Bush On Saddam: ‘That Motherf*cker Tried To Take Out My Dad’
Bush On Saddam: ‘That Motherf*cker Tried To Take Out My Dad’
President Bush attempted to convince the nation that Saddam Hussein had WMD as justification for invading Iraq in 2003. In Oct. 2002, for example, he stated, “If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today — and we do — does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons?”
But today on the progressive radio program The Cappy McGarr Show, host Cappy McGarr reveals through a conversation with former Sen. Majority Leader Tom Daschle that in private, Bush’s real motivation was a personal vendetta:
Of all the reasons used to justify this awful war, the one that stunned me the most…and will shock you…was the one I heard from a close friend of mine former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle. Senator Daschle was Majority Leader at the time.
The Senate and The House Leadership were meeting with President Bush for a weekly breakfast back then, and as our country was leading up to the Iraq war. … Bush got to talking about why we needed this war, and here’s what he said to Senator Daschle “We need to get Saddam Hussein…that Mother _______ tried to take out my Dad.”
Listen to the audio:
CLICK HERE TO LISTENBush’s feelings for Saddam have long been intensely personal. In 2002, he said to CNN, “Oh, yes, I hate Saddam Hussein. I don’t hate a lot of people. I don’t hate easily.” Six days later at a fundraiser in Texas, Bush said, “There’s no doubt he [Saddam] can’t stand us. After all, this is the guy that tried to kill my dad at one time.” Bush was referring to an “alleged plot by Iraqi intelligence to assassinate Bush’s father.”
It’s troubling that Bush believed he could use U.S. troops as personal hitmen to avenge a grudge.
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IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY NOW!
July 14th, 2007 at 2:42 pmAnd this is news?
Yet another reason for impeachment. And for a more reasoned case for impeachment, check out the excellent Bill Moyers roundtable on the subject. Crooks and Liars has the link at:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2007/ 07/ 14/ bill-moyers-roundtable-on-impeachment-of-bush-cheney/
July 14th, 2007 at 2:46 pmWhat else can I say?
July 14th, 2007 at 2:48 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=p…h?v=pGw3sMNTZ- c
When will people take a stand?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGw3sMNTZ-c
July 14th, 2007 at 2:49 pmThis is the kind of hearsay that cheapens our position in opposition to the war. This is little more than an urban legend. Bush’s motivation for war was his more complex than that, but mostly he has been the stooge of the neocons, used by them as point-man in their conquest of the middle east. Bush may have uttered that idiocy while posturing for media, but as far as motives go, he is more a symptom than a disease.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:50 pmweird… i’m listening to that radio show right now…
it must be a rebroadcast, on XM anyway…
never heard of the guy before…
the callers sound like the troolls here…
yeesh…
XM has done some shuffling on the progressive channel…
July 14th, 2007 at 2:50 pmit’s not just AirAmericaRadio anymore…
…
You can bet he and pappy Bush had a beautiful Bush family moment when they watched the video of Saddam executed together. They will screen it on the new ranch in paraguay when they flee with the booty they have stolen during Chimps term.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:54 pmTroubling? Wake up. The country is in the hands of madmen.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:55 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20070714/ ap_on_el_pr/ kucinich_edwards_debate
Kucinich rips Edwards on debate remarks
NEW YORK - An angry Dennis Kucinich lashed out at John Edwards on Friday, saying his Democratic rival showed “a consistent lack of integrity” by suggesting fewer candidates should participate in presidential forums and then trying to explain his remark to reporters.
Edwards? Integrity? Kucinich got something right!
July 14th, 2007 at 2:55 pmI completely agree with SheaNC.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:56 pmWell, Bush is myopic. His whole worldview doesn’t go beyond family & friends. That’s why he seems likeable but is totally unsuited to the job of president.
As for impeachment, I don’t see any reason to be beating up Pelosi & Reid over this. That’s “preaching to the choir”. The fact is there is no hope of actually removing Bush or Cheney by impeachment at the moment; the Republican votes simply aren’t there.
And that’s just it. The Democratic rank & file have become as polarized as the Republicans. Well, that’s not how democracy works. It requires 67 senators to convict. It’s not a question of Democratic willpower, but of Republican disgust. If progressive liberals want Cheney and Bush impeached, they need to work on the Republicans who have been most critical of the White House. And an impeachment of Cheney might be possible now and an impeachment of Bush in the fall.
But stop devouring yourselves. It’s a bipartisan thing. And don’t forget that.
July 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pmComment by Tavern Guy — July 14, 2007 @ 2:46 pm
I did see Bill Moyers roundtable and immmediately thereafter wrote to my representative asking for action.
Don’t know if it does any good to write these Defeatocrats, but thought it couldn’t hurt.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:00 pm‘That Motherf*cker Tried To Take Out My Dad’
Well, then when is Castro going to hang GWB?
July 14th, 2007 at 3:07 pm“I don’t hate a lot of people. I don’t hate easily.â€
July 14th, 2007 at 3:07 pm* * *
He’s incapable of telling the truth even to himself.
He could have done that anytime after the election. One well placed bullet could have taken care of that issue. Think he’d have worried about world opinion or Congress? No, this always about invasion and occupation to steal Iraq’s $100TT for Big Oil. All other reasons are BS.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:08 pmWWJD Mr George W Wuss. MFer? It sounds very good coming from a Christian’s mouth like yours.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:08 pmYes it is good to remind Americans why we invaded Iraq and the lies Bush told to get us there. Americans don’t mind letting thousands of soldiers die because Bush hates Saddam. The visits with the dead soldiers families must be interesting when Bush tells them thanks for giving you child up to die because Saddam tried to kill my Daddy. When you go in to something with a lie it never works. If Bush was so worried about how his Daddy feels he should try acting like a man and not a baby so his Daddy can stop crying of all the mess he’s making. Prescott Bush would disown George W. and Jeb as losers and weak/cowards.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:10 pmSo if Dashal heard this prior to the war, why didn’t he do something about it? I’m a Democrat, but good God whay don’t they collectively grow a set?
July 14th, 2007 at 3:10 pmBush On Saddam: ‘That Motherf*cker Tried To Take Out My Dad’
Well you got him back good, didn’t ya?!?!?!
July 14th, 2007 at 3:12 pmGreat Job, Sir!!!
May President Bush and Vice President Cheney continue to advance the American agenda throughout the entire world!!!!!!
#2 Comment by Tavern Guy
Yeah, I got kicked off of there earlier today.
I’m KONSERVO!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 3:14 pmThe immature little boy troll Mr. President continues to stink up the place. Your immaturity was hanging out for everyone to see last evening, Mr. President. It would be nice if only adults were allowed to post here.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:15 pmThis is the kind of hearsay that cheapens our position in opposition to the war. This is little more than an urban legend. Bush’s motivation for war was his more complex than that, but mostly he has been the stooge of the neocons, used by them as point-man in their conquest of the middle east. Bush may have uttered that idiocy while posturing for media, but as far as motives go, he is more a symptom than a disease.
