GOP senators want new war authorization.
By on Jul 13th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
GOP senators want new war authorization.
Sens. Richard Lugar (R-IN) and John Warner (R-VA) “said today that President Bush should seek a new war authorization and present a plan to Congress by Oct. 16 outlining contingency plans in Iraq. Those plans, which would include reducing American forces, should begin by the end of the year.” Their measure will be “considered next week when the Iraq war debate resumes.”
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This is going to get interesting. September will be a fun month to watch. Then, sometime early next year, the next false flag incident will cause the complete takeover by the neo-cons. Trouble is brewing ahead.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:02 pmI don’t need no stinkin authorization to do what I want! I am the decider! Hear that? I AM THE DECIDER!!
July 13th, 2007 at 6:03 pmThere should be a term for these Senators who are flipping their support of the President’s flopping war stategery. But what would we call this term? Hmm. . . .
As for the next false flag incident, Chertoff’s “gut reaction” is a pretty good indicator how close it is.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:07 pmMeant “strategery.” Does it matter if you misspell a nonexistent word?
July 13th, 2007 at 6:08 pmComment by paland — July 13, 2007 @ 6:02 pm
We don’t need a false flag.
We have bin Laden.
Sorry Lefties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 13th, 2007 at 6:09 pmthat idea would have been great oh… 3 years ago!!
yeah keep patting your self on the back you useless hacks!
July 13th, 2007 at 6:10 pmHow bout by July 16th?
July 13th, 2007 at 6:13 pm,strong>Sen Warner (aka Mr. Elizabeth Taylor No. 7)
Ain’t he the guy who made sure a new law passed that give Shrub the authority to put troops on Main Street USA in case of public insurgency by US citizens?
July 13th, 2007 at 6:13 pmWe don’t need a false comma.
We have illiteracy.
Sorry, Mr. President or maybe it is “Sorry Mr. President.”
Eats, Shoots and Leaves
July 13th, 2007 at 6:13 pmBush will do whatever he wants even if his polling goes into single digits. There aren’t enough Republicans with big enough balls to take Bush to the mat on Iraq.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:14 pmAin’t he the guy who made sure a new law passed that give Shrub the authority to put troops on Main Street USA in case of public insurgency by US citizens?
Comment by Rebel in CA
Its easy Reb – they are drinking less kool-aid, so their clarity is much clearer. Just because a repub made lousy decisions for all this time, doesn’t mean he/she cannot be lead to the pool of wisdom. Makes sense, no?
July 13th, 2007 at 6:15 pmMr. President: one of our interns noted an error in your transcription of the following talking point:
We don’t need a false flag.
We have bin Laden.
Sorry Lefties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
RNC guidelines say that should be “We don’t need ANOTHER false flag. We have bin Laden.”
Please note the change for future postings.
Thank you.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:16 pmBush will do whatever he wants even if his polling goes into single digits.
On a more optimistic note, remember, it wasn’t the Dems who evicted Nixon from the White House; it was GOP Senators, desperate to save their own lame asses.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:17 pmEats, Shoots and Leaves
Comment by helenahandbasket — July 13, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
LOL!
July 13th, 2007 at 6:19 pmI would support Sens. Lugar and Warner in their legislation, if that same legislation ENDED the invasion legislation (H. J. Res. 114) and was VERY SPECIFIC that the their legislation specifically BARS the invasion of Iran (or ANY OTHER COUNTRY!) without NEW legislation!
In my opinion, this is just another attempt by Lugar and Warner to protect their rear ends from their constituents who are UNIVERSALLY opposed to giving the current corrupt, crooked president a blank check to persue his debacle in Iraq!
July 13th, 2007 at 6:20 pmOnce again, if the chymp vetoes, they must impeach.
If the veto bird takes a shit, they must impeach and don’t acquit!
July 13th, 2007 at 6:26 pmClinton Denied Executive Privilege
Uh oh. Watch out!
July 13th, 2007 at 6:27 pmI AM DE CIDER!!
Comment by GWB
DE CIDER??? WTF??? What does apple juice have to do w/ this mess?
Ohhhh… you meant DECIDERER… The Deciderer…
July 13th, 2007 at 6:28 pmWuddint it the deciderator?
July 13th, 2007 at 6:30 pmI wouldn’t be surprised if we had another “attack” on US soil before Shrub is supposed to leave. Chertoff is even priming the pump.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:34 pmPersonally, I never understood how Bush got away with the invasion in the first place. He needed a second UN Security Council resolution; the UN weapons inspectors were on the ground and searching unimpeded; and Saddam was complying even to the extent of allowing the UN inspectors to destroy dozens of his missiles.
The impression I had was that it didn’t matter what the US said; America will always use force first. Why? Because, I suspect, the reasons stated by America as its objective in threatening force are always lies. This is why Bush has triggered a new arms race. Everyone knows that Americans only understand brute force and so everyone must have WMD or America will bully them.
Congress does have the power to declare War. And since this war is technically over and is now an occupation, I think Congress has a right to demand new authorization for the use of force and to offer Congress a plan for that use. I’d also point out that the UN, after delcaring the invasion illegal, had to resign itself to reality –something Americans seem unable to do– and gave America a mandate to secure Iraq. That mandate runs out 31 December 2007.
If Bush won’t seek another authorization, I think Pelosi should plead with Iraq and the UN Security Council NOT to renew the mandate.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:35 pmThe MSM is priming the pump too, with none other than FOX news leading the way, pushing a story for days now about Al Quiada coming to the US. Get ready folks.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:36 pmBin Laden hasn’t had a tape on way too long. Time for a fresh one. If he’s not dead. LOL
July 13th, 2007 at 6:38 pmI recall seeing an corny old Eisenhower Era newsreel about what it would be like if Communism came to smalltown USA. It was hilariously funny with the most outrageous stereotypes and improbable plotting.
That’s why I see here with these stories of alQaeda coming to America. Image a dozen Arabs in long robes striding through the mall. Osama’s burka clad chick clinging to his arm. A terrorist sporting the latest dynamite vest. Another terrorist knocking on doorsteps asking householders if they’d heard the good message about Allah.
Yes, indeed, highly probable. NOT. Remember, folks. These are the Republicans who didn’t want curbs placed on money-laundering; they didn’t want shipping containers entering US ports to be sealed because WalMart objected; they didn’t want to take over airport security even though most private security didn’t meet federal standards. These guys are two-faced liars. Either they know alQaeda is no longer a domestic threat or they’re praying for a second attack. They sure as hell aren’t trying to stop one.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:46 pmabout time those guys realized that the republican leadership has no plan.
maybe next they’ll move to drive down that splurge and spend whopper deficit from all bush’s big gov’t programs.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:46 pmThis is a joke, a ruse, this is just so it looks like some “responsible” Repuppetcan’s were the ones who got the POTUS to reduce the level of troops. There are “troops” who were supposed to be home in JULY 07 but were extended so they will be coming back in Sep-Oct anyway. will that be seen as a reduction NO because the units that they replaced (MY unit) will be replacing them after OUR units were deactivated in one place and then reflagged as another unit and made to look like WE are a new unit therefore= NEW TROOPS.
So WE”RE being recycled and it looks to those who dont know that the POTUS is listening but he is just rotating us from one place to another. Thats how it is without all of the rhetoric, BS, and Bush/GOP-speak.
And where are all the “General’s on the ground” (in my best Bush voice), They’re all somewhere on their knees praying to a life-size George Bush cutout, and the ones who do speak out (the 5-10 who have a pair) are no longer “Generals on the ground” or anywhere else for that matter .
So this is again just political cover so some Repuppetcans come Nov 08 can say they “broke” with the POTUS, if they really cared about “the troops” this would have been done in 05,06.
What the hell did we give the Dems the House and Senate for if all they do is live in fear of LIEberman, MAD-Man MCcain, AIPAC, and a bunch of the most ignorant, incompetent, dishonest public officials and media personalities ever to roam the earth.
This country is falling apart
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
July 16th would have been his 30th birthday, we miss and love you brother
Or as the POTUS, his enablers, apologists, and just followers call him
comma #1462
July 13th, 2007 at 6:47 pmThe NeoCons are ramping up for another attack on US soil. First you have the report that al Qaeda is getting stronger, which is then followed by a story about al Qaeda cells in the US.
Next is some type of explosion.
Then, “See we told you al Qaeda was going to bomb here.”
The next step will be marshal law.
Then a war with Iran.
Then a war with Pakistan, which will set off a nuclear war and the NeoCons will finally get what they want. To see a nuclear weapon kill millions of Muslims, good or bad, at once.
Crap, the trolls are going to start masturbating to my post.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:47 pmNo, they have to open a website with a picture of a big screaming eagle and a crucifix in order to jack-off these days.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:49 pmrepublicans don’t jack-off… that’s not morally acceptable. they just hire male hookers, when the congressional pages aren’t available.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:51 pmWell, I think Tired of Fighting’s post bears repeating. And I don’t think anything I can say will add to this thread after that.
Tired of Fighting said
July 13th, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Comment by Tired Of Fighting — July 13, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
You made me cry.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:52 pmComment by Tired Of Fighting
If only 1 in 300 Americans back here had the courage that you guys do over there, we could end this shame in a day. Bring our soldiers home.
I am embarassed of this administration and the congress that enables it. But more than anything, I am embarassed we here at home haven’t forced an end to this thing.
We need to get mad, not for the inevitable supression of the citizens here, but rather, for those who have been sent into harms way for questionable reasons and kept there with out-right lies.
It is truely a sobering moment when these blogs are starkly reminded that we are talking about men and women and not principles or ideals. I thank you for posting here. It is important that we hear from you, and we take action.
My sympathies go out to you and the family of SGT Stephen R. Sherman. You should know that not all of us here back home see him or any other lose in this conflict as a comma.
I wish the same could be said of the POTUS.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:01 pmWuddint it the deciderator?
Comment by RUCerious
El Decideristo Grande??
July 13th, 2007 at 7:04 pmThe Warner – Lugar plan sounds like “Withdrawal Lite.” Why give Bush a re-authorization for his failed War? Gimme a break.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:05 pmwillyloman,
The biggest problem we have and the republicans take advantage of is that only 1/3 of the country gives a fu*k one way or the other. When aske din a poll how people feel about the war, they think it is wrong, but they aren’t going to do anything about it, beyond answering a question and maybe signing a petition.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:08 pmMy sympathies go out to you and the family of SGT Stephen R. Sherman. You should know that not all of us here back home see him or any other lose in this conflict as a comma.
I wish the same could be said of the POTUS.
Comment by willyloman — July 13, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Thank You
July 13th, 2007 at 7:09 pmwell, they never declared war in the first place – as mandated by Article I, Section 8 – so the war was completely unconstitutional right from the get go.
Some good reading on this:
July 13th, 2007 at 7:10 pm“Understanding War Powers: Declare vs. Wage”
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/05/21/understanding-war-powers-declare-vs-wage/
Comment by Tired Of Fighting
no. Thank You, Soldier.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:12 pmYou guys have probably hit the nail on the head with this bunch of criminals, they are up to something and it stinks to high heaven. Just has all the signs of them planing another attack to scare the general population into submission and to distract from the fact that congress is getting closer and closer to exposing them for the criminals that they are.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:14 pmWhen GWB gets cornered he will do something about it…he cares nothing for americans, betcha a million will die from some nuke that Bush makes sure some nut job gets his hands on.
I already got my survival kit ready when I heard about that “Gut Feeling”. It looked like a setup to me.
Are Senators Lugar and Warner opposing the occupation of Iraq, or are they just trying to salvage the wreckage that is the Reptilescum party and the Bush regime from complete devastation and marginalize the Democratic opposition. This bill is nothing but double-speak and rhetoric with no teeth that will enable Bush to call for further escalation as a “new strategy.” The more Republicans change, the more they remain the same.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:21 pmtalk about yer “soft bigotry of low expectations”
Bush: America’s first remedial president
July 13th, 2007 at 7:21 pmIn Washington yesterday, George W. Bush encountered what might be deemed the “reverse Chicken Little moment” of his presidency. That is, Americans have simply stopped believing his perpetual claims of sunny skies to come in Iraq.
As the President delivered the interim progress report on his Iraq surge, he was greeted with dropped jaws and incredulous stares across the political spectrum. It wasn’t just anti-war stalwart Jack Murtha calling Bush “delusional.” On Friday, Bill O’Reilly told his former Fox News colleague Tony Snow “you can’t win” in Iraq. And long-time GOP speechwriter and conservative cheerleader Peggy Noonan labeled Bush’s performance “weird” and “strange.”
It’s not just that 71% of Americans believe U.S. troops should be largely withdrawn by next April or that 79% believe that Bush’s surge has made the situation in Iraq no better or worse. As Noonan reports, even a faithful Republican in Georgia reported “I don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth.” With the apparent exception of Bush’s own academic experience, a score of 8 out of 18 benchmarks is usually considered a failing grade. It’s no wonder GOP Senators John Warner (R-VA) and Richard Lugar (R-IN) are just the latest to defy President Bush with their proposed Iraq war reauthorization legislation.
For more, see:
July 13th, 2007 at 7:27 pm“‘We’re Making Progress’ – Bush’s History of Iraq.”
# 39
Comment by Snowball — July 13, 2007
Exactly
Nothing about opposition to EVERYTHING that has gone wrong, just some old men trying to do right in their minds before they expire. Well my Soldiers never got a chance to make peace with themselves, they died because Men and Women who have NO personal stake in this war made decisions out of fear and ignorance, and all they did was stand by their man oyt of party loyalty instead of country loyalty.
