Joint Chiefs weigh ‘bigger troop buildup.’
By on Jul 16th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Joint Chiefs weigh ‘bigger troop buildup.’
Gen. Peter Pace said today that the Joint Chiefs of Staff is weighing a range of possible new troop-level scenarios for Iraq before September, “including, if President Bush deems it necessary, an even bigger troop buildup.” “That way, if we need to plus up or come down” in numbers of troops in Iraq, then military services will be in position to carry out whatever policy Bush chooses, said Pace.
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“if President Bush deems it necessary,”
I thought it was what the Generals said was necessary?
July 16th, 2007 at 2:34 pmI’ve heard these talking points for the past few days coming from right-wingdom. Does anyone else have the feeling that this is a provocative move meant to provoke the Dems in congress to do something drastic to stop the war, in a coordinated plan to eventually blame the Dems for the loss of the war?
July 16th, 2007 at 2:37 pmWill it mean billions more in no bid contracts for Haliburton/KBR? I bet CheneyCO will be all for it.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:38 pmAfter almost four and half years in this war,looks like we are starting all over again…
More hundreds of billions of dollars will be spent on this buildup.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:38 pmRemember when Rummy said the war on Iraq would last for “weeks, not months”?
America will never forgive Bush for lying to them, to trick them into supporting his endless, insanely expensive war.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:40 pmSee how the game works?
General Betray us says that now the President is in charge of troop strength.
Passing that hot potato, much?
Next up is the false flag attack on the United States, followed by the DRAFT to fulfill the quota of new cannon fodder required to man the crusades throughout the middle east.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:42 pmfollowed by the DRAFT…
…followed by rioting in the streets.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThe mechanic was working on my car the other day, so I crossed the street and ambled through the local cemetery. I found the tombstone of a Marine who was KIA on March 1, 1945. That would have put him on Iwo Jima. He died three days before his 21st birthday.
Gen. Pace: You’re spitting on that Marine’s grave. He didn’t die so you and your boss can start wars, lie to the American people, trash the Constitution and run our armed forces into the ground.
Unlike you, General, that young man was, is, and always will be a hero.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:42 pmPhilip Zelikow – PsyOps Operative
http://www.ichblog.eu/content/view/32/1/
The Bush administration is very serious about controlling information. That’s why they launched the Pentagon’s Dept of Strategic Information. The military is now deeply engaged in “full spectrum dominance†of all information technologies.
Consequently, “controlling the narrative†is more important than one might think. Propaganda is the cheapest and most effective way to control public behavior.
The Bush administration has made some notable contributions to the traditional propaganda-paradigm. In fact, former Counselor at the State Dept, Philip Zelikow, (who was also executive director of the 9-11 Commission) is an expert in “the creation and maintenance of ‘public myths’ or ‘public presumptions’, which he defines as beliefs thought to be true although not necessarily known to be true with certainty, shared in common with the relevant political community. He has taken a special interest in ‘searing’ or ‘molding’ events that take on ‘transcendent’ importance and, therefore, retain there power even as the experiencing generation passes from the sceneâ€.
“In the Nov-Dec 1998 issue of Foreign Affairs he co-authored an article called ‘Catastrophic Terrorism’ in which he speculated that if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade center had succeeded ‘the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. ‘It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security. The US might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force.
The previous paragraph is WRITTEN IN 1998!?! 3 YEARS BEFORE 9-11!
Where, one might ask, did Zelikow get his crystal ball?
Isn’t this the exact blueprint for what is taking place right now?
Zelikow has figured out that the real essence of controlling behavior is not simply “propagating†ideas but understanding how humans process information.
Both 9-11 and the blowing up of the Golden dome Mosque are examples of how this theory works.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:43 pm“Voinovich: Bush Has ‘F—ed’ Up The War, Needs To Start Thinking About His Legacy.â€
Vato #4: Cheney is not the only one hankering for an extension.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:44 pm#
followed by the DRAFT…
…followed by rioting in the streets.