Comment by SheaNC — July 14, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
If the Shrub uttered it at all, THAT cheapened HIS position for the war. Regardless of his “more complex” motivation, he shouldn’t have said it at all. (It falls right in with Ronnie’s “outlawing the Soviet Union; we begin bombing in 5 minutes” spiel as something frightening, but widely ignored.) The point is, EVEN if he said it jokingly (as he did when he looked for MWDs in the Oval Office), it should have been a wake-up call to the SCLM that the man was dangerous.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:16 pmComment by m12 — July 14, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
“Kucinich’s comments came after Edwards and Hillary Rodham Clinton were overheard Thursday discussing the possibility of limiting the number of participants in future presidential forums.”
That’s kind of shitty of Clinton and Edwards, how are they going to act in the White House if, by some freak accident, one of them is elected?
Thanks for the post, m12.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:18 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20070713/ ap_on_re_us/ congress_ap_poll
The Democrats in Congress have lower approval than the President!
The 24 percent approval rating for Congress matched its previous low, which came in June 2006, five months before Democrats won control of the House and Senate due to public discontent with the job Republicans were doing.
Bush’s marks on his handling of the economy and domestic issues like health care, education and the environment, held steady, at 37 percent on the economy
On handling of foreign policy, including terrorism, 38 percent approved, compared with 35 percent last month.
On handling the Iraq war, 31 percent approved, compared with 28 percent last month.
Tides are a changing!
July 14th, 2007 at 3:20 pmSo if Dashal heard this prior to the war, why didn’t he do something about it?
i believe he did… i know i heard this story then…
but, DASCHLE paid for his revelation… that’s how thune got his job…
I’m a Democrat, but good God whay don’t they collectively grow a set?
Comment by Mr. Reason — July 14, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
REAL dems don’t have to say so…
July 14th, 2007 at 3:21 pm…
Great!!
July 14th, 2007 at 3:23 pmA moron president with a grudge…
influenced by Cheney (Halliburton)…
and a group of high-ranking (mostly)neocon Jews…
Scooter Libby
Paul Wolfowitz
Richard Perle
Douglas Feith
William Krystol
Frederick Kagan (surge document creator)
Henry Kissinger
Elliott Abrams
Joshua Bolten
John Bolton
Michael Chertoff,etc.
“It’s troubling that Bush believed he could use U.S. troops as personal hitmen to avenge a grudge”.
Not quite. It’s “troubling” when a psychiatric patient believes he’s Napoleon. Bush, on the other hand, is a sick, twisted SOB. And those who continue to support him are little better.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:25 pmIs he sure that’s his Dad?
July 14th, 2007 at 3:28 pmm12,
If Congress condemns the war and the President, but We the people condemn Congress… doesn’t that mean that We the people SUPPORT the war and the President?!?!
July 14th, 2007 at 3:29 pmBy reporting old news like this as if it were worth considering seriously is one of the reasons you have idiots like bush in the first place. You are, as it were, ‘feeding a troll’. As Atrios says ‘dont feed the trolls‘
July 14th, 2007 at 3:29 pm$443 BILLION and 3600+ dead GIs to satisfy Bush’s twisted ego.
What a sick, subhuman shitstain that man is.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:29 pmWhat does that say about Daschle? Knowing there was no justification for Iraq and backing the idiot anyway. The repugnacans are morally bankrupt.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:32 pmI heard this back then, too. It isn’t news. But it does illustrate that the Repubies were shopping around for any and every rationale to go into Iraq.
Lies and vendettas, greed and exploitation-this is the government we the people have allowed to reign. It is a tumor on our republic, which, through benign neglect, we have allowed to fester into a full-grown cancer. It requires radical treatment. IMPEACH NOW!
If we can’t remove this cancer by the proscribed treatment, we will have to employ something, anything, to restore the health of the nation. People blog, write and call their reps, but unless we take to the streets, will anyone in power care?
July 14th, 2007 at 3:34 pmI came here to post this and was shocked to see it already posted several times. Wow. Must be because it is the best thing we have seen in 7 years. Everyone, do your part.
PBS Bill Moyers’ Journal: Impeachment Panel Excerpt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/ discuss/ duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385×40850
July 14th, 2007 at 3:40 pmCan you even believe this sicko???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/ discuss/ duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385×40796
Press: “It’s 130 degrees for our US troops too, A$$HOLE.â€
Baghdad Snowjob: “Uuuuuuuuhhhhh– Duuuuuuuuuuuuh– right, you got me. I am a trick and a whore, and a traitor to my country’s ‘boots on the ground’.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:41 pmis this art imitating reality or the other way around via dave chappell
July 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pmWould one of you video makers out there please put together a side by side series of Baghdad Snowjob’s casual and ‘light-hearted’ demeanor when discussing Iraq, with footage of our troops in the heat of battle, death and destruction? Please…………..This guy has to go down. He needs to be impeached outright.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pmComment by m12 — July 14, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
Excellent.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pmsorry to report… just heard on that “Cappy McGarr Show”
(has ANYone ever heard of this guy???)
(and WHERE is he broadcasting from?) -
he is interviewing harry reid… who says he doesn’t even want
to talk about IMPEACHMENT… it is off the table, he says…
so much to do, so little time…
ugh…
July 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI think two thoughts influenced George W. to Invade Iraq.
1. His father was WRONG not to march on Baghdad in 1991, and FINISH the Job.
2. Saddam would be easy to topple, and the Iraqis would turn their LIBERATION into a pro-American middle eastern democracy.
Many foreign policy experts, even Cheney himself, argued persuasively AGAINST marching on Baghdad in 1991.George H.W. Bush double crossed the Shiite’s and Kurds for fear of a pro-Iranian Shiite takeover after Desert Storm.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:52 pmGeorge W. was influenced by the Iraqi Exiles, including Ahmed Chalibi. He was probably an Iranian double agent. Iran’s power and influence over Iraq has blossomed .
Hindsight is 20/20 but Bush’s naivite’ and incompetence are staggering.
May President Bush and Vice President Cheney continue to advance the American agenda throughout the entire world!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Clearly, you think you’re cute and funny, but all you do is reveal your ignorance w/ comments like this.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:55 pmWell thatmf, took out thousands of Iraqi dads and thousands of American sons and daughters.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:56 pmm12,
If Congress condemns the war and the President, but We the people condemn Congress… doesn’t that mean that We the people SUPPORT the war and the President?!?!
Comment by Mr. President
Actually, all this really means is that a few select posters, such as yourself, continue to make fools of themselves on a wholesale basis.
Deluded, incoherent, and irrational. NEXT!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 3:57 pmBush’s naivite’ and incompetence are staggering.
Comment by Badger
“Naivite’” isn’t quite the right word, Badger. Try “Butt stupidity”.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:58 pmTides are a changing!
Comment by m12
Indeed!!! Stomachs are turning, toilets are flushing! It’s a new day for Repubs everywhere, THAT IS, UNTIL THE NEXT ONE GETS BUSTED FOR OFFERING TO S*CK A COP’S D*CK FOR $20!
NEXT!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm1. His father was WRONG not to march on Baghdad in 1991, and FINISH the Job.
His father was WRONG to start the First Gulf War on the lie that divisions of tanks were positioned to invade Saudi Arabia, a claim disproven by commercial sattelite photography and exposed by the St. Petersburg times (to no fanfare).
