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	<title>Comments on: Bush to veto children&#8217;s health insurance expansion.</title>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3950816</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/wm1548.cfm for a better explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See <a href="http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/wm1548.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/wm1548.cfm</a> for a better explanation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3950816', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltinTexas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3938431</link>
		<dc:creator>WaltinTexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Republican friends don&#039;t have their hands deep in the cookie jar with the legislation, the legislation has no chance of surviving a veto with an industry puppet like Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Republican friends don&#8217;t have their hands deep in the cookie jar with the legislation, the legislation has no chance of surviving a veto with an industry puppet like Bush.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3938431', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3938404</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#4 Excellent!

Comment by m12 â€” July 15, 2007 @ 12:16 am&lt;/em&gt;

Somehow, the picture of Mr. Burns (The Simpsons) is clearly present in my mind now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>#4 Excellent!</p>
<p>Comment by m12 â€” July 15, 2007 @ 12:16 am</em></p>
<p>Somehow, the picture of Mr. Burns (The Simpsons) is clearly present in my mind now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3938404', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: m12</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3937924</link>
		<dc:creator>m12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bush has literally chosen the financial interests of health insurance companies over the needs of 4.1 million children. And he justifies it by saying he doesnâ€™t want to raise a tax on cigarrettes?&lt;/i&gt;

Of course! Why should we raise the tax on cigarrettes? Take that money out of Medicare!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bush has literally chosen the financial interests of health insurance companies over the needs of 4.1 million children. And he justifies it by saying he doesnâ€™t want to raise a tax on cigarrettes?</i></p>
<p>Of course! Why should we raise the tax on cigarrettes? Take that money out of Medicare!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937924', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3937567</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Bush will veto this &quot;support the children of America&quot; bill.

In the warped and twisted Bush, Rove and Grover Norquist way of thinking, any taxpayer money spent on helping our nation&#039;s children would be a waste of taxpayer money.

On the other hand, any taxpayer money going to their neo-con Republican corporate pals through no-bid contracts is money well spent.

The Bush war in Iraq is a prime example.

Report after report indicates that our soldiers in Iraq have been shortchanged over and over again, while private contract security companies have gotten all that they have requested and in a timely fashion.

The only positive thing that can be said about these neo-con nutjobs in the Bush administration is that they are consistent.

Given a choice between helping and supporting our troops, or helping their crony corporate pals, they&#039;ll also choose their crony corporate pals.

Given a choice between helping and supporting the children of America, or helping their crony corporate pals through tax cuts and no-bid contracts, they&#039;ll always choose helping their crony corporate pals.

No flexibility. No compromises. No compassion at all for anyone that is not part of their inner-circle of crony corporate pals.

In other words, I have just summed up the entire domestic and foreign policy of the Bush administration. You&#039;re &quot;with them&quot; if you&#039;re part of their crony corporate pal structure, and you&#039;re &quot;against them&quot; if one isn&#039;t a member of this inner-circle of privilege and elitism. (Sounds more aristocratic than American to me. The &quot;loyalists&quot; of the Bush Imperial Presidency holding court in the White House are making out like bandits, while everyone else is being left to fight over the crumbs that might &quot;trickle down&quot; after Bush loyalists have divided up the lion&#039;s share).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Bush will veto this &#8220;support the children of America&#8221; bill.</p>
<p>In the warped and twisted Bush, Rove and Grover Norquist way of thinking, any taxpayer money spent on helping our nation&#8217;s children would be a waste of taxpayer money.</p>
<p>On the other hand, any taxpayer money going to their neo-con Republican corporate pals through no-bid contracts is money well spent.</p>
<p>The Bush war in Iraq is a prime example.</p>
<p>Report after report indicates that our soldiers in Iraq have been shortchanged over and over again, while private contract security companies have gotten all that they have requested and in a timely fashion.</p>
<p>The only positive thing that can be said about these neo-con nutjobs in the Bush administration is that they are consistent.</p>
<p>Given a choice between helping and supporting our troops, or helping their crony corporate pals, they&#8217;ll also choose their crony corporate pals.</p>
<p>Given a choice between helping and supporting the children of America, or helping their crony corporate pals through tax cuts and no-bid contracts, they&#8217;ll always choose helping their crony corporate pals.</p>
<p>No flexibility. No compromises. No compassion at all for anyone that is not part of their inner-circle of crony corporate pals.</p>
<p>In other words, I have just summed up the entire domestic and foreign policy of the Bush administration. You&#8217;re &#8220;with them&#8221; if you&#8217;re part of their crony corporate pal structure, and you&#8217;re &#8220;against them&#8221; if one isn&#8217;t a member of this inner-circle of privilege and elitism. (Sounds more aristocratic than American to me. The &#8220;loyalists&#8221; of the Bush Imperial Presidency holding court in the White House are making out like bandits, while everyone else is being left to fight over the crumbs that might &#8220;trickle down&#8221; after Bush loyalists have divided up the lion&#8217;s share).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937567', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: willyloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>willyloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this is appropriate, and I hope it isn&#039;t taken the wrong way by Tired of Fighting....

but since his very personal posting I thought it would be respectful to visit his fallen friends memorial.

