Live-Blogging The Senate Iraq Filibuster
[ThinkProgress is at the Capitol building, live-blogging the all-night conservative filibuster of Iraq withdrawal legislation.]
12:27 AM: 1,000 people gathered outside the Capitol tonight for a rally and candlelight vigil. Watch a highlight video of speeches from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), Iraq war veteran Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-PA), Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), and Sens. Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Patty Murray (D-WA):
12:10 AM: Sen. Joseph Lieberman’s (I-CT) metaphor bites:
Some have said that [Levin/Reed] is the only amendment with teeth. It does have teeth but I think we’ve got to ask: who’s it bite? I think it bites our hope for success in Iraq. It bites our troops as they proceed day in and day out courageously, compassionately, effectively. It bites our hope for keeping al Qaeda and Iran out of controlling Iraq. This amendment mandates a retreat.
Watch it:
11:17 PM: Just in: 57 House members and 25 senators — fully a quarter of the Senate — attended the candlelight vigil and rally outside the Capitol tonight. We’ll have a highlight video soon. Speaker Pelosi’s speech is HERE.
10:49 PM: Take action. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) urges you to make a call to wavering senators. See his personal “all-nighter” call sheet.
10:25 PM: Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA):
And finally, improving the image of the United States and repairing the damage done to our credibility around the world. Does anyone believe truly that this war has gained us respect in the council of world nations? Does anyone believe that? Because if they do, they’re smoking something. Because it hasn’t. There has never been a time when America has less credibility abroad than today.
10:06 PM: Huffington Post is staying up tonight too. There’s a live chat tonight tomorrow with Tom Matzzie from Americans Against Escalation.
9:49 PM: More from the Iraq rally outside the Capitol: Sen. Patrick Leahy addresses the crowd, “Thank you, you’re a lot nicer to me than Dick Cheney.”
9:41 PM: Americans Against Escalation In Iraq, MoveOn.org, and others are holding a candlelight vigil and rally right now across the street from the Capitol:
A report from the rally:
Shortly after 9pm, Senate leadership took the stage. Reid spoke first, followed by Speaker Pelosi. She asked the crowd, “Are we united in speaking out against Republican obstructionism?” The crowd responded with a roar!
Pelosi was followed by Sen. Durbin — then Rep. John Lewis and then Schumer, then Pat Murphy, then Patty Murray — who led the crowd in a “Wake up” call chant.
From the Senate, we have in attendance the following: Reid, Reed, Durbin, Levin, Schumer, Pelosi, Leahy, Klobuchar, McCaskill, Murray, Akaka, Casey, Lautenberg, and Harkin.
During the middle of the program, the House emptied out and flooded the rally.
9:32 PM: For the past few hours, Democratic Senators have taken the floor to call for an up-or-down vote on the Levin-Reed Iraq redeployment bill. Providing political cover for the Bush administration, one Republican Senator after another has stood and voiced objection to moving forward on the legislation. Some examples:
SEN. KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON (R-TX): I object.
PRESIDING OFFICER: Is there objection?
HUTCHISON: I object.
[…]
SEN. JOHN WARNER (R-VA): Mr. President, I object.
PRESIDING OFFICER: Is there objection?
WARNER: Yup.
Watch the obstructionism in action:
9:25 PM: After some technical difficulties, we’re off. Bob Geiger has been covering the action thus far, with a “desperate buzzphrase count” from war supporters. From Sen. Kit Bond’s (R-MO) speech:
* “Retreat and defeat” 3
* “Cut and run” 2
* “Run and leave” (See “Cut and run”) 1
* “Embarrass the president” 1
are we there yet?
July 17th, 2007 at 9:28 pmThe Dems don’t have to embarrass the president. He’s done a pretty good job of that by himself.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:29 pm“Embarrass the presidentâ€
I sure as hell hope so!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:30 pmhere’s robert parry’s latest, an opinion with which i wholeheartedly agree…
our country is in the midst of the most serious threat to its survival as a constitutional republic in its long and proud history… every congressman and every 2008 presidential candidate ought to be sounding the alarm from every courthouse tower in every county seat in the country - and they’re not… we cannot rest one single moment until bush and his criminal compadres are removed from the white house…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
July 17th, 2007 at 9:30 pmHow can you possibly embarrass President Shit-For-Brains? He’s too dumb to be embarrassed.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:32 pmIf possible, could you count the term “precipitous withdrawal” too?
Thanks
July 17th, 2007 at 9:32 pmIt’s democracy mr. president. You should read up on it sometime.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmHelp make 50,000 letters to Senate tonight…..go to this link
http://www.democrats.org/page/speakout/IraqObstruction
Do it now and tell your senators where you stand.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmFunny
http://web.mac.com/ ryskind/ iWeb/ Site/ The%20Ryskind%20Sketchbook.html
July 17th, 2007 at 9:35 pm“desperate buzzphrase countâ€
ADD : political theater, political stunt
July 17th, 2007 at 9:35 pmwhat’s wrong with embarrassing the President?