Comment by Arthur Cravan — July 16, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
They’ve got a program to prevent that…
A FAKE PANDEMIC designed to keep you in your homes.
You have been preconditioned by the GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED PROPAGANDA to believe that bird flu is contagious and deadly.
In fact, less than 100 people have died of bird flu. There will be no pandemic – only 24/7 FEAR MONGERING designed to keep you off the streets and drive up the stock value of the pharmaceutical company that supposedly makes the antibiotic we will all need – conveniently owned by Rumsfeld.
Are we all just sheep? Will the Generals put a stop to this madness?
Made in the USA! Bio-Terrorism, Fear Mongering, and Propaganda… who benefits ?
This is a man-made virus from a government lab and likely distributed via vaccine. Ask the SEC how much Donald Rumsfeld will profit off Tamiflu? Email: enforcement@sec.gov
The Bird Flu Hoax: http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/birdflu.htm
Bush’s Fowl Play: http://www.mises.org/story/1960
NO FEAR! http://educate-yourself.org/mw/message17oct05.shtml
Also, Lori has extensive articles @ CLG http://www.legitgov.org/flu_oddities.html
And, Lew Rockwell / Bill Sardi: http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi45.html
Do you know that ‘bird flu’ was discovered in Vietnam 9 years ago?
Do you know that barely 100 people have died in the whole world in all that time?
Do you know that it was the Americans who alerted us to the efficacy of the human antiviral TAMIFLU as a preventative.
Do you know that TAMIFLU barely alleviates some symptoms of the common flu?
Do you know that its efficacy against the common flu is questioned by a great part of the scientific community?
Do you know that against a SUPPOSED mutant virus such as H5N1, TAMIFLU barely alleviates the illness?
Do you know that to date Avian Flu affects birds only?
Do you know who markets TAMIFLU?
ROCHE LABORATORIES. DO you know who bought the patent for TAMIFLU from ROCHE LABORATORIES in 1996?
GILEAD SCIENCES INC.
Do you know who was the then president of GILEAD SCIENCES INC. and remains a major shareholder?
DONALD RUMSFELD
July 16th, 2007 at 2:47 pmTroops ain’t the only option, never underestimate the power of propaganda on already traumatized minds!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:47 pmANTHRAX, PERHAPS?
This WMR story is revealing:
Sep. 17-18, 2006 — SPECIAL REPORT.
http://waynemadsenreport.com/
GHW Bush and Chertoff are the ingredients in the story that should be the focus of serious investigation.
CHERTOFF IS THE TOP ISRAELI SPY IN THE US.
It was Chertoff who demanded of Fitzgerald back in 1993 to keep Bin Laden’s name out of the initial WTC bombing case, and further, it was Chertoff who protected a known bin Laden financier. Even though the Bergen Record newspaper had published the facts of the case in a series of articles. This news was never picked up nationally.
Chertoff is the most powerful man within the US Government. Cheney coordinates the goals of GHW Bush with Chertoff.
The story notes that the first WTC attack occured (suspiciously) immediately after Clinton took office.
What was the message, and who was sending it? Who was pissed and vindictive enough to order it?
GHW Bush – in concert with his CIA drug-running business partner – the Mossad. Pakistan’s ISI is a division of Mossad. When you see “Pakistan” – think “Israel.”
It was Chertoff who was assigned the task of spiriting the five Mossad agents out of the US after they were caught on 9/11.
It was Chertoff who was tasked with the responsibility to cover the money trail of 9/11 – (Operation GreenQuest).
It was Chertoff’s cousin who penned the purportedly definitive 9/11 debunking hit piece for Popular Mechanics.
There is no longer any question that Chertoff is the leading agent for Israel in the United States.
Gonzales did not act on his own when he went to Fitzgerald to blackmail him into burying the Rove indictment. Chertoff ordered Gonzales to do it, and it was Chertoff who had all of the evidence with which to blackmail Fitzgerald.
Fitzgerald knows for a fact that it is Chertoff who is behind this blackmail, as Chertoff was the only one who had the inside information that Gonzales revealed to Fitzgerald.
