseudo Christian ideals. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, remove ALL fundamentalists from any office they now hold. Start with all of the people who have jobs in the Justice Dept. due to Monica Goodling and her cohorts, then go through every agency and remove them one by one and charge them with the CRIMES they have committed against the Hatch Act.
Not ONE of these criminals should be pardoned and the only way to see to it that they are not is to wait until this idiot of a President is out of office and no longer has the power to pardon all of his criminal associates. 2009, they ALL DO TIME.
the only one who gets off “scot free†is Scooter.
Comment by Justice — July 13, 2007 @ 11:01 am
Feel better?
July 13th, 2007 at 11:11 amHrr, unfortunately, I think you’d be hard pressed to find even the slimmest majority of americans who think prostitution should be legal.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:11 amMaybe DeMint has a gut feeling.
Comment by MsJoanne
Is “gut” the the new name for an erection?
July 13th, 2007 at 11:11 amThe rest of the story clarified…but #1 was talking about the headline, which misled us into thinking DeMint was saying mea culpa.
Comment by evergreen
This is a blog not a news site. Get a clue.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:13 amLet’s not be as hypocrtical as the so called conservatives.
“We” are not… “We” are just pointing out that people who impeached Clinton for a consensual and legal sex act with another adult because it was immoral, were doing WORSE at the same time. We don’t care that they were paying to have sex, we care that they are hypocrites – which is really unethical.
What they really need to do is decriminalize all victim less crimes. It’s way past time the US stop imposing moral judgements or limits on our fellow citizens.
In general, I agree with you – but there are probably one or two caveats to that generalization. As far as prostitution – it would need to be regulated so that it doesn’t lead to the spread of diseases, or exploitation of women – especially young women, because then it would create victims… But Nevada and Amsterdam seem to be examples of legalized and regulated prostitution that works.
Even though it is great fun to watch the hypocrites twisting in the wind.
Comment by M3vega — July 13, 2007 @ 11:04 am
And lying to try to cover it up. Well it’s different, because… because, well, because we SAID so! LOL
July 13th, 2007 at 11:15 amThat said, I am sure there is plenty of other republican corruption to expose, so stick to the facts!
Comment by slimpickins
Hey slim, we learned from KKKarl Rove’s success, we might as well stick to the “facts” people will pay attention to.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:15 amThe rest of the story clarified…but #1 was talking about the headline, which misled us into thinking DeMint was saying mea culpa.
Comment by evergreen
This is a blog not a news site. Get a clue.
Comment by shane — July 13, 2007 @ 11:13 am
Right! Nothing has to be true or accurate. It’s just a stupid blog site.
Get a clue!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:16 amYes, it’s true that republicans are hypocritical about sex. I should know as well as anyone.
Comment by Jake
I don’t care if this is a namejacking, it’s the brightest thing Jake has ever posted.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:16 amOh my – more from the left-wing thought police. Interesting that Flynt and liberals have resorted to Orwellian tactics to “out” Republicans as sinners. I guess we all watch our share of gay porn.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:17 amFor the record “This can be a very lonely and isolating place†refers to the U.S. Senate as well.
Only if you take it out of context and twist it as you’re doing. LOL Otherwise, it actually sounds, in context, like he’s scared HE will be next….
You need to deal with it, TP is reaching for the gutter in claiming “After Vitter, DeMint worried he could ‘be next.’â€.
Comment by Jake — July 13, 2007 @ 11:06 am
I am dealing with it by debunking your lies.
Oh, I get it – you are the fake criticizers… Makes sense as much as you change names and lie. LOL.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:18 amComment by pablo — July 13, 2007 @ 11:01 am
EXACTLY! Well said! It’s all about their hypocrisy. It has nothing to do with sex.
Comment by unbelievable
Agreed! It is all about hypocrisy. Oh yeah, and committing a crime that could expose an elected official to bribery, coercion, and extortion.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:19 amFor those who argue it’s no big deal, it shouldn’t be illegal anyway, you’re right, it shouldn’t be illegal. But it is, and any Congressmen knows that and knows it’s wrong.
Comment by Wilco
You’re right. They filed charges against the madame, they should file charges against everybody on the list. And they should check the expense accounts of said congress members and others against the phone records. Then they should turn it all over to the IRS and let them file charges, easier to convict on IRS violations. Of course if congressman used tax dollars for the services the DOJ would have to investigate. I’m sure Gonzo is already on it.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:21 amToo funny shane :D
July 13th, 2007 at 11:22 amOrwellian tactics?
July 13th, 2007 at 11:23 amThe DC Madam freely provided the phone numbers.
The DC Madam freely provided the phone numbers.
