Is Vitter ‘morally unfit to govern’?
Is Vitter ‘morally unfit to govern’?
At a press conference this afternoon, Sen. David Vitter broke his silence and spoke for the first time since he acknowledged being on the D.C. madam’s list. A remorseless Vitter attacked his “long time political enemies and those hoping to profit from the situation.” Vitter said he would not answer questions on the issue, claiming that “might sell newspapers but wouldn’t serve my family or my constituents well.” Watch it:
In Oct. 1998, Vitter attacked President Clinton, arguing the proper question was not whether people cared but rather whether Clinton was “morally unfit to govern.”
Some current polls may suggest that people are turned off by the whole Clinton mess and don’t care — because the stock market is good, the Clinton spin machine is even better or other reasons. But that doesn’t answer the question of whether President Clinton should be impeached and removed from office because he is morally unfit to govern. [Times-Picayune, 10/29/98]
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This guy is a joke and his wife a bigger joke. Feel sorry for his kids.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:47 pmApparently the standard is: If you bargain for sex at arms-length (no pun), you’re moral.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:48 pmRemember, everyone
It’s Okay If You’re A Republican.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:49 pmAnd this guy is one of the biggest hypocrites on the planet!
July 16th, 2007 at 6:50 pmNo the standard is if your a republican it’s okay. Look frankly I think this whole issue is between him, and his family. I do find it amazingly hyprocritical to attack another for the same thing he was guilty of, but that doesn’t ever stop any politician.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:51 pmhi everybody, this is my wife, the one i cheated on with a hooker, she’s here with me today so that i can hide behind her skirt. now, don’t bother me, i’ve got a lot of important work to do.
(gawd, what a pathetic loser. and this from the family values party.)
July 16th, 2007 at 6:52 pmAnd it’s not just the DC Madam whom he’s utilized the sexual services of….yesterday a New Orleans Madam spoke to the press about his many encounters with her girls. So conceivably, this hypocrite was shouting for Clinton’s removal most loudly and believes that the same standard shouldn’t apply to himself?? Huh??
I guess he’s a bona fide member of the Bush Cabal now – their mantra is “do as I say – don’t do as I do”. This is appalling. Vitter’s moral character is toast and he’s clearly broken the law….I’d say it’s a one, two, and he’s outta there!
July 16th, 2007 at 6:52 pmso instead of confessing, vitter went into attack mode. well, lets hope hookers come forward with pictures and stuff.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:53 pmHe was trysting with his own hookers while condemning Clinton for a BJ?? What’s wrong with this picture? Have we all been beamed up??
July 16th, 2007 at 6:53 pmwhat was his number again?
July 16th, 2007 at 6:54 pmThe reason people are attacking him is because of the blatant hypocrisy, especially in cases like this. They’re supposed to be the party of ‘family values’, and yet you get crap like this from the most ADAMANT of family rights jokers, ones who claim gay marriage will destroy the bonds of marriage, then go out to solicit hookers (something ILLEGAL, mind you).
And his wife is stepford enough to defend him for the same thing she bashed Hillary for?
And like everyone points out, this is the same crap he said Clinton should RESIGN for. And yet his immediate reaction is ‘the media is blowing this up, I’m a GOOD Republican dammit!’
July 16th, 2007 at 6:55 pmThese sickos use their wives as their official ‘tools’. When Mrs. Vitter geta a load of how she appears right now during these press conferences, she’ll be out the door….with his money…and his kids. Otherwise, she’s a total fool. Let’s see….Madam Palfrey mentioned that he’d used her outfit’s services several times….and then the New Orleans Madam said he was a regular customer dating back to 1999. I’d say Vitter needs to immediately go into alcohol rehab, don’t you? He’s obviously got an addiction problem…..yeah…addicted to hookers, that is.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:55 pmMaybe Vitter’s wife was just angry because Clinton didn’t *pay* Monica.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:55 pmHe was trysting with his own hookers while condemning Clinton for a BJ?? What’s wrong with this picture? Have we all been beamed up??
Comment by veritas — July 16, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Hey, if it was good enuff for newt…
July 16th, 2007 at 6:56 pmThe fact that Vitter is not resigning in shame and is, instead, attempting to attack and spin is not a good sign for him. I’d say that his MO here will infuriate the people of Louisiana to the point where they will pitch him from office themselves, if he won’t leave quietly and discreetly.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:56 pmlike 98% of republican’ts, Vitter is unfit to sell aluminum siding, let alone govern anything.
it’s cute that, like most paranoid righties, he actually thinks he’s significant enough to have “enemies” – what a hoot
someone flip the lever on the toilet and flush this guy, already
July 16th, 2007 at 6:57 pmTypical right-wing hypocrisy.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:57 pmWhat an ass.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:57 pmLook at her. she looked like someone just came back from Mars.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:58 pmCut it off, Mrs. Vitter, cut it off!
July 16th, 2007 at 6:58 pm#
Look at her. she looked like someone just came back from Mars.
Comment by bd — July 16, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
yeah, but look at him. looked like someone just came back from Uranus.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:59 pmonly a republican can spin infidelity into statement about family values.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:59 pmLet’s not forget that Mrs. Vitter had some strong words for Mrs. Clinton as well. She proudly said she wouldn’t stand for that kind of behavior. She said that if her husband behaved like Clinton she would leave and she would take something with her. She proudly compared herself to the woman who cut her husband’s dick off. Talk is so cheap for conservatives. I don’t know why anyone believes anything they say anymore.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:00 pmVitter: What Clinton did was a moral transgression, what I did was a business transaction.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:00 pmSome men pay for prostitutes while others get them for free. But whether Senator David Vitter or Rep. Duke Cunningham paid for pleasure with their cash or their votes, their Republican colleagues appear ready to protect their Johns all the same, at least as long as public opinion will allow.
For the details, see:
July 16th, 2007 at 7:00 pm“Vitter, Cunningham and the GOP Parliament of Whores.”
Isn’t it amazing how the official “aids czar” was using hookers while making others take an oath of celibacy and safe sex? Isn’t it strange that Vitter who was most vociferously attacking Bill Clinton for oral sex (not paid sex) is the one shacking up for 8 years or more…..and most actively doing so while screaming about Bill Clinton. He who doth protest too much….is usually doing the same thing himself.
Imagine this visual: Vitter in full flagrantia with a sleazy hooker who is painting her nails as he bumps and grinds….whilst he is mentally composing his next attack on Bill Clinton for not acknowledging the sanctity of marriage.
Now THIS visual would make for great comedy or satire.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:00 pmboring.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:00 pmNew Christian values and the Church see no problem with Vitter or any GOP official committing sin. It’s those Democrats that are bad. This is the new values American children will be raised on. If your rich or a Republican you can do anything but if your one of those other Americans your a sinner and you must go to jail. Now serving in the military to protect the country is only for those other people. Ralph Reed needs to come out of hiding and start his criminal acts with the church again. NO worries Karl Rove will give the church big bucks and as President Bush said move on and get over it. Everyone has a price and so does the Church. Ask the Pastors diving BMW’s.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:01 pmWhat a hypocrite.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:01 pmLets see what his voters back home do in his next re-election.
#3
“No the standard is if your a republican it’s okay.”
And if you are a Democrat. Let’s cover all the bases here. BTW Vitter should resign in my opinion.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:01 pmForgive the superficial observation, but if I had to make a TV appearance as the wronged wife of a husband cavorts with hookers, I wouldn’t do it in a leopard print outfit. A little too cheesey.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:02 pmboring.
Comment by Mr. President
Yes, you are.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:02 pmWhy do Republicans think their “shit don’t stink”?
Someone who called out Clinton as being unfit to govern has no such qualms about himself; in fact he asks his wife to defend him.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:02 pmWhat they do in their private life is theirs and theirs alone – that is not the issue – the issue is the blatant double standard: the notion that they always have good reasons or excuses for their behavior but they do not tolerate misbehavior – real or imagined – in Democrats.
The look on his wife’s face says it all.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:05 pm#13
Comment by Ryan — July 16, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
Oh Monica got payed…far more than any hooker could for the same service. Promises made by a powerful man.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:05 pmOh lordy,
I just saw this on Hardball. Actually, Mrs Vitter makes me more sick than her husband. She was so judgmental of Hillary Clinton, and she now has a hell of a nerve to say this was a private issue, and to ask for the media to back off.
Wow.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:05 pm#27 boring.
Comment by Mr. President
What’s teh matter mr. p, not enough homosexual action here for you? Were you more turned on by Mark the snark foley, or teddy haggard or maybe newt and tommy delay’s fun and games were more your speed?
U R 2 FUNNY!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 7:06 pmOh I get it he’s being aggressive so the non-hypocrites will leave him alone. Like a poopie-filled diaper-wearing Pharisee.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:06 pmBTW Vitter should resign in my opinion.
Comment by Tracy
Want to take bets on whether he does or not?
July 16th, 2007 at 7:06 pmI’m betting he doesn’t, heh
From what I understand of New Orleans pols, the idea they would be meeting up with hookers isn’t that unusual. I remember a friend from there telling me that one of the former mayors was caught all the time in a cheap hotel room by the airport. I think they have somewhat different view of infidelity then the rest of America.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:07 pmTh hypocrisy of these two is astounding.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:07 pmthat he hired a hooker while in a marriage … his business. not cool, but his business. that he went after Clinton for the Monica deal-ee-o when he was in the midst of his own infidelities … the public’s business.
don’t know how he maintains any credibility amongst his constituents. don’t know how he helps the GOP and their platform of family values. don’t know how he could stand up there and talk about highway bills after just completely humiliating his wife who is 6 inches to his left. it is very sad for his family and yet another example of the addage that those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
media camped outside his home and church is despicable and there is no excuse for it’s parasitic nature, but changing the subject does not make his s**t stink any less.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:07 pmCheney’s trysting would have been outed immediately on the ranch when he shot his friend in the face. He was shacking with Pamela Willeford and the official police reports would have indicated that she was at his side when the shooting occurred. Lynne Cheney would have done a Bobbitt job on him if that made headlines. This , along with the alcohol level in his blood, was the reason he refused to allow the local PD in that evening….so his little Swiss Miss (he made her am ambassador to Switzerland, now ain’t that convenient for trysting?) could get out of dodge along with his BAC to drop back down to normal. Who does he think he’s fooling? Everyone knows these details.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:08 pmIf he doesn’t resign, the people of Louisiana will pitch him out. They’re still angry about the government’s response to Katrina and they will show no mercy to this hypocrite.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:09 pmIf their marriage is private why is she there? LOL.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:09 pmProbably trying to keep CPS (Child Protective Services) off their backs considering the diaper stories.
So he called the escort service, but didn’t use the prostitutes… It just makes me think of Principal Skinner, getting caught going to the burlesque house on the Simpsons.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:10 pm“I only went there to get directions on how to get away from there.”
Vitter’s a common hypocritical sleazebag – nothing more. This guy’s political career is over, and deservingly to.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:10 pmWhen you have the republican god on your side, you can do anything and it is kewl!
Glad we got that straightened out!
July 16th, 2007 at 7:10 pmShe was so judgmental of Hillary Clinton, and she now has a hell of a nerve to say this was a private issue, and to ask for the media to back off.
Wow.
Comment by Zooey
It’s always different when the shoe is on the other foot.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:10 pmShe probably won’t apologize to Hillary for her past statements either.
Both of them ( her and husband) are hypocrites.
Hell, every neo-con Republican is morally unfit to govern. not only that but they are mentally unfit to govern. just ask them where are the Iraqi WMD or how great buddies Saddam and Bin Laden were, NOT!
these evil extremists are known more appropriately as the GHP , Grand Hypocrisy Party.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:11 pm#46 The New Orleans Madam has proof that he used the services of her girls many, many times and she’s already spoken to the press about it. Backpeddling is impossible for Vitter now. He’s toast.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:11 pm#25 Furious: Thanks for the Duke Cunningham stuff. There’s been so much more chicanery lately that I’d totally forgotten about that. Did you know that Dukie Cunningham was also involved in Katherine Harris’s campaign back around the time that she helped rig Florida along with Jebbie in 2000? There was another player involved and I can’t recall his name at the moment. I think he’s also under investigation. Katherine Harris SHOULD BE under close scrutiny right now for her role in enabling the stealing of election 2000.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI just love questions like this one: “Is a republican morally unfit to govern?”
