BREAKING: Reid To Force All-Night Filibuster On Iraq Withdrawal
BREAKING: Reid To Force All-Night Filibuster On Iraq Withdrawal
Moments ago, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) announced that in response to conservative obstructionism, he plans to force war supporters to physically remain in the Senate and filibuster Iraq withdrawal legislation.
Reid accused conservatives of “protecting the President rather than protecting our troops” by “denying us an up or down vote on the most important issue our country faces.” He said that if a vote on the Reed/Levin Iraq legislation is not allowed today or tomorrow, he will keep the Senate in session “straight through the night on Tuesday” and force a filibuster. From Reid’s speech:
Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even voting on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end. They are protecting the President rather than protecting our troops.
They are denying us an up or down — yes or no — vote on the most important issue our country faces.
I would like to inform the Republican leadership and all my colleagues that we have no intention of backing down.
If Republicans do not allow a vote on Levin/Reed today or tomorrow, we will work straight through the night on Tuesday.
The American people deserve an open and honest debate on this war, and they deserve an up or down vote on this amendment to end it.
UPDATE: Watch the video:
OpenLeft, Firedoglake and others have also called for Congress to call the conservatives’ bluff and force them to filibuster the Levin-Reed Iraq bill.
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Yes!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:41 pmI wonder what he was waiting for?
July 16th, 2007 at 2:43 pmwe have….SPINE! yes, its there somewhere
July 16th, 2007 at 2:43 pmGo Harry….give those disgusting sleaze bags a taste of their own medicine. Dont back down. No retreat. Tell them to go Cheney themselves!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:43 pmIt’s about time - make ‘em stand up and be counted
July 16th, 2007 at 2:43 pmThere you go, people. Now, it’s up to the mainstream media to report this in a balanced fashion. I won’t hold my breath.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:44 pm“Upperdownvote this, Mitch!”
July 16th, 2007 at 2:44 pmBwAAAhHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:45 pmGo Harry Go!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:47 pmFrom now until the recess, the only legislation offered by the Dems should be for the Impeachment and trial of Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, and their minions. The Thugs can filibuster away - just keep introducing Bills and forcing the thugs hand.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:48 pmFinally, we have a thick Reid to lean on!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:48 pmGood. More moonbat spewing the better. No Surrender!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:48 pm–
I’d watch every smarmy minute of
that dog and pony show.
A little sunshine never hurt any hard workin’ man.
yahoo!!
…
July 16th, 2007 at 2:48 pmexcellent start. make a stand harry. I hope more join you soon!
This war was illegal and immoral from the day it started - the time to end it is now!
Some additional reading on this:
“Top-Ten Reasons to Get out of Iraq. Now!”
July 16th, 2007 at 2:49 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ top_ten_reasons_to_get_out_of_iraq_now
…but, if the republicans are stuck in the senate all night, how will they visit their hookers?
July 16th, 2007 at 2:49 pmTypical of Harry “undertaker-looking” Reid. That kook would love to operate in darkness. Too bad he’s a wannabe and a pussy.
Harry’s other arsenal component: misuse of the word ‘incompetent.’
July 16th, 2007 at 2:49 pmDon’t back down! Force these slimeballs to show what they really are, cowards who do not support our overworked and underpaid troops! Forcing them to do deployment after deployment after deployment with no break is cruel. They talk about “more troops” but we don’t HAVE ANY more troops! If they want to talk “more troops” then they better start talking about a draft, because that is the ONLY way these warmonger Rerthugs will get more troops. They have worn down the troops in the field and NO ONE is signing up to get in the middle of their civil war that WE HELPED exacerbate by invading their country and trying to occupy it for no reason other than MONEY.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:50 pmShame on ALL Republicans. Shame on ANYONE who supports this idiot President and his minions. All they care about is “winning” they don’t have a CLUE, there is NO WIN to be had in Iraq.
Force the filibuster, force them to show their OBSTRUCTIONIST ways, force their hand Harry!
And tomorrow, FILE THE CONTEMPT CITATION for Harriet “no show” Miers if she doesn’t comply by tomorrow. Enough is enough, stop these criminals!
Hot F Damn!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:50 pm“Golly, won’t you guys let us get our way just this one time? hrrmph! You’re mean”
- Harry Reid
July 16th, 2007 at 2:51 pmMan, I hope the filibuster works, but it’s always good to see a person following their convictions. Go Harry Go.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:51 pmHas a genuine filibuster yet happened in the “age of the internet”?
I ask ‘cuz tagteamed Republicans running their mouths for thirty hours straight will inevitably provide a ton of YouTube moments.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:51 pmGood. Now, fight like apes!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:51 pmNow just don’t put your cojones down somewhere and wander off, Harry.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:51 pmAWESOME! I called Harry too!
http://tinyurl.com/24acty
July 16th, 2007 at 2:52 pmI think that all of the congresscritters should be forced to work the same hours the troops are working. They should even shut off the A/C and turn on the heat.
Now I would like to see that!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:53 pmhow will they visit their hookers?
Comment by dai
They’ll call out and have them delivered, like pizza?
Didn’t that one creep who busted actually say that, it’s like ordering a pizza?
July 16th, 2007 at 2:53 pmAbout damn time!!!
Get them on record. Let the American People know who is holding up progress in our Congress!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:53 pmJust finished listening to a VERY interesting interview with Pentagon Whistle-blower Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski (ret.) on the coming war with Iran:
July 16th, 2007 at 2:54 pmhttp://www.truthdig.com/ interview/ item/ 20070227_pentagon_whistleblower_on_the_coming_war_with_iran/
Awesome seconded. Those Diaper Republicans have hookers to visit with. They’ll last about two hours.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:54 pmIt’s about time.