Comment by Wilco — July 13, 2007 @ 11:23 am
When what’s the hold up in releasing them, to the public, all at one time?
These are OUR employees. We have a right, according to them, to read their emails, monitor their phone calls while they are on the clock, and know how they are spending their time that we pay for…
July 13th, 2007 at 11:25 amTP is reaching for the gutter in claiming “After Vitter, DeMint worried he could ‘be next.’â€.
Comment by Jake
Reaching for the gutter and caught Jake. Poetic justice.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:25 amSo far it appears that it is just more GOP, GOP, GOP.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:27 amOrwellian tactics?
The DC Madam freely provided the phone numbers.
Comment by Wilco — July 13, 2007 @ 11:23 am
but, it sounds so smart, so knowledgabe… l o l …
Agreed! It is all about hypocrisy. Oh yeah, and committing a crime that could expose an elected official to bribery, coercion, and extortion.
Comment by GooseEgg — July 13, 2007 @ 11:19 am
ding ding ding!!! …
July 13th, 2007 at 11:28 amWhat’s all this illegal sex you speak of?
I thought it was just a phone number from an escort/massage service.
Slow down until we find a stain on a blue dress.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:28 amUn, according to her attorney, the list of phone numbers is available online
July 13th, 2007 at 11:28 amRight! Nothing has to be true or accurate. It’s just a stupid blog site.
Get a clue!
Comment by Nothing matters
It means people should read the text and links not just the headlines. And if they are unable to do that, Nothing matters, maybe they should go back to Fox News and Limbaugh where the news is predigested for them. No run along.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:30 amI say Orwellian because there is a concerted campaign to catch the Rethugs in the act.
I did notice Chris Dodd didn’t knock Vitter on Hardball the other day. I am sure he’s on the list too. That, coupled with his waitress sandwich with Teddy Kennedy back in the 80’s should make for fun fodder.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:32 amDo you idiots ever use your brain before posting ?
Results 1 – 10 of about 53 from thinkprogress.org for “Bertrand Russell”
What were you working off for the number of times a particular person has posted here ? What have you got a divining rod there chump ?
July 13th, 2007 at 11:32 amConcerted effort to catch republicans? How come ABC had these records for months and couldn’t find ANYONE, yet when Hustler gets them the $hit hits the fan?
Do you honestly think that if ABC found a single democrat on that list we wouldn’t have had 100 stories about it by now?
Get a clue!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:35 amFor the record, paying for sex with a prostitute is ILLEGAL. If we find out DeMint was calling this brothel for reasons other than arranging ILLEGAL sex, then that’s fine. I can’t imagine what other reason he’d have, but we shall see.
Having consensual sex with another adult (which may result in a stain on a blue dress) is LEGAL.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:35 am#79 I agree, nothing illegal yet.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:39 amI can’t imagine what other reason he’d have, but we shall see.
She “claims” she ran a perfectly legal fantasy escort service. Which means you would pay to have some woman “escort” you to dinner a movie and the company party. IF you two had consensual sex afterwards then well, you are just a couple adults who decided you really dug each other and wanted to do that.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:39 amUn, according to her attorney, the list of phone numbers is available online
Comment by Wilco — July 13, 2007 @ 11:28 am
I’ll have to go check that out…
July 13th, 2007 at 11:40 amEr… yeah… that’s why he’s NOT mistaken.
Did you actually see what the original headline for this was ? Think they changed it for a different reason ?
I find it hard to believe that in 8 years President Clinton not once acknowledged that depression can effect anyone and that suicide can happen in any family.
You know how accurate and responsible it would have been to describe this as Clinton threatening to kill himself.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:42 amYou can get to the phone records in many places, but here’s one: http://www.legitgov.org/
July 13th, 2007 at 11:42 amDo you idiots ever use your brain before posting ? Results 1 – 10 of about 53 from thinkprogress.org for “Bertrand Russellâ€
Clearly more than you. We know that Bertrand Russell was a well-known real person (western philosophy) who died about 40 years ago…
TP also does NOT have site registration, so more thanone person could use the name of a famous philosopher like Russell, more than once.
What were you working off for the number of times a particular person has posted here ? What have you got a divining rod there chump ?
Comment by Kilo — July 13, 2007 @ 11:32 am
No, an education and a library card. Try it.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:44 amA heard a rumor Dirty Dick was on the list, but I don’t believe it…
Beastiality wasn’t listed.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:44 amhttp://www.legitgov.org/
Comment by MsJoanne — July 13, 2007 @ 11:42 am
Thanks!
Republican political operative/pundit, John (Jack) M. Burkman Jr. Principal J.M. Burkman & Associates, Arlington, VA phone number appears in the database of phone records of the ‘DC Madam.’