Chertoff is directly guilty of both Blackmail AND Obstruction of Justice – to say nothing of Espionage.
It’s no wonder that the DHS and FEMA were incapable of responding to Katrina – when all of their resources and focus are directed toward covering up the largest conspiracy in the history off the United States.
The Bush 41 / Mossad Drug Cartel is the number one problem plaguing this country, and has been since before the Iran Contra Scandal broke. Their flights into Florida on US Government Private Jets laden with Cocaine continue to this day – every day. CIA, FBI and Secret Service all are in on it. They are literally untouchable. GHW Bush is still running that entire operation.
It is Spy Vs. Spy and literally EVERYONE is being blackmailed by someone.
All of this drug money is used to finance every nefarious scheme the globalists can concoct.
GHW Bush is the one calling all the shots. Israel has double-crossed him and threatens him with blackmail – Nuclear Blackmail. Above Bush 41, the Crown.
It the crimes of Bush 41 and Chertoff are revealed, the entire suit starts to unravel.
GW Bush is nothing but the front man – the puppet.
Chertoff and Poppy pull all the strings.
Lieberman works for Chertoff.
The US is fully infiltrated by Israel.
Lamont threatened their lock on the US Government.
By revealing Israel’s strangehold on US Media, US Government, and US Policy, the American people can decide to vote out the compromised treasonous incumbents and PURGE the system of graft and corruption.
The FCC needs to be back in the control of US citizens in order to put the interests of the US above Israel.
THROWN THE SPIES IN JAIL.
START WITH CHERTOFF.
CBS News ran a story on the ANTHRAX ATTACKS of five years ago. Their newscast stated that there are no leads, and the FBI is considering designating the attacks a “COLD CASE.”
They lied.
Dr. Zack did it. It was US DOD Anthrax.
RUMSFELD’S ANTHRAX.
Daschle knows the whole truth.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:49 pmA N T H R A X
U S E D
A G A I N S T
P O L I T I C A L
E N E M I E S
The repeated lie that “we haven’t been attacked here since 9/11″ is absurd.
The Anthrax attacks instilled at least as much fear in the American public as did 9/11.
Rumsfeld and Cheney made it happen, all under the direction of the REAL PRESIDENT, GW’s Father, Bush 41.:
The anthrax lead RIGHT BACK to the same place the 9/11 funding eventually lead back to: the bowels of the US government. It was PROVEN by the FBI that the anthrax originated from a secret army lab in Fort Dietrich maryland. Funny how the White House was put on Cipro on 9/10 by the same guy (Jerry Hauer) who sent FBI agent John O’neil to die in the towers.
F L A S H B A C K:
Conspiracy Flashback to the Ford Administration – and look who is running the ANTHRAX coverup…
http://www.frankolsonproject.org/Articulations/Script-CodeNameArtichoke.html
The conspiracy originated at the top, in the White House, initiated by Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Cheney. It had just been learned that the CIA allegedly drugged its employee Frank Olson with LSD before his supposed suicide.
Rumsfeld and Cheney, heads of the White House chiefs of staff, at the time recommended to President Gerald Ford that he apologize to the family in the name of the government, and to support retribution. In order to prevent worse things from happening. That’s the content of this White House memo:
49.21 “There (is…) the possibility that it might be necessary to disclose highly classified national security information in connection with any court suit or legislative hearings.”
49.38 Ten days later, Ford hosted the Olson family and apologized. This allowed him to remain silent about state secrets – and the true reasons for Frank Olson’s death.
49.52 Voice of Eric Olson “What this means for me is that a national security homicide is not only a possibility, but really it is a necessity, when you have a certain number of ingredients together.
If you are doing top secret work that is immoral, arguably immoral, especially in the post-Nuremberg period, and arguably illegal, and at odds with the kind of high moral position you are trying to maintain in the world, then you have to have a mechanism of security which is going to include murder.”