Hold the Republicans accountable for their perfidy, their corruption, and their hypocrisy.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:55 pmMr. President,
“Golly, won’t you guys let us get our way just this one time? hrrmph! You’re meanâ€
I think you meant
“Golly, won’t you guys let us the American People have their way just this one time? hrrmph! You’re deplorableâ€
there you go!!
July 16th, 2007 at 2:55 pm“The Republicans are protecting the President rather than protecting the troops”–now there’s a good war slogan! The Dems should use it at every opportunity.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:55 pmit’s about time!
ECHO…
ECHo…
ECho…
Echo…
echo…
July 16th, 2007 at 2:55 pmIf republican’ts start giving grief about lack of cooperation by their colleagues in the majority, I would hope those same colleagues will be quick to refresh the memories of the republican’ts about their ridiculous stonewalling in the 108th and 109th congresses.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:56 pmFinally some response from the Dems. The Diaper Republicans have hookers to visit, they’ll last about two hours.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:57 pm“Now just don’t put your cojones down somewhere and wander off, Harry.”
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
If he does, maybe he could drop them on Pelosi’s desk.
“I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends… that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them.”
-Adlei E. Stevenson Jr. (speech during 1952 Presidential Campaign)
July 16th, 2007 at 2:58 pmThose Flip-Flopping Republicans were for “Up or Down” votes before they were against them. Hypocrites
July 16th, 2007 at 2:58 pmBREAKING: FAIZ Skipped Lunch To Write This BREAKING BREAKAROO!
IT’S BREAKARIFIC!
Good afternoon, Mr. Breakarowski.
July 16th, 2007 at 2:58 pmGripping C-SPAN television. Can’t wait to see
how this plays. Glad Sen. Reid threw that in their
faces. Summer tv wasn’t really holding my interest.
Democracy inaction seems promising.
-Annie Day
July 16th, 2007 at 2:58 pmReid’s announcement follows calls from OpenLeft, Firedoglake and others for Congress to call the conservatives’ bluff
Was TP one of those ‘others’??
July 16th, 2007 at 2:59 pmAs nice as this sounds, I STILL don’t believe a word of it. Look for the “threat” of keeping Senators up all night to result in a glorious, meaningless deal of some horrible kind.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:00 pmWill there be beer there?
Or is it BYOB?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:00 pmThis will never work because dems dont have the constitution to stay up late; being the limp-wristed noodles they are, they need their beauty sleep. One look at Pelosi would tell you that she needs about fifty years of straight sack time.
Why dont the good lib senators simply cut off the war funding which is their real congressional purview? Why? WHY? WHHYYYYYYYYYYYY?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:00 pmIt’s about f-ing time.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:01 pmDid Reed get a sex change and grow some? About fu@king time.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:01 pmThanks MR. President for reminding us all that you are a sorry sack of republodung. It’s great reinforcement to read the mindless bs that spews from your computer. Reminds me of the why you’ll be remembered as the worst President ever.
Keep up your predictable work.
Way to go Reid. Now turn the screws on these shrews.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:02 pmComment by Crump’s Brother — July 16, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
Do make me start asking “why” questions!
Such as:
“Why does Harry Reid hate sleep?”
July 16th, 2007 at 3:02 pmMaybe they should wait longer on any legislation relating to Iraq. It seems like slowly but surely the republicans are breaking rank and speaking in opposition to the war. Give it time and gain support rather than force this legislation before fellow legislators are ready.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:03 pmGet those senators some of those stacker “dietary supplements” let them stay up for days until they break the will of those that have protected Saudi Arabia from paying for 911 and have shamed Americas name by waging a war of aggression against Iraq instead… not just one night… do as Mike Gravel keeps calling for… an unending debate until they cant hack it any more… shame THEM…. as they have shamed US.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:03 pmTHIS is why we voted for you, thank god. Sadly the democrats will have to apply this tactic until the republicans lose their majority. Just make sure the world is watching, I know I’ll actually watch CSPAN tonight and I’m not really one for watching TV.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:03 pmIts a proven fact that Rove will simply turn on his propaganda machine and get this all-nighter squashed. Democrats are simply too honest and forthright to deal with these corrupt republicans; dems have proven that honesty throughout their tenure.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:03 pmWow. This must be really scaring the trolls. CT, Mr P, and ‘Unvarnished Truth’, in 39 posts? And Mr. P shown up in multiple postings? Daaaaaaayyyyuuuuum.
And on topic: HECK YEAH! ‘Bout freakin’ time. Keep doing it, Reid. Keep doing it, until either they cowtow or it’s posted far and wide for the entire US to see. Republicans, once the Up or Down party, ain’t so Up or Down anymore. Let’s erode their support some more. I like being in the largest group of the three….maybe my dad, Dem hating Republican he once was, will go I.
;)
July 16th, 2007 at 3:03 pmYes! This is what must be done. Let the public see who are the obstructionists; let them see who places party over persons; let the public see who are loyal to Bush for merely political reasons. Then let the public remember this when they come up for reelection.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:04 pmMr President,
Why do Republicans now HATE Up or Down votes?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:06 pmHe should have done this for the Dodd amendment last week! But thank goodness they are finally getting a clue!!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:06 pmUpdate from AP:
“Senator Reid says his all-nighter is going to symbolic in nature and that he will try his best to dream about breaking the filibuster as he sleeps soundly through the night.”
July 16th, 2007 at 3:07 pmMr. President,
Or “Why do the Republicans fear up or down votes”
July 16th, 2007 at 3:07 pmWhich phone book do you think the Republics will read first?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:07 pmRobert,
You beat me to it. That one was obvious I guess!!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:07 pmIntersting (NOT!)