Bush GAVE Saddam the go-ahead to invade Kuwait through his ambassador, by saying we had no position on how the two settled their dispute over Kuwait’s slant-drilling into Iraqi fields. Then Bush stabbed his old client Saddam in the back by lying the world into war with Saddam. No wonder Saddam wanted revenge; he had been personally betrayed by daddy Bush. Junior has no cause for complaint.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm“Great!!
A moron president with a grudge…
influenced by Cheney (Halliburton)…
and a group of high-ranking (mostly)neocon Jews…
Scooter Libby
Paul Wolfowitz
Richard Perle
Douglas Feith
William Krystol
Frederick Kagan (surge document creator)
Henry Kissinger
Elliott Abrams
Joshua Bolten
John Bolton
Michael Chertoff,etc.
Comment by eddiejoe — July 14, 2007 @ 3:23 pm”
A “moron president” who has outwitted you anti-semitic libs at every turn! Ain’t it cool!
Regardless of all your screaming and hollering, all you can do is hope that someday, somehow, your Democratic congress will have the “huevos” to do something about it.
Doesn’t look like it’s going to happen during this election cycle, does it?
Harry Reid on the “Cappy McGarr Show”? Reid’s lost all credibility, the big radio boys won’t let him play anymore. Impeachment is off the table? Yup. Just as I have said all along. The Democrats in congress know that they will have their butts handed to them if they ever tried anything like that. Sorry folks. Must be another bad day for you Bush haters. Oy Vey!
July 14th, 2007 at 4:07 pmDonny Rumsfeld shook Saddam’s hand, Reagun recruited him as an ally and looked the other way while he was doing all the horrible things that get conservatards so peeved today. Iran was a democratic republic in 1953 when the CIA overturned it and gave them the Shah instead, which led to the Ayatollah. Look closer, and the republican record in the Middle East is pure failure, pure sh*tty blowback.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:09 pmI was watching old clips of the Dave Chapelle show last night and saw his “Black Bush” skit from 2004 in which he explained the reason for war. Chappell’s Bush first offered regime change as a reason but then asked “you want me to be real about it? He tried to kill my father … That *** tried to kill my father!!” (http://www.ifilm.com/video/2795970). Chapell’s point was to show how outrageous it would have been for Bush to publicly state his real motives, and implied that we would never have gone to war if he had done so.
Again, Bush proves that you parody bad form. He actually did say this stuff. Where was Dachle in publicizing this idiocy at the time?
July 14th, 2007 at 4:10 pmknow retaliated against those who tried to assassinate Bush Sr? Bill Clinton… still hate him? probably…
if this doesn’t sound like Bush launched this costly war as a personal vendetta, I don’t know what does!
July 14th, 2007 at 4:10 pmOh, and thanks, H.W., for a president so lame he can’t even eat a f*cking pretzel. So stupid he can kill 650,000 people for a lie and then lecture the people about the “sanctity of life”.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pmGeorge H.W. Bush did three things differently than his errant son.
!. He got a Big coalition of allies to fight and PAY FOR Desert Storm. (even Syria). World opinion was mostly with us.
2. He used OVERWHELMING FORCE, as per the Powell Doctrine.
3. He had a defined Mission..to throw Saddam out of Kuwait.
And the biggest difference of all…He Was Successfull.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:14 pmSorry folks. Must be another bad day for you Bush haters. Oy Vey!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 14, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
___________________________________________________
See how respectful O. Bigfoot is being?!?! What a stand up guy!
Thanks O. Bigfoot, for defending our great President George W. Bush! And for doing so with more class then that Leftist deserved.
God Bless America.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:18 pmYou mean “Bush hater” is an insult? LOL!
July 14th, 2007 at 4:21 pmForeign policy via petty personal vendetta. Welcome to Bushworld.
-GSD
July 14th, 2007 at 4:24 pmTHAT IS, UNTIL THE NEXT ONE GETS BUSTED FOR OFFERING TO S*CK A COP’S D*CK FOR $20!
OR some CRACK!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 4:32 pmYes, it’s “troubling” to think that Bush would use our troops and treasure for revenge. But that’s exactly what he did. We all have to bear any burden and pay any price for the revenge of a sociopath who tricked his way to the job of President. The jail for the cronies that enabled him might just fit in the Hague’s jails. Let’s find out.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:34 pmI have the democrats’ campaign slogan:
Got Osama?
Then slow-morph repub candidates faces into Bush.
This stuff almost writes itself…
July 14th, 2007 at 4:35 pmBush is a great example of Christian Values and all should follow his lead. No wonder the GOP is using Prostitutes and Pastors are having sex with men. We have new Christian Values in the United States and the Churches are getting paid big Bucks to support these guys. Karl Rove used Religion to fool the voters now it looks like Christians have a new definition of the word Christian Values. I’ll stick with God’s teaching and leave the rest of you to go with the new American Christian values set by the Bush Administration.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:42 pmGeorge W. attacked Afghanistan and toppled the Taliban. The world was behind him. I was behind him. His rationale: we can’t let Al Qaeda have free reign to train their minions .
July 14th, 2007 at 4:51 pmSo what is the deal with Pakistan.? Isn’t al Qaeda free to operate their Jihadi training camps just over the Border??? Are they with us or against us?? Pakistan is a nuclear power, and an islamic takeover is definitely possible. Carefull diplomacy is called for.
I just can’t understand why the press isn’t concerned with the contradictions in Bush’s foreign policy.
Invade Iraq where there was no evidence of ISLAMIC terrorists and no acts of terrorism…creating a Jihadi university training facility.
Turn a blind eye to Pakistan’s wild west…where al Zawahiri is free to be on TV.
Comment by Badger — July 14, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Strategy m’boy, strategy!
July 14th, 2007 at 4:53 pmThere’s some good hate in this thread, but it looks like the liberals really don’t know how to do it properly.
“Indeed, to hate and hate well is a difficult task. The object of rancor must be chosen with a sharp eye for deep and complex flaws, to fuel your burning abhorrence. And one must be absolutely certain that the object of ire is indeed deserving; much scorn is misdirected, and hence wasted.” -James Ellroy
You aren’t concentrating, people!
July 14th, 2007 at 4:56 pmComment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
What strategy.?? The only strategy I can see is to keep al Zawahiri’s face on TV to scare Americans into voting for Republicans.
July 14th, 2007 at 4:57 pm‘That Motherf*cker Tried To Take Out My Dad’
I can’t say what I’m thinking. They would ban me.
July 14th, 2007 at 5:03 pm“Bush On Saddam: ‘That Motherf*cker Tried To Take Out My Dad’”
Now there’s a headline! Gay sex, incest and unrequited desire. The only thing lacking is Barbara’s “boys will be boys” non-denials…
July 14th, 2007 at 5:06 pmI am not shocked that Bush would feel this way. However, the real shame is the fact the Daschle would not contest the move to war when faced with the admission of this personal motivation. At the time there was clearly no justification for going to war, and the publication of this rationale on the part of Bush would have further illuminated the false premise fo the march to war.
July 14th, 2007 at 5:06 pmYou aren’t concentrating, people!