He embarrasses himself daily!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:37 pmEmbarrass the President?
“I’m the master of low expectations.” —aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003
“We need to counter the shockwave of the evildoer by having individual rate cuts accelerated and by thinking about tax rebates.” —Washington, D.C. Oct. 4, 2001
“See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don’t attack each other. Free nations don’t develop weapons of mass destruction.” —Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
“If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.” —Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Stop… Stop… you’re killing me… no, serioulsy, you can’t make this stuff up. The BLEEPIN’ idiot actually those things.
And HOW are the Dems embarrassing him, exactly?
July 17th, 2007 at 9:37 pmThe Dems are all talk and no action. Cut off the funds, already.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:37 pmHutchison should be ashamed, her remarks were pathetic, and a bit frightening in thier ignorance. She sounded like a nanny bowing before W.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:37 pmThis is an invitation, in my book. An invitation to join those who respect and hold dear the truths and sacrifices that have kept us free for over 200 years. I only hope to grasp the persistence and hold true to its aspirations in the same vain as the company I have been coupled with in this fine thread. I shall show no more humility in my life than I do here this evening.
Keep the spade of our endurance close to your hearts my friends…
July 17th, 2007 at 9:39 pmThanks for the new thread TP!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:40 pmYou don’t blame a wife for pointing out that her drunken husband fell and pissed on the Christmas tree…so why do you say thinking people are trying to embarrass the drunken AWOL fool making the greatest blunder in the history of the United States of America?
Dubya looks dumb because he is dumb.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:43 pm#9–already done. thanks for the tip.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:44 pmThere is only one remedy for this president, IMPEACH NOW!!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:46 pmInteresting that Alexander is touting the ISG. Those reccomendations were taboo for so long and now he wants to accept the ISG. Another flipper. I’m hunting now for his earlier comments on the ISG
July 17th, 2007 at 9:47 pm#2 — Bravo!!! That’s exactly what I was going to say.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:48 pmI object!
Comment by Mr. President — July 17, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
Says $hit for brains.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:49 pm@#9
Thanks for heads up. Complete and sent!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:49 pmWOW Lamar Alexander almost forgot to say “political stunt” the required 20 times. McConnell is gonna spank him.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:50 pmDems don’t have the balls to impeach Bush. He’d streamroll right over the hapless clowns.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:50 pm“Embarrass the presidentâ€
This President is an embarassment to every American who has ever lived.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:50 pmAmen.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:51 pmWe could really mess with W by each of us sending a bottle of Scotch to WH.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:52 pmGet’em Droling a twitching and when he walks by a microwave he’ll piss his pants and forget who he is for a half hour…
This President is an embarassment to every American who has ever lived.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
God, yes.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:53 pmGood for Lamar. He’s one of the very few Republicans I can deal with. I’m glad he lost the grunge look, though. Yeesh!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:53 pmDems don’t have the balls to impeach Bush. He’d streamroll right over the hapless clowns.
Comment by The Captain
The Dems don’t have the VOTES to impeach, you idiot. Until enough Repubs find THEIR balls, this goes on.
BTW, you seem a little TOO interested in other men’s privates, if ya catch my drift, and I’m sure you do.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:53 pm“It’s democracy mr. president. You should read up on it sometime.
Comment by hellinabucket — July 17, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
————————————————————————————-
Great!!!
Count me in!!!
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I object!
Comment by Mr. President — July 17, 2007 @ 9:37 pm”
And the buzzword that ThinkProgress uses, “Obstructionism”, is actually Democracy in action as well. I hope the Republicans “obstruct” the hell out of those pandering, give up at all costs Democrats.
Frankly, the only mistake George Bush made in this war was not enough force in the first place. In a war, you fight to win. Those who don’t submit are killed, and the rest either fall into line or are killed as well. That’s how war should be fought. We could have taken out all of Iraq without ever looking an Iraqi in the eye, and looking back on it, that’s how it should have been done.
I only hope Dubya doesn’t make the same mistake in Iran. Now that would be dissapointing.
Face it folks, George W. Bush shouldn’t have to be cleaning up a mess that “Jimmah” Carter created in the first place. If Carter had half the resolve and steadfast determination (Read: Balls) that President Bush has, we wouldn’t have to be fighting Muslin extremists right now. Let’s hope Bush takes out a few thousand more of those b*stards on his way out of the White House.
Until you people realize that it’s either us or them, you are on the losing end. And you know what? Your’s first on the Muslim hit list. As for me and my house, we are locked and loaded.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:53 pmThis President is an embarassment to every American who has ever lived.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
God, yes.
Comment by Zooey
This has gone WAAAY beyond embarrassing right up to: “Truly Dangerous.”
July 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pmJesus Christ, Lamar Alexander is stupid!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pmThanks #9
Sent to both Senators Brickwall and Fingersintheears.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pmI’m sure Mr. Inhofe will regard this letter as all the others I’ve written.
“…our country is in the midst of the most serious threat to its survival as a constitutional republic in its long and proud history…”
I agree we’re in bad shape, but the Civil War may have been worse.
