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Rumsfeld ‘invited’ to testify about Pat Tillman.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee announced today they will hold a hearing on August 1, 2007, looking into “what the leadership of the Defense Department knew” about the friendly fire death of U.S. Army Corporal Patrick Tillman in Afghanistan. Invited to testify: former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.



54 Responses to “Rumsfeld ‘invited’ to testify about Pat Tillman.”

  1. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Did the invite include an orange jumpsuit and a nice shiny pair of bracelets for BigDick to wear?


  2. JG says:

    They honestly expect Rumsfeld to tell the truth about ANYTHING??? Come on..


  3. Badmoodman says:

    Rumsfeld is too busy covertly planning the Iran War. Buzz off.


  4. JG says:

    Maybe if they strap him to a chair and slip him some ‘veritaserum’…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritaserum


  5. JG says:

    umm, that was an attempt at humor..


  6. chadwick says:

  7. JG says:

    I really feel for the family. The truth is never going to be fully exposed or known. It is a tragedy of epic proportions.


  8. JG says:

    The river of corruption runs deep and wide…


  9. hil says:

    i thought they shipped rummy off to the farm…


  10. ace says:

    umsfeld is too busy covertly planning the Iran War. Buzz off.

    Comment by Badmoodman — July 16, 2007 @ 1:31 pm

    Precisely what he is up to…along with GHW Bush, Schwarzkopf, Franks, Kissinger and the rest of the SHADOW GOVERNMENT.


  11. BobJonestheAllstar says:

    I was serving in Iraq when Tillman was killed. It came down the wires, and we knew it was friendly fire, well before it was corrupted into propoganda for the administration to use, thus compounding a tragedy with a travesty.


  12. squegeeboo says:

    ace
    Precisely what he is up to…along with GHW Bush, Schwarzkopf, Franks, Kissinger and the rest of the SHADOW GOVERNMENT.

    The Tories are involved?


  13. Crump's Brother says:

    Sweet. Then we can listen to him answer questions with questions.


  14. Pete Bogs says:

    let me guess – he will decline due to “executive privilege”


  15. D. Rumsfeld says:

    What day did you say that was? Sorry, I’m busy.

    What’s that? You’ll reschedule to accommodate me?

    No, sorry, I can pretty much guarantee I’ll be busy whenever you schedule this little get-together.

    Sub-what?

    What-”peena”?

    What-what?

    Sorry, never heard of it. Look, I gotta go, fred fielding’s on the other line.


  16. Republicans Can't Govern. says:

    Why would Republicans, who purport to “support the troops” lie to Pat Tillman’s family about how he was killed?

    “In its rush to honor the high profile NFL hero, the Army failed miserably in telling Tillman’s family the truth, reports CBS News national security correspondent David Martin. The Army waited 35 days to tell the family the truth, leaving Tillman’s father in the dark at a nationally televised memorial service. . . .

    ‘No one who knew Pat ever doubted his physical or moral courage,’ the family wrote. ‘But the award of the Silver Star appears more than anything to be part of a cynical design to conceal the real events from the family and the public, while exploiting the death of our beloved Pat as a recruitment poster.’

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/27/national/main2611607.shtml


  17. veritas says:

    Rumsfled, the master of orwellian double speak, is being seriously asked to come to testify? Is this some kind of sadistic joke?? Rumsfeld, Cheney’s sidekick, along with Bush 41 wrote the book on “Sadism: The American Way” which means lying in the face of Congress and twisting every truth until it bears absolutely no resemblence to the facts involved. If you ask me, this triumverate (Bush 41, Cheney, Rumsfeld) have been and still function in this country as our very own, personal “AXIS OF EVIL”.

    If I were a member of congress, I woudn’t want that demented, sick individual to sit within 20 feet of me! His darkness is contagious, of that we can now be certain.


  18. JG says:

    “There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know. ”

    Donald Rumsfeld

    Expect more of this crap.


  19. The Dogfather says:

    I wonder if Rummy DOES testify, if he’ll discuss known-knowns, known-unknowns or unknown-unknowns.