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’ — July 14, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
you know, speaking for myself, now…
July 14th, 2007 at 5:07 pmi’m just too old (and impatient) to act coy and play guessing games…
the situation is dire enough - i think you should come out with it,
and offer up YOUR train of thought, your solution!
please…
m12: When you mention the descending poll numbers, you realize that the numbers are dropping because of the people’s sheer outrage against this President and the GOP. The numbers are dropping because this administration still remain in office and not behind bars. The outrage is also, incidentally, directed at YOUR half of the Congress comprised of Republicans. So, when you shout with glee about the horrendously low numbers the congress is receiving right now, have you ever stopped to ask yourself “why”?? It’s because the people want this corrupt, foul government of ours to be impeached, that’s why and it hasn’t happened. Until they begin making movement in the impeachment direction, the numbers will continue to drop. So, how, in your twisted, handicapped little pea brain can you revel in these numbers when you realize the reason behind them? I’d say it’s rather stupid of you to do so but I guess when one is ignorant they are clueless when they are outing themselves. What a shame for you that you can’t see what a total jackass you’re making out of yourself in gleefully discussing the numbers which, reflexively, reflect right back on your demented GOP and President. Go figure!
July 14th, 2007 at 5:15 pmLook closer, and the republican record in the Middle East is pure failure, pure sh*tty blowback.
Comment by marlow
The Reichwing trolls who come here can’t afford to do that, marlow. if they actually tired to acknowledge “the facts”, their pointy little heads would implode immediately.
July 14th, 2007 at 5:16 pmAs for the comment highlighted in this thread regarding Bush’s utilization of our military to satisfy a family “grudge”, does that surprise anyone. He’s used politics to contaminate every department and office in this government so why not this?
Besides, Junior doesn’t have the spine or guts to engage in a grudge match with an ant - we all know that. It’s Bush 41 who has been behind all of it right from the outset, using his little Shrub, as always, as his little, impotent “puppet”. That’s clear.
July 14th, 2007 at 5:18 pmWTF?? Is this thread about Pakistan, Afghanistan and the entire Middle East???? Evidently, the idiot trolls here are now inventing their own threads? Very interesting.
July 14th, 2007 at 5:20 pmThat’s why Jr’s nickname in grade school was “Pissant”.
July 14th, 2007 at 5:20 pmThis is just one possibility though,
Comment by Mr. President
Holy Shi-ite!!! Talk about deluded… this one is totally ready for an intervention. He’s gone from huffing glue to mainlining stupidity. Ah yes, the sweet big “S”… only drug bettr is pure, uncut “denial”…
July 14th, 2007 at 5:27 pmIt’s Bush 41 who has been behind all of it right from the outset, using his little Shrub, as always, as his little, impotent “puppetâ€. That’s clear.
Comment by isis11
That’s not true, isis11. Duh-bya is Cheney’s hand puppet.
July 14th, 2007 at 5:28 pmBush hates his daddy anyway, like most psychopaths do. He’s just insanely jealous that Saddam alomost got him literally turning him into a martyr of sorts before he could kill him figuratively. Sound crazy? Hell yes!
July 14th, 2007 at 5:33 pmSTOP TALKING AND START IMPEACHING! EYES ON THE PRIZE: IT’S OIL AND THE CONTROL OF THE MIDDLE EAST IS WHY WE ARE IN IRAQ. BUSH DON’T EVEN LIKE BUSH SR. IMPEACH!
July 14th, 2007 at 5:34 pmI’m no defender of the President, but this is non-news.
The article states that he said ‘guy’, not MF’er.
July 14th, 2007 at 5:39 pmBut because McGarr SAYS that Daschle SAID…..C’mon, any other day of the week, that’s called hearsay.
C’mon, any other day of the week, that’s called hearsay.
Comment by President Bush — July 14, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
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Oh yeah. Thanks me!!!!
I would like to make a statement now: “What I said… heh heh…”
July 14th, 2007 at 5:45 pmI would like to make a statement now: “What I said… heh heh…â€
Comment by Mr. President
Congrats, Mr P. For once your statement is accurate. That is indeed hearsay. If Mr Daschle comes forward and confirms it, it is no longer hearsay. If Mr Daschle did indeed hear Herr Brusch speak these words, he shudda come forward a LOOOONG time ago and spoken up, much like Colin Powell recently did. Quite frankly this mess is the ultimate Clusterf*ck from Hell…
July 14th, 2007 at 5:56 pmgood thing this is coming out five motherf*cking years too late.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:00 pmTo JosephW from comment 22: you’re right about that, and I agree with you. If he made that statement, it was definitely a red flag.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:13 pmTo JosephW from comment 22: you’re right about that, and I agree with you. If he made that statement, it was definitely a red flag.
Comment by SheaNC
Yep….
July 14th, 2007 at 6:24 pmSo, Bush Jr.’s desire for revenge against Saddam Hussein led to him unilaterally trying to assassinate Saddam Hussein in a March 2003 missile strike and the subsequent invasion of Iraq by us, which has led to countless revenge killings of Iraqis by Iraqis between Iraqis and even the revenge killing of many of our soldiers supposedly in Iraq to establish democracy and the “rule of law”?
Sounds kind of insane to me.
But in keeping with the revenge theme of the entire Bush administration, then it is time for patriotic American citizens to exact political and moral revenge on two of the stupidest and most downright mean individuals ever to stink up the executive branch of our government and IMPEACH George W. Bush and Dick Cheney NOW.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:42 pmhttp://www.pbs.org/ moyers/ journal/ video_popups/ pop_vid_impeachment1-1.html
discussion on Impeachment. Bruce Fein and John Nichols. Fein is from AEI and Supports Impeachment, as does the Nations Nichols.
The time has come for Impeachment
July 14th, 2007 at 6:44 pmComment by President Bush — July 14, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
That was my comment. I used the President Bush moniker for a joke yesterday AM, and when I posted this comment, I used the same computer and the moniker remained…unintentionally.
I have, however, left the link so that anyone (such as Mr. P yesterday) caring to know, would see that I wasn’t attempting to be deceptive, so much as clever.
The comment on THIS thread as ‘President Bush’ was unintentional.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:49 pmLet’s see…What has been the fate of those whose actions have not pleased the Fascist Reich?
1 — John F. Kennedy — Murdered on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, TX
2 — Martin Luther King, Jr. — Prominent Baptist minister and civil rights leader. The youngest person ever to win the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964. On April 4, 1968, King was assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee.
3 — Robert F. Kennedy — Murdered on June 6, 1968 in Los Angeles, CA — moments after claiming victory in the California Democratic primary in his efforts to obtain the nomination to run for President.
4 — Former Democratic representative and House Majority Leader Hale Boggs. He was best known as one of the seven members of the Warren Commission, which investigated the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The commission found that Lee Harvey Oswald was acting alone when he killed the president. Boggs, it turns out, had “strong doubts” that Oswald acted alone, but went along with the commission findings. Later, in 1971 and 1972, he went public with his doubts. He was presumed dead after the small plane carrying him and Democratic Representative Nicholas Begich disappeared on October 16, 1972.
5 — Democratic Representative Jerry Litton (MO), whose plane crashed the night he won the Democratic nomination for U. S. Senate in 1976, killing him and his entire family. His Republican opponent ultimately captured the seat from his successor in November of 1976. Died — August 3, 1976
6 — Texas Democratic Representative Mickey Leland also died in a plane crash. The six-term member of Congress and outspoken advocate of sanctions against the apartheid government of South Africa, was also a spokesman for the hungry and poor. He represented the Texas 18th District, was a Democrat and was chair of the Congressional Black Caucus. He died along with 15 others in a plane crash in Gambela, Ethiopia on August 7, 1989.