Senator’s Warner and Lugar IT’S TOO LATE!!!
It’s too late to act as though you care, to act as if all along you knew this was a disaster because if you knew all along and did nothing then you are negligent.
It’s too late to stand up to the POTUS and the POTS (President of The Senate: Dick Cheney ?) after years of covering up for him and his defeciencies.
It’s too late to play elder statesmen when you know that you fall down on your knees like little boys before Rove, Bush, and Cheney.
It’s too late after all the lies you have told on Faux, Fixed, Fake, Fox News, BSNBC about the conduct, planning, execution of this war by the administration.
And it’s too late for the over 3650 dead, 27,000 injured Soldiers, Marines, Airman. and Sailors.
It’s too late.
We’re tired of our so-called leaders not standing up for what is right until what is wrong is all thats left.
It’s too late.
This country is falling apart
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
July 16th would have been his 30th birthday, we miss and love you brother
Or as the POTUS, his enablers, apologists, and just followers call him
comma #1462
July 13th, 2007 at 7:39 pmI don’t believe Warner and I don’t believe Lugar. These guys are like Spector and the other Repugs — they talk tough, but they won’t join the Democrats, they now want to wait until October, giving Bush even another 100 days to fiddle around.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:40 pmIn January, Bush himself said, give me six months — most of us didn’t believe him, but he was given six months anyway.
Now he says, no, the six months didn’t start until July 1; the 6 months is starting now. These Repugs now want to add even more time to that — these are just tactical moves giving Bush all the time he needs to dump the entire mess on the Democrat who succeeds him.
Tired Of Fighting,
You’re fate!
You’re noy in Iraq you liar!
How are you posting?
You’re an internet geek!
Comment by Papa Smurf — July 13, 2007
Whoever or whatever you are, I have been to Iraq three times and will be deploying back for my fourth tour in October. I will not stoop to your level nor will I play your game, life to me is real and the onlly people who I need to take care of is my Family and my Soldiers, so you continue to do what you do and I will continue to serve my country even though you chose to try and ridicule me.
I’ll put my over 20 years in service up to yours anyday, but today I want to remember my Soldier, my Friend. Even a troll has to have some sense you think?
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
July 16th would have been his 30th birthday, we miss and love you brother
Or as the POTUS, his enablers, apologists, and just followers call him
comma #1462
July 13th, 2007 at 7:45 pmDon’t mind Papa Smurf, his moma only lets his out of the basement once a week for some exercise. He goes a little crazy down there.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:46 pmWhy would they want this?
Are they merely trying to cover their asses for the next election, being able to say it was the consensus of the Congress that the occupation of Iraq was a legitimate “war” up until 2007?
Or are they trying to get the Dem’s in Congress to claim ownership for the entire bush middle east fiasco?
It’s all a bunch of bull.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:52 pmSorry, I meant to say # 50 “can” go f*ck himself”.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:56 pmhttp://www.militarycity.com/valor/637338.html
July 13th, 2007 at 7:57 pm# 56: Your dead, therefore you aren’t the moniker you use.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:58 pmAll Lugar and Warner are doing is to try to give Bush cover so that he can run out the clock. The Democrats need to keep the pressure on right now. They need to send Webb’s bill back to the committees, telling the public that it is too important to allow the Republics to filibuster, and make the Republics filibuster it again, and again and again and again until the public finally gets the message. Or at least the 26%ers get the message, the rest of us got the message a while ago.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:00 pmThis website is full of traitors a true Patriot wouldn’t post here or the name of a dead friend!
Comment by Real Iraqi Vet — July 13, 2007
And a real Iraqi Veteran or any Veteran would know that those of us who have lost a friend or loved one would NEVER let a day go by without showing some rememberance. So don’t try to lure me into your BS with this on-line tennis, the fact that now you and your ilk are now using my Soldiers name as a joke is the upmost disrespect, but I am a believer in karma and yours and the rest who choose to be ignorant is coming.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
July 16th would have been his 30th birthday, we miss and love you brother
Or as the POTUS, his enablers, apologists, and just followers call him
comma #1462
July 13th, 2007 at 8:01 pm# 59 is a troll – wingnuts love to spread sh*t. His syntax sucks, too.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:02 pmTired of Fighting – a true American hero. Keep on posting, brother.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:04 pmgerald gibson junior – a troll is a troll is a troll.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:05 pmGawd, I’m so tired of seeing the trolls take over every thread on this site. PLEASE don’t talk to them. PLEASE ignore them. They kill every thread the touch. Let the trolls talk to each other and we can talk to each other and everyone will be better off.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:07 pmComment by Tired Of Fighting
Apologies for the poor quality of our trolls and their childish behavior. The posts are obviously the work of a couple of the stupidest, who call themselves names like The Joker, or Mr President. I’ve contacted admins about this particular instance, but in the meantime, please ignore the little snots.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:07 pmBin Laden hasn’t had a tape on way too long. Time for a fresh one.
… i… i… i agree… sorry… !!!DON’T HURT ME!!!… help!
h… hello, I am WHIMPY harry reid… I might as well be in a coma…
It’s been so long since I have heard from MY MASTER OSAMA…
… oh, how I miss him so… ahh…. huh?… oh…
I SURRENDERED to terrorists as soon as I could, all because of that mean old President Bush! … i… well, i just… he… well, I just think Mr. Bush is a Loser…
Oh no?!? Mr. Bush, I’m so sorry! Don’t hurt me! PLEASE!!! oh no!!
HELP!!! OSAMA!!! HELP!!! al QAEDA!!! HELP ME!!! Please!!!
Defeatistly yours,
WHIMPY Harry “I might as well be in a coma” Reid
July 13th, 2007 at 8:09 pm(AKA #1 SurrenderMONKEY)
Comment by SGT Stephen R. Sherman
Namejacking a dead soldier is about the lowest, most vile thing you can do, troll. We know who you really are and I’m going to take whatever effort is needed to remove you from the site permanently, even if it takes awhile.
You’re a coward and a punk, troll.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:10 pmthe fact that now you and your ilk are now using my Soldiers name as a joke is the upmost disrespect, but I am a believer in karma and yours and the rest who choose to be ignorant is coming.
Tired of Fighting
I have sent copies of the posts where they have disrespected the memory of your fallen friend to the administrator as well as the creator of ThinkProgress.
They will not look kindly upon the distasteful actions displayed by these “people”. Hopefully their time spreading hate and fear in this forum will be over very soon.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:11 pmI disagree with those who think this is just more of the same. This is big. Very, very big. This is the end of Bush and the Neocons running the war. The Republicans just took the keys to the car away from Bush.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:13 pmTired Of Fighting ,
You are a lying internet nerd! Why are you posting my name!
Respect my death, I died as a warrior not a coward like you pretending to be a soldier!
Comment by SGT Stephen R. Sherman — July 13, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
Now THIS deserves your head getting bashed in pal.
I hope, no, I pray, that a bus load of liberals find you, and bash your head in with ball bats until you stop moving.
That is my prayer, you goddamned peice of filth.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:17 pmTo use the name of a fallen soldier, killed in combat, in front of his family and or friends, is the lowest, ugliest most chickenshit thing you scumbags have ever done.
Pray we never meet.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:19 pmThat is my prayer, you goddamned peice of filth.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
got you so mad you are praying. Now thats mad.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:19 pmIgnore gerald, even the left has our assh0les. He has no idea what you’ve been through, or that you’re on our side.
Comment by Mr. Pee is the lamest troll ever
Agreed. Gerald Gibson Jr is a fool.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:21 pmkeep playing with the new names, but they can track you, and they can figure out when one name drops and the other starts.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:22 pmyou and your hatred will be gone. so go.
I think I’m going to give a copy of this comment to a friend of mine who posts over at BlackFive.
We’ll see what they think about someone mocking the death of a fallen US soldier in front of his own brother.
I’m betting they’re not going to think its so funny.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:23 pmIf the troops were real patriots they would desert and join the resistance. Iran would gladly come in to help them.
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr.
You’re not only a fool, you’re completely batsh!t. You belong down in the basement with the other trolls.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:24 pmDesert and be a true patriot.
No more killing of innocent Iraqis!
i… i… well, i… i have to agree… OUCH!!! don’t hurt me!!!
Surrender to the terrorists… that’s how to help the USA!
OOoh, that Mr. Bush… he is such a doo-doo head…
I hope… well… um… I hope that… well… um…
well… he is a Loser! There, I said it! A Loser with a capital “L”
WAIT!!! NO… WAIT!!! I TAKE IT BACK!!! president BUSH!!!
I take it back! PLEASE, please, please… don’t hurt me!
HELP!!! HELP!!!!
Defeatistly yours,
WHIMPY Harry “I might as well be in a coma” Reid
(aka #1 Surrender Monkey)
p.s. I hope the terrorists win, because I surrendered to them…
…
…don’t hurt me…
…
July 13th, 2007 at 8:25 pmI would beat up 10 Libs easy!
Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
Correction.
You would beat off 10 Libs easy.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:26 pmFolks. That is not Juan C talking, nor is it Gerald Gibson Jr.
It is Mr President, who also took the name of a fallen US Soldier, who died in Iraq, fighting the war this sissy supports, with his mouth.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:29 pmFrom the site’s Terms of Use policy:
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Why am I not surprised that some folks don’t have enough decency to abide by that bullet point?
July 13th, 2007 at 8:30 pmGerald Gibson Jr. has either been name-jacked or has proven himself unworthy of the respect of anyone on this site.
The troll who name-jacked the name of a fallen soldier in order to smear the name of a current soldier is the lowest of the low.
God, I don’t know why I’m surprised that trolls are capable of this kind of vile filth. I just thought they were having fun. I didn’t realize they were actually THIS disturbed.
Tired of Fighting thanks for your service. The loss of your friend and comrade is a loss for all Americans. Thank you for protecting the rights of all of us, even these pathetic children who have attacked you today.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:34 pmComment by Juan C. — July 13, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
h… hi Juan C.
I’m WHIMPY Harry “I might as well be in a coma” Reid…
… um… well… !!!DON’T HURT ME!!! sorry… sorry, I’m sorry…
I just wanted to say… that, um… well… I agree. … … In fact,
if I had my way… well… “American” would be synonymous with
“Surrender Monkey” …
for example, the following statement would be a tautology:
“All Americans are primates who surrender”
… don’t hurt me…
Defeatistly yours,
WHIMPY Harry “I might as well be in a coma” Reid
July 13th, 2007 at 8:38 pm(AKA #1 Surrender Monkey)
BARTLEBEE,
It’s me. I’m not mr President or a poll. You know very well I’m against this war and I don’t support American Imperialism.
I support the resistance!
How many times have I posted stating this?
Come on you know me!
Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
Thats right.
I do know you.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:57 pmGerald Gibson Jr. has either been name-jacked or has proven himself unworthy of the respect of anyone on this site.
Comment by spit take — July 13, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
Not either or spit.
Just either.
:|
Trust me.
That ain’t Gerald.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:58 pmBARTLEBEE,
You love the death of American troops you traitor.
It helps your side politically.
Don’t act so self righteous as you have stated that you hope Russia and China attack us.
You even said you would cheer them on.
You are a traitor and a Metrosexual Fag!
Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
I know I’d love your death Mr Liar.
In fact, I’d throw a party.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:02 pmI’d respond but something tells me your racial slurs will be removed, and your IP flagged.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:06 pmBARTLEBEE,
Whay are you a tritor?
Comment by Mr, President — July 13, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
Whats a tritor?
July 13th, 2007 at 9:07 pmTrust me.
That ain’t Gerald.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 13, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
Thanks, Bartlebee. I didn’t think it was Gerald, and it sounded too reverse-trollish to be believeable. But I just don’t know Gerald that well, and I wasn’t sure if maybe my mental image wasn’t way off.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:07 pmThis site has gone to the crapper, with the right winf trolls that have hijacked this site, to Gerald disrespecting a veteran and a soldier that died for his country
I cannot believe that TP has not pulled thse posts and banned all of these trolls, the right wing ones and the ones like Gerald that claim to be left wing, but I suspect are just another right wing troll trying to discredit we who are opposing the Bush administration and the evil they have done to this country.
I am sick of it and I will not be back untill this mess is cleaned up from TP’s site and these trolls gone for good
I will see if I can find another place to discuss issues without having to wade through racist posts, trolls trying to disrupt actuall discussion and posts that bash veterans that are allowed to stay on the site.
Goodbye to all my friends here, if TP cannot get their act together
July 13th, 2007 at 9:08 pmYo J. HOVA,
July 13th, 2007 at 9:10 pmMaaane, we gots ta get a brotha up in dis biyotch. You feel me?
We gots ta turn da White House, inta da Black House, my brotha!
Barack Obama is my mane, G!
Who you wit?
Is this where they slip in the “permission to invade Iran” clause?
July 13th, 2007 at 9:14 pmNow Mr President is name jacking me, which is fine. He can’t debate, so he cheats. Its all he can do.
But his use of racial slurs, and his mocking of a fallen US soldier, is unnacceptable, and I have reported it to ThinkProgress.
I strongly encourage all decent members on this site to take a moment, click the “CONTACT US” link below, and let TP staff know that racial slurs and mocking of dead fallen soldiers in front of their family members is unnacceptable to you.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:15 pmJay,
July 13th, 2007 at 9:16 pmYou know, I been chillin’ down herrrr in da derrty derrty.
Trina wit dat young homie, Lil’ Weasy, last I heeeard.
O’ F’sho’, a callabo would be off da hook!
We’d have da game on lock, ya feel me?
Here is the text of the message I just sent to TP regarding Mr. President.
