WH refuses to criticize Iraqi lawmakers’ vacation.
By on Jul 14th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
WH refuses to criticize Iraqi lawmakers’ vacation.
On Friday, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow dismissed concerns of the Iraqi parliament’s August recess, even though President Bush promised in May that Vice President Cheney would persuade them to skip it. Steve Benen notes that several conservative senators, who initially criticized the Iraqi lawmakers, are now silent: “Are the stay-the-course Republicans going to do anything about it? If the past week is any indication, they’ll bluster a bit before doing what they always do — acceding to the president’s demands.”
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Those so called conservative senators are just shrubs policy lap dogs doing what shrub wants them to do.
Shrub is too busy right now with extending executive privlige to everyone and his mother covering up his own shit to worry about his dirty little war.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:35 pmshouldn’t our soldiers get a vacation? just a suggestion.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:38 pmwell, considering the vacations Bush regularly takes…..
July 14th, 2007 at 6:40 pmW can’t complain – he has taken every August off (sole exception, 2004 = election year) since he has been in office (but never elected by voters).
July 14th, 2007 at 6:41 pmWhy should they? Chickenhawks don’t have to go there. They just send other people’s children to die for their lies… Hey, where’s Osama?
July 14th, 2007 at 6:41 pmWeel, geez, it gets hot in Crawford too… Herr Bru$ch can feel their pain.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:42 pmhttp://www.pbs.org/ moyers/ journal/ video_popups/ pop_vid_impeachment1-1.html
discussion on Impeachment. Bruce Fein and John Nichols. Fein is from AEI and Supports Impeachment, as does the Nations Nichols.
The time has come for Impeachment
July 14th, 2007 at 6:45 pmWell, the Green Zone isn’t safe anymore, so they must be planning on vacationing out of the country. Someplace that doesn’t serve pipe bombs, IED’s or bullets on the menu.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:47 pmHey let them go ahead and take the month off. Our congress won’t be far behind. The greatest relief that I have is that the longer they refuse to acquiesce to the oil sharing law(our law their sharing), then maybe we’ll actually be able to get the hell out before we really screw up.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:54 pmfootsore
Someplace that doesn’t serve pipe bombs, IED’s or bullets on the menu.
Comment by Nance
“C-4… it’s not just for dinner anymore!”
July 14th, 2007 at 6:55 pmWhy are we STILL there?: – -
July 14th, 2007 at 6:57 pmPrime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Saturday that the Iraqi army and police are capable of keeping security in the country when American troops leave “any time they want,” though he acknowledged the forces need further weapons and training….
…one of his top aides, Hassan al-Suneid, rankled at the assessment, saying the U.S. was treating Iraq like “an experiment in an American laboratory.” He sharply criticised the U.S. military, saying it was committing human rights violations, embarassing the Iraqi government with its tactics and cooperating with “gangs of killers” in its campaign against al-Qaida in Iraq.
Well, the Iraqi parliament doesn’t want to do some of the things being forced upon by the Americans. When occupied, the only way to fight back is to delay. This is their resistance.
BTW, did anyone read Fisk’s comment on the lessons to be learned from Lawrence of Arabia today?
July 14th, 2007 at 6:58 pmHey, where’s Osama?
Comment by marlow — July 14, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
Starring in videos and firing up his base it seems.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/07/14/bin.laden.video/index.html
CNN says the footage was old, well as long as it is effective your troops and your country are in deep sh*t.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:59 pmwonderful, just wonderful. They go on vacation to avoid the 130 degree heat and our guys are left there to die in it. Where is the justice? Where has the justice been for our military in this whole occupation? I think we all know the answer to that.
They no longer want us there and believe that they can handle it themselves. This is becoming clearer each day. Besides, they know that the only reason we’re there is Bush’s oil lust. They’ll be pitching us out on our ear soon even before the Bush Cabal is able to try to clean up it’s rep by designing some new cockamamie Iraq plan.
We’re about to get heaved out of their country right now.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:59 pmIs this the stable Iraq their PM was talking about? Is that the peaceful Iran you’ve been talking about?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1184168563665&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
July 14th, 2007 at 7:00 pm#13 Is this the real OBL or the fake OBL from one of the tapes we were propagandized with?
July 14th, 2007 at 7:00 pm#16: Fake Osama? Geez. I haven’t heard that spin before. Your tinfoilery is reaching amazing proportions…
July 14th, 2007 at 7:01 pm“Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki… acknowledged the forces need further weapons and training….”
Comment by Badmoodman
Geez, al-Maliki has got to be kidding, right? Iraq has to be the most heavily armed country on the planet right now, even worse than the Oklahoma St football team’s locker room or S Central LA, for that matter.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:03 pm#16: Fake Osama? Geez. I haven’t heard that spin before. Your tinfoilery is reaching amazing proportions…
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
Oh F*ck you, you disingenous assh*le. This has been thoroughly examined and debated the last few yrs. If you’d get yer head out of your nether regions, you might be more up on these things.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:05 pmNo. Shrub is just evidencing the firm, steady cowardice for which he is so well known. Just look at our actions in Pakistan. A coward to frightened of losing the Pakistani military leader by insisting on action against Al Qaeda (or merely taking such action), fear of pressuring Maliki and his weak government to make real reform and fear that any admission of mistake or strategic change on his part would disclose him for the weak thinker and coward that he really is.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:06 pmIs that the peaceful Iran you’ve been talking about?
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
Again, deliberately misleading. No one here ever claims Iran is a peaceful country. try a real argument, and not this false, self-serving crap you shovel up w/ both hands a foot. NEXT!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:07 pm#19: Ok, I’m sure it has beeb. Funny thing that CIA authenticated every tape and there is no mention of any fake “Bin Ladens” in the media. But I’m sure you’ve got a more reliable source. I’ve got mine, too. I get these daily transmissions from Tau Ceti Alpha telling me to avoid certain cracks on the pavement and what Presidential candidates are, in actuality, members of an alien race known as Reptoids.
Geez…
July 14th, 2007 at 7:07 pmOh, and I forgot to mention. If you don’t believe in Reptoids, just do a Google search for them. You’ll find plenty of evidence on the net.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:08 pmhttp://www.americanfreedomagenda.org/
Conservatives looking to restore the rule of law to Executive Branch for the good of the county.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:12 pm(CNN) New al Qaeda tape features old message from bin Laden
Release doesn’t necessarily indicate imminent attack, official says
Tape made in last 4 weeks but uses old clips, analyst says
Bin Laden segment takes only 50 seconds of 40-minute video
Other speakers include Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, killed in 2006
I said yesterday it was time for a new Bin Laden tape. Where’s Ace at?
July 14th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI’ve got mine, too. I get these daily transmissions from Tau Ceti Alpha telling me to avoid certain cracks on the pavement and what Presidential candidates are, in actuality, members of an alien race known as Reptoids.
Geez…
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
And with all that help, you still can’t avoid the crack between your cheeks, though.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:14 pm#16: Fake Osama? Geez. I haven’t heard that spin before. – - Sure, you know, Osama bin Dave.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:14 pm#26: Oookay. I have no idea what you’re talking about, but I’m sure this Dave is very import in your life.
(wtf)
July 14th, 2007 at 7:16 pmThe winged Draco reptoids and their superiors, the Draco Prime reptoids.
Oh My God! The Reptoids are REAL! run away!!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:18 pm#26: Oookay. I have no idea what you’re talking about, but I’m sure this Dave is very import in your life. – - Humor, it is a difficult concept. The movie, Dave.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:18 pmcan feel their pain.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 14, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
————————————————————–
…Cliii…
okay, I won’t do it.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:18 pmthere is no mention of any fake “Bin Ladens†in the media.