    Or maybe he’ll just outright lie like he did when he was on the Good Ship Rove with the rest of the criminals?


  20. ace says:

    “Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”

    Michael Rivera


  21. RUCerious says:

    How bout putting him up on the side of a mountain and using him for special forces target practice???


  22. The Dogfather says:

    wow, JG — same wavelength much?


  23. ace says:

    Military’s Information War Is Vast and Often Secretive

    By JEFF GERTH

    “The media center in Fayetteville, N.C., would be the envy of any global communications company …

    “The center is not part of a news organization, but a military operation, and those writers and producers are soldiers. The 1,200-strong psychological operations unit based at Fort Bragg turns out what its officers call “truthful messages” to support the United States government’s objectives, though its commander acknowledges that those stories are one-sided and their American sponsorship is hidden.

    “We call our stuff information and the enemy’s propaganda,” said Col. Jack N. Summe, then the commander of the Fourth Psychological Operations Group, during a tour in June. Even in the Pentagon, “some public affairs professionals see us unfavorably,” and inaccurately, he said, as “lying, dirty tricksters.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/politics/11propaganda.html?pagewa


  24. veritas says:

    The Tillman family deserve a HUGE apology, along with reparations of some kind, for all of the human suffering and damage this family has sustained not only by having their heroic son killed by “friendly fire” but the fact that Bush then used him to further his war mongering during which time this family was told a pack of lies about what really happened to their son. This is “high crime” of the most serious kind and Bush & Co. should be prosecuted and impeached for this along…..

    not to mention treasonous outing of a covert CIA agent who could have suffered this same fate when they outed her along with her contacts all over the world!

    These sickos have absolutely no sense of morality and would pimp their own daughters and sell their own grand children for an almighty buck, more power, and the need to be “right”. They make the term “egomania” sound benign.


  25. veritas says:

    #18 Yes, there are “known knowns” and the KnownKnown is that Rumsfeld is a liar and traitor to this government.


  26. ace says:

    Karl Rove INVENTED the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) for one purpose. TOTAL MESSAGE CONTROL.

    Rove is a genious…an evil genious.

    He can only be effective when he knows literally everything. He is the REALITY CREATION ARCHITECT.

    At any given time he can take a set of actual facts and use each of them to stitch together a totally false reality.

    Rove knew that the truth was the enemy of their conspiracy to conquer the Middle East (the PNAC plan). His job, every single day, is to convince you, me and the rest of the world that you didn’t just see and hear what you just saw and heard…or if you did, it doesn’t mean what your logical mind is attempting to tell you – because “we’re in a post-9/11 world now” and black is white.

    Karl Rove is the single most destructive force in the US Government…the enabler of the entire evil scheme…THE ARCHITECT.

    The scheme includes 9/11 as the essential pretext. “9/11″ … how clever, Karl! Only someone with American sensibilities would select the number we have all memorized to call in the event of life threatening emergency as the date for this evil….

    KARL ROVE.

    The war plan to invade Iraq was written BEFORE 9/11. The Secret Energy Task Force meetings that Cheney had with Ken Lay and the other OIL HOGS during which they all decided how to divide up the oil fields of the Middle East…all of that was BEFORE 9/11.

    Now you see why Cheney insisted the substance of those talks remain SECRET.

    All of their schemes and conspiracies REQUIRED 9/11 as the essential trigger.

    Cheney outsourced the implementation of the FALSE FLAG OPERATION to Mossad…the FALSE FLAG experts. This explains why over 200 Mossad agents were operating in the United States prior to 9/11. This explains why five of them were arrested, having been observed filming the planes hitting the towers and their subsequent collapse – celebrating our worst nightmare.

    9/11 was not a bad day for those involved in the Conspiracy. It was their shining moment…their PRETEXT.

    One of them washed out…couldn’t cope with the guilt. Ari Fleisher had to be replaced, and disappeared. Not dead, but out of sight.