BARTLEBEE,
Bush sux right homey. He don’t care bout us in da hood.
Will Hillary come correct ya thank?
Comment by Jigga Da Nigga — July 13, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
This comment is a racial slur and if it is allowed to stand will cast an unfavorable light on ThinkProgress and its staff.
The comment was posted by a poster normally going under the handle of “Mr. President”, who also assumed the name of a Dead Fallen Soldier in order to mock his family member in the same thread.
Insults and wisecracks are one thing.
But racial slurs against the African American community and the use of the word “nigga” and “jigga”, is unnacceptable for any website, and should not be tolerated.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
I strongly encourage each and everyone of you to take 2 minutes, and file a complaint with ThinkProgess against this troll, who normally goes by the handle, Mr. President.
No public website in the US should be permitting racial slurs to and racist hate speech to be published.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:19 pmH ta da IZZO,
July 13th, 2007 at 9:26 pmYou sure dat you caaaane still hannle da heat in da Soufff?
FLA ain’t no joke, my brotha!
Sheeeeet, from Clipse in VA ta T.I. in ‘Lanta, from Banna in da ‘Sipp’ ta 3Six in Tenn. ta Pit Bull repin’ M.I.A.M.I., da Southern take over is dominatin’ da radio!
I am sure TP will do the right thing here, but in case they feel that racist language mocking Black Americans is something they want on their site, then I suggest filing formal complaints with the FCC for racist hate speech being published on a public internet website.
Last time I checked,the FCC “frowns” on that sort of thing.
I would also suggest contacting the NAACP, and writing leaders like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson,etc, who I assure you can make trouble for a site that promotes hate speech.
All of which I will be doing if this speech is not removed from this site.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:26 pmI guess that screechy f*ckstick of a troll, with his numerous nicks,
is reeling with the impending revocation of Bush’s war powers. He sure seems to be hittin’ the gin bottle pretty hard tonight.
I hope he drowns in his vomit before morning.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:27 pmI’m gone for now until TP cleans this crap up.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:30 pmDude, there is help for you. try some lithium or thorazine, or go get laid… or some chocolate ice cream… try something to help you get better.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:32 pmWoah the Trolls have really gone to the crapper now. Totally coocoo.
They are probably hitting the crack pipe too often and have gone over the edge.
What about having a filter that automagically nukes post that have no sensible grammatic structure etc. That would help, Trolls would have to get the neighbor to write for them.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:33 pmYousa lia’ Jay,
July 13th, 2007 at 9:34 pmI known you from back when Dame owned Rockafella!
You did Big Pimpin’ wit Bun and Pimp C from UGK!
I saw dat fool trow up da rock befo dem shots was fiaed in D.C.!
Jay,
July 13th, 2007 at 9:42 pmDa Diplomats have entered da buildin’!
Win Dame had it we called it Rocafella,
Now dat you have it, it called Cockafella!
Who Tru Life, dat youngin’ dat try ta look like Jimmy?
“GOP Senators Want New War”
Sorry, ran out of room in the headline for “authorization”
July 13th, 2007 at 9:43 pmThe trolls have gotten drunk on c*ck. They’ve been hanging out in restrooms soliciting money for the McCain camapign.
-GSD
July 13th, 2007 at 9:45 pmKilla, leave dis fool alone, he don’t know about one-fif-teenff and Lenox!!!
He a punk from Brooklyn, he bite his style from B.I.G.!
July 13th, 2007 at 9:46 pmBartlebee,
I have written to Think Progress. I will not be frequenting these comments until a registration system is put in place which allow me to filter out the comments of those who are so lacking in empathy that they would mock the death of a human being in front of his friend.
To all of those who have enlightened and entertained me here, I thank you and wish you the best. Perhaps we may run into each other at other sites, or here (if registration is implemented).
Best wishes to all. May we one day live in a country where justice and truth prevail, and the spirit of our Constitution reigns once again!
July 13th, 2007 at 9:51 pmTo understand why the Republican party is imploding, all one has to do is to look at the vile filth the Republican trolls post on this site.
Heckuva job, trolls.
All you’re doing is making Republicans look bad. Keep on imploding!
25%, 24%, 23%…
July 13th, 2007 at 9:57 pmWhat the Hell has happened to TP?
No wonder none of us come around anymore.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:10 pmBartlebee,
I have written to Think Progress. I will not be frequenting these comments until a registration system is put in place which allow me to filter out the comments of those who are so lacking in empathy that they would mock the death of a human being in front of his friend.
To all of those who have enlightened and entertained me here, I thank you and wish you the best. Perhaps we may run into each other at other sites, or here (if registration is implemented).
Best wishes to all. May we one day live in a country where justice and truth prevail, and the spirit of our Constitution reigns once again!
Comment by Egreggious — July 13, 2007 @ 9:51 pm
DO YOU HEAR THAT, F -WADS @ TP?
HE HASN’T BEEN AROUND NEARLY AS LONG AS MANY OF US, BUT HE IS VALUED, AND YOU CONTINUE TO DRIVE US POSTERS AWAY.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO L-I-S-T-E-N TO YOUR POSTERS????????????????????????
July 13th, 2007 at 10:13 pmSnoop Dogg is the MAN.
He buys weed by the key, and that’s just for him.
And he plays golf with Lee Iacoccal
July 13th, 2007 at 10:14 pmNas,
July 13th, 2007 at 10:16 pmYousa window shoppa!
Mad at me?
I think I know why!
Exactly – you smirking little piss stain.
The Republicans have bin Laden, he’s one of them. He’s their boy. They’re working together.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:22 pmGood link. well, there you go. Precedent. Love. It.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:24 pmI just signed on…who’s the mental midget troll layin down the lame rhymes? Sounds like a loser to me…I’m just sayin…
July 13th, 2007 at 10:30 pmHi Pat.
Welcome to the TP night shift, where trolls go after happy hour to show thier manhood.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:32 pmMr. President:
Way to prove yourself of being an immature little boy. Do your parents know you’re posting on an ADULT blog? Come back when you grow up.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:33 pmMake that “their manhood.”
July 13th, 2007 at 10:34 pmWell, they suck,
Barfly.
TP has been sucking for a while, letting these
Ma-Roons muck up the place.
Emailed them.
Of course, no response.
We need a new website to go to, if you ask me.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:36 pmHello Barfly…my problem is not with happy hour…my problem is with the trolls. I just cannot figure out why they hate their country so much. They are just flat ruining it. It’s one thing to have a political view, but for at least 26% of Americans, a political view is not enough. They are supporting the most illegal administraion ever to occupy 1600 Pennsylvania. Ave.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:37 pmHi TrueBlue, Barfly, and TP friends! I’ve gone to C & L, and Kos as the dialogue is much more user friendly there, no trolls to speak of, and people are able to engage in intelligent discourse. I’ve all but given up on TP. The trolls make these threads a mockery for anyone wishing to discuss issues intelligently. Hope to see some of you over there! It’s MUCH better than the way these threads have degraded due to the trolls.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:38 pmThat would be the most illegal administration…that needed repeating anyways…dammit
July 13th, 2007 at 10:39 pmHi True. I guess I’m just like an old mule, who keeps going to the trough long after the well’s run dry.
Now, I just come here to try out new troll insults…
July 13th, 2007 at 10:39 pmWell, here’s a development sure to monkey-wrench Bush’s Iraq agenda:
DIYARBAKIR, Turkey, July 13 (Reuters) – Turkey’s army has boosted troop levels in the southeast to more than 200,000, most of them stationed along the border with Iraq, security sources told Reuters on Friday.
The unusually large-scale buildup, which includes tanks, heavy artillery and aircraft, is part of a security crackdown on Kurdish rebels hiding in southeast Turkey and northern Iraq, said the security sources, who declined to be named.
NATO member Turkey has refused to rule out a possible cross-border operation to crush Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) rebels, despite opposition from the United States and Iraq.
The military General Staff in Ankara was not immediately available for comment on the troop numbers.
The armed forces usually boost troop levels in the spring when PKK rebels based in northern Iraq cross the mountains to carry out attacks against Turkish targets.
But security forces said the current buildup was larger than normal. One source said that in Sirnak province troop levels were as high as 50,000 compared with 10,000-20,000 normally.
Highlighting Turkey’s security dilemma, army sources said on Friday two soldiers and two separatist rebels from the PKK had been killed in eastern Turkey during military operations over the past two days.
Dozens of soldiers and paramilitary police have been killed in an escalation of violence in east and southeast Turkey in recent months.
The army has repeatedly urged the government — which faces elections this month — to launch an operation against an estimated 4,000 PKK rebels based in northern Iraq.
Amid public anger over the deaths, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan has hinted parliament could be recalled to approve an operation but with just over a week before a parliamentary election has made no move yet to do so.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:40 pmThanks much Veritas…I’ll see you over there. I’m not online much, but have appreciated what you have had to say.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:40 pmI’ve noticed that the threads at other sites are much more timely than TP who doesn’t even put up new news until 9:00 or so in the morning and, other than trolls littering the threads all night, sifting through it to locate anything resembling intelligent conversation has all but disappeared. My opinion is that if TP doesn’t do something about the troll blabber soon, I fear that most people will simply find other blogs who care about the quality of their discussion venue.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:41 pmThanks, Pat! I echo your sentiments and enjoy your posts as well. For a while I simply stopped even reading the posts here and then realized when I returned that they’d degenerated even more. If I want to listen to a group of infantiles, I’ll go to my local nursery school instead.
Hope to see you on some of the better blogs soon!
July 13th, 2007 at 10:42 pm“They are supporting the most illegal administraion ever to occupy 1600 Pennsylvania. Ave.”
Comment by Pat
Well, as bad as Bush is, he never sold weapons to America’s enemies, and then lied about it to the American public. I think it’s a tie in that department.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:43 pm176
Are you some kind of doofus…or just 12 years old?
July 13th, 2007 at 10:43 pmProject Pat!
July 13th, 2007 at 10:44 pmWhen you goin ta come to da studio and lay down some of dat fire wit da triple six mafia!
Glad that I decided to check in this one last time to let some of my good friends and comerades in the fight for truth where I can now be found. I’d love to continue our chat in a more peaceful venue!!
Peace!
July 13th, 2007 at 10:45 pmComment by Jay-Z
You dwell in stereotype, and breathe cliche’. Congratulations, on having achieved such a zen-like plateau of irrelevance…
July 13th, 2007 at 10:45 pmRight Barfly…jelly bean reagan was also a detriment to the country. He set the table for these thugs in the WH to rape and pillage the country.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:46 pmYo Jay,
July 13th, 2007 at 10:46 pmAll da homeys in BK is happy bout dat news!
Hi veritas,
Another good poster driven away by TP’s lack of – well- any type of caring or control over their own website.
I will sign up on C&L.
Daily KOs messages confuse me. I don’t know who is answering whom.
:(
Barfly,
Another friendly face. Nice to see you.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:46 pmHow goes it this Friday evening?
hahahah….I see that it’s even degenerated to a foreign language – now that takes the cake! (Posts 179, 183) What the heck language is it? As I was saying….the degeneration of this blog has been unprecedented of late. Later, TP buddies.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:47 pmThanks, True! Yes, KOS is a bit confusing in the layout of their posts but C & L have a new format which I really like. (And all of the formatting works there, too – hoorah!). See you there!
July 13th, 2007 at 10:49 pmHow’d you like that last slam, True? It came to me today as I was driving to work, and it seemed to fit the rap-crap drivel the wannabe is posting.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:50 pmYay,
July 13th, 2007 at 10:50 pmDay is goin Kamikazi in Turkey cuzza dat adreniline rush, homey!
STFU,
Stupid F*cking idiots; learn how to actually form a complete sentence.
Then you can come back and give us your opinion, that is if you have enough brain cells to FORM one.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:50 pm#191 – Right!! Good night and good luck!
July 13th, 2007 at 10:50 pmVeritas – I’ve been haunting C&L myself lately. The trolls have really become degraded here, and I like a lively back and forth. The Rapper almost makes one long for MA… almost!
July 13th, 2007 at 10:53 pmIt was very poetic, barfly.
:)
It’s people like you that make it hard to leave this place.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:55 pmAllow me to introduce myself, I’m Makaveli da Don!
July 13th, 2007 at 10:57 pmI spit these spiritual lyrics like the holy Qu’ran!
The Rapper almost makes one long for MA… almost!
Comment by barfly — July 13, 2007
Remember the days of Ryan Neat? Damn, that was one troll beater.
MA, Cy. Implant,..I think those were our worst trolls.
Joe Sixpack used to pretend to be a redneck….
Ah, the good ‘ol days……
July 13th, 2007 at 10:58 pmOMFG!
Did my last post not make it because I had the temerity to mention Ryan N-E-A-T?
Please tell me I just don’t see that post on my computer yet, or I am going to have a meltdown….
July 13th, 2007 at 11:01 pmThanks, True.
Don’t give up; now’s the time to really rub trolls’ noses in their own dukey. They supported this shambling horror, and their advocacy should be hung round their necks like a rotting chicken, until they learn.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:01 pmOh, thank God!
There it is.
After 10 refreshings and not seeing it, I was about to go nuts on the f* filter……..
Now I’m a bit embarrassed.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:02 pm:}
I guess not, True.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:04 pmComment by Makaveli —
Buy a freaking dictionary!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:05 pmRemember the days of Ryan N-e-a-t? Damn, that was one troll beater.
MA, Cy. Implant,..I think those were our worst trolls.
Joe Sixpack used to pretend to be a redneck….