50.26 The two politicians who collaborated in the conspiracy in 1975, Rumsfeld and Cheney, are back in power. As vice president and secretary of defense of the government of the United States.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:50 pmJust finished listening to a VERY interesting interview with Pentagon Whistle-blower Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski (ret.) on the coming war with Iran:
July 16th, 2007 at 2:53 pmhttp://www.truthdig.com/interview/item/20070227_pentagon_whistleblower_on_the_coming_war_with_iran/
Troops ain’t the only option, never underestimate the power of propaganda on already traumatized minds!
Comment by Mr. President
“already traumatized minds”… like yours?
(And you keep callin’ us Stalinists… what a sense of humor…)
July 16th, 2007 at 2:55 pm#
Just finished listening to a VERY interesting interview with Pentagon Whistle-blower Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski (ret.) on the coming war with Iran:
http://www.truthdig.com/ interview/ item/ 20070227_pentagon_whistleblower_on_the_coming_war_with_iran/
Comment by JG — July 16, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
THAT is one truth-telling American PATRIOT
July 16th, 2007 at 2:56 pmThis makes sense. Since everything George has done up to now has lead to disaster, he should do the opposite of what appears to be a rationale solution to his latest fuck up. It’s opposite George, that’s all.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:57 pmIn fact, this has all been a big epiphany for me. We have George Costanza running a war. Too bad our troops have to be in the audience in Iraq.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:58 pm“The New Pentagon Papers” by Karen Kwiatkowski (2004)
July 16th, 2007 at 2:59 pmhttp://www.commondreams.org/views04/0310-09.htm
Why didn’t this get traction??
I don’t know why the right wing is so petrified of human cloning. Since none of them are enlisting, it’s the only way we will ever be able to have enough troops for the endless wars they are masturbating over.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:06 pmSurprise, suprise, suprise. The Iraq report in September will produce a new mission phrase like ‘Super Surge’ or ‘Sustained Surge’, perhaps a new General and a report on it’s progress due sometime in December.
The war will restart all over again and no one will be able to question it’s success till December something.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:08 pm“By means of shrewd lies, unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell — and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed. ”
July 16th, 2007 at 3:11 pmAdolph Hitler, Mein Kampf
We’ll need the extra troops in Iraq to fight the Iranians once bush bombs Tehran…
July 16th, 2007 at 3:17 pm“War Made Easy – How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us To Deathâ€
http://www.warmadeeasythemovie.org/
Yesterday my husband and I watched the video “War Made Easy†featuring Norman Soloman and narrated by Sean Penn. Every single person in this country should watch this and educate themselves on propaganda: what it looks like, how it is used, and why it is so effective, and view all the parallels of the last several wars this country has waged in the name of spreading peace and democracy. Watching all the old footage lined up alongside our current history is pretty amazing. It was mindboggling watching so many presidents saying all the same things, using all the same language and reasons to promote the conflicts. The use of the ‘need for a surge’ is repeated by several presidents. The dire warnings of what will happen if we leave also repeated using the same language by several presidents. Strange watching the same thing play over and over through history, hearing the same words, just different leaders and circumstances…
July 16th, 2007 at 3:18 pmThis is an important film and if Americans want to learn how we get into these wars, they can learn a lot by watching how history keeps repeating itself. The footage is both damning and compelling.
We’ll need the extra troops in Iraq to fight the Iranians once bush bombs Tehran…
Comment by bob — July 16, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
No we won’t – we’re just going to arm al-Qa’ida in Iraq to fight Iran for us.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:27 pmULITMATE SURGE, the surge of all surges. The Iragi government is going on vacation for a month. How fitting. They could care less about our troops fighting and dying, being injuried, etc. Their troops are not ready to defend their country. How fitting. Now the Bushies want to attack Iran.
They voted against a resolution by Mr. Webb which would support the troops.
They have to bring back the draft or our troops right now won’t survive .
The Bushies + Lieberman + the neocons don’t care about the troops. How Un-American.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:29 pm“if President Bush deems it necessary,â€
I thought it was what the Generals said was necessary?