Instead of debating, the opposers of said amendment are character attacking, not legislative.
F’ING TROLLS!
Meanwhile, after the threat, I’m curious as to what the approval rating of Congress will be.
My prediction: Much more favorable.
(side note to trolls: Please feel free to not address this post, as I have no inclination to respond to your drivel and incoherent, ad hominem attacks that pertain nothing to the topic)
..and one last ramblin’ before I leave..
FINALLY, SOME BALLZ!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:07 pmOUR TROOPS THANK YOU!!!
It’s about time!!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:08 pmThank goodness reid found his balls
Wowsey wowsey wow woww, do I havta stay up all night and stuff ? Just ask , “What would Israel do”?, and mark me down for that. oyyy
July 16th, 2007 at 3:08 pmComment by Robert — July 16, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
That stuff’s for defeatists! When you’re a part of the Grand Old Party, you don’t have time for none a that stuff.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:09 pmMuch more favorable? The dems will still be in the majority, the numbers can only go down. :)
July 16th, 2007 at 3:10 pmComment by Jeremy — July 16, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
Yeah, your fellow leftinites were reminding us of our “scuurd” state during the VP Cheney/funding cutoff thread.
Cheney’s funding is cut forever, so I suppose our “fear” was a real negative.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:10 pmOne more thing, Harry, call on your friend, Nancy Pelosi and tell her to put impeachment back on the table.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:10 pmAs scholars have said: the Constitution is in crisis today — impeachment is the cure.
Impeachment need not even mean that the criminals must leave office; the felons could remain in office (horror of horrors), but the proper procedural tool would have been implemented that would prevent the precedent of having an executive branch with unlimited power.
Hey, Mr. Prez. how’s you boy Osama?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:11 pmPass the popcorn and fire up the recording gear. This should make for some awesome footage for the 08 senate races. Who needs Oppo when we’ve got 24-7 C-SPAN.
Boo-yah, mothereffers.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:11 pmComment by Mr. President — July 16, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
double negative dumbass. Thanks for the reminder on what a dumbass you are Mr. President.
Keep up the predictable work.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:11 pmFinally Reid shows some balls…
ECHO…
ECHo…
ECho…
Echo…
echo…
July 16th, 2007 at 3:11 pmMaybe they should wait longer on any legislation relating to Iraq. It seems like slowly but surely the republicans are breaking rank and speaking in opposition to the war. Give it time and gain support rather than force this legislation before fellow legislators are ready.
Comment by francis — July 16, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
I think they have waited long enough on legislation relating to Iraq. We should not have to wait until the republicans are ready to do something.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:11 pmSometimes others are willing to jump into the pool with you. Sometimes you have to push them in.
Yay Harry!
We’re proud of you!
Now, just call it the “Honoring the Wishes of the American People by Protecting the Troops” bill and let the Repubs self-destruct…
July 16th, 2007 at 3:12 pmSeveral Republican Senators will die if they have to filibuster.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:12 pmComment by CT_V1 — July 16, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
CT, they never learn!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:12 pmThe Dhimmist ‘Fearful Loser party is doing its best to dig a hole it will never get out of.
DFL-Hating the troops since the 1960’s.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:12 pmYes Yes Yes Yes.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:13 pmGreat point Marie!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:14 pmReid still doen’t have the balls to mock a fallen soldier. That takes real balls. And an utter lack of character.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:15 pmOoooooooooooooooooooo, Reid on the warpath. NOW we have something to fear.
Symbolic resolution again, senator, do it for the troops!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:15 pmHe had to get the talking points out to his spokesblogs first so they could help make him look tough and active.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:15 pmI am crying (literally) with joy
July 16th, 2007 at 3:16 pmThe problem Art (as I see it anyway), is that regardless of the tactics, these people will not vote against the war just yet. Even if the legislation passes, Bush will veto, and without the support that I think we should wait for, it will die.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:17 pm“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president.”
-T. ROOSEVELT
July 16th, 2007 at 3:17 pmWow this really has the trolls worked up. I can almost see the spittle hitting the monitor.
On topic, I am hopeful, but this also means that Ried, and the rest of the dems need to stand up, and stick to their guns. Force the republicans who whined about having to work 5 days a week to continue working. sooner or later they will get sleepy and want their naps.
It also shows resolve to the American people, which is why the troll is freaking out. If the general public feels that dems can protect them better, and create a stable and non-crazy government. It will relegate the republicans to the backwater of politics for the next 50 years.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:18 pmReid had to get permission from Kos and MorOn.org before he could stand up and put on the warpaint. Wait….maybe the paper tigers here at TP made their thoughts known and pushed the good senator…wow, there is some clout here at TP.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:18 pmThe Republican trolls have resorted to insults so this must be a good thing.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:18 pmBlackwater sez:
Sounds like you have a problem with Reid requiring the obstructionist Repugs to actually be present during their filibusters. Why would that be so objectionable to you?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:18 pmA year ago the republicans were talking about taking away the fillibuster and all the spineless trolls were goosestepping to that. Now look at the rats.
Push this to an up or down vote. Get them all on record. Let the President veto this and bring up another bill and repeat the process.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:18 pmYaY!
Wowsers!
“A room with only my fellow plushy libecrat friends, no “trolls.” HeHe.”
LOL-sers
July 16th, 2007 at 3:19 pmI am crying (literally) with joy
Its ok, youre a lib, crying and whining comes naturally.
BOO!
Did you jump?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWhich phone book do you think the Republics will read first?
