Live-Blogging The Senate Iraq Filibuster
Live-Blogging The Senate Iraq Filibuster
[ThinkProgress is at the Capitol building, live-blogging the all-night conservative filibuster of Iraq withdrawal legislation.]
12:27 AM: 1,000 people gathered outside the Capitol tonight for a rally and candlelight vigil. Watch a highlight video of speeches from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), Iraq war veteran Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-PA), Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), and Sens. Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Patty Murray (D-WA):
12:10 AM: Sen. Joseph Lieberman’s (I-CT) metaphor bites:
Some have said that [Levin/Reed] is the only amendment with teeth. It does have teeth but I think we’ve got to ask: who’s it bite? I think it bites our hope for success in Iraq. It bites our troops as they proceed day in and day out courageously, compassionately, effectively. It bites our hope for keeping al Qaeda and Iran out of controlling Iraq. This amendment mandates a retreat.
Watch it:
11:17 PM: Just in: 57 House members and 25 senators — fully a quarter of the Senate — attended the candlelight vigil and rally outside the Capitol tonight. We’ll have a highlight video soon. Speaker Pelosi’s speech is HERE.
10:49 PM: Take action. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) urges you to make a call to wavering senators. See his personal “all-nighter” call sheet.
10:25 PM: Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA):
And finally, improving the image of the United States and repairing the damage done to our credibility around the world. Does anyone believe truly that this war has gained us respect in the council of world nations? Does anyone believe that? Because if they do, they’re smoking something. Because it hasn’t. There has never been a time when America has less credibility abroad than today.
10:06 PM: Huffington Post is staying up tonight too. There’s a live chat tonight tomorrow with Tom Matzzie from Americans Against Escalation.
9:49 PM: More from the Iraq rally outside the Capitol: Sen. Patrick Leahy addresses the crowd, “Thank you, you’re a lot nicer to me than Dick Cheney.”
9:41 PM: Americans Against Escalation In Iraq, MoveOn.org, and others are holding a candlelight vigil and rally right now across the street from the Capitol:
A report from the rally:
Shortly after 9pm, Senate leadership took the stage. Reid spoke first, followed by Speaker Pelosi. She asked the crowd, “Are we united in speaking out against Republican obstructionism?” The crowd responded with a roar!
Pelosi was followed by Sen. Durbin — then Rep. John Lewis and then Schumer, then Pat Murphy, then Patty Murray — who led the crowd in a “Wake up” call chant.
From the Senate, we have in attendance the following: Reid, Reed, Durbin, Levin, Schumer, Pelosi, Leahy, Klobuchar, McCaskill, Murray, Akaka, Casey, Lautenberg, and Harkin.
During the middle of the program, the House emptied out and flooded the rally.
9:32 PM: For the past few hours, Democratic Senators have taken the floor to call for an up-or-down vote on the Levin-Reed Iraq redeployment bill. Providing political cover for the Bush administration, one Republican Senator after another has stood and voiced objection to moving forward on the legislation. Some examples:
SEN. KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON (R-TX): I object.
PRESIDING OFFICER: Is there objection?
HUTCHISON: I object.
[...]
SEN. JOHN WARNER (R-VA): Mr. President, I object.
PRESIDING OFFICER: Is there objection?
WARNER: Yup.
Watch the obstructionism in action:
9:25 PM: After some technical difficulties, we’re off. Bob Geiger has been covering the action thus far, with a “desperate buzzphrase count” from war supporters. From Sen. Kit Bond’s (R-MO) speech:
* “Retreat and defeat” 3
* “Cut and run” 2
* “Run and leave” (See “Cut and run”) 1
* “Embarrass the president” 1
are we there yet?
July 17th, 2007 at 9:28 pmThe Dems don't have to embarrass the president. He's done a pretty good job of that by himself.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:29 pm“Embarrass the presidentâ€
I sure as hell hope so!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:30 pmhere's robert parry's latest, an opinion with which i wholeheartedly agree...
our country is in the midst of the most serious threat to its survival as a constitutional republic in its long and proud history... every congressman and every 2008 presidential candidate ought to be sounding the alarm from every courthouse tower in every county seat in the country - and they're not... we cannot rest one single moment until bush and his criminal compadres are removed from the white house...
And, yes, I DO take it personally
July 17th, 2007 at 9:30 pmHow can you possibly embarrass President Shit-For-Brains? He's too dumb to be embarrassed.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:32 pmIf possible, could you count the term "precipitous withdrawal" too?
Thanks
July 17th, 2007 at 9:32 pmIt's democracy mr. president. You should read up on it sometime.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmHelp make 50,000 letters to Senate tonight.....go to this link
http://www.democrats.org/page/speakout/IraqObstruction
Do it now and tell your senators where you stand.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmFunny
http://web.mac.com/ryskind/iWeb/Site/The%20Ryskind%20Sketchbook.html
July 17th, 2007 at 9:35 pm“desperate buzzphrase countâ€
ADD : political theater, political stunt
July 17th, 2007 at 9:35 pmwhat's wrong with embarrassing the President?
He embarrasses himself daily!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:37 pmEmbarrass the President?
"I'm the master of low expectations." —aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003
"We need to counter the shockwave of the evildoer by having individual rate cuts accelerated and by thinking about tax rebates." —Washington, D.C. Oct. 4, 2001
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." —Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." —Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Stop... Stop... you're killing me... no, serioulsy, you can't make this stuff up. The BLEEPIN' idiot actually those things.
And HOW are the Dems embarrassing him, exactly?
July 17th, 2007 at 9:37 pmThe Dems are all talk and no action. Cut off the funds, already.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:37 pmHutchison should be ashamed, her remarks were pathetic, and a bit frightening in thier ignorance. She sounded like a nanny bowing before W.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:37 pmThis is an invitation, in my book. An invitation to join those who respect and hold dear the truths and sacrifices that have kept us free for over 200 years. I only hope to grasp the persistence and hold true to its aspirations in the same vain as the company I have been coupled with in this fine thread. I shall show no more humility in my life than I do here this evening.
Keep the spade of our endurance close to your hearts my friends...
July 17th, 2007 at 9:39 pmThanks for the new thread TP!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:40 pmYou don't blame a wife for pointing out that her drunken husband fell and pissed on the Christmas tree...so why do you say thinking people are trying to embarrass the drunken AWOL fool making the greatest blunder in the history of the United States of America?
Dubya looks dumb because he is dumb.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:43 pm#9--already done. thanks for the tip.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:44 pmThere is only one remedy for this president, IMPEACH NOW!!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:46 pmInteresting that Alexander is touting the ISG. Those reccomendations were taboo for so long and now he wants to accept the ISG. Another flipper. I'm hunting now for his earlier comments on the ISG
July 17th, 2007 at 9:47 pm#2 -- Bravo!!! That's exactly what I was going to say.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:48 pmI object!
Comment by Mr. President — July 17, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
Says $hit for brains.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:49 pm@#9
Thanks for heads up. Complete and sent!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:49 pmWOW Lamar Alexander almost forgot to say "political stunt" the required 20 times. McConnell is gonna spank him.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:50 pmDems don't have the balls to impeach Bush. He'd streamroll right over the hapless clowns.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:50 pm“Embarrass the presidentâ€
This President is an embarassment to every American who has ever lived.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:50 pmAmen.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:51 pmWe could really mess with W by each of us sending a bottle of Scotch to WH.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:52 pmGet'em Droling a twitching and when he walks by a microwave he'll piss his pants and forget who he is for a half hour...
This President is an embarassment to every American who has ever lived.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
God, yes.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:53 pmGood for Lamar. He's one of the very few Republicans I can deal with. I'm glad he lost the grunge look, though. Yeesh!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:53 pmDems don’t have the balls to impeach Bush. He’d streamroll right over the hapless clowns.
Comment by The Captain
The Dems don't have the VOTES to impeach, you idiot. Until enough Repubs find THEIR balls, this goes on.
BTW, you seem a little TOO interested in other men's privates, if ya catch my drift, and I'm sure you do.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:53 pm"It’s democracy mr. president. You should read up on it sometime.
Comment by hellinabucket — July 17, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
————————————————————————————-
Great!!!
Count me in!!!
——————–
I object!
Comment by Mr. President — July 17, 2007 @ 9:37 pm"
And the buzzword that ThinkProgress uses, "Obstructionism", is actually Democracy in action as well. I hope the Republicans "obstruct" the hell out of those pandering, give up at all costs Democrats.
Frankly, the only mistake George Bush made in this war was not enough force in the first place. In a war, you fight to win. Those who don't submit are killed, and the rest either fall into line or are killed as well. That's how war should be fought. We could have taken out all of Iraq without ever looking an Iraqi in the eye, and looking back on it, that's how it should have been done.
I only hope Dubya doesn't make the same mistake in Iran. Now that would be dissapointing.
Face it folks, George W. Bush shouldn't have to be cleaning up a mess that "Jimmah" Carter created in the first place. If Carter had half the resolve and steadfast determination (Read: Balls) that President Bush has, we wouldn't have to be fighting Muslin extremists right now. Let's hope Bush takes out a few thousand more of those b*stards on his way out of the White House.
Until you people realize that it's either us or them, you are on the losing end. And you know what? Your's first on the Muslim hit list. As for me and my house, we are locked and loaded.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:53 pmThis President is an embarassment to every American who has ever lived.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
God, yes.
Comment by Zooey
This has gone WAAAY beyond embarrassing right up to: "Truly Dangerous."
July 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pmJesus Christ, Lamar Alexander is stupid!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pmThanks #9
Sent to both Senators Brickwall and Fingersintheears.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pmI'm sure Mr. Inhofe will regard this letter as all the others I've written.
"...our country is in the midst of the most serious threat to its survival as a constitutional republic in its long and proud history…"
I agree we're in bad shape, but the Civil War may have been worse.
At least then we had a leader who wasn't a traitor, I guess.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pmLamar Alexander is sitting on the fence. He knows Bush has lost his credibility. But that's all I'm gonna offer to you TP comment deleters!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pmDon't feed the trolls. :)
July 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pmBEE PEOPLE!
July 17th, 2007 at 9:57 pmThen some:
http://web.mac.com/ryskind/iWeb/Site/The%20Ryskind%20Sketchbook.html
July 17th, 2007 at 9:57 pmYeah, but Bush's balls are between his shoulders.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:57 pm"Your’s first on the Muslim hit list."
If they(Muslims terrarists) had any brains at all they would they would go after the Right. As for me and my house? We'll just sit back and laugh with our popcorn.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pmAlexander has been pretty steady on the ISG and was one who was earlier pushing for it.
Didn't care for the kindergarten remark.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pmAs for me and my house, we are locked and loaded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
The only locked in your house is your mouth, in the permanent run position, and the only thing loaded is the seat of your trowers, A**hat.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pmBigfoot, small brain.
-GSD
July 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pm"And the buzzword that ThinkProgress uses, “Obstructionismâ€, is actually Democracy in action as well."
Of course it is. I don't think anyone here has claimed otherwise. But there are consequences for obstructing what the people want.
"I hope the Republicans “obstruct†the hell out of those pandering, give up at all costs Democrats."
See you in 2008.
"Frankly, the only mistake George Bush made in this war was not enough force in the first place."
Oh, garbage. Not this crap again? What part of "Shock and Awe" were you unhappy with? We won the fricking war, moron; we're now caught in the middle of a civil war. Just whom, precisely do you want to kill? And why?
"We could have taken out all of Iraq without ever looking an Iraqi in the eye, and looking back on it, that’s how it should have been done."
Well, sure, if you're an idiot.
"I only hope Dubya doesn’t make the same mistake in Iran. Now that would be dissapointing."
He can't. He hasn't got the army to do it with.
"Face it folks, George W. Bush shouldn’t have to be cleaning up a mess that “Jimmah†Carter created in the first place."
LOL... Now you're really getting desperate. Sorry, kid, but Bush is stuck with this war. No amount of silly comments like these will persuade the American people that it's Jimmy's fault. They know who wanted this war and who pushed for this war and who owns this war.
"Until you people realize that it’s either us or them, you are on the losing end. And you know what? Your’s first on the Muslim hit list. As for me and my house, we are locked and loaded."
Really? In my house, the windows are open and I'm enjoying the pleasant breeze. And I'll go to work tomorrow without even a single thought about "us or them." Because the simple reality is that I'm in far more danger on my commute to and from work than I ever was, or ever will be, from a terrorist attack.
July 17th, 2007 at 9:59 pmComment by Paul — July 17, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
agreed
July 17th, 2007 at 10:00 pmFace it folks, George W. Bush shouldn’t have to be cleaning up a mess that “Jimmah†Carter created in the first place. If Carter had half the resolve and steadfast determination (Read: Balls) that President Bush has, we wouldn’t have to be fighting Muslin extremists right now. Let’s hope Bush takes out a few thousand more of those b*stards on his way out of the White House.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
How does one begin to explain what a total IDIOT you are??
July 17th, 2007 at 10:00 pmAs for me and my house, we are locked and loaded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Cool, we'll leave you alone, come hell or high water.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:02 pmHope the beer holds out, so's you can stay loaded.
Bigfoot got bush balls on his brain.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:02 pm"How does one begin to explain what a total IDIOT you are??"
You really can't, of course, and I shouldn't have tried. My apologies. I really do know better, but sometimes the troll post is just so hilariously silly that you cannot help yourself.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:02 pmI'm liking the Senator from Louisiana.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pmComment by howzit — July 17, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
maybe on his chin as well
July 17th, 2007 at 10:05 pmMan this is a joke and your party is a joke. Nothing will happen. You guys are so naive. These people are wasting their rest time. Hippies, come off the pot and support Iraqis and the troops. I will continue to pray for your party.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:05 pmI really do know better, but sometimes the troll post is just so hilariously silly that you cannot help yourself.
Comment by PaulB
But try we must, PaulB, for the sake of our own sanity. Of course, it's also just as effective simply get them by the scruffs of their greasy necks and rub their noses in it, so to speak, and very entertaining, too!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI will continue to pray for your party.
Comment by Daryll
And I, in turn, will continue to tell ya to: BUGGER off, ya tosser!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:07 pmWhen ever Bush is Getting ready to speak I always get this vision of Cousin Eddy..... SHITTERS FULL!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:07 pm"Yeah, but Bush’s balls are between his shoulders.
Comment by howzit — July 17, 2007 @ 9:57 pm"
Even if that were the case, at least he has a pair. That's more than I can say for most of you folks who suffer from "Bush Derangement Syndrome".
"Bush Derangement Syndrome-An irrational fear and hatred for our duly elected President, George W. Bush. Symptons include dour demeanor, lack of humour, glassy eyes, mumbling, and the constant repetition of the word "impeach". Also includes drooling at the thought of high crimes and misdemeanors, even when there is no actual evidence to back that thought up. Cure: Mental maturity beyond the approxiamate age of 15. Reading the words of the founders. Thinking with ones brain. Prognosis: Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Rudy Guliani, or multiples therof, in the White House in 2008."
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmLamar Alexander says his grandfather was a locomotive engineer who turned trains around and Bush could be the locomotive President who gets the US back on the tracks.
WTF?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmI have listened to alot of the plea speeches from your party. You guys have turned this war into a political issue. That is completely disgusting. Do you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmEverytime I read a TROLL note like Bigfoots, all I hear is the immortal lyrics of Piggy and Fear:
Let's have a war!
Sell the rights to the networks!
Let's have a war!
Let our wallets get fat like last time!
Let's have a war!
Give guns to the queers!
Let's have a war!
The enemy's within!
or as the DKs said,
Now that we have the nueteron bomb, it's quick and clean....