7 — John Heinz (Teresa Heinz Kerry’s first husband) — A liberal Republican senator from Pennsylvania who entered office as an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War, and later emerged as a strong proponent of health care, social services, public transportation and the environment. He also urged reconciliation with Cuba. He died when the landing gear on his small plane failed to function, and a helicopter dispatched to survey the problem crashed into his plane. Died — April 4, 1991
8 — One former senator, John Tower, also died in a small plane crash. Tower was best known as the chair of the Tower Commission, which investigated the Reagan/Bush era Iran/Contra scandal. Died — April 5, 1991
9 — Another American politician to die overseas in a plane crash was the Clinton administration’s Commerce Secretary, Ronald Brown, whose plane went down in the Balkans. The African American was considered a rising star in the Democratic Party, and had been the chairman of the Democratic National Committee in 1989. There was considerable controversy regarding the cause of this crash. Died — April 3, 1996
10 — John F. Kennedy, Jr. — On July 16, 1999, at the age of 38, John F. Kennedy Jr. was killed along with his wife and his sister-in-law, Lauren Bessette, when the aircraft he was piloting, N9253N, a Piper Saratoga II HP, crashed on a hazy night into the Atlantic Ocean en route from Essex County Airport in Fairfield Township, Essex County, New Jersey, to Martha’s Vineyard, where the Kennedy family has a vacation house. Kennedy and his wife were traveling to the wedding of cousin Rory Kennedy, which was then postponed. Lauren was to have been dropped off at Martha’s Vineyard. He spoke at the 1988 Democratic National Convention in Atlanta. He was a New York City assistant district attorney from 1989 to 1993. In 1995, he founded George, a glossy politics-as-lifestyle monthly which sometimes took editorial aim even at members of his own family. The magazine ceased publication shortly after Kennedy’s death. The circumstances around this crash are also the subject of considerable controversy. He did exert considerable influence on the national politial scene, and had he decided to run for political office, would arguably have been an attractive candidate.
11 — Governor Mel Carnahan (D) — Ran against John Ashcroft for the Missouri Senate seat in 2000, when it was anybody’s guess as to which party would enjoy majority status in the U. S. Senate. Late on October 16, 2000, just three weeks before the election and the night before a presidential debate to be held in St. Louis at Washington University, a twin-engine Cessna airplane piloted by the Governor’s son Randy Carnahan, crashed on a heavily forested hillside near Goldman, Missouri, about 35 miles south of St. Louis. All three occupants of the plane — Governor Carnahan, his son Randy, and Chris Sifford, campaign advisor and former chief of staff to the governor — died in the crash. His widow, Jean Carnahan, ran in his stead and defeated Ashcroft, who was named Attorney General by the Bush Administration. Died — October 16, 2000
12 — Paul Wellstone - Again, the U.S. Senate was evenly balanced and Wellstone was running a strong race in Minnesota for re-election, despite his pronounced progressive tendencies. Wellstone was a liberal and a leading spokesman for the progressive wing of the national Democratic Party. He served in the Senate from 1991 until his death in a plane crash on 25 October 2002, in the 102nd, 103rd, 104th, 105th, 106th, and 107th congresses. His wife, Sheila, and daughter, Marcia, also died in the crash. On October 25, 2002, Wellstone died, along with seven others, in a plane crash in northern Minnesota, at approximately 10:22 a.m. He was 58. The other victims were his wife, Sheila, one of his three children, Marcia, the two pilots, and campaign staffers Will McLaughlin, Tom Lapic and Mary McEvoy. The plane was en route to Eveleth, where Wellstone was to attend the funeral of Martin Rukavina, a steelworker whose son Tom Rukavina served in the Minnesota House of Representatives. Wellstone decided to go to the funeral instead of a rally and fundraiser in Minneapolis attended by Mondale and fellow Senator Ted Kennedy. He was to debate Norm Coleman in Duluth, Minnesota that same night. Minnesota law required that his name be struck from the ballot, to be replaced by a candidate chosen by the party. The replacement candidate was former Vice President Walter Mondale, who accepted the nomination and later lost the election to Republican Norm Coleman. Norm Coleman currently represents Minnesota in the U. S. Senate.
During the aftermath of 9/11, when the Bush Administration went to great lengths to advocate swift passage of the Patriot Act, then Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D) of South Dakota expressed misgivings about the quick passage of this act. When Senator Jim Jeffords of Vermont announced in May 2001 that he was leaving the Republican caucus to become an independent and would caucus with the Democrats, this returned control of the body to the Democrats and Daschle again became Majority Leader. In October 2001, Daschle’s office received a letter containing anthrax, becoming a target of the 2001 anthrax attacks. Many of his staffers were confirmed to have been exposed, as well as several of Sen. Russell Feingold’s staffers.
Then Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Patrick Leahy (D-VT) was the chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee and was ostensibly in a position to ask questions about the Patriot Act before supporting its passage. Leahy was the only other member of the United States Congress to be targeted by the 2001 anthrax attacks. The anthrax letter meant for him was intercepted before it reached his office.
With regard to Daschle and Leahy, their opposition to the Patriot Act apparently vanished after the anthrax attacks. The investigation to find the perpetrator(s) has apparently gone cold.
The lone exception that I could find to the examples described above was the following incident:
1 — Richard Dudley (Dick) Obenshain (1936 – August 2, 1978) was an attorney in southwest Virginia and rising conservative political leader in the Republican Party of Virginia until his death in the crash of a small airplane in 1978. In the summer of 1978, Obenshain won his party’s nomination to run for the U.S. Senate to replace retiring U.S. Senator William L. Scott. On the night of August 2, the small twin-engine Piper PA34 airplane carrying him home from a campaign appearance crashed in trees while attempting a night-time landing at the Chesterfield County Airport, a general aviation facility near Richmond. Killed along with the 42-year-old candidate were a pilot and a flight instructor. He was replaced by former Secretary of the Navy, and then husband of actress Elizabeth Taylor, John Warner, who prevailed in the election that fall and continues to represent the State of Virginia in the U. S. Senate.
Unless there are other examples that I’ve overlooked, it appears that 13 individuals (two in the Boggs crash) representing a progressive agenda died, and one representing the conservative agenda died. The figure of 13 does not take into consideration the targeting of Daschle and Leahy with the anthrax letters. If you were to flip a coin, hoping for heads, and during 13 of 14 tries, succeeded, one might wonder if it was a trick coin. Assuming a 1 in 2 chance of obtaining heads during each toss, the odds of obtaining heads even ten times in succession is 1 in 1024.
Please feel free to draw your own conclusions.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:54 pmRe: Post #86 — Much of the information cited in this post was found on the wikipedia website. It is truly a valuable resource.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:56 pmThe comment on THIS thread as ‘President Bush’ was unintentional.