At least then we had a leader who wasn’t a traitor, I guess.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pmLamar Alexander is sitting on the fence. He knows Bush has lost his credibility. But that’s all I’m gonna offer to you TP comment deleters!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pmDon’t feed the trolls. :)
July 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pmBEE PEOPLE!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:57 pmThen some:
http://web.mac.com/ ryskind/ iWeb/ Site/ The%20Ryskind%20Sketchbook.html
July 17th, 2007 at 9:57 pmYeah, but Bush’s balls are between his shoulders.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:57 pm“Your’s first on the Muslim hit list.”
If they(Muslims terrarists) had any brains at all they would they would go after the Right. As for me and my house? We’ll just sit back and laugh with our popcorn.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pmAlexander has been pretty steady on the ISG and was one who was earlier pushing for it.
Didn’t care for the kindergarten remark.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pmAs for me and my house, we are locked and loaded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
The only locked in your house is your mouth, in the permanent run position, and the only thing loaded is the seat of your trowers, A**hat.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pmBigfoot, small brain.
-GSD
July 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pm“And the buzzword that ThinkProgress uses, “Obstructionismâ€, is actually Democracy in action as well.”
Of course it is. I don’t think anyone here has claimed otherwise. But there are consequences for obstructing what the people want.
“I hope the Republicans “obstruct†the hell out of those pandering, give up at all costs Democrats.”
See you in 2008.
“Frankly, the only mistake George Bush made in this war was not enough force in the first place.”
Oh, garbage. Not this crap again? What part of “Shock and Awe” were you unhappy with? We won the fricking war, moron; we’re now caught in the middle of a civil war. Just whom, precisely do you want to kill? And why?
“We could have taken out all of Iraq without ever looking an Iraqi in the eye, and looking back on it, that’s how it should have been done.”
Well, sure, if you’re an idiot.
“I only hope Dubya doesn’t make the same mistake in Iran. Now that would be dissapointing.”
He can’t. He hasn’t got the army to do it with.
“Face it folks, George W. Bush shouldn’t have to be cleaning up a mess that “Jimmah†Carter created in the first place.”
LOL… Now you’re really getting desperate. Sorry, kid, but Bush is stuck with this war. No amount of silly comments like these will persuade the American people that it’s Jimmy’s fault. They know who wanted this war and who pushed for this war and who owns this war.
“Until you people realize that it’s either us or them, you are on the losing end. And you know what? Your’s first on the Muslim hit list. As for me and my house, we are locked and loaded.”
Really? In my house, the windows are open and I’m enjoying the pleasant breeze. And I’ll go to work tomorrow without even a single thought about “us or them.” Because the simple reality is that I’m in far more danger on my commute to and from work than I ever was, or ever will be, from a terrorist attack.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:59 pmComment by Paul — July 17, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
agreed
July 17th, 2007 at 10:00 pmFace it folks, George W. Bush shouldn’t have to be cleaning up a mess that “Jimmah†Carter created in the first place. If Carter had half the resolve and steadfast determination (Read: Balls) that President Bush has, we wouldn’t have to be fighting Muslin extremists right now. Let’s hope Bush takes out a few thousand more of those b*stards on his way out of the White House.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
How does one begin to explain what a total IDIOT you are??
July 17th, 2007 at 10:00 pmAs for me and my house, we are locked and loaded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Cool, we’ll leave you alone, come hell or high water.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:02 pmHope the beer holds out, so’s you can stay loaded.
Bigfoot got bush balls on his brain.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:02 pm“How does one begin to explain what a total IDIOT you are??”
You really can’t, of course, and I shouldn’t have tried. My apologies. I really do know better, but sometimes the troll post is just so hilariously silly that you cannot help yourself.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:02 pmI’m liking the Senator from Louisiana.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pmComment by howzit — July 17, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
maybe on his chin as well
July 17th, 2007 at 10:05 pmMan this is a joke and your party is a joke. Nothing will happen. You guys are so naive. These people are wasting their rest time. Hippies, come off the pot and support Iraqis and the troops. I will continue to pray for your party.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:05 pmI really do know better, but sometimes the troll post is just so hilariously silly that you cannot help yourself.
Comment by PaulB
But try we must, PaulB, for the sake of our own sanity. Of course, it’s also just as effective simply get them by the scruffs of their greasy necks and rub their noses in it, so to speak, and very entertaining, too!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI will continue to pray for your party.
Comment by Daryll
And I, in turn, will continue to tell ya to: BUGGER off, ya tosser!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:07 pmWhen ever Bush is Getting ready to speak I always get this vision of Cousin Eddy….. SHITTERS FULL!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:07 pm“Yeah, but Bush’s balls are between his shoulders.
Comment by howzit — July 17, 2007 @ 9:57 pm”
Even if that were the case, at least he has a pair. That’s more than I can say for most of you folks who suffer from “Bush Derangement Syndrome”.