    The outing of Plame was designed to destroy the best WMD intelligence the US had at its disposal regarding Iraq. Plame knew for a FACT that Iraq had no WMD. It was HER JOB to know. Therefore Rove perceived Plame (the truth) as his WORST ENEMY, and conceived of a plan to silence her. Rove is the individual who insisted that Wilson be sent to Niger.

    GUARANTEED.

    This was the only way to launch a smear program which appeared to be aimed at Wilson, but was intended solely to shut down the entire Brewster Jennings operation and bury their WMD evidence.

    THAT IS ALL ROVE.

    He invented WHIG:

    The group’s members included Rove, Bush advisor Karen Hughes, Senior Advisor to the Vice President Mary Matalin, Deputy Director of Communications James Wilkinson, Assistant to the President and Legislative Liaison Nicholas Calio, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby.

    Every single one of these individuals is a co-conspirator in a concerted effort to defraud America into committing its troops and its treasure to invade a foreign country to the sole benefit of BIG OIL AND ISRAEL.

    The pending invasion of Iran is the next phase of the very same conspiracy. Karen Kwiatkowski let us know that Larry Franklin had set up an IRAN desk in the midst of the Pentagon’s IRAQ planners. Larry Franklin has pled guilty for passing Top Secret Iranian Intelligence to AIPAC (Israel). Israeli Generals were free to come and go from the Cheney/Rumsfeld Office Of Middle East Invasion whenever they pleased, without need to sign the guest register.

    IT’S ALL THE SAME CONSPIRACY.

    9/11 – Afghanistan – Iraq – Iran – Syria.

    READ THE PNAC.

    A “New Pearl Harbor” was a REQUIREMENT for its implementation.

    Rove is running the entire PsyOps Machine to enable it.

    Hang them for TREASON.

    http://dailydocket.blogspot.com/2006/01/propaganda.html

    But whereas Hitler was a true master of propaganda, and his minister a far less talented functionary, today the situation is reversed: our propaganda minister is the master, and our leader his functionary. Karl Rove is so confident of his strategy that he now announces it to the public! In January of this year,

    Rove noted that we face “a ruthless enemy” and “need a commander in chief and a Congress who understand the nature of the threat and the gravity of the moment America finds itself in.”

    Here’s more:

    “[T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

    — Karl Rove (oops!) Hermann Goering


  27. Zooey says:

    umm, that was an attempt at humor..
    Comment by JG

    Brilliant!


  28. veritas says:

    If this creep even shows, why would anyone waste their time to watch a “Known Known Liar” lie some more??


  29. veritas says:

    Hey Ace! Would that be the false flag operation on 911???? Methinks so.


  30. Mr. President says:

    Oh… I guess this is now the a.c.e. thread… my bad, I’ll be leaving now…

    (psst., hey a.c.e., c.o.n.s.p.i.r.a.c.y… shhh)


  31. ace says:

    According to the US Government’s own website which is specifically designed to debunk conspiracy theories:

    http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jun/28-581634.html...

    With regard to the World Trade Center attacks, Mr. Meyssan ignores or dismisses the facts that:

    “THE GOVERNMENT DECLARES):

    “Boeing commercial aircraft can not be remotely controlled”

    This assertion is false.

    Dov Zakheim was the Pentagon’s comptroller and CFO during 9/11. Over $3 trillion is unaccounted for during his tenure. He was (is?) Corporate VP at System Planning Corporation, a major player in the “Homeland Security” industry. One of the products that SysPlan sells is the Command Transmitter System, a remote control system for planes, boats, missiles and other vehicles2 . It’s highly customable and configurable to interface with an almost limitless number of vehicle types.

    The CTS is a tunable UHF FM transmitter designed for ground use in controlling guided missiles, pilotless aircraft and pilotless boats.

    Many takeoff and lending tests were performed using this system on a commercial size Boeing aircraft under the supervision of Raytheon in the days prior to 9/11.