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin
Surely, you do think you’re being funny, which you aren’t.
Geez, you only get 1.8 MILLION hits on Google for ‘fake bin ladin”.
Oh, look, here’s one from the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2526309.stm
Hmm, I wonder if they’re wearing their tin foil hats today?
July 14th, 2007 at 7:19 pmThey even have an artists rendering of them…..
they are as real as the mobile anthrax labs that Powell had renderings of….
July 14th, 2007 at 7:20 pm#31: What? You actually read and watch BBC?! Bwahahahaha! Ok. That explains a lot.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:20 pmThe time has come for Impeachment
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
July 14th, 2007 at 7:20 pm——————————————————————-
…zzzzzzzzzz… zzzzz… zzzz… zzzz……..
okay, I won’t do it.
Comment by Mr. President
No, because it wouldn’t make the least bit of sense, would it?
July 14th, 2007 at 7:21 pm#29: Ok. Searched imdb. Really, really not my kind of a movie.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:21 pmThe Reptoids are eating Dick Cheney!! oh wait,that’s ok.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:22 pm#17 try doing some homework and you’ll see for yourself. A good starting point would be 911truth.org as well as some others where the 4th OBL tape was a forgery. See for yourself. Education can be intoxicating and maybe you should try getting some sometime??
July 14th, 2007 at 7:22 pmWhat’s your favorite source for news?
PS: When you write “Bwahahahaha” it makes you seem dumb as snot.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:23 pmMr. President,
July 14th, 2007 at 7:23 pmAs a 25% of the peopl that still suppoprt this evil Jewish run Cabal how does it feel being in minority.
Americans are sick of Jews running this country and pray that Iran wipes Israel out!
There will be nothing you pathetic Christians can do!
The Left and Islam will triumph!
fake bin ladin
July 14th, 2007 at 7:23 pmHmm… I wonder what that search means considering you mistyped the name.
Drinkin and stinkin says it all with his choice of name. He’s probably three sheets to the wind by now and his breath probably smells like a cesspool. Nothing worse than a drunk Trolltard, is there?
July 14th, 2007 at 7:24 pmComment by isis11
clearly the “confession” tape of Bin Ladden is clearly a fake.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:24 pm#31: What? You actually read and watch BBC?! Bwahahahaha! Ok. That explains a lot.
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
Geez, let’s see, read what the BBC has to say, or take Drinkin’ and Stinkin’ seriously… tap, tap, tap… BBC or, T&S… BBC or T&S…
Oh yeah, EAAASY choice…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ;-D ;-D
July 14th, 2007 at 7:24 pmI think Drinkin and Stinkin’s been lying under a rock for a few years. Maybe he’s one of those real trolls who live under a bridge at night?
July 14th, 2007 at 7:25 pmIf I was an Iraqi lawmaker, I’d want to ‘get out of Dodge’, too!
I mean, what kind of agreements are they going to come up with between themselves, when half of them hates the other half and both halves hate us.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:25 pmNobody there trusts anyone. All sides are trying to get the best advantages for their side and we’re there watching to make sure that the side who gets the best deal is the deal that will benefit us the most. It’s a lose, lose situation all around.
I smell a redneck version of Mr. Pee in our drinkin and stinkin troll. Time to split and leave the trollturds do their own circle jerk.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:25 pm#29: Ok. Searched imdb. Really, really not my kind of a movie.
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
The title doesn’t have “Barnyard” or “Naughty” or “Schoolboys” in it.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:26 pmLater Gators. Better things to do on a saturday night then to get drinkin and stinkin with another moron troll.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:26 pmGerald,
July 14th, 2007 at 7:26 pmI agree it was Israel behind 9/11. I wouldn’t be suprise if he’s in Tel Aviv!
It’s always the jews setting up the peace loving Muslims!
Hi Mr. President, you dumbass!
Right up until this morning, Mr. President was under the impression that Saudi Arabian was a non-Muslim nation.
Saudi Arabia is 100% Muslim. It’s where Islam originated.
Maybe Mr President thought they were Catholics. What an ignorant blowhard.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:26 pm#29: Ok. Searched imdb. Really, really not my kind of a movie. – - Yikes, you completely missed the point. “Dave” is about a lookalike stand-in for the real president. Just playing with the thread. (And I worked on the film.) Carrion….
July 14th, 2007 at 7:27 pmfake bin ladin
Hmm… I wonder what that search means considering you mistyped the name.
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
You’re such a pointless a** it’s breath-taking.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:27 pmA good starting point would be 911truth.org
For fscks sake! Don’t you guys screen your sources in any way? “911truth.org”??? It sounds just about as unbiased and convincing as “governmentufoconspiracy.org”.
I am worried about you guys. I really am. You quote vague websites as valid sources, congregate on your blogs like DKos preaching to the choir and then coming out to the world screaming stupid s*it like “Bush was behind 9/11″, “No plane hit Pentagon” or “Bin Laden is just Bush’s Propaganda” as if it were a proven fact.
God. You’re even worse than the UFO nuts, you know.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:27 pmGerald and Barry,
July 14th, 2007 at 7:28 pmIt was the Jews that did 9/11. The Mossad forged the Bin Laden tapes so America attacks peace loving Muslims.
If we want’t world peace then Israel and the Jews must be exterminated!
You’re such a pointless a** it’s breath-taking.
Really? Considering that you got a smashing 1.8 MILLION hits on an entry you friggin’ mistyped, how reliable do you think your information would be even if you got the name correct. Use your head, dude!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:29 pmWhy are we STILL there?: – -
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Saturday that the Iraqi army and police are capable of keeping security in the country when American troops leave “any time they want,â€
He hasn’t proven himself to be trustworth.
though he acknowledged the forces need further weapons and training….
So then, when he said that the army and police were capable without the Americans… that was a lie?
…one of his top aides, Hassan al-Suneid, rankled at the assessment, saying the U.S. was treating Iraq like “an experiment in an American laboratory.†He sharply criticised the U.S. military, saying it was committing human rights violations, embarassing the Iraqi government with its tactics and cooperating with “gangs of killers†in its campaign against al-Qaida in Iraq.
Comment by Badmoodman — July 14, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
And that is exactly why we should not listen to a damn thing these pricks are saying. This is nothing but sectarian propaganda (probably straight from al-Sadr) and should be seen for what it is, utter bull$hit!
Until this bull$hit stops, it is clear that we need to stay.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:30 pmGod. You’re even worse than the UFO nuts, you know.
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
It sounds just about as unbiased and convincing as “governmentufoconspiracy.orgâ€.
Haven’t even bothered to look at it, huh? You must really like the view from your “Fortress of Stolidtude”.
There’s no point in dealing w/ someone like you. You’re soooo convinced you know everything already. You gotta be one of those hardcore 31…oops I mean 28.. oops 26%ers… Sorry, the numbers just keep dropping so fast.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:31 pmReally? Considering that you got a smashing 1.8 MILLION hits on an entry you friggin’ mistyped, how reliable do you think your information would be even if you got the name correct. Use your head, dude!
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
Have you actaully ever used “The Google”?
Type in “Bin Ladin” and Google asks you, You mean “Bin Laden” and presto, Drinkin’ and Stinkin’ looks like a pathetic liar. When you have to resort to silliness like this, you have nothing to say. NEXT!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:33 pm“Fortress of Stolidtude†– - Dude, lay off the Stoli.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:35 pmMaybe Mr President thought they were Catholics. What an ignorant blowhard.
Comment by Arthur C.