The only possible answer is: “Of course he/she is.”
You don’t need any of the facts, figures, or slimy details to get that question right. Anyone willing to continue sporting that little (R) after their name is just plain dumb.
The old adage goes: “You can tell a lot about a man’s character by the company he keeps.”
The republican party in America today is the most corrupt organization that has ever existed.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:14 pmBut remember…. this is Louisiana…. home of Huey Long and a whole host of fun-luvin’ boyz. I am sure this will fade away in a week or so. After all, it is so mundane now from those @ssclown repugs.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:14 pmI’m wondering what the people can do (en masse) to bring attention to the fact that we believe Vitter to be morally and ethically unfit to serve in office any longer?
July 16th, 2007 at 7:14 pmBoth of them ( her and husband) are hypocrites.
Comment by Wayne
Absolutely. If Vitter hadn’t put himself on that moral pedestal, I would be defending his right to privacy. As it is, the press can have their feeding frenzy.
He should resign.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:15 pmThe Republican Party. The Law and Order Party. Just as long as the laws don’t apply to them.
-GSD
July 16th, 2007 at 7:17 pmOk, this is funny and all, but let us look at what really matters.
What kind of sex was he paying for?
Dress up, spankings, strap ons, water sports, poopy fun, S&M, leather, rubber, maybe have them dress up like little school girls, or little school boys? Come on let’s get to the bottom !! of this.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Mr. P(rick) you and CT_V1 couldn’t get a hooker to do scum like you.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:17 pmUpside00 – while I would tend to agree with you having been to New Orleans many times myself, I believe that this is a dual edged sword for Vitter. Not only was he vociferously vocal about how unfit Clinton was to serve because of his indiscretion but Vitter’s indiscretion involves breaking the law….solicitation of a prostitute and paying for sex. Add this one to the facts cited by the New Orleans Madam who was shut down in 2003 and pled guilty of charges.
Also, Vitter has been associated with the christian right (albeit the hypocritical christian right (perhaps that combination of words implies hypocrisy at face value anyway?) and the Christian right should come down on him pretty hard right now.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:17 pmBoys will be boys, and remember:
Clinton did it too.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:18 pmZooey,
Have to say, she also looks a bit like Prozac Laura’s younger sister, after a specially large dose before they let her go in front of the camera.
Think the good Mrs. Vitter will be teaching Sunday School classes at their local Southern Baptist church any time soon?
July 16th, 2007 at 7:19 pmWow – this is the most troll-free thread I have seen on TP in quite some time. Kind of hard to spin this into anything other that “Clinton did it, too?” What a sad symbol the Rethuglican party has become.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:19 pm#58 Let’s have some fun with this one – after all, it was his choice to indulge his fantasies. From the looks of him, I’d imagine that he enjoys wearing short skirts, no panties, and getting spanked repeatedly while in the act.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:20 pmrobbez_92107
Clinton… he did it too.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:20 pmand, as if on cue, Mr. Pee obliges……
July 16th, 2007 at 7:21 pmMrs. Vitter does look like she’s taken a megadose of Valium just to get through the interview.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:21 pm# 63 veritas,
I wonder if he looks better in a dress than RUDEE??
HEY!!! Maybe he can be RUDEE’s running “mate” in 08.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:22 pmMr. President your attempt at dramatic brevity is embarrassing. Clinton never judged other people’s marriages while failing to live to his own standards. If you were a married parent you’d realise how important that is to mature Americans.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:22 pmUpside00 – Gotta love it! Shaves his legs and all! Whoopie! Whatever blows your skirt up! And he loves having his blown up high!
July 16th, 2007 at 7:23 pm……and I remember what State Rep. Vitter, Majority Whip Newt and, of course, Mark Foley all had to say about “Clinton doing it, too”…….how quickly you forget, Mr. Pee.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:23 pmGood ticket in 08: Rudee the crossdresser and Vitter the spankee.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:23 pmonly a republican can spin infidelity into statement about family values.
No shit. then again, these are the same folks who tell us trickle down economics are good for us, Saddam actually flew one of the planes on Sept. 11th, Jesus loves everyone but fags, Democrats and the Yankees, that we were forced to invade Iraq, because, umm, giant marshmallows were spotted somewhere in the desert, and that, umm, family values means wearing a diaper.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:23 pmLove the tagline on CNN: “Association” with DC Madame – It was sex, idiots.
Associate you, Vitter.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:23 pmI wonder if Vitter prefers CFMN pumps or slingbacks?
July 16th, 2007 at 7:25 pmDukie provided hookers for all of them as part of their payoff – on lavish trips to foreign countries, on yachts…..wait until all that comes out – phew! It probably involves almost every Republican in office.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:26 pmBoys will be boys, and remember:
Clinton did it too.
Comment by Mr. President
Of course, in your case, boys will be girls too…
Wait a minute, Clinton never did THAT…
July 16th, 2007 at 7:28 pmMmmmm, from the south…I forgot to mention – FARM ANIMALS – maybe he had them dress up a goat as a catholic school girl, and the hooker would spank him, and he would cry and beg for his sins to be cleansed while holding a picture of Ted Haggard and Jeff Gannon.
Come on hookers, what did he do?
July 16th, 2007 at 7:28 pmTracy: “Oh Monica got payed…far more than any hooker could for the same service. Promises made by a powerful man.”
Tracy, you conservatives sure do have selective memories. To review for you, Kenneth Starr and his crew of ambitious headhunters spent over $70 million in taxpayer money trying to prove what you seem to think happened, but couldn’t. Do you remember? It was all part of the “obstruction of justice” portion of their phony evidence for impeachment. They were very thorough; called lots of witnesses; searched lots of data, but no evidence that Monica got any payment whatsoever for her “services.”
It just kills guys like you that Clinton never had to pay for it, doesn’t it. Face it. Monica told her friends in Portland that she was bringing her “presidential kneepads” with her to Washington. She stalked Clinton. That doesn’t, in my opinion, absolve him of guilt in the matter, but it does confirm the general rule that conservatives perverts pay for it and liberals don’t have to.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:28 pmVitter’s performance was disgusting.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:29 pmRepubs don’t even have the decency to resign when they are caught breaking the law and their campaign pledges any more.
Poor, poor Vitter. Why is everyone so mean to him? He’s just a hypocrite who broke the law and lives his life exactly the same way as the people he criticizes and campaigns against.
I won’t be able to post much tonight, and since this is the [perfect topic for it, I’ll leave a little sampling from my next parody. This is the beginning (you can’t see the whole thing yet) of a parody of the song “Christmas”, from Tommy, by The Who. This particular song I call “Christians”.. Enjoy the sample:
“Did you ever see the faces of
The Christians they get so excited.
Waking up their kids to see if
Armageddon’s finally been ignited.
They believe in Christ and say His
Teachings are a part of their philosophy.
Peeking in their door we see their
Lives are being lived in pure hypocrisy.”
I hope to have the rest of “Georgie, A Rock Opera Parody” ready to post by the end of this weekend. (I hope.)
Enjoy, and peace to all.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:32 pmWell Mrs. Vitter, you gonna go all Lorena Bobbit on your husband like you said you would, or are you a hypocrite too?
July 16th, 2007 at 7:39 pmAfter victimizing others by loudly condemning their actions, Vitter pretends to be the victim here because his family is suffering. It’s his long time political enemies doing this to him. Not a word about his hypocrisy, or whether he committed a crime by paying for prostitutes in DC. No apology for the ones he morally condemned for doing less than what he has done.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:44 pmHis hypocrisy angers us more than his acts. But still, why is he allowed back into the Seante after admitting to being with prostitutes which is a crime in DC.
Oh, I forgot, he told his wife he was sorry so that should be the end of that.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — July 16, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
I find it funny that Monica cherished the stain!
July 16th, 2007 at 7:46 pmYES!
July 16th, 2007 at 7:50 pmMonica got payed…far more than any hooker could for the same service. Promises made by a powerful man.
Comment by Tracy — July 16, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
::sigh::
No, Tracy, no matter how much you spin it, promises are not payment. Or would trade your paycheck for promises from your company’s president? Wait, maybe you would and you’d feel you got a raise….
…ssheeeshh…
July 16th, 2007 at 7:51 pmThe issue at hand here is, the democrats get it but the republicans either buy it, or if they can’t find that, get it from young boys.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:54 pmPeople need to read/hear this. If the media won’t cover it, then it needs to be posted and talked about. The double-standard that this fool lives by needs to be known.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:55 pmOk. I notice the response from CT_V1 is “prove itâ€. Well, ok…
lets go; Original Thread “GOP wants new….†7-13-2007
Mr. President is clearly in the thread when Soldier is insulted
We don’t need a false flag.
We have bin Laden.
Sorry Lefties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
Then Tired Of Fighting posted his note at around 7:00pm and trolls were silent till…
Out of respect for the Soldier I will not repost those here…then more names appear…
Then after hours posting as racist “gangsta†types, he is back with…
Wow.
I haven’t posted anything for hours!!!!!!!
I take it someone has hi-jacked my name yet again!!!!!!!
I can’t wait to read what “I†said that has you so worked up!!!!!!
You Lefties are so quick so point the finger.
“Progressive†indeed.
Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
Above, he cleverly covers up his involvement as soon a he gets back…
This is from “Rice falsely claims…†7-14-2007
Mr. President was in the thread….
Comment by Alejandro — July 14, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Ah yes.
The objective “antiwar.com/blogâ€
There we will learn the Truth!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
Then “someone†posted this;
You Leftists cheer when brave warriors like me die!
You’re all a bunch of traitors!
Comment by SGT Stephen R. Sherman — July 14, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
Then Mr. President re-emerges….
Michael, the libs are going to give you a list of outrageous claims that they insist are 100% factual. I too would like to see proof to back up some of the anti-American claims here, but let’s be honest, that ain’t going to happen!
Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
In 7-14-07 “ White house refurses…†blog;
Mr. President tells CT_V1 that they shouldn’t use a racial slur after “Joker’s escapades…yet Joker doesn’t show up on the blog…but CT and Mr. P do. Apparently they have decided Joker did it.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
CT,
We should probably not use that name for a little while…
after The Joker’s escapades last night… well…
I’m just sayin’
Comment by Mr. President
Then of course Umar Lee keeps showing up as well as other “blogers†around CT_V1..
Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Wait, The Joker is ‘Umar Lee.’ Heck, I just read his blog.
And yeah, you probably have a much better handle on not being so easily reactive to these lefties than I do. Good initiative, Mr. President.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
I hope if Tired of Fighting is a real soldier that he dies like his buddy!
That’s one less Lefty!
Comment by Barry Bonds — July 14, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
I am not this Joker you speak of.
I am an American Muslim who’s sick of you Klansman attacking my people!
Comment by Umar Lee — July 14, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
And then it happens again….. (wiped out after about 1 minute but I saw it)…
Did I just see that? Did one of these guys post as that soldier again, and it got wiped out?
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
Did anyone else see that?
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Yes willy, I saw it too.
F*cking pricks.
Comment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
And of course Mr. President and CT_V1 are there as well..(interestingly last night Mr. President posted to someone that he didn’t know what I was refering to, but he was there and commented on it)…
Hey, man. We’re trolls, not cherubs.
Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Then “someoneâ€posts as the Soldier again…..
They just zapped him again!!!!!
lol
There you go TP!!!! Thats the stuff!!!!!!
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
and CT_V1 and Mr. President are still in the tread….
Mr. President, I bid you good day, sir.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
And again, CT_V1 and Mr. President are there playing their name game.
So there you have it. 5 different times posting as a Soldier who gave his life for this country and other various insults.
Please copy and paste this and whenever they want to say “prove itâ€â€¦you can say, fine…here. Cowards.
Comment by willyloman — July 16, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
July 16th, 2007 at 7:55 pmWhy are these Republican Stepford wives unable to satisfy their lame husbands?
-GSD
July 16th, 2007 at 7:56 pmLow Rena’s got more balls than this stand-by-your-man bee otch.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:56 pmNice job, Mr. Salesman.
July 16th, 2007 at 7:58 pmthank you Arthur. They said prove it….so….
July 16th, 2007 at 8:01 pmClinton cheated on his wife in a consentual affair, this man BROKE THE LAW by soliciting sex from a prostitute.
That is illegal in Washington DC. They arrest people for that. Well, the “little people”.