Ah, the good ‘ol days……
Comment by trueblue — July 13, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
July 13th, 2007 at 11:08 pmHow’s the weather on that side of the big A, True? We’re not getting hammered with the high temps here in San Diego that the rest of the west has been experiencing, thankfully.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:09 pmComment by barfly
Hang in there. If TP finally straps a pair on and starts maintaining their blog, we’ll likely see you again. Otherwise, it’s down the toilet.
I’m sure that PiPPy and his fellow troglodytes will be ecstatic for a day or so until they realize that, once again, no one is giving them any attention. Boo hoo. Better slink down to the shop ‘n rob and pick up some more glue.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:09 pm“Better slink down to the shop ‘n rob and pick up some more glue.”
Comment by gummitch —
And now, for Barfly’s tip of the day: When confronted with a bleeding wound in an area of the body not suited for bandaging, the use of SuperGlue to close the wound is very effective, and used in this manner in many emergency rooms..
July 13th, 2007 at 11:13 pmbarfly,
I live in Hyannis, MA.
It’s muggy here, but not 100 degrees or such. (The humidity still sucks, though)
July 13th, 2007 at 11:16 pmeeewwww,
barfly……. that’s not right.
It’s a funny visual, but just not right…………
;)
July 13th, 2007 at 11:18 pmActually True, a person I work with had to take his son to the e-room, and he related that to me.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:23 pmAnd now, for Barfly’s tip of the day: When confronted with a bleeding wound in an area of the body not suited for bandaging, the use of SuperGlue to close the wound is very effective, and used in this manner in many emergency rooms..
Comment by barfly
Yep, barfly’s got it right. It works. Now, if we could only hold Mr P down and glue his lips togehter… and then maybe use some stitches to secure the area until we get the staple gun fired up..
July 13th, 2007 at 11:23 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity
You’re incorridgable, my friend.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:26 pmReally?
They really do that to patients?
That just seems wrong. Butterfly stiches I get.
But supergluing a persons cut? (gash, wound, etc)???
**shudder**
July 13th, 2007 at 11:26 pmYou’re incorridgable, my friend.
Comment by barfly
What are you going to do? It’s all those years of studying the classics – Chuck Jones’ WB cartoons, Bullwinkel and Rocky, Mad magazine, Monty Python, the Simpsons. I’m just a product of the culture I grew up in :-D!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:29 pmBut supergluing a persons cut? (gash, wound, etc)???
**shudder**
Comment by trueblue
But it actually works!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:30 pmisn’t that what superglue came from?
July 13th, 2007 at 11:31 pmTo get back to the topic at hand…these repugs introducing this amendment are only chimpy leg humpers. Carrying the water for the WH…aren’t they true fucking patriots?
July 13th, 2007 at 11:32 pmIt’s a Brave New World. Super Glue is the new duct tape.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:32 pmhey. I don’t see our resident troll posts. shift over or did they ban him for that stuff with tired of fighting?
July 13th, 2007 at 11:33 pm“isn’t that what superglue came from?”
Such things aren’t discussed in polite company ;)
July 13th, 2007 at 11:34 pmisn’t that what superglue came from?
Comment by willyloman
Dunno… was it a military thing, like Velcro? I know Post-its were kind of an accident. A researcher at 3M came up w/ a glue that wouldn’t stick very well. Someone else had an idea – let’s try it on these little pads, and it became 3M’s biggest money maker.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:34 pmwilly loman…I suspect he committed hari kari… in the one sane moment that we were blessed with this evening.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:35 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity
I could be wrong but I heard it came from an emergency field dressing for serious wounds.
but what do I know. all I know is cheese.
Thats where cheese whiz came from. an emergency field dressing for serious wounds in the Nam.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:37 pmwilly loman…I suspect he committed hari kari… in the one sane moment that we were blessed with this evening.
Comment by Pat
God finally sent him a vision; what he looks like thru the eyes of others. That was all it took.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:38 pmIt’s 11:40pm, folks.
I’m tired.
Goodnight.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:38 pmI love Google!
Since its heralded beginning, the powerful adhesive known as Super Glue has enjoyed a rich history – including an imaginative element of mythology! Though urban legend describes the glue as an accidental solution to battle wounds during World War II, its actual evolution is a little different.
The original cyanoacrylates (the chemical name for the glue) were discovered in 1942 in a search for materials to make clear plastic gun sights for the war, and scientists stumbled upon a formulation that stuck to everything that it came in contact with. However, cyanoacrylates were quickly rejected by American researchers precisely because they stuck to everything! In 1951, cyanoacrylates were rediscovered by Eastman Kodak researchers Harry Coover and Fred Joyner, who recognized its true commercial potential, and it was first sold as a commercial product in 1958.
So, Super Glue came out the same year I did ;)
July 13th, 2007 at 11:38 pmG’night, True!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:39 pmDunno… was it a military thing, like Velcro?
Everybody knows that velcro came from the aliens.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:39 pmInteresting way of putting that, barfly…
July 13th, 2007 at 11:39 pm:)
Interesting way of putting that, barfly…
:)
I meant this……..
So, Super Glue came out the same year I did ;)
Comment by barfly
July 13th, 2007 at 11:40 pmLook, I know that Mr Pee has gone really overbard ad probably ruined the TP foprum for many single-handedly, and TP wll probably come back soon with registration requirements. I’ll miss this free-wheeling atmosphere, but maybe it’s for the best.
But let’s consider what drives poor Mr. Pee to act the way he does.
He’s clever for his age, but not early as clever as he think he is, and plus he’s probably scared sh!tless about entering high school in a couple of months. He’s obviously not very popular (his posting patterns on a Friday night confirm that) and his parents don’t really pay him much attention either.
He’s found a place where he can get attention, even if it’s negative, and for Mr. pee, that’s better than being lonely. So when TPers start to shun him, he creates new IDs and starts conversations with himself.
Yeah, it’s pathetic, and destructive, but when you’re a teenage right-winger, what’s a boy to do?
I guess I’ll check out C&L too. See you there.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:40 pmnight true.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:41 pmThanks.
I’m really going this time……
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
:))
July 13th, 2007 at 11:42 pmWe need a new website to go to, if you ask me.
Comment by trueblue
You can say that again. This site has been trashed.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:42 pmwhat is C&L?
July 13th, 2007 at 11:43 pmComment by spit take — July 13, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
Wow.
I haven’t posted anything for hours!!!!!!!
I take it someone has hi-jacked my name yet again!!!!!!!
I can’t wait to read what “I” said that has you so worked up!!!!!!
You Lefties are so quick so point the finger.
“Progressive” indeed.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:45 pmwhat is C&L?
Comment by willyloman
Crooks and Liars.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:45 pmthanks
July 13th, 2007 at 11:46 pm“I take it someone has hi-jacked my name yet again!!!!!!!”
Prove it, p-brain.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:47 pmYou idiots!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can’t believe you thought that was me!!!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:49 pmTalk to yourself, p-brain. I’m outtta here.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:50 pmProve it, p-brain.
Comment by barfly — July 13, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
——————————————————————
Nevermind, I see that you (maybe not you personally, but at least spit take and others) just assumed that one of the trouble makers here tonight was me.
Come on fellas, you should know my style by now!!!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:51 pmComment by spit take — July 13, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
Yeah, I found this when I googled ‘incessant talkers’
I. BEHAVIOR:
Specific attitudes and actions of this child at home and/or at school.
1.A compulsive talker. Loves to talk, and engages in the practice with one and all constantly.
2.Talks to teachers continually.
3.Talks to other students continually.
4.Will even talk to him/herself.
5.Makes irrelevant comments—at inappropriate times.
6.A poor listener.
7.Often does not realize that he/she is talking.
8.When teacher corrects, says, “I wasn’t talking to him; he was talking to me.”
9.Has a short attention span.
10.Craves attention.
………. A little bit of this stuff is amusing sometimes, but… that TP would let someone with a mental condition totally disrupt the comments section is pretty silly IMO
July 13th, 2007 at 11:51 pmCome on fellas, you should know my style by now!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
Yeah, we do! See
Comment by !!!!!!!!!!!!! — July 13, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
July 13th, 2007 at 11:53 pmYou Lefties are so quick so point the finger.
“Progressive†indeed.
Comment by Mr. President
STFU freakin’ liar. Nobody used your name. You and your friends are the lowest form of life. And you are getting the government you deserve. Hope you enjoy it.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:56 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius — July 13, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
You Lefties take your conspiracy theories too far sometimes. It is quite obvious that I meant that we have bin Laden in custody and are saving him for a “rainy day.”
It is also quite obvious that I did NOT mean that we are in cahoots with him!!!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:57 pmHope you enjoy it.
Comment by shane — July 13, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
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Thanks, I hope I do too!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:58 pmState Rep. Bob Allen, a co-chair of Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s Florida campaign, is expected to address Thursday charges (.pdf of arrest) that he offered to perform oral sex on an undercover male police officer for $20.
heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
July 13th, 2007 at 11:59 pm# 236 – Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
It was a natural mistake (if it WAS a mistake). I took you for a nasty troll who did his/her worst to wreak havoc with this thread on the Topic of Sens. Lugar and Wagner proposing a NEW authorization of the occupation and destruction of Iraq.
The troll in question: Jigga Da Nigga/Trick Daddy Dolla$$$/Rick Ross/Jay-Z/Eminem/Reakwon/Cam’ron/Jim Jones/Jigga Dat Nigga/Fif/Supreme/Rakim/DJ Paul/Memph Bleek/Kayne West/Twista (PLUS numerous other possible faux posts using the names of regular TP progressives in order to humiliate them), reminds me of you: A self-centered troll whose aim is derail TP threads and draw attention to her/himself.
To err is human.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:02 amI’ve contacted admins about this particular instance, but in the meantime, please ignore the little snots.
Comment by gummitch — July 13, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
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First of all, I’m not The Joker!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:03 amSecondly, I don’t name-jack people. (although MY name has been hijack frequently BY YOU LEFTISTS!!!)
Thirdly, I respect the troops for their service to our great country and I would never disrespect a fallen American soldier.
it was him.
hey, another Republican caught trying to sex-up some undercover cop. heehee
http://www.wftv.com/download/2007/0712/13672104.pdf
July 14th, 2007 at 12:04 amheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
Comment by willyloman
What’s he going to do, claim he actually offered the man $40?
“I am NOT a cheap trick… well, at least, not THAT cheap…”
You’d think the campaign manager for a man running for President would realize how much he’s in the public eye. Perhaps he will figure it out NOW, about 2 days too late for his career’s and the McCain campaign’s sake.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:05 amTo err is human.
Comment by hterrya — July 14, 2007 @ 12:02 am
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No problem.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:05 amThirdly, I respect the troops for their service to our great country and I would never disrespect a fallen American soldier.
Comment by Mr. President
If you just showed up, how do you know what it was all about?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:05 am(although MY name has been hijack frequently BY YOU LEFTISTS!!!)
Thirdly, I respect the troops for their service to our great country
and I would never disrespect a fallen American soldier.
Comment by Mr. President
3 lies in a row… hey, it’s a Hat trick!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:07 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity
Haha. This guy is sooooo pathetic, he was going to pay him to let him s%ck his weenie!!!
That is as low as it gets.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:07 amIf you just showed up, how do you know what it was all about?
Comment by willyloman
Careful, Salesman, you’re making sense…
July 14th, 2007 at 12:08 amHaha. This guy is sooooo pathetic, he was going to pay him to let him s%ck his weenie!!!
That is as low as it gets.
Comment by willyloman
And desperate… don’t forget the word desperate in there.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:08 amTo err is human.
Comment by hterrya
It WAS Mr. President. He started this crap on the last thread. Don’t believe anything he and CT say. They are menaces.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:09 amOh, it’s not obvious at all – it’s called a slip of the tongue (in this case, its a slip of the fingers).
There are conspiracy theories – like the Trilateral Comission, and there are Conspiracy Theories – like the well-known and documented relationships between the bin Laden and Bush clans, the Bushes and the Saudis, and International oil interests and the made members of the WH mafia.
See here, you little git: Osama bin Laden is the Republican’s ace in the hole – straight up and simple, and for better or worse. He belongs to them, and they to him.
Don’t try to play it away you little traitor.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:09 amWhat did John McCain’s campaign manager say to the boyish cop?
(it’s a joke)
answer- “I’ll give you $20 to spluge in my mouth”
July 14th, 2007 at 12:10 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity
Maybe it’s not me? hmmmmmmmm
July 14th, 2007 at 12:10 amDon’t try to play it away you little traitor.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Why, Marcus, you say that as though you mean it.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:11 amThanks, Pat! I echo your sentiments…
Comment by veritas — July 13, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
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No… Get out…
You “echo” his sentiments?!?!!
Why… that’s unheard of on a Leftist blog!!!
I don’t believe it!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:11 amThat’s a lie, because you have repeatedly stated that you are a Republican. The two conditions are mutually exclusive.
Your a traitor to your country and to all who have served her in honesty and integrity. You are a disgusting Republican coward.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:12 amTopic: Sens. Lugar and Wagner are proposing “…that President Bush should seek a new war authorization and present a plan to Congress by Oct. 16 outlining contingency plans in Iraq. Those plans, which would include reducing American forces, should begin by the end of the year.â€
Mr. President: Even with your SERIOUS mental retardation problem, do you think you could STAY ON TOPIC and quit trying to bring this thread back to YOU?
Thanks.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:13 amanswer- “I’ll give you $20 to spluge in my mouthâ€
Comment by willyloman
I’m really hoping somoen gets teh footage of THAT news converence and posts it on-line. It s/b hysterically funny watching him try to back peddle on this one.