Whatever.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmLandrieu says the Senate is not a Hollywood set.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmThe Senator from LA is speaking about OBL and post #56 says it's a joke. Wow. I'm going to pray for that poster. Sad, missguided fool.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:08 pmPerhaps, but trolls never learn, even when their noses are rubbed in it. In this case, I do have one point I can defend: I really wanted to contrast the difference between how Mr. Bigfoot and I are choosing to live our lives.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:09 pmDaryll,
shove your prayers up in the same place where your whacko religious beliefs are. It would be as useful to you!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pm"I will continue to pray for your party."
Really? Why?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pmAs for me and my house, we are locked and loaded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 17, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
So what are you gonna do if they (all 10 of them) hit you with RPG's ? and throw 5$ rugs at your windows ? and (this is really bad) cut your cable during "talking Points) ? Them browned skinned diablos.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pm"Cure: Mental maturity beyond the approxiamate [sic] age of 15."
ROFL... Oh, the irony... Although I do have to question whether Mr. Bigfoot has actually reached said mental age yet.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:11 pmThanks! I work until 10:30 pm every night. Makes it a tad difficult to keep track of some things.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:11 pmActually, I think Bush's balls are between BIGFOOTS shoulders.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:11 pmAnd thats right where Bigfoot loves them.
Bigfoot gett'en busy....YUMMY!!!
and Bush could be the locomotive President who gets the US back on the tracks.
and Bush could be the loco president who puts the US flat on it's back.
(there, fixed it for ya, Lamar)
July 17th, 2007 at 10:12 pmLIEberman sucks!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:12 pmDid Lieberman just say "pepickerly"?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:13 pmLIEberman sucks!
Is that why his chin is withering into his gums?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:14 pmDo you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll
Yes, bring them home. They are not cannon fodder.
No, they don't want us there.
Yes, we're not doing that in Iraq.
Be gone, wanker.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:14 pmPoor Joe. al caca 1, we must have 60 votes to get a simple majority of 50. it is so important to him that his vote counts for something other than little joe.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:14 pmsad fellow with nothing left to say. This should get his state to recall him.
Not only that Zooey, but he could suck the life out of the entire room. Can you imagine sitting down to dinner with this guy.
You don't need to have 60 votes before you vote Joe. What an ass.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:16 pm"You guys have turned this war into a political issue."
Strange, that's precisely what the Republican Party did in 2002 and 2004, and tried to do in 2006. And now you're disgusted?! Where have you been?
"Do you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?"
Sure. Do you? If so, then why are you supporting someone so manifestly incapable of doing these things?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:16 pmLie Berman ....... putting in a word or two for Israel with his ever-worsening drinker's complexion..hiccup
July 17th, 2007 at 10:17 pmI did some more reading, and here's a couple more symptoms of "Bush Derangement Syndrom" for ya':
"Screeching like Hillary Clinton, or Profane screeching like Rosie O'Donnell."
I think we've seen a few examples of that right here in this thread!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:17 pmSome Love
July 17th, 2007 at 10:17 pmhttp://web.mac.com/ryskind/iWeb/Site/The%20Ryskind%20Sketchbook.htm
I have listened to alot of the plea speeches from your party. You guys have turned this war into a political issue. That is completely disgusting. Do you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone - Jesus H Christ
July 17th, 2007 at 10:18 pmWe have anti-war protests in Vermont all the time. I guess, in order to get Leahy to come there has to be national TV there.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:18 pmDo you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
Daryll, what a thoughtfull and considered post. You deserve an intelligent and respectfull response. Your I.Q must be beyond even Mensa standards.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:18 pmGo $uck yourself.
Poor Joe....." DAHHH----- NO-----ONE------ WANTS----- TA -----PLAY ---- WIT -----M-E-E-E.....
July 17th, 2007 at 10:19 pmAttack Iran,Attack Iran...uhmmmm...Why are we all here again?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:19 pm"Death to America!" - Senator Joe Lieberman
(someone needs to make a youtube video totally taking that out of context)
July 17th, 2007 at 10:20 pmDo you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
Do you truly care for our troops, killing more Iraqis, generating more terrorism?
There - fixed it for you.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:21 pmYou guys have turned this war into a political issue. That is completely disgusting. Do you truly care for our troops, liberating the Iraqis, preventing terrorism?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
We "turned" this war into a political issue?
It was a political issue on April 19, 2003.
No, earlier. It was a political issue in the fall of 2002.
It's a political war. It has always been a political war. It's not just American politics - it involves Israeli politics, Irani politics, Turkish politics, Lebanese politics, Saudi politics, Syrian politics, and even Iraqi politics. Everybody's got a piece.
This war is nothing but politics, and it's never been anything but politics.
So don't lecture us about "turning it into" a political war. Please.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:22 pmScreeeeeeeching, like Screeeeeecher Pelosi!
Comment by Mr. President
Oh, you know that doesn't make any sense. Nancy doesn't screech like you do. Funny, she's a woman, and you're ostensibly a man, yet she seems to have a bigger pair than...
Oh, BTW, about that comment you made the other day... still trying to tell people the Sauids aren't Moslems?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:23 pm@ #9:
Done. everybody send a letter to your Congresscritters.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:24 pmLieberman speaks,zzzzzz,wheel out the cots, pronto.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:24 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:24 pmGoal.... G-O-A-L.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:25 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
Comment by Daryll
Hey Daryll, I didn't know you were Iraqi. What do you mean WE?
We all question your sanity -- everyday -- and your humanity.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:26 pm#51 LOL You hit the nail on the head! This guy's out of it!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:26 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
And we must continue to fight to keep him from coming back.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:26 pmLIEberman is like a direct feed from Cheney's brain. He is using every single Repug talking point I have read. He has no shame.
Despite the fact that his statements are unproven and based on faith (who still has that in this POTUS?), he still tells little anecdotes and compliments to the right to sound reasonable. What a Fraqin tool!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:27 pm"So what are you gonna do if they (all 10 of them) hit you with RPG’s ? and throw 5$ rugs at your windows ? and (this is really bad) cut your cable during “talking Points) ? Them browned skinned diablos.
Comment by Joefriday — July 17, 2007 @ 10:10 pm"
Hell, don't worry about it, Joefriday. Acording to you, the terrorists don't exist anyways. All those reports of terrorist attacks worldwide are just made up stories to control us here in the U.S., right?
The only reason you don't have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11. You'd better accept that, or you're still going to be staying up late, uselessly posting "Impeach Bush" over and over until all hours of the morn.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:27 pmIraq can't be a defeat if there is really no possible way to gain a victory
July 17th, 2007 at 10:28 pmLieberman speaks,zzzzzz,wheel out the cots, pronto.
Comment by Mike — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Disrespectful. We listened to the Democratic Senators. This is what Senator Lieberman is talking about. Your party is making this war a partisan issue. Stop it! Think about are citizens, Iraqi citizens and the troops. Your comment has proven that you have turned the war into a partisan issue. Try to show some respect and patriotism.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:28 pmHey daryll, saddam was CONTAINED & ZERO THREAT... but you knew that honey.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:28 pm“Embarrass the presidentâ€
This is the sick reason/excuse the 109th RubberStampers gave when they ended the more than 40 some-odd years of the yearly Veteran groups meeting with Congress. Because it might embarrass the President.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:28 pmBecause the VA the way it was/is being run is an embarrasment.
Poor Joe Blow is ending up his speech by talking about biting.
Give Joe lithium, he is one sad, miserable, disaster, prophet.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmThe only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.
Vacation?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmThe bogeyman may be coming tonight.
So I'm going to Sweden and kill everybody.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmWhat Jump party Joe should do then is vote against the bill. Bring it up and vote on it. All of the republicans are scared that they would have to put a vote out against bringin troops home.
I wonder if any of the trolls here even read the latest Reed/Levin Amendment.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmjew lie-berman needs to be in a straight jacket.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmI say cut off their peaches and see what happenes
July 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pmComment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
If that is your only justification for invading Iraq then it is your own sanity that is in question.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pmDarryl,
July 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pmcareful what you pray for.
pray that when this is over they don't have a bigger monster in charge.
The only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.
Read my mail?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Saddam was a bad guy - I grant you that. But there are a lot of bad guys running a lot of countries out there. I'd love to see Robert Mugabe or Idriss Deby or Omar al-Bashir or Hosni Mubarak or the Burmese military junta go down. But unilateral invasion is not the answer to these leaders any more than it was in Iraq.
And "regime change" involves more than just removing a leader. You also have to replace the leader with something competent. The only thing worse than a horrible dictator is a power vacuum.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmAnd we must continue to fight to keep him from coming back.
Comment by Egreggious
**snort**
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmDems, you have to agree with Senator Liemberman (I,D). We are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
And we must continue to fight to keep him from coming back.
Comment by Egreggious — July 17, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
Another partisan comment. We must continue to fight to bring liberation to Iraq and to prevent terrorism from occuring on our soil. That should be the common goal. Why is this silly amendment being considered anyway?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmThe only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.
Save New Orleans?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:31 pmSTFU, Joe.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pm"Your party is making this war a partisan issue."
Er...public support for the war is pretty steady at 27%, while disapproval of how Bush has run it is around 67%. Opposition to the war is not partisan; it's pretty well widespread.
Why do Republicans insist upon making the Iraq occupation a partisan issue, instead of serving the best interests of the American people, Daryll?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pmThe only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.
Tried to push Social Security reform?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pmI made a partisan comment. I must be drunk again.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:33 pmEVERYONE NEEDS TO WRITE THE TROOPS AND LET THEM KNOW EXACTLY WHICH OF THESE OBSTRUCTIONISTS ARE SO IF THEY MAKE IT BACK ALIVE, THEY CAN TAKE THEIR POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER OUT ON.... AND TROOPS FEEL FREE TO GET IT ALL OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:33 pmHey daryll, saddam was CONTAINED & ZERO THREAT… but you knew that honey.
Comment by Fan_of_Man — July 17, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
But he was a radical leader. Anything could have happened with him still in power. We are better off without him. Thank you Jesus!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:33 pmOsama bin Laden has been dead for 5 years.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:34 pmThis comment is so full of lies, distortions and rank idiocy, I don't even know where to start.
okay, here:
Hey, dickface - Iraq had nbothing to do with 9-11, and certainly didn't have plans or the wherewithal to attack us. Where do you come up with all of this "kill them all" venom? You need a big ol' Democratic hug.
Then, there's this wingnuttery:
"We people" are Americans. Us or them? Where did you ever even see one of "them"? You sound like you're ready to wet your freekin' pants. Just stay locked in your house and for god's sake keep your paranoia under control - you wouldn't want to hurt the wife and kids (as if you haven't already). we'll come and tell you when "it's" over.
God, you are one stupid piece of shit.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:34 pmAnother partisan comment. We must continue to fight to bring liberation to Iraq and to prevent terrorism from occuring on our soil. That should be the common goal. Why is this silly amendment being considered anyway?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Liberation?
Please find me the dictionary that defines "liberation" as "starting a civil war that threatens to destabilize an entire region."
July 17th, 2007 at 10:34 pmYes thank you Jesus for delivering us from a radical leader. No radical leaders here.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmWe live in a representative democracy, but no one is representing us. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmBut he was a radical leader. Anything could have happened with him still in power. We are better off without him. Thank you Jesus!
Comment by Daryll
Jesus doesn't hang people, idiot.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pm"I don't think there's a person in this room that doesn't believe Mr. Petraeus will tell the truth about what he believes is going on." - Sen. Lieberman
Well, yes, I'm sure Petraeus believes he's succeeding. He was cherry picked for his optimism after Bush fired all the other generals that showed a smidgeon of doubt in his heroic grand plan. Oh god, no he's saying that it's World War 3 just because Osama Bin Ladin says its World War 3. What a trustworthy source, Joe! You and Osama are like peas in a pod.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmare these quotes from the fake Bin Ladin tape?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmWOW! Daryll is really out there. Like, in a high orbit around...... Pluto?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmyeah daryll, radical BUT CONTAINED & ZERO THREAT.... try again sweetie
July 17th, 2007 at 10:36 pmI simply cannot believe the bloviation going on right now from Joe Lieberman. Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick, is this guy ever a WINDBAG.
Not just a windbag . . . a windbag who's DEAD WRONG!!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:36 pmwe’ll come and tell you when “it’s†over.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — July 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
That part's not true, is it? :D
July 17th, 2007 at 10:36 pmDarryl,
careful what you pray for.
pray that when this is over they don’t have a bigger monster in charge.
Comment by scscomp — July 17, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
We have set the right person in place to lead Iraq (PM Maliki).
July 17th, 2007 at 10:37 pm"Hell, don’t worry about it, Joefriday. Acording to you, the terrorists don’t exist anyways. All those reports of terrorist attacks worldwide are just made up stories to control us here in the U.S., right?"
LOL... Nice strawman, dear heart. Are you really so pathetic that you can't deal with we're actually saying, so you just have to make stuff up?
"The only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11."
ROFLMAO... Let's see ... Al Qaida regrouping, Pakistan and Afghanistan crumbling, Iraq a fricking disaster, a new al Qaida wing in Iraq that wasn't there before, Iraqis agreeing that it's okay to kill American soldiers, worldwide incidents of terror up each year since your hero began this "global war on terror." And I should be grateful, why, exactly?
"You’d better accept that"
Nah, I never have had much luck "accepting" total fantasy.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:37 pmPlease do not feed Daryll and Bigfoot. My scroll button is sticky.
Dudes, we know... you support the war, the troops, the president.... Death to Al queda, Death to Sadam, Death to the rag heads, Death to the enemies of America, peace and liberty.... YadaYadaYada.
We know your votes, we want to have the Senate votes on record.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:37 pmdaryll, you are making this too easy.... i see you are a glutton for punishment.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:38 pmLieberman is a flat our LIAR. He and Bush constantly try to connect Saddam Hussein and bib Laden! They have NOTHING to do with each other. The only reason Al Quaeda is even IN Iraq is because WE are there occupying their country. Bad enough he took the focus off our REAL enemy of 9/11 and decided to go expel Hussein from Iraq, no connection WHATSOEVER with 9/11, so he kills him and we are Still there. Even by his own warped logic, we should have been out of there and reduced to peace keeping troops immediately after their election. They keep lying and lying and people believe their lies, they believe the Prez when he proclaims the "same people in Iraq are the ones that attacked us on 9/11" there is not ONE shred of truth to it. Now we have depleted our troops and increased the threat to the USA dramatically with this idiotic occupation.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:38 pmThese LIARS all belong in prison.
Nice logic Joe - if we leave, both Iran AND al-Qa'ida win! Two enemies of each other - they both win!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:38 pm"Anything could have happened with him still in power."
Nope, because he lacked the power to do "anything."
July 17th, 2007 at 10:38 pmTry to show some respect and patriotism.
Comment by Daryll
When did you serve Bud?
Who the f*ck are you to question anyone elses patriotism?
Let me explain this to you: Blind unquestioning obedience to people who promote purely corporate and fascist agendas is not the definition of patriotism.
Supporting the Constitution which was created and defended by the blood of brave men and women throughout the History Of this Country is Patriotism.
Fighting to defend that same Constitution is Patriotism.
Supporting people who have ripped that Constitution ( Ehich GWB lovingly refers to as that goddammed piece of paper )to shreads is NOT THE DEFINITION OF PATRIOTISM!!!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmWe have set the right person in place to lead Iraq (PM Maliki).
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
Praise Jesus for Maliki!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmWe have set the right person in place to lead Iraq (PM Maliki).
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
We set him in place? I thought we were bringing democracy to Iraq. You mean alll those people got purple fingers for nothing??