    If the pilot is not in direct control and another mechanism is controlling (not just receiving passive signals or sensing) the craft, especially from GPS, it is effectively ‘remotely’ controlled. The link between ground crews, GPS and aircraft have been established. It’s not a cruise control and it’s not a radio controlled toy car. We’re talking FULL avionics AND navigation from take-off to touch down controlled and guided by a known and documented satellite link. “A fully integrated flight management computer system (FMCS) provides for automatic guidance and control of the 757-200 from immediately after takeoff to final approach and landing. Linking together digital processors controlling navigation, guidance and engine thrust, the flight management system assures that the aircraft flies the most efficient route and flight profile for reduced fuel consumption, flight time and crew workload. The precision of global positioning satellite (GPS) system navigation, automated air traffic control functions, and advanced guidance and communications features are now available as part of the new Future Air Navigation System (FANS) flight management computer.” This technology could effectively PREVENT the hijack of aircraft. Any deviation from the course would trigger the system and someone would know about it. We’re working to verify if American Airlines does have this technology installed in any of its fleet. Suppose they do have this technology installed… Why not key in a coordinate or code to have a hijacked aircraft automatically land at a predesignated, properly prepared airfield prepped for such eventualities. I can only assume that our “planners” do indeed think in terms of hostile contingencies and have this scenario worked out. This all begs the questions: why wasn’t this critical technology used, or was it abused?

    http://www.humanunderground.com/11september/pent-feasible.html


  32. ace says:

    http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/raytheon-connection-to-9-11

    Americans (too many) do not know that Raytheon executives were killed on 9-11, or at least wound up permanently missing, which may be a more accurate way of saying it. It is who wound up missing that is most interesting.

    This is an excerpt of the email we received and is information that we knew as of the issuance of the flight manifests for all four of the planes allegedly involved in 9-11:

    Subject: Raytheon and 9/11

    OK, I’m not gonna say anything here, except to let you read the evidence and then you can tell me what you think. (These are people who supposedly died on 9/11.) Mike

    Raytheon and 9/11

    2001-09-11 Stanley Hall Raytheon Director of Electronic warfare program management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 77, the one that supposedly hit the Pentagon but did not.

    2001-09-11 Peter Gay Raytheon VP of Electronic Systems on special assignment at the El Segundo, CA division office where the Global Hawk UAV remote control system is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.

    2001-09-11 Kenneth Waldie Raytheon Senior Quality Control for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.

    2001-09-11 David Kovalcin Raytheon Senior Mechanical Engineer for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.

    2001-09-11 Herbert Homer Raytheon Corporate Executive working with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on United airlines Flight 175, the one that supposedly hit the South World Trade Tower II.

    These are not only the type of people but they are the people that would be assigned to UAV type projects involving Mode 4 and Mode 5 upgrades. Why would they be in Boston and those planes coming from that direction and from north of Manhattan Island?

    That 16 foot tunnel through three rings of the Pentagon is only made by a directional blast weapon. Rumsfeld has even slipped up and mentioned the missile that hit the Pentagon.

    Some have seen the Pentagon parking lot camera video and the white trail of smoke. Jets do now leave white trails of smoke at sea level, but Thiokol powered AGMs do, at all attitudes.

    A Real 9-11 Commission should have certain Hughes and Raytheon parties summoned for questioning.

    Seated behind Mohammad Atta on 9/11 was an Israeli Mossad agent, Daniel Lewin.

    WHAT ARE THE ODDS?

    STOP.

    THINK.

    Atta was sitting in seat 8D. In front of him were the two brothers, Wael and Walid Al-Shihri. Behind him was his comrade in his final days, ‘Abd Al-’Aziz Al-’Omari. To Al-’Omari’s left was the Israeli Mossad agent, Daniel Lewin, and right behind him, the man who would kill him, Sattam Al-Suqami.

    In those exact moments, a group of Mossad agents were waiting in Manhattan for the first plane. They had surveillance and filming equipment with them. Meanwhile, F-15 planes were on high alert in Otis air base, 150 miles away, not knowing in which direction to fly.