“Bush Derangement Syndrome-An irrational fear and hatred for our duly elected President, George W. Bush. Symptons include dour demeanor, lack of humour, glassy eyes, mumbling, and the constant repetition of the word “impeach”. Also includes drooling at the thought of high crimes and misdemeanors, even when there is no actual evidence to back that thought up. Cure: Mental maturity beyond the approxiamate age of 15. Reading the words of the founders. Thinking with ones brain. Prognosis: Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Rudy Guliani, or multiples therof, in the White House in 2008.”
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmLamar Alexander says his grandfather was a locomotive engineer who turned trains around and Bush could be the locomotive President who gets the US back on the tracks.
WTF?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmI have listened to alot of the plea speeches from your party. You guys have turned this war into a political issue. That is completely disgusting. Do you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmEverytime I read a TROLL note like Bigfoots, all I hear is the immortal lyrics of Piggy and Fear:
Let’s have a war!
Sell the rights to the networks!
Let’s have a war!
Let our wallets get fat like last time!
Let’s have a war!
Give guns to the queers!
Let’s have a war!
The enemy’s within!
or as the DKs said,
Now that we have the nueteron bomb, it’s quick and clean….
Whatever.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmLandrieu says the Senate is not a Hollywood set.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmThe Senator from LA is speaking about OBL and post #56 says it’s a joke. Wow. I’m going to pray for that poster. Sad, missguided fool.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmPerhaps, but trolls never learn, even when their noses are rubbed in it. In this case, I do have one point I can defend: I really wanted to contrast the difference between how Mr. Bigfoot and I are choosing to live our lives.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:09 pmDaryll,
shove your prayers up in the same place where your whacko religious beliefs are. It would be as useful to you!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pm“I will continue to pray for your party.”
Really? Why?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pmAs for me and my house, we are locked and loaded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 17, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
So what are you gonna do if they (all 10 of them) hit you with RPG’s ? and throw 5$ rugs at your windows ? and (this is really bad) cut your cable during “talking Points) ? Them browned skinned diablos.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pm“Cure: Mental maturity beyond the approxiamate [sic] age of 15.”
ROFL… Oh, the irony… Although I do have to question whether Mr. Bigfoot has actually reached said mental age yet.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:11 pmThanks! I work until 10:30 pm every night. Makes it a tad difficult to keep track of some things.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:11 pmActually, I think Bush’s balls are between BIGFOOTS shoulders.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:11 pmAnd thats right where Bigfoot loves them.
Bigfoot gett’en busy….YUMMY!!!
and Bush could be the locomotive President who gets the US back on the tracks.
and Bush could be the loco president who puts the US flat on it’s back.
(there, fixed it for ya, Lamar)
July 17th, 2007 at 10:12 pmLIEberman sucks!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:12 pmDid Lieberman just say “pepickerly”?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:13 pmLIEberman sucks!
Is that why his chin is withering into his gums?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:14 pmDo you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll
Yes, bring them home. They are not cannon fodder.
No, they don’t want us there.
Yes, we’re not doing that in Iraq.
Be gone, wanker.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:14 pmPoor Joe. al caca 1, we must have 60 votes to get a simple majority of 50. it is so important to him that his vote counts for something other than little joe.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:14 pmsad fellow with nothing left to say. This should get his state to recall him.
Not only that Zooey, but he could suck the life out of the entire room. Can you imagine sitting down to dinner with this guy.
You don’t need to have 60 votes before you vote Joe. What an ass.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:16 pm“You guys have turned this war into a political issue.”
Strange, that’s precisely what the Republican Party did in 2002 and 2004, and tried to do in 2006. And now you’re disgusted?! Where have you been?
“Do you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?”
Sure. Do you? If so, then why are you supporting someone so manifestly incapable of doing these things?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:16 pmLie Berman ……. putting in a word or two for Israel with his ever-worsening drinker’s complexion..hiccup
July 17th, 2007 at 10:17 pmI did some more reading, and here’s a couple more symptoms of “Bush Derangement Syndrom” for ya’:
“Screeching like Hillary Clinton, or Profane screeching like Rosie O’Donnell.”
I think we’ve seen a few examples of that right here in this thread!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:17 pmSome Love
July 17th, 2007 at 10:17 pmhttp://web.mac.com/ ryskind/ iWeb/ Site/ The%20Ryskind%20Sketchbook.htm
I have listened to alot of the plea speeches from your party. You guys have turned this war into a political issue. That is completely disgusting. Do you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone - Jesus H Christ
July 17th, 2007 at 10:18 pmWe have anti-war protests in Vermont all the time. I guess, in order to get Leahy to come there has to be national TV there.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:18 pmDo you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
Daryll, what a thoughtfull and considered post. You deserve an intelligent and respectfull response. Your I.Q must be beyond even Mensa standards.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:18 pmGo $uck yourself.
Poor Joe…..” DAHHH—– NO—–ONE—— WANTS—– TA —–PLAY —- WIT —–M-E-E-E…..