I found it on the net, and feel that if any of you feel the same way, here is the link... 

http://www.legacy.com/Soldier/Story.aspx?PersonID=3130083

I am so glad Tired of Fighting posted here. Bush keeps us from seeing the tributes to the fallen on tv and in the papers because he knows it will make these &quot;commas&quot; real people and that will hasten this countries resolve to ending this.

It is in the spirit of putting a face with the name that I give you this link. In hopes that the reality of it sinks into some. Out of respect for the man that I did not know and his friend, Tired of Fighting, I hope this doesn&#039;t overreach my limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this is appropriate, and I hope it isn&#8217;t taken the wrong way by Tired of Fighting&#8230;.</p>
<p>but since his very personal posting I thought it would be respectful to visit his fallen friends memorial.</p>
<p>I found it on the net, and feel that if any of you feel the same way, here is the link&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.legacy.com/Soldier/Story.aspx?PersonID=3130083" rel="nofollow">http://www.legacy.com/Soldier/Story.aspx?PersonID=3130083</a></p>
<p>I am so glad Tired of Fighting posted here. Bush keeps us from seeing the tributes to the fallen on tv and in the papers because he knows it will make these &#8220;commas&#8221; real people and that will hasten this countries resolve to ending this.</p>
<p>It is in the spirit of putting a face with the name that I give you this link. In hopes that the reality of it sinks into some. Out of respect for the man that I did not know and his friend, Tired of Fighting, I hope this doesn&#8217;t overreach my limits.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937277', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kasinca</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3937194</link>
		<dc:creator>kasinca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the fetus and profits of the HMOs but hate the children...that is the Republic way...sorry, no good for anything, thugs of a crime family...the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the fetus and profits of the HMOs but hate the children&#8230;that is the Republic way&#8230;sorry, no good for anything, thugs of a crime family&#8230;the GOP.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937194', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3937174</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a cynical point of view, the wealthy will always be able to provide adequate health care for their children -- the middle class and the poor will never be able to do so.  Ergo, the middle class and poor will diminish in numbers while the elite will dominate.

Every plan and policy and program promoted by Bush&amp;Co can and should be viewed as to how this will affect the middle class and who will benefit today and tomorrow.

There is a grand plan carefully being laid in place.  And when we finally awaken to it, it will be too late to reverse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a cynical point of view, the wealthy will always be able to provide adequate health care for their children &#8212; the middle class and the poor will never be able to do so.  Ergo, the middle class and poor will diminish in numbers while the elite will dominate.</p>
<p>Every plan and policy and program promoted by Bush&amp;Co can and should be viewed as to how this will affect the middle class and who will benefit today and tomorrow.</p>
<p>There is a grand plan carefully being laid in place.  And when we finally awaken to it, it will be too late to reverse.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937174', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3937173</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that I am a socialist at heart.  I believe that any industry that affects our ability to live our lives in peace and prosperity should be nationalized.  This would mean all utilities we cannot live without and, of course, health care.  We are the only industrialized nation that thinks health care is a privilege and not a right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that I am a socialist at heart.  I believe that any industry that affects our ability to live our lives in peace and prosperity should be nationalized.  This would mean all utilities we cannot live without and, of course, health care.  We are the only industrialized nation that thinks health care is a privilege and not a right.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937173', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3937170</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;After all, these would be â€˜poorâ€™ kids. And if they grow up, theyâ€™ll probably vote Dem. So screw em, right, trolls?
Comment by RUCerious&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

No, if they grow up they will become cannon fodder.  I am surprised that the Republics don&#039;t want to take very good medical care of these poor kids.  If they don&#039;t make it to adulthood or make it in poor physical condition, where are they going to get their future recruits for whatever new war the Republics want to get us into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;After all, these would be â€˜poorâ€™ kids. And if they grow up, theyâ€™ll probably vote Dem. So screw em, right, trolls?<br />
Comment by RUCerious&#8221;</em></p>
<p>No, if they grow up they will become cannon fodder.  I am surprised that the Republics don&#8217;t want to take very good medical care of these poor kids.  If they don&#8217;t make it to adulthood or make it in poor physical condition, where are they going to get their future recruits for whatever new war the Republics want to get us into.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937170', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3937168</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Americans can and will relate to SICKO -- we have all been affected in ways similar to Moore&#039;s documentary portrays.

