Comment by Lora — July 24, 2007 @ 2:47 am

“I already established that I graduated from high school in a time of peace, when military recruits are not as needed as they are during a war.”

The fact that there was peace when you could have joined is IRRELEVANT, Get it? The miltary wasn’t going to turn you down during peace time. Hell, during a time of peace when there wasn’t a war for you to protest you had even less of a good reason not to join. So during a time of peace, when your little ass wouldn’t be in danger because of an on going war, why didn’t you join the military to serve your country? I have confessed that my reason was lame…what’s your’s?

Do you think that your excuse not to join was legitimate? Answer that

BTW when I could have joined right after highschool, the U.S. wasn’t engaged in any war, same as it was for you. Also I think you are under the dilusion that being in the military during a time of peace means that you wouldn’t be deployed for extended periods of time. That’s utter nonsense. Just because the U.S. isn’t at war doesn’t mean that it’s active duty members are deployed for long periods of time.

“You yourself also had the physical capacity upon high school graduation (and still have it) and didn’t join, did you?”

No I didn’t join right after highschool and have explained MULTIPLE times that me joining that military would require me to be seperated from my family, i.e. wife and kids. First of all being an USAF officer (I wasn’t going to be enlisted) would require a college degree that would take a minimum of four years. After that officers are required to serve a minimum of six years. This meant that I wouldn’t be out of the military untill I was 30 years old. Well for me, waiting till I was 30 to get married/have children wasn’t something I was willing to do. Lame reason? Probably. I will admit it.

God, are you stupid and repetitive! I already established that I graduated from high school in a time of peace, when military recruits are not as needed as they are during a war. You yourself also had the physical capacity upon high school graduation (and still have it) and didn’t join, did you? So just STFU already, hypocritical jerk/chickenhawk twit. You are a cosmic bore!

Comment by Lora — July 23, 2007 @ 7:43 am

“I noticed on the Senator and Mrs. Vitter thread that Wayne, a veteran BTW, made a crack about your wife paying him for sex. Most married men I know would be livid about a remark like that, but you just passed it off as a joke.”

But he was joking. I already gave him the same opportunity I gave Bartlebee to meet me somewhere to discuss his mouth. I never heard back from either of them.

“Or else your blog persona of being a young married man with kids is a big lie.”

It’s not a lie.

“Here’s a big question: if you have never denied being a chickenhawk (July 17), why aren’t others in a position to call you one (July 22)?”

They are in a position to do so and I haven’t said that aren’t.

Comment by Lora — July 22, 2007 @ 10:09 pm

“There is absolutely nothing hypocritical about a person who doesn’t support the war not volunteering for the military…”

There is when you specifically could have joined well before the 2003 Iraq invasion. Remember you disability, age, or both nixed your ability to join in 2003, not just your personal objections to the Iraq invasion. When you had the ablility to join after highschool what “war” was the U.S. engaged in that made you say “no”?

“but you apparently think you alone are in the position to call people “cowards.””

But you are a coward. You didn’t join when you have the physical ability just after highschool. You STILL haven’t given a legitimate answer.

Do you want to know what really speaks volumes about you, Tracy Chickenhawk? I noticed on the Senator and Mrs. Vitter thread that Wayne, a veteran BTW, made a crack about your wife paying him for sex. Most married men I know would be livid about a remark like that, but you just passed it off as a joke. On the other hand, you’ve been ranting through various threads about being called a “chickenhawk,” “coward,” etc. Therefore, one can conclude that either you are so self-centered that you worry more about your own image than that of the wife you claim you “don’t want to be separated from for an extended period of time.” Or else your blog persona of being a young married man with kids is a big lie.

“it is too late to retract your own outing as a chickenhawk.”
I have never denied it, so you would be advised not to mention it again.
Comment by Tracy — July 17, 2007 @ 5:40 pm

Tracy, TP’s resident Chickenhawk,
Here’s a big question: if you have never denied being a chickenhawk (July 17), why aren’t others in a position to call you one (July 22)?

There is absolutely nothing hypocritical about a person who doesn’t support the war not volunteering for the military, unlike you, Tracy Chickenhawk. But you still don’t get it, do you? You protest a veteran like Wayne, etc. judging you as a “chickenhawk,” but you apparently think you alone are in the position to call people “cowards.” Poor little boy, don’t expect further replies, as I already know you will just go on and on with the same lame protests.

Comment by Lora — July 17, 2007 @ 9:09 pm

“You are a hypocritical chickenhawk, plain and simple, and you will be held to it every time you post messages on how “noble” the Iraq War is.”

And you will be held to the fact that you are a coward plain and simple every time you try and judge others when your actions or inaction in your case speak volumes to you blantant hypocricy.