Comment by toasterhead
NOT the DC Madam’s
July 16th, 2007 at 3:20 pmMy, my, my - the troll is sounding a tad nervous today. Might it be frightened by all the sunlight flooding in?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:20 pmReid had to get permission from Kos and MorOn.org before he could stand up and put on the warpaint…
Comment by Blackwater — July 16, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
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That’s not warpaint, that’s make-up he took from Pelosi’s purse!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:20 pmDid you jump?
Comment by Son of Alabastera
No… did you do something?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:21 pmFrancis,
We cannot continue to wait until there is enough to override a veto.
We have to be able to tell which of the republicans are serious about taking a stand against the president. The ones who are up for reelection next are most in peril, and they know it. They are all too aware that their consitituents are watching very closely what they are doing.
It is a process, and we cannot wait until all the cards are in place and all the stars are alligned before positive action can be taken. It’s time to start leading them down the path.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:21 pmwithout the support that I think we should wait for, it will die.
Comment by francis — July 16, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
How long do you think we “should wait”?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:21 pmBongwater is misstaken. It’s the republican party that has to get permission to speak about a topic. that is until elections draw near. That’s when they pull their head out of Rove’s arse and see what their own districts want.
This scares the sh!t out of the trolls here.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:22 pmSymbolic resolution again, senator, do it for the troops!
Comment by Blackwater
And what exactly are YOU doing for the troops?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:22 pmSon of Alabastera sez:
ISLAM!
Did you wet your pants (again)?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:23 pmSounds like you have a problem with Reid requiring the obstructionist Repugs to actually be present during their filibusters. Why would that be so objectionable to you?
“Obstructionist” is a word libs pull out to try and paint repubs as doing something wrong, just as you have tried to disguise “liberal” with “progressive”.
I have no prob with having pols present during this operation, they certainly get paid enough, they can do some of this aggravating work like the rest of us. I just think that Reid, being the shallow, sallow, noodley corpse that he is, isnt believable as a strong leader.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:23 pmit [Reed/Levin] will die.
Comment by francis — July 16, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
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Agreed!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:24 pmOh, GREAT! He is going to force them to fillibuster, then tells them he’s folding his camp in the morning? That will really shake things up! It will keep three or four members up all night, and then everything back to normal. What an empty, useless gesture!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:24 pm“If Republicans do not allow a vote on Levin/Reed today or tomorrow, we will work straight through the night on Tuesday.”
Looks like all my special (R) Senator toyz are occupied.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:25 pmGuess that leaves me witout a date. Any of you reichwing trolls busy Tuesday night?
8, 12 and 16 - the first troll responses to this issue. And how do they respond?
8. Childish gibberish
12. Name-calling
16. “Typical” sterotyping and making fun of personal appearance
They don’t even bother an attempt to argue or defend anymore. Pathetic.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:26 pmKrazny, I wouldn’t go so far as to say ‘next fifty years’. Fifty years is 2 and a half generations. Don’t fall into the same trap the Republicans fell into. ‘100 year majority’, anyone?
Unless people are far stupider than I think they are, this is good for at least 4 years of Democratic control, if the dems are at least somewhat competent (read: Don’t royally screw the pooch). If they play this well, Republicans have 8 to 12 years of minority status ahead of them. Alot depends on what happens in the Democrats half of the house in the future, as well as how well the US holds up afterwards. In the long term, however, I think political forces will shift the Republicans back into power by 2030, maybe as early as in the 2020s. Assuming the Democrats will last until 2060 can scuttle that particular ship, bringing a Republican majority return in the 2010s…
July 16th, 2007 at 3:27 pmISLAM!
Did you wet your pants (again)?
No, everyone knows that islamic terrorism is a Rovian myth and that 911 was concocted by Bush to enslave the muslim world.
I still havent worked out how Bush and Rove control the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists, but give me time and Ill inven…I mean…find the evidence.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:28 pmNOT the DC Madam’s
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 16, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
Hehe well played! :)
July 16th, 2007 at 3:28 pmthey can do some of this aggravating work like the rest of us.
Comment by Blackwater — July 16, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
All of this typing is so aggravating!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:29 pmThat’s not warpaint, that’s make-up he took from Pelosi’s purse!
Comment by Mr. President — July 16, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:29 pmNo, everyone knows that islamic terrorism is a Rovian myth and that 911 was concocted by Bush to enslave the muslim world.
I still havent worked out how Bush and Rove control the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists, but give me time and Ill inven…I mean…find the evidence.
Comment by Son of Alabastera — July 16, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
July 16th, 2007 at 3:29 pm———————————————————————————–
LOL!!!
HEyOOOOoooOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOoooOOOOOOOOooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fair enough Jeremy, I was overstating the 50 year mark. I think however if the republicans keep supporting the failed war, which fewer and fewer are doing. And keep their heads in the sand when it comes to domestic issues, it will be longer then 4 years. Unless the dems royally screw up, like Clinton did with his affair. I am willing to bet, that without the lewinsky scandal hanging around the neck of the Gore, it would not have mattered how many votes the republicans stole in 200 to get Bush elected.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:30 pm“If Republicans do not allow a vote on Levin/Reed today or tomorrow, we will work straight through the night on Tuesday.â€
This is bound to break the Republicans’ will. We all saw last year that these guys HATE TO DO REAL WORK. It’s Monday afternoon and the Republicans are probably already thinking about hopping on a plane for the weekend.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:31 pmComment by Vice President Bush — July 16, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Harry Reid isn’t exactly bright. His tactic will backfire, it’s a no-brainer.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:31 pmBeats me margaret, as I said, seems like they are slowly but surely turning against the war and breaking the republican ranks. Wait till it looks like 2/3 support? Even then, I doubt they’d vote to overturn a veto.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:32 pmReid found his balls!