And his rationalizations for that statement are hilarious.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:36 pmPrime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Saturday that the Iraqi army and police are capable of keeping security in the country when American troops leave “any time they want,â€
Translation: Our Shiite Death Squads have a final solution in mind for those pesky Sunnis.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:38 pm#56: Uh. What? You completely missed my point. You get 1.8 MILLION hits when you search “Fake Bin Ladin” and get another couple of million hits when you search for “Fake Bin Laden”, so what the hell are those searches good for?
If I look for Fake Elvis Laden I’d still get plenty of hits. Does it mean that I can trust any that crap? No. The difference between the two of us is that you’re willing to believe any crap that’s on the net. I will not believe any stuff I read on the net, before I get it from a reliable source like a news organization, mainstream paper or a real encyclopedia.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:38 pmJust to add: BBC is a government run operation that has an inherent left-wing bias. I cannot consider it as a reliable news organization.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:41 pmJust like Chimpy, a pack of lazy malcontents.
-GSD
July 14th, 2007 at 7:42 pm#56: Uh. What? You completely missed my point. You get 1.8 MILLION hits when you search “Fake Bin Ladin†and get another couple of million hits when you search for “Fake Bin Ladenâ€, so what the hell are those searches good for?
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
Clearly, you don’t know how to use Google. You type in “fake bin ladin” it will only direct you to “fake Bin laden” You get NO hits for “Fake Bin Ladin”, you pathetic dum-dum.
In all honesty, you really ought to check these things out before you shoot your mouth off. Now, maybe if you confine your searches to Conservapedia, you’ll actually find an article that says you’ve got a real point to make. but I doubt that too.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:44 pmComment by Arthur C. — July 14, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
About the Kingdom:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html
They are a country of Mushriks!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:44 pmBBC [...] inherent left-wing bias.
Like what? Be specific. Cite examples.
Or are you just parroting something that you think you heard somewhere once?
PS: What’s yer preferred news source?
July 14th, 2007 at 7:45 pmI cannot consider it as a reliable news organization.
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’
Unsubstantiated gibberish. Like YOU’ve got credibiity on an international basis. Absolutely NO real argument, just half-baked attitude. Loser!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:45 pmAll agreed…
They are a country of Mushriks!!!!
Comment by Mr. President
And you’re a fallacious idjit.
Who is “all”??? Again, go ask the Saudis is they’re Moslems. PLEASE go ask. (They still flog in Saudi Arabia… PLEASE go..) You defy belief after a while, you twit.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:48 pmPS: What’s yer preferred news source?
Comment by Arthur C
The BDB
(The Bureau of Drinkin’s Butt)
July 14th, 2007 at 7:48 pmBBC is a government run operation that has an inherent left-wing bias.
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’ — July 14, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Would that be the goverment of Tony Blair, that is in charge of southern Iraq/Basra? And compared to America, all of Europe has an inherent left-wing bias. They don’t throw their poor sick people out on the streets, for instance.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:50 pmhttp://www.pbs.org/ newshour/ terrorism/ international/ fatwa_1996.html — Mr President
Holy shit, when the hell did you start depending on fatwas from Osama bin Laden as a reliable source for facts??? That seems like quite a turnaround.
That’s the dumbest thing you ever tried to argue, Mr. P. What the hell were you thinking?
You’re boring me.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:53 pmThey don’t throw their poor sick people out on the streets, for instance.
Comment by Badger
Now, That’s an idea whose time has come… re-institute the draft, but base it on INCOME. We could round up all those worthless homeless people and ship ‘em off to fight for their country! Some of them maybe 70 and 80 yr old women, but, hey, WHO CARES!!! They won’t be cluttering up the streets as Thinkin’ and Stinkin’ drives to the package store for his next six pack, will they?
July 14th, 2007 at 7:53 pmYou’re boring me.
Comment by Arthur C.
Pssst… Art C, it’s also from PBS!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:55 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 14, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Face it TRoS, if one does not follow Shari’a law and one supports the infidels, then he is not a true Muslim.
This is why so-called Muslims in Western countries are dangerous, because it is their duty to Jihad against the infidels!!!!!
Especially if we are talking about a democratic society, because in that case, it is the people who elect the leaders who are held responsible for the actions of the leaders, so it is the people who must die!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:57 pmre-institute the draft, but base it on INCOME. Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 14, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
Seems like they tried that very thing during our Civil War. Unfortunately it led to riots.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:57 pm1. March 2001 – Vice-President Dick Cheney meets with oil-company executives and reviews oil field maps of Iraq.
2. On May 8, 2001, the president charged Mr. Cheney with overseeing a “national effort” to coordinate all federal programs for responding to domestic attacks.
3. On Sept. 11th 2001, Cheney was in charge of Norad drills involving actual aircraft in staged “terrorist” take-over drills. One was even involving a “simulated” take-over targeting Twin Towers.
4. In 2000, Norad was called to 67 intercepts of suspicious aircraft. They achieved 100% in required time. On 9/11 they were called on by FAA 4 times and achieved 0%, under control of Dick Cheney.
5. No Vice President has ever run Norad drills before of since.
6. The plane struck the Pentagon 1:20 after the first plane hit WTC. There are “scramble squads” on the ground at an Air Force Reseave Base less than 10 minutes from Washington. They never left the ground.
7. Rice and Cheney both said that they had never even imagined that someone would think to use a plane as a weapon, yet that very day there was a Norad drill being supervised by Cheney that had that very contingency in the scenario.
8. Dick Cheney to this day defies all inquiries into documents relating to his meetings before 911 and after.
9. Cheney has created his own classification of secret documents “Treat as if Classified”.
10. Cheney has personally profited from Halliburton stock to the tune of 10s of millions of dollars.
Impeachment is now.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:59 pmFace it TRoS, if one does not follow Shari’a law and one supports the infidels, then he is not a true Muslim.
Comment by Mr. President
Excuse me, now you’re an expert on Islam??? Un-frickin’-believable.
PLEASE, PLEASE go tell this to the Saudis. PLEASE>>>>!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 7:59 pmComment by Arthur C. — July 14, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
Know thy enemy!
…
…
hint:
(m_slims)
buy a vowel?
July 14th, 2007 at 8:00 pmPssst… Art C, it’s also from PBS!!!!
Yes. In a mad, last-ditch effort to buttress his ignorant argument that Saudis are not Muslims, Mr P has to cite an OBL fatwa, of all things, posted at PBS, of all places.
That must make eating crow doubly bitter, Mr P.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:01 pmUnfortunately it led to riots.
Comment by Badger
Say what??? Those ungrateful little old ladies rioted? I hope we put them in their places!!!
BTW, what happened to D&S??? he was kinda fun to play w/. A little short on “facts”, as we like to call ‘em, but fun. Probably got thirsty.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:01 pmBBC is a government run operation that has an inherent left-wing bias.
Comment by Drinkin’ and stinkin’ — July 14, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Would that be the goverment of Tony Blair, that is in charge of southern Iraq/Basra?
Comment by Badger
Oh Yeah. Slam dunk by Badger.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:03 pmWoo-Hoo!
:)
That must make eating crow doubly bitter, Mr P.
Comment by Arthur C.
He’s so busy beating off to his own “cleverness” he can’t be reached.
If ONLY we could fly him to the Middle east, so he could tell the Saudis to their faces. Just make sure you got a cam running. I really, really want to see that piece of tape! ;-D!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 8:03 pmComment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
Know my enemy!
…
…
hint:
(ignor_nce & h_te)
buy a vowel?