From the phone logs: 2006-01-15 18:44 1.00
Busted!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:49 amPride goes before the fall.
Comment by Jake
Better tell Bush to llok out for that next step then. It’s a bit of a drop.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:59 amI’m sure Gonzo is already on it.
Comment by shane
On the job or on the list?
July 13th, 2007 at 12:02 pmI guess we all watch our share of gay porn.
Comment by God Help Us
“We”??? You can only speak honestly for “yourself”, GHU. Feeling a need to tell everyone something?
July 13th, 2007 at 12:04 pmThe developments of the last few days have not been kind to the so-called “values voters” of the Republican Party. One after another, paragons of conservative virtue have been going down (so to speak). And making matters worse, they are taking down the top GOP presidential campaigns with them.
For the details, see:
July 13th, 2007 at 12:05 pm“Sex and Drugs Rock Republicans.”
IF you two had consensual sex afterwards then well, you are just a couple adults who decided you really dug each other and wanted to do that.
Yeah, and the guy consensually hands over $1,000 for the dinner companionship.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:20 pmFor the record, I am a regular. Just because you don’t recognize the name doesn’t mean I’m not. I usually don’t need to repeat what 100 people have already said, so there’s no need to post. Two threads in which I’ve recently posted in are the Signing Statement (Specter being a wank), and the Filibuster on the Webb amendment (and how the media says “failed to pass”, or “the cloture vote failed” instead of calling it a filibuster when the R’s do it).
Seriously, whenever I post a dissenting point of view on a liberal blog, or criticize something they do, I get called a troll. When we start attacking people who disagree on minor issues, we become republicans.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:31 pmBy the way, I always use the email address tips@foxnews.com in the hopes that they get spammed. In one of my first posts, someone took this to mean I must be a conservative…anyway, think what you want. Bertrand Russel is my favorite philosopher. He the antithesis of conservative, and I doubt any of them have ever heard of him.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:33 pmHere are all my posts:
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=site:.thinkprogress.org+%22Comment+by+Bertrand+Russell%22&spell=1
Here is the Spector post:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/03/specter-introduces-bill-to-ban-signing-statements/
Heres the Webb post:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/11/breaking-webb-amendment-protecting-us-troops-fails
And here is me criticizing TP for a valid reason:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/30/theyre-siamese-twins-joined-at-the-frontal-lobe/
July 13th, 2007 at 12:39 pmI have to agree with Bert that the story didn’t really deliver what the headline seemed to imply in this case. I don’t really think DeMint should be hung out to dry for this comment alone. We can find better reaons to pillory him, I’m sure.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:49 pmJake kinda sounds like Moderate Marie from Maine, doesn’t he?
July 13th, 2007 at 12:51 pmModerate Marie from Maine:
“Why are you so obsessed with impeachment? We must end ths war! Don’t you understand we can only do one thing at a time?”
July 13th, 2007 at 12:57 pmI say Orwellian because there is a concerted campaign to catch the Rethugs in the act.
I did notice Chris Dodd didn’t knock Vitter on Hardball the other day. I am sure he’s on the list too. That, coupled with his waitress sandwich with Teddy Kennedy back in the 80’s should make for fun fodder.
Comment by God Help Us — July 13, 2007 @ 11:32 am
You obviously didn’t read much Orwell, or else you didn’t digest much of it.
And a Demcoratic Senator shows some class by not knocking an embattled colleague on a chat show, and this is your basis for accusing him of hiring prostitutes?
Wishful thinking much?
July 13th, 2007 at 1:00 pmShe “claims†she ran a perfectly legal fantasy escort service. Which means you would pay to have some woman “escort†you to dinner a movie and the company party. IF you two had consensual sex afterwards then well, you are just a couple adults who decided you really dug each other and wanted to do that.
Comment by Tundra — July 13, 2007 @ 11:39 am
What I find fascinating is how the analysis shifts depending on the letter next to the perp’s name.
I’m pretty confident that if the first name revealed had been a (D), Tundra wouldn’t be quite so understanding.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:03 pmAnyone who has not “knocked” Vitter is on the phone list, I just know it!
July 13th, 2007 at 1:03 pm#96 – Dodd has a history. That all I am saying. I can’t imagine that a few Democrats won’t pop up on this list. I am sure the left will then say – who cares like they did when Clinton was President. The truth is you do care or we wouldn’t be talking about it.`
July 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pmAll I care about is revealing these “sanctity of marriage” freaks to be the frauds they are.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:17 pm#99 – thanks for admitting you are a fascist.