Too bad he lost them when he gave the President a blank check. But I suppose we can forgive him if this works. Of course, there’s still blood on his hands…
~Sean
July 16th, 2007 at 3:32 pmAlright, we’re now up to 5 trolls in 109 posts, with Mr. P, CT, and blackwater coming out. Maaan, this must be big with them. And the sad thing is it’s such a halting first step! And I know they’ll crow to the high heavens when Reid is forced to back down. Maybe hoping to discourage us from pushing hard for this again?
What’s got the trolls so worked up?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:33 pmBlackwater sez:
Ah ha ha
Ah ha ha ha
Ah ha ha ha ha
Ah ha ha ha ha ha
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha
Thanks…I needed a good laugh.
First, if you can’t call the Repukes mapping out a strategy for blocking all Democratic legislation until the August recess ‘obstructionist’, I’d really like to see in what context you’d deem the word fitting.
Second, ‘obstructionist’ was a perfectly good word for you trolls to bandy about during the last Congress…what’s wrong with it now?
There’s more to your post, but, sadly, it merits no reply.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:33 pmLooks like all my special (R) Senator toyz are occupied.
Guess that leaves me witout a date. Any of you reichwing trolls busy Tuesday night?
Let me check the schedule of the male prosti..er..male ‘escort’ service my life-partner runs out of our apartment and see if Im available.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:33 pmHey, I would be willing to FLY to Washington DC and physically prop up BOTH my state’s Senators (Wyden AND Smith) and poke them everytime they started to drift off while they were talking if this could help force movement on ANY legislation to stop this Administration and change the direction of this war and bring it to an end!!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:33 pmHarry Reid isn’t exactly bright.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 16, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
But not so stupid as to malign a dead soldier.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:34 pm“If Republicans do not allow a vote on Levin/Reed today or tomorrow, we will work straight through the night on Tuesday.”
Oh, for the old days, when Denny Hasturd was here to leave a dirty bomb in the Senate Men’s washroom so we could all leave early.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:35 pmNO Brainer CT? Did you get medical training from Frist?
Don’t you want to see the republicans stand up and vote what they were told to, or what they believe in? Their vote is the voice of the people. A fillibuster tries to quiet that voice.
The panic in the trolls postings are palpable. Amazing how much their positions can change about the value of the fillibuster.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:35 pmKrazny: Yeah, just trying to make sure that that which infects the Republicans and the trolls that are their quite useful tools…(hehehe)…doesn’t infect the Democratic side of things. Fight injustice every step of the way, don’t let it take hold of your house, and remember: What the voters giveth, they can taketh away.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:35 pmI don’t get the reference to “reading the phone book”. What does that mean please?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:36 pm“Obstructionist†is a word libs pull out to try and paint repubs as doing something wrong, just as you have tried to disguise “liberal†with “progressiveâ€.
No it’s the word Republicans used to defeat Tom Daschle. They used that word constantly. Not that I expect a cockroach like you to remember anything of substance.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:37 pmIgnoranceIsNotBliss:
I believe it refers to a filibuster in the past where the Senators were forced to actually speak on a topic. I’m not finding any real sources for it (not that I spent much effort), but one way it was claimed that they spoke was finding a phone book and reading names.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:38 pmHey senators… dont ever forget .. SOMEONE from within the USA sent ANTHRAX letters to you a few years ago… isnt it payback time yet?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:39 pmComment by Egreggious — July 16, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Kid, shut it if you have no proof. A smart person would contact TP for the culprit, but you wont because you enjoy posturing and pushing false accusations.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:39 pmIt’s Monday afternoon and the Republicans are probably already thinking about hopping on a plane for the weekend.
Yeah but they are ridesharing on Pelosi’s new C-130 Galaxy though on a space-available basis only; America’s Grandmother needs room for her friends, family, staff, acquaintances, fans and pet gerbil ya know!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:39 pmI believe it refers to a filibuster in the past where the Senators were forced to actually speak on a topic. I’m not finding any real sources for it (not that I spent much effort), but one way it was claimed that they spoke was finding a phone book and reading names.
Comment by Jeremy — July 16, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Exactly!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:40 pmBeats me margaret, as I said, seems like they are slowly but surely turning against the war and breaking the republican ranks. Wait till it looks like 2/3 support? Even then, I doubt they’d vote to overturn a veto.
Comment by francis — July 16, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
Then I don’t see any reason to wait a second longer!
BTW - I don’t see even a whisper about this on any of the MSM web sites.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:42 pmMan, Egreggious. I think you touched a nerve. Ole CT, however, is too dense to figure that since he acts like Mr. P and Jake and all the rest of the cow manure that seems to be the only thing the Cons can scare up for this blog, we all suspect that he and the rest of the trolls that make Trolls go “Me think they too dumb to be part of tribe” are the same person
July 16th, 2007 at 3:42 pmComment by CT_V1 — July 16, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
Just ignore the anti-troll trolls, they are trying to derail the thread!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:43 pmIGNORE THE IDIOT ANTI-TROLL TROLLS, regular TROLLS!!!
Weren’t the Republicans going to toss the filibuster rules over SCOTUS?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:43 pmLOL I can’t remember. Man these Republicans slooged their breeches when they actually gained power through fear. We of course knew they were too stupid to hold onto it.
francis
The time to wait, was four years ago. The time to act is now. If the Democrats get their bill vetoed, guess what? They can just present another one, and another one, and another one until finally the Reps who are going to break away do so because they have no choice.
Keep the pressure on the Republicans and they will collapse, because they are a weak and cowardly movement made up of a weak and cowardly people.