July 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmand now for the Israeli point of view ...Israel Joe? take it away
July 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmany guesses on how many "highlights" we'll see from the republicans by major media outlets vs. the amount we'll see by democratics?
i'm guessing 4 to 1.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmFace it folks, George W. Bush shouldn’t have to be cleaning up a mess that “Jimmah†Carter created in the first place. If Carter had half the resolve and steadfast determination (Read: Balls) that President Bush has, we wouldn’t have to be fighting Muslin extremists right now.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 17, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
A little history lesson may be in order. Reagan/Bush are responsible, they had a deal with Iran.
Read a book!
Joe Lieberman you lying sack of excrement. Al Qaeda in Iraq. We can't leave Iraq because of Al Qaeda. So that NIE he's quoting is clear evidence that their policies have failed to do anything but embolden and recruit for Al Qaeda.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmYour party is making this war a partisan issue.â€
Er…public support for the war is pretty steady at 27%, while disapproval of how Bush has run it is around 67%. Opposition to the war is not partisan; it’s pretty well widespread.
Why do Republicans insist upon making the Iraq occupation a partisan issue, instead of serving the best interests of the American people, Daryll?
Comment by Cynicor — July 17, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
Do not ask ignorant questions. You know that the Republicans did not make this war a partisan issue. We are looking out for the world, in general. It's your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08'. Democrats=exploitation.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmWe have set the right person in place to lead Iraq (PM Maliki).
Comment by Daryll
Again with the "WE."
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmWe should let them fight us here. Please, please, let them invade Texas.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pm"...I question your sanity."
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
And I question yours every time you post. I don't "have to agree with" that sagging sack of shite. Or with you: "...we are all better off without Saddam." Who's "we...all"? You? What was Saddam doing to you? The Iraqis? Yeah, I'll be that the ones left alive after what this administration has done to them will be real thankful that we destroyed their country. Try to think about what you're saying, maybe you'll realize just how nonsensical it sounds. Do they serve the koolaid at whatever church it is you hang out in?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:41 pmOk, if Lieberman goes for much longer I'm going to surrender...he's so toughlaugh, chuckle
July 17th, 2007 at 10:41 pmDo not ask ignorant questions. You know that the Republicans did not make this war a partisan issue. We are looking out for the world, in general. It’s your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08′. Democrats=exploitation.
Comment by Daryll
Leave it to you to buy into White Man's Burden. Oh the irony....
July 17th, 2007 at 10:41 pm"You know that the Republicans did not make this war a partisan issue."
To the contrary, we know that they did, and they freely admitted it.
"We are looking out for the world, in general."
Really? Who is this "we" you speak of? And does "the world" want to be looked out for?
"It’s your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08′."
Turnabout is fair play, dear. Of course, if Bush hadn't mucked things up so badly, the Democrats wouldn't be doing as well as they are now and will do in 2008. Praise Jesus!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:42 pmWhy is our military staying in Iraq central to the "War on Terror"? I want real answers and not the "get'em there so we don't fight them here" crap. What does the logistical expenditure of the mightiest military in the history of the world have to be in Iraq to achieve any goal of defeating AQ? Terrorist attacks in Iraq have gone thru the roof since we arrived there but yet the brain dead still say we are safer.
Nowhere has Bush, Alexander, Lieberman, Frist or any other of the right stated how they will pay for any of this (throws the fiscal responsibility tag of the republicans out the window).
The military is stretched more now than at any time in recent history and no plan to resupply, or rest, or provide the proper care for the soldiers and marines.
Nowhere does any democrat talk about wanting to "cut and run".
Vote for Cloture(sp?), allow the bill to come to the floor. Let the President veto the bill. Show some balls. You too, Senator Dole.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:43 pmIt's amazing. He has used every talking point since 2002!
If he uses 'defeatacrats" it will be a perfect 10!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:43 pmBut he was a radical leader. Anything could have happened with him still in power. We are better off without him. Thank you Jesus!
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Yes, George W. Bush was a radical leader. Anything and everything did happen while he was still in power. We are absolutely better off without him. Thank y...
What?
We haven't yet?
What do you mean, "off the table"?
What more will it take???
WAKE UP, AMERICA!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:43 pmDaryll has now convinced me. God placed George W. Bush on the throne so that he could discredit the Republican Party and drive them from power once and for all. Praise the Lord! Can I hear an amen?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:44 pmNowhere has Bush, Alexander, Lieberman, Frist or any other of the right stated how they will pay for any of this (throws the fiscal responsibility tag of the republicans out the window).
Comment by hellinabucket — July 17, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
We borrow it from China. They get it from Wal*Mart customers. Simple!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmThank you Jesus!
Comment by Daryll
Just run, Forrest.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmHow many times has israel-Joe mentioned Iran?
50-60?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmAnother partisan comment. We must continue to fight to bring liberation to Iraq and to prevent terrorism from occuring on our soil. That should be the common goal. Why is this silly amendment being considered anyway?
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Liberation?
Please find me the dictionary that defines “liberation†as “starting a civil war that threatens to destabilize an entire region.â€
Comment by toasterhead — July 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
We did not start a civil war. These are tribes that have been fighting for control for years. We are in Iraq to end the civil war, restore peace, deter citizens from joining terrorist organizations and to completely shut down Al Queda.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmWhat did Jump Party Joe say about sleeping?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmLandSurveyor: Turn off Rush Limbaugh, and move toward the light.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmPaulB, my god that was great.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmIRAN HAS BEEN AID AND COMFORT TO THE BEE PEOPLE!!!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:46 pmAMEN
July 17th, 2007 at 10:46 pmThe stuntsman is Mitch McConnell. He's filibustering. It's his filibuster. I see it as a stunt, too, that the same idiots. like him and Bunning, who conspired to start the idiotic war, should now get a vote to continue it. The electorate in Kentucky should look for new Senators not so ready to waste their blood!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:46 pmWhat did Jump Party Joe say about sleeping?
Comment by hellinabucket — July 17, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
I don't know. I nodded off.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:47 pmWe are looking out for the world, in general. It’s your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08′. Democrats=exploitation.
Comment by Daryll — July 17, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Ah yes, For we are the Cops of the World
You sir are part of the ignorant masses these people need to actualize their plans.
Here's what the neo cons think:
"Secular society in their view is the worst possible thing," because it leads to individualism, liberalism, and relativism, precisely those traits that might encourage dissent, which in turn could dangerously weaken society's ability to cope with external threats. "You want a crowd that you can manipulate like putty," according to Drury.
That's all you are to them. Putty. Useful idiots, like Lieberman. That is why we mock your posts, because they are using you precisely because you are uneducated and rabid. Like they consider you to beone of them.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:47 pmThey are the elite, we are their pawns; unless we choose not to be.
What's your choice?
Do not ask ignorant questions. You know that the Republicans did not make this war a partisan issue. We are looking out for the world, in general. It’s your party that has turned the war into a partisan issue so you can win more seats in 08′. Democrats=exploitation.
Yes, Republicans are doing what's best for the ignorant masses, while Democrats are very sleazily doing what the stupid people of the United States actually want. THIS IS A DEMOCRACY. The government SHOULD be doing what the people want. Sure, if the Democrats get more votes out of that, they'll be happy. But it's the whole point of democracy to do what your constituents want. It's a government of the people, by the people and for the people. If you don't want the government to do what the people want, if you want your government to ignore the people and just do what the government has decided is "best for the people," then maybe you should go move to Saudi Arabia, or China or North Korea, or maybe you should go join the fascist party, but you don't belong in a democracy.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmThe chymp IS an embarassment to the nation.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmamen PaulB
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmWhat is the chance that any of these shmucks mention the primary reason we are in Iraq?, Oil.
ZERO
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmWe did not start a civil war. These are tribes that have been fighting for control for years. We are in Iraq to end the civil war, restore peace, deter citizens from joining terrorist organizations and to completely shut down Al Queda.
Comment by Daryll
I thought that Joe just said it's not a civil war? now I'm confused... go back over the talking points, Daryll.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmDaryll,
"We are in Iraq to end the civil war, restore peace, deter citizens from joining terrorist organizations and to completely shut down Al Queda."
There was no civil war before our presence.
There was no al Qaeda in Iraq before our presence. We are making these worse not better.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmComment by Wayne — July 17, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
Standing ovation, Wayne. Well done.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmMan, this dude can talk.... Yawn!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:49 pm"The only reason you don’t have to worry much about terrorism in 2007 is because of what George Dubya has done since 9/11.
Vacation?
Comment by funky p — July 17, 2007 @ 10:29 pm"
Nope. PATRIOT act, Terrorist Surveillance Program, Hitting Afghanistan, Hitting Iraq, Guantanamo, Detainee Camps, Waterboarding, etc. etc. etc.
I have no problem with all of it, and the stuff we don't even know about, if it keeps the United States safe.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:49 pmIsn't Senator Jim Bunning supposed to be, like, insane or something? I remember hearing stories during his last race where he was acting very bizarrely and making strange demands?
Also he once pitched a perfect game against the Mets. I hate him.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:50 pmApparently AEI is paying Joe by the hour.....
July 17th, 2007 at 10:50 pm"We are in Iraq to end the civil war, restore peace, deter citizens from joining terrorist organizations and to completely shut down Al Queda."
Really? That isn't what George W. Bush told me we were there for.
In any case, since we are wholly incapable of achieving these goals, that just begs the question of why we are in Iraq?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:51 pmMr. LIEberman Goes To Washington.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:51 pmThere is one of the major flaws. Joe spoke of the world, and more importantly AQ, would see us as running away.
Nowhere does it say to run away. It has become a political problem. Our military has become the very world's policmen that the republicans never wanted.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:52 pmYeah, he's taking a break.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:53 pm"Nope. PATRIOT act, Terrorist Surveillance Program, Hitting Afghanistan, Hitting Iraq, Guantanamo, Detainee Camps, Waterboarding, etc. etc. etc."
Since not one of these things has been shown to have any positive effect on our safety, and most have been shown to have negative effects (e.g., our failures in Afghanistan, our Iraq disaster, Guantanamo, detainee camps, waterboarding, Abu Ghraib), I'm afraid that you simply do not have a point.
"I have no problem with all of it, and the stuff we don’t even know about, if it keeps the United States safe."
Since it does not, I'm sure that we can now expect your vote for the Democratic Party in 2008.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:53 pmO. Big I'm not sure keeping ourselves all too preoccupied keeps us safe.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:53 pmI kinda like Sherrod Brown; maybe he'll mention oil?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:53 pmWe did not start a civil war. These are tribes that have been fighting for control for years. We are in Iraq to end the civil war, restore peace, deter citizens from joining terrorist organizations and to completely shut down Al Queda.
Comment by Daryll
We started the Iraq War because people believed the lies about WMDs
There were no WMDs, it was a lie.
The war in Afghanistan which we pulled our resources from, FOR A LIE, is where Al Qaeda is.
Are you really that stupid?
Iraq was started on false pretenses.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:54 pmWe need to pull out of Iraq and then finish the job of taking out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, then leave there too.
If Al Qaeda pops up again send Special Forces in to kill their asses again. That is what the Special Forces are for.
“We are in Iraq to end the civil war, restore peace, deter citizens from joining terrorist organizations and to completely shut down Al Queda.â€
So the WMDs crap was part of the bargain or not?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:54 pmJim Webb should have been on after Lieberwhore and smacked him one and also asked him why his kids aren't over in Iraq since he believes so much in his war?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:55 pmThis is what I just emailed to Speaker Pelosi:
http://speaker.gov/contact/
Dear Speaker Pelosi,
PLEASE, charge Harriet Miers with INHERENT Contempt, arrest her and have her brought before Congress, then force her to testify!
And, please Madam Speaker, if you have not watched the PBS interview on Bill Moyers Journal with Constitutional scholar Bruce Fein and John Nichols, author of THE GENIUS OF IMPEACHMENT, please watch it.
It can be viewed online here:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/profile.html
Bruce Fein argues how important it is that we impeach BOTH President Bush and VP Cheney BEFORE they leave office and gives the reasons according to the Constitution. Mr. Nichols also argues the importance as a CURE for this Constitutional crisis, not as a 'get even' act. Their arguments were very compelling, clear, factual, with the best interest of the country and the Constitution at heart, and they articulated clearly the urgency for this to take place NOW in order to protect the checks and balances of government - now and for future presidencies (Executive Branches). If you have not watch it I would BEG you to take the time to watch, listen and please change your mind about what NEEDS to be done now to protect our nation and our democracy.
There is a transcript available as well if you don't wish to watch the video. Mr. Fein, who wrote the Article of Impeachment against President Clinton and who is a staunch conservative, states strongly that you (Speaker Pelosi) are making a mistake and that he understands why you are hesitating, but that you MUST do this and do it before they leave office.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript2.html
Speaker Pelosi, please read the entire exchange and please reconsider the issue of Impeachment for the good of this country, for the security and integrity of the Constitution and for showing the American people that the Constitution still works. It will go a long way in restoring hope and trust in this country. It will also take away the danger of the precedent that is being set now by the over-reaching of power by this executive branch. This has to be checked and the balance of government restored. Please.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:55 pm"Joe spoke of the world, and more importantly AQ, would see us as running away."
Let me get this straight: we're supposed to stay in Iraq because AQ doesn't want us to? That's Lieberman's idea of a sane foreign policy? That's a kindergarten policy.
Free clue: AQ is already claiming victory in Iraq! No matter what we do, they will claim victory. So why don't we do the adult thing and not pay attention to what those idiots will claim but instead just do the right thing.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:56 pmWhen they come to waterboard you and your family, Bigfoot. I hope you remember your words. Go visit Dachau and Buchenwald, go talk to a survivor and then look me in the face.... not on a keyboard... that you support torture and unconstitutional detainement.
You are an aberration to humanity.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:56 pmI just saw something a little more exciting than this filibuster, the Tigers just took game one from the red hot Twins at the Met 1-0.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:56 pmuselessly posting “Impeach Bush†over and over until all hours of the morn.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 17, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
Hey $ick head. I have never posted there were no terra-wrists or to impeach Bush. I think he should be but, have never posted that. You're a typical moron bush lover who can't think for yourself. Try addressing the person that called you out for being a total $hit head for what they said and not what you wished they said. BTW, Bill O'Lielly is now a surrender monkey. Log onto his site and tell him off.
P.S, How do you lock and load bull$hit ?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:56 pmMitch, you ought to be happy! Your idiotic war in Iraq has trained tens of thousands of Iraquis to make bombs. Now, Senator, scream, " be afraid America!" You are the hapless self-fulfilling prophet of doom! Go home!
July 17th, 2007 at 10:56 pmI think Daryll was in a secret prison and is the product of re-education program run by the CIA. And is now a Orwellian otomaton skilled in the deadly art of double thinking. WATCH
Hey, Daryll? Would you be happy to give up some fo your liberties to keep your freedom?
July 17th, 2007 at 10:56 pmComment by O. Bigfoot — July 17, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
except fot that little Treason thing involving the exposure of a spy.
You are a complete idiot.
July 17th, 2007 at 10:58 pmSadly, I have seen this all before. Nothing new here.
Someone brought up being the world's policeman. The late great Phil Ochs wrote protest songs in the 60s (yes I am that old). One look at the lyrics will tell you not much has changed. You kids especially should check this out, because you have not lived through it.