Comment by SGT Higgins
yeah, and truthfully, that was hearsay, which doesn’t do anyone any good. If Daschle did hear Herr Bru$ch say that, he really should have spoken up.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:58 pmThat was obvious when he killed All the male children of Saddam.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:06 pmIf Daschle did hear Herr Bru$ch say that, he really should have spoken up.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Yeah, I agree. Now it’s a he said/she said thing. However, I hope a reporter somewhere asks Daschle point blank the next time he’s got a mic in front of his face. “Hey Tom? McGarr says you said…..is it true?”
Simple. Comfirm or Deny.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:07 pmSimple. Comfirm or Deny.
Comment by SGT Higgins
If only that moment would come, w/ recording media ready and running…
July 14th, 2007 at 7:39 pmThat figures from the President who thinks with petty thoughts!!!
What a dumbass!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:43 pmidiot,
imbecile-
moron.
SCUM
July 14th, 2007 at 7:44 pmlike the shit- for brains who “elected” him and uncle dick, twice, sort- of.
It’s obvious it was a BIG reason. Anyone can see through that. But there were other reasons, too, that were less personal — like Bush really believed that Saddam was becoming an unmanageable mess and threat to America’s interests in the region!
http://OsiSpeaks.com or http://OsiSpeaks.org
July 14th, 2007 at 7:56 pmhttp://rense.gsradio.net:8080/ rense/ special/ rense_Benjamin_Fulford_070507.mp3
July 14th, 2007 at 8:01 pmThat’s interesting on another level.
Reagan and Bush’s dad tried to kill Khadafy.
Now Bush and Khadafy are bffs.
I guess Middle Eastern dictators are more forgiving than Western dictators.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:09 pmDaschle speaking up wouldn’t have done any good. Everyone knew this, Bush said as much publicly. The only thing left to be seen is the final human tally of this misappropriation of our country’s servicemen and women.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:24 pmIts unfortunate that Saddam didn’t succeed…twice.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:46 pmIts unfortunate that Saddam didn’t succeed…twice.
Comment by Ben Dover
Careful w/ comments like that, Ben. Whilst I agree w/ the sentiment in spirit, please be careful.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:28 pmTroubling yes, but it explains a lot. It explains WHY Bush is so insanely determined to continue this war indefinitely. Bush’s failure to “win” this war not only makes him look incompetent, but it’s also as if Sadam continues to one-up him. Sadam may be gone and dead, but if Bush can’t end this war, it’s like Sadam is laughing at him from beyond the grave. Bush is obsessed.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:01 pmI think its been well known that was one of the reasons for the war but no one had any way to confirm it. Until now!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI remember Bush being asked about Iraq and what would happen if Saddam did something in one of the 1999-2000 Republican presidential primary debates. I think, but am not sure, it was hosted by Lehrer.
Bush said, quickly, without thinking, “I’d take him out.” Everyone was taken aback, the moderator asked for clarification, Bush backpedaled.
I remember my mouth dropping to the floor. It was one of those “This is the real him” moments.
I wish someone could find that video!
July 14th, 2007 at 10:08 pmHmm, what about the economy? I saw one comment on here saying “the country’s in the hands of madmen” and yet we’ve enjoyed historic low unemployment and a strong economy. Maybe tax cuts and refunds weren’t such a bad idea.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:05 pmAnyone else find it interesting that Osama looks somewhat like Goldstein?
July 14th, 2007 at 11:07 pmOsama bin Laden, best friend chimpy ever had.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:14 pm#101 af
I have not found the video but this might be a transcript of the part you are talking about:
July 14th, 2007 at 11:20 pmas if you wouldnt do this if you became president
July 14th, 2007 at 11:22 pma man who tried to kill your dad
Time to send the SOB to prison.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:25 pmI don’t blame the president for his statement regarding
Saddam Hussein.
But I blame all the Bush haters for making statements
that are just plain inappropriate. It is your right to
disagree with a policy of a politician. But how can you
blame a man for hating someone, who has tried to kill
his father … and, at the same time, make comments
that are even more hateful?
Come on, guys. Stay reasonable.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:30 pmHmm, what about the economy? I saw one comment on here saying “the country’s in the hands of madmen†and yet we’ve enjoyed historic low unemployment and a strong economy. Maybe tax cuts and refunds weren’t such a bad idea.
Comment by Don S — July 14, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
Are you speaking from personal experience?
July 14th, 2007 at 11:31 pm#105 Mr. President
That’s interesting too, but not the one. I found the transcript at an Alan Keyes site: http://www.renewamerica.us/ archives/ transcript.php?id=105
It was from the December 2, 1999 debate in Manchester NH. Brit Hume asked him the question. The dialogue was as follows:
MR. HUME: Governor Bush, Saddam Hussein is still there.
What would you do about that, if anything, that is different from what President Clinton has done?
GOV. BUSH: I wouldn’t ease the sanctions, and I wouldn’t try to negotiate with him.
I’d make darn sure that he lived up to the agreements that he signed back in the early ’90s. I’d be helping the opposition groups. And if I found in any way, shape or form that he was developing weapons of mass destruction, I’d take ‘em out. I’m surprised he’s still there. I think a lot of other people are as well.
MR. HUME: Take him out?
GOV. BUSH: To out the weapons of mass destruction.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:31 pmComment by af — July 14, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
Good catch!
July 14th, 2007 at 11:43 pmAnyone remember that biographer that Bush was giving interviews to, just before he ran for president? I remember the gist of what Bush said.
That to have a successful presidency, you need to have a war. Something small like Granada (Reagan) or Panama. If I ever get the chance I’m not going to blow it like my father did. If I get that political capitol, I will use it to push through everything I can.
This was his definition of a successful presidency, and he was gonna have a successful presidency.
Couple that with the story leading this post, and the neocon agenda pre-BushII, which was take Iraq. That’s there for all you non-believers on the PNAC website.
The letter they all wrote to Clinton, begging him to take Iraq for them. And the document Rebuilding America’s Defenses
That’s where they say they need a catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor for their plans to succeed.
Are those guys Psychic or what?
NEOCON FACT: George Bush was not signed on with the PNAC.
But, Jeb Bush was!
Come on, guys. Stay reasonable.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:45 pmComment by Armin — July 14, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
—————————————————————
I admire him for his candid remarks!!!
Comment by funky p — July 14, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
You’re making a fool out of yourself. PNAC wanted to take down Saddam in ‘98.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:47 pm…But how can you blame a man for hating someone,
who has tried to kill his father …
reasonable… i’m sympathizing with that sentiment…
and, at the same time, make comments that are even more hateful?
oops… that is judgemental… it’s all relative, itsn’t it?
i have trouble understanding those that AREN’T pissed off
at this bunch of ugly selfish selfserving criminals…
Come on, guys. Stay reasonable.
Comment by Armin — July 14, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
nothin’ but…
it occurred to me - how many sons/daughters have said/thought the same thing, “that m.f. tried to take out my dad”, in reference to hw-41…
his cia background and all…
it’s late… i’m punchy…
July 14th, 2007 at 11:53 pmYou’re making a fool out of yourself. PNAC wanted to take down Saddam in ‘98.
Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
Read it again, then go away. The PNAC wrote a letter to Clinton begging him to take Saddam out for them. Now if you had actually read the PNAC documents I cited, you would know that the goal was Iraq, whether Saddam was in charge or not. Iraq was the strategic “jewel” in the crown.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:59 pmNow, who is the fool?