That said, if Bush continues to veto Democrat bills, he is going to hit a point where the next thing out of Congress he sees are articles of impeachment. If the Dems aren’t going to be able to get anything else done anyway, they may as well play to their base.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:43 pmWhy isn’t that liberal media all over this? Maybe because vast majority of the media isn’t liberal.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:44 pmNo it’s the word Republicans used to defeat Tom Daschle. They used that word constantly. Not that I expect a cockroach like you to remember anything of substance.
No, its the word that dems are using now in an attempt to malign the repubs as doing something wrong.
Listen you knuckle dragger, we CAN find some common ground here. The repubs can simply resurrect Pelosi’s ‘Minority Bill of Rights’ and get an equal say on whatever the majority decides.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:45 pmMr. President,
There is a part of me that wishes you actually were innocent of defaming a fallen Soldier.
There is a part of me that wishes you knew what it felt like to be unjustly accused of an evil act, and to be persecuted for it nonetheless.
Then you might get an inkling of what it might be like to be handed over to the authorities in return for a mere bounty, to be carted off to a fortress on Cuba’s shores, to be tortured within an inch of your life, with all deaf to your pleas of innocence, with no habeas corpus, no access to a court to hear your side of the story, locked forever in a dank, dark cell accused of a crime with no one there to prove you didn’t commit it.
Whine, as you did last night, about your ill-treatment. This is nothing. This is but a little cyberspace ridicule in a place you choose to frequent of your own free will. This is no Gitmo.
And don’t bother to complain of injustice. You have sh*t upon the Constitution, showed no regard for the rule of law, and cheered when a man who had committed treason was set free by a president with complicity in the crime. Don’t bother to talk to me about justice. Don’t bother to talk to me about decency. Don’t bother to talk to me about America. You have no idea what these things are, punk. Take your case to the Attorney General.
Your very existence is an insult to every Soldier who fought and died for principles you cannot begin to grasp. Your attempt to insult one of those Soldiers here was simply the last straw.
I’m taking you on, motherf***er. I’m taking you on, as you blissfully sit in your mother’s dress in your basement enjoying those remaining freedoms that American Soldiers in the past have fought so hard to win for you.
And when, at last, there is a knock on the door and they come for you, don’t say I didn’t warn you.
There is a part of me that wishes you actually were innocent.
And there is a part of me that doesn’t give a damn.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:46 pmGerald Gibson sez:
Indeed…anthrax spores that were weaponized using a proprietary procedure known only to the American military.
In other words, American anthrax.
Interesting…one has to wonder how the “terrorists” were able to come by such material…
July 16th, 2007 at 3:46 pmThis is a good first step on the part of the Democrats. Ratings for Congress and the Congressional Democrats have fallen because they have failed to take aggressive action on this issue. The Democrats need to force votes on the Republicans in a number of areas that will demonstrate that they are blocking the will of the American people. The Republicans publicly stated that their strategy was to act as obstructionists to prevent any significant legislation by the Democrats. They need to be forced to demonstrate their commitment in areas such as Iraq, campaign reform and other significant areas. The Dems need to develop a commercial citing the Republicans saying that they would act as obstructionists and highlighting the latest legisaltion killed by the Repbublicans with a list in the background of others bills obstructed with the message that progress can only be made with larger Democratic control in both houses.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:47 pm“I’m spending my political capital! I’m spending my political capital! “
Muahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 3:48 pmYAYYYYYYYY
July 16th, 2007 at 3:49 pmTripMaster Monkey
Also interesting just who those Anthrax letters were mailed to - war opponents.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:50 pmWhile I agree that the Republicans are weak and cowardly for the most part, I don’t think they’ll break because of bill after bill calling for withdrawal. This is a waste of time. There are plenty of other issues that can be brought up and possibly resolved in some manner. I can’t see the Congress winning the withdrawal of troops battle, not right now anyway, and not simply by trying over and over again. It’s been said that a definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:54 pmBruce Gorton sez:
Exactly, guaranteeing enough additional hysteria to ensure passage of the PATRIOT Act and committal to the Iraq invasion.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:55 pmFilibuster 101: http://www.slate.com/id/2078519/
Has it occurred to our resident spastic trollorama that it would actually be a good idea to get the GIs outta Iraq before the bombing of Iran starts? Or one would have “Lost Legion: Part II”
July 16th, 2007 at 3:55 pmIndeed…anthrax spores that were weaponized using a proprietary procedure known only to the American military.
In other words, American anthrax.
Interesting…one has to wonder how the “terrorists†were able to come by such material…
Cue the scary music.
Here is a clue for ya, the military isnt in the habit of executing every person who leaves the military (it only executes Iraqi civilians, hat tip: Murtha).
This means that people with expertise in certain highly-secret fields such as nuclear sub capabilities, weapons design, military codes and yes, weaponizing anthrax, are going to be mingling with the general populace and perhaps grinding an axe against someone they dont like.
Lord, why do I have to explain everything to you people? Does EVERYTHING have to be a conspiracy, cant you just take a week off every now and then?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:56 pmComment by Bruce Gorton — July 16, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
Also interesting is the lack of follow thru to hunt those responsible down. That is until I remember that OBL hasn’t been tracked down yet. Tough talk but no real action from this administration.
Egreggious Rocks.
July 16th, 2007 at 3:58 pmMan, Egreggious. I think you touched a nerve. Ole CT, however, is too dense to figure that since he acts like Mr. P and Jake and all the rest of the cow manure that seems to be the only thing the Cons can scare up for this blog, we all suspect that he and the rest of the trolls that make Trolls go “Me think they too dumb to be part of tribe†are the same person
Comment by Jeremy — July 16, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
They support whatever another troll does, so even if they are not the same person, they should be treated as such. Let them twist in the wind…..