If we were to eliminate the middle-men-- the profit-driven insurance companies who hire &quot;experts&quot; to determine how your doctor can practice medicine on you, and big pharma (why do they advertise their prescription drugs to the public in the first place?) and add up what we all pay for ever-increasing insurance premiums, deductibles and co-pays for ever-decreasing insurance reimbursement than we think we are getting -- we would have all the funds we need for health care for every American.

Eliminating the profiteers in the insurance who make their money on us when we are sick and vulnerable will be extremely difficult - no doubt - but until they are eliminated from the equation, I don&#039;t see any improvement on the horizon.

SICKO, however, may provide impetus for a ground swell against the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Americans can and will relate to SICKO &#8212; we have all been affected in ways similar to Moore&#8217;s documentary portrays.</p>
<p>If we were to eliminate the middle-men&#8211; the profit-driven insurance companies who hire &#8220;experts&#8221; to determine how your doctor can practice medicine on you, and big pharma (why do they advertise their prescription drugs to the public in the first place?) and add up what we all pay for ever-increasing insurance premiums, deductibles and co-pays for ever-decreasing insurance reimbursement than we think we are getting &#8212; we would have all the funds we need for health care for every American.</p>
<p>Eliminating the profiteers in the insurance who make their money on us when we are sick and vulnerable will be extremely difficult &#8211; no doubt &#8211; but until they are eliminated from the equation, I don&#8217;t see any improvement on the horizon.</p>
<p>SICKO, however, may provide impetus for a ground swell against the system.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937168', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jane E. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-3/#comment-3937148</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane E. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On the other hand, impeaching Cheney should be on the table.&quot;
Comment by CaptainVideo â€” July 15, 2007 @ 11:52 am

AG Gonzales first (he&#039;s easiest), Cheney second, then Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On the other hand, impeaching Cheney should be on the table.&#8221;<br />
Comment by CaptainVideo â€” July 15, 2007 @ 11:52 am</p>
<p>AG Gonzales first (he&#8217;s easiest), Cheney second, then Bush.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937148', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: CaptainVideo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-2/#comment-3937110</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptainVideo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impeaching Bush has to be off the table as long as the evil Dick Cheney is Vice President. As bad as Bush is, a President Cheney would be a lot worse. This would get us out of the frying pan and into the fire.

On the other hand, impeaching Cheney should be on the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impeaching Bush has to be off the table as long as the evil Dick Cheney is Vice President. As bad as Bush is, a President Cheney would be a lot worse. This would get us out of the frying pan and into the fire.</p>
<p>On the other hand, impeaching Cheney should be on the table.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937110', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-2/#comment-3937082</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What else would you expect from a male cheerleader, cocaine-sniffing, drunk-driving, always bailed-out-by-daddy, pampered, bribed, and manipulated, irresponsible, everyone-else-but-his-cronies-are-accountable, phoney who values stale frozen embryos over live people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What else would you expect from a male cheerleader, cocaine-sniffing, drunk-driving, always bailed-out-by-daddy, pampered, bribed, and manipulated, irresponsible, everyone-else-but-his-cronies-are-accountable, phoney who values stale frozen embryos over live people?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937082', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: aquarius2</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/15/bush-to-veto-childrens-health-insurance-expansion/comment-page-2/#comment-3937075</link>
		<dc:creator>aquarius2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funding for this act is to be derived from adding a 61 cents per pack tax to cigarettes.  Now, I don&#039;t care how you feel about smoking but this is ludicrous and unfair.   More and more people are quitting smoking, therefore revenues are going to decrease over time, who pays for the program then?  Why should the government rely solely on smokers to fund their programs, why not tax drinkers?  Or for that matter why tax anyone, just get the hell out of Iraq and use the money here in the USA for the benefit of all Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funding for this act is to be derived from adding a 61 cents per pack tax to cigarettes.  Now, I don&#8217;t care how you feel about smoking but this is ludicrous and unfair.   More and more people are quitting smoking, therefore revenues are going to decrease over time, who pays for the program then?  Why should the government rely solely on smokers to fund their programs, why not tax drinkers?  Or for that matter why tax anyone, just get the hell out of Iraq and use the money here in the USA for the benefit of all Americans.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937075', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Johnsnottoodistracted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnsnottoodistracted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a simple one for them: the kids don&#039;t vote so who cares?
And they will have no votes when the grow up either as we all continue doing the rovian shuffle.

