Comments on: Voinovich: Bush Has ‘F’ed’ Up The War, Needs To Start Thinking About His Legacy

By: Tom Van Zanten

Tom Van Zanten — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:45:51 +0000

I don”t think I will ever live to see the best or one of the greatest U.S. Presidencies. But I can say I have lived to see the worst. Bar none George Bush has done more harm to the U.S. and the world than could have been imagined.

By: AR

AR — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:52:22 +0000

There is no legacy except a corrupt and destructive one.

By: ipod

ipod — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:52:27 +0000

And Bush Fâ€™d up Katrina relief, immigration, the medicare drug program, the war in Afghanistan, healthcare, the justice department, the supreme court, the environment, the Consititution of the United States, Americaâ€™s opinion in the world, human rights, the military . . . . .

Comment by assman â€” July 16, 2007 @ 1:57 pm

….and completely murders the english language every time he speaks.
and another thing,rove actually has to speak with people about the chimp’s legacy?? – why?

By: Lora

Lora — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:12:58 +0000

Well there is at least one George in Washington DC who isnâ€™t afraid to tell the truth – took him long enough to do it – but he did it.
And I think he should have said that Bush â€œCheneyed Upâ€ the war. IMO.
Comment by Ben Dover â€” July 16, 2007 @ 1:50 pm

Now and then Voinovich has moments of lucidity. After all, he was the only prominent Republican to express doubts about Bolton’s appointment as Ambassador to the UN, though he didn’t go as far as voting against it.
Moreover, I believe he is facing re-election next year. He surely doesn’t want to go the way of his former fellow Ohio Senator DeWine.

By: frylock

frylock — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:41:48 +0000

The most stupid and most incompetent president (or is it Cheney) ever!!!!!

Other than that what is there?

By: dale54

dale54 — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:30:50 +0000

I’m afraid that Bush is not only thinking about his legacy, but thinks that the only way to salvage it is to “stay the course.” He can’t admit that he screwed everything up — it’s not in his nature and it would be an admission of failure and incompetence that would mar his legacy forever. And the situation in Iraq is far too bleak to fool people again by pulling the troops out while claiming “mission accomplished.”

So the only thing left for Bush to do is to appear to be the full-of-conviction, come-hell-or-high-water stubborn crusader for freedom while riding out his presidency. Then if, by some miracle, something good happens in Iraq in subsequent years, he can always say, “See, I told you it was right to stay the course… never give up on freedom!!” Or, more plausibly, if things just continue along in their chaotic free fall, he can claim either that the new administration didn’t have the vision/courage to stay the course and the further deterioration in Iraq is their fault, or simply let history associate the messy pull out and its successes and failures to the new administration. Certainly it will take a considerable amount of time to redeploy, and as the situation grows worse, every further loss along the way can be pinned on the incompetence of the new administration. I can imagine Bush apologists saying, “Yeah it was bad, but it was never THIS bad… this administration really is screwing things up,” thereby transferring focus away from Bush for the whole mess. Republican or democrat, the new administration will have to be consistent and relentless in reminding people that the only reason we were in Iraq and made this mess was because of the arrogance and incompetence of the current administration.

So, unfortunately I feel that any concerns that Bush may have about his legacy will not incline him towards early redeployment, rather they will make him more resolute on staying the course… that’s just the kind of man he is, I’m afraid.

By: Dr. Serizawa

Dr. Serizawa — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:39:10 +0000

Responding to comment #1 (Ichiban), you wouldn’t happen to know where those two singing fairies from Infant Island are about now? And, do they work on monstrously AWFUL presidents?

By: Roy

Roy — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:01:11 +0000

It is interesting our war(t) in Iraq has so many congruencies to a similar debacle more than 30 years ago. Not the least of which will be the blaming of the failed policy on the opposition party. The corruption with in the administration, a complete lack of insight or acknowledgement of the harsh facts, coupled with inept military leadership and demoralization of the enlisted ranks all smack of 1973.

By: Sluggo

Sluggo — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:37:27 +0000

Here you go with the Republicans bailing out of the burning plane called the Bush Administration.

The fact that traditional conservatives are making the jump indicates that they are starting to hear the folks back home. They are starting to get scared about their own political base. With Congress held by the Democrats and the only strategy one of filibuster, Republicans really have no other way out. Bush and his Gang have no more chips to offer Republican congressmen (and women).

And with the Whitehouse being lost in 2008 and the likely growing majority in Congress, smart Republicans must start thinking of themselves NOW and not wait. Those that are still staying on board the burning airplane hoping Bush and Chaney can bring it in for a safe landing are just delusional.

The next three months will see a lot more Republicans start jumping out the hatch. Sit back and watch the fun.

By: Karim

Karim — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:28:48 +0000

Even Republicans are sick of Bush’s crap.

By: FreedomOfInformationAct

FreedomOfInformationAct — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:11:56 +0000

The entire Bush administration has “@#&! ED UP THE WAR”

Impeach em all, and let god sort em out.

By: Ohio

Ohio — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:07:13 +0000

Voinovich talks tough but refuses to vote to end the war or give our troops rest between tours of duty. Voinovich is SPINELESS because he won’t stand up to Bush.

By: Boudin Bob

Boudin Bob — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:51:24 +0000

Thank you Mr. President.

By: walter66

walter66 — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:44:19 +0000

Sen. Voinovich is certainly worried about someone’s legacy and it sure ain’t George Bush’s

By: Mr. President

Mr. President — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:37:36 +0000

Comment by Boudin Bob â€” July 16, 2007 @ 3:22 pm

You’re always welcome here, Bob!

By: Boudin Bob

Boudin Bob — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:22:19 +0000

Mr. President and CT_V1 back at it again. I thought they were kicked out of here.

Geez. There really should be a registration and a visible IP-number system here. I’m not Mr. President or CT_V1. Can’t you get your heads around the fact that there are plenty of conservatives on this site, too!?

By: Perry Logan

Perry Logan — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:16:34 +0000

Just seven years ago, Bush and Cheney were The Perfect Conservatives. Conservatives questioned your patriotism if you criticized them in any way. These guys were going to show the world what some real conservatives could do.

By: Zimzone

Zimzone — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:52:59 +0000

The RNC will be held in St. Paul next August.

A WHOLE BUNCH of Minnesotans are looking forward to raining on that parade!

By: Zimzone

Zimzone — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:51:42 +0000

I”m certainly not a Voinovich fan, but he did rip Sean Insannity a new one of the radio, just days before the Immigration Bill vote.

Insannity kept butting in spewing his agenda, & Voinovich finally just hung up, telling him he wasn’t being respectful & wouldn’t let him talk.

By: LividLib

LividLib — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:47:41 +0000

By the way: Anyone think bushie is going to be a big part of the 2008 republic convention?

Comment by helenahandbasket
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Ooh, I hadnâ€™t thought of that! They may have to dig up Ronnie!

Comment by bogtrotters

That pretty much sums up republican party – BRAIN DEAD!