Comment by Crump’s Brother — July 16, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
We all knew this how things worked, but it’s still good to see it out there for those who can’t read between the lines.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:32 pmDoes anyone else have the feeling that this is a provocative move meant to provoke the Dems in congress to do something drastic to stop the war, in a coordinated plan to eventually blame the Dems for the loss of the war?
Comment by Chauncey Gardner — July 16, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
The war was lost on April 19, 2003.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:33 pm“America will never forgive Bush for lying to them
Comment by Arthur Cravan — July 16, 2007″
And just what lies are you referring to?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:39 pmYes, Bush is listening to the generals on the ground listen to his assessment that more troops are needed for the grinder.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:45 pmSomeone fax mikey the “Lie” list at
July 16th, 2007 at 3:50 pm1-866-Imasuker
And just what lies are you referring to?
I don’t know if you want to invite that.. There are entire books written on Bush’s lies. I happen to have one on my shelf..
How about starting with:
July 16th, 2007 at 3:50 pm“We do not torture,†Bush declared in response to reports of secret CIA prisons overseas.
During an October 22, 2006 interview on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’â€
Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!’
July 16th, 2007 at 3:54 pmI could do this all day, but I have work to do. Later..
July 16th, 2007 at 3:58 pmOh, maybe one more..
” I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.” President Bush (09/01/05)
Two Days Warning. The White House situation room received a report at 1:47 a.m. the day Katrina hit, predicting that Katrina would likely lead to severe flooding and/or levee breaching. Two days before Katrina hit FEMA predicted that Hurricane Katrina could be worse than Hurricane Pam. [MSNBC 1/24/06]
Hurricane Pam? Responding to Bush’s comments on Meet the Press, Dr. Ivor Van Heerden of the LSU Hurricane Center “I didn’t buy that because, you know, we had discussed on numerous occasions that a worst-case scenario would be if we had one of these major hurricanes and then we lost the levee systems.†A White House advisor sat in on the “Hurricane Pam Exercise,†a computer simulation of the possible effects of a Category 3 hurricane on New Orleans. The exercise found that “…a storm like Hurricane Pam would: cause flooding that would leave 300,000 people trapped in New Orleans, many of whom would not have private transportation for evacuation.†[Meet the Press, 9/11/05]
CNN.com noted that “officials have warned for years that a Category 4 [hurricane] could cause the levees to fail.” The CNN.com article added that in an August 31 interview on CNN’s Larry King Live, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) director Michael Brown said, “That Category 4 hurricane caused the same kind of damage that we anticipated. So we planned for it two years ago. Last year, we exercised it. And unfortunately this year, we’re implementing it.”
On Meet the Press, Tim Russert pointed out that the Times-Picayune published a five-part series in June 2002, in which it warned that if a large hurricane hit New Orleans, the city’s levees would likely be topped or broken — resulting in catastrophic flooding and thousands of deaths. Russert added that “last summer FEMA, who reports to you, and the LSU Hurricane Center, and local and state officials did a simulated Hurricane Pam in which the levees broke. … Thousands drowned.” (Media Matters for America 09/08/05)
Additionally, as journalist Joshua Micah Marshall noted on Talking Points Memo, National Hurricane Center director Max Mayfield “talked about the force of Katrina during a video conference call to President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Texas” on August 28 [St. Petersburg Times, 8/30/05]. The Washington Post quoted Mayfield on September 6: “They knew that this one was different. … I don’t think Mike Brown or anyone else in FEMA could have any reason to have any problem with our calls. … They were told … We said the levees could be topped.”
July 16th, 2007 at 4:01 pmA transcript of this video conference reveals that Mayfield indicated that this was “obviously a very, very grave concern.”
OK, maybe one more..