I wish i could have been there when McCain got the news…
“He got pinched for doing WHAT?????”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… oops, almost hurt myself laughing so hard!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:14 amAround here, after 15 posts, the topic is how stupid Mr. President is. Apparently it’s tradition or something.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:14 amSo, you’re saying that the Republican administration has bin Laden in custody, and will let him out to attack America when it serves their political ends? Treason! Thats TREASON! And you suport this group?
You are a slug, and a traitor, and I hope you pay the price for your crimes against your country.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:15 amComment by Marcus Aurelius — July 14, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Well, I guess I should have been more specific.
However, I believe that Osama is our ace in the hole, that is, he is rotting in a shit hole cell somewhere right now!!!
One day, when the gov’t wants to get people psyched about the War on Terror again, indeed, Osama will turn up in a dirt hole in some god forsaken wasteland of country!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:16 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity
I can see McCain trying to hang himself with those arms of his. Poor bastard, survived a Viet Nam POW camp to come back here to this crap.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:16 amComment by Marcus Aurelius — July 14, 2007 @ 12:15 am
Nope. See my last post.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:16 amAround here, after 15 posts, the topic is how stupid Mr. President is. Apparently it’s tradition or something.
Comment by willyloman
Right… kind of like Pinata party time…
July 14th, 2007 at 12:18 amMcCain survived YEARS in a rice paddy submerged in a bamboo cage eating rats and dead people…
to come this far just to be shot down by some Campaign Manager freak with a twenty and a hard on.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:19 amRight… kind of like Pinata party time…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
or a turkey shoot
July 14th, 2007 at 12:20 amYeah. And one day, jesus is coming back. And your lame-ass is talkin’ conspiracy theories? WTF? You are in LaLa land. Instigator. Traitor. Coward. Wuss.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:20 amThanks.
Comment by hterrya — July 14, 2007 @ 12:13 am
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Sure,
But it would have been easier if I hadn’t clicked on this thread just to see two hours worth of comments accusing me of mocking a fallen soldier!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:21 amTo the Self-Absorbed, Mentally-Challenged Mr. President:
I repeat for your short attention span:
Topic: Sens. Lugar and Wagner are proposing “…that President Bush should seek a new war authorization and present a plan to Congress by Oct. 16 outlining contingency plans in Iraq. Those plans, which would include reducing American forces, should begin by the end of the year.â€
Mr. President: Even with your SERIOUS mental retardation problem, do you think you could STAY ON TOPIC and quit trying to bring this thread back to YOU?
Thanks.
Comment by hterrya — July 14, 2007 @ 12:13 am
July 14th, 2007 at 12:21 amPoor bastard, survived a Viet Nam POW camp to come back here to this crap.
Comment by willyloman
He used to be seen as a politician w/ integrity, if such a thing is possible. But after he went and kissed the Pope.. I mean Falwell’s a.., I mean RING, kissed Falwell’s ring, Geez, where does the man go now?
And on top of it all, his campaign manager gets busted for offering to suck a cop’s weinie for $20!
I’m telling you guys, we should form a pool and bet on which Repub is going to implode in public next. I mean, if you had picked Allen w/ good odds, you could have picked up some serious money this week!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:22 amComment by hterrya — July 14, 2007 @ 12:13 am
Actually, you are absolutely right!
How dare I interupt TRoS and willyloman continuing to talk shit!?
Carry on fellas!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:24 amThat’s a lie, because you have repeatedly stated that you are a Republican. The two conditions are mutually exclusive.
Your a traitor to your country and to all who have served her in honesty and integrity. You are a disgusting Republican coward.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — July 14, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Here here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Presidick was the Boy Cop. He’s a trick in every way.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:24 amSens. Lugar and Wagner are proposing “…that President Bush should seek a new war authorization and present a plan to Congress by Oct. 16 outlining contingency plans in Iraq. Those plans, which would include reducing American forces, should begin by the end of the year.â€
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On topic:
NOT A CHANCE THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:25 amI’m telling you guys, we should form a pool and bet on which Repub is going to implode in public next. I mean, if you had picked Allen w/ good odds, you could have picked up some serious money this week!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Done. Tommy Thompson’s Campaign Manager will get caught on DateLine ToCatch A Preditor, walking into the house naked with a bag of hotdogs and a jar of Vaseline to meet “Billy” a 10 year old autistic child.
Where do I put the money down. I got a lock on this one.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:26 amha ha
July 14th, 2007 at 12:26 amCarry on fellas!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Strangely enough, I thought it’d make you feel right at home.
After 7 yrs of “Republican rule”, you gotta understand, everytime a repub humiliates himself in public, I find it hysterically funny.
HEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:26 amto meet “Billy†a 10 year old autistic child.
Where do I put the money down. I got a lock on this one.
Comment by willyloman
Hmmm… you might be right about that.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:27 am# 280 – Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 12:24 am
“How dare I interupt TRoS and willyloman continuing to talk shit!?”
Just like the usual, juvenille, NeoCon Troll, blaming others instead STAYING ON TOPIC!
Topic: Sens. Lugar and Wagner are proposing “…that President Bush should seek a new war authorization and present a plan to Congress by Oct. 16 outlining contingency plans in Iraq. Those plans, which would include reducing American forces, should begin by the end of the year.â€
July 14th, 2007 at 12:28 amNOT A CHANCE THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Oh gosh, any you say we’re talking shit…
July 14th, 2007 at 12:28 amYeah, Mr. Preisdent. Sounds to me like the Republican Campaign Manager wanted to suck on some…
GOOooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOoooooOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:28 amFred Thompson will be outed when what he refers to as his “colostomy bag” turns out to be a rubber hanging out of his ass.
$20.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:29 am$20.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Oh, putting a sawbuck on Thompson, huh? Willy, how much are you putting dwon on “Campaing Manager-DateLine”? (I like that one, BTW…)
July 14th, 2007 at 12:31 amFred Thompson will be outed when what he refers to as his “colostomy bag†turns out to be a rubber hanging out of his ass.
$20.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
All right that’s $20 from me for the Thompson Autistic Preditor
and $20 from Marcus on the Spluge filled rubber in Thompsons ass
any other takers?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:31 amHa! Now this is a good time!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:33 amHey what does John McCain’s Campaign Manager like to eat?
(thats a real question, not a joke)
SPLOOooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOoooooOOOOge!!!!!!!!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:34 amAnd I always thought “Colostomy” was the name of an obscure Greek philosopher… goes to show what you can learn on the “Internets”, huh?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:34 amHa! Now this is a good time!
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
lol
July 14th, 2007 at 12:35 amYeah, I figured my comment would bring out Mr Pee’s primary identity, and he would deny posting under the other handles But his style and tactics have become recognizable.
The really sad thing is, I think he believes he has a reputation for integrity around here. Poor kid.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:35 amTopic: Sens. Lugar and Wagner are proposing “…that President Bush should seek a new war authorization and present a plan to Congress by Oct. 16 outlining contingency plans in Iraq. Those plans, which would include reducing American forces, should begin by the end of the year.â€
Comment by hterrya — July 14, 2007 @ 12:28 am
Beautiful hterrya. Love it. Thuglican IMPLOSION. Eating themselves like the wretched vermin that they are. Jail is for thugs; jail is for Rethuglicans.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:36 amHa! Now this is a good time!
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
It is kind of interesting, isn’t it? How different this gets when the nasties are gone. We just settle right in and have a good time.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:36 amI think you thinking of the 3rd century BC poet and philosopher, Testicles.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:37 amComment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Willy you’re killin me. Really, seriously, very funny.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:38 amThe really sad thing is, I think he believes he has a reputation for integrity around here. Poor kid.
Comment by spit take
The only reason you feel sorry for him is that you think he is a kid. he’s said he was 16, he’s said the was in college, he’s said he is going to UT in two years, he’s said he isn’t in high school yet, he’s said he’s graduated college.
My guess. he isn’t s kid. They just know that they get sympathy from people when they think they are young.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:39 amPolitician of this country is fooling around with their citizens…
This country needs major clean up in its political population.
oh !, btw ,I’m off to Pakistan, heard they doubled the bounty amount to $50 M on Bin Laden
in case anybody looking for me I’ll be in NWFP area….
July 14th, 2007 at 12:39 amHey guys. What’s up?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:40 amSo, on the serious side: do you think that when the right wing turns on Bush, he’ll go to his new ranch in Paraguay and hang himself, or will he do it in Crawford?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:40 amThe fix is in.
Congress has not been able to rein in the power grab by Chimpy and Cheney.
We are talking about a coup de etat here. The end of the Great Experiment. The slippery slope to fascism.
Its going to be a helluva ride. Please fasten your safety belts.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:40 amTesticles and the Lyin’???
Doesn’t Mr P “claim” to have studied Philosophy? Maybe he’s read that one, and colored the pictures too.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:41 amHey guys. What’s up?
Comment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 12:40 am
Big time nasty stuff – watch yer step.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:41 amI think you thinking of the 3rd century BC poet and philosopher, Testicles.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Nope. You are both wrong. That would be 2nd century St. Syphilitus the Wet. he was know for having the large boils under his nut sack. he would heal the sick by making them lick the boils, for $20.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:42 am# 298 – Comment by JoeySoCal — July 14, 2007 @ 12:36 am
JoeySoCal: Perhaps you missed my original (on topic) comment (#15):
I would support Sens. Lugar and Warner in their legislation, if that same legislation ENDED the invasion legislation (H. J. Res. 114) and was VERY SPECIFIC that the their legislation specifically BARS the invasion of Iran (or ANY OTHER COUNTRY!) without NEW legislation!
In my opinion, this is just another attempt by Lugar and Warner to protect their rear ends from their constituents who are UNIVERSALLY opposed to giving the current corrupt, crooked president a blank check to persue his debacle in Iraq!
Comment by hterrya — July 13, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
July 14th, 2007 at 12:42 amHey guys. What’s up?
Comment by Zooey
Rough afternoon at TP… we’re trying to right the ship, so to speak.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:42 amThe only reason you feel sorry for him is that you think he is a kid. he’s said he was 16, he’s said the was in college, he’s said he is going to UT in two years, he’s said he isn’t in high school yet, he’s said he’s graduated college.
My guess. he isn’t s kid. They just know that they get sympathy from people when they think they are young.
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 12:39 am
You might be right, Willy, but something about his snot-nosed arrogance and constant need for attention tells me he’s a kid. A little precocious — just enough to piss off his classmates, but not enough to really excel.
I could be wrong, but there’s something in his characteristic “voice” that says “young teen” to me. Maybe it’s just an immature way of looking at the world, I don’t know.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:43 amSt. Syphilitis… wasn’t he friends w/ Herpes the Greek?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:44 amHey guys. What’s up?
Comment by Zooey
Hey you. Welcome home. We ran off the rodents, just for you.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:44 amSt. Syphilitis… wasn’t he friends w/ Herpes the Greek?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
yeah, they used to hand out with………(wait for it)….
Gonna of Rea!
July 14th, 2007 at 12:45 amComment by spit take
Could be. In that case we are toughening him up for a difficult world.
or making a little monster. one or the other.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:46 amSo, when the republican rank and file realize that Lugar and Warner are giving tacit permission for them to throw the Deciderer under the political bus, will he hang himself in Paraguay or Texas?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:47 amHey did anybody see Baghdad Job’s ratioinalization as to why it’s OK that the Iraq Parliament went on vacation for a month?
His excuse was that the weather is so hot there. Could there be a bigger insult to our troops who are on extended 4 tours of duty, fighting and dying in that heat?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I just am spitting mad all day since I saw that. That guy should be sent to the Hague.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:47 amHey Zooey! You missed all the “fun”. Lucky you.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:47 amTha Hague can’t hold ‘em all. That’s wht Gitmo’s for.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:49 amwill he hang himself in Paraguay or Texas?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Sooner or later, ONE President will commit suicide, or be found lying on the WH lawn unconscious, in his bathrobe, w/ an empty whisky bottle clutched in one hand, or perhaps leave the WH in a straight jacket. It’s going to happen sooner or later. Hmmm…
Quite frankly, I find Bush’s tone of voice, body language, and the look in his eyes disturbing. This man has gone over the edge.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:50 amDick Luger sounds like the name of a gay porn star.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:50 amSo, on the serious side: do you think that when the right wing turns on Bush, he’ll go to his new ranch in Paraguay and hang himself, or will he do it in Crawford?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
You see Dick Gregory in that video of dancing Rove of the Kung-fu-hands-bunny-hop? These people don’t turn on each other. Idi Amen lived in Saudi Arabia till 2003 when he died. He had dinners with Reagan, Bush, Clinton, all different types, after he killed almost 300,000 of his own people from 71-78.
He never hung himself. Another failed “boy king”.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:50 amHey did anybody see Baghdad Job’s ratioinalization as to why it’s OK that the Iraq Parliament went on vacation for a month?
His excuse was that the weather is so hot there. Could there be a bigger insult to our troops who are on extended 4 tours of duty, fighting and dying in that heat?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Comment by JoeySoCal — July 14, 2007 @ 12:47 am
I saw that. Pathetic. One of the reporters pointed out that it was 130 degrees for our troops, too, and Snowjob noted that “it was also hot here in Washigton DC”. Snowjob seems as despirited as the trolls these days.
I expect pretty soon he’ll be responding to reporters’ questions with a monotone, “yeah, whatever.”