July 14th, 2007 at 8:03 pmGeez, I think I just blew a rib right out the side of my body from laughing so hard. Gotta go. Carry on, folks. The trolls will be back.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:05 pmbuy a vowel?
Comment by Arthur C.
He can’t read, Arthur. He only looks at the pictures, until the pages finally get stuck together.
Later…
July 14th, 2007 at 8:06 pmLater all…
July 14th, 2007 at 8:08 pmhttp://rense.gsradio.net:8080/ rense/ special/ rense_Benjamin_Fulford_070507.mp3
July 14th, 2007 at 8:15 pmI’m only going to try and reach you once, Mr. P.
Please listen. Just for once.
Want to know the name of the longest lasting (time-wise) terrorist group in the world?
They like to call themselves the KKK.
They started off as fraternity type idiots, scaring poor newly freed slaves.
Then, the turn of the century saw a change. They felt Catholics were taking over, and abhorred that the black men had the right to vote. There were a lot of speeches about how they were going to take the power away from the Protestant Whites, were going to destroy them. Thus violence began – for no other reason than they wanted to keep their power, and keep others down.
Does any of this sound the least bit familiar to the fright-based Muslim haters?
You call Muslims savages who will kill us all given the chance.
The KKK called black people savages, who would rape white women given the chance.
It’s all fear based – and NOT true.
It’s all fear and ignorance based. Get to know ONE muslim person, and then decide.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:20 pmtrueblue,
July 14th, 2007 at 8:30 pmThanks for sticking up for us Muslims!
I really appreciate it!
Muslimsh*tlegislators, I see, could use the much-needed time off from doing absolutely nothing. They said they needed more time to spend with their family, doing absolutely nothing x nothing.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:42 pmThe KKK got a real boost from the D.W. Griiffith movie “Birth of a Nation.” It portrayed blacks during reconstruction as virtual jungle beasts who stole from,brutalized, and raped whites. By the end of World War I, 25 million tickets had been sold. In the 1920’s the mayors of Portland Oregon and Portland Maine were KKK members. Sen. Robt. Byrd was a member. A definite paradigm for Hitler’s rise to power a few years later in Europe
July 14th, 2007 at 8:42 pmAmazingly, what spelled the end of popular support for the KKK was Superman. In his book, Freakonomics, Steven Levitt describes a KKK infiltrator, who fed information to the writers of the Superman character, who led the charge against the KKK. Kids all across America began questioning their parents bigoted viewpoints.
Mr. P. should read the books by Khaled Hosseini… Kite Runner… to get a look at real Muslim people.
Trueblue,
Fear is one of the most important instincts that human-beings are blessed to have. Without fear, surely, the human race would not exist today (as our anscestors in Africa would have been devoured by lions). Some psychologists say that it is natural, when one is affraid, for he or she to instinctively seek a state of perceived safety through “flight” or “fight” responses. Adrenaline and endorphines are released and the person have the experience might even become stronger, run faster, or think more clearly in order to escape or negate the perceived threatening situation.
Here in America, I know Muslims and I have known Muslims, they do not condone this:
We — with Allah’s help — call on every Muslim who believes in Allah and wishes to be rewarded to comply with Allah’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan’s U.S. troops and the devil’s supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.
From my position, here in America, I do not experience the fear and paranoia which would produce the irrational, instinctive chain-reactions in my brain/glands/nervous system/etc. associated with the flight or fight response. Hence I do not feel the urge to do violence to anyone, or to hide under my bed/stay out of malls/etc.
My position is calculated and utilitarian, it is in the best interest of the USA, and those who are now considered “muslims,” for this nonsensical religion to:
a) undergo a MASSIVE make over (which is not likely)
or
b) for Islam to be abolished of the face of the earth.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:44 pmComment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
CT,
We should probably not use that name for a little while…
after The Joker’s escapades last night… well…
I’m just sayin’
July 14th, 2007 at 8:46 pmMuslimsh*tlegislators, I see, could use the much-needed time off from doing absolutely nothing. They said they needed more time to spend with their family, doing absolutely nothing x nothing.
Comment by CT_V1
Sounds like someone’s now dissatisfied with the religious theocracy bought with his tax dollars.
Halliburton thanks you for your continued support.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:50 pmThis is a reply I received from Faiz this afternoon:
July 14th, 2007 at 8:50 pm
Ah hell, that’s priceless —
Mr President calls for genocide, but reminds CT not to use their favorite vulgar term.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:52 pmComment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 8:50 pm
As if I care. They already have the power to delete whatever comments they choose, they clearly get to see IP numbers, so what more would registration do?
Once registration is commenced and you still have a problem with “trolls” (dissent), what will your next recourse be to secure your echo-chamber?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:00 pmComment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
OK, done. Thanks for the notice, Mr. P.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:02 pmComment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
mr.pee plagerized someone else’s psychotic writings…
July 14th, 2007 at 9:05 pmit’s never been able to string more than a few words
together to come up with one sentence at a time…
OK, done. Thanks for the notice, Mr. P.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
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He tried to come on today as “Umar Lee” but the TP software managed to block him.
I wonder if we will ever see him again……
But anyway, I am going to try not to explicitly say things, as I have done in the past. It will be better in the long run, maybe…
July 14th, 2007 at 9:06 pmwhat will your next recourse be to secure your echo-chamber?
Comment by CT_V1
“echo-chamber”??? Is that what you call it when you get your head up your own butt? How quaint…
Dissent… yeaaaah… mocking a dead American soldier is “dissent”. Swarming a website’s thread w/ over 4000 hostile, vulgar posts in 12 hrs is “dissent”.
Are you getting your definitions from Conservapedia?
Now, if “dissent” were to merge w/ “commentary”, you guys would have “dysentary”, which goes along way to explaining alot of the posts you do here.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:07 pm“Once registration is commenced and you still have a problem with ‘trolls’ (dissent), what will your next recourse be to secure your echo-chamber?”
Reasoned dissent is always welcome. Cliche’d rhetoric, and previously-debunked spin? If someone continues to spout the same crap, after being proven wrong? Why allow it?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:08 pmCT,
For example, right about now I would probably have something to say to katy.
But the new Mr. President is just going to ignore it.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:08 pmIn case you forgot who you are talking to:
“Comment by SGT Stephen R. Sherman
Namejacking a dead soldier is about the lowest, most vile thing you can do, troll. We know who you really are and I’m going to take whatever effort is needed to remove you from the site permanently, even if it takes awhile.
You’re a coward and a punk, troll.
Comment by gummitch — July 13, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
July 14th, 2007 at 9:14 pmHow many soldiers will die during the vacation?
Trolls should preface every statement from now on with an apology to us for their cupidity.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:14 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 14, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
You can take your speculation elsewhere. As a matter of fact, I think you’d be more likely to find your answer by emailing TP about it. You could ask: “Were the disgraceful comments and impersonation of that dead soldier linked to any original poster on this board? If so, could you give me the name?” Heck, they might even let you in. You can finally know who was the culprit. I’m warning you, however, that it may very well be a regular leftist poster and it could blow up in your face.
I suspect you’re milking this for what it’s worth in all the wrong ways. That’s equally shameful. Bug TP or drop the subject. It’s been condemned and discussed by “trolls” and leftists alike.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:15 pm“the fact that now you and your ilk are now using my Soldiers name as a joke is the upmost disrespect, but I am a believer in karma and yours and the rest who choose to be ignorant is coming.
Tired of Fighting
Tired of Fighting is a veteran of 3 tours of duty in Iraq and about to go back in Sept.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:16 pmComment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Wait, The Joker is ‘Umar Lee.’ Heck, I just read his blog.