Come, get out of the way, boys
July 17th, 2007 at 10:59 pmQuick, get out of the way
You'd better watch what you say, boys
Better watch what you say
We've rammed in your harbor and tied to your port
And our pistols are hungry and our tempers are short
So bring your daughters around to the port
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World
We pick and choose as please, boys
Pick and choose as please
You'd best get down on your knees, boys
Best get down on your knees
We're hairy and horny and ready to shack
And we don't care if you're yellow or black
Just take off your clothes and lay down on your back
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World
Our boots are needing a shine, boys
Boots are needing a shine
But our Coca-Cola is fine, boys
Coca-Cola is fine
We've got to protect all our citizens fair
So we'll send a battalion for everyone there
And maybe we'll leave in a couple of years
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World
And dump the reds in a pile, boys
Dump the reds in a pile
You'd better wipe off that smile, boys
Better wipe off that smile
We'll spit through the streets of the cities we wreck
And we'll find you a leader that you can't elect
Those treaties we signed were a pain in the neck
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World
And clean the johns with a rag, boys
Clean the johns with a rag
If you like you can use your flag, boys
If you like you can use your flag
We've got too much money we're looking for toys
And guns will be guns and boys will be boys
But we'll gladly pay for all we destroy
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World
Please stay off of the grass, boys
Please stay off of the grass
Here's a kick in the ass, boys
Here's a kick in the ass
We'll smash down your doors, we don't bother to knock
We've done it before, so why all the shock
We're the biggest and the toughest kids on the block
And we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World
And when we butchered your sons, boys
When we butchered your sons
Have a stick of our gum, boys
Have a stick of our bubble gum
We own half the world, oh say can you see
And the name for our profits is democracy
So, like it or not, you will have to be free
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World
I keep getting ready to respond to the rolls, but I have to force myself not to.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:00 pmComment by The Lone Voice of Reason — July 17, 2007 @ 10:56
We've got both C-Span and the Mets on. Oops, off to switch on of those to the Daily Show!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:00 pm"I have no problem with all of it, and the stuff we don’t even know about, if it keeps the United States safe."
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Safe?
In your own private Idaho?
With your (brief) lifetimes supply of ammo,
5,000 pounds of beef jerky
a 10,000 gallon water tank, and a wind up radio?
That kind of safe?
Yes, you are quite safe.
No one wants any of that sh!t anyways.
LOL
July 17th, 2007 at 11:00 pmComment by Wayne
Exactly. al Qaeda in Iraq is a new organization and except for the name, they are not very connected with Al Qaeda in Afgahnistan and Pakistan (which is growing stronger).
The Pentagon says that less than 5% of the attacks on US Soldiers are from al Qaeda in Iraq.
And remember the fact the our Special Forces were on the way to get the REAL leader of Al Qaeda, Zuwahari, and Rumsfeld called them back.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:00 pmWeird. We haven't been safe since January of 2001. If the worst disaster in US history doesn't even give you a hint, you'll never get it.
Hey, the Bears haven't lost a game since they lost the Super Bowl. You want to credit Bush with that, too?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:00 pmStanding ovation, Wayne. Well done.
Comment by Zooey
Thanks =)
July 17th, 2007 at 11:01 pmI am sick of these Republicans and trolls trying to change the definition of Patriotism to fit their narrow-minded agendas.
It is time we remind them what the real definition is every time they question ours.
Let them know that We have not forgotten.
Let them know that We have not forgotten.
Comment by Wayne
That moron m12 was saying the other night that patriotism is having a bg house, fast car, and lots of consumer goods. Insane!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:03 pmI sincerely hope that every person in Connecticut who voted for Joe Liarman is staying up all night to listen to his conflations of Al Qaeda, Bin Laden, Iraq, and Iran. What we really need in the world, while threatened with a global environmental crisis and continued terrorist threats here in the USA, is endless warfare, death, bombing, and $12 billion, $30 billion or whatever, to keep it going forever. Who is buying him off to keep this up?
The state of Connecticut should apologize to every American and if you all are making so damn much money on war profiteering, you need to refund some of these costs to the US treasury. Too bad mere money can’t help all the dead soldiers and Iraqis for this evil war. Many, many things could have and should have been done. But with Joe it’s always the military solutions. You can’t win an occupation. You can stay or go. If we stay forever, we will be the world villains and we are seriously outnumbered.
War with Iran is madness. Most Iranians want peace. But Bush and Cheney always side with the Saudis who are now shown to be causing half of the suicide bombing attacks on US soldiers in Iraq.
Joe Lieberman and his friends in the white house will never do what is right, what will work to limit terrorism. They will never listen to the American people. Impeachment is the only answer. It is the cure for this impasse. It is the only cure.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:03 pm"I keep getting ready to respond to the trolls, but I have to force myself not to."
Oh, hell, Marcus. Go for it. This isn't going to be a thread for deep thought or discussion. This is political theater and on this thread, of all of them, the rules regarding trolls can probably be abandoned, particularly when they're as hilariously silly as Darryl and Bigfoot. Even Mr. P has mostly given up, tacitly acknowledging that he can't keep up with them for sheer insanity (not to mention inanity).
July 17th, 2007 at 11:03 pmokay, I can't do it.
Partisan isssue? like 78 percent of us against 22 percent of you? Hardly. Didn't you just post some crap about continuing the war? How will this help Iraqis?
Man, just STFU.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:04 pmSince all I do is bash Bush, it is only fair that I tell you that Charles Rangel and Sander Levin reached an agreement with the Bush administration to include labor and enviromental protections in trade agreements with Peru and panama. Along with collective barganing, a ban on child labor and forced labor and discrimination. Now with that done I still oppose free trade with Columbia because of their strong arming and muder and human rights.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:04 pmWhy do the repubs hate our soldiers?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:06 pmYou lost it Marcus, as did I.
Unbelievable the power of trolls....
July 17th, 2007 at 11:06 pmRemoval? he was killed. what do you think Jesus would have done?
You don't know Jesus, and he doesn't know you.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:06 pmWhy does Mr. President beat his wife?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:07 pmWhy do the Reps hate democracy?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:07 pmWhy do you have to say stupid things like that? ALL Americans love America AND our soldiers. Right now the mentality is OUR team against YOUR team. It is so ridiulous. THen you have Bush who are on an entirely different team altogether. People just don't realize that yet, but they are waking up.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:08 pmYou don’t know Jesus, and he doesn’t know you.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
I saw Jesus at the Safeway, and he said he never heard of Daryll.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:08 pmThat moron m12 was saying the other night that patriotism is having a bg house, fast car, and lots of consumer goods. Insane!
Comment by Zooey
Totally insane
The idiot took the Chimpy's speech after 9/11 to "Go Shopping" to heart. And obviously a lot of morons did. =P
July 17th, 2007 at 11:09 pmThey don't Mr. President. You are just easily confused.
It's like I'm really talking to the President.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:09 pmI'm loving the irony of the Republican Party complaining about the "politicization" of the Iraq war. The unmitigated gall of that complaint, after using it as a club with which to hammer the Democratic Party for the past three elections!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:09 pmWhy does Mr. President beat his wife?
Comment by PaulB
He doesn't beat his wife because he doesn't have one. Do you really think a living, breathing woman would deal w/ this pile of sh*t? What he does beat is his ( fill in the blank )...
July 17th, 2007 at 11:09 pmShhhh! There is no "it"!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:09 pmWhy do you have to say stupid things like that?
Comment by JG
He's saving his brain for a rainy day -- but he lives on the Sahara desert.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:10 pmWhy do the repubs hate children?
Why do the repubs hate the poor?
Why do the repubs not want everyone to have access to medical care?
Why don't the repubs want our schools to be funded?
Why don't the repubs care about our environment?
I could THIS all night too..
July 17th, 2007 at 11:10 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!
good one, my POPStar(TM)!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:10 pmhow ya been?
actually, it was the Piggly Wiggly, Zooey.....
July 17th, 2007 at 11:10 pmJG I agree, it's just that getting our soliers killed for Iraqis, or oil, whatever your opinion is, makes me think they just love Iraqis or oil better. I wish I had a better explanation.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:11 pmWe are all better off without Saddam. If you cannot understand the removal of this filthy leader, I question your sanity.
Comment by Daryll
Daryll, what about the people who enabled and helped Saddam, Chemical Ali, his sons... should they have been put to death too?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:11 pmHa!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:11 pmWASHINGTON, July 17 — President Bush’s top counterterrorism advisers acknowledged Tuesday that the strategy for fighting Osama bin Laden’s leadership of Al Qaeda in Pakistan had failed. But Iraq, but Iran, but Clinton.
Heckuva job boy-King. Another failure!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:12 pmWhat in the hell does Aunt Esmerelda know about Iraq.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:12 pmI'm sorry, I know this is low, but Senator Collins sounds like a kindergarten teacher. I have the urge to suck my thumb and cuddle up to blankey.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:12 pmIt is because the elitists are making an ENORMOUS amount of money. E_N_O_R_M_O_U_S....
July 17th, 2007 at 11:12 pmBoys is up late I see!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:13 pmBest quote I found regarding all your "he hes"
"I was serious when I said I want to record the Senate's all-night session tonight just so you can show your grandkids who freed Al-Qaeda from the battlefield so they could slaughter Americans here at home."
July 17th, 2007 at 11:13 pmWhy do the repubs hate children?
Why do the repubs hate the poor?
Why do the repubs not want everyone to have access to medical care?
Why don’t the repubs want our schools to be funded?
Why don’t the repubs care about our environment?
dont forget:
July 17th, 2007 at 11:14 pmWhy do the repups hate our troops?
Why do th repubs not want to be the "Shining Star" they always talk about?
and..
Why is Joe LIEberman still allowed to caucus with the Democrats?
Wow Daryl, you sure are hung up on this Saddam guy.What, did he try to kill your dad too?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:14 pmHow are we better off without Saddam? I know that the Iraqis feared him but us? No. He was contained and would have been overthrown as we see now just how broken his country was.
Where are the republican bills to pay for this war?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:14 pmJG right you are my boy, you win.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:15 pm“I was serious when I said I want to record the Senate’s all-night session tonight just so you can show your grandkids who freed Al-Qaeda from the battlefield so they could slaughter Americans here at home.â€
Comment by Umbra — July 17, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
But I thought this was the BEE PEOPLE filibuster.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:16 pmOh, hello your 'honorable' President guy...
July 17th, 2007 at 11:16 pmhey Daryll, you should start a new splinter religious group: Killers for Jesus!
Your beliefs and statements are in direct opposition to the teachings of Jesus. When you finally meet Jesus, you're going to feel the whip.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:16 pmHonestly. Watch “War Made Easy - How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us To Deathâ€
http://www.warmadeeasythemovie.org/
I watched this and was blown away. They have used the same tired expressions, arguments, reasons and excuses over and over again - President after President. Very weird actually hearing them all say it, one President after another. They say what they need to in order to move forward their agenda and get the nation behind them. They all use the same dire warnings to make people afraid of what happens if they don't support the plan, or if they try to "pull out" and end the war. Blew my mind. I am done believing ANYTHING they put out there.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:16 pmwait, I thought Collins was on 'our side' now...?!?!?!?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:17 pmHey, whiteyfresh -- how's it hanging?! If Lieberman switches, and there are more tied votes, then CHENEY casts the deciding vote!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:17 pmI think it's shameful the way Mr. President is being treated in here, and it behooves us to show him the respect and courtesy he deserves. Hey you, over there on the left; pass him the bowl of pretzels, would you please?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:17 pmgood one, my POPStar(TM)!
how ya been?
Comment by whiteyfresh
This banana slug woman is putting me into a coma.
How ya doing?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:18 pmHow many times is Susan Collins going to say "Madame President?" I mean, polite ceremonial deference is one thing, but this ass-kissing is over the top.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:18 pmSince all I do is bash Bush, it is only fair that I tell you that Charles Rangel and Sander Levin reached an agreement with the Bush administration to include labor and enviromental protections in trade agreements with Peru and panama. Along with collective barganing, a ban on child labor and forced labor and discrimination.
Comment by The Lone Voice of Reason — July 17, 2007 @ 11:04 pm
I heard that the enforcement aspects of the bill are pretty weak, unless it's been revised.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:18 pmCome on JG, you can't be that naive. Are you serious that you are just getting this? It's called marketing.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:18 pmTypical Lefty Anti-American Leninism.
Comment by Mr. President
Typical irrational Anti-democracy Stalinist comment by PiPpy.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:18 pmactually, it was the Piggly Wiggly, Zooey…..
Comment by heyzeus
I hate the smell of that place.
HI HEYZEUS!!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:19 pmHey Zooey. It is on the way.
And for others, I am not a guy.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:19 pmBut, Mr. President, Dick IS a demon. How can you demonize a demon? A rose by any other name is still a rose, and Dick by any name is still an evil worthless f*cking demon. Like your mom, but with less hair on her chest.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:20 pmI would hate to be stuck in an elevator with Senators Collins and Lieberman. Their voices could crush your soul.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:20 pmTypical Lefty Anti-American Leninism.
Comment by Mr. President
How dare you call anyone else Anti-American, you Chimpanzee supporting, Anti-Constitution fascist chickenhawk coward.
How many dead Soldiers and live Veterans have you smeared today for YOUR Anti-American fascist agenda?
You are one of the sickest trolls I have ever seen.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:20 pmheh
July 17th, 2007 at 11:21 pm#262 Unlike you, that would be Mom.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:21 pm#
Question: Who do Lefties love most:
a) Saddam
b) Stalin
????
The answer may shock you…
No, the CIA might shock you, then bag you, then drag you to an undisclosed location.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:21 pmcaptjashook, I already didn't trust anything these guys have put out since day one, I just didn't remember the same reasons, LANGUAGE, rationales, etc.. being used in the past by other Presidents. They used a lot of old footage in this film and lined them all up. Impressive. It put it all in perspective. This current Pres. is not even original in his need to scare America in order to manipulate them. It was bizarre.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:22 pmTypical Lefty Anti-American Leninism.
Comment by Mr. President — July 17, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
But, but, but--I thought we were all Stalinist.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:23 pmHow dare you call anyone else Anti-American, you Chimpanzee supporting, Anti-Constitution fascist chickenhawk coward.
How many dead Soldiers and live Veterans have you smeared today for YOUR Anti-American fascist agenda?
You are one of the sickest trolls I have ever seen.
Comment by Wayne
Hmmmmmm? How do I feel about that comment?
Damn right, Wayne. Tell that coward to f--- off!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:24 pm#262 - that would be my husband.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:24 pmWhat a false question.
Who do Repubs love most: Prostitutes or little boys?
But, but, but–I thought we were all Stalinist.
Comment by Joefriday
Speak for yourself, sir! I am an avowed Trotskyite!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:25 pmComment by Wayne — July 17, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
Nice.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:26 pmWho do Repubs love most: Prostitutes or little boys?
Comment by JG
Waaaay too easy, JG. Repubs only go to prosties if they can't find little boys.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:26 pmComment by JG,
Sorry, I was being a bit smug. I have been performing Shakespeare for 25 years. This had been going on since the day humanity handed its power, rights and responsibilities to individual leaders.
The problem is that sometimes those leaders are telling the truth. That is why we need to invest every single penny we have in to educating our children... our future.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:26 pmAnswer:
LEFTIES LOVE STALIN AND SADDAM!!!
IT’S A TIE!!!
Wow, Mr. President. That punchline ranks somewhere in between "To get to the other side" and "Orange you glad I didn't say 'banana?'" in the pantheon of punchlines.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:26 pmWho do Repubs love most: Prostitutes or little boys?
Comment by JG
Depends on whether they are high on pain killers or crystal meth.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:27 pmBite me Pelosi. This certainly isn't your fight...coward.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:27 pmHey Zooey. It is on the way.
And for others, I am not a guy.
Comment by JG
Thanks, JG!