We might want to pay attention to all the bombing in the gigantic mess over the last few months.The exit strategy may be stall until there is nothing left except the green area and the u.s. bases.
At that point the only need is to guard the loot.
That&#039;s doing it the vp&#039;s way!
That&#039;ll get both sides of his lip to move.
Man o man?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a simple one for them: the kids don&#8217;t vote so who cares?<br />
And they will have no votes when the grow up either as we all continue doing the rovian shuffle.</p>
<p>We might want to pay attention to all the bombing in the gigantic mess over the last few months.The exit strategy may be stall until there is nothing left except the green area and the u.s. bases.<br />
At that point the only need is to guard the loot.<br />
That&#8217;s doing it the vp&#8217;s way!<br />
That&#8217;ll get both sides of his lip to move.<br />
Man o man?????<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937012', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hawkeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawkeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s official. George Bush isn&#039;t really stupid...he&#039;s just evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s official. George Bush isn&#8217;t really stupid&#8230;he&#8217;s just evil.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937011', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Loblaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Loblaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1/20/09: The end of an error...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1/20/09: The end of an error&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937005', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Gorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Gorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lurker Dude

From the political viewpoint impeachment is a good idea:

The time for being cowardice is over. Realise that if after all that has happened the Republicans win in 2008 the Democrats are dead as a party and they will never rise again.

Currently the Democrats are going to lose. The Democrats did not win in 2006. The Republicans lost on a record of corruption, absanteeism, graft and stupidity. The Republicans lost in 2006 because ulitmately the mass majority of Americans are just liberal enough to recognise that you get rid of your worthless employees - and that your government official is still &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; employee.

The trouble is that the Democrats and the Republicans have sold America on there only being two real parties to vote for. Amongst the less passionate of America&#039;s population, those who turned out in 2006 because they were sick to death of Republican corruption, amongst them it must be established that the Democrats and the Republicans are two different parties. 

This means impeachment, because what sickened that majority most about the Republicans was the lack of oversight, and the precedent being set by the president. 

If they do not see honest, enforcement of oversight, if they do not see impeachment back on the table, you lose in 2008 because they will mostly not vote, and you will lose your base to the smaller parties.

This is the lesson the Democrats did not learn in 2000. The Greens didn&#039;t steal Democrat votes, liberals are free to vote for whoever they want and the Democrats took those liberals for granted and pissed away those votes while trying to look as conservative as the Republicans. You play to your base, then you go for the middle.

The Democrats need a solid demonstration that they will stand for the law, for the basic minimums upon which society agrees. It can look like a consequence of Bush claiming executive priveledge (A right which has not been tested and may well not exist) and blocking investigations into the Whitehouse, it can be seen as being retaliatory, but it must be seen. 

Without impeachment on the table, looming large the Democrats will look just like the Republicans and that is the image which lost you the presidency and both houses of Congress before 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lurker Dude</p>
<p>From the political viewpoint impeachment is a good idea:</p>
<p>The time for being cowardice is over. Realise that if after all that has happened the Republicans win in 2008 the Democrats are dead as a party and they will never rise again.</p>
<p>Currently the Democrats are going to lose. The Democrats did not win in 2006. The Republicans lost on a record of corruption, absanteeism, graft and stupidity. The Republicans lost in 2006 because ulitmately the mass majority of Americans are just liberal enough to recognise that you get rid of your worthless employees &#8211; and that your government official is still <em>your</em> employee.</p>
<p>The trouble is that the Democrats and the Republicans have sold America on there only being two real parties to vote for. Amongst the less passionate of America&#8217;s population, those who turned out in 2006 because they were sick to death of Republican corruption, amongst them it must be established that the Democrats and the Republicans are two different parties. </p>
<p>This means impeachment, because what sickened that majority most about the Republicans was the lack of oversight, and the precedent being set by the president. </p>
<p>If they do not see honest, enforcement of oversight, if they do not see impeachment back on the table, you lose in 2008 because they will mostly not vote, and you will lose your base to the smaller parties.</p>
<p>This is the lesson the Democrats did not learn in 2000. The Greens didn&#8217;t steal Democrat votes, liberals are free to vote for whoever they want and the Democrats took those liberals for granted and pissed away those votes while trying to look as conservative as the Republicans. You play to your base, then you go for the middle.</p>
<p>The Democrats need a solid demonstration that they will stand for the law, for the basic minimums upon which society agrees. It can look like a consequence of Bush claiming executive priveledge (A right which has not been tested and may well not exist) and blocking investigations into the Whitehouse, it can be seen as being retaliatory, but it must be seen. </p>
<p>Without impeachment on the table, looming large the Democrats will look just like the Republicans and that is the image which lost you the presidency and both houses of Congress before 2006.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937003', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: willyloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>willyloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Quite possibly, willy. But we should move still forward. These criminals cannot be allowed to hold us hostage anymore.

Comment by Zooey &lt;/em&gt;

Absolutely. I wonder if the charge of Treason would remove their ability to command troops immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Quite possibly, willy. But we should move still forward. These criminals cannot be allowed to hold us hostage anymore.</p>
<p>Comment by Zooey </em></p>
<p>Absolutely. I wonder if the charge of Treason would remove their ability to command troops immediately.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3937001', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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