July 14th, 2007 at 12:51 amComment by hterrya — July 14, 2007 @ 12:42 am
No, I did catch your post, h. And yeah, of course your point is utterly correct. But that’s what is so sweet about it. They are so incompetent and unable to govern, that they’ve locked themselves into a position where they have to eat each other just to try and salvage anything for themselves. Which, if there is any benevolent higher powers, will be in utter vain.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:52 amZooey:
A VERY deranged troll, who many think is actually “Mr. President,” the mentally-challenged troll, tried to dominate this thread (as “Mr. President” routinely and continually does). Tried and FAILED!
TP was alerted, and the troll(s) in here is(are) no longer using the offending aliases, but the trolls are still equally offensive. {:-)
I am still trying to get us back on topic:
Sens. Lugar and Wagner are proposing “…that President Bush should seek a new war authorization and present a plan to Congress by Oct. 16 outlining contingency plans in Iraq. Those plans, which would include reducing American forces, should begin by the end of the year.â€
Unlike the deranged trolls, I hope I am trying and NOT failing. {:-)
July 14th, 2007 at 12:52 amDick Luger sounds like the name of a gay porn star.
Comment by Tom3
And you say that like it’s a bad thing, Tom3.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:53 amThank for the welcome, everyone. I’m in Portland right now.
Dare I ask what I missed?
July 14th, 2007 at 12:53 amHe went over the edge waaaaay before he went into politics. He’s gonna be crushed emotionally (if that’s possible for a sociopath), when he understands what the entire world, including Americans, including Texans, think of him.
for the record, I say Paraguay, for two reasons:
1. it’s more insane, and;
2. he won’t be allowed to go back to Crawford.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:53 amI recommend you read all of my posts.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:54 amQuite frankly, I find Bush’s tone of voice, body language, and the look in his eyes disturbing. This man has gone over the edge.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
This guy is in soooo far over his head. And he knows it. he has to do whatever they want him to do, or he gets charged with treason and killed. killed dead. killed really dead. dead. like dead and shit.
What does that do to a boy king? He knows we know he is lying? and he knows that we know why hes lying and he knows that we know that he knows that we know hes lying.
And he has to say it anyway.
That would make me crazy. it makes me crazy just typing it.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:55 amYeah…whatever.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:57 amThat would make me crazy. it makes me crazy just typing it.
Comment by willyloman
I personally think we’re in an incredibly dangerous time right now. I haven’t been this scared in my whole life, except maybe the Cuban missle crisis.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:58 amzooey. a guy named tired of fighting posted about the situation over there and his fallen friend.
it was very touching. and people respectfully thanked him for his post.
alittle while latter, these trolls (Mr. P?) showed up and one of them took the name of his fallen friend and started saying horrible things too the guy.
So, I used the email address in the contact place and the one posted before for the faiz? guy, and others sent some stuff in.
it was pretty tasteless.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:59 amRon Paul: U.S. In “Great Danger” Of Staged Terror Congressman & presidential candidate warns of economic collapse precipitated by bombing of Iran:
Presidential candidate Ron Paul says the U.S. is in “great danger” of a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation while also warning that a major collapse of the American economy is on the horizon and could be precipitated by the bombing of Iran and the closure of the Persian Gulf.
Speaking to The Alex Jones Show, the Texas Congressman was asked his opinion on Cindy Sheehan’s recent comments that the U.S. is in danger of a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation that will validate the Neo-Con agenda and lead to the implementation of the infrastructure of martial law that Bush recently signed into law via executive order, as well as public pronouncements from prominent officials that the West needs terrorism to save a doomed foreign policy.
“I think we’re in great danger of it,” responded the Congressman, “We’re in danger in many ways, the attack on our civil liberties here at home, the foreign policy that’s in shambles and our obligations overseas and commitment which endangers our troops and our national defense.”
July 14th, 2007 at 1:00 amI recommend you read all of my posts.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
All posts ever, or just this thread? :)
July 14th, 2007 at 1:00 amDick Luger sounds like the name of a gay porn star.
Comment by Tom3
And you say that like it’s a bad thing, Tom3.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Its bad if he wants to get re-elected in Indiana. LOL!!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:04 amBarbara Boxer: “This Is As Close As We’ve Ever Come To A Dictatorship”
Barbara Boxer on the Ed Schultz Show yesterday:
SCHULTZ: “They’re throwing down the gauntlet. They’re just declaring that they’re not going to change anything — the President in Cleveland yesterday saying, we’re just getting started….”
BOXER: “Yeah. I mean, you left out a bunch of things — spying on citizens without a warrant, going around FISA, on and on. Look, I have always said it should be on the table. Ed, I’ve always said it. I was on a book tour and I ran into John Dean of Watergate fame. He was on the book tour that I was on, for his book. And it was right after we discovered that the administration was spying on our people without a warrant. And he just said, he looked at me and basically just said, as far as he could see, unless there was some explanation for this, this was impeachable. I’ve always said that you need to keep it on the table, and you need to look at these things, because now people are dying because of this administration. That’s the truth. And they won’t change course. They are ignoring the Congress. They keep signing these signing statements which mean that he’s decided not to enforce the law. This is as close as we’ve ever come to a dictatorship. When you have a situation where Congress is stepped on, that means the American people are stepped on. So I don’t think you can take anything off the table. Because in fact the Constitution doesn’t permit us to take these things off the table….”
July 14th, 2007 at 1:04 amwillyloman,
Is that this thread?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:05 amComment by FOX News
Hmmm… yeah…. that was what I was getting at. Paul may be a bit of nut, but there’s alot of thruth in his comments there. This is one scary time. This is really, really, really bad.
And there’s a delusional, dry drunk in the WH w/ his finger on the button.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:05 amThis is a joke, a ruse, this is just so it looks like some “responsible†Repuppetcan’s were the ones who got the POTUS to reduce the level of troops. There are “troops†who were supposed to be home in JULY 07 but were extended so they will be coming back in Sep-Oct anyway. will that be seen as a reduction NO because the units that they replaced (MY unit) will be replacing them after OUR units were deactivated in one place and then reflagged as another unit and made to look like WE are a new unit therefore= NEW TROOPS.
So WEâ€RE being recycled and it looks to those who dont know that the POTUS is listening but he is just rotating us from one place to another. Thats how it is without all of the rhetoric, BS, and Bush/GOP-speak.
And where are all the “General’s on the ground†(in my best Bush voice), They’re all somewhere on their knees praying to a life-size George Bush cutout, and the ones who do speak out (the 5-10 who have a pair) are no longer “Generals on the ground†or anywhere else for that matter .
So this is again just political cover so some Repuppetcans come Nov 08 can say they “broke†with the POTUS, if they really cared about “the troops†this would have been done in 05,06.
What the hell did we give the Dems the House and Senate for if all they do is live in fear of LIEberman, MAD-Man MCcain, AIPAC, and a bunch of the most ignorant, incompetent, dishonest public officials and media personalities ever to roam the earth.
This country is falling apart
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
July 16th would have been his 30th birthday, we miss and love you brother
Or as the POTUS, his enablers, apologists, and just followers call him
comma #1462
Comment by Tired Of Fighting — July 13, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
starts at 26
July 14th, 2007 at 1:06 amThe jig is up! The republicans can’t hide the stench of their failed leadership any longer (lots of bodies, both figuratively and literally, are coming to the surface), and the electorate is pretty sure that the bad smell isn’t coming from the Democrats. The only thing the repugs who want to maintain their positions can do, at this point, is to be able to claim that they were the first to wash their hands of Bush (or, the first to stop drinking the kool-aid and sober up). Pretty soon, they’ll be crawling over eachother to get their licks on him (Cheney will even try to join in. Et tu Brute?).
I just can’t wait until the MSM figures out why they aren’t making the big bucks any more.
Bush is fixin’ to get lit up!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:06 amBecause in fact the Constitution doesn’t permit us to take these things off the table….â€
Comment by FOX News
Well then, Effing DO SOMETHING!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:07 amI’m just sayin’…
July 14th, 2007 at 1:07 amImpeachement
Impeachement
Impeachement
Impeachement
Impeachement
Impeachement
Say it loud, say proud, say it countless times per day. Say it as often as Mr. President is stupid. That’s a lot.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:08 amDare I ask what I missed?
Comment by Zooey
More or less mass exodus by long-time posters, fed up with TP’s inability to control the trolls. Scroll up to about 7:30 pm EDT and you’ll see one of our resident POS trolls namejack a dead soldier. It went downhill from there, if you can believe it.
PiPPy would like us to believe that he was offline at the time. Maybe mommy sent him out for ciggies, I dunno. But the usual turds (PiPPy, The Jerker, et al) were clearly in freefall. Some solid participants here have simply left. If TP doesn’t get it together soon, PiPPy and his cadre of losers will be touching one another and no one will be here to care. A few of us have mailed TP, Faiz but no response. I sent Faiz a message via facebook, but I suppose it’s Friday night and he’s off-duty so, y’know, wtf? I hope he has a great evening.
If I don’t get a constructive response from him at some point soon (after I pick the pine needles out of my arse this weekend), I’m exodusing with the rest.
Cheers. Hope you have a productive visit to Stumptown.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:08 amComment by Tired Of Fighting
If only 1 in 300 Americans back here had the courage that you guys do over there, we could end this shame in a day. Bring our soldiers home.
I am embarassed of this administration and the congress that enables it. But more than anything, I am embarassed we here at home haven’t forced an end to this thing.
We need to get mad, not for the inevitable supression of the citizens here, but rather, for those who have been sent into harms way for questionable reasons and kept there with out-right lies.
It is truely a sobering moment when these blogs are starkly reminded that we are talking about men and women and not principles or ideals. I thank you for posting here. It is important that we hear from you, and we take action.
My sympathies go out to you and the family of SGT Stephen R. Sherman. You should know that not all of us here back home see him or any other lose in this conflict as a comma.
I wish the same could be said of the POTUS.
Comment by willyloman — July 13, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
post 33
then after that they started in
July 14th, 2007 at 1:08 amSheehan: Distinct Chance Of Staged Attack, Martial Law
Peace Mom warns of false flag terror as she prepares to take on sell-out Pelosi:
Cindy Sheehan, the famous Peace Mom who recently expressed her intention to run against Nancy Pelosi in San Francisco, says there’s a “distinct possibility” that America will be hit with another staged terror attack that will allow Bush to enact the martial law provisions he recently signed into law.
Sheehan spoke to The Alex Jones Show as she prepares to embark on a two week trek towards Washington to confront Pelosi.
Asked what she thought of numerous recent comments on behalf of politicians, military analysts and GOP kingpins that the Bush administration needs more terror to save a doomed foreign policy, along with recent legislation that establishes the framework for martial law in the event of an emergency, Sheehan was open to the plausibility that another false flag attack could be visited upon the American people.
“I definitely think that is a distinct possibility, that there will be some kind of attack whether it’s manufactured or real….I think it’s really possible that these people will do that – why would he [Bush] put in that presidential directive if he didn’t need to use it – I think it’s really really frightening,” Sheehan told The Alex Jones Show.
“Does anybody think that [Bush's] recent presidential decision directive wasn’t for declaring martial law and suspending elections – that’s why they have to be stopped,” added Sheehan.
Recently liberated from the straightjacket of partisan control, Sheehan attacked the Democrats for failing to achieve what they were voted in to do last November.
“The culture of corruption doesn’t stop at the Republican party and people need to realize that Democrats are not our saviors,” said Sheehan.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:08 amI think we are screwed.
Chimpy and Cheney can bomb Iran any time they want.
Chimpy can declare martial law any time he wants for any excuse. Look it up.
We are fucked. Fuck fuck fuckity fucked.
Goodbye United States of America. Welcome to the Chimpire.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:09 amgummich? who left? I took off after posting that I had contacted TP?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:09 am#
gummich? who left? I took off after posting that I had contacted TP?
Comment by willyloman
Ach, you’ll have to go back and read the thread. All that stuff before you asked “what’s c and l?”
July 14th, 2007 at 1:11 amyou know what was interesting about the trolls?
None of them said anything for awhile after tired of fightings post. then they all jumped in at once?
Like they were concidering a stratigy to take with it or something.
anyone else get that feeling?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:12 amIf you have contacted TP, please contact your doctor.
TP is contagious and may make other people suddenly realize they’ve been getting royally fucked by Chimpy and Cheney.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:12 amThanks guys. I have Faiz’s email address, but can’t access it remotely. I’ll see if I can use the google to find it. We’ll have better results emailing him directly.
I can’t believe the sickness of someone who could do this….
July 14th, 2007 at 1:14 amtrolls with a strategy?
that’s actually quite remarkable.
we should pat them on their pointy little heads.
and say “well done, good show!”
July 14th, 2007 at 1:15 amBartlebee, Wayne, and others. Gone. I hadn’t read all the racist stuff. Honestly, I thought you were gone as well Zooey.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:18 am#350: you know what was interesting about the trolls?
I still think it’s just one guy; one guy and a gin bottle.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:18 amLike they were concidering a stratigy to take with it or something.
anyone else get that feeling?
Comment by willyloman
There was a truly nasty swarm about 3 weeks ago, on a thread about Conservative dominance of AM radio. Over 4000 posts in 12 hrs, almost all ugly conservative comments, like Conservatron makes. There was a link to Drudge’s site on that one. It really was kind of bizarre. Today was just really tasteless. Funny, the Cons call us Stalinists and scream censorship, but they’re the ones destroying the dialogue w/ that sort of behavior. Who’d a thunk???
July 14th, 2007 at 1:19 amI just finished reading through most of the comments. Pretty f*cked up! Wayne had told me a couple of hours ago about the trashing that was going on. I can’t believe this crap.