July 16th, 2007 at 3:58 pmLord, why do I have to explain everything to you people? Does EVERYTHING have to be a conspiracy, cant you just take a week off every now and then?
Comment by Blackwater — July 16, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Uhh yeah sure, because I commonly have Anthrax lying around the house, and a few billion in special equipment to weaponize.
Umm how was the ride on the short bus today?
July 16th, 2007 at 3:58 pmComment by Mr. President — July 16, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Well, ok, Mr. President. The libecrat trolls will be ignored in regards to their posturing and exploitation.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:02 pmThese lefty trolls are getting out of hand.
Always a conspiracy to believe the US government is dirty yet they cant believe that muslim terrorists, who slaughter someone every single day of the year, are capable of anything worse than giving us a mean look.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:02 pmBlackwater sez:
You can’t be serious. You’re actually expecting us to believe that a certain disgruntled ex-governmental employee put together a lab in his basement and proceeded to weaponize anthrax?
Do you even know what “weaponized anthrax” is?
Can you list the countries that have been successful in producing “weaponized anthrax”?
July 16th, 2007 at 4:03 pmThrough Tuesday hell!!! Through doomsday!!!! Don’t adjourn EVER!!! I’m just so sick of seeing headlines that don’t reflect what is actually happening. The Repubs are obstructing ALL LEGISLATION. This has to stop.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:04 pm“Has it occurred to our resident spastic trollorama that it would actually be a good idea to get the GIs outta Iraq before the bombing of Iran starts? Or one would have “Lost Legion: Part IIâ€
Comment by Troll Hater — July 16, 2007 @ 3:55 pm”
Hah! Why get them out? Why not just leave them there until it’s Iran’s turn, then we can just march them right over to Iran!!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:05 pmThese lefty trolls are getting out of hand.
Always a conspiracy to believe the US government is dirty yet they cant believe that muslim terrorists, who slaughter someone every single day of the year, are capable of anything worse than giving us a mean look.
Comment by Son of Alabastera — July 16, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Tell me about it, it’s like they think if leave Iraq, Muslims would shake our hands in the future and give us hugs.
Come on, Leftists, Wake UP!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:05 pmWrong dumb ass.
It is possible for BOTH the government to be fu*ked up AND terrorists to bomb sh!t AND the fu*ked up government to take advantage of terrorists by blowing sh!T up themselves and blaming it on the terrorist and then you people just falling for it over and over and over.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:05 pmApparently the Anthrax was not necessarily from the US:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2006/ 09/ 29/ fbi_anthrax_attacks/
(but of course the nature of that particular attack points directly to US-internal wingnuttery, as explained for example here: http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j022202.html)
July 16th, 2007 at 4:06 pm*psst* TripMaster Monkey. You’re asking a retard who has to resort to words like libtard to (fail to) make his point. They aren’t gonna get this advanced thinking you’re expecting them to get. *wink* All they know is that the brown people on the sand are gonna get’em!!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:07 pmUhh yeah sure, because I commonly have Anthrax lying around the house, and a few billion in special equipment to weaponize.
Umm how was the ride on the short bus today?
Uhh, because weaponized anthrax could have been taken from a facility in the same way that top-secret documents, laptops and other stuff are removed illicitly (maybe down their pants ala Sandy Berger). Just because you give the person a clearance, doesnt mean they will always honor it.
Id suggest a tutor, perhaps they can assist with your obviously-lacking cognitive ability.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:07 pmDems start to cave on threat in 5…4…3…2…
The reason i think Congress’ approval ranking is so low is that repubs are 100% against them now that its is controlled by Dems, and 50+% of Dems are dissatisfied because they aren’t getting anything done that we put them there for. Make an effort dammit, make them come out and oppose you and give reasons, then shoot those reasons DOWN!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:10 pmApparently the Anthrax was not necessarily from the US:
I’m sorry, is Maryland no longer a part of the US?
July 16th, 2007 at 4:10 pmGreat start, Harry!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:10 pmYeah, the right wing nut probably just put some in his pocket and walked right out the door. You know how lax they are in top secret government facilities.
Jeebus!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:12 pm> Hah! Why get them out? Why not just leave them there until it’s Iran’s > turn, then we can just march them right over to Iran!!
In that case expect a few more casualties than the lousy 4000. What about 60′000? Also, is there enough slack left after 4 yours of overextension to go for another, bigger round? I don’t think so. And don’t forget that Iran knows how to terror, unlike, say Iraq.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:12 pmBlackwater
From New Scientist:
‘The DNA sequence of the anthrax sent through the US mail in 2001 has been revealed and confirms suspicions that the bacteria originally came from a US military laboratory. The data released uses codenames for the reference strains against which the attack strain was compared. The two reference strains that appear identical to the attack strain most likely originated at the US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick (USAMRIID), Maryland.
The new work also shows that substantial genetic differences can emerge in two samples of an anthrax culture separated for only three years. This means the attacker’s anthrax was not separated from its ancestors at USAMRIID for many generations.’
In other words, durrrrr.
francis
Frankly, what other issues? The Reps are going to fight every one of them and there will be a veto if any of them pass. You can take healthcare, the enviroment, stem cell research, gun control, abortion, religion in your schools, the repeal of the Patriot Act etc… and not a single issue will be decided.
Iraq is the line in the sand. It is the big issue, it is the elephant in the room, and it is urgent because every hour wasted on it coming to a resolution costs peoples lives.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:12 pmYeah, if a post is signed by Mr. P(rick) or CT_V1….just skip over it, it will be pure drivel from america’s low life trailer scum anyway, they post pure crap, and lots of it.