It’s like a game of whack a troll!
IMPEACH AND CONVICT BUSH AND CHENEY NOW
July 15th, 2007 at 12:11 amComment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
July 15th, 2007 at 12:18 amOops… hehehe.
Comment by funky p — July 14, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
July 15th, 2007 at 12:19 amhttp://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
Saddam Hussein worked for the CIA get ready for 911 part 2 by Bushco
http://www.911blogger.com/taxonomy/term/833
July 15th, 2007 at 12:31 amThat strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power.
Yes that’s what the letter said, but in Rebuilding America’s Defenses they lay out the whole plan, and it’s Iraq. Sure, they wanted Saddam gone, but whoever was in charge, they were after Iraq.
July 15th, 2007 at 12:51 amI don’t recommend reading that long boring document, but have at it if that’s your thing.
It’s virtually incomprehensible.
NEO CON FACT:
The Report Rebuilding America’s Defenses
was released In September 2000; One year before 9/11. Really, are those guys Psychic, or what?
Comment by funky p — July 15, 2007 @ 12:51 am
July 15th, 2007 at 1:03 amYou better believe I’m going to read it!!!
I voted for him, and love sucking cock.
July 15th, 2007 at 1:09 amSaddam tried to take out Poppy, but Poppy said he was already involved with Jeff Gannon.
So, Saddam bvtfvkced Big Barbie Bush instead.
As a result , W popped out, and has acted just like the zhit he is…
July 15th, 2007 at 1:16 amYou better believe I’m going to read it!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 15, 2007 @ 1:03 am
Knowledge is power!
NEO CON FACT:
The idea for the surge came from a neocon.
You can find it on think progress, a progressive, liberal, news bloggy website, on July9.
Here’s a quote”
Today, the American Enterprise Institute, a neoconservative think tank, held a discussion entitled “Assessing the Surge in Iraq,†featuring prominent Iraq war proponents like Fred Kagan, Gen. Jack Keane, and James Miller of the Center for a New American Security.
Bush’s escalation was largely inspired by a October 2006 paper written by Kagan, who stated that the U.S. needed to “re-enter Iraq in large numbers.†In today’s conference, Kagan claimed there was a “general agreement†that “violence overall is down†but refused to provide any factual evidence for those arguments:
July 15th, 2007 at 1:20 amSome guy named Mr. President posted a bunch of stuff that day, but I noted none that had any reference to the subject under discussion.
Must be a different one than is posting here. The one on this thread hasn’t called me a bad name yet (okay, maybe fool counts, but I think he’s clear on that now!)
Bush lied and Faked personal motivation,
Bush knew at the time of his meeting with Congressional leadership that there never was an attempt to assasinate GHWBush ‘41. It was thorougly debunked long ago. Never happened. This falsehood belongs, along with the forged Niger documents, in the trashbin of history.
July 15th, 2007 at 1:21 amJK
As a result , W popped out, and has acted just like the zhit he is…
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — July 15, 2007 @ 1:16 am
This is not the political porno website is it?
July 15th, 2007 at 1:25 amI am trying to understand why someone would waste their time even typing such nonsense.
You maybe were looking for the MySpace politics page.
I’m going to bed.
Man, those pdf docs will give you eyestrain.
Happy reading everyone.
ummm personal grudge? didn’t clinton lob missle after missle after missle into iraq, killing civilians, in response to an assassination attempt on the former president of the unided states of america. yea he did, he should go to prison for using missles like mobsters right? you people will think of ANYTHING to help the jihadists defeat george bush and america. way to go!
July 15th, 2007 at 1:32 amI seem to recall him saying something similar in a press conference once. Unless there actually ever was an attempt on #41’s life orchestrated by Saddam, then it remains every bit as false.
Oh and to ‘liberals saved america’ it’s spelled “United”, way to get your hate mongering message across to us blood sucking liberals, eh? Poor spelling is indeed our one true weakness.
July 15th, 2007 at 1:50 amYou liberal commie pinkos need to stop saving whales and feeding trees, grow a pair, and go out and get a real job. Mine some coal, forge some steel, get a damn shave and a haircut. Stop bringing down our troops by telling them you hate them. This is America, we should not have to put up with your unpatriotic bullshit. There’s a country for you, it’s named Cuba.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:05 amBUCK FUSH!!!!!!!!
July 15th, 2007 at 2:14 amComment by Handstand
Stop bringing down our troops by telling them you hate them. —— Some of us ARE the troops. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, ya hippie!
This is America, —– Wow, you’re like super-observant, ain’t cha?
we should not have to put up with your unpatriotic bullshit. —– Who’s being unpatriotic? Oh, and another thing….. This country was founded on tolerance, not the crap you’ve shown up to spew.
There’s a country for you, it’s named Cuba. —- really? I can have it? Wait a minute….doesn’t cuba belong to that Castro guy? Are you sure you cleared this with him?
July 15th, 2007 at 2:32 amAh heck, tell you what…..I’m a nice guy, and really, I already have an island so…..why don’t you take this one? Enjoy your swim!
Actually yes, I specifically cleared Cuba as a zone to fence in all you dope smoking subversive-types, and Castro said it was ok.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:34 amOk I feel bad now that someone in the military called me out… I was messing around. Trolling, as it were. I’m very much anti-bush, ect ect
July 15th, 2007 at 2:42 amMan, those pdf docs will give you eyestrain.
Happy reading everyone.
Comment by funky p — July 15, 2007 @ 1:25 am
Yeah, my eyes are starting to dry out as well, but it’s such a page-turner it’s hard to stop reading!
July 15th, 2007 at 2:44 amActually yes, I specifically cleared Cuba as a zone to fence in all you dope smoking subversive-types, and Castro said it was ok. ———- Yeah, I’m pretty sure that there is already a “fenced in zone for subversive types” in Cuba that’s OK with Castro
Ok I feel bad now that someone in the military called me out… I was messing around. Trolling, as it were. I’m very much anti-bush, ect ect
Comment by Handstand —–Well damn, dude, that takes all the fun out of it…..are you always such a buzzkill?
July 15th, 2007 at 2:48 amOk I feel bad now that someone in the military called me out… I was messing around. Trolling, as it were. I’m very much anti-bush, ect ect
Comment by Handstand — July 15, 2007 @ 2:42 am
You call this trollin’????:
You got nothin’!!!! and this:
Please!!!!
Look, I can tell you’re new here, so I’m not gonna give you a hard time. In fact, here a few pointers:
liberal commie pinkos = Leftist Islamo-Stalinists!!!
July 15th, 2007 at 2:53 amThere’s a country for you… = Your Fascist masters must be proud!!!
TRAITOR Bush is a MURDERER coxucker PUNK who deserves to be in jail until he drops DEAD.
And goes to hell from there.
Pat Tillman’s DEATH, the one LIED about by the military, is NOW “executive privilege”???
One TREASONOUS act after another by the Bush WAR CRIMINALS…
July 15th, 2007 at 3:04 amOkay georgie, we already knew it was personal.
July 15th, 2007 at 5:42 amOn post 131 “Stop bringing down our troops by telling them you hate them. —— Some of us ARE the troops. “ Maybe I can’t find the post, but did anyone here say they hated our troops?