Yeah guys, JG is NOT a dude. She's a classy lady!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:27 pmBoth, it's a tie.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:27 pm"Face it folks, George W. Bush shouldn’t have to be cleaning up a mess that “Jimmah†Carter created in the first place. If Carter had half the resolve and steadfast determination (Read: Balls) that President Bush has, we wouldn’t have to be fighting Muslin extremists right now.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 17, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
A little history lesson may be in order. Reagan/Bush are responsible, they had a deal with Iran.
Read a book!
Comment by funky p — July 17, 2007 @ 10:40 pm"
I don't have to read a book, jackass, I was there. I watched Carter fumbling around looking for an answer after telling us that we didn't need a military anymore. I watched him send in an abortive "secret" rescue attempt when we should have been sending in wave after wave of bombers, decimating city after city until the Ayatollah Khomeini ordered the release of our hostages. If Khomeini refused, there should have been no more Iran. If 10th century dictators want to take on the big boys, we should respond accordingly. The only thing second-rate military dictatorships understand is a stronger military, period. Any wavering, and respect is lost.
Reagan didn't need to make a deal with Khomeini, Khomeini knew that Reagan's first telephone call after he was sworn in was going to be made on the "red" phone, and Khomeini and Iran were going to be the main topic.
Radical Muslims gained strength while Bill Clinton was smoking a "J" and getting head in the oval office, and wasn't paying attention to anything but novel uses for a cigar and the latest poll numbers. If Clinton should be remembered for anything, it should be for that simple truth. Hillary supporters beware: If she is elected, we will have more of the same.
President Bush has done nothing but what he said he was going to do after 9/11: Fight the terrorists. I sleep better at night knowing Bush is in power, and the terrorists are fighting in their own sandbox rather than in our backyards. For that, I am grateful. For that reason, and that reason alone, I would vote for George W. Bush again.
As for you Bushhaters, there's no excuse for you. You are the traitors, you are the defeatists, you are the ones who will accept a few thousand U.S. casualties as long as they are a long ways from your house. You are the ones who feel our President and our government is a bigger enemy than the real enemy who has killed thousands of our fellow countrymen and women on our own soil.
I will not accept the thousands of Americans dead, I will not accept defeat, I want the muslim terrorists dead, wherever around the world they are. That is why I support President Bush in this effort. I personally don't care if I am in the 26 percent, because I am with the 26 percent who are correct. (As if that 26 percent figure had any basis in fact, which it does not.) The survival of the United States is not a popularity contest that can be subject to mere poll numbers, it is the right of our country to exist and be secure. If you cannot handle that kind of resolve, it's too bad for you. I guess you should have been raised on more "Die Hard", and less "Barney".
July 17th, 2007 at 11:27 pmMr. President, like the other fake President, is a right wing Christian loser. He grew up beating his meat to images of his mother and has always felt guilty. He is looking for absolution in the father image of Boy George.
He worships Bush, Bush is his God and his Saviour.
Guess what Mr. Pissflap, Bush is not going to let you blow him after a bike ride like you dream. He hates you like he hates America.
And he hates America a lot.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:28 pmLOL, Mr President.
that was the lamest post I have ever suffered through.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:28 pmYou are one of the sickest trolls I have ever seen.
Comment by Wayne — July 17, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
Lookout!! Wayne's on fire tonight!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:28 pm“Orange you glad I didn’t say ‘banana?’"
Comment by Trevor — July 17, 2007 @ 11:26 pm
That reminds me. Is Susan Collins done yet?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:28 pmComment by captjashook
Shakespeare? did you say you are a Shakespearian Actor? cool. Where?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:29 pmI honestly just thought that Menendez was going to say, "It's time to stop filibustering... and start getting real." MTV has rotted my brain.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:29 pmLOL... Loved the latest Bigfoot comment. It's rare to find someone whose head is so far planted up his ass. Sorry, Bigfoot, honey, but you're going to have to "accept" a lot of things you don't want to accept in the months ahead. You might as well get used to is.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:29 pmLOL… Loved the latest Bigfoot comment. It’s rare to find someone whose head is so far planted up his ass.
Right, you have to wonder how they see the screen in order to type..
July 17th, 2007 at 11:31 pm"If Lieberman switches, and there are more tied votes, then CHENEY casts the deciding vote!!!"
Jakey-poo, it isn't going to come to that. This is just theater. The Democrats will still need 60 votes and they don't have them. They're just making sure that the American public knows just who is blocking this vote.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:31 pmJG-um-K.
Doing fine lady Z, Any better and I'd have to be twins.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:32 pm\
what do you think of all this going on?
(SENATE)
And only two tits - not six or eight.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:32 pmI emailed my Senators:
July 17th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Proud to be in Portland on the Left Coast!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:33 pmRepublicans want death, war, and the end of America. Period. Why do they continue to support these failed and misguided policies? Any person in this country who still supports their agenda is delusional or evil or both. End this crap. Impeach the whole lot. We may not be able to convict in the Senate what with McConnell and Lieberman dead set against doing the will of the people, but they will be shown up for their true natures. And all of you paid trolls here can report to the boss that I said so. Go away.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:34 pmMr. Biggie Ofoot forgets Mr. Cheney and GW dad's push to decrease the military. He forgets Mr. Rumsfeld's folly in pushing a thin military with a thinner playbook for after defeating a 3rd world army.
Oh mr. foot don't fool yourself into thinking anyone here doesn't support the troops. You don't listen if you believe that.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:34 pmBnF: Hello my intellelectual juggernaut friend.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:35 pm:)
Hey, Senator Menendez has some serious rhetorical skills. Volume and pitch modulation. Variation in sentence length. He's good.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:35 pmYeah for Oregon. I am down by Salem.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:35 pmProud to be in Portland on the Left Coast!
Comment by captjashook
Where you at? Neighborhood?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:36 pmBut, but, but–I thought we were all Stalinist.
Comment by Joefriday
Speak for yourself, sir! I am an avowed Trotskyite!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
What do I know?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:36 pmI'm just the Wild Man in the Hallow, with a squirrel gun. =)
Doing fine lady Z, Any better and I’d have to be twins.
what do you think of all this going on?
(SENATE)
Comment by whiteyfresh
Fantastic, whitey. Good for you!
I'm loving this thing. I've been watching all day, in between life stuff. What about you? Whatcha think?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:36 pm"don’t listen if you believe that."
Of course he doesn't listen, which is why he hasn't bothered to respond to the responses to his earlier post. He's just regurgitating crap he's heard on Limbaugh and Fox, without even bothering to think about whether any of it even remotely makes sense.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:37 pmHey, Senator Menendez has some serious rhetorical skills. Volume and pitch modulation. Variation in sentence length. He’s good.
Comment by captjashook — July 17, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
And iambic pentameter.
[I only said that because it scares off the trolls.]
July 17th, 2007 at 11:37 pmI was watching CNN earlier and was blown away listening to Michael Ware. He all but called Bush a liar. It was priceless. It totally blew away Bush's version of what is happening in Iraq.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:37 pmMe in NE Portland!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:38 pmO. Bigfoot? We have a new moron?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:38 pmNortheast edge of Irvington.
Glad to see my fellow Cascadians in action.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:38 pmJust called all 8 wavering senators
6 of 8 had full voicemail boxes!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:39 pmFor that reason, and that reason alone, I would vote for George W. Bush again.â€
God Bless the USA!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Unfortunately, you can't. Astonishing how flimsy your grasp of the basics is. But then, awareness of that on our part makes it easier to understand the utter inanity of so much of what you post.
Vote for Bru$ch again? Please do.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:39 pmCan't you just hear the emotion throbbing in Bigfoot's voice as he intones his rant, with "American the Beautiful" playing in the background and a waving American flag waving in the breeze, silhouetted against the setting sun? LOL... I do so love fact-free rants like that.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:39 pmnear Irving park I mean.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:39 pmO. Bigfoot? We have a new moron?
Comment by JPark — July 17, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
A new alias anyway.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:39 pmLookout!! Wayne’s on fire tonight!
Comment by Zooey
Steamy =)
July 17th, 2007 at 11:40 pmIt's so ggod. I change the channel when a Republican speaks.TO BE FAIR(re:trolls) I listen til I know that they are repeating the same tired worn out, useless, worthless,hurtful, horrible, partisin, political, awful, repulsive swill that they keep saying. Then, I say to myself, "Keep repeating it,sir. Let the WORLD know where your obstructionist ass stands."
Oh, and I didn't think Joe LIEberman would EVER shut up!!!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:40 pmoop, thats GOOOOOD...
July 17th, 2007 at 11:40 pmHere we go again...
Come, go along, and see the truth hereof;
For our first merriment hath made thee trolls jealous.
Hey, captjashook, wanna' see trolls disappear? Watch this:
Iambic Pantameter!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:41 pm"None of the benchmarks were made. None"
You go Menendez! You are kicking booty.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:41 pmMarcus Aurelius:YOU. ARE. AWESOME.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:43 pm“President Bush has done nothing but what he said he was going to do after 12/26/04: Fight the tsunamis. I sleep better at night knowing Bush is in power, and the tsunamis are crashing on their own beachfronts rather than in our backyards. For that, I am grateful. For that reason, and that reason alone, I would vote for George W. Bush again.â€
God Bless the USA!!! Tsunami-free since 2004!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:43 pmDamn! Beat me to it!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:43 pm"A new alias anyway"
Good point, Egg, I can't keep up with the embarassing identity switches, anymore.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:44 pmMenendez knows what time it is....
July 17th, 2007 at 11:44 pmMe in NE Portland!
Comment by Egreggious
Northeast edge of Irvington.
Glad to see my fellow Cascadians in action.
Comment by captjashook
We'uns are practically neighbors. I'm on the edge of Laurelhurst, near the hospital.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:44 pmI couldn't watch Lieberman. He makes my skin crawl when he talks. Just as bad as Bush (can't listen to him either). I have only caught snippets because today was my big driving day with the kids. After dinner I am parking myself in front of the stream on my computer for as long as I can stay awake.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:44 pmAll Dems can do is talk about it. They have no power to end the war. They are too cowardly to cut off the funds.
-Billy
July 17th, 2007 at 11:45 pmMe in NE Portland!
Comment by Egreggious
That's where I am!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:45 pm...while wearing a tutu and being spanked by a hooker.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:45 pmDamn! Beat me to it!
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — July 17, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
Better safe than sorry.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:45 pmThis is the very last deal the republicans are making with this president. The stalling tactics will work for them now. The President won't have to veto a bill that would get our troops out. Congress won't have to vote against it. Come Sept. there will be another "We're making progress" type bullshit statement from the White House. But come that time, the death toll will have risen, The Iraqi govt. won't be any closer to standing up and they won't be able to go to the well once again. This will be remembered as the begining of the end of what was once known as the Grand Old Party.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:46 pm#330, you hit the nail on the head. like bush, i cannot stand to even have to see our good senator from Israel, JEW LIE-berman.....
July 17th, 2007 at 11:46 pmZooey, are you still in Portland?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:46 pmyou too, my brother!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:46 pmAnd iambic pentameter.
[I only said that because it scares off the trolls.]
Comment by Egreggious
If that ever fails, break out the quantitative meter.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:47 pmI like Egg.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:47 pmDemocrats are cowards. They want to surrender to our two biggest enemies: al qeada and Iran.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:48 pmZooey, are you still in Portland?
Comment by JG
Yep. I'm leaving Thursday. :)
July 17th, 2007 at 11:48 pmI feel sorry for the East Coasters who are almost at midnight.
Here is my Shakespeare quote for the night (aimed at LIEberman and the filibusters)
Out, out, brief candle!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:48 pmLife's but a walking shadow; a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
-Macbeth
Zooey, are you still in Portland?
Comment by JG — July 17, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
Well, she was ten minutes ago.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:48 pmThis all nighter wil lead no where. We need to publish those repubs who stand with Bush. Let their voter know how they are sticking their heads in (Bush's ass) oops the sand. They have to be accountable for their positions with the public.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:49 pmThey want to surrender to our two biggest enemies: al qeada and Iran.
Comment by Billy — July 17, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
Don't forget he BEE PEOPLE.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:49 pmBilly, you can't be that stupid. You know that is nowhere to be found outside of your brain.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:49 pmMenendez is kicking ass!!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:50 pmIf that ever fails, break out the quantitative meter.
Comment by Wayne
or battle hardened Soldiers.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:50 pm#343, yup almost midnight here on the east coast and i am enjoying every second of the dems rip these republican obstructionists to shreds...... BAM!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:51 pm#345 - MAIL THE TROOPS THE NAMES OF THE OBSTRUCTIONISTS!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:52 pmMenendez does put it together well.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:52 pmWait a minute ... I thought I wanted to surrender to Saddam? Or was it Stalin? Or maybe Castro?
Oh, wait ... now I've got it. I want to surrender to the French!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:52 pmAll Dems can do is talk. They look like such cowards wanting to surrender.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:52 pm"Democrats are cowards. They want to surrender to our two biggest enemies: al qeada and Iran."
Shorter..."I am not smart enough to get the real talking points".
July 17th, 2007 at 11:52 pmDon’t forget he BEE PEOPLE.
Comment by Egreggious
That's right! Don't mention the MoleMen! keep attention off the MoleMen.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:52 pmNo. They are not making decision due to testosterone. They want to do this smarter, in a way that might actually have a chance of success. Bush's way has done more for creating a new generation of jihadists who want to do us harm, and people around the globe who hate and distrust this country. The damage he and Cheney have wrought is immeasurable. We now have to find a way to repair the damage, restore the trust of the American public and the respect of the rest of the planet, and go after the real terrorists in a real way. That doesn't have anything to do with oil.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:52 pmTis the sport to have the enginer
July 17th, 2007 at 11:53 pmHoist with his own petard
#352 - WATCH OUT! YOU'LL GET THE BEST HEALTH-CARE FOR FREE IN THE WORLD!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:53 pmIf that ever fails, break out the quantitative meter.
Comment by Wayne
Perhaps something from The Trojan Women?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:53 pmMenedez is good. Makes perfect sense as compared to our Rightwing Senators. Night and Day.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:53 pmhey, i'm in oregon too, but i'd rather not say exactly where...
July 17th, 2007 at 11:53 pm"Shorter…'I am not smart enough to get the real talking points'."
And I'm not smart enough to spell them right, anyway.
And, based on his second post here, "All I can do is repeat."
July 17th, 2007 at 11:53 pm"This all nighter wil lead no where. We need to publish those repubs who stand with Bush."
Roger, no Republican breaks with Bush when it comes down to a close vote. No Susan Collins, no Chuck Hagel, no Lindsay Graham. They all stand by Bush when it matters. The only thing that matters is the R next to their name.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:54 pmDemocrats are so stupid they want to give up to al qaeda. They are begging for more attacks on our own soil.
Menendez should be indicted for tax fraud.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:54 pmThey are too cowardly to cut off the funds.
-Billy
Comment by Billy
Billy, when you go down to enlist, which will be soon, I take it, don't wear your mom's best dress. Mr P did that, and the Army wouldn't take him! Boy, was Mr P disappointed. He so wanted to go fight for his country. He kept trying to tell the recruiter the dress was in honor of TRudi, but, no, the recruiter wouldn't listen. Mr P was heartbroken.
Let that be a lesson to you, Billy. DON'T wear your mothers clothes when you go to enlist, which I suspect will be very soon, considering the patriotic fervor evident in your posting here.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:55 pmApparently, Billy logged in too late, so, one more try:
Iambic Pentameter!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:55 pm"All Dems can do is talk. They look like such cowards wanting to surrender"
I really feel sorry for those of you with small penises.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:55 pmhey billy, was that you on "To Catch A Predator?"