July 17th, 2007 at 10:19 pmAttack Iran,Attack Iran…uhmmmm…Why are we all here again?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:19 pm“Death to America!” - Senator Joe Lieberman
(someone needs to make a youtube video totally taking that out of context)
July 17th, 2007 at 10:20 pmDo you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
Do you truly care for our troops, killing more Iraqis, generating more terrorism?
There - fixed it for you.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:21 pmYou guys have turned this war into a political issue. That is completely disgusting. Do you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
We “turned” this war into a political issue?
It was a political issue on April 19, 2003.
No, earlier. It was a political issue in the fall of 2002.
It’s a political war. It has always been a political war. It’s not just American politics - it involves Israeli politics, Irani politics, Turkish politics, Lebanese politics, Saudi politics, Syrian politics, and even Iraqi politics. Everybody’s got a piece.
This war is nothing but politics, and it’s never been anything but politics.
So don’t lecture us about “turning it into” a political war. Please.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:22 pmScreeeeeeeching, like Screeeeeecher Pelosi!
Comment by Mr. President
Oh, you know that doesn’t make any sense. Nancy doesn’t screech like you do. Funny, she’s a woman, and you’re ostensibly a man, yet she seems to have a bigger pair than…
Oh, BTW, about that comment you made the other day… still trying to tell people the Sauids aren’t Moslems?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:23 pm@ #9:
Done. everybody send a letter to your Congresscritters.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:24 pmLieberman speaks,zzzzzz,wheel out the cots, pronto.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:24 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:24 pmGoal…. G-O-A-L.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:25 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
Comment by Daryll
Hey Daryll, I didn’t know you were Iraqi. What do you mean WE?
We all question your sanity — everyday — and your humanity.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:26 pm#51 LOL You hit the nail on the head! This guy’s out of it!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:26 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
And we must continue to fight to keep him from coming back.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:26 pmLIEberman is like a direct feed from Cheney’s brain. He is using every single Repug talking point I have read. He has no shame.
Despite the fact that his statements are unproven and based on faith (who still has that in this POTUS?), he still tells little anecdotes and compliments to the right to sound reasonable. What a Fraqin tool!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:27 pm“So what are you gonna do if they (all 10 of them) hit you with RPG’s ? and throw 5$ rugs at your windows ? and (this is really bad) cut your cable during “talking Points) ? Them browned skinned diablos.
Comment by Joefriday — July 17, 2007 @ 10:10 pm”
Hell, don’t worry about it, Joefriday. Acording to you, the terrorists don’t exist anyways. All those reports of terrorist attacks worldwide are just made up stories to control us here in the U.S., right?
The only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11. You’d better accept that, or you’re still going to be staying up late, uselessly posting “Impeach Bush” over and over until all hours of the morn.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:27 pmIraq can’t be a defeat if there is really no possible way to gain a victory
July 17th, 2007 at 10:28 pmLieberman speaks,zzzzzz,wheel out the cots, pronto.
Comment by Mike — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Disrespectful. We listened to the Democratic Senators. This is what Senator Lieberman is talking about. Your party is making this war a partisan issue. Stop it! Think about are citizens, Iraqi citizens and the troops. Your comment has proven that you have turned the war into a partisan issue. Try to show some respect and patriotism.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:28 pmHey daryll, saddam was CONTAINED & ZERO THREAT… but you knew that honey.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:28 pm“Embarrass the presidentâ€
This is the sick reason/excuse the 109th RubberStampers gave when they ended the more than 40 some-odd years of the yearly Veteran groups meeting with Congress. Because it might embarrass the President.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:28 pmBecause the VA the way it was/is being run is an embarrasment.
Poor Joe Blow is ending up his speech by talking about biting.
Give Joe lithium, he is one sad, miserable, disaster, prophet.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmThe only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.
Vacation?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmThe bogeyman may be coming tonight.
So I’m going to Sweden and kill everybody.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmWhat Jump party Joe should do then is vote against the bill. Bring it up and vote on it. All of the republicans are scared that they would have to put a vote out against bringin troops home.
I wonder if any of the trolls here even read the latest Reed/Levin Amendment.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmjew lie-berman needs to be in a straight jacket.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmI say cut off their peaches and see what happenes
July 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pmComment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
If that is your only justification for invading Iraq then it is your own sanity that is in question.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pmDarryl,
July 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pmcareful what you pray for.
pray that when this is over they don’t have a bigger monster in charge.
The only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.
Read my mail?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Saddam was a bad guy - I grant you that. But there are a lot of bad guys running a lot of countries out there. I’d love to see Robert Mugabe or Idriss Deby or Omar al-Bashir or Hosni Mubarak or the Burmese military junta go down. But unilateral invasion is not the answer to these leaders any more than it was in Iraq.
And “regime change” involves more than just removing a leader. You also have to replace the leader with something competent. The only thing worse than a horrible dictator is a power vacuum.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmAnd we must continue to fight to keep him from coming back.
Comment by Egreggious
**snort**
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
And we must continue to fight to keep him from coming back.