“I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.” President Bush (09/01/05)
http://www.bushlies.net/
Two Days Warning. The White House situation room received a report at 1:47 a.m. the day Katrina hit, predicting that Katrina would likely lead to severe flooding and/or levee breaching. Two days before Katrina hit FEMA predicted that Hurricane Katrina could be worse than Hurricane Pam. [MSNBC 1/24/06]
Hurricane Pam? Responding to Bush’s comments on Meet the Press, Dr. Ivor Van Heerden of the LSU Hurricane Center “I didn’t buy that because, you know, we had discussed on numerous occasions that a worst-case scenario would be if we had one of these major hurricanes and then we lost the levee systems.†A White House advisor sat in on the “Hurricane Pam Exercise,†a computer simulation of the possible effects of a Category 3 hurricane on New Orleans. The exercise found that “…a storm like Hurricane Pam would: cause flooding that would leave 300,000 people trapped in New Orleans, many of whom would not have private transportation for evacuation.†[Meet the Press, 9/11/05]
CNN.com noted that “officials have warned for years that a Category 4 [hurricane] could cause the levees to fail.” The CNN.com article added that in an August 31 interview on CNN’s Larry King Live, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) director Michael Brown said, “That Category 4 hurricane caused the same kind of damage that we anticipated. So we planned for it two years ago. Last year, we exercised it. And unfortunately this year, we’re implementing it.”
On Meet the Press, Tim Russert pointed out that the Times-Picayune published a five-part series in June 2002, in which it warned that if a large hurricane hit New Orleans, the city’s levees would likely be topped or broken — resulting in catastrophic flooding and thousands of deaths. Russert added that “last summer FEMA, who reports to you, and the LSU Hurricane Center, and local and state officials did a simulated Hurricane Pam in which the levees broke. … Thousands drowned.” (Media Matters for America 09/08/05)
Additionally, as journalist Joshua Micah Marshall noted on Talking Points Memo, National Hurricane Center director Max Mayfield “talked about the force of Katrina during a video conference call to President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Texas” on August 28 [St. Petersburg Times, 8/30/05]. The Washington Post quoted Mayfield on September 6: “They knew that this one was different. … I don’t think Mike Brown or anyone else in FEMA could have any reason to have any problem with our calls. … They were told … We said the levees could be topped.”
A transcript of this video conference reveals that Mayfield indicated that this was “obviously a very, very grave concern.”
July 16th, 2007 at 4:07 pmWe’ll need the extra troops in Iraq to fight the Iranians once bush bombs Tehran…
Comment by bob — July 16, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
No we won’t – we’re just going to arm al-Qa’ida in Iraq to fight Iran for us.
Comment by toasterhead — July 16, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
Do you suppose that’s where that $300 million that was stolen from that Iraqi bank is going to go?
“Qaeda group in Iraq threatens to attack Iranians”
http://in.today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2007-07-09T021610Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_India-283783-1.xml
July 16th, 2007 at 4:08 pmoops.. sorry (didn’t mean to do this twice).
July 16th, 2007 at 4:08 pmNothing appears to be stopping the war preznit from taking August off. And it’s not even 130 degrees in WARshington.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:12 pmStop right there! Stop any additional funding that allows for any additional troops. Enough is way too much!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:14 pmSustaining our present level of manpower in Iraq will not be possible past next spring in the current force environment. Implementing the draft is not politically tenable right now, so the idea that even greater numbers of troops are going to be available without major changes in force distribution elsewhere don’t make sense.
The only thing that would change the political calculus on instituting a draft would be another terror attack on the scale of 9/11. Given the level of distrust of Bush & Co among the population in general and the young in particular, cynical suspicions about any new attack as a “false flag” operation would mean significant opposition to a draft right out of the gate. The more paranoid among us believe that Bush and Abu Gonzales would be only too happy to chuck draft protestors into domestic Gitmos.
Of course, Darth Cheney, Kristol Meth, and Fred “Three Chins” Kagan are all champing at the bit to attack Iran. When we do, we will definitely need extra troops in Iraq just to fend off the enraged Shia.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:15 pm“US forces have fired so many bullets in Iraq and Afghanistan – an estimated 250,000 for every insurgent killed – that American ammunition-makers cannot keep up with demand. As a result the US is having to import supplies from Israel.”