Just exactly how did Vitter’s political enemies force him to break the LAW with these prostitutes????
How does Vitter feel about the rest of the laws of this country. Are they all so disposeable??? Can we all break any laws that we see fit to?
July 16th, 2007 at 8:02 pmHey willyloman, that’s one of the most retarded things I’ve seen in my life!!!
LOL!!!
By the way, I didn’t do a cot damn thing.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:02 pmThe party of personal responsibility. “It’s always somebody else’s fault…..in a way that they will think of later”
July 16th, 2007 at 8:03 pmComment by willyloman — July 16, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
Nice work, willy.
These trolls will never admit anything. The condone one another’s behavior, so they should all be treated as the same person.
Maybe you should post your above comment on any thread where they’re getting out of hand — lke we used to out MA’s dead child joke.
It’s actually quite enjoyable watching them flail around when no one pays attention to them. :)
July 16th, 2007 at 8:03 pmMaybe you should post your above comment on any thread where they’re getting out of hand
Comment by Zooey — July 16, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
!!!Genius!!!
We can use willyloman to derail the threads!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 8:04 pm#78
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — July 16, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
“They were very thorough; called lots of witnesses; searched lots of data, but no evidence that Monica got any payment whatsoever for her “services.—
She got payed by becomming a celebrity after scandal broke. BTW he gave MANY gifts to Monica that had been subpoenaed in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Give us a break!
“…but it does confirm the general rule that conservatives perverts pay for it and liberals don’t have to.”
Liberals have to pay their wives! LOL!
July 16th, 2007 at 8:05 pmZooey; I like it when they start talking to themselves. The Problem comes when the get so desperate they create “Barry Bonds” and others to hide the vile comments.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:06 pmMr. Excrement happy at home with his ten warty little friends.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:07 pmMr. Excrement happy at home with his ten warty little friends.
Comment by Raven — July 16, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
July 16th, 2007 at 8:10 pm———————————
I beg your pardon?
#85
Comment by Gregor Samsa — July 16, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
“No, Tracy, no matter how much you spin it, promises are not payment.”
Well if you want to spin it that way…oh well. I’ll bet you are one of those who don’t know what the definition of “is” is. Same mentality as Clinton’s. Sad.
“Or would trade your paycheck for promises from your company’s president?”
That slut Lewinsky did! She is reaping the benefits today though.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:11 pmLiberals have to pay their wives! LOL!
Comment by Tracy
Sorry to break it to you, your wife pays me.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:12 pmOne can beg for pardon, but when one has disrespected a fallen soldier, they deserve none.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:13 pmDon’t forget: Vitter was elected after an adultery scandal led to the resignation of his predecessor, House Speaker-elect Bob Livingston.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:14 pmWe can use willyloman to derail the threads!!!
Comment by Mr. President
You’ve never needed any help before.
Willy’s post will be for information only.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:16 pmSorry to break it to you, your wife pays me.
Comment by Wayne
Ouch!! :D
July 16th, 2007 at 8:17 pmThe Problem comes when the get so desperate they create “Barry Bonds†and others to hide the vile comments.
Comment by willyloman
We still know it’s them — and treat them as one vile troll.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:18 pmSorry to break it to you, your wife pays me.
Comment by Wayne
Ouch!! :D
Comment by Zooey
hehe, yeah I’m mean
July 16th, 2007 at 8:19 pmShould have added, my tip jar runneth over =D
We can use willyloman to derail the threads!!!
Comment by Mr. President
You’ve never needed any help before.
Willy’s post will be for information only.
Comment by Zooey
Public service announcement
July 16th, 2007 at 8:24 pmComment by Mr. President -” boring”.
Gee Prez, no excitement unless there are death from IUD’s or IED’s – doesn’t matter to you.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:26 pmWow, Salesman, I would have never gone to that much trouble to appease these scum!
Appease isn’t the right word, is it? I mean,
…to prove they are the trash that we all know they are!
July 16th, 2007 at 8:30 pmShould have added, my tip jar runneth over =D
Comment by Wayne
Ohhhh, you have a jar….
Heh.
BTW — Have you ever heard of the Budos Band? Good god, it’s the sexiest music ever made.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:37 pmSalesman – Great job – you and Egregg should repeat that post every time the trolls in question act up – kind of like what happened after the dead baby joke by Valiant Vag……they’ll figure out that their own words will be used to discredit any point that those particular trolls make from that point forward and give up eventually (or just change their posting name, like we all know they do).
July 16th, 2007 at 8:38 pm…they’ll figure out that their own words will be used to discredit any point that those particular trolls make …
Comment by robbez_92107 — July 16, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
They’ve never made a “point” and it seems they never will.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:40 pm…to prove they are the trash that we all know they are!
Comment by Egreggious
I don’t need to prove it. I just need to show people what kind of creeps they are talking to.
Hopefully no one will respond to them. I have personal reasons to be offended by what they did.
I notice you give them no slack too. Good.
Thank you robbez.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:42 pmI wasn’t impressed….they both need to eat a little more crow and apologize to the Clintons publically. At the time of the Clinton fiasco the wife stated unlike Hillary she’d kick her husband to the curb minus his balls. Not so cut and dry and black and white when the shoe is on the other foot. What goes around, comes around. Perhaps going forward she will have more empathy for others facing ‘human’ situations.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:42 pmHow you guys doing tonight?
July 16th, 2007 at 8:43 pmI like my family values hypocrites in diapers only… Note to GOP.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:44 pmI think the real proof would be the pictures of the scars from that operation that mrs. vivisection has said she wants to offer up as proof of his commitment to the covenant. If she is a woman that keeps her promise, he won’t want to govern any more.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:44 pmWhat do eunuchs like to do most? oh no, it is elected office isn’t it?
I’m good, Salesman. How about you?
July 16th, 2007 at 8:45 pmI think the real proof would be the pictures of the scars from that operation that mrs. vivisection has said she wants to offer up as proof of his commitment to the covenant. If she is a woman that keeps her promise, he won’t want to govern any more.
What do eunuchs like to do most? oh no, it is elected office isn’t it?
Comment by oldtree — July 16, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
I was surprised that Vitter’s voice was so low.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:46 pmI’m tired of looking at the screen to be honest. I started working on this when you were yelling at CV on the other thread.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:47 pmWatch the sheep in Louisiana to fall right into line behind Vitter and pretend that nothing happened. Most of his flock would probably rather die a slow, painful death than acknowledge that they may have made a mistake in voting for him.
Like with Clinton, the overriding issue was never really about sex, but rather about whether the politician in question was perceived as supporting the agenda of the extremely wealthy and and the large multi-national corporations. Nothing else matters, unless a side issue can be used to attack someone believed to be concerned about the wellbeing of those in the bottom 99%, income-wise. As always, it is all about the money.
In most jurisdictions, prostitution (as well as patronizing a prostitute) is considered illegal and can subject both the prostitute and the “john” to arrest. Clinton’s actions may have been immoral, but were not illegal. And a charge of perjury can only hold up if the information has some critical bearing upon the outcome of a legal proceeding. Clearly, Vitter broke the law, Clinton did not.
Their calls to others to allow them to put this sordid affair behind them and proceed as if nothing happened truly ring hollow. Where were their calls for compassion when the Clintons were on the receiving end of similar scrutiny?
July 16th, 2007 at 8:47 pmI thought she said she would whack his willy if he ever did that? Not only didi he do it, but paid $3,000 per hour for it!
July 16th, 2007 at 8:48 pmWas I yelling? What’s wrong with me?
July 16th, 2007 at 8:48 pmShe got payed(SIC) by becomming a celebrity after scandal broke. BTW he gave MANY gifts to Monica that had been subpoenaed in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Give us a break!
Liberals have to pay their wives! LOL!
Comment by Tracy — July 16, 2007 @ 8:05 pm
The BJ scandal cost Monica Lewinsky’s family considerable money in legal bills. How often do you see Monica on TV today? BTW, people apparently don’t get paid for being on Larry King Live. To quote you, “Give us a break!”
July 16th, 2007 at 8:49 pmYour final sentence is totally out-of-order, and you definitely can’t prove such BS, can you, Chickenhawk Twit?
I wouldn’t pay $3,000 an hour for Laura Bush!
July 16th, 2007 at 8:49 pmJenna or not-Jenna maybe.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:51 pm$3,000 per hour is more than Doctors Get Paid! it’s more than Senators get paid!
Maybe she broke it up per minute for him. He paid $2.50.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:51 pmI might pay $3,000 for Babs Bush. If I was drunk.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:52 pmHe paid $2.50.
Comment by willyloman — July 16, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
He had an important vote he needed to get back to the floor for.
Something about “Defense of Marriage”.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:53 pmre: ” Vitter said he would not answer questions on the issue, claiming that “might sell newspapers but wouldn’t serve my family or my constituents well.†”
Well yes his moral violations and marital betrayal is Vitter’s business.
BUT his likely use of condoms when being serviced by prostitutes would be his constituents and all American’s business.
He opposes family planning, condoms, sex education and safe-sex in his public actions. This puts the rest of us at risk of AIDS, VD, hepatitis C, botched abortions, unwanted children, abuse, proverty etc etc.
On this issue, the rubber hits the road, so to speak….and he should be pursued to answer to this hypocrisy.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:55 pmSomething about “Defense of Marriageâ€.
Comment by Egreggious
It was the ‘Support Family Values and Bolster Faith Based Inniciatives By Paying Priests to Fondle People Other Than Children Act”.
got thru the Senate. Haliburton got the final no-bid contract though.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:56 pmAnd who was the bills sponcer? Mark Foley, of course, you silly twaddle.
July 16th, 2007 at 8:57 pmI suppose I shouldn’t laugh at this. Their poor kids. And I guess I should feel sorry for his wife (although what do you expect when you’re married to a Republican “family values” legislator?).
July 16th, 2007 at 9:02 pmHow come its OK for TP to bring up Clinton when it fits their needs but when trolls bring him up you scorn them?
Double standard.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:02 pmHow come its OK for TP to bring up Clinton when it fits their needs but when trolls bring him up you scorn them?
Double standard.
Comment by Troll
Vitter brought up Clinton — when he was acting assholierthanthou.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:06 pmComment by Troll
That’s pretty deep. You’ve rocked my world. I’ll get back to you.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:07 pmComment by Troll — July 16, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
You haven’t heard?
The TPers want to run the place like the FASCISTS over and C & L!
They will even go so far as to fabricate evidence, to demonize a group of posters… the trolls.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:09 pmSo Vitter seems to be saying “How dare you accuse me of cavorting with Louisiana whores. I have only cavorted with Washington, DC whores”
Nice, David.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:09 pmComment by Mr. President
That the new spin? Gave up on the “I don’t know what he’s talking about”
and “The Joker did it”
Those gone, huh? Now, I’m fabricating this? The posts are still there…people can go read them…
and if you don’t know what I’m talking about…..
Ok. I notice the response from CT_V1 is “prove itâ€. Well, ok…
lets go; Original Thread “GOP wants new….†7-13-2007
Mr. President is clearly in the thread when Soldier is insulted
We don’t need a false flag.
We have bin Laden.
Sorry Lefties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
Then Tired Of Fighting posted his note at around 7:00pm and trolls were silent till…
Out of respect for the Soldier I will not repost those here…then more names appear…
Then after hours posting as racist “gangsta†types, he is back with…
Wow.
I haven’t posted anything for hours!!!!!!!
I take it someone has hi-jacked my name yet again!!!!!!!
I can’t wait to read what “I†said that has you so worked up!!!!!!
You Lefties are so quick so point the finger.
“Progressive†indeed.
Comment by Mr. President — July 13, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
Above, he cleverly covers up his involvement as soon a he gets back…
This is from “Rice falsely claims…†7-14-2007
Mr. President was in the thread….
Comment by Alejandro — July 14, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Ah yes.
The objective “antiwar.com/blogâ€
There we will learn the Truth!!!
Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
Then “someone†posted this;
You Leftists cheer when brave warriors like me die!
You’re all a bunch of traitors!
Comment by SGT Stephen R. Sherman — July 14, 2007 @ 2:23pm
Then Mr. President re-emerges….
Michael, the libs are going to give you a list of outrageous claims that they insist are 100% factual. I too would like to see proof to back up some of the anti-American claims here, but let’s be honest, that ain’t going to happen!
Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
In 7-14-07 “ White house refurses…†blog;
Mr. President tells CT_V1 that they shouldn’t use a racial slur after “Joker’s escapades…yet Joker doesn’t show up on the blog…but CT and Mr. P do. Apparently they have decided Joker did it.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
CT,
We should probably not use that name for a little while…
after The Joker’s escapades last night… well…
I’m just sayin’
Comment by Mr. President
Then of course Umar Lee keeps showing up as well as other “blogers†around CT_V1..
Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Wait, The Joker is ‘Umar Lee.’ Heck, I just read his blog.
And yeah, you probably have a much better handle on not being so easily reactive to these lefties than I do. Good initiative, Mr. President.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
I hope if Tired of Fighting is a real soldier that he dies like his buddy!
That’s one less Lefty!
Comment by Barry Bonds — July 14, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
I am not this Joker you speak of.
I am an American Muslim who’s sick of you Klansman attacking my people!
Comment by Umar Lee — July 14, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
And then it happens again….. (wiped out after about 1 minute but I saw it)…
Did I just see that? Did one of these guys post as that soldier again, and it got wiped out?
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
Did anyone else see that?
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Yes willy, I saw it too.
F*cking pricks.
Comment by Zooey — July 14, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
And of course Mr. President and CT_V1 are there as well..(interestingly last night Mr. President posted to someone that he didn’t know what I was refering to, but he was there and commented on it)…
Hey, man. We’re trolls, not cherubs.
Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Then “someoneâ€posts as the Soldier again…..
They just zapped him again!!!!!
lol
There you go TP!!!! Thats the stuff!!!!!!
Comment by willyloman — July 14, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
and CT_V1 and Mr. President are still in the tread….
Mr. President, I bid you good day, sir.
Comment by CT_V1 — July 14, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
And again, CT_V1 and Mr. President are there playing their name game.
So there you have it. 5 different times posting as a Soldier who gave his life for this country and other various insults.
Please copy and paste this and whenever they want to say “prove itâ€â€¦you can say, fine…here. Cowards.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:13 pmBetter to demonize trolls that to demonize fallen soldiers.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:13 pmSo Vitter seems to be saying “How dare you accuse me of cavorting with Louisiana whores. I have only cavorted with Washington, DC whoresâ€
Nice, David.
Comment by Esther Betty — July 16, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
Love it!
July 16th, 2007 at 9:14 pmWhat’s wrong willyloman?
Was the FASCIST remark to close for comfort?
Better silence the truth-teller!!!
Right willy?
July 16th, 2007 at 9:18 pmVitter is a TRAITOR coxucker PUNK who likes to be butt-plugged and spanked.
Just like TRAITOR coxucker PUNK Bush does with Jeff Gannon…
July 16th, 2007 at 9:20 pmVitter probably knows there are no phone records to tie him to the Loozyana floozies, so he can bluff his way through. He got thoroughly busted in DC, so now he and his wife have cobbled up this “old news, long forgiven” codswallop. He just better pray that none of his NOLA hookers has any photos stashed away.
His wife looks like a complete zombie. I’d love to be around the first time she runs into Hillary at a DC party and HRC gives her the frozen eyeball glare she deserves.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:21 pmComment by Mr. President — July 16, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
And don’t bother to complain of injustice. You have sh*t upon the Constitution, showed no regard for the rule of law, and cheered when a man who had committed treason was set free by a president with complicity in the crime. Don’t bother to talk to me about justice. Don’t bother to talk to me about decency. Don’t bother to talk to me about America. You have no idea what these things are, punk. Take your case to the Attorney General.
Your very existence is an insult to every Soldier who fought and died for principles you cannot begin to grasp. Your attempt to insult one of those Soldiers here was simply the last straw.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:21 pmdidn’t read all 147+ comments, but here is the real issue— Clinton had a LEGAL consensual relationship.. Albeit cheating on his wife.
Vitter went to an ILLEGAL PROSTITUTE.
that’s all that needs to be said.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:24 pmyou are screwed up little boy, aren’t you?
what part of the “truth teller†insulted that Soldier by pretending to be his fallen friend?
What part of the “truth teller†made up “hip-hop†names and went off on a racist rant for an hour?
get out of here, child. you’re sick.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:25 pmdidn’t read all 147+ comments, but here is the real issue— Clinton had a LEGAL consensual relationship.. Albeit cheating on his wife.
Vitter went to an ILLEGAL PROSTITUTE.
that’s all that needs to be said.
Comment by seth manjos
Yes, but if the president, …
er if a “god-fearing” Rapeublican member of the Senate does it, it’s NOT illegal!!!
—Archie Bunker’s “president”, Richard E. Nixon
July 16th, 2007 at 9:26 pmNobody wants you here anymore, coward. Your true self has been exposed. And you make real people sick.
You take on these stupid little names so that you can spout your hate-filled bile and not be held to account.
Well, you got busted, punk. Now get out. You are offensive to real people.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:27 pmHe’ll be back.
Just needs to hide under the covers for a lttle bit.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:29 pmHe’s checking to make sure the tin-foil didn’t peel off the ceiling.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:31 pmGood show, boys!
When I say dance, you dance!!!
July 16th, 2007 at 9:31 pmVitter said he would not answer questions on the issue, claiming that “might sell newspapers but wouldn’t serve my family or my constituents well.â€
Guess you and your empty-headed Stepford wife are all that matter , now that’s it’s you under the microscope , huh Shitter ?
Nor did the US or its citizens matter to both you hypocritical turds when a popular sitting president and his wife were targets for your vocal salvos , You’ve made your beds….No sleep in them , you spineless , brainless phonies.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:32 pm1. Tired Of Fighting ,
You’re a fake!
You loser.
You’re an internet geek faking like a soldier.
You a fake!
Proud of your words, boy?
July 16th, 2007 at 9:33 pmyou ever use that link I gave you to check out that Soldiers memorial? I know you didn’t. You couldn’t stand to see that he had a life to give, one worth living. While you have nothing but hate and loneliness. coward.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:35 pmVitters world: “GOP abuses and misconduct should be rewarded. DNC lapses should be impeached. GOP is above the law; DNC is the poodle.”
Sorry, Vitters: Life doesn’t work that way.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:36 pmVitter said he would not answer questions on the issue, claiming that “might sell newspapers but wouldn’t serve my family or my constituents well.â€
Well, what about his constituents who work for Louisiana newspapers?
July 16th, 2007 at 9:38 pm“Answering questions would not serve my constituents well.”
Official Republican Slogan.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:41 pmWhatever has come before, the truth is these people are hypocritical fascists. Their constituents need to wake up and find some honest legislators. Liars with their pants on fire do not serve our interests. I couldn’t care less about his personal habits, but to tell me and you and everybody else to do one thing when he’s doing another is the real crux of this. We can all do better. He’s got another 4 years unfortunately–a product of the massive election fraud perpetrated on America in the last 6 years. Isn’t Louisiana a Democratic state? How did he get elected exactly? Has anyone looked at his election?
July 16th, 2007 at 9:41 pmNope. I’m not watching it. I’ve already had my bath this evening – don’t want to have to take another.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:45 pmShameless sack of crap.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:47 pmThe Republicans are OK with this person being loose with his morals but not Clinton.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:02 pmBush told the US he was going to be an open and tranlucent government.
When will that happen?
Impeach both of the bastards.
NOW!
Better to demonize trolls that to demonize fallen soldiers.
Comment by Egreggious — July 16, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
Exactly!! You and Salesman need to keep responding to his trollings by repeating his shockingly disrespectful words. No one can take him as anything other than a joke….like calling C&L fascist. LGF or Redstate projection much, Mr. Pee?
July 16th, 2007 at 10:02 pmthank you robbez
July 16th, 2007 at 10:04 pmIf nobody minds I’d like to say something on topic. I read a desciption about this scandal. When it’s hot, it’s the humidity. With Vitter it’s the hypocracy not the sex.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:12 pmReaders might want to take in this excerpt about Vitter’s victory in 2004 from USA Today. It would seem the AP has been corrupted for a long time (surprised?). Check out the first phrase (from the 7th paragraph of the article at: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/2004-11-02-la-senate_x.htm
Then look at the last paragraph shown here (paragraph 11 of the original article).
from:
“Vitter avoids runoff, first Louisiana Republican to Senate
NEW ORLEANS (AP) 11/2/04
“Turnout set a record. Previous high was in the 2000 election when 1.8 million voters went to the polls. On Tuesday, more than 1.9 million voted.
“Vitter’s victory, and John’s loss, breaks a strong winning tradition for moderate Democrats from Acadiana, who have put together coalitions of blacks and centrist whites to win.
“In addition, John ran a sometimes hesitant campaign, stumbling in debates while Vitter sounded confident. John finished with 29% and Kennedy 15%.
“Under the state’s open primary, a candidate must get more than 50% to avoid a runoff, and Vitter just managed it. “The time for Republicans to win is tonight,†ex-Gov. Buddy Roemer said at Vitter’s victory party, summing up the GOP’s Senate-race strategy.
“Vitter was apparently also helped by bad weather across the state, dampening turnout. “Mother nature cooperated,†said a parish councilman from Vitter’s home turf of suburban New Orleans, Tom Capella, at Vitter’s victory party.”
Funny how a record turnout in a Democratic state where people waited in line for hours could produce a winning Republican, isn’t it?
Who was running the election? How did these people vote–DREs, paper, how? Were all the votes counted? So many questions, so little information.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:13 pmBTW — Have you ever heard of the Budos Band? Good god, it’s the sexiest music ever made.
Comment by Zooey
No haven’t yet
July 16th, 2007 at 10:22 pmwill have to check them out.
It does not matter, that much, that Vitter had an extra-marital affair.
What matters is that while he was risking his wife to another women’s diseases, etc. Vitter was simultaneously involving himself in the same illiicit activities which he felt strongly, verbally, and overtly to all America, that Clinton should be impeached for.
I am sick to death of these hypocritical republicans who whine, mea culpa, mea culpa, yet throw stones in order to cost the American public millions of dollars and attempt to bring down the governmental leaders(Clinton). It is appalling. Vitter should be thrown out of office, not because of his indiscreet affair, but because of the egregious, lying, complicit activity for which he felt another should be punished, but not himself. These guys are absolutely insane in my opinion. INSANE. If Vitter is a lawyer he should lose his license based on simple moral turpitude issues.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:25 pmThith guy is a disgrathe.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:26 pmIt’s incredibly hypocritical of him to have said those things about Clinton and then turned around and done the like (or worse) himself.
It’s also fairly hypocritical of us liberals to give him a hard time about having an affair when we said Clinton’s personal life didn’t affect his ability to perform his role as the President.
So call him out on his hypocrisy, but leave his personal life alone.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:26 pmso instead of confessing, vitter went into attack mode. Comment by bd — July 16, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
You would think that from what TP wrote and the clip, wouldn’t ya? Of course if TP was honest, you would know that he apologized before he began attacking his critics. Perhaps this was just a typo: “A remorseless Vitter…” and they “accidentally” cut out the first part of the clip where he apologized again. Just an honest mistake. ;)
July 16th, 2007 at 10:28 pmWhile the U.S. government and media keep focusing on defense policies, campaign advertisement and the war in Iraq, 1.2 billion people in the world continue surviving on less than $1 dollar a day. I would like to see our presidential candidates regardless of their political affiliation, support more international problems that affect our place in this world, such as global poverty. We should not forget the commitment made towards the U.N. Millennium Goals (a pact of ending extreme world hunger by the year 2025) in 2000. While the U.S. government and media keep focusing on defense policies and the war in Iraq, 1.2 billion people in the world continue surviving on less than $1 dollar a day. According to The Borgen Project, an annual $19 billion dollars is needed to eliminate half of the extreme poverty affecting the world by the year 2015. To my sense, it is almost unacceptable to have spent so far more than $340 billion in Iraq only, when we have more than war immunities to change the world and eliminate poverty.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:29 pmYou would think that from what TP wrote and the clip, wouldn’t ya? Of course if TP was honest, you would know that he apologized before he began attacking his critics. Perhaps this was just a typo: “A remorseless Vitter…†and they “accidentally†cut out the first part of the clip where he apologized again. Just an honest mistake. ;)
Comment by upright left — July 16, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
I noticed that too. Not like it matters that much. He’s still a jerk.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:30 pmNice Rack on wifey anyway.
whoops, outside voice
July 16th, 2007 at 10:31 pmLibs, stop persecuting the Senator. I truly believe that he is very apologetic about his immoral actions. Also, he has stated that he asked his family and , especially, God for forgiveness. It is very interesting that you guys decided to pick on the Senator. I just learned as of tonight that Clinton has been accused of rape by an unknown woman. Clinton=Chester the Molester. Clinton is a man that seriously needs help and redemption.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:45 pmOk, so how do we make this blow up in his face? He can’t be allowed to get away with this hyprocrosy. Let’s step up the attack!