And yeah, you probably have a much better handle on not being so easily reactive to these lefties than I do. Good initiative, Mr. President.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:18 pmI hope if Tired of Fighting is a real soldier that he dies like his buddy!
July 14th, 2007 at 9:19 pmThat’s one less Lefty!
I am not this Joker you speak of.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:21 pmI am an American Muslim who’s sick of you Klansman attacking my people!
Once registration is commenced and you still have a problem with “trolls†(dissent), what will your next recourse be to secure your echo-chamber?
Comment by CT_V1
Hey, I don’t have a problem in the world if someone wants to disagree, and wants to have a conversation.
What you do is TROLLING. You add nothing. You litter the blog with nonsense. You post bigoted comments.
I asked you to contribute to the discussion on TP, and you have chosen your path.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:21 pmUmar Lee is an idiot.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:21 pmDid I just see that? Did one of these guys post as that soldier again, and it got wiped out?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:21 pmMy position is calculated and utilitarian, it is in the best interest of the USA, and those who are now considered “muslims,†for this nonsensical religion to:
a) undergo a MASSIVE make over (which is not likely)
or
b) for Islam to be abolished of the face of the earth.
Comment by Mr. President
You have this endlessly banal fantasy that your logic is implacable. Okay, tough guy, answer me this.
You’re quoting Osama Bin Laden to prove… ** snicker** … that Saudi Arabia ISN’T a Moslem country.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… excuse me, I couldn’t help it. OBL? Bin Laden also hates Bush. So is he right on one count and wrong on the other? Just… asking…
“We did not find it difficult to deal with Bush and his administration, because it is similar to regimes in our countries – both types include many who are full of arrogance and greed.”
Direct quote from… Osama bin Laden
So, ah, which is it?
In addition, oh Clueless One… whilst you’re so determined to prove how dangerous OBL is, The Great Deciderer has said he doesn’t even think about him! Shit, the CIA Unit dedicated to capturing Osama was even shut down in late 2005. OMG, shouldn’t you be upset w/ Herr Bru$ch???
On top of that, it was DEMS who just upped the reward money for his capture to $50MM YESTERDAY. NOT the GOOPERs, the DEMS!!!
What a F-ing maroon…. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 9:21 pmComment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
You’re not worth impressing. You make endless demands when you contribute nothing yourself.
Please ignore my posts. You’re an authoritarian lefty.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:23 pmMr. President, I bid you good day, sir.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:23 pmIt is time to take it into our hands and trag these filthy bastard thugs out of our White House. They are ruining our country.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:23 pmCT_V1 ,
July 14th, 2007 at 9:24 pmYou’re an ignorant redneck!
You’re upset my Muslim brothers are deafeating your weak pathetic Army.
You’re also upset that us Muslims and our Leftwing Allies are now dominating America!
It’s tough to be on the losing side of history!
Mr. President got kicked for posting as that soldier again, didn’t he?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:24 pmThat’s great. It looks as if ‘Umar Lee’ is our culprit.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:24 pmI suspect you’re milking this for what it’s worth in all the wrong ways. That’s equally shameful. Bug TP or drop the subject. It’s been condemned and discussed by “trolls†and leftists alike.
Comment by CT_V1
You’re a fool. I’m not milking this for anything. I stayed off the thread yesterday you fools polluted so badly. I’ve barely commented on the subject yesterday or today. You’re too stupid to debate w/.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:25 pmI was just reading a new post signed as that soldier and thinking I can’t believe someone did it again, and I hit refresh and it’s gone.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:25 pmAnd so is Mr. President
July 14th, 2007 at 9:25 pmYou’re an authoritarian lefty.
Comment by CT_V1
No, please allow us to IGNORE you, you freakin’ creep.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:26 pmMr. President, under all his so called identities is a useless asshole with no life. How can one stupid bastard stay on this board 24/7, 365 days a year without being a mindless piece of shit troll?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:26 pmGet a life, dumbass.
Did anyone else see that?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:26 pmcupidity.
Comment by barfly — July 14, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
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Hey, man. We’re trolls, not cherubs.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:26 pmI suspect you’re milking this for what it’s worth in all the wrong ways. That’s equally shameful. Bug TP or drop the subject. It’s been condemned and discussed by “trolls†and leftists alike.
Comment by CT_V1
Project much? To me, it seems you’re desperate to derail the thread, since you can’t defend Bush’s failed experiment’s latest manifestation: the unserious Iraqi legislature. Is this an example of success in Iraq?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:26 pmYes willy, I saw it too.
F*cking pricks.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:27 pmwillyloman,
July 14th, 2007 at 9:27 pmMr President is an evil redeneck.
I thank you for your support for Islam.
May Allh give you 1000 blessings my freind!
Yes willy, I saw it too.
F*cking pricks.
Comment by Zooey
No! That’s great! That means that TP was watching and as soon as Mr. P posted as the soldier again, they zapped him!
Thank you TP!!!!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 9:29 pmThey just zapped him again!!!!!
lol
There you go TP!!!! Thats the stuff!!!!!!
July 14th, 2007 at 9:30 pmMr. President, I bid you good day, sir.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
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Good day to you too, sir.
and remember, we are Virginia Gentlemen at all times.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:31 pmthnks for responding Zooey. I thought I was crazy for a minute there.
And to TP; I personally thank you for the efforts here. The integrity of this site is restored.
And on a personal note, as the son of a career military man, I am glad to see that TP will not abide by this kind of disgusting ridicule of a soldier. Thank you.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:33 pmand remember, we are Virginia Gentlemen at all times.
Comment by Mr. President
Except when you’re wearing your moms’ dresses, and then, you’re Virgina Ladies!
July 14th, 2007 at 9:34 pm“we are Virginia Gentlemen at all times.”
And how’s the religious theocracy taste today? Looks like the experiment in democracy has yielded tangible results: Iraqi legislators are emulating their American counterparts – all while more soldiers die, daily.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:36 pmNo! That’s great! That means that TP was watching and as soon as Mr. P posted as the soldier again, they zapped him!
Thank you TP!!!!!!!
Comment by willyloman
I meant the troll. :)
Did you see the reply I got from Faiz at #93?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:36 pmIs this an example of success in Iraq?
Comment by barfly — July 14, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
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No, it is an example of an Iraqi recess.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:38 pmComment by Zooey
That’s good. i hadn’t seen that yet. I hope they stick to it.
From the looks of this though, they are monitoring these guys better.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:38 pmWell, I guess that answers the question as to who was posting those disgusting comments yesterday.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:40 pmWell, I guess that answers the question as to who was posting those disgusting comments yesterday.
Comment by willyloman
Yep, The Joker & Flaco.
Losers.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:42 pmNo, it is an example of an Iraqi recess.
Comment by Mr. President
Pithy comeback.
I’m sure the families of soldiers killed while these “leaders” vacation will find it very amusing…
July 14th, 2007 at 9:44 pmComment by barfly — July 14, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
That government is corrupt, more needs to be done to deprogram them.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:47 pmWhy would the White House criticize the Parliment vacation? That’s what they want; more time.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:48 pmI wouldn’t blame Flaco just yet, give him a chance to show up on Monday.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:49 pmSo what if the Iraqi Govt. goes on vacation. Does anyone think they will come back, after talking to their constituents, with a solution to the ethnic divide in Iraq???
July 14th, 2007 at 9:50 pmAfter 5 years, their position is still ” I’m for me and mine”.
I just hope they will unite in un-inviting us to stay in their country. Maybe if the Sunnis realize that the Shiites are the majority, and quite capable of winning a bloody civil war, the Sunnis will kick out al Qaeda and stop their suicide bombers from attacking innocent civilians in the markets and mosques.