I am against gay marriage and it has nothing to do with what I do in my bedroom. Some things are just not right. PERIOD. Just because I am a sinner doesn’t mean we should have gay marriage.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:27 pmThen what’s next – polygamy? Legalized incest?
#99 – so what your saying is Vitter doesn’t have civil rights because he’s opposed to gay marriage. You are an awful, hateful person.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:28 pmConsenting adults? Sex between ‘consenting adults’ isn’t ILLEGAL….until $$ changes hands…. what’s wrong, you don’t see a distinction?
Comment by SGT Higgins — July 13, 2007 @ 10:56 am
It’s just negotiable affection, that’s all… Sheesh!
July 13th, 2007 at 1:29 pmBertrand Russell – love your moniker and am sorry that you were mis-perceived. As you may have noticed the troll situation lately has gone past the infestation stage to a point where Zooey (of all people) had to take a break from the site!
I heard Karen Hughes on NPR last night talking about some of her people patrolling Arab blogs “correcting” mis-characterizations of U.S. actions. I wonder if any of Karen’s people come here to disrupt threads.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:30 pmThen what’s next – polygamy? Legalized incest?
Comment by God Help Us — July 13, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
No. A honeymoon usualy follows a marriage.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:34 pmWe don’t care unless the person is being holier than thou and telling people how to act, then is acting the exact opposite.
It is really that simple. Nothing more, nothing less.
If republicans would just stop pretending to be better than everybody else, then these kinds of issues and stories would go away.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:24 pmPretty slimey for the party that tried to politically castrate Bill Clinton to whine for sympathy by moaning about how lonely it is in big bad Washington, and how surprising it is that not more Congress Critters pay for sex. I can see how some of them might have to, and I’m not speaking about Sen. Graham or former Speaker Hastert. But how exactly is Washington different from Main Street America in that regard?
De Mint’s whine about it being because of loneliness is hopelessly misleading. It’s about power, ambition and money – the most powerful sex attractants known to humankind – which exude from the street cracks and storm drains in this town, a town, after all, defined by Washington’s monument dominating the Reflecting Pool.
Those in power always think they’re different and that the rules don’t apply to them, as IF none of them had ever read Kipling’s poem and felt it ought to apply to them. Cheney and Bush are just extreme examples. The bigger problem is not sex in or out of wedlock, whether paid for in cash or by credit card, or by way of access to inherited wealth or to Ivy League or Junior League or family connections. It’s predation and hypocrisy. It’s the party of “family values” whose only real value is wanting the power to impose its will and hypocrisy on others.
Average Americans understand temptation, punishment and forgiveness, and the connections that help them maintain communities and more often than not walk a straight line. The connections that help them back onto the path when the stray. It’s just that Washington can’t stop trying to manipulate them for partisan gain. And no one has been more partisan in the last century than George Walker Bush.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:45 pmI heard Karen Hughes on NPR last night talking about some of her people patrolling Arab blogs “correcting†mis-characterizations of U.S. actions. I wonder if any of Karen’s people come here to disrupt threads.
Comment by margaret — July 13, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
That’s interesting. Many of us have thought KKK Rove was paying some of the trolls. Now we learn that Karen Huge (mistake deliberate) may be behind it, too, or solitarily.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:22 pmLora:
Anyone who thinks purely Democrat or purely Republican is an unthinking moron. The power of politics is so sleazy that both sides will do anything within their power to control this country. It’s no surprise that there are paid hacks disrupting the flow of discourse on conservative and liberal blogs alike. These zealots will do whatever they’re handlers ask of them, just for the chance to lick the backs of their masters’ hands.
Meanwhile, you and I and the rest of America wish we actually had a represetative government instead of a bunch of powermongers paid by Exxon to wrest the control of government from the people.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:43 pmInteresting that the story about DeMint being the sole Senator holding up the ethics bill for Congress was reiterated just before DeMint expressed his concern that other lonely Senators might be on the madam’s list. Hmm, maybe that’s why he doesn’t want tougher ethics reform in Congress — is he concerned it will snare him??
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Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is standing idle while Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) keeps an unanimously approved ethics bill in limbo. “Mitch McConnell is making a big mistake sitting on his hands,†said Craig Holman, legislative representative for Public Citizen. “Now he’s letting his own rank-and-file undermine his image of authority.â€
July 13th, 2007 at 6:43 pm“I think all of us have to look at it and say, ‘We can be next.’ … “
“We”?
Speak for yourself Mr. DeMint, speak for yourself…
July 13th, 2007 at 11:23 pmDeMint is from SC. Their state is trash. Their leaders are beyond trash. Sherman should have leveled everything in that state.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:14 pm