July 16th, 2007 at 10:49 pmCJG :
we were not preaching family values nor moral BS Vitter did while he was running. No one said what BC did was OK but we were not on campaign trails talking about morality or family BS.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:51 pmOk, so how do we make this blow up in his face? He can’t be allowed to get away with this hyprocrosy. Let’s step up the attack!
Comment by SuburbanGirl — July 16, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
Aw, let him get away with it.
But it’ll be fun to see the Republicans try to run as the “family values” bunch in the next election.
That’s where the payoff is.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:52 pmI love it when these holier-than-thou morons get caught up in a sex scandal.
Ha! Ha! Vitter — yet another one of the Republican religious troglodytes — was caught with his pants down!
July 16th, 2007 at 10:52 pmNo prob, Sales. I think you and Egregg (and Zooey) have responded in the most effective way to discredit these trolls. I think that they actually DO try to make a point every now and again, rather than vandalizing a thread time and time again. Once discredited and shown to be hypocrites (egad, like Dave Vitter, above, or Newt or Mark Foley or any of many others), the trolls change names and continue to try to hijack every thread. That is why exposing Rep. Vitter’s IOIYAR excuse (or Scooter’s commute) is important now and will be in 2008. It will sink in to the 26%ers, as they become 19%ers after we bomb Iran.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:53 pmClinton=Chester the Molester.
Comment by Daryll — July 16, 2007
Shame, (not the real) Daryll, reading those old copies of Playboy from the ’70’s.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:54 pmComment by robbez_92107 — July 16, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
Thanks, bud. The lefty police may have run Salesmn off though.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:56 pmwell, who could blame him – he is Mr. Pee’s puppet and all……
July 16th, 2007 at 11:00 pmHe needs to look up the pathetic.
She needs a new hair do.
jack jett
July 16th, 2007 at 11:03 pmhttp://www.jackejett.com
He needs to look up the pathetic.
She needs a new hair do.
jack jett
http://www.jackejett.com
Comment by jack jett — July 16, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
You should look up the term “sin”. Have you repented today?
July 16th, 2007 at 11:05 pmThanks for doing all that legwork, willyloman.
The Trolls don’t deserve that much time (I wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire) but their anonymous web connection and TP’s liberal commenting policy give their childish antics more juice than they should.
Now they hide behind an impossible standard of proof (IP addresses that none of us have access to) in order to shield themselves from owning up to their disgusting display. But the case you present is pretty compelling and would make any TV lawyer proud, Hell, Fred Thompson would pronounce them guilty as sh!t on Law & Order.
Nice work.
Of course, the whole thing might be different if any of us had any reason to believe a word they posted to start with.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:06 pmLibs, stop persecuting the Senator. I truly believe that he is very apologetic about his immoral actions. Also, he has stated that he asked his family and , especially, God for forgiveness. It is very interesting that you guys decided to pick on the Senator. I just learned as of tonight that Clinton has been accused of rape by an unknown woman. Clinton=Chester the Molester. Clinton is a man that seriously needs help and redemption.
Comment by Daryll — July 16, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
I find it curious, Daryll, that you are so forigiving, but largely along political lines.
A Republican who paid for sex from a prostitute deserves our, and God’s forgiveness, yet you call a Democratic former president of the United States, “Chester the Molester” based on the accusations of “an unknown woman”. Is that because the Senator consorted with a prostitute, just like Jesus did?
Does not the Senator’s hypocrisy (calling a man unfit to govern for a lesser sin than he himself had committed) call into question the sincerity of his apology?
July 16th, 2007 at 11:14 pmYou’re a god damed liar (in addition to being a smarmy little pussy), because your remarks regarding the Republicans “having” OBL as their ace in the hole set up a series of back-and-forth posts between you and me, during which you tried to shuck and jive it off, but only succeeded in digging yourself in deeper.
You are a disgusting, lying, neocon sissy boy – perverted in mind and spirit.
Wish you were here.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:20 pmgood posts, willyloman.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:20 pmAnother republican negotiates a get-out-of-hell-for-free pass with God.
They always get the breaks with God, and it’s starting to piss me off.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:24 pmSex scandals are kick ass.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:26 pmHey man, if Daryll forgives the Vitter, its all good.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:28 pmYou should look up the term “sinâ€. Have you repented today?
Comment by Daryll
Have you judged your fellow man today?
You ask people to “lay off” a hypocrite, yet you judge others.
Or is it you only defend Republicans?
Look in the mirror, Daryll, Hypocrite is thy name as well.
May you reap the seeds of falsehood you, yourself sow.
Repentence is not attacking others as Vitter did.
Forgiveness only comes to those truely sorry for what they did.
That does not include attacking others for bringing to light your own hypocricy.
Be consistant with your faith and do not spew hate against those not Republican, and mask it as faith
But yet you defend all Republicans against all wrong they do, and yet condemn others for the same or less
Hypocrite be thy name, Daryll, it is you who should repent.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:28 pmLibs, stop persecuting the Senator. I truly believe that he is very apologetic about his immoral actions. Also, he has stated that he asked his family and , especially, God for forgiveness. It is very interesting that you guys decided to pick on the Senator. I just learned as of tonight that Clinton has been accused of rape by an unknown woman. Clinton=Chester the Molester. Clinton is a man that seriously needs help and redemption.
Comment by Daryll — July 16, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
I find it curious, Daryll, that you are so forigiving, but largely along political lines.
A Republican who paid for sex from a prostitute deserves our, and God’s forgiveness, yet you call a Democratic former president of the United States, “Chester the Molester†based on the accusations of “an unknown womanâ€. Is that because the Senator consorted with a prostitute, just like Jesus did?
Does not the Senator’s hypocrisy (calling a man unfit to govern for a lesser sin than he himself had committed) call into question the sincerity of his apology?
Comment by spit take — July 16, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
Last I heard, Clinton was back to his old filthy ways while his wife continues to deny accusations.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:30 pmHow Juicy!!! The wife looks like Zsa Zsa Gabor in “Queen From Outer Space”.
I can hear Vitter, “Satan made me do it, but since I am a clean wholesome Christian, I am forgiven, unlike that Pagan Bill Clinton”
These are the same people who hated Hippies, Peace, and Love, but liked the naked babes.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:31 pmOf course if TP was honest, you would know that he apologized before he began attacking his critics. Perhaps this was just a typo: “A remorseless Vitter…†and they “accidentally†cut out the first part of the clip where he apologized again. Just an honest mistake. ;)
Comment by upright left — July 16, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
Thanks for pointing that out.
I wish TP wouldn’t do sh!t like that, but they do it all too often. Misleading headlines are not unusual, and this time it appears that an entire article is built around a false impression.
TP, pay attention — true progressives don’t like half-truths, even if they feed into our preferred narrative. We’d rather have the truth.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:33 pmThe basic need for sex cuts accross party lines. And GWB likes party lines too.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:35 pmAnd he doesn’t like them cut with anything.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:35 pmLast I heard, Clinton was back to his old filthy ways while his wife continues to deny accusations.
Comment by Daryll
Do you have proof?
What does the bible say of those who spread gossip and hearsay Daryll?
Again, Hypocrite be thy name.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:36 pmHey Daryll, Your particular god seems to cherry pick what and who to forgive. Amazing that when Repukes and CONservs do it, we should forgive them, but when a Lib or Demo does it, they are “filthy”. This is what happens when you create deities in your own image. They are as insane and hypocritical as their creators.
You F**king people live in Bizarro World!
July 16th, 2007 at 11:37 pmLast I heard, Clinton was back to his old filthy ways while his wife continues to deny accusations.
Comment by Daryll — July 16, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
I see. And THAT is why you accept the proven hypocrite’s apology at face value, but are willing to accept the accusations of “an unknown woman”, also at face value, in order to judge a former president, to the extent that you’re comfortable calling him derogatory names.
The fact that the one for whom you have sympathy is a Republican and the one for whom you have scorn is a Democrat has nothing to do with it, eh?
July 16th, 2007 at 11:37 pmWayne lights up daryll’s ass. Don’cha wish you could just make him understand? (or beat his ass).
July 16th, 2007 at 11:40 pmOf course if TP was honest, you would know that he apologized before he began attacking his critics. Perhaps this was just a typo: “A remorseless Vitter…†and they “accidentally†cut out the first part of the clip where he apologized again. Just an honest mistake. ;)
Comment by upright left
True repentence does not include attacking those who revealed your hypocricy.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:42 pmReal repentence should involve no attack at all.
Did he apologize to Bill Clinton for casting the first stone? Did he resign? (if not, it’s an empty apology). Just like the rethugs: “I take full responsibility – as long as it doesn’t actually cost me anything or involve punishment.”
July 16th, 2007 at 11:44 pmWhat is it with these fundies? They preach moral values wihile being pedophiles, hypocrites, they ass bang Jeff Gannon, and this fool is buying whores while passing laws to go after others doing the same stuff he is doing. Rethuglicans are the scum of the earth.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:45 pmVitter:
caught in a squeeze play on the cheesy side of town.
Throw me a line, throw me a dime…
July 16th, 2007 at 11:46 pmIf God is a republican, he is not the same God I worship.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:47 pmWayne lights up daryll’s ass. Don’cha wish you could just make him understand? (or beat his ass).
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Whats really sad is he does not even understand the faith he claims to believe in.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:52 pmHe thinks Jesus wears a smoking jacket with an elephant emblem on it.
Jesus was a liberal, a radical, who spoke out against the evils of status quo.
Wayne and Marcus Aurelius, you both make good points about Vitter’s “repentence” and the good reasons to doubt its sincerity.
But I’m more concerned with the issue that upright left noted. I know TP is not really a news site, and I don’t rely on it for my news. But I would like to think that the information I find here is accurate and not spun like cotton candy. We’re not conservatives, after all.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:52 pmesus was a liberal, a radical, who spoke out against the evils of status quo.
Comment by Wayne
Why do you think he got nailed to a cross?
July 16th, 2007 at 11:53 pm#209 If God is a republican, he is not the same God I worship.
Comment by kasinca — July 16, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
LOL! Maybe god is actually a black, lesbian biker.
Seriously, I think that if a person treats humans, animals, family, and the environment kindly, the need for a dominating Deity becomes less.
As I’ve said, I know some Atheists and Agnostics who are more like Jesus than these so-called “christians” will ever be.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:54 pmThe question that comes to mind w/ Vitter is, if he knew he had sinned, why didn’t he voluntarily come forward and repent? It’s easy to say you’re sorry when your ass is on the line, but is it really genuine, or is it for the cameras?
July 16th, 2007 at 11:55 pmWhy do you think he got nailed to a cross?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 16, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
Yep, Just like Joan of Arc, Socrates, Galileo, Bruno, Reich, Einstein, and Tim Leary.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:55 pmDid Daryll run off?
July 16th, 2007 at 11:56 pmCome back and lets finish discussing the tenants of the faith you profess too Daryll.
$3000.00 this clown paid for his diaper party?
A fool and his money are some cool party.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:56 pmNow they hide behind an impossible standard of proof (IP addresses that none of us have access to) in order to shield themselves from owning up to their disgusting display.
Comment by spit take — July 16, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
Once again, I was specifically told, point blank, in an e-mail response to my complaints about the troll problem, that they (TP) were working on the problem. But, from TPs mouth, the trolls keep changing IPs, so IP bannings have had literally zero effect on the trolls. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. That is from the horse’s (TP’s) mouth.
So, anyone using the “So and so IP was banned, so he CAN’T POST ANYMORE” argument is completely full of shit.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:58 pmWhy do you think he got nailed to a cross?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Exactly.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:59 pmReal repentence should involve no attack at all.
Comment by Wayne
Careful, Wayne. You’re making what we like to call “sense”. One of these trolls heads might explode if they try to deal w/ it.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:00 amSo, anyone using the “So and so IP was banned, so he CAN’T POST ANYMORE†argument is completely full of shit.