“That government is corrupt, more needs to be done to deprogram them.”
Comment by Mr. President
You were talking about the Iraqis, right?
‘Cause that statement could be considered valid here, as well.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:53 pmI wouldn’t blame Flaco just yet, give him a chance to show up on Monday.
Comment by Mr. President
I know you don’t. I doubt you blame The Joker either. Sorry he got caught?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:53 pmI just hope they will unite in un-inviting us to stay in their country. Comment by Badger
I think Maliki’s recent statement will go along way to “emboldening” the rest to take a stand.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:54 pmMaybe if the Sunnis realize that the Shiites are the majority, and quite capable of winning a bloody civil war, the Sunnis will kick out al Qaeda and stop their suicide bombers from attacking innocent civilians in the markets and mosques.
Comment by Badger
Might help if Herr Bru$ch would stop arming them… wait a minute, it was Sunnis that attacked us on 9/11… this gets so confusing…
July 14th, 2007 at 9:55 pmI doubt you blame The Joker either. Sorry he got caught?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:56 pmComment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
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I could tell instantly that it was The Joker. I even mention it to CT on this very thread. Flaco doesn’t do that sort of thing, he is very patriotic and easy going.
“Might help if Herr Bru$ch would stop arming them… wait a minute, it was Sunnis that attacked us on 9/11… this gets so confusing…”
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Ever wonder how much of that $45 million Bush gave the Taliban has been used to purchase weapons to use against us?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:57 pmMight help if Herr Bru$ch would stop arming them… wait a minute, it was Sunnis that attacked us on 9/11… this gets so confusing…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Wait a minute. I thought Saddam atacked us?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:58 pmSorry he got caught?
Comment by Zooey
Just sorry that he got caught wearing his mom’s dress. It’s embarrasssing, ya know. Mocking dead American soldiers? Nothing to be embarrassed about there. Outted for being a cross-dressing fruitcake? Now, THAT’s embarrassing.
I can just hear it now… But… but TRudi did it too!
July 14th, 2007 at 9:58 pmComment by barfly — July 14, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
I agree… Congress is out of control!
… you’re trying to bait me now, aren’t you?
July 14th, 2007 at 9:59 pmEver wonder how much of that $45 million Bush gave the Taliban has been used to purchase weapons to use against us?
Comment by barfly
You’re unclear on the concept, barfly. The Taliban uses their DRUG money to buy guns, or they get them for free from the Pakis, after we give them to the Pakis, for free, to help us, ahem, “fight terror”…
July 14th, 2007 at 10:00 pmI could tell instantly that it was The Joker.
Comment by Mr. President
But you weren’t there Mr. P. Remember?
But who did it again 10 minutes ago? before it got wiped out? The Joker? He’s not here.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:00 pm… you’re trying to bait me now, aren’t you?
Comment by Mr. President
I’m still waiting for your reply to post 110. Tap… tap… tap…
July 14th, 2007 at 10:01 pmBut who did it again 10 minutes ago? before it got wiped out? The Joker? He’s not here.
Comment by willyloman
Nice work, Salesman… you’re hoisting the fool on his own petard!
July 14th, 2007 at 10:01 pmJust sorry that he got caught wearing his mom’s dress.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Better than the time he got caught sniffing her underwear
July 14th, 2007 at 10:02 pmTRoS???
#110
Comment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 9:23 pm???
This is not directed toward me, nor is it from you.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:02 pmI could tell instantly that it was The Joker. I even mention it to CT on this very thread. Flaco doesn’t do that sort of thing, he is very patriotic and easy going.
Comment by Mr. President
I knew it was The Joker as well, but he wasn’t alone.
Yeah, easygoing — especially around women. Not.
I wouldn’t be surprised if your little pet is gone.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:02 pmThis is not directed toward me, nor is it from you.
Comment by Mr. President
Good god, you twit. It is too ,and I posted it. Geez, talk about clueless…
July 14th, 2007 at 10:04 pmPetard as a mortar like device or a animal trap? I’m guessing animal trap. Very appropriate
July 14th, 2007 at 10:04 pmComment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
All I know is that I was the one who most were blaming, so I am not going to accuse or condemn anyone until I have more info.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:06 pmMr. P? would you like to answer how The Joker got back in here for the few posts that were just removed in the name of the fallen soldier?
Mr. P?
you should be perminately banned for such a truely horrendous act.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:08 pmPlease ignore my posts. You’re an authoritarian lefty.
Comment by CT_V1
Heh. Will do.
I don’t like talking to the wilfully stupid.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:08 pmI’ve got to admit this is one of the few respects in which the Busheviks haven’t been acting hypocritically. I mean, how could Dumbya with a straight face criticize the Iraqi lawmakers for going on vacation, when one considers that he by far holds the record for the most vacation-time taken by a US president?
July 14th, 2007 at 10:08 pmVery appropriate
Comment by willyloman
A petard is a small cannon. To be hoisted on your own petard is to be fired off of your own cannon (a fatal act…). I believe the “hoisted on his petard” is from Shakespeare, or at the very least, Elizabethan England.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:09 pmHamlet, act III, scene 4, lines 206 and 207: “For ’tis sport to have the engineer/ Hoist with his own petar….”
July 14th, 2007 at 10:12 pmGoodnight TRoS & Willy.
I’ll check in periodically. Have a nice time bashing the morons. :)
July 14th, 2007 at 10:12 pmI could tell instantly that it was The Joker.
Comment by Mr. President
But you weren’t there Mr. P. Remember?
But who did it again 10 minutes ago? before it got wiped out? The Joker? He’s not here.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:13 pmshouldn’t our soldiers get a vacation? just a suggestion.
Comment by joe cantwell — July 14, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
No, according to the 40-some Republiscum Senators and Joe Liarman who voted agains the Webb amendment, soldiers don’t deserve vacation–only chickenhawks do!
July 14th, 2007 at 10:13 pmnight Zooey
July 14th, 2007 at 10:13 pmNo, according to the 40-some Republiscum Senators and Joe Liarman who voted agains the Webb amendment, soldiers don’t deserve vacation–only chickenhawks do!
Comment by Lora
That’s a good point. The Iraqi parliment can take a vacation, but the troops cannot?
July 14th, 2007 at 10:15 pmWhat’s funny Mr. P is that you don’t even ask about what I am talking about since TP removed the posts and you only got back after they were gone.
Isn’t that funny Mr. P?
July 14th, 2007 at 10:18 pmJust great — the Iraqi Parliament will go on vacation in August. This may be the news that tips the scales of Am public opinion on Bush’s disastrous War. The US Congress also plans to vacation in August, despite the fact that our troops are stuck in a quagmire with no plan or strategy from DC.
Here’s an idea to follow McConnell’s certain FILIBUSTERof the Levin – Reed Amendment:
July 14th, 2007 at 10:19 pmNO vacation for Congress if McConnell filibusters this amendment. Hold his feet to the fire. Demand action on Iraq and a plan to end the War.
Good Evening all, and thanks for the support.
The WH can’t criticize the vacation because the lawmakers will be vacationing in Crawford, TX.
Meanwhile after 15-18 months of non-stop combat Soldiers get 15-16 days. Even though some units try to give more or maybe let some go home twice its just not possible to do, everyone wont get a chance.
But those who lose a limb or their life, well they get to leave for good, while those in WA get to fly first-class to their summer homes, or play golf in Scotland with the lobbyists that are really running this country.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Died so that others would have the right or freedoms to mock his death.