I had a comment here, which disappeared though no foul language was used.
So just in case it doesn’t appear again, here is my last message to Tracy,
You didn’t serve in a non-combat role, either, did you? So you are in no position at all to call others “a coward, plain and simple,” hypocritical chickenhawk. Moreover, the way you keep on ranting and whining on and on in protest and trying to project your own weakness on others is proof that you still can’t live with your hypocrisy. What a pathetic loser you are!

Comment by Midori — July 18, 2007 @ 6:50 am

“…however you mostly protest–and repeatedly–when the women do it.”‘

The women who say it are also the ones who haven’t served themselves for no GOOD reason. I have called out Wayne and told him to shove his chickenhawk comment up his ass because he said I had no right to support a war effort if I hadn’t served. That total BS.

“My final words to you here are that people who don’t agree with the president’s war are far more justified for not serving than you…”

That’s your OPINION. Wayne wanted to re-enlist eventhough he disagree completely with Bush’s policies, you guys are just plain cowards but think you are brave for chosing not to serve.

“Even in the days when there was a draft system in the US, conscientious objection was also recognized.”

Conscientious objectors are cowards.

“You’re no conscientious objector–just a chickenhawk who wants others to fight this war so you can stay home with your “wife and kids”…”

If I were drafted I would go. I sure as hell wouldn’t run off to Canada and hide.

“Yeah, you’re such a “brave warrior” expecting me, not even 5 feet tall, to fight the war you,…”

So you mental capacity wouldn’t allow you to serve in a non combat role? That doesn’t suprise me. You are a coward plain and simple and you need to learn to live with it.

“You revealed yourself as a chickenhawk, so learn to live with it or just fcuk off.”

I have, but comming from a cunt like you your demands are meaningless to me.

I’ve noticed that some men posting here have also called you “chickenhawk,” however you mostly protest–and repeatedly–when the women do it. Are you too scared to take on the men?
My final words to you here are that people who don’t agree with the president’s war are far more justified for not serving than you, Chickenhawk. Even in the days when there was a draft system in the US, conscientious objection was also recognized. You’re no conscientious objector–just a chickenhawk who wants others to fight this war so you can stay home with your “wife and kids” and so the Bush twins can go out and get drunk.
Yeah, you’re such a “brave warrior” expecting me, not even 5 feet tall, to fight the war you, a physically fit man, supports but only from a distance–a hypocritical armchair warrior. You revealed yourself as a chickenhawk, so learn to live with it or just fcuk off.

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Comment by Midori — July 17, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
b) “LOL–I guess the back of your throat must really itch with that “flea” (an insect that lives off animal blood) there.”

You’re a flea? Who would have guessed?

a) Yes, you are trying to defend yourself by protesting every time you’re called a “chickenhawk.” There couldn’t be a much more chickenhawkish excuse than yours: “I didn’t want to be away from my wife and kids.” If you’re not defending yourself, then STFU already.
b) Don’t try to make up for your spelling mistake by calling people names, idiot. I wouldn’t get near any part of your foul throat, though I suppose it might attract some real fleas.

Comment by Tracy — July 17, 2007 @ 8:13 pm

No, Tracy-chickenhawk,
You are the HYPOCRITE who posts hawkish messages here for a war that you are too chicken to fight in. I have never supported the war nor made claims that going into the military is the most noble profession, nor boldly told you, as you have told me that your “work is more important than” mine. You are a hypocritical chickenhawk, plain and simple, and you will be held to it every time you post messages on how “noble” the Iraq War is.

Comment by Lora — July 17, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

“You shouldn’t have asked me about it in the first place, since you didn’t serve after high school, either, hypocritical chickenhawk.”

Well you shouldn’t have called my reason(s) lame when your own were just as lame hypocrite. We are very much even on the hypocrite plane.

Comment by Lora — July 17, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

“I grew up in Hollywood”

No way! Really?

“BTW, the part of the estrangement between Jane and Henry Fonda stemmed from her mother’s suicide and, thus, existed long before her involvement in the anit-Vietnam War.”

What does Jane Fonda that have to do with anything we are discussing here?

“Is your final advice a threat, Tracy Chickenhawk? If so, you are violating TP’s Terms of Usage.”

Take it how ever you wish. You, I, and many here are guilty of violating TP Terms of Usage on multiple occasions. What’s your point? Are you going to report me? Go ahead if you have the courage.

Comment by Midori — July 17, 2007 @ 6:21 pm

“LOL–I guess the back of your throat must really itch with that “flea” (an insect that lives off animal blood) there.”

You’re a flea? Who would have guessed?

Comment by Midori — July 17, 2007 @ 6:21 pm

“Look, Tracy, if you were as clever as you think you are, you would have ignored the question about why you haven’t served despite all your hawkish support of this president.”

I just answered a question then someone popped in and tried to defend their reasons for not joining, eventhough they were lame.

“You already made the chickenhawk confession that you don’t want to join the military…”

Well at least I am not trying to defend my excuse…like others continue to do.

You shouldn’t have asked me about it in the first place, since you didn’t serve after high school, either, hypocritical chickenhawk.