Comment by Moderation
Yeah, I was wondering about that…
July 17th, 2007 at 12:02 amTrue repentence does not include attacking those who revealed your hypocricy.
Real repentence should involve no attack at all.
Comment by Wayne — July 16, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
I’m not sure where you get your definition of repentance, Wayne. Every definition I’m aware of involves admitting responsibility for wrongdoing and expressing remorse for it. I’d be interested to know upon what you base the “not attacking those who revealed your hypocrisy.”
July 17th, 2007 at 12:02 amA fool and his money are some cool party.
Comment by Vato
Just so long as it wasn’t tax payer money…
July 17th, 2007 at 12:03 amI’d be interested to know upon what you base the “not attacking those who revealed your hypocrisy.â€
Comment by upright left
Just out of curiosity, why do you think it is?
July 17th, 2007 at 12:06 amI’d be interested to know upon what you base the “not attacking those who revealed your hypocrisy.â€
Comment by upright left
Do you always reply without thought?
July 17th, 2007 at 12:06 amLook up the definition of repentence, and come back to show us where it includes attacking others.
Did he apologize to Bill Clinton for casting the first stone? Did he resign? (if not, it’s an empty apology). Just like the rethugs: “I take full responsibility – as long as it doesn’t actually cost me anything or involve punishment.â€
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — July 16, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
To my knowledge, he hasn’t apologized to Clinton. I was simply pointing out that TP was less than honest in what they posted. Seems only right that, if you’re pointing out the failures of others, you’d want to make sure you are honest when ya do it. It kind of detracts from your own position of moral indignation otherwise. ;)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:07 amand I misspelled it, Repentance
July 17th, 2007 at 12:08 amIn Biblical Hebrew, the idea of repentance is represented by two verbs: שוב shuv (to return) and × ×—× nicham (to feel sorrow).
In the New Testament, the word translated as ‘repentance’ is the Greek word μετάνοια (metanoia), “after/behind one’s mind”, which is a compound word of the preposition ‘meta’ (after, with), and the verb ‘noeo’ (to perceive, to think, the result of perceiving or observing). In this compound word the preposition combines the two meanings of time and change, which may be denoted by ‘after’ and ‘different’; so that the whole compound means: ‘to think differently after’. Metanoia is therefore primarily an after-thought, different from the former thought; a change of mind accompanied by regret and change of conduct, “change of mind and heart”, or, “change of consciousness”. One of the key descriptions of repentance in the New Testament is the parable of the prodigal son found in the Gospel of Luke 15 beginning at verse 11.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repentance
July 17th, 2007 at 12:09 amIt kind of detracts from your own position of moral indignation otherwise. ;)
Comment by upright left
So, how do your standards apply to your life?
;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:12 amhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repentance
Comment by Wayne
There you go w/ the “facts” again, Wayne.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:13 amDo you always reply without thought?
Look up the definition of repentence, and come back to show us where it includes attacking others.
Comment by Wayne — July 17, 2007 @ 12:06 am
That’s the best ya can do? C’mon, wayne, I expected better from ya.
re·pen·tance (rÄ-pÄ•n’tÉ™ns) n.
The act or process of repenting.
Remorse or contrition for past conduct or sin. See synonyms at penitence.
http://www.answers.com/topic/repentance
Main Entry: re·pen·tance
Pronunciation: ri-’pen-t&n(t)s
Function: noun
: the action or process of repenting especially for misdeeds or moral shortcomings
Main Entry: 1re·pent
Pronunciation: ri-’pent
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French repentir, from Medieval Latin repoenitEre, from Latin re- + Late Latin poenitEre to feel regret, alteration of Latin paenitEre — more at PENITENT
intransitive verb
1 : to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one’s life
2 a : to feel regret or contrition b : to change one’s mind
transitive verb
1 : to cause to feel regret or contrition
2 : to feel sorrow, regret, or contrition for
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/repenting
Need I continue? Of course, you knew that repentance has nothing to do with whether one attacks those who exposed them. I’m disappointed in ya, Wayne. ;)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:15 amSo, how do your standards apply to your life?
;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 17, 2007 @ 12:12 am
My conscience is quite clear, stupid! ;)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:17 amNeed I continue? Of course, you knew that repentance has nothing to do with whether one attacks those who exposed them. I’m disappointed in ya, Wayne. ;)
Comment by upright left
Oh, pul-lease, you smarmy little sh*t. So someone gets convictded of a crime, and during the sentencing, they admit they’re guilt, and then turn to attack the ones who exposed them. Oh yeh, that’s gonna go over really well w/ the judge.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:18 amNeed I continue? Of course, you knew that repentance has nothing to do with whether one attacks those who exposed them. I’m disappointed in ya, Wayne. ;)
Comment by upright left
Thanks for answering your own question. My point repentance has nothing to do with attacking others.
If you profess repentance then attack someone else, you are truely not sorry for what you yourself did.
Again Vitter shows he is a hypocrite.
Are you always so obtuse?
July 17th, 2007 at 12:19 amComment by Wayne — July 17, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Excellent, Wayne. Verification that repentance means turing away from wrongdoing. But, we’ve already established that. And I would never have considered using a Biblical reference with a lefty. Will wonders never cease! ;)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:20 amMy conscience is quite clear, stupid! ;)
Comment by upright left
As always, projecting your own faults upon others.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:23 amNo wonder you have such issues with logic.
I bet she was waiting for the results of her AIDS test before she “forgave” him. If it came back positive, there’s NO way she would have forgiven the ass-wipe.
She’s a hypocrite, too. She should have bobbitted him.
Repeat after me: Prostitution is ILLEGAL. He Broke The Law. If he didn’t break the law, what is he so sorry about?
He’s only lucky that he didn’t get a chance to lie about it before Hustler outed him.
Clinton was a shit, too. So what? He didn’t break the law with Monica, he lied when the perverted prosecutor started digging into stuff that was none of his business. Hillary is yet another hypocrite for putting up with Bill’s crap. She should have dropped him like a hot potato. Would you trust the country to someone who will put up with a cheating spouse with nary a peep?
Every politician of any party that talks about the sanctity of marriage is a lying hypocrite.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:24 amAre you always so obtuse?
Comment by Wayne — July 17, 2007 @ 12:19 am
C’mon buddy, you’re fading fast here. What’s next? “I know you are but what am I?” I’ve seen quite a few of your posts and expected far more from ya. Taking responsibility for wrongdoing, then attacking those trying to exploit it isn’t the same thing as avoiding responsibility for it. I agree completely that Vitter was wrong for criticizing others when he was guilty himself, but that’s no reason for putting forth a false argument. ;)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:26 amAgain Vitter shows he is a hypocrite.
Are you always so obtuse?
Comment by Wayne
So does Downright Wrongie, Wayne. Hopelessly dishonest person.
Me, personally? Not a nickel of sympathy for Vitter. I love watching these Rpeubs get outted as pervs.
Ka-boom! Ka-boom! Ka-boom! What’s that? the sound of reoubs self-imploding in public, like McCain’s campaign manager getting busted for offering to s*ck a cop’s d*ck.
HYSTERICAL! Especially after 7 yrs of this endless sanctimonious blather on the part of the Party of Family Values.
Hey, Wrongie, spin all the pretzel logic you want. Your side is humiliating itself to a breathtaking degree these days. Keep backing the pervs. You’ll never be alone.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Laughing all the way to the bank, Li’l Wrongie! ;-) ;-) ;-)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:26 ambut that’s no reason for putting forth a false argument. ;)
Comment by upright left
But… but… Li’l Wrongie, all you ever do is put up false arguments.
And calling me stupid? Not only are you lying, it’s JUT NOT THE CHRISTIAN THING TO DO, Li’l Buddy!
July 17th, 2007 at 12:32 amKeep backing the pervs. You’ll never be alone.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Laughing all the way to the bank, Li’l Wrongie! ;-) ;-) ;-)
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 17, 2007 @ 12:26 am
Stupid, ya gotta stop inferring things without any basis. It just makes ya look, well…stupid. Pointing out TP’s dishonesty and Wayne’s invalid statement doesn’t translate into support for Vitter. C’mon, bud, think. ;)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:33 amAnd I would never have considered using a Biblical reference with a lefty. Will wonders never cease! ;)
Comment by upright left
You assume I am a lefty.
Maybe your definition is anyone left of Cheney.
I am a veteran, I am a strict constitutionalist. One of those tenants is to promote the general welfare. Another is the right to bear arms. Freedom of religion ( not just Evangelical Christians ), separation of church and state, no searches without a warrant ( no warrantless wiretaps). No discrimination for sex, color or religion. And so on.
If you think that is a lefty, you are beyond hope.
*** This call may be monitored or recorded to insure the highest quality of your Patriotism.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:35 amBut… but… Li’l Wrongie, all you ever do is put up false arguments.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 17, 2007 @ 12:32 am
We’ve been through that before, bud. Just because ya say my point is false doesn’t make it so. Just like saying one is a Christian doesn’t make it so.
“And calling me stupid? Not only are you lying, it’s JUT NOT THE CHRISTIAN THING TO DO, Li’l Buddy!”
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 17, 2007 @ 12:32 am
I’m just shortening your name, bud! You know, like Michael gets shortened to Mike. ;)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:39 amStupid, ya gotta stop inferring things without any basis.
Comment by upright left
Pot meet Kettle.
You are obtuse.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:39 amAs well as intellectually dishonest
Gotta love the Familiar Values Party. What will they run on in 2008? Moral absolutism? Fiscal responsibility? Privacy Rights? Unilateral wars to steal other country’s resources?
Seriously, is there a principal left in their political belief system? I know principle (the interest-bearing kind) is a core value, but do they really believe in anything anymore?
And the only thing more pathetic than a hypocrite like Vitter, is an apologist hypocrite troll like Daryll who unwittingly proves how morally vacuous the belief systems of Republicans really are. Thanks Daryll!
July 17th, 2007 at 12:42 amIf you think that is a lefty, you are beyond hope.
*** This call may be monitored or recorded to insure the highest quality of your Patriotism.
Comment by Wayne — July 17, 2007 @ 12:35 am
Now, Wayne, we all know that most Americans agree on the things that you listed (though I’m sure some folks here are biting their tongues *figuratively* to keep from attacking one of their own over that right to bear arms part). It’s the things you omitted that make you a lefty. And while I’m sure you’d love for me to go into detail about that too, I haven’t the time nor the desire to do so. Most of your opinions are supported by the folks posting here. That would make you a lefty, bud. ;)
July 17th, 2007 at 12:47 amupright left, I think your argument on repentence is weak.
“Repentence” as a concept has nothing to do with “not attacking others”, you’re right. But neither does it have anything to do with :attacking others”.
Wayne’s original comment wasn’t so much about the concept of repentence as on the nature of the act.
Repentence requires remorse. And remorse generally involves a sense of one’s own failings. Attacking opponents tends to shift focus from one’s own failings to those of others, thus defeating the purpose of remorse.
That’s not to say that the attackers are right, just to say that the demonstrated remorse is… less than pure.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:55 amI’m with you, spit take.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:57 amONCE AGAIN THE SAME THING GOES FOR DEMS:
If you thought Clinton could still govern… shouldn’t this man too? I hate the Clinton defense because it always makes the Dems into hypocrites!
July 17th, 2007 at 12:58 amMost of your opinions are supported by the folks posting here. That would make you a lefty, bud. ;)
Comment by upright left
Ahh, most of my opinions based on the constitution are supported by people here, so I am a lefty.
Your tortured logic is hilarious and only highlights your intellectual dishonesty.
I am also an equal opportunity basher, I will condemn Hillary as soon as I do Bush for their nonsense. You seem to have missed those posts.
And this retired ( wounded in action ) Ranger has probably killed more terrorist that you will probably ever see in person, in your lifetime
Much as I enjoy pointing out your sillyness, I am off to bed.
You are really hillarious, I will give you that much.
For someone totally full of sh*t. And of himself, but that is redundant.
Me a lefty……
July 17th, 2007 at 12:59 amBwahahahaha
ONCE AGAIN THE SAME THING GOES FOR DEMS:
If you thought Clinton could still govern… shouldn’t this man too? I hate the Clinton defense because it always makes the Dems into hypocrites!