And known to the POTUS, his enablers, apologist, disciples, and supporters as comma #1462
16 July would have been his 30th birthday and I will NEVER forget him nor will I EVER stop displaying his name.
EVER
July 14th, 2007 at 10:26 pmJust one day after the Iraqi government received failing marks in President Bush’s surge interim progress report, Americans learned that the Iraqi parliament is proceeding with its plans to take off the month of August. But while the American people may be up in arms, President Bush’s amen corner is predictably silent. After all, given Bush’s own record-setting penchant for vacationing during crises here at home, Republicans are understandably reticent to criticize the absentee government in Baghdad.
For the details, ee:
July 14th, 2007 at 10:26 pm“Republicans Quiet on Iraqi – and Bush – Vacations.”
Isn’t that funny Mr. P?
Comment by willyloman
Since he won’t answer it, apparently not. Yes, indeed, Shakespeare!
I too am going out for the night, but I feel quite safe leaving you in charge of the Troll Patrol, good Salesman! See you tomorrow!
July 14th, 2007 at 10:28 pmI too am going out for the night, but I feel quite safe leaving you in charge of the Troll Patrol, good Salesman! See you tomorrow!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Thank you. “And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.”
Good to hear from you again, Tired of Fighting. It is obscene that the law-makers here and there are both carrying on as if it is business as usual, as the soldiers endure the summer heat of Iraq.
I hope you have noticed that the administrators here have stricken those comments that were most offensive to the memory of SGT Stephen R. Sherman and one of the posters is gone. We will contiue to work on the other, as you can see above.
I gather you are on leave and awaiting redeployment. I hope you are enjoying your leave.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:54 pmHey willy, I’ve been lurking for about an hour.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:03 pmAfter reading the posts, and seeing that TP is whacking the joker in all his aliased forms, I’m encouraged.
As a Nam vet, I just can’t hang around when my fellow soldier’s name is being trampled by any troll.
As for Mr. Pee, he is a dilemma. Sometimes he seems to be begging for compainionship, and at other times he’s the masked nightmare troll, morphing from one jackass to another.
I don’t mind trolls who want to discuss issues, but they seem to be interested only in hijacking, diverting, abusing and bullshitting, not in any particular order.
I love KOS’s method of bestowing trusted user status and allowing those entrusted to flat out ban the idiots.
Thx willyloman,
I am on leave and I am enjoying myself. My daughter will be leaving for the Air Force Academy this year, so we are having a ball right now.
As for the the “others”, I am above that, I mean I can’t do anything about that, what am I gonna do punch my monitor? Naw, but I do know that none of them would EVER say anything like that to my face, believe me my demeanor is legendary, so let them talk because the truth hurts.
But I truly appreciate your efforts, and all who were upset by what happened who spoke out against it.
Well let me get back to beating my daughter in MLB 2K7
And you take care, and I’ll be back.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Or as the POTUS calls him,, comma #1462
July 14th, 2007 at 11:08 pmOr as the POTUS calls him,, comma #1462
Comment by Tired Of Fighting
My guess is that the memory of your family was attacked becuz people who supported or are still supporting this occupation are so desperate to relief their frustration that they will employ any strategy to divert discussion. More people is realizing the incredible fiasco and immorality of US admin´s actions, like the German people after WWII. And they are getting desperate, lowering the bar as much as possible…or impossible.
July 14th, 2007 at 11:48 pmComment by RUCerious
I am glad to see a post from you. I hope to see more. Yes that would be a good suggestion to hit TP with. Zooey posted a response she received from Faiz, and it sounds like they mean to clean this up.
Comment by Tired Of Fighting Don’t kid yourself, you know you can’t beat her at a video game. Reflexes aren’t what they used to be.
Comment by Juan C You’re right. They are getting desperate and after so many years of being right, they are starting to understand that this is all a lie, and that has to be hard for anybody. I don’t begrudge them that at all.
But yesterday was way over the line. Maybe those responcible know that now. Let us hope.
July 15th, 2007 at 12:21 amIt is unacceptable that while our soldiers are dying everyday the Iraqi parliament members are going to take a vacation. It is unconscionable that the White House and conservatives in Congress are silent on this issue.
July 15th, 2007 at 12:56 amPerhaps time to give our troops a permanent vacation from the 130 degree heat of Iraq.
July 15th, 2007 at 1:02 amOr mayhaps Congress should defund the contractors, and require all support of US troops be done by using local Iraqis.
July 15th, 2007 at 1:39 amYeah, right.
Americans are pleased to hear that the Iraq leaders are having their vacation as our troops are killed by larger numbers. Look as the so called stolen $280 Million American dollars have been spread around to the US/Iraq it’s necessary for those people to spend the money. Who cares if our troops get killed at lease the GOP and the White House feel it’s no problem get over it move on. Americans will follow what ever Bush says even if he want to invaded another Middle East country for oil. We have money to burn.
July 15th, 2007 at 1:42 amand one of the posters is gone. We will contiue to work on the other, as you can see above.
I gather you are on leave and awaiting redeployment. I hope you are enjoying your leave.
Comment by willyloman
WOW! I’ve missed quite a bit, and I don’t mind. Seems some of the trolls were off-the-charts earlier (I didn’t notice if it was last night or early this morning). Last night Joker made a good number of extremely hateful comments about my son (although he intended them to be hurtful, i’m sure).
I’ve read most of the comments on the threads and see that Joker, and perhaps Mr. P now, will be taken to task for being a great deal more than just stupid.
Tire of Fighting,
I admire you for taking the Hard Right over the Easy Wrong. I’d like to think I also would not have sunk to the trolls level and spent a few hours just blasting away at them, but frankly, I’m not so certain I wouldn’t have.
willyloman,
Thanks for your efforts in calling them out.
I’m disheartened that their behavior has led to some of my favorite posters apparently abandoning TP. I hope that they will reconsider once TP gets on the stick and blocks posters who are intentionally offensive (like Joker was last night), not just ignorant or confrontational.
July 15th, 2007 at 1:44 amHey Sarge, thanks for your thoughts.
July 15th, 2007 at 1:49 amI was going to boycott, but decided I should continue to make my opinions heard.
The trolls aren’t gonna win this war. They did a good job of muddying up the battlefield last night, but TP will figure this out.
In case you’re interested, I’m chanbo over on KOS.
Tired of Fighting,
I was one of those who decided to no longer post at Think Progress because of the shocking, despicable act which was committed against you.
But I couldn’t help looking in to see how things were going.
Now I see that you have posted more inspirational words here, and have not run away (as you would have had every right to do). That is probably because you are a soldier, a brave man who does give up the fight, and does not turn his back on adversity.
I’m not much of a soldier myself.
It looks like TP is taking some action.
If you can take the putrid abuse that was vilely spewed at you, and continue with dignity, I, who was much less victimized, should be able to fight back as well.
Many wise souls have tried hard here to convince some of these trolls that there is more to life than hate. You have perhaps done more to advance that cause than anyone.
Thank you for your service and your patriotism.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Or as the POTUS calls him,, comma #1462
July 15th, 2007 at 1:53 amThe trolls aren’t gonna win this war. —– I agree, leaving TP to the trolls would be even MORE offensive than defending it.
They did a good job of muddying up the battlefield last night, but TP will figure this out. — I hope they get on it sooner rather than later.
In case you’re interested, I’m chanbo over on KOS. —- Cool, i’ll check it out.
Comment by RUCerious
July 15th, 2007 at 2:14 amWelcome Home TPers.