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article314944.ece
July 16th, 2007 at 4:17 pm“The United States is paying around $ 100 million a month for the deployment of 80,000 Pakistani troops on its border with Afghanistan ostensibly for the war on terrorism, a key US official revealed on Thursday.”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/US_renting_Pak_army_for__100_million_a_month/articleshow/2202810.cms
July 16th, 2007 at 4:21 pmBulking up for the Iran War no doubt.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:38 pmOMG WTF
July 16th, 2007 at 4:47 pmMaybe the Commander Guy can round up all his loyal trolls here to fill the ranks to make up the surge. (What a hilarious sight that would be! All those pasty pudgy boyz (looking like rover and the other neocon rolly pollys) peeing their pants trying to do their one pushup required to pass the PT exam.
July 16th, 2007 at 5:17 pm“First ‘Robot Attack’ Bombers Coming to Iraq Soon”
“Away from the headlines and debate over the “surge” in U.S. ground troops, the Air Force has quietly built up its hardware inside Iraq, sharply stepped up bombing and laid a foundation for a sustained air campaign in support of American and Iraqi forces.”
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003611803
July 16th, 2007 at 5:43 pmTo Everyone,That is so Disatisfied with the war in Iraq,I have one solution, to all of your Bush bashers.No one is Making any of you stay in this country.Just get the Hell out and go to another one.Give Iceland a try.Reasonable minded americans are tired of all you cry babies.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:33 pm#49 To Everyone,That is so Disatisfied with the war in Iraq,I have one solution, to all of your Bush bashers.No one is Making any of you stay in this country.Just get the Hell out and go to another one.Give Iceland a try.Reasonable minded americans are tired of all you cry babies.
Comment by Mervin Williams
Uhh, Mervin,
Since there are only26% of YOUR type, maybe YOU should leave and let us get back to the tough job of cleaning the shit stains off this country after your BushCo Boyz have finished their howler monkey act.
BBBB Bye Bye!
July 16th, 2007 at 9:16 pm…as if there’s plenty to ‘plus up’ with-always plenty of ‘plus up’ to reach for in their ‘plus up’ bag.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:39 pmMervin’s the only one that’s made sense so far, in 51 posts on this topic. All of the breathless rantings about the ‘evil leaders’ seem to miss the point entirely, that they can publish their idiotic opinions in a country that isn’t going to send goons to kick in their door and toss them into a ‘gitmo’.
That’s GTMO, by the way. It’s a necessary place, in yet another country that has nothing bu oppression on their minds.
The world is too small for governments like Saddam Hussein’s to continue, especially when they sit on 10% or more of the world’s wealth.
The Iraq war isn’t about anything that any of you have ranted about here. It is about changing the future, and it’s a tough slog. I’m not one of the 26% that is pleased with how Bush is running things, but I am glad he had the balls to put this change into motion. Too bad it took a second attack on the WTC to get Americans worried enough to back him.
And that’s the real issue here: Americans are too fat, lazy and preoccupied with dissing their leadership to give a rat’s ass about other countries. We got it all here, why should we care about making it better for anyone else? Why should we put our ideals on the line and spread our way of life? Why should we care about people that live under tyranny and fear? Why should we care at all?
You all seem to see plenty of evil in our own government…. how is it possible that you don’t see evil in the governments we are fighting against? How is it possible that you can spout such ignorance so freely, without fear of government retribution?
Sheesh. I know I’m wasting my time here, but I just had to break into this chain to let you all know how idiotic you sound. Good luck.
July 17th, 2007 at 8:07 amAnd by the way, about that Bird Flu thing…. it’s only killed 100 people so far because it hasn’t yet mutated into a more virulent strain. Once it gets into someone that already has a more contagious form of the flu, and recombines with that into something that becomes contagious AND deadly, then we’ll see a global problem for real. Tamiflu may not help… it’s kinda tough to make a vaccine against something that doesn’t even exist yet. At least they’re trying.
Stop looking in the mirror and scaring yourselves. Start looking things up and learning about them instead of posting baseless opinions that leave out important facts.