Time to show the repukian mafia for what it is, go get ‘em Harry.
Butt Slush the favorite slurpy of CT_V1
July 16th, 2007 at 4:12 pm#136 Blackwater
Listen you knuckle dragger, we CAN find some common ground here. The repubs can simply resurrect Pelosi’s ‘Minority Bill of Rights’ and get an equal say on whatever the majority decides.
You righties had your chance. But, you can beg for it, if you think that’ll help.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:13 pmJG - What part of “not necessarily” do you not understand?
July 16th, 2007 at 4:13 pmActually, Democrats in Congress are doing well in comparison to the Republicans:
A Washington Post/ABC News poll, which recorded a 44 percent overall approval rating for Congress, showed a 54 percent approval rating for the majority “Democrats in Congress” and 39 percent approval rating for the minority “Republicans in Congress.” By contrast, the majority Republicans received approval ratings of 35 (October 8, 2006), 33 (May 15, 2006), 35 (November 2, 2005), and 42 (June 5, 2006) percent in Washington Post-ABC News polls during the previous Congress. The minority Democrats received 48, 39, 41, and 42 percent approval ratings in those respective polls.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-srv/ politics/ polls/ postpoll_041607.html
July 16th, 2007 at 4:13 pmWrong dumb ass.
It is possible for BOTH the government to be fu*ked up AND terrorists to bomb sh!t AND the fu*ked up government to take advantage of terrorists by blowing sh!T up themselves and blaming it on the terrorist and then you people just falling for it over and over and over.
Yeah its possible, but you libs have taken it as fact with harebrained theories and wild accusations based on nothing more than ‘proof’ by some guy who burns down a balsawood model of the WTC to prove it was bombs and not planes that destroyed them.
Its just too obvious and inconsistent. Bush wins in 2004 and you go nuts, screaming about Diebold hacking the machines. Then in 2006 you win and suddenly those same machines are fair and the process was fine and happiness and bunnies and goodness.
When you lose again in 2008 you will resurrect the same tired crap about black vans disappearing black voters and Diebold operatives working out of Cheney’s office to hack the voting machines.
Youre kookified, the problem is that so many of you have become kookified that the few sane libs who are left are starting to thing THEY are the insane ones and the DFL is sliding over the edge of insanity.
Kooks.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:15 pmWell, you’re probably right. They would fight any issue the Democrats brought up, regardless of what it is. That’s the problem with politics I suppose.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:16 pmSorry..
July 16th, 2007 at 4:17 pmThey support whatever another troll does, so even if they are not the same person, they should be treated as such. Let them twist in the wind…..
Comment by Zooey
When you step in dog sh!t, you don’t worry about whether it was dropped by a shepherd or a Lab, you just scrape it off and curse the human who should have cleaned it up. The trolls here are all the same smeary, stinky pile whether there are two of them or ten. Makes no difference which one wrote any single post; it’s all just sh!t.
July 16th, 2007 at 4:18 pmComment by Bruce Gorton — July 16, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Thanks for the refresher on the Anthrax. One would assume that with the amount of evidence they have on the Anthrax and it’s origin that they could Increase the search for the terrorists who sent the Anthrax.
Why isn’t that a priority? (Yeah, I already know the answer).
July 16th, 2007 at 4:18 pmIf he really is now about ACTION and not his usual talk is cheap rhetoric, he will regain our trust.
Please I hope he does follow throught this time and not let us down.
Us being We The People!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:20 pmId suggest a tutor, perhaps they can assist with your obviously-lacking cognitive ability.
Comment by Blackwater — July 16, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
This coming from a guy who thinks you can stick WMD’s in to your front pocket and walk out of a secure facility. Hehehe
July 16th, 2007 at 4:20 pmUh Oh…
Someone mentioned WTC, Diebold, Bush, and Cheney all in the same post….
If he would have mentioned one more peice of the puzzle… but what could that be?
Oh yeah! The JOoooooOOOoooOOoos!!!!
!*!A!*!C!*!E!*!
!!!!!CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 4:20 pmIt’s too bad that it’s too late for us. Our Constitutional Republic has been subverted. Historians will tell us, “The office of the President of the United States was truly abolished when George W. Bush signed the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive (NSPD 51/HSPD 20), followed by the beginnings of the Executive Branch takeover of the Constitutional Republic (See: executive privilege, Congressional subpoena).”
July 16th, 2007 at 4:21 pmHistorians will say, “The United States of America truly died when martial law was declared in the final year of Bush 43’s presidency as a ’security measure’, in response to attacks on U.S. citizens in retaliation for their government’s invasions of Iraq, Iran and the greater Middle Eastern conflict.”
Yeah, the right wing nut probably just put some in his pocket and walked right out the door. You know how lax they are in top secret government facilities.
Jeebus!
You should figure out how the Russians and Chinese manage to steal so many secrets; ever wonder why the late-model Russian jet fighters look so similar to ours? Google “chinese spies in US”. You dont seem bright enough to understand this but Ill try anyway: who watches the watchers?
BTW, how do you know the guy was “right wing”? Perhaps it was an early form of Cindy Sheehan?
July 16th, 2007 at 4:21 pmgummitch @ 4:18pm:
LOL!
Well, they do drop $#!+ alot. Again, why won’t TP just put the comment line before the post? Then I see Comment by Mr. President, and I skip to the next number…
Granted, with how much the Loony Toon Con’s lie and change their names and so on, we STILL need registration. God, I’d love to see Mr. P p*ssing in the wind…
July 16th, 2007 at 4:23 pm