Comment by Egreggious — July 17, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
Another partisan comment. We must continue to fight to bring liberation to Iraq and to prevent terrorism from occuring on our soil. That should be the common goal. Why is this silly amendment being considered anyway?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmThe only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.
Save New Orleans?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmSTFU, Joe.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pm“Your party is making this war a partisan issue.”
Er…public support for the war is pretty steady at 27%, while disapproval of how Bush has run it is around 67%. Opposition to the war is not partisan; it’s pretty well widespread.
Why do Republicans insist upon making the Iraq occupation a partisan issue, instead of serving the best interests of the American people, Daryll?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pmThe only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.
Tried to push Social Security reform?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pmI made a partisan comment. I must be drunk again.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:33 pmEVERYONE NEEDS TO WRITE THE TROOPS AND LET THEM KNOW EXACTLY WHICH OF THESE OBSTRUCTIONISTS ARE SO IF THEY MAKE IT BACK ALIVE, THEY CAN TAKE THEIR POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER OUT ON…. AND TROOPS FEEL FREE TO GET IT ALL OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:33 pmHey daryll, saddam was CONTAINED & ZERO THREAT… but you knew that honey.
Comment by Fan_of_Man — July 17, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
But he was a radical leader. Anything could have happened with him still in power. We are better off without him. Thank you Jesus!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:33 pmOsama bin Laden has been dead for 5 years.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:34 pmThis comment is so full of lies, distortions and rank idiocy, I don’t even know where to start.
okay, here:
Hey, dickface - Iraq had nbothing to do with 9-11, and certainly didn’t have plans or the wherewithal to attack us. Where do you come up with all of this “kill them all” venom? You need a big ol’ Democratic hug.
Then, there’s this wingnuttery:
“We people” are Americans. Us or them? Where did you ever even see one of “them”? You sound like you’re ready to wet your freekin’ pants. Just stay locked in your house and for god’s sake keep your paranoia under control - you wouldn’t want to hurt the wife and kids (as if you haven’t already). we’ll come and tell you when “it’s” over.
God, you are one stupid piece of shit.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:34 pmAnother partisan comment. We must continue to fight to bring liberation to Iraq and to prevent terrorism from occuring on our soil. That should be the common goal. Why is this silly amendment being considered anyway?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Liberation?
Please find me the dictionary that defines “liberation” as “starting a civil war that threatens to destabilize an entire region.”
July 17th, 2007 at 10:34 pmYes thank you Jesus for delivering us from a radical leader. No radical leaders here.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmWe live in a representative democracy, but no one is representing us. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmBut he was a radical leader. Anything could have happened with him still in power. We are better off without him. Thank you Jesus!
Comment by Daryll
Jesus doesn’t hang people, idiot.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pm“I don’t think there’s a person in this room that doesn’t believe Mr. Petraeus will tell the truth about what he believes is going on.” - Sen. Lieberman
Well, yes, I’m sure Petraeus believes he’s succeeding. He was cherry picked for his optimism after Bush fired all the other generals that showed a smidgeon of doubt in his heroic grand plan. Oh god, no he’s saying that it’s World War 3 just because Osama Bin Ladin says its World War 3. What a trustworthy source, Joe! You and Osama are like peas in a pod.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmare these quotes from the fake Bin Ladin tape?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmWOW! Daryll is really out there. Like, in a high orbit around…… Pluto?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmyeah daryll, radical BUT CONTAINED & ZERO THREAT…. try again sweetie
July 17th, 2007 at 10:36 pmI simply cannot believe the bloviation going on right now from Joe Lieberman. Jumpin’ Jesus on a pogo stick, is this guy ever a WINDBAG.
Not just a windbag . . . a windbag who’s DEAD WRONG!!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:36 pmwe’ll come and tell you when “it’s†over.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — July 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
That part’s not true, is it? :D
July 17th, 2007 at 10:36 pmDarryl,
careful what you pray for.
pray that when this is over they don’t have a bigger monster in charge.
Comment by scscomp — July 17, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
We have set the right person in place to lead Iraq (PM Maliki).
July 17th, 2007 at 10:37 pm“Hell, don’t worry about it, Joefriday. Acording to you, the terrorists don’t exist anyways. All those reports of terrorist attacks worldwide are just made up stories to control us here in the U.S., right?”
LOL… Nice strawman, dear heart. Are you really so pathetic that you can’t deal with we’re actually saying, so you just have to make stuff up?
“The only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.”
ROFLMAO… Let’s see … Al Qaida regrouping, Pakistan and Afghanistan crumbling, Iraq a fricking disaster, a new al Qaida wing in Iraq that wasn’t there before, Iraqis agreeing that it’s okay to kill American soldiers, worldwide incidents of terror up each year since your hero began this “global war on terror.” And I should be grateful, why, exactly?
“You’d better accept that”
Nah, I never have had much luck “accepting” total fantasy.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:37 pmPlease do not feed Daryll and Bigfoot. My scroll button is sticky.