Well, Zooey, if anyone can get some action out of Faiz, it’s you–and that wasn’t meant to be suggestive!;-)
Willy, you had some great posts in there tonight! Way to go!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:19 amBartlebee, Wayne, and others. Gone. I hadn’t read all the racist stuff. Honestly, I thought you were gone as well Zooey.
Comment by willyloman
Hopefully they will come back after a break. I was looking in on that ugliness wile working. A truly tasteless, bizarre routine.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:20 amWilly, you had some great posts in there tonight! Way to go!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
thank you. I ws wondering if you and the other half had fallen victom to the thread here. I’m glad to see you have not. TP must get on the ball and register people. I think the only reason they don’t is because they will get less hits.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:21 amI still think it’s just one guy; one guy and a gin bottle.
Comment by Arthur C.
Could be wrong, but it was almost too much to be just one person.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:21 amComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 14, 2007 @ 1:19 am
That was the thread where all the name-jackings began, when the trolls linked from Drudge to here. My name got troll-jacked there, then the same person continued it within the next few days, on a Keith Olbermann thread. I contacted TP at the time, but nothing happened.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:22 amThanks guys. I have Faiz’s email address, but can’t access it remotely. I’ll see if I can use the google to find it. We’ll have better results emailing him directly.
I can’t believe the sickness of someone who could do this….
Comment by Zooey
You posted it in a thread some days back, and I failed to make a note of it. Now I can’t remember which thread it was; seems to me it was four or five days back. Perhaps you remember. If you can find it, please send it to me via the usual. I’m likely off to be shortly so I can gather my strength to meet the bears, bugs and snores of the Great Outdoors in the a.m. but I’ll check back.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:22 amFolks, about the trolls:
“Let the dogs bark Sancho, it’s a sign that we keep advancing” – Don Quijote de la Mancha
July 14th, 2007 at 1:22 amI think the only reason they don’t is because they will get less hits.
Comment by willyloman
I agree. Most of the time, I like the free-wheeling atmosphere here. But bejeebers, days like this really test ya, don’t they? It’s a shame to see what some people consider free speech to be about.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:23 amSorry, I can’t find Faiz’ email with the google. I wish I could remember it!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:24 amI know I sent it to trueblue, I’ll write her on facebook and ask her to post it next time she’s on TP.
Netvocates wrote:
NetVocates provides its clients with expertise in blog monitoring and advocacy. Our trained staff of experts utilizes a unique combination of proprietary technology and human analysis to deliver a focused stream of timely, actionable intelligence to our clients. And a nationwide field force of active bloggers advance clients’ objectives and achieve measurable results.
…NetVocates then recruits activists and consumers who share the client’s views in order to reinforce those key messages on targeted blogs – and rebut misinformation when appropriate.
this was from their homepage. They shut it down and have a different site now. you guys heard of them?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:24 amMilitary Analyst: West Needs More Terror To Save Doomed Foreign Policy. Only attacks on scale of 9/11, 7/7 can bolster resolve according to war studies head:
The West needs more terror attacks on the scale of 9/11 and 7/7 in order to save a failing foreign policy, according to Lt.-Col. Doug Delaney, chair of the war studies program at the Royal Military College in Kingston, Ontario.
This alarming admission can be found right at the end of a long and academic Toronto Star article about the history of conflict and why the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq are doomed
The Star article discusses a new study which surmises that military invasions since World War 2 that require cooperation of the population of a country to succeed hold only a 17% chance of success.
In a paraphrased quote attributed to Delaney, he concludes that “The key to bolstering Western resolve is another terrorist attack like 9/11 or the London transit bombings of two years ago.”
“If nothing happens, it will be harder still to say this is necessary,” adds Delaney.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:25 am“Let the dogs bark Sancho, it’s a sign that we keep advancing†– Don Quijote de la Mancha
Comment by Juan C
True. And let’s face, those creeps are no where near as funny, and articulate, and informed, and intelligent, or tall and good-looking, or, or… as WE are!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:25 amthank you. I ws wondering if you and the other half had fallen victom to the thread here. I’m glad to see you have not. TP must get on the ball and register people. I think the only reason they don’t is because they will get less hits.
Comment by willyloman
That would make sense if they were selling banner ads, but they’re not. I suspect it’s a matter of inattention or a lack of expertise in one way or another. Since any “paid” staff at TP is likely getting minimum wage, their procedure seems to be: post it and let it go. I say, if you can’t run a blog the right way, why bother? Close it down, move on and no worries.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:25 amfshakir@americaprogress.org
July 14th, 2007 at 1:25 amYay, willy!!
Thanks.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:27 amComment by willyloman
Thanks. Noted. I hope your sales pick up.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:27 amWell, I gotta go eat. But first, I think I need to take a shower… and burn these clothes, and hose off the computer, and burn some incense…
July 14th, 2007 at 1:27 am“I ws wondering if you and the other half had fallen victom to the thread here.”
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 1:21 am
Like I said, Wayne had warned me. After he mentioned that some of our friends here (at least we like to believe that they’re our friends :D) were announcing that they were moving elsewhere, I decided to check out what was going on. As for Wayne, he’s been busy working on a new post for his blog. I previewed what he’s got so far, and, even if I weren’t married to him, I have to say it’s impressive. You’ll see (soon, I hope!)
July 14th, 2007 at 1:28 amThanks. Noted. I hope your sales pick up.
Comment by gummitch
Considering the alternative is a fast drive into a slow tree..so do I
July 14th, 2007 at 1:29 am“I know I sent it to trueblue, I’ll write her on facebook and ask her to post it next time she’s on TP.”
Comment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 1:24 am
If you haven’t done that already, can you also ask her to email it to me? She knows where. Thanks, Mistress Z!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:30 amWell, I gotta go eat. But first, I think I need to take a shower… and burn these clothes, and hose off the computer, and burn some incense…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Dont forget to sacrafice a chicken
July 14th, 2007 at 1:30 amOh, I was just reading the thread and I saw my name hijacked. Maybe I hurt sombedoy in the past with some opinion… mmm… good. :)
July 14th, 2007 at 1:30 amThe impersonator of the soldier looks like The Joker’s style. It appears Gerald Gibson Jr’s name was hijacked as well.
This sick bast*rd needs to be banned for life.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:30 amOh, thanks, willy!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:31 amThanks.
Comment by Zooey
I’ve got slips of paper on this desk that date back to the Reagan Administration
July 14th, 2007 at 1:32 amOh, and, BARTLEBEE. if you come around…thanks for noting!!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:32 amIf you haven’t done that already, can you also ask her to email it to me? She knows where. Thanks, Mistress Z!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
this? fshakir@americaprogress.org ?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:33 amWhite House: No specific terror threat against US:
Reuters | July 11, 2007
WASHINGTON, July 11 (Reuters) – The Bush administration said on Wednesday there was no specific, credible terrorism threat against the United States and denied that an emergency meeting had been called.
ABC News reported on Tuesday that the White House had called an urgent multi-agency session for Thursday to discuss a potential new al Qaeda threat on U.S. soil.
White House officials said it was a regularly scheduled meeting and not attended by the most senior national security officials.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:35 amalright. I got to take the dog out. I will check you out later. i will drop by the blog to see Wayne’s new stuff.
Night all.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:35 amBTW, folks… I just got back from the US. I was in Cleveland for 3 days and, I know, I tend to throw some shit around about the US now and then, (I could do the same or worse with my native country, of course), let me tell you that I was really really impressed with your country. People were extremely kind, supportive and diligent. So, that is in order to restore balance to my biased POV.
Of course, at the Congress I was participating I was able to throw around some sh*t about the attitude of compulsing consumption of Americans, and people were just nodding their heads. Impressive.
So sorry if I offended anyone of you.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:38 amSantorum clearly implies that terror attacks will occur inside America:
Over a month ago, Dennis Milligan, the chairman of the Arkansas Republican Party, sounded pretty excited about the prospect of domestic terrorism. “At the end of the day, I believe fully the president is doing the right thing, and I think all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on [Sept. 11, 2001], and the naysayers will come around very quickly to appreciate not only the commitment for President Bush, but the sacrifice that has been made by men and women to protect this country,†Milligan said.
Yesterday, Rick Santorum echoed a similar sentiment on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show.
Santorum went on to clearly imply that terror attacks will occur inside America which will alter the body politic and lead to a reversal of the anti-war sentiment now dominating the country.
“Between now and November, a lot of things are going to happen, and I believe that by this time next year, the American public’s going to have a very different view of this war, and it will be because, I think, of some unfortunate events, that like we’re seeing unfold in the UK. But I think the American public’s going to have a very different view,†said the former senator from Pennsylvania.
As Avedon put it, “Shouldn’t it concern us that Republicans are constantly talking about how people will all wise up when the next terrorist attack at home comes? I mean, they really seem to be looking forward to it, and they take great delight in the thought that, by God, people will see things differently when it happens.â€
Apparently. I simply cannot fathom such a twisted worldview. Americans will support Bush’s Iraq policy if we experience another 9/11-style attack? We’ll rally to a neocon vision of the world if thousands of innocents are slaughtered?
Does this make any sense at all?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:38 amOh, and, BARTLEBEE. if you come around…thanks for noting!!
Comment by Juan C
Sorry, noticing. is the word…I guess.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:41 amI got the chance to see CNN and I loved the way Michael Moore blasted Blitzer for being complicit of the IRaq´s occupation. That guy is a hero.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:44 amA tell all guide to troll-spoting
http://www.benfrank.net/disinfo/#top
hey juan. pass it on.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:47 amOf course, at the Congress I was participating…
Comment by Juan C — July 14, 2007 @ 1:38 am
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Juan, what do you do? / What Congress were you at?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:48 amHi Juan, nice to see you! :)
July 14th, 2007 at 1:49 amhey juan. pass it on.
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 1:47 am
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Now TRoS has no excuse for saying that every argument is a straw man!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:49 amZooey,
I know I posted above that I was leaving, but couldn’t do so without saying goodbye to you.
I have enjoyed every word you’ve written, even when it didn’t make a lick of sense.
Enjoy your stay here in Portland!
July 14th, 2007 at 1:50 amI just sent Faiz an email with the subject line, “Your blog is in the crapper.”
I asked him to ban anyone involved in the disgusting behavior above, and told him he’s lost several good regular commenters already. I’ll be gone after tonight, until the problem is solved.
I don’t want to be asociated with such a disgusting display of dishonoring the dead, and racism.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:53 amNorman Mineta Confirms That Dick Cheney Ordered Stand Down on 9/11:
Former Transportation Secretary Disputes 9/11 Commission Report Timetable for Dick Cheney and Reveals Lynn Cheney Was Also in PEOC Bunker Before Attack.
Former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta answered questions from members of 9/11 Truth Seattle.org about his testimony before the 9/11 Commission report.
Mineta says Vice President Cheney was “absolutely” already there when he arrived at approximately 9:25 a.m. in the PEOC (Presidential Emergency Operations Center) bunker on the morning of 9/11. Mineta seemed shocked to learn that the 9/11 Commission Report claimed Cheney had not arrived there until 9:58– after the Pentagon had been hit, a report that Mineta definitively contradicted.
Norman Mineta revealed that Lynn Cheney was also in the PEOC bunker already at the time of his arrival, along with a number of other staff.
Mineta is on video testifying before the 9/11 Commission, though it was omitted in their final report. He told Lee Hamilton:
“During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out….and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president “do the orders still stand?†And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?
Mineta confirmed his statements with reporters, saying “When I overheard something about ‘the orders still stand’ and so, what I thought of was that they had already made the decision to shoot something down.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-5PKQTUz5o
July 14th, 2007 at 1:54 amWhat Congress were you at?
Comment by Mr. President
Solar 2007. ASES. Everything´s fine.
Hi Juan, nice to see you! :)
Comment by Zooey
Same here, super Z. ;)
Thank you for writing me.
hey juan. pass it on.
Comment by willyloman
I will. Thanks.
Zooey,
July 14th, 2007 at 1:54 amI know I posted above that I was leaving, but couldn’t do so without saying goodbye to you.
Comment by Egreggious
Oy!!! :D
Enjoy your stay here in Portland!
Comment by Egreggious
I saw your comment above, saying goodbye. I am so very sorry about this horrific display. I hope to hear from Faiz quickly, and I’ll post any response from him.
I’ve enjoyed you being here, Egreggious. We’ve had a lot of fun, and your comments are always on target.
Check back now and then, ok?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:57 amComment by Zooey
When they started on Tired of Fighting; I was shocked. I mean how does that look for TP? It’s as if they want to make sure Soldiers don’t post on blogs like this. It was disgusting. I hope TP gets the measage this time.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:57 amComment by Egreggious
Not you too?
July 14th, 2007 at 1:59 amWhen they started on Tired of Fighting; I was shocked. I mean how does that look for TP? It’s as if they want to make sure Soldiers don’t post on blogs like this. It was disgusting. I hope TP gets the measage this time.
Comment by willyloman
I couldn’t even finish reading all of them before I had to write Faiz.
Arrrghggghhh! I just got my message back marked undeliverable! Is that the right email address, willy?
July 14th, 2007 at 2:02 amfshakir@americaprogress.org
this is the one that I sent mine too. I amy have miss typed it earlier.
Damn.
I sent a letter around 7:20 and it hasn’t come back, so I guess it’s good.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:05 amMaybe we will should make another walk-out. For about a week or so.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:05 amactually, it’s supposed to be —”at” americanprogress.org
July 14th, 2007 at 2:06 amI think you left out the “n.”
Let’s try this one:
fshakir@americanprogress.org
July 14th, 2007 at 2:06 amFShakir@americanprogress.org
July 14th, 2007 at 2:07 amNope. i just sent a test to the same address and it went through?