Comment by Anonymous By Choice — July 17, 2007 @ 12:58 am
You seem to be confusing the issue, like a lot of wingnuts here (not saying you’re a wingnut, just observing the similarity in argument).
Progressives aren’t criticizing Vitter for his lifestyle choices. Aside from his tastes being technically illegal, they’re the business of himeself and his family.
Except that Vitter made them the business of the electorate when he criticized Clinton for lesser sins than he was committing. (Clinton’s indiscretions were at least legal ones.) If you can point out where and when Clinton claimed that someone was unfit to govern because of some personal failing, I’ll grant you equivalency.
Until then, “It’s the hypocrisy, not the sex.” And they are NOT equal.
July 17th, 2007 at 1:09 amWayne’s original comment wasn’t so much about the concept of repentence as on the nature of the act.
Repentence requires remorse. And remorse generally involves a sense of one’s own failings. Attacking opponents tends to shift focus from one’s own failings to those of others, thus defeating the purpose of remorse.
That’s not to say that the attackers are right, just to say that the demonstrated remorse is… less than pure.
Comment by spit take
Exactly my point. Or the one in my tortured abuse of English, that I tried to make =)
Ok off to bed for real, I have to work in the morning.
July 17th, 2007 at 1:10 amNight all.
That’s not to say that the attackers are right, just to say that the demonstrated remorse is… less than pure.
Comment by spit take — July 17, 2007 @ 12:55 am
I would agree with you if this video involved Vitters speaking out against the original revelation. This video, in it’s entirety, involves new allegations and others who are trying to advance their own cause based upon his mistake. That is what Vitters attacked. Again, despite the inferences of some here, I don’t support Vitters. He has no business talking to others about matters of morality in light of this. However, that doesn’t make it ok for TP to engage in dishonest reporting or for bloggers to make dishonest claims about whether he has repented or not. ;)
July 17th, 2007 at 1:17 amAnother passive/aggressive evening, brought to you by upright left.
Sheesh….
July 17th, 2007 at 1:49 amAfter he made his statement of Bill Clinton it is only proper that Vitter do exactly what he asked of Bill Clinton.
Vitter now needs to act on his ideology because he cannot Govern because of this.
As far as Mrs Vitter and her comments.
I am more than sure you would like to hang on to a senator and his salary. Both Vitter’s are in the public eye. So it isn’t private any more. And you shouldn’t be left alone to just go on with your scheduled plans because you want to.
I the press would confront Vitter with his statement on Clinton and ask if he still stands by his words that “Clinton should step down because he can’t govern”
and will Vitter make a public appology to Bill Clinton for casting the stone with sin himself.
Ask Vitter if he sees life and people defferently since lapsing from sainthood?
July 17th, 2007 at 2:39 amQuestion for Mrs. Proud To Be Wendy Vitter –
You say that you dealt with this privately some time ago, and made the decision to forgive and recommit to your marriage.
Did that happen before or after you said you’d be “more like Lorena Bobbit and less like Hillary Clinton?”
July 17th, 2007 at 4:48 amVitter, shmitter! Republicans are degenerates and must be driven from our country:
Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman, pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child.Honolulu Star-Bulletin Article
Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet.
Roy Cohn, continually condemned gays and gay rights. Was a closet gay who died of AIDS.
Carey Lee Cramer Political consultant and anti-Kerry ad producer, tried for molesting two young girls, one of whom lived with him, and was 8 yrs old; the other starred in an anti-Kerry commercial. Diary Diary. The Monitor.
Dan Crane, Republican Congressman, married, father of six. Received a 100% “Morality Rating” from Christian Voice. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page. Salon.com article On July 20, the House voted for censure Crane, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct.[7]
Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN). Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay affair. Christianity Today article
Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years in prison. Investigators estimated that he spent up to $5,000,000 on prostitutes.
Missoulian Article on the trial | Missoulian Article on his conviction
Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fundraiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges. WBAL Channel article
Peter Dibble, Republican legislator pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. News Channel 8 Article
Nicholas Elizondo, Director of the Young Republican Federation molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Halfway down this Bakersfield Californian article.
Matthew Glavin, president and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, big player in the Clinton Impeachment, and many anti-gay jihads, has been arrested multiple times for public indeceny, one time fondling the crotch of the officer who was arresting him. Full Article
Marty Glickman, Republican activist, was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Mark A. Grethen, Republican activist, convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Orlando Weekly article
Jon Grunseth, Republican businessman and candidate for Minnesota governor, withdrew his candidacy after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter, and tried to grope one. “I’ve made some mistakes” he said. USA Today article
Dr. W. David Hager Bush appointee, member of Focus on the Family’s Physician Resource Council, player in movement to ban the morning-after-pill. Had an adulterous affair, before divorcing his wife he sexually abused her, including sodomizing her in her sleep. Article
Mark Harris, Republican city councilman who is described as a “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
John Hathaway, Republican Senate candidate, was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. Source: Casco Bay weekly
Howard Scott Heldreth, anti-abortion activist who gained fame during the Shiavo media-circus, was convicted of two charges of raping a child in 2002. page at Florida Department of Law Enforcement’s Sexual Offender/Predator Unit
Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, introduced by Bush on the campaign trail, and promoted his policies. Says he supports Bush’s values. Two months later, this married father of four turned himself into police, charged with the sexual exploitation of a child.
Joseph McDade, accused of exposing his private parts to two women at a beach resort on Sanibel Island. DKOS diary
Pat McPherson, Douglas County Election Commissioner. Arrested for fondling a 17-year-old girl. Article
Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17. Source: ABC News
Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee’s Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that “Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.†[9] [10]
Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist, pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
David Swartz, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Rocky Mountain News Article
Bill Thomas Republican congressman, had an affair with Deborah Steelman, a health care lobbyist who steered huge campaign gifts to Thomas’ war chest.
Strom Thurmond, republican senator and racist, raped and impregnanted a 15-year old African American maid.
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals
July 17th, 2007 at 7:14 amSo what you people are saying is it is alright for a Democrat but not a Republican? Here we go again. I want him out for moral reasons. But if you people don’t defend him like you did Clinton then you are once again “Hypocritesâ€! Your defense of Clinton was that it was his private life and nothing to do with the office. Oh, I forgot, you people are the Flip-Flop party of John Kerry.
ROTFL – I can’t keep up with your changing opinions.
July 17th, 2007 at 8:27 am98% of Congress are not fit to govern : when is the revolution?
July 17th, 2007 at 8:48 amtypical republican sleaze – made even worse by parading the offenders humilated wife in public, so much for ‘family values’
July 17th, 2007 at 8:50 ammakes me smile when the party of perverts attack bill clinton – all the destructive gop have to offer is a bunch of corrupt old farts bent on elitism and selfishness
July 17th, 2007 at 8:56 amHappy Guy -
I don’t care what the guy does in his personal life. His effectiveness as a public servant is what matters. What the ‘left’ is doing is pointing out the hypocrisy of the ‘right’ this time around. When Clinton had a personal indiscretion, the right wanted to lynch him. Now, with Vitter…. crickets can be heard from the GOP headquarters.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:08 amFrankly, I’m appalled at all you liberals. Clearly, like Tom Delay (whose adultery was not as bad as Newt’s), Vitter has already spoken to God and has been forgiven and absolved for his sins. Lest you heathens ever think you are as good as pious Vitter, remember, he is a victim here of some terrible devilry set up to hurt the conservative cause in America. Were it not for republicans like stalwort Vitter and his beautiful and chaste wife could you imagine what America would be like?
July 17th, 2007 at 9:15 amThe fact that “Clinton did it, too” is a non-issue. More relevant is that Clinton never pointed a finger at anybody else and declared them “morally unfit to govern” because of their sex life.
The fact that prostitution is illegal isn’t an issue. Cheating on your wife is cheating on your wife, whether you seduce one of your interns or go to a professional. Exceeding the speed limit is illegal, too. There are consequences to pay for either offense, but guilt doesn’t automatically make somebody ineligible for their job.
Members of both major parties can create long lists of elected officials from the “other party” who have been caught with their pants down. I personally would prefer it if EVERYBODY could keep their pants zipped. But since they don’t, I am somewhat content to let a person’s sex life be their business, unless it involves sex by force or sex with minors.
I am far more interested in what the people I elect are doing about the war in Iraq, our messed-up health care system, the budget deficit, ensuring civil rights for everyone, etc. If my president, senators, congressman, etc. is taking care of the problems I elected him to take care of, he can go hump until he drops for all I care.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:20 amlong time political enemies and those hoping to profit from the situation.â€
Yeah, that would be his constituents.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:38 amSo what you people are saying is it is alright for a Democrat but not a Republican? Here we go again.
Comment by Happy Guy — July 17, 2007 @ 8:27 am
If it’s all the same to you, Happy Guy, I think we’d prefer to let someone who actually understands our positions be the one who encapsualtes them for us.
If you can provide evidence that Bill Clinton ever stated publicly that someone guilty of infidelity is “unfit to govern” because of that infidelity, if he ever suggested that such an official should resign because of moral failings, then you might have an argument.
Excuse me — then you might have an argument that makes sense. Because you clearly have an argument right now, it’s just a really, really lame one.
It’s the hypocrisy, stupid.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:49 amOh, and I see Happy Guy also has a “shifting standard”; he equates a long list of documented and in many cases, prosecuted sexual misconduct and perversion among Republicans with a quick, slap-dash trio of rumors, innuendo and ancient history among Democrats.
Certainly proves his point. No — wait — it proves OUR point. Thanks, Happy Guy.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:05 amThese repug stooges and their enabler trolls are forgetting one thing — it’s not the adultery or the hookery that’s the issue here with Vitter, IT’S THE MORAL HYPOCRISY.
A guy who says one thing while beating his chest about how morally superior he is than someone else, but then turns around and does the same thing and only “apologizes to his wife and his God” when he’s caught, is the biggest hypocrite in the room.
Oh, except for his wife, who says if he ever did this sorta thing, she’d cut it off and leave with something in her hand. Since Vitter didn’t seem to be speaking in falsetto, and I didn’t see any blood on his pants, obviously she’s a hypocrite as well.
New motto: “The Repuglican Party — Two Hypocrites for the Price of One!!”
July 17th, 2007 at 10:26 amHere is another big difference between Vitter’s incident and Clinton’s incident.
When Clinton was caught, he lied and lied and lied and then, lied some more.
When Vitter was caught, he admitted to it the first time.
Only Liberals would defend a man that lies about his cheating.
Everyone is human and EVERYONE could have done what Clinton and Vitter did. But it is inexcusable to lie about it after you have been caught.
we all have moral lapses in which we do things that go completly against what we believe in. But most of us don’t lie about it if caught.
I am sure that this moral difference escapes most amoral Liberals.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:39 amVitter is the type of politician who tries to force that phoney chrisitianity stuff down your throat, and his personal life and character is no better than anybody else. Probably worse. Not to mention these same people don’t want to provide you with jobs, job training, a decent livable wage, affordable health care and clean water. Total hyprocisy.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 amVitter is the type of politician who tries to force that phoney chrisitianity stuff down your throat, and his personal life and character is no better than anybody else. Probably worse. Not to mention these same people don’t want to provide you with jobs, job training, a decent livable wage, affordable health care and clean water. Total hyprocisy.
Comment by AR — July 17, 2007 @ 10:45 am
You mean like the Reverend Jesse Jackson which the left worships and adores, and he actually was Clinton’s council during Clinton’s sex scandal. The Reverend who told Clinton that what he did was immoral and he should repent and then we all find out that Rev. Jesse Jackson a Christian and a Democrat had an affair and a child due to this affair?
wow, when’s the last time that Liberals and Democrats attacked Rev. Jesse Jackson for his hypocrisy? oh that’s right, NEVER!!!
shut up already with your fake moral outrage.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:49 amAdultery is not a crime. Soliciting a prostitute is. David Vitter committed multiple illegal acts while acting as a US Senator. He should be in front of an ethics committee tendering his resignation. Barring that he should be actively advocating the legalization of prostitution. Morality and hypocrisy have nothing to do w/ this. An elected official that commits an illegal act while serving should be run out of town on a rail. Why do the simplest f**king things become so mired in BS and spin? This is a minor news story, when compared to the other heinous acts committed by our elected officials, but it captures exactly how f**ked up our government is.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:06 amThere is a little device called a burrette that can keep your hair out of your eyes so you don’t have to scramble your brains with all the head shaking.