July 17th, 2007 at 8:14 amPace is a danger to the peace and stability of the planet. He’s a goody-two-shoes self-righteous mama’s boy who is so deluded by religion he can’t see straight.
He’s on a crusade: a crusade against heathen Muslims for not accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior, a crusade against gays who he brands as immoral, and a crusade against reason by investing his trust in Bush because he thinks Bush speaks with an invisible man who lives up in the sky that guides his hand.
What a repressed freak.
July 17th, 2007 at 8:39 amOh, and yeah, we’re in Iraq to help the Iraqis. That’s a real knee slapper. Sure we are. Soon a million of them will have died in the wake of this disaster, and they’re just loving it over there.
You know, there was a time Rumsfeld was handed his ass for letting it slip that he thought it was a “hard slog.” We were still in the cakwalk / oil pays the tab pollyanna phase of the administration’s propaganda campaign at that point.
Since then, the rationale has changed over and over and over again, replaced like so many burnt-out lightbulbs as the craven insincerity of the reason-of-the-day is proven to be false, again and again and again. Now we’ve some to this: we are the great liberators, liberating all poor people who live on oil fields.
What nonsense — it’s so bizarre, it’s laughable. Four hundred times as many Iraqis have died as a consequence of our “liberation” as died on 9/11. And they had absolutely, totally, completely nothing to do with it. Meanwhile, our attackers run free.
They don’t want us there. The military mission is over — and completed with stunning efficiency thanks to our brave military. Time to come home.
But no. Next it’ll be Iran. Iran has a lot of oil — looks like they want to be “free” too.
So it’s easy for you and your own fat ass to blow smoke up our skirts that this is some sort of mercy mission. We know better.
You just want to hear yourself talk to reinforce your rapidly collapsing bubble of illusion before it breaks under the weight of the undeniable. So do yourself and us both a favor and don’t bother. You’re wasting your time. You’ve come to the wrong place for the therapy you need — see a professional.
July 17th, 2007 at 8:57 amYo trippin, you don’t seem to know too much about about Middle East dictatorships. Seems like your mindset is :
US Government leaders = evil conspirators and bad guys
Middle East kings/dictators = good guys we should leave alone
You may be right about the number of Iraqis dead… you left out the fact that most of them were killed by other Iraqis or fellow ‘visiting’ Muslims. Of course, that was happening even before we showed up.
You’re right, I’m wasting my time. This blog doesn’t want balanced discourse. It’s more of a ‘padded room’ for the misinformed to go and scream at each other. They denied my post on the Bird Flu, so it’s clear they’re not interested in facts, just ravings. Have fun!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:36 am“How is it possible that you can spout such ignorance so freely, without fear of government retribution?”
Comment by Mervin’s Friend — July 17, 2007 @ 8:07 am
Uhhh, is that a trick question? I know, I know, because we don’t live in a fascist country? Yet anyway.
Aren’t the troops over in the Middle East “protecting our freedoms”? Our “way of life”? Does that not include Freedom Of Speech anymore?
Oh, and this one’s a particularly telling statement you made:
“The world is too small for governments like Saddam Hussein’s to continue, especially when they sit on 10% or more of the world’s wealth.”
So then, tyranny is okay for the poor countries? What are you saying? That “democracy” is only worth “bringing” to the rich countries?
You talk about how we should care about others. Does that include the poor in THIS country? Does that include the poor people in Haiti and Sudan and North Korea etc. etc.? Oh, that’s right, those are POOR countries who have the misfortune of NOT sitting on “10% of the world’s wealth”!
And how exactly is our demolition of Iraq “changing the future”? I’m really curious about what kind of “future” you envision! Please, share it with us.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:47 am“They denied my post on the Bird Flu” – I wish they hadn’t! I’d have loved to see what you thought about that! LOL
July 17th, 2007 at 9:48 amMargaret, they denied my post again. I guess they just don’t want these discussions getting polluted by any pesky ‘facts’.
I give up
July 17th, 2007 at 11:31 am