July 14th, 2007 at 2:07 amactually, it’s supposed to be —â€at†americanprogress.org
Comment by Mr. President
What do you think of your buddies’ activities today? Proud?
July 14th, 2007 at 2:07 amI haven’t gotten the re-sent message back — hopefully tat means it’s good. :)
July 14th, 2007 at 2:08 am:{ opps. :[ :{ ;{ :(
sorry please send the revised one to Jane for me, I don’t know here address.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:09 amComment by Egreggious
Oy!!! :D
Comment by Juan C
Settle. :)
July 14th, 2007 at 2:09 amGoodnight, Zooey & Willy.
I’m checking out C & L, but the comments there seem a bit stuffy.
I will check back from time to time to see if things have improved (and I’ll continue to read TP’s stories, just not the comments).
That Tired of Fighting mess was too cruel! I think Karl Rove himself may have been behind that one.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:10 amI just logged in and am completely blown away.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:12 amTP has lost some of its best commenters.
Way out of control. Ms Luna, you know where to find me.
TP admin, you have my email address, let me know when the site is fit for public consumption, if you ever figure out how to run a goddamn blog site.
What do you think of your buddies’ activities today? Proud?
Comment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 2:07 am
No.
Regardless of what you think, I would never mock a fallen US soldier, and, for what it’s worth, I would never harrass someone about substance abuse like Flaco.
I want registration more than anyone so that stuff like this doesn’t happen. Hopefully with everyone writing in something will be done, I’ve already sent Faiz about 15 emails, but I have given up.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:13 amYou can pobably leave the address as a comment at Wayne and Jane’s blog if you need to.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:13 am“i will drop by the blog to see Wayne’s new stuff.
Night all.”
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 1:35 am
He’s still working on it, really putting a lot of effort and research into it. It’s informational in more or less bite-size chunks, with the overall cumulative effect of a big picture. Sort of like a Suerat painting, with bigger dots. Or it could be a connect-the-dots puzzle. I don’t know, I’m tired, and we have to get up and do the second of our now-monthly “Bring the Troops Home” march in the village. Then we’ve got a ‘fambly’ thing in the afternoon. I need sleep…
July 14th, 2007 at 2:13 amEgreggious,
Not Karl Rove, just sick f*ck morons — Mr President’s friends. I’m sure he’s very proud to be associated with such trash.
Try AmericaBlog, last time I was there I saw a fair few old TP commenters. :)
Take care.
I’m outta here too. I’ll post any response I get from Faiz.
Goodnight all, until I see you again.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:14 amJane. the email address is listed above. I left off an n. sorry.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:15 amGoodnight Jane & willy.
We’ll meet back here when things are sorted out. Jane, I’ll post any reply I get from Faiz as a comment on your blog, and on facebook.
Take care, y’all. :)
July 14th, 2007 at 2:18 amGood night to all of you. What a beautiful post Tired left here, and what a horrible outcome from those small minded people. i will bump into you all again, I am sure. Blog-o-sphere can’t be that big. Just a series of tubes, right?
July 14th, 2007 at 2:18 amGoodnight, Zooey! Hope to see you soon.
Willy, thanks again for a job well done tonight. That was a heart-wrenching post deserved to be repeated again and again that got spat upon by disgusting excuses for human beings.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:22 amComment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 2:13 am
May I need to remind you the post that you were expressing a huge amount of satisfaction (you know, lots of exclamation marks) due to the bombing of 150 people in Iraq some days ago?
July 14th, 2007 at 2:35 amThe Genoveicies and the Gambinos shoot each other evey once in a while, but when their game is threatened.??????????? They all stick together.
SOUND FAMILIAR???
July 14th, 2007 at 2:56 am“What about having a filter that automagically nukes post…”
Comment by Troll Hater — July 13, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
I’d prefer having a filter that automatically nukes the trolls as well as the posts. Or automagically, sounds more interesting:D
July 14th, 2007 at 3:20 amHi, Jane,
July 14th, 2007 at 4:09 amThe last I looked Tracy Troll was still ranting on another thread that Wayne and I (but particularly I) called him “Chickenhawk” for his (”I didn’t want to be away from my wife and kids for an extended period of time”) excuse for not volunteering for this war he claims is so “noble.” He’s still trying to make me feel guilty for not going into the military in peacetime after high school, though he has no military record himself. This guy must be really mentally unbalanced if he can’t take being called “chickenhawk” on a blog by a woman he’s never even met. Really weird!
Have a good weekend.
Yes, Ignore the Trolls.
We need to remember that the greatest frustration that a troll feels is when they don’t get a rise out of people. These guys are checking back over and over waiting to see if anyone responded so that they can keep it going.
Free speech allows trolls to say what they will, and the internet gives them the power to broadcast to a wide audience. This upcoming election we need to remember not to give in to them. Every time they distract from the real discussion, they succeed.
Thoughtful people need to stay strong, and stay on topic.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:15 amWe must have mental competency exams now before allowing anyone to hold office at all.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:34 amThey shall only be fit if somewhat mentally disabled and out of touch with most real concerns.
They shall not be permitted to hold any type office when they in any way profit from killing.
GOP Senators Want New Party. GOP Senators Want Everyone to Forget the Last Seven Years. GOP Senators Want to Die.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:05 amCareful Perry Logan. FBI is here.
Why are there no news about Bob Allen (R)?
July 14th, 2007 at 8:06 amThe sane members of the GOP can’t run away from Bush fast enough.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
July 14th, 2007 at 8:10 amRepublicans always lose wars because they are pussies who want to line their pockets with war contracts. See Cheney. When it comes to fighting they have no balls.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:46 amAll of those hateful posts earlier were from The Joker. It’s his exact MO. Each sentence gets its own line. Always hate hate hate. No substance. Just a despicable human being.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:47 amThe Joker was threatening peoples lives yesterday.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:48 amComment by Perry Logan — July 14, 2007 @ 8:05 am
Just as the Dems want Americans to forget that they supported the war and ousting saddam.
Public opinion has changed rather abruptly. With the correct set of circumstances the winds of opinion change and could easily blow back the other way. The Muslims are fanatical enough to provide the catalyst for such a change. As much as I dislike Hillary at least she is smart enough to understand this and is trying to cover all her bases.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:50 amHey, troll. Why don’t you go back under your bridge? We don’t take kindly to your kind over here.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:53 amFirst of all, one of my posts in the exchange with those cretins bashing our soldiers was deleted, so TP cannot cry that they were somewhere else ignoring this. They let that garbage stay, but deleted my post just because I called someone an a s s h * l e.
Secondly, Mr. President WAS a participant. Look at the bolded italics posts that are IDENTICAL to his style that he used prolifically in the thread where he cried that he was namejacked. He also switches names, and his claim that he was conveniently ‘absent’ during the exchange, though present just moments before and again just moments after acting all self-righteous? What a freaking liar.
Thirdly, Crooks and Liars it is…
July 14th, 2007 at 9:00 amFirst of all, one of my posts in the exchange with those cretins bashing our soldiers was deleted, so TP cannot cry that they were somewhere else ignoring this. They let that garbage stay, but deleted my post just because I called someone an a s s h * l e.
Comment by Mr. Pee is the lamest troll ever
There is an auto filtration program that runs as part of the blog software, which will delete posts containing profanity and, we suspect, certain keywords.
I think TP doesn’t dedicate resources to administration, period.
At any rate, I’ve got to pack for a “camping” trip with a bunch of ancient friends up near Mt Rainier. With any luck, there won’t be a computer in sight.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:17 amThere is an auto filtration program that runs as part of the blog software, which will delete posts containing profanity and, we suspect, certain keywords.
I intentionally, to avoid the filter, spelled the word with spaces and a zero in place of the “o”… And it was up when I stopped posting 20 minutes later.
I think TP doesn’t dedicate resources to administration, period.
They do when it suits them. Weekends don’t seem to suit them as much.
At any rate, I’ve got to pack for a “camping†trip with a bunch of ancient friends up near Mt Rainier. With any luck, there won’t be a computer in sight.
Comment by gummitch — July 14, 2007 @ 9:17 am
I spent 2 rainy, cloud-shrouded days there a few years ago. The rain and the gloom cleared the morning of the third day (the day I was leaving) and I was amazed at how incredible the mountain is. Enjoy it.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:32 amTP,
Thank you for removing most of the disgusting comments from this thread.
Now….
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
July 14th, 2007 at 10:58 amI can tell you what I am going to do about it:
Go,
In peace.
I appreciate the compendium of news articles, but commenting on an open forum alongside people who continually violate the Terms of Agreement is neither enjoyable nor enlightening.
I’m already registered at dailykos. I’ll be checking out crooks and liars. Meanwhile, to my trusted friends, you will always be able to contact me.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:28 amThis thread is the final straw for even a loyalist like me. Until the irrelvant trolls are past tense, as much as it pains me, I have registered at Daily kos, and will be able to start posting there tomorrow.
I’ll be ‘the memory of Simone de Beauvoir’
Good luck guys…
July 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pmthanks for cleaning up this thread of most of the racist comments and the comments mocking a dead serviceman that died for this country.
While I have posted here for a long time and have stuck it out through the many issues we have had with the trolls, yesterday on this thread was the last straw. While I apreciate greatly the news and reports TP puts up to imform us, the comments have gotten to be unbearable most days.
The mocking of a dead serviceman and a serviceman posting a rememberance of his memory really got to me, where most other junk posted by these trolls I have ignored in the past.
Yesterday when I posted my resignation I was at a coffeeshop that I was playing at and was showing one of the audience members who is a National Guard member who just got orders to go to Iraq for his 2nd tour, this site to show him that this is a good place for news of what is really going on. The comments upset him greatly and me, personally I was beyond mad, I was livid.
The troll Gerald gibson and the hijack of Juan C. calling servicemen serving war criminals just tipped it off. As someone who has served and has family serving now, despite not agreeing with the policies, It with the mocking was just too much.
I notice the Mr. P and CT troll are still posting in the new thread and trying to disrupt it today, after many times posting bigotted posts and many violations of the terms. Even though Pee stated he had nothing to do with the stuff yesterday, I do not believe him because he has been too involved in trollish junk in the past.
I am also registered under my same name here, Wayne at dailykos, but I may not even post there for a while at this point. It is time for me to take a hiatus from the blog world for a while and just spend time enjoying my making music in my off times from work.
I will check back here eventually and if things are fixxed, I may even start posting again, but in the mean while Peace and good luck
Mitak Oyasin.
July 14th, 2007 at 1:34 pmF%ck RE-authorization. We need DE-authorization.
The War Is a Lie
July 14th, 2007 at 6:59 pmIt is pointless to seek a new war authorization. Our troops are already there. What Congressional republicans must do is to join democrats in setting a deadline to get all troops out by a certain date. The only contingency plan needed is one that tells us when combat forces will be coming home. The surge has failed. We can no longer win this war militarily. The only progress that can be made is diplomatic and political.
July 15th, 2007 at 12:21 am# 367 – Comment by Troll — July 14, 2007 @ 8:50 am
“Just as the Dems want Americans to forget that they supported the war and ousting saddam.”
Finally, a lying troll with the guts to PARTIALLY label him/herself for what s/he really is: a LYING TROLL! Well, s/he just admits to the Troll part!
Lying? Yes, LYING!
Lie #1: Dems want Americans to forget that they supported the war
Truth:
First, it isn’t a “war!” Read the enabling legislation, “war” is NOT mentioned.
Second, a minority of Democratic members of the House supported H.J.Res. 114. 132 Democratic members of the House OPPOSED the legislation. 23 Democratic members of the Senate OPPOSED that legislation. To hold the Democrats responsible for what the NeoCons did in overwhealmingly supporting the current corrupt, crooked president in his lying us into the invasion, occupation and destruction of Iraq is very Troll-like.
Lie #2: “…and ousting saddam”
Truth:
NOWHERE in the enabling legislation is “ousting saddam” mentioned as an objective.
PLEASE NOTE: This is NOT a defense of the MANY Democratic members of the House and Senate who voted AGAINST a majority of their Democratic constituents in order to join the NeoCons in their support of the current corrupt, crooked president and his chickhawk handlers. This is a defense of the TRUTH, which the trolls (and “Troll”) choose to ignore.
July 15th, 2007 at 8:32 amWhat is needed now from the Democratic members in the House is the passage of H.R. 1234 (To end the United States occupation of Iraq immediately), which would remove our troops from harm’s way out of the civil war in Iraq and would undo some of the destruction done in Iraq by our invasion and occupation.
It couldn’t get past a filibuster in the Senate, or get past a veto if it passed the Senate, but it would set the tone for the 2008 election.
The bill by Sens. Lugar and Warner (which is the topic of this thread) is BOGUS!
July 15th, 2007 at 8:42 am# 378 – (My) Comment by hterrya — July 15, 2007 @ 8:32 am
“First, it isn’t a “war!†Read the enabling legislation, “war†is NOT mentioned.”
I was wrong.
To be SURE about the statement, I went back to read every word of the bill. In the last paragraphs, the legislation refers to the War Powers Resolution (War Powers Resolution of 1973 – Public Law 93-148, 93rd Congress, H. J. Res. 542, November 7, 1973), which allows a president to act AS IF we were at war, if the requirements of Public Law 93-148 are met by the President.
I’m not sure if the current corrupt, crooked president has, in fact, met all of the requirements of the law (I doubt it), but saying that the word “war” does not appear in H. J. Res. 114, is WRONG.
The rest of my assertions in comment # 378 are CORRECT!
BTW: My assertions in comment # 379 are also CORRECT!
July 15th, 2007 at 10:57 am