Doesn’t anyone ever tell them how stupid those hair-in-the-eyes people look with the continuous head shaking?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:22 amwow, when’s the last time that Liberals and Democrats attacked Rev. Jesse Jackson for his hypocrisy? oh that’s right, NEVER!!!
shut up already with your fake moral outrage.
Comment by Conservatron — July 17, 2007 @ 10:49 am
Uh Huh….Vitter, Jackson, and Sharpton…All Phonies.
Next case in point.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:45 amThat’s all you right-wingers want yo say when you get caught. Clinton did it too. Talk about fake moral outrage. Go listen to Sean Hannity and shut up.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:50 amComment by AR — July 17, 2007 @ 11:50 am
AR: the trolltards seem to have a new mantra — now it’s not just “Clinton did it too” but also “Jesse Jackson did it too”.
In the end, who cares — phonies and hypocrites are equally reviled here regardless of political persuasion. But it sure is a lot more fun watching the so-called moral majority on the right being forced to exorcise the demons amongst them on a daily basis!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:56 am278… you nailed it
July 17th, 2007 at 11:56 amIn a word, yes. It’s the hypocricy, Dummy!
July 17th, 2007 at 12:05 pmAnd oh by the way… the latest from AP “none of the above” for the GOP candidate for president. Sounds like a lot of discontent from inside the GOP’s own camp.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:28 pmI am not sure if it is such a big deal that we find out a Republican Senator is wearing diapers.
I just assume all of them we wearing DEPENDS and we know they are all full of shit.
Jack Jett
July 17th, 2007 at 12:36 pmhttp://www.jackejett.com
Conservatroll:
I take it you’re here to replace Daryll? No doubt you’re done and it’s his shift at the RNC cathouse.
Here’s a better thought: shut up already with your fake moral intellect. The only good thing that can be said of Vitters that can’t be said of most others Retardlicans who’ve fallen from grace: at least this time the prostitute was female.
Gotta laugh at those rainbow Republicans; they put the “hyp” back in “hypocrisy”
July 17th, 2007 at 2:04 pmVitter and his wife are…
…exemplary conservative Republicans…
…their hypocrisy is exquisitely blatant…
July 17th, 2007 at 4:05 pmThis is friggin Hilarious!!!!! Do the right thing David Vitter resign, before your wife has to go through any more humiliation, Senator Vitter, you sir, are a sack o’ shit. Yuk, yuk, har, har!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 4:11 pm#103
Comment by Wayne — July 16, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
“Sorry to break it to you, your wife pays me.”
That as good of a joke as mine! I know you are just joking behind that keyboard of yours.
July 17th, 2007 at 7:48 pm#213
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 16, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
“Jesus was a liberal, a radical, who spoke out against the evils of status quo.”
My how the liberals today have move away from what he represented not to mention being in favor of the status quo.
July 17th, 2007 at 7:55 pm#265
Comment by Lora — July 17, 2007 @ 9:14 am
“…and the fact that Robert Byrd long ago apologized for his earlier involvement with the KKK and now has a very high rating from the NAACP.”
You know and I know that the ONLY reason KKK Byrd got a pass from the NAACP is because he is a Democrat. I wouldn’t have made a bit of difference if ANY Republican apologized and you know it. They would never let them live it down. The NAACP is a partisian hack group led by Jackson and Sharpton.
July 17th, 2007 at 8:02 pmI(t) wouldn’t have made a bit of difference if ANY Republican apologized and you know it. They would never let them live it down. The NAACP is a partisian(SIC) hack group led by Jackson and Sharpton.
Comment by Tracy — July 17, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
I know that my Caucasian, Republican late stepfather was a card-carrying member of the NAACP. I also know that it extended invitations to all GOP contenders for president to come to a recent meeting, but only Congressman Tancredo showed up. BTW, its chairman is Julian Bond.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:39 pm#290
Comment by Lora — July 17, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
“I know that my Caucasian, Republican late stepfather was a card-carrying member of the NAACP.”
Was your stepfather a former Klan member that apologized for his past affiliation and was also a member of Congress? Example: If it were divulged that say Norm Colman senator from Minnesota, was a former KKK member, the NAACP wouldn’t give him that time of day much less let him become a member of the NAACP.
“I also know that it extended invitations to all GOP contenders for president to come to a recent meeting, but only Congressman Tancredo showed up.”
I might as well have been the Black Panthers or the Nation of Islam handing them out…both of which are racist groups.
“BTW, its chairman is Julian Bond.”
But the leaders are Sharpton and Jackson two of the most racist people in America.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:09 pmThe Ballad of David Vitter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsRSFR–gpI
This pretty much encapsulates my reaction.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:15 pmComment by Tracy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
Poor little Chickenhawk Tracy knows he is no longer in a position to speak loftily about the “nobility” of the war in Iraq while he sits home with his “wife and kids,” whom he doesn’t “want to leave for an extended period of time,” so now he is trying to argue about racism. I’m not buying it–particularly on a thread about Senator Vitter, who, we both agree, should resign.
July 18th, 2007 at 5:51 pmExample: If it were divulged that say Norm Colman(SIC) senator from Minnesota, was a former KKK member, the NAACP wouldn’t give him that time of day much less let him become a member of the NAACP.
comment by Tracy Chickenhawk…..July 18, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
It is interesting that you picked the example of Norm Coleman (R, MN), who you probably know used to be Democrat. A friend of mine in Minnesota told me how Coleman, when running for Senate, showed up at a tribute to F. Scott Fitzgerald, undoubltely one of the most famous people to hail from St. Paul. According to my friend, Coleman uttered some platitudes to Fitzgerald, but it was quite apparent to the audience that he had never read any of F. Scott’s works and didn’t know what he was talking about–just a phony attempt to capture the “intellectual vote.”
July 18th, 2007 at 6:19 pmOr maybe it’s no coincidence that of all the examples you could have used, you chose especially for the Vitter thread that of Coleman, who has long been rumored to be into kinky sex and to have an “open marriage” with his actress-wife. To use one of your favorite expressions, “LOL.”
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Comment by Lora — July 18, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
“…so now he is trying to argue about racism.”
You are the one who brought it up. I was countering your BS stepfather example that had zero relation to the debate. But then again that’s normal for you to interject irrelevant garbage in a lame attempt to try and debate. You aren’t good at it.
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:28 pm#292
Comment by Lora — July 18, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
“Or maybe it’s no coincidence that of all the examples you could have used, you chose especially for the Vitter thread that of Coleman, who has long been rumored to be into kinky sex and to have an “open marriage†with his actress-wife.”
Funny you should yet again bring up another rumor. I don’t think this is coincidence anymore. It’s more like norm for you. LOL!
BTW, when are you actually going to address my comment with a decent response that is relevant?
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:33 pmYou are the one who brought it up. I was countering your BS stepfather example that had zero relation to the debate.
comment by Tracy
No, Tracy-chickenhawk,
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:47 pmAnother troll brought up Byrd and you also accused the NAACP of being a racist organization. The fact that my Caucasian Republican, late stepfather belonged to the NAACP was relevant in countering your assertion, little boy, who won’t even stand up for his wife’s reputation.
BTW, when are you actually going to address my comment with a decent response that is relevant?
Comment by Tracy — July 23, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
Why should I bother addressing you at all, Tracy Chickenhawk–a guy who throws out endless insults, thinks only he knows what is relevant, and has a penchant for appearing days later on an almost dead-thread? Didn’t you call me a “nat”(SIC) not worth debating or something like that on another thread? Actually, almost every poster here thinks you’re an annoyance–a gnat, and you haven’t won any debates here.
July 23rd, 2007 at 8:02 pmI’ve already spent far too much time on you, little boy. I have better things to do this week.
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Comment by Lora — July 23, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
“The fact that my Caucasian Republican, late stepfather belonged to the NAACP was relevant in countering your assertion….”
My assertion that the NAACP was a racist organization was that based on the fact, AGAIN, that if it were divulged that say Norm Colman(SIC) senator from Minnesota, was a former KKK member, the NAACP wouldn’t give him that time of day much less let him become a member of the NAACP.
July 23rd, 2007 at 8:04 pmIt’s a double standard for them. The fact that your step father was a member is irrelevant to our discussion because he was never a congressman or of any importance in U.S. congressional politics.
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Comment by Lora — July 23, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
“….and has a penchant for appearing days later on an almost dead-thread?”
Hey,I actually had work to do and was out of town on business in Mesa, AZ. You on the other hand seems like you were WAITING for me to post a response. Talk about no life! LOL!
“Actually, almost every poster here thinks you’re an annoyance–a gnat, and you haven’t won any debates here.”
Whatever! You claimed that all those who didn’t serve in WW2 couldn’t for a variety of reasons then said later you were aware that there were chickenhawks during WW2. Then You falsely accused me of defending the Bush daughters here:
“…when you constantly defend the Bush brats and their various cousins for not setting a fine example by joining Dumbya’s “noble cause.â€â€
….but we both know that you lied or weren’t paying attention. Which is it?
“I’ve already spent far too much time on you, little boy. I have better things to do this week.”
Yeah right! Your word ain’t worth shit little girl.
July 23rd, 2007 at 8:16 pmFunny you should yet again bring up another rumor. I don’t think this is coincidence anymore. It’s more like norm for you. LOL!
comment by Tracy
I admit the rumors about Norm Coleman (whose name you still can’t spell, though you were the first to mention him) are just that: rumors. But I do have good sources in both Hollywood and Minnesota.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:27 amAs for Jeff Gannon, the logs exist of the gay prostitute’s many visits to the WH. These are not rumors, and until someone comes up with a good explanation of why a hooker who was still advertising his services on the Internet was visiting the WH even when there were no press conferences scheduled I have every right to surmise that the reasons were not innocent, little boy. You may as well stop acting like Little Lord Flaunteroy, because considering the foul (or “fowl” in your spelling) language you frequently use, we all know that you are not.
As for rumors, you have been supporting though, of course, not participating, in a war based on rumors and lies about WMD, little chickenhawk twit.
I sometimes look back at old threads out of curiosity. There are some that I haven’t bothered to look any further because I know it will just end with more of your misspelled bile and drivel.
Finally, my word certainly isn’t worth sh.t, as you claim, because it is in fact worth a lot. Yours is worth less than a pot of merde, little chickenhawk twit.
Final words for you, Tracy Chickenhawk,
July 24th, 2007 at 1:19 amI’m sure it gives you great pleasure to call a woman who is both older and obviously better educated than you “little girl.” We all know that you wouldn’t have the nerve to call one of the male posters–particularly one of the veterans– “little boy.” Your insecurity and cowardliness show through, silly, little chickenhawk twit. You’re about as pathetic as they come.
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Comment by Lora — July 24, 2007 @ 12:27 am
“I admit the rumors about Norm Coleman…”
You admit something? No way! I am impressed.
“But I do have good sources in both Hollywood and Minnesota.”
And those “good” sources would be?
“I have every right to surmise that the reasons were not innocent…”
If you still wish to continue to wallow in the tabloid world of rumors, speculation, and innuendo then…oh well.
“You may as well stop acting like Little Lord Flaunteroy…”
I don’t wish to be or intend to. Bad example.
Little Lord Fauntleroy…typo?
“….in a war based on rumors and lies about WMD”
The intelligence was wrong. What specific “lies” are you referring to?
“…because it is in fact worth a lot.”
How do you figure? You just said in your last post that you had better things to do this week. Your word is worth less than shit or “merde”, which ever you prefer.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:39 am#300
“I’m sure it gives you great pleasure to call a woman who is both older and obviously better educated than you “little girl.—
You might be older (that’s obvious) but you absolutely aren’t better educated. Are you trying to be funny?
“We all know that you wouldn’t have the nerve to call one of the male posters–particularly one of the veterans– “little boy.—
I have already called out Wayne for his comment about my wife. He is obviously a wimp because he never responded.
Your insecurity and cowardliness show through, silly, little chickenhawk twit.”
I am the ONLY one in this blog who has ever gave someone a time and place to have it out. Out of the three I have Ryan Neat, Bartlebee, and Wayne, NONE of them have accepted my offer.
“You’re about as pathetic as they come.”
And you are the littlest girl, in every sense of the word, I have ever had the pleasure of laughing at.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:48 am