July 17th, 2007 at 11:56 pmHoist with his own petard
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — July 17, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
"Petard" tends to bring the trolls back.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:56 pmI like Egg too!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:56 pmDemocrats are so stupid they want to give up to al qaeda. They are begging for more attacks on our own soil.
Menendez should be indicted for tax fraud.
Comment by Billy
Ten hut, Soldier! What in God's name are you doing in that dress?
July 17th, 2007 at 11:56 pmFederal Probe Launched Into Menendez's Finances
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A federal investigation has been launched into the financial dealings of New Jersey Sen. Robert Menendez and a nonprofit agency he has helped over the years, sources said.
The U.S. attorney's office has subpoenaed the agency's records pertaining to a house once owned by then-congressman Menendez, sources told NewsChannel 4's Brian Thompson.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:56 pm"I feel sorry for the East Coasters who are almost at midnight."
Comment by captjashook — July 17, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
Don't be, I've been enjoying reading your posts. :D And ask anyone here, I'm used to the late hours!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:56 pmWell, if you see Bigfoot, please kick his stupid ass.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:56 pmTis the sport to have the enginer
Hoist with his own petard
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
My quote from Hamlet compairing one King to Another:
" A murderer and a villain;
July 17th, 2007 at 11:57 pmA slave that is not twentieth part the tithe
Of your precedent lord; a vice of kings;
A cutpurse of the empire and the rule,
That from a shelf the precious diadem stole,
And put it in his pocket!"
hey, i’m in oregon too, but i’d rather not say exactly where…
Comment by sasquatch — July 17, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
That one gets a drink!
July 17th, 2007 at 11:57 pmthe quorum call just called for Mr. er Mrs. Dole.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:57 pmRe: post 340... Billy, it's late. take your meds and go to bed. You don't want to miss your daily dose of Rush tomorrow, you empty headed sock puppet.
From yet another NE Portlander (Parkrose area),
CRC
July 17th, 2007 at 11:57 pm.
'And, based on his second post here, “All I can do is repeat.â€'
That was prophetic, he said the same thing again...except for the Menendez shot. Those in NJ can take care of that one.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:58 pmNo, they want to GO AFTER al Qaeda where they are, and that is not in Iraq. In the mean time, they want to actually take measures AND FUND the steps needed to protect our borders, protect our ports and oh so much more. You can't go across the sea and spray water on a hornets nest, do NOTHING to protect your own country, and then run around in circles with your honds on your head crying out "be afraid, be afraid, be afraid.."
Idiotic.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:58 pmDon't feed Billy, he went from one sentence to three. Next he is going to cut and paste something from the Drudge.
Sasquatch. You are from Oregon, nuff' said.
Zooey, I never met you, but I will miss you.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:58 pm"I like Egg."
Comment by Egreggious — July 17, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
It seems to suit you--I smiled when I read it, anyway.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:59 pmis it cause and effect, or simple coincidence? either way, smells rank.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:59 pmBigfoot doesn't exist, Marcus. He is a figment of Karl Rove's imagination.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:59 pmAll Democrats can do is talk. They are too stupid to get any real results. Bush streamrolls over them. They are gutless cowards who want to surrender to al qaeda.
July 17th, 2007 at 11:59 pm"Democrats are so stupid they want to give up to al qaeda. They are begging for more attacks on our own soil."
unlessin' you bow down to dee massa when he says, you are a beggin' for more attacks on dis here soil I says
July 17th, 2007 at 11:59 pmWillyloman,
I love that scene. Shakespeare Rocks!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:00 amRobert Menendez should be in jail. He used his office for financial gain and he is corrupt.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:00 amI am proud to knight you..."Sir Egg"
July 18th, 2007 at 12:01 amComment by willyloman — July 17, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
and, to think, the Bard isn't even here. Human nature doesn't change.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:01 amand, to think, the Bard isn’t even here. Human nature doesn’t change.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Unfortunately in this case, it has not. The "slings and arrows" do though.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:03 amLet me clarify. Al Qaeda in Iraq wasn't even formed until 2004. They are NOT the same people who had anything to do with 9/11, and they account for a VERY small proportion of the 'terrorists' in Iraq. They are not the guys who are killing our soldiers. We (the US) actually INSPIRED them renaming themselves 'al Qaeda in Iraq'.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:03 amDemocrats here are such losers. They are so happy and are cheering because the Dems are talking. What is that going to prove? All the Dems can do is talk. Bush is the one who holds the power. The Dems are cowards. Whatever Bush says, the Dems do.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:03 amZooey, I never met you, but I will miss you.
Comment by captjashook
Are you going somewhere, or am I? :)
July 18th, 2007 at 12:03 amwait WTF just happened?!?!!?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:03 amThat one gets a drink!
Comment by Egreggious
thank you, i'll have the devils club tea
July 18th, 2007 at 12:04 amiced, if you don't mind
hot this summer
Well, he was posting here tonight. got some of his fur ripped off. i was hoping Sasquatch would jack him up for us.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:04 am"Robert Menendez should be in jail."
Whatever you say, dear. Now run along, dear heart; it's past your bedtime.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:04 amQuorum call, whitey. The Senators are drifting....
July 18th, 2007 at 12:04 amI love that scene. Shakespeare Rocks!
Comment by captjashook
I used to use it as an audition piece. In a previous life.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:04 amRobert Menendez should be in jail. He used his office for financial gain and he is corrupt.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Sounds more like he should become a Republican.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:04 amHuman nature doesn’t change.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Check out Jonathan Haidt's
The Happiness Hypothesis
Best philosophy/psychology book I have read in a long time on that particular subject.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:04 am"Let me clarify. Al Qaeda in Iraq wasn’t even formed until 2004."
You are a moron. Those same terrorists were in Afghanistan. They chose to make Iraq their last stand, and the stupid Democrats here want to give them that victory. Cowards.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:05 amIf we are fighting Al Qaeda because they are the enemy, then why are we "teaming up" with them.... check it:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070717/ts_csm/oallies
Dalli Abbas, Iraq - In the pursuit of an elusive enemy the US loosely labels AQI (Al Qaeda in Iraq), US Green Berets and soldiers in this remote corner of Iraq have enlisted the help of a new ally that they have christened LRF, the "Legitimate Resistance Force."
ADVERTISEMENT
It includes ex-insurgents, police dropouts with checkered backgrounds, and former Al Qaeda-linked fighters – all united by a desire to rid Diyala Province of the network's influence, say US officers.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:05 amThe survival of the United States is not a popularity contest that can be subject to mere poll numbers, it is the right of our country to exist and be secure.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 17, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
The United States does not have a "right" to survive. Countries don't have rights. People within them do, however. These are the rights of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. And as Thomas Jefferson once wrote,
So you see, it is in fact the right of the 74%ers to dictate to their government what action it should take in issues foreign and domestic that affect our security. When the people say that the country should end a pointless war that is making our country less safe, the country should do so. If not, it is well within the rights of the people to overthrow that government.
This is one of the most basic founding principles of this country. To deny this in favor of neocon philosophy is to be truly un-American in every sense of the word.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:05 amBilly--
Did you forget include: BAGHDAD — Although Bush administration officials have frequently lashed out at Syria and Iran, accusing it of helping insurgents and militias here, the largest number of foreign fighters and suicide bombers in Iraq come from a third neighbor, Saudi Arabia, according to a senior U.S. military officer and Iraqi lawmakers.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:05 amZooey, I never met you, but I will miss you.
Comment by captjashook
Are you going somewhere, or am I? :)
Comment by Zooey
Didn't you just post that you were leaving Portland?
If not, my apologies. I didn't mean to kick you out the door.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:06 amhot this summer
Comment by sasquatch
well take off the gorilla suit.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:06 amwhere'd my Cspan go??? (I was makin Bloody Marys)-y'know-I have no idea how to pluralise "bloody mary'...
July 18th, 2007 at 12:06 amooooohhh..thanks Zooey!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:07 am"Democrats here are such losers."
LOL... Whatever you say, dear; we'll give this just as much credence as we do your other pronouncements.
"They are so happy and are cheering because the Dems are talking."
Yes, dear, because we're finally having a very public debate that we should have had years ago.
"What is that going to prove?"
That Republicans are blocking what the American public wants.
"All the Dems can do is talk. Bush is the one who holds the power. The Dems are cowards. Whatever Bush says, the Dems do."
See you in 2008, dear.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:07 amWell, if you see Bigfoot, please kick his stupid ass.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
are you referring to that guy in the cheap hair suit?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:07 amhe's going to get shot at if he keeps hanging around those resort bar parking lots.
You're either with us or you're against us...uh, if you don't support funneling another hundred billion in tax dollars to Bush's campaign contributors at Halliburton, the Baby Jesus will cry...er, I mean, uh, we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here...why do Democrats hate America? Uh, did you hear Clinton got a blow job? Michael Moore--still fat! Buses! Vince Foster! Uh, Sandy Berger's pants! Blue Dress! Defeat-o-crats! Surrender dates! Ummm...shit, that's about all I got--I've got to keep this up for another 24 hours?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:07 am[/wingnut]
well....
being a Southern boy...
the new Bill Engvall is on Comedy Central....
July 18th, 2007 at 12:08 amYou are a moron. Those same terrorists were in Afghanistan. They chose to make Iraq their last stand, and the stupid Democrats here want to give them that victory. Cowards.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:05 am
Which ones? Name which members of ISI were trained in Afghanistan.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:08 amBilly likes bleating. Let him bleat. He is a nothing and always will be.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:08 amI have no idea how to pluralise “bloody mary’…
Comment by whiteyfresh — July 18, 2007 @ 12:06 am
Then maybe you better slow down a bit on those Bloody Maryses.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:09 amwhere’d my Cspan go??? (I was makin Bloody Marys)-y’know-I have no idea how to pluralise “bloody mary’…
Comment by whiteyfresh
Usually you just cut off her head.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:09 amjpark-Billy-
GOAT?
(bleating)
:D
July 18th, 2007 at 12:09 amOh jeeze - Bigfoot's a prostitute. Then again, he's a Republican. Makes sense.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:10 am"You are a moron."
LOL... Coming from this guy, I'll take that as a compliment.
"Those same terrorists were in Afghanistan."
Well, that's kind of the point, dear ... these aren't "the same terrorists."
"They chose to make Iraq their last stand"
No, dear, they didn't. They're still thriving in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Iraq group is a spin-off, with their own agenda.
"and the stupid Democrats here want to give them that victory. Cowards."
As compared to someone who so avidly supports this war but is too cowardly to actually fight it?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:10 amWell I will be surprised to see how late they can stay up.
I know we blog till 4 in the morning sometimes, so they better go at least that far.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:10 amwell take off the gorilla suit.
Comment by willyloman
actually, in summer i do a complete shave, and pick up clothes in campgrounds, that way i can still hang at the beach
July 18th, 2007 at 12:11 amOK everyone:
July 18th, 2007 at 12:11 amJust how DO you pluralise "bloody mary"?
whitey, I was thinking sheep but that guy will swallow anything so goat might be more appropriate.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:11 amDidn’t you just post that you were leaving Portland?
If not, my apologies. I didn’t mean to kick you out the door.
Comment by captjashook
I'm just visiting my son, I'll be back. :)
They have the internets in Idaho, so I'll be posting from there on Friday. You won't even be able to tell the difference!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:11 amHalf the Dems voted for the war in Iraq. Cowards.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:12 amBARTLEBEE!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:12 amhallo!
I knew something was missing...
Of course the Billy Goat part, that I just totally missed, would make it perfect!!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:12 amHold the tomato juice, and have two.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:12 amooooohhh..thanks Zooey!
Comment by whiteyfresh
Anytime, whitey.
Bloody Mari?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:12 amPerhaps something from The Trojan Women?
Comment by captjashook
Euripides, very good. Impresive. =)
Are you familiar with the way quantitative meter of Classical Greek inspired the Renaissance experiments in English prose and poetry?
In Classical Greek poetry an iamb consisted of a short syllable followed by a long syllable. ( that should really get to the trolls )
July 18th, 2007 at 12:12 amjPark:hehehe...
July 18th, 2007 at 12:13 amLOL, Billy. You are so precious. Like Corky, from Life Goes On.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:13 amThey have the internets in Idaho, so I’ll be posting from there on Friday. You won’t even be able to tell the difference!
Comment by Zooey — July 18, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Zooey? You live in Idaho?
You know where pokatater is?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:13 amHow about "I'll have another bloody mary"
July 18th, 2007 at 12:13 amwhiteyfresh - Just how DO you pluralise “bloody mary�
Ummm yummy. Wish I was at your house.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:14 amBilly, dear, would you mind if we just copied and pasted your previous comments and kept adding them over and over again? It would be ever so much easier and just as content-free. And then you could finally go to bed.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:14 am"these aren’t “the same terrorists.â€"
These are exactly the same terrorists. They were trained in Afghanistan. Stupid Democrats here, like you, just want to give them a victory.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:14 amI knew something was missing…
Comment by whiteyfresh — July 18, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Whats a rose bush without a thorn ay? lol
July 18th, 2007 at 12:14 amHalf the Dems voted for the war in Iraq. Cowards.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:12 am
That was a cowardly act indeed!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:14 amOh, I can tell the difference Zooey... I can sense the difference.
Who cares how you pluralize Bloody Mary? Here try this:
Go to the kitchen.
Get out the Bloody Mary mix.
Get out the Gin or Vodka (your preference)
Get out 3 glasses.
Mix.
There you have pluralized Bloddy Mary.
Now drink.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:15 amJust drove out to Idaho (from Virginia - yikes!) to visit my step son. He's stationed at Mountain Home AFB. Pretty cool place, Idaho. Have fun.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:15 amhellinabucket too? wow, I'm among the greats tonight.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:15 am;)
Half the dems in the senate voted for the war, and now they are to be taken seriously as anti-war? What a bunch of cowards. Bush does whatever he wants, and the Dems are too cowardly to stop him.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:16 am( that should really get to the trolls )
Comment by Wayne — July 18, 2007 @ 12:12 am
I think I may be borderline troll.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:16 am"These are exactly the same terrorists."
LOL... No, dear, they aren't, which is something the latest NIE released by the Bush administration points out. You really should try to keep up, dear.
"They were trained in Afghanistan."
No, dear, for the most part, they weren't. There's no need, since there's plenty of training ground in Iraq. Moreover, al Qaeda in Iraq is just a tiny portion of the violence there. The rest of the violence is in the civil war, which has nothing at all to do with al Qaeda.
"Stupid Democrats here, like you, just want to give them a victory."
ROFL... Whatever you say, dear.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:17 amJG-i'll make one for ya-door's always open at my place!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:17 amThey have the internets in Idaho, so I’ll be posting from there on Friday. You won’t even be able to tell the difference!
Comment by Zooey
yeah it's cool how those tubes reach all the way out there, heh
July 18th, 2007 at 12:18 amidaho is cool
July 18th, 2007 at 12:18 ami used to bump around in the forest near priest lake
"the largest number of foreign fighters and suicide bombers in Iraq come from a third neighbor, Saudi Arabia"
Just like they did on 9/11. These are the same terrorists we are fighting in Iraq. Democrats are cowardly for wanting to surrender to them.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:18 amThese are exactly the same terrorists. They were trained in Afghanistan. Stupid Democrats here, like you, just want to give them a victory.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:14 am
Ohhh, so they were trained in Afghanistan when, exactly? After we invaded in late 2001? Or did they train in the late 90s and decide to wait around until 2004 to start doing something operational?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:18 amBilly, dear, you're repeating yourself. Can you really not think of anything new to say? I'm going to have to stop playing with you if you can't come up with anything fresh, dear.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:18 amWhadda ya' think, this is football or something? There is no definition of "victory" in Iraq, therefore, there can be no "defeat".