Dudes, we know… you support the war, the troops, the president…. Death to Al queda, Death to Sadam, Death to the rag heads, Death to the enemies of America, peace and liberty…. YadaYadaYada.
We know your votes, we want to have the Senate votes on record.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:37 pmdaryll, you are making this too easy…. i see you are a glutton for punishment.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:38 pmLieberman is a flat our LIAR. He and Bush constantly try to connect Saddam Hussein and bib Laden! They have NOTHING to do with each other. The only reason Al Quaeda is even IN Iraq is because WE are there occupying their country. Bad enough he took the focus off our REAL enemy of 9/11 and decided to go expel Hussein from Iraq, no connection WHATSOEVER with 9/11, so he kills him and we are Still there. Even by his own warped logic, we should have been out of there and reduced to peace keeping troops immediately after their election. They keep lying and lying and people believe their lies, they believe the Prez when he proclaims the “same people in Iraq are the ones that attacked us on 9/11″ there is not ONE shred of truth to it. Now we have depleted our troops and increased the threat to the USA dramatically with this idiotic occupation.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:38 pmThese LIARS all belong in prison.
Nice logic Joe - if we leave, both Iran AND al-Qa’ida win! Two enemies of each other - they both win!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:38 pm“Anything could have happened with him still in power.”
Nope, because he lacked the power to do “anything.”
July 17th, 2007 at 10:38 pmTry to show some respect and patriotism.
Comment by Daryll
When did you serve Bud?
Who the f*ck are you to question anyone elses patriotism?
Let me explain this to you: Blind unquestioning obedience to people who promote purely corporate and fascist agendas is not the definition of patriotism.
Supporting the Constitution which was created and defended by the blood of brave men and women throughout the History Of this Country is Patriotism.
Fighting to defend that same Constitution is Patriotism.
Supporting people who have ripped that Constitution ( Ehich GWB lovingly refers to as that goddammed piece of paper )to shreads is NOT THE DEFINITION OF PATRIOTISM!!!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmWe have set the right person in place to lead Iraq (PM Maliki).
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
Praise Jesus for Maliki!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmWe have set the right person in place to lead Iraq (PM Maliki).
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
We set him in place? I thought we were bringing democracy to Iraq. You mean alll those people got purple fingers for nothing??
July 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmand now for the Israeli point of view …Israel Joe? take it away
July 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmany guesses on how many “highlights” we’ll see from the republicans by major media outlets vs. the amount we’ll see by democratics?
i’m guessing 4 to 1.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmFace it folks, George W. Bush shouldn’t have to be cleaning up a mess that “Jimmah†Carter created in the first place. If Carter had half the resolve and steadfast determination (Read: Balls) that President Bush has, we wouldn’t have to be fighting Muslin extremists right now.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 17, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
A little history lesson may be in order. Reagan/Bush are responsible, they had a deal with Iran.
Read a book!
Joe Lieberman you lying sack of excrement. Al Qaeda in Iraq. We can’t leave Iraq because of Al Qaeda. So that NIE he’s quoting is clear evidence that their policies have failed to do anything but embolden and recruit for Al Qaeda.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmYour party is making this war a partisan issue.â€
Er…public support for the war is pretty steady at 27%, while disapproval of how Bush has run it is around 67%. Opposition to the war is not partisan; it’s pretty well widespread.
Why do Republicans insist upon making the Iraq occupation a partisan issue, instead of serving the best interests of the American people, Daryll?
Comment by Cynicor — July 17, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
Do not ask ignorant questions. You know that the Republicans did not make this war a partisan issue. We are looking out for the world, in general. It’s your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08′. Democrats=exploitation.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmWe have set the right person in place to lead Iraq (PM Maliki).
Comment by Daryll
Again with the “WE.”
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmWe should let them fight us here. Please, please, let them invade Texas.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pm“…I question your sanity.”
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
And I question yours every time you post. I don’t “have to agree with” that sagging sack of shite. Or with you: “…we are all better off without Saddam.” Who’s “we…all”? You? What was Saddam doing to you? The Iraqis? Yeah, I’ll be that the ones left alive after what this administration has done to them will be real thankful that we destroyed their country. Try to think about what you’re saying, maybe you’ll realize just how nonsensical it sounds. Do they serve the koolaid at whatever church it is you hang out in?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:41 pmOk, if Lieberman goes for much longer I’m going to surrender…he’s so toughlaugh, chuckle
July 17th, 2007 at 10:41 pmDo not ask ignorant questions. You know that the Republicans did not make this war a partisan issue. We are looking out for the world, in general. It’s your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08′. Democrats=exploitation.
Comment by Daryll
Leave it to you to buy into White Man’s Burden. Oh the irony….
July 17th, 2007 at 10:41 pm“You know that the Republicans did not make this war a partisan issue.”
To the contrary, we know that they did, and they freely admitted it.
“We are looking out for the world, in general.”
Really? Who is this “we” you speak of? And does “the world” want to be looked out for?
“It’s your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08′.”