Been keeping your seats warm for you.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:26 amWell, it is a bit difficult to criticize the Iraqi government for taking a vacation just as he is about to take the month of August off himself. But, not before shortening the down time of our soldiers before their next tour of Baghdad, and extending their stays one more time. Hitler treated his soldiers better than this! And, American’s allow this to happen in the name of supporting our troops. We should all hang our heads in shame!
July 15th, 2007 at 2:27 amWhy do I get the feeling (some might even call it a “gut feeling”) that there will be a major insurgent attack on or an attack inside the Green Zone while the Iraqi legislators’ are on vacation during August?
Which strangely enough is the same month during which George W. Bush usually takes a month-long vacation at his compound in Crawford, like he did in August 2001 during the entire month preceding the 9/11 attacks.
Hmmm, and Michael Chertoff just stated that he had a “gut feeling” that the right-wing religious fundamentalist al Qaeda were going to attack somewhere inside America sometime this summer. Hmmm. Maybe in August while Bush is away from Washington vacationing in Crawford? Hmmm.
Or maybe Bush and Cheney are planning on bombing Iran in August, which will definitely and dramatically increase afterward the risk of a terrorist attack inside the United States. Which might explain Chertoff’s deliberately vague “gut feeling” comment the other day? Possibly laying the rhetorical groundwork (i.e. spin) for what Bush and Cheney are about to do, with completely predictable consequences?
Remember, March 2003 was chosen as the “right” time for the invasion of Iraq specifically for political reasons. That is, Bush was going to be up for reelection in November 2004, so they had to start the war far enough in advance for the neo-con Republican strategy (and timetable) to be implemented and completed.
Thus, all the grandiose claims by the neo-con Republicans that Iraq would be a cakewalk, our invading troops would be greeted with flowers and candy, setting up a democratic, representative government would be a snap, our troop levels in Iraq would be drawn down dramatically by the end of 2003, and that post-invasion, increased Iraqi oil revenues would pay for all of this.
In other words, the neo-cons thought that why should they bother even thinking about anything other than what they had planned for post-invasion Iraq. In their warped minds, by the time summer 2004 rolled around (and just prior to the November presidential elections), the new, Saddam-less, Baathist-less Iraq would be a shining example of the neo-cons’ brilliant war and nation-building strategy…which could be used in their Bush-reelection campaign propaganda.
Which brings us to 2007, the year before another presidential election that is scheduled next year for November 2008. If anything, the neo-con Republicans are consistent in their insanity. Which means that they are probably following the same game-plan for Iran that they followed prior to starting the Iraq War in 2003.
Troop deployments threatening Iran (carrier groups in the Persian Gulf, for example). Increased rhetoric about how dangerous Iran is to America, and American interests. Downplaying and dissing diplomacy as a way to resolve any disagreements. Ramping up the rhetoric (and fear factor) about how vulnerable the United States (and our “shopping malls”) are to a terrorist attack. And all for purely partisan political reasons.
And then add in the comment by a neo-con Israeli the other day about how Israel is prepared on a moment’s notice to bomb the crap out of Iran’s suspected nuclear facilities.
Yep, I have a distinctive “gut feeling” that Bush, Cheney and (some Israelis) are getting mighty anxious, apparently watching a window of warmongering opporturnity close. With Bush and Cheney (and Karl Rove) “strategerizing” that by attacking Iran this year, by next year’s November presidential election the “mission” will have been “accomplished” in Iran, and Republicans will have a flowers and candy, cakewalk of an election. Yeah, right.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:47 amIt may also that, with the winds of possible impeachment blowing ever louder and stronger, the time has come to wag the dog.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:53 amSorry for mixed metaphors.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:53 amComment by Egreggious
yeah….that’s at least one to many. Why am I awake? Oh yeah, I’m not drinking. I should do something about that. night.
July 15th, 2007 at 3:12 amAt the risk of being a little hypocritical, might I add one more comment regarding the disgusting spectacle that ensued after Tired of Fighting’s earlier post?
And this is directed to those trolls (and non-trolls) of military age who are so avid for this so-called war, for the death of all Muslims (good luck with that), for blood in exchange for oil, and who believe somehow they are waging this war at their sweat-soaked keyboards.
Sergeant Sherman might be alive today if you had been there at his side to defend him and fight alongside him. And if not Sherman, then perhaps another soldier, whose name–to our shame–none of us remembers.
The supporters of this war who are capable of fighting in it but are not doing so, are doubly cowardly and traitorous: first, by supporting this ridiculous war which brings nothing to our shores but disgrace and the caskets of fallen heroes; and second, by refusing to serve your country in a cause you believe so vital to its very existence.
If Daryll is right about this Hell where sinners burn eternally, then you shall surely be in it.
I think of my cousin, who took his life not so long ago.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Or as the POTUS calls him,, comma #1462
July 15th, 2007 at 4:10 amNot a single troll comment after Tired of Fighting’s post.
Maybe he’s our secret weapon.
Happy birthday, Sergeant Sherman. Wish you could be here to enjoy it with us.
July 15th, 2007 at 4:22 amNow, there’s an ole sayin in Texas. You can fool me once, but ah, well you can’t fix stupid. I mean, you don’t go woo-woo in your breakfast plate.
Why would I critize the Iraqi lawmakers taking a little vacation away from the spectatular job their doing on the eve of crafting the lil publicized oil law which will give ole Dick Cheney and me the rights to their oil for the next 35 years. I mean comeon, I had to invade the place, fight their little army, blow up their infrastructure, and put up with all these liberal nattering nabobs (hehehe, ya like that one Karl, hehehe), just to get this far in de-Nationalizing their oil. And after all that now that I’ve gotten the darn stuff de-Nationalized, you think I would criticize them Sand, ah I mean, our great oil givers, ah Iraqi lawmakin partners. I told ya’ll, I’m the great uniter. Hehehe, I just luv bein Prezzy.
July 15th, 2007 at 8:01 amTOUGH TALK ON IMPEACHMENT
A very important discussion with Bill Moyers on the necessity of impeaching the two men who would be king, Dick Cheney and George Bush.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/profile.html
July 15th, 2007 at 8:48 amWelcome Home TPers.
Been keeping your seats warm for you.
Comment by willyloman — July 15, 2007 @ 2:26 am
Ok. You, Egreggious and Sgt Higgins convinced me. I’m back.
July 15th, 2007 at 10:28 amBush is afraid that if he criticizes the Iraqi parliament for taking a month long vacation, they may come back from vacation and cut us out of the oil revenue sharing bill. This is really what they should do. They should come up with a law that shares the oil amongst the people of Iraq only. Why should we get a share of their oil profits? Is it supposed to be a reward for our having completely destroyed the infrastructure of their country and causing thousands of innocent Iraqi deaths? I am confused as to why we should be rewarded for turning their country into the hell hole it is today.
But, then, the Republic world…up is down, black is white, occupiers are saviors.
July 15th, 2007 at 11:32 amOn CNN’s Late Edition, Suzanne Malveaux just asked Stephen Hadley about whether they were asking the Iraqi Parliament to cancel their August vacation. His answer was that the administration would continue pushing reconciliation during August, whatever that means. Pushing reconciliation is not the same as asking the Iraqi Parliament to cancel it’s August vacation. Stephen Hadley ducked Suzanne Malveaux’s question twice using that technique. Suzanne Malveaux should have called him on it, at least the second time he did it. I wonder if Wolf Blizer would have done any better. The press isn’t very good at calling politicians on their misdirection.
July 15th, 2007 at 11:47 amOk. You, Egreggious and Sgt Higgins convinced me. I’m back.
Comment by Zooey
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July 15th, 2007 at 10:51 pm