So, little Billy, when are you enlisting, and in what branch?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:18 amComment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:16 am
And that's your reason to stand behind the one who told the lies? I take it your the M in S & M.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:19 amWell the "wavering senators" voicemail boxes are full... I called Lugar and his is full... so I called others ... they appear all to be full...
July 18th, 2007 at 12:19 amZooey? You live in Idaho?
You know where pokatater is?
Comment by BARTLEBEE
No idea. No potatoes grow around here!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:19 amdoor’s always open at my place!
Comment by whiteyfresh — July 18, 2007 @ 12:17 am
But the BEE PEOPLE will get in!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:20 amWayne,
I'm an actor, not a lit major. But when performing both Greek and Elizabethan/Jacobian theater, we always do our "scansion". Which consists in breaking the verse down into the stressed syllables in the pentameter. This is to get the rhythm and to identify the operative words.
I also did a production of Cantebury Tales and Chaucer had the same rythmic style two hundred years before Elizabeth.
Is that what you mean?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:20 am"which is something the latest NIE released by the Bush administration points out"
Whatever you say, dear.
The terrorists in Iraq are the same ones we are fighting in Afghansitan, you know, the war you were to cowardly to enlist to fight in, dear?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:20 amJust like they did on 9/11. These are the same terrorists we are fighting in Iraq. Democrats are cowardly for wanting to surrender to them.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Okay, so they trained in Afghanistan, then decided to hang out in Saudi Arabia for a few years, then came BACK in 2004 and went to Iraq. Is that what happened? These guys sure got around!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:20 am"These are the same terrorists we are fighting in Iraq."
Gee, dear, I thought you said that these were from Afghanistan. Do try to keep your stories straight, won't you, dear?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:21 amidaho is cool
i used to bump around in the forest near priest lake
Comment by sasquatch
I thought you got blown up by Mt St Helens?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:21 amYou know where I'm talking about right Zooey? Pocatello? I almost married a girl from Pocatello. Her family called it "pocatater".
July 18th, 2007 at 12:21 amExactly how does one surrender to a terrorist? You freekin' numbskull.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:22 amComment by captjashook — July 18, 2007 @ 12:20 am
I thought we were just trying to scare the trolls off, not kill them!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:22 am"there can be no “defeatâ€."
Says the guy who is waving the white flag to al qaeda. You are a coward.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:22 amtoasterhead:more than Vitter and Rove combined!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:23 amWow billy i actually agree with you a little... you fell short though:
“the largest number of foreign fighters and suicide bombers in Iraq come from a third neighbor, Saudi Arabiaâ€
Just like they did on 9/11. These are the same terrorists we are fighting in Iraq.
I know you dont need to be reminded, but BUSH invited them there after his illegal invasion. Not only are we fighting those fucks, but we are fighting many more enemies than have no uniform or identity. Unfortunately the dems still want troops there, so its not like everyone is packing up and going home.....
July 18th, 2007 at 12:23 amMaybe the bastards are cloning? Maybe there are only 50 or so real terrorists but the godless muslim commies are cloning the terrorist with the same evil gene of OBL himself. Good thing GW's against cloning too.
maybe.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:23 am"The terrorists in Iraq are the same ones we are fighting in Afghansitan"
No, dear, they weren't, which is why even the Bush administration isn't dumb enough to admit this.
"you know, the war you were to cowardly to enlist to fight in, dear?"
LOL... Dear heart, I'm not the one supporting the war and refusing to actually fight it. My position is entirely consistent. Yours, on the other hand, is the position of hypocrisy and cowardice. Sucks to be you.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:23 am"I thought you said that these were from Afghanistan"
They all trained in Afghanistan. Are you really this stupid, dear?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:24 amI almost married a girl from Pocatello.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 18, 2007 @ 12:21 am
I love that song!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:24 amYou know where I’m talking about right Zooey? Pocatello? I almost married a girl from Pocatello. Her family called it “pocataterâ€.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Ohhhh. I've never heard that! Not very complimentary to their daughter, was it?
I'm way up north, where the sasquatch has no cover.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:24 amHe dropped the Troll bomb.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:24 amWhen will this bull stop?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:24 amThe Republicans support Bush to no end.
Even though the people say "stop this madness".
America can move in and out of Iraq all we want... who will stop us? No one. So there is no defeat or surrender...to who? Who the hell in this world is going to defeat us to make us surrender? No one. It has nothing to do with defeat... it has to do with deciding what we want to do about 911 and what to do about being frauded into Iraq by our own President and VP...
July 18th, 2007 at 12:24 am"I thought you got blown up by Mt St Helens?"
Comment by Zooey
that was a second cousin, once removed.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:24 amnow completely removed.
Billy, Billy
"Billy, Billy, come and play,
While the sun shines bright as day."
"Yes, my Polly, so I will,
For I love to please you still."
"Billy, Billy, have you seen
Sam and Betsy on the green?"
"Yes, my Poll, I saw them pass,
Skipping o'er the new-mown grass."
"Billy, Billy, come along,
July 18th, 2007 at 12:25 amAnd I will sing a pretty song."
"Okay, so they trained in Afghanistan, then decided to hang out in Saudi Arabia for a few years, then came BACK in 2004 and went to Iraq. Is that what happened? These guys sure got around!"
Are you really this stupid?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:25 amIt probably sucks to be close to him as well.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:25 amIs that what you mean?
Comment by captjashook
Yes.
I took quite a few lit classes, wasn't even a minor, but it caught my interest. =)
July 18th, 2007 at 12:26 amThanks for the support y'all.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:26 am"They all trained in Afghanistan."
ROFL... Was that before or after we invaded, dear? And was that before or after they visited Saudi Arabia? And Iraq? My goodness, but these fellows do get around.
You do realize, dear, that what you are writing is totally insane, don't you? And that it's directly contradicted by your hero, George W. Bush?
"Are you really this stupid, dear?"
ROFLMAO... Says the guy who can't even get the basic facts straight!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:26 amthat was a second cousin, once removed.
now completely removed.
Comment by sasquatch
My condolences.....
July 18th, 2007 at 12:26 amwell, I'm not scared of the likes of you, you little Neocon peckerwood.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:26 am“the largest number of foreign fighters and suicide bombers in Iraq come from a third neighbor, Saudi Arabiaâ€
Just like they did on 9/11. These are the same terrorists we are fighting in Iraq. Democrats are cowardly for wanting to surrender to them.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Then why isn't Bush attacking Saudi Arabia? And why didn't he attack Saudi Arabia in the first place, since they weren't in Iraq back then?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:26 amWell said, Gerald.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:27 amScientists have discovered the missing sense which can cause a person to fall into the Republican party.
It's called Common Sense.
Common sense is sometimes appealed to in political debates, particularly when other arguments have been exhausted. Civil rights for African Americans, women's suffrage, and homosexuality—to name just a few—have all been attacked as being contrary to common sense.
Who would attack these basic common sense rights for people.
Republicans.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:27 am"Who the hell in this world is going to defeat us to make us surrender? No one."
That's right nobody is going to make us surrender. The dumb Democrats are not going to have their way. All they can do is talk all night. It's not going to amount to anything.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:27 am"Are you really this stupid?"
ROFL... Oh, the irony. The poor guy knows just what a fool he's making of himself but he dug that hole so deep that there's nothing he can do but keep digging it. It's rare to find someone so relentlessly clueless.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:27 amOkay, now I'm getting bored. Billy can't even be bothered to come up with new material. Can we get a new troll now, please?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:28 amI noticed earlier how someone jumped from Carter creating the threat from Afghanistan (technically true, as far as radical Muslim terrorists go, but there's more to that story a little later), to Clinton being faulted for the ultimate failure.
Never mind the twelve years of Republican rule under Reagan (who is dead, BTW) and GHW Bush. Reagan LOVED the idea of arming the Afghan rebels against the Soviets and continuing Brzezinski's plan to give the Soviets their own "Vietnam", and ran with it, increasing the funding for it significantly. Among the many people trained by our tax money, by these two men, was Osama bin Laden. So, yes. The Republicans certainly bear some responsibility for their role in bringing about the conditions thjat lead to the attacks of Sept 11.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:28 amAre you really this stupid?
Comment by Billy
You certainly appear to be. You haven't made a single cogent comment tonight. I know cogent is a big word, but you can handle it.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:28 amPaulB wears a dress. He was too much of a coward to enlist to fight in Afghanistan.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:28 amA fool by any other name would still smell like Billy.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:29 amRobert Menendez committed a crime in New Jersey. He should be in jail, not the senate.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:29 amThe plural is Bloodies Marys, as in Surgeons General, or Attorneys General. To make a proper Bloody Mary though, you have to use a tiny crucifix for a swizzle stick, Not only is it graphically consistent, the cross keeps the swizzle stick from falling in the glass, and you can squeeze the lime on the crown of thorns,
Got the tip from Daryll.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:29 amJpark is gay.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:29 amYou sound scared. Better sleep in your mom's bed tonight. The Democrats'll get'cha if ya' don't watch out.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:31 amSays the guy who is waving the white flag to al qaeda. You are a coward.
Comment by Silly — July 18, 2007 @ 12:22 am
BAAWAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHA..... sorry.... its late and hearing you guys say stuff like that,.... well. just cracks me up.
Curious though. When are you guys going to stop waving your asses at Al Qaueda, and actually go find some?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:31 amWell if any GOPers are sleeping over in DC tonight, then have them watched by secret cameras because they might have a sex orgy > lol.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:32 amALthough I will admit your prowess in "creating" Al Qaueda whereever you go is impressive.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:32 amOkay, I am a bit peeved.
I had to pull guard duty in Desert Storm for 24 hours at a time. These bozos can't even stay up all night? They need a few Bloody Mary's.
Yeah, Billy, unlike your weenie chickenhawk arse, many of us Democrats did and DO serve.
Wanker.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:33 ambilly has already surrendered...
he's an ASSMONKEY
July 18th, 2007 at 12:33 amWhat member of al qaeda did a Democrat ever capture? Well, they captured the heart of Osama bin Laden. He loves Democrats.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:33 amPaulB and Jpark are gay lovers.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:34 amI'm starting to think "Bloody Mary" is the plural of "Bloody Mary".
July 18th, 2007 at 12:35 amStop this fckin charade and impeach the sons of biches. I am getting drunk..this is taking longer. REM I am drunk but not wasted like our beloved PrezNUT.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:35 amOh my, the piss-soaked trolls have arrived, and they are worried!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:35 amWe ARE watching ... and what these folks do tonight will come back to haunt them in '08. Do the right thing --- get us OUT of Iraq and bring our troops and dollars back home, where they should have stayed in the first place.
We've already shed far too much blood and indebted our children far too much just to feed the egos and bank accounts of the few.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:35 amThat’s right nobody is going to make us surrender.
Comment by Filly — July 18, 2007 @ 12:27 am
Ahh. Another literary challanged neocon I see.
Heres a hint Wordsworth.
The word "Surrender" in military terms means to lay down your arms and turn your soldiers over to the enemy to become prisoners of war".
Withdrawing from the battlefield fully armed with your army intact, is not surrender, or retreat even.
It is merely withdrawing.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:36 amOK. Had to go feed the fam (we are eating late tonight). What did I miss? Are they voting on something?
Did anyone catch the Rachel Maddow show today? Hilarious. I love her. She pointed something out I hadn't thought of. The Intelligence Report came out today (with an early release to the press) right in front of this vote or attempt to vote tonight. She had a very funny way to frame it -- be be be be afraid afraid afraid afraid... (hers was far more humerous..). She made the point that this was no accident. Which is what it so hard to buy..
Funny, Bush also crashed a meeting at the Capitol today with Republicans and their staffers. Was that meant to intimidate anyone else from defecting???
July 18th, 2007 at 12:36 amhttp://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/17/mildly-profane-bush-crashes-republican-meeting-on-iraq/
PaulB and Jpark are gay lovers.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Hey, we only out Republicans around here!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:36 amI’m starting to think “Bloody Mary†is the plural of “Bloody Maryâ€.
Comment by Egreggious
Genius!
Heh. Egg.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:36 amPaulB and Jpark are gay lovers.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:36 amHave you run out of things to say?? Please go to bed.
"Hippies, come off the pot and support Iraqis and the troops. I will continue to pray for your party."
Hippie and proud of it. And, it's kind of funny but I do support the Iraqi's. I would like to see them have a good life again. I would like to see them have electricity and clean water and be able to send their kids to school. And I do support the troops. I would like to bring them home.
It never ceases to amaze me how you can say you support the troops when you are willing to have them sent to Iraq with not enough rest, ill equipped, ill trained and with no end in sight. You seem perfectly happy to send them to their graves. Now that's really supporting the troops.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:37 amThis all night session is actually bolstering the case for the war. It is backfiring on the Dems. It's just a bunch of senators making the case for the war and Dems are so stupid they allowed this.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:37 amHell, he ran out of things to say after his first post.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:38 ammmmmmmMMMMMMMmmm
bloody maruesisessisisisis....
July 18th, 2007 at 12:39 amPlease go to bed.
Comment by JG — July 18, 2007 @ 12:36 am
McConnell's got a cot all laid out for you.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:39 amIt is a fact that bin Laden wanted Bush to win in 2004 over Kerry. Sorry if that bursts anyone's acerebralist talking points.
Got something new up.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:39 amThis tool Johnny Isakson is using the soldiers as a political shield again. How can he say that crap with Jim Webb sitting in the chair, knowing that Webb's son is over there.
God, I hate chickenhawks.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:39 am“Okay, so they trained in Afghanistan, then decided to hang out in Saudi Arabia for a few years, then came BACK in 2004 and went to Iraq. Is that what happened? These guys sure got around!â€
Are you really this stupid?
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:25 am
Apart from the probably dead Abu Ayyab al-Masri, which other leaders of the Islamic State of Iraq trained in Afghanistan? I'm still waiting for your answer to this.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:40 amComment by Katie — July 18, 2007 @ 12:37 am
I agree -- good post.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:40 am"Stop this fckin charade and impeach the sons of biches."
We impeached Clinton. You guys don't have the guts to impeach Bush. You are cowards.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:40 amYeah, Billy, unlike your weenie chickenhawk arse, many of us Democrats did and DO serve.
Wanker.
Comment by captjashook
lmao
Shhhhh....
July 18th, 2007 at 12:40 amDon't tell him that, he might have an aneurysm if he really finally understood that.
I don't think the tiny blood vessels in his brain could take that kind of shock.
What member of al qaeda did a Democrat ever capture?
Comment by HillBilly — July 18, 2007 @ 12:33 am
Well when Bill Clinton was president, it wasn't Al Quaida that blew a whole in the Oklahoma Federal building, killing over 300 Americans. It was a right wing neocon nutjob with ties to the fringe radical christian cult, Elohim City.
And Clinton GOT his terrorist.
Meanwhile you big bad terrorist hunters went looking for Osama Bin Laden in Iraq, because you were too scared to go into Kashmir.
The man who knocked down the Twin Towers, is laughing at us, because you guys can't do the job.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:40 amWay to go, Katie!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:41 amPaulB and Mike Crotch were caught in bed together.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:41 amBeautiful, just beautiful.
If you keep this up, democrats, you're going to win so many votes in '08, we might see a 70%+ turnout in favor of the candidate of our choosing.
Keep the pressure on, air out the dust, show the people of the United States and other members of the human species that you do indeed have spines, and that you do indeed wish to end this.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:41 amBill Clinton GOT his terrorist.
Wheres yours again?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:42 amGot something new up.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 18, 2007 @ 12:39 am
I hope you're talking about your blog.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:42 am"...you big bad terrorist hunters..."