    It is noteworthy that in those moments, the Mossad agents here, according to eye-witnesses, were dancing and cheering in front of the WTC. The Israelis were arrested in New York. Later, they were moved to Washington, and from there to Israel, and the report was quickly suppressed.

    5 EMPLOYEES OF RAYTHEON WITH EXPERTISE IN UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE SYSTEMS DIED ON THREE SEPARATE FLIGHTS ON 9/11

    http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/raytheon-connection-to-9-11

    WHAT ARE THE ODDS?

    STOP.

    THINK.

    Raytheon is missing at least one if not two A-3 Skywarriors from its inventory.

    Ask them where they went.

    http://www.q-and-a.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1069


  33. veritas says:

    Karl Rove is the mastermind of the imperial “lie”. Fortunately, though you can only lie and cover your ass so long before you make some serious errors in judgment.


  34. veritas says:

    Ace: You’re giving us the info fast & furious and it is so appreciated. The Raytheon connection makes for some pretty fascinating ingestion! Or maybe it’s indigestion?? Nevertheless, keep it coming. I’m circulating it as it is received.


  35. ace says:

    they’re starting to block me.


  36. ace says:

    Rumsfeldt & Wolfowitz petitioned Clinton to attack Iraq in 1998!

    In 1998 Rumsfeld, Cheney and other members of the PNAC lobbied Clinton to attack Iraq and remove Saddam. What’s more, according to a Bernard Wiener article, “(In one of their major reports, written in 2000, they noted that “the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.)” Hence, they needed a “new Pearl Harbor” to justify their attack on Iraq, an attack they planned sinced 1998, and that’s exactly what 9/11 gave them, the pretext to attack Iraq. They needed, if not wanted 9/11, and, perhaps, this explains why all the so-called security failures transpired on that day: they, not only wanted it to happen, but, grew tired of waiting and, hence, allowed it to happen. The context surrounding 9/11, the PNAC paper, the desire for a “new Pearl Harbor, and the lobbying of the Clinton administration to attack Iraq, provides crucial information and the supporting evidence, when added to all the prior terrorist warnings, all the security failures, the later obvious cover-up lies, that they let 9/11 happen because they’d planned to attack Iraq as far back as 1998. The 9/11 attack gave them exactly the pretext they desired, the “new Pearl Harbor.” What’s more the trumped up informaton of weapons of mass destruction provides additional evidence of the Bush administration’s willingness to lie to justify their attack upon Iraq.

    Bernard Weiner in “A PNAC Primer,” brilliant outlines the Bush administrations imperialistic plans:

    “The PNAC Paper Trail

    Here is a shorthand summary of PNAC documents and strategies that have become U.S. policy. Some of these you may have heard about before, but I’ve expanded and updated as much as possible.

    1. In 1992, then-Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney had a strategy report drafted for the Department of Defense, written by Paul Wolfowitz, then Under-Secretary of Defense for Policy. In it, the U.S. government was urged, as the world’s sole remaining Superpower, to move aggressively and militarily around the globe. The report called for pre-emptive attacks and ad hoc coalitions, but said that the U.S. should be ready to act alone when “collective action cannot be orchestrated.” The central strategy was to “establish and protect a new order” that accounts “sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership,” while at the same time maintaining a military dominance capable of “deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role.” Wolfowitz outlined plans for military intervention in Iraq as an action necessary to assure “access to vital raw material, primarily Persian Gulf oil” and to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and threats from terrorism.

    Somehow, this report leaked to the press; the negative response was immediate. Senator Robert Byrd led the Democratic charge, calling the recommended Pentagon strategy “myopic, shallow and disappointing… .The basic thrust of the document seems to be this: We love being the sole remaining superpower in the world and we want so much to remain that way that we are willing to put at risk the basic health of our economy and well-being of our people to do so.” Clearly, the objective political forces hadn’t yet coalesced in the U.S. that could support this policy free of major resistance, and so President Bush the Elder publicly repudiated the paper and sent it back to the drawing boards. (For the essence of the draft text, see Barton Gellman’s “Keeping the U.S. First; Pentagon Would Preclude a Rival Superpower” in the Washington Post.