Turnabout is fair play, dear. Of course, if Bush hadn’t mucked things up so badly, the Democrats wouldn’t be doing as well as they are now and will do in 2008. Praise Jesus!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:42 pmWhy is our military staying in Iraq central to the “War on Terror”? I want real answers and not the “get’em there so we don’t fight them here” crap. What does the logistical expenditure of the mightiest military in the history of the world have to be in Iraq to achieve any goal of defeating AQ? Terrorist attacks in Iraq have gone thru the roof since we arrived there but yet the brain dead still say we are safer.
Nowhere has Bush, Alexander, Lieberman, Frist or any other of the right stated how they will pay for any of this (throws the fiscal responsibility tag of the republicans out the window).
The military is stretched more now than at any time in recent history and no plan to resupply, or rest, or provide the proper care for the soldiers and marines.
Nowhere does any democrat talk about wanting to “cut and run”.
Vote for Cloture(sp?), allow the bill to come to the floor. Let the President veto the bill. Show some balls. You too, Senator Dole.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:43 pmIt’s amazing. He has used every talking point since 2002!
If he uses ‘defeatacrats” it will be a perfect 10!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:43 pmBut he was a radical leader. Anything could have happened with him still in power. We are better off without him. Thank you Jesus!
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Yes, George W. Bush was a radical leader. Anything and everything did happen while he was still in power. We are absolutely better off without him. Thank y…
What?
We haven’t yet?
What do you mean, “off the table”?
What more will it take???
WAKE UP, AMERICA!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:43 pmDaryll has now convinced me. God placed George W. Bush on the throne so that he could discredit the Republican Party and drive them from power once and for all. Praise the Lord! Can I hear an amen?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:44 pmNowhere has Bush, Alexander, Lieberman, Frist or any other of the right stated how they will pay for any of this (throws the fiscal responsibility tag of the republicans out the window).
Comment by hellinabucket — July 17, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
We borrow it from China. They get it from Wal*Mart customers. Simple!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmThank you Jesus!
Comment by Daryll
Just run, Forrest.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmHow many times has israel-Joe mentioned Iran?
50-60?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmAnother partisan comment. We must continue to fight to bring liberation to Iraq and to prevent terrorism from occuring on our soil. That should be the common goal. Why is this silly amendment being considered anyway?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Liberation?
Please find me the dictionary that defines “liberation†as “starting a civil war that threatens to destabilize an entire region.â€
Comment by toasterhead — July 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
We did not start a civil war. These are tribes that have been fighting for control for years. We are in Iraq to end the civil war, restore peace, deter citizens from joining terrorist organizations and to completely shut down Al Queda.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmWhat did Jump Party Joe say about sleeping?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmLandSurveyor: Turn off Rush Limbaugh, and move toward the light.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmPaulB, my god that was great.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmIRAN HAS BEEN AID AND COMFORT TO THE BEE PEOPLE!!!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:46 pmAMEN
July 17th, 2007 at 10:46 pmThe stuntsman is Mitch McConnell. He’s filibustering. It’s his filibuster. I see it as a stunt, too, that the same idiots. like him and Bunning, who conspired to start the idiotic war, should now get a vote to continue it. The electorate in Kentucky should look for new Senators not so ready to waste their blood!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:46 pmWhat did Jump Party Joe say about sleeping?
Comment by hellinabucket — July 17, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
I don’t know. I nodded off.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:47 pmWe are looking out for the world, in general. It’s your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08′. Democrats=exploitation.
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Ah yes, For we are the Cops of the World
You sir are part of the ignorant masses these people need to actualize their plans.
Here’s what the neo cons think:
“Secular society in their view is the worst possible thing,” because it leads to individualism, liberalism, and relativism, precisely those traits that might encourage dissent, which in turn could dangerously weaken society’s ability to cope with external threats. “You want a crowd that you can manipulate like putty,” according to Drury.
That’s all you are to them. Putty. Useful idiots, like Lieberman. That is why we mock your posts, because they are using you precisely because you are uneducated and rabid. Like they consider you to beone of them.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:47 pmThey are the elite, we are their pawns; unless we choose not to be.
What’s your choice?
Do not ask ignorant questions. You know that the Republicans did not make this war a partisan issue. We are looking out for the world, in general. It’s your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08′. Democrats=exploitation.
Yes, Republicans are doing what’s best for the ignorant masses, while Democrats are very sleazily doing what the stupid people of the United States actually want. THIS IS A DEMOCRACY. The government SHOULD be doing what the people want. Sure, if the Democrats get more votes out of that, they’ll be happy. But it’s the whole point of democracy to do what your constituents want. It’s a government of the people, by the people and for the people. If you don’t want the government to do what the people want, if you want your government to ignore the people and just do what the government has decided is “best for the people,” then maybe you should go move to Saudi Arabia, or China or North Korea, or maybe you should go join the fascist party, but you don’t belong in a democracy.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmThe chymp IS an embarassment to the nation.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmamen PaulB
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmWhat is the chance that any of these shmucks mention the primary reason we are in Iraq?, Oil.
ZERO
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pm