How is not wanting American’s to die to support the grudge of a mad man being against out troops? Have you been brain washed? Sean Hannity once said, “Do you mean to tell parents their children are over there dying for nothing?†That argument doesn’t make any sense because as horrible as that idea is, it doesn’t mean it’s not true. We need to save our troops by bringing them home, and stop pissing people off by this outrageous active of invading another country. I just cringe at the mess we’ve made for the Iraqi people to have to live with.
July 15th, 2007 at 5:50 amHere’s why this still matters.
July 15th, 2007 at 7:08 am“Coommmmme, and list’n to a story bout a man near dead, a per mountineer bearly kept his fam’ly red, n then one day he was shoot’n at some duuude when up tru tha ground come a bubblin crude. Oil that is, Iraqi-T, Sand Gold.” Hehehe, I just luv bein Prezzy.
July 15th, 2007 at 8:13 amLove to hear those nice pseudo-christian salty language remarks by the cowboy president.
July 15th, 2007 at 9:02 amMethinks his mother ought to wash his mouth out with some strong soap.
Wonder if she’s still changing his diaper?
Ah, and Daschle just now remembers this. ThinkProgress - where hearsay and speculation is fact, as long as its coming from the “right” people.
Once again proving that ThinkProgress is nothing other than a propaganda outlet.
ThinkProgess should have higher standards of proof than this, but no.
July 15th, 2007 at 10:30 amComment by Eric — July 15, 2007 @ 7:08 am
Followed your link thanks. Also, i found this:
KARL ROVE: The United States has concerns about taking unilateral action in a sovereign nation without their approval. And so this has always been the difficulty we have with — [Laughter.] Unless, of course, they‘re Saddam Hussein
Rove gave that answer to a question about the revelation that the administration had fixed locations for senior al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan in 2005, but while the Navy SEALs were en route, Sec. Donald Rumsfeld and, probably, Vice Pres. Cheney, called off the attack.
Couldn’t resist a breakfast post.
In neo con philosophy, the goal is not victory but endless war. This shows that the plan is still in play. There is no endgame, or definition of success that they hope to achieve. Chaos, and endless war allows the defense industries to flourish, and the looting of the treasury to continue.
In broad terms, we saw the project as
building upon the defense strategy outlined
by the Cheney Defense Department in the
waning days of the Bush Administration.
The Defense Policy Guidance (DPG) drafted
in the early months
of 1992 provided a
blueprint for
maintaining U.S.
preeminence,
precluding the rise
of a great power
rival, and shaping
the international
security order in
line with American
principles and
interests. Leaked
before it had been
formally approved,
the document was
criticized as an
effort by “cold
warriors†to keep defense spending high and
cuts in forces small despite the collapse of
the Soviet Union; not surprisingly, it was
subsequently buried by the new
administration.
The neocon theory after the cold war collapsed, was America should do whatever is necessary to assure no rivals emerge from their sub-super power status.
What a coincidence. Cheney’s defense department, under BushI, already was planning out the strategy they have been implementing under BushII.
It would never have happened without 9/11.
Or a Demorcratic president.
Those guys sure are lucky. They needed an event like Pearl Harbor to push their Dr. Strangelove pland, and they got it.
NEO CON fact:
July 15th, 2007 at 10:34 amThe axis of evil concept came about in the year 2000, in the document Rebuilding Americas Defenses. Before Bush. Before 9/11.
here’s the money quote:
RAD” takes the posture that only the U.S. should manipulate international relations and points out “trouble spots” that may cause future problems, like Iraq, Iran, Korea and all of East Asia. There is concern that several nations might come together to challenge U.S. interests. Consequently any nation that produces nuclear weapons or engages in significant arms build-up will be viewed as a potential threat.
Wow! Preemptive war is hinted at here too. These guys sure are patient to wait 20 years for their wet dream war!
You lefties are great for a laugh, but realize you’re the joke.
July 15th, 2007 at 10:44 amSO much for one person’s ego !! Destroyed one whole country - Iraq; took so many lives of army personnel, innocent men, women and children. here I would like to bring attention to the thousands of iraqi civilians who have been killed since Mr. President here started the war against his dad’s enemy. everyone talks about the 3500 dead american soldiers, ut no one talks about the thousands of iraqi civilians killed. Taking lives is so easy for Mr. Bush as having breakfast every morning in White House. And, this guy talks about courage and bravery - coming from someone who went AWOL from his own posting in army. the worst part is everyone thinks he is insane, in human and should be stopped ASAP, but no one does anything, Absolutely Nothing !! Those who have the power to stop him - the political leaders, the Democrats - they are more interested in presidential election 2008 rather than saving lives. I salute these human beings without a heart and certainly without a brain.
July 15th, 2007 at 10:47 amYou lefties are great for a laugh, but realize you’re the joke.
Comment by Dave — July 15, 2007 @ 10:44 am
There’s nothing funny about a war started for revenge, global hegemony and oil. What’s funny is the sheeple buying into the scare tactics that brought us where we are today. If Osama bin Laden didn’t exist, we would have to invent him, he’s been great for the neo con agenda.
What would they ever do without him?
What would they do if in fact Osama were already dead.
Would they shout it from the mountaintops; Osama is dead, we have won, let’s go home.
Or, would we conceal it?
Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December [2001] and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan’s president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama’s gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama’s ghost alive or because they have no means of communication. Click for full sized image
With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival? [New York Times. July 11, 2002]
Oh, but that’s the liberal NY Times, they can’t be trusted(but our government can?)
Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan in December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden are probably fabrications, Middle East Newsline reported. [World Tribune]
Middle East Newsline?
World Tribune?
Probably more Liberals.
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa’da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. [Welfare State]
http://www.cnn.com/ 2002/ WORLD/ asiapcf/ south/ 01/ 19/ gen.musharraf.binladen.1.19/ index.html
Musharraf: bin Laden likely dead
EXCERPTS:
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) –Pakistan’s president says he thinks
Osama bin Laden is most likely dead because the
suspected terrorist has been unable to get treatment for
his kidney disease.
“I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a …
kidney patient,” Gen. Pervez Musharraf said on Friday in an
interview with CNN.
Musharraf said Pakistan knew bin Laden took two dialysis
machines into Afghanistan. “One was specifically for his own
personal use,” he said.
“I don’t know if he has been getting all that treatment in
Afghanistan now. And the photographs that have been shown
of him on television show him extremely weak. … I would
give the first priority that he is dead and the second priority
that he is alive somewhere in Afghanistan.”
With bin Laden dead, they have less to scare us with. Al Qaeda is the joke, and the joke is on you Bush believers for buying into the whole Iraq war mess. Unfortunately, the joke is sad, even tragic. And 25% of the population remains fooled!
July 15th, 2007 at 10:59 amGo ahead, laugh it up; nothing funnier than getting 3600 soldiers killed while bankrupting the treasury. Funny stuff.
So the bush is another Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin–incarnate evil–rolled into one perverted form resembling, somewhat, a human being but with no sentient qualities and applying one mantra: the end justifies the means.
Hitler hated Jews: murdered six million along with forty-nine million Europeans.
Stalin hated anyone disagreeing with him: murdered twenty million.
The bush hates Arabs: murdered a couple million between him and his half-wit father.
July 15th, 2007 at 11:13 am