    2. Various HardRight intellectuals outside the government were spelling out the new PNAC policy in books and influential journals. Zalmay M. Khalilzad (formerly associated with big oil companies, currently U.S. Special Envoy to Afghanistan & Iraq ) wrote an important volume in 1995, “From Containment to Global Leadership: America & the World After the Cold War,” the import of which was identifying a way for the U.S. to move aggressively in the world and thus to exercise effective control over the planet’s natural resources. A year later, in 1996, neo-conservative leaders Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan, in their Foreign Affairs article “Towards a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy,” came right out and said the goal for the U.S. had to be nothing less than “benevolent global hegemony,” a euphemism for total U.S. domination, but “benevolently” exercised, of course.

    3. In 1998, PNAC unsuccessfully lobbied President Clinton to attack Iraq and remove Saddam Hussein from power. The January letter from PNAC urged America to initiate that war even if the U.S. could not muster full support from the Security Council at the United Nations. Sound familiar? (President Clinton replied that he was focusing on dealing with al-Qaida terrorist cells.)

    4. In September of 2000, PNAC, sensing a GOP victory in the upcoming presidential election, issued its white paper on “Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for the New Century.” The PNAC report was quite frank about why the U.S. would want to move toward imperialist militarism, a Pax Americana, because with the Soviet Union out of the picture, now is the time most “conducive to American interests and ideals… The challenge of this coming century is to preserve and enhance this ‘American peace’.” And how to preserve and enhance the Pax Americana? The answer is to “fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major-theater wars.”

    In serving as world “constable,” the PNAC report went on, no other countervailing forces will be permitted to get in the way. Such actions “demand American political leadership rather than that of the United Nations,” for example. No country will be permitted to get close to parity with the U.S. when it comes to weaponry or influence; therefore, more U.S. military bases will be established in the various regions of the globe. (A post-Saddam Iraq may well serve as one of those advance military bases.) Currently, it is estimated that the U.S. now has nearly 150 military bases and deployments in different countries around the world, with the most recent major increase being in the Caspian Sea/Afghanistan/Middle East areas.

    5. George W. Bush moved into the White House in January of 2001. Shortly thereafter, a report by the Administration-friendly Council on Foreign Relations was prepared, “Strategic Energy Policy Challenges for the 21st Century,” that advocated a more aggressive U.S. posture in the world and called for a “reassessment of the role of energy in American foreign policy,” with access to oil repeatedly cited as a “security imperative.” (It’s possible that inside Cheney’s energy-policy papers — which he refuses to release to Congress or the American people — are references to foreign-policy plans for how to gain military control of oilfields abroad.)

    6. Mere hours after the 9/11 terrorist mass-murders, PNACer Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld ordered his aides to begin planning for an attack on Iraq, even though his intelligence officials told him it was an al-Qaida operation and there was no connection between Iraq and the attacks. “Go massive,” the aides’ notes quote him as saying. “Sweep it all up. Things related and not.” Rumsfeld leaned heavily on the FBI and CIA to find any shred of evidence linking the Iraq government to 9/11, but they weren’t able to. So he set up his own fact-finding group in the Pentagon that would provide him with whatever shaky connections it could find or surmise.

    7. Feeling confident that all plans were on track for moving aggressively in the world, the Bush Administration in September of 2002 published the “National Security Strategy of the United States of America.” The official policy of the U.S. government, as proudly proclaimed in this major document, is virtually identical to the policy proposals in the various white papers of the Project for the New American Century and others like it over the past decade.

    Chief among them are: 1) the policy of “pre-emptive” war — i.e., whenever the U.S. thinks a country may be amassing too much power and/or could provide some sort of competition in the “benevolent hegemony” region, it can be attacked, without provocation. (A later corollary would rethink the country’s atomic policy: nuclear weapons would no longer be considered defensive, but could be used offensively in support of political/economic ends; so-called “mini-nukes” could be employed in these regional wars.) 2) international treaties and opinion will be ignored whenever they are not seen to serve U.S. imperial goals. 3) The new policies “will require bases and stations within and beyond Western Europe and Northeast Asia.”

    In short, the Bush Administration seems to see the U.S., admiringly, as a New Rome, an empire with its foreign legions (and threat of “shock&awe” attacks, including with nuclear weapons) keeping the outlying colonies, and potential competitors, in line. Those who aren’t fully in accord with these goals better get out of the way; “you’re either with us or against us.”

    http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/PNAC-Primer.htm


  37. veritas says:

    #35 This is unbelievable! Blocking you for providing information and facts to support it? What does that amount to? And why??

    Is there another way posters can reach you so that we will not have to be abused by the censors here at TP who have their own “hidden agendas” perhaps??


  38. veritas says:

    People want the truth and unless we are given the truth, we cannot, as a nation move forward. Aha! Perhaps that’s the “master plan” here? This shadow government of theirs realizes that if the people are given the truth, our legitimate government will be reinstated. I’m beginning to understand..


  39. veritas says:

    From the crisppaper url and background on PNAC, it’s safe to say that PNAC is actually this country’s “enemy within”.


  40. SGT Higgins says:

    Bush will order him not to appear….then Rummy’ll claim executive privilege.blah, blah, blah


  41. ace says:

    There is literally no difference whatsoever between the Dems And Repubs on the matter of this war – or the next with Iran. It’s all the same story – all the same strategy – all for the same cause. Dems are merely acting their part – as ordained from The Tower Of Power – Mr. Rockefeller’s office in Manhattan

    This cause has virtually nothing to do with American citizens – who are being sacrificed for the globalist’s agenda – Rockefeller’s wet dream.

    Rockefeller = Exxon.
    Profits have never been better.
    Rockefeller = Israel…and the creation of “Eretz Israel” proceeds apace:

    http://www.nad-plo.org/maps/wall/jpeg/qalqilia%20map.jpg
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/greater-israel-maps.htm

    He controls Israel, Saudi Arabia and the US – and Iran is next, and the Dems will do nothing to stop it. They all work for him. If they didn’t, they never could have been (s)elected.

    Cheney works for Rockefeller – so does GHW Bush – they all do:


  42. SGT Higgins says:

    they’re starting to block me.

    Comment by ace

    Quick! Jump over to Newsbusters!


  43. veritas says:

    Thanks Sgt. Higgins….see ya at newsbusters!


  44. John says:

    I enjoy reading your posts ace. Good stuff. Are you by any chance formerly “plunger”?


  45. bogtrotters says:

    If he won’t testify, waterboard him.


  46. Harmonika Savingsbonds says:

    STOP RIGHT THERE.

    Why should anyone listen to what Rumsfeld has to say? ‘His


  47. Harmonika Savingsbonds says:

    STOP RIGHT THERE.

    Why should anyone listen to what Rumsfeld has to say? His ONLY


  48. Zimzone says:

    Rumsfeld will only agree to appear if he can interview himself!


  49. Karim says:

    Oh this is going to be fun.


  50. ace says:

  51. Marie says:

    Rumsfeld at a hearing, now? I don’t think so.
    Executive privilege you know.


  52. AlanDownunder says:

    If he testifies, it will be to a “known unknown”.


  53. Harmonika Savingsbonds says:

    It would not surprise me to learn that BushCo held a secret meeting where they decided that their war for profit need a war hero, so they had him killed.


  54. Jamie says:

    Tillman was assassinated because he was anti-Bush and pro-Kerry. He was going to return to the states and denounce Bush and the illegal Iraq war while campaigning for Kerry.

    There was no way the Bush administration could have spun it to make Pat Tillman look like a coward, or unpatriotic, or whatever, so they figured it’d be easier to kill him over there, so they wouldn’t have to fight him back here.

    Pat Tillman’s death = murder



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