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 18, 2007 @ 12:40 am
I thought that Newt said they were giraffe hunters?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:43 amRepublicans argument has been so far, that soldiers should continuing dying during August while Iraqi politicians take a month vacation.
We know now that the surge is a failure and there is no justification to wait until Sept 15th to end the nightmare.
The Republicans have an 18% approval rating in the US. They can't lead here by every poll conducted and certainly have destroyed Iraq.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:43 amI thought that Newt said they were giraffe hunters?
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 18, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Yea but just like they went looking for Bin Laden in Iraq they ended up hunting for Giraffes in Boston.
:|
Made for an uncomfortable scene at the Zoo.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:44 amI guess Billy got a new talking point from the Rove-O-Sphere...
July 18th, 2007 at 12:44 amspot on xbot. This is the emergence of the democratic spine.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:44 amYou guys don’t have the guts to impeach Bush. You are cowards.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:40 am
Did he just say something that made sense? I'm not sure, I'm drunk.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:45 amGood post Katie, Our being there doesn't seem to bring them electricity, clean water or jobs let alone security. Our soldiers go out every day and beings everyone looks the same, they have no way of knowing who the enemy is that they are fighting, and where the next IED or car bomb is going to pop up or explode. This is absolute insanity. At the same time, in the Green Zone where all the private contractors are staying, they all have electricity, clean water, pools, food, and you name it.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:46 amThis has never been about the Iraqis. It is just the right language to use to get people here behind it because people in this country have big hearts and they really do care. They are being manipulated up the kazoo. It is just SO wrong on so many levels. This isn't about how hard the soldiers are trying, I know they are working hard and putting their lives on the line. This is about the lies the Administration is using to put forth their deceptive agenda.
Republicans argument has been so far, that soldiers should continuing dying during August while Iraqi politicians take a month vacation.
Comment by Fools on Hill — July 18, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Thats right.
All they're trying to do is give the troops a fair shake. Imagine having to keep going back, watching the odds climb higher and higher with each tour that your're going to lose your life, or at least a limb. It must be nerve racking to say the least.
The Democrats want to give the troops the required rest intervals in between tours, and the republicans just want them to bleed.
The democrats are trying to support the troops, but the republicans won't let them.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:46 amComment by Katie — July 18, 2007 @ 12:37 am
Great post, Katie. There is no proof that that Bush supporters can present that proves that he has supported them himself. He has cut funding for veterans' care, short-changed active troops on equipment, and wasted billions of our tax dollars on Rumsfeld's Wet Dream Lean Mean Outsourced Fighting Machine, at who know how many times the cost of training and paying a soldier to do the same job. Like watching out for his buddies by making sure they don't get fed rancid meat and contaminated water.
This administration owes the American people, in more ways than one.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:47 amwhen does Obama come on?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:47 amThe corner the republicans are painting themselves in will be impossible to get out of come Sept. and the next election.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:48 amYea but just like they went looking for Bin Laden in Iraq they ended up hunting for Giraffes in Boston.
:|
Made for an uncomfortable scene at the Zoo.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 18, 2007 @ 12:44 am
But they only got those damn Moononites....
;)
July 18th, 2007 at 12:48 amPaulB and Mike Crotch were caught in bed together.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:41 am
Yaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnn
Is this the best the right can come up with?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:48 amDid he just say something that made sense? I’m not sure, I’m drunk.
Comment by Egreggious — July 18, 2007 @ 12:45 am
you too?
hell jeah....
July 18th, 2007 at 12:49 amI hope you’re talking about your blog.
Comment by Egreggious — July 18, 2007 @ 12:42 am
As it happens, this time, yes.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:50 amWe had the guts to impeach that fucker Clinton, and it led to the victory of Bush in 2000.
You guys are just about talking all night. Lame.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:50 am"Jpark is gay." and "PaulB and Jpark are gay lovers."
No, I have seen no indication that I am gay. I have sex with women and only women. Odd that you would totally miss on your prediction. You just aren't very bright.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:51 amgreat post both Katie and Wayne.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:51 amwhen does Obama come on?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:51 amI'll tell you when. The day that the vote goes up in the House to Impeach Bush and Cheney. They will pull Bin Laden out of a hat. Then they will be the 'heroes' of the hour and the steam will go out of the Impeachment balloon. (Probably not, but this is exactly how these manipulative b*stards operate).
is there a schedule for when the senators are speaking somewhere?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:51 amWhen is Barrak Hussein Obama going to speak?
Half the Dems voted for war in Iraq. They got us into the war and are powerless to get us out. They are cowards.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:52 amHey Billy, Knock knock.....
July 18th, 2007 at 12:53 amI wonder if dear little Billy realizes just how much he shows about himself by the insults he chooses?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:53 amThis republitool is asking questions that Dems have been asking this president for the last year and most of us for years.
And he is saying it as if he is profound or something.
Oklahoma, where the wind blows gently from Coburn's arse.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:53 amPaulB has a crush on Mike Crotch. lol
July 18th, 2007 at 12:53 amWow, there are soldiers with different views.
Newsflash.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:54 amI can't believe I just did that. A thousand lashes with a wet noodle.. The galss of wine must have hit me.. I HATE it when FOX noise does that and I just did the same thing.. I AM SO SORRY!!!!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:54 amknock knock
July 18th, 2007 at 12:54 amTom Coburn is speaking right now and he's ripping the Dems a new one. Good for him! Dems are so stupid for giving the GOP an all night platform to support our troops.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:54 amA filibuster is a beautiful thing to behold.
It focuses light on a serious issue that otherwise would go unchallenged.
Iraq: Is it part of the war on terror? The original reason to invade was to disarm Saddam. Done. No WMD were found. Saddam was deposed. The Iraqi people drafted a new constitution and elected a democratic government.
It seems if Bush wants to set the Iraqis free, he's gonna have to trust them to sort things out for themselves. That means no more setting benchmarks, most of which serve American interests and not Iraqi interests. It means withdrawing US troops and redeploying them to Afghanistan where the real War on Terror is and is, btw, going rather badly.
I should point out that, when military analysts discuss what Bush is doing to the military, the word 'degraded' keeps coming up. DEGRADED: it's not exactly a word that goes with 'Support the Troops', does it? The neo-con trolls who work this site have never been in a real war or even a well-designed virtual war. Degraded troops don't win wars. Do you really think you can keep up this charade of occupying Iraq when the troops are stressed out, exhausted, supplies are low, morale is lower, the mission is ill-defined, and the enemy unknown? Get real.
When I read about Bush crashing a GOP meeting on the War today and being pumped about the surge's success [sic], all I could think was 'MAD DOG'. Bush is behaving like those crazed loony lieutenants in Vietnam who were fragged by their own troops. It's a sad moment when the grunts know the score while the commander is 'out to lunch'.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:54 amWhen is Barrak Hussein Obama going to speak?
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:52 am
I'm wasted but I think it's Barack Hussein Obama.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:55 amBilly, you do know you are a tool, right? Kind of a wimpy little pussy? Just asking.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:55 am"We should talk about what is great about our country..."
" I don't know of finer individuals than the military"
"We have made mistakes, but it doesn't change where we are."
I thought you had to have an IQ to be in the senate.
This guy is a farce of a farce.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:55 amknock knock Billy
July 18th, 2007 at 12:55 amTom Coburn is the product of incest. You like him, Billy?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:56 amWhen is Barrak Hussein Obama going to speak?
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Would you please kindly explain what your problem is?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:56 amDoes anyone have the transcript of LieberDerm's nutty speech from earlier in the CotFest? You know, the one where he quotes various Al-Q higher-ups and then says something along the lines of "I'm not making this stuff up to scare you?"
July 18th, 2007 at 12:57 amBilly, you do know you are a tool, right? Kind of a wimpy little pussy? Just asking.
Comment by JPark — July 18, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Not to mention that his dress is about ten years out of fashion.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:57 amTom Coburn saying he views Iraq as a patient with cancer and he is pondering the best chemo to give. It is impossible to figure out what he is talking about given that chemo has nothing to do with politics and war.
Now he's singing the national anthem and talking us about his young man experiences.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:58 amHonestly, Tom Coburn is only the product of incest for the last three generations, unlike Imhoff, he goes a full seven but still. You are showing your southern intelligence.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:58 amI'm sure Barrak Hussein Obama is going to support his brothers in arms.
The economy is booming and all the Dems can do is give the GOP a platform to support the troops all night. Good for them!
July 18th, 2007 at 12:59 amThey got us into the war and are powerless to get us out. They are cowards.
Comment by HillBilly — July 18, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Lol. It must be an automated troll. Either that or he's got a series of canned comments saved in a text file that he just pastes in every 5 minutes.
If this clown is the best of the Volksturm left in the right wing, then thats pretty much the ballgame.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:59 amAm I the only one not drinking tonight?:-(
..........
Comment by JG — July 18, 2007 @ 12:54 am
You're one up on Fux Noose, you at least realized your error and apologized immediately! :)
July 18th, 2007 at 12:59 am“I’m not making this stuff up to scare you?â€
Comment by J. A. Baker — July 18, 2007 @ 12:57 am
Why was he making it up again?
July 18th, 2007 at 12:59 amSir Egg, not to mention you will catch more flies with shaved freaking legs.
July 18th, 2007 at 12:59 amTom Coburn is speaking right now and he’s ripping the Dems a new one. Good for him! Dems are so stupid for giving the GOP an all night platform to support our troops.
Comment by Billy
I don't know how to respond to this guy. He is absolutely the least challenging, moronic troll that I have encountered in a long time.
Is this the best you have Billy?
If you are the best the Right wingnuts have to give Think Progress, I have absolutely no doubt that
July 18th, 2007 at 12:59 amDemocrats will succeed in bringing true victory and peace.
Where are CT-V1, patrick1, jake, Mr. president, and all of the other trolls? Guess their moms made them go to bed.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:00 amYou know this might just be show, but I got to admit they're making a pretty good show of it. This might actually help get something done.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:00 amI am so embarrassed... :-\
July 18th, 2007 at 1:00 amJpark had gay love with Barney Frank.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:00 amdammit:being Southern Jpark, I ALMOST take offence,
....
July 18th, 2007 at 1:01 ambut being Southern, I understand TOTALLY..
If this clown is the best of the Volksturm left in the right wing, then thats pretty much the ballgame.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 18, 2007 @ 12:59 am
I think this the best they've got available on graveyard shift.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:01 amAre people outside gathering and staying there throughout the night? Is anyone covering that?
July 18th, 2007 at 1:01 amthe Reed / Levin amendment doesn't need to address Iran. The Bush administration just today announced that there will be additional talks with Iran that will address Iraq. Coburn you ass.
Didn't want to bite huh lil billy.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:02 amWould you please kindly explain what your problem is?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
My guess would be genetics.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:03 amIt has never entered Lieberman's mind that the enemy uses propaganda and it fools Liberman and the administration into a disastrous trap every time. We have the stupidest politicians in the world. That is the reason Americans are dying in Iraq will the coalition of the willing have departed.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:03 am"Democrats will succeed in bringing true victory"
Maybe to al qaeda. That is what you hope, anyway. It's not going to happen, bastard.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:03 amYou know what would make this even better?
If Barbara Boxer would just walk over to Lieberman and just smack the shiite out of him.
Hell they could sell that on Pay Per View.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:04 amDavid --with a capital D-- asks, "When does Obama come on?"
Now, I am david --all lowercase-- and I'm Canadian, so forgive me if I have this wrong, but I do believe that a filibuster is where one side blows hot air until it wheezes to a stop like a child's baloon, or, the majority party gives in because it has better things to do.
We are only gonna hear from Republicans tonight. The GOP can yield the floor for questions --and here the Dems can stick it to the GOP-- but I don't think the GOP is obliged to take questions.
Does this filibuster give the GOP a wonderful platform? Well, yes and no. Not many people are watching at this hour and, as they get tired, the risk of saying something so utterly stupid and embarrassing increases exponentially. The Trolls may cheer, but I'm betting tomorrow's soundbyte will involve a Republican senator making a really bone-headed howler at about 4am.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:04 amBilly, don't be a zero.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:04 amDon't be a fool with your posts.
"Jpark had gay love with Barney Frank."
That is weird. I don't remember that. Were you having gay dreams about me and a great Senator? I think that says more about you than it does me. Weird.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:04 amI think this the best they’ve got available on graveyard shift.
Comment by Egreggious
outsourcing is taking it's... "troll". hahahahahaha
July 18th, 2007 at 1:04 am"the Reed / Levin amendment doesn’t need to address Iran."
Bush is going to bomb Iran. There is nothing the Dems can do to stop him. They will probably vote for the measure.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:04 amWayne,
I loved Casa Blanco!
July 18th, 2007 at 1:04 amI'm feeling a lot better about the Democrats in the Senate. I appreciate their willingness to stand together against the Republicans who support this immoral and unjustified war. The country is turning against the Republicans. We're gaining momentum. This war must end. This war will end.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:05 amI can't remember who. But someone recently pointed out to me that a usual play by those in power is to try to bend the argument into saying "the solution will be too difficult and cause more chaos". I think it was in reference to how they destroyed Hillary's Health care plan.
This dillrod from OkeyDokey is trying to do the same thing.
Tool.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:06 am"dammit:being Southern Jpark, I ALMOST take offence,"
whitey, there are about 8 normal southerners (7 if you don't include you).
July 18th, 2007 at 1:06 amThe Trolls may cheer, but I’m betting tomorrow’s soundbyte will involve a Republican senator making a really bone-headed howler at about 4am.
Comment by david — July 18, 2007 @ 1:04 am
Or me.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:06 am"If Barbara Boxer would just walk over to Lieberman and just smack the shiite out of him."
Boxer voted for the war in Iraq, just like Hillary.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:07 amOk, I'm tired now because Wayne's post got me laughing.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:07 amBilly hehehehe plays with hehehehehe his penus hehehehehehehe
July 18th, 2007 at 1:07 amCoburn is so damn concerned about the people of the middle east that he supports the Bush/Cheney/Lieberman defacto threats of genocide against their people. What a great guy!
July 18th, 2007 at 1:07 am"Bush is going to bomb Iran. There is nothing the Dems can do to stop him. They will probably vote for the measure"
You KNOW how many troops will be needed, right? And you still won't join up. You are kind of a girly-man, aren't you?
July 18th, 2007 at 1:07 amComment by Egreggious — July 18, 2007 @ 1:04 am
Thank you very much, I appreciate it. I put a lot of work into that one, set it aside for a while, took it out again, and decided I liked it. And the original really is one of my favorites. I hope Marty forgives me. I hear he knows sumpin' about those gun thingies.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:07 amBilly, zip up your pants, put your momma's picture away and listen to Sen Harkin.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:08 am"This might actually help get something done."
lol, right.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:08 amJoin up, Billy. I promise I won't cheer when you die.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:10 amSen. Harkin was standing right behind Howard Dean when he made his "YEAHHH" speech.
Pathetic.
Tom Coburn just delivered a great speech. Eat it, Dems!
July 18th, 2007 at 1:10 amhehe....thanks Jpark!
well the Bloody Maryseses are taking effect..
Keep it goin y'all!
night!
July 18th, 2007 at 1:10 amI think the Republics should drag out the phone books.
At least we'd hear some different words.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:10 amtime to put your W doll to bed, billy; put your pants on
July 18th, 2007 at 1:11 amSenator Turbin Durbin said that the Senate should spend a sleepness night because our Brave soliders have spent many. That said can someone tell me why they brought in cots?
July 18th, 2007 at 1:11 amwhat are you scared of Billy. Scared of a vote?
July 18th, 2007 at 1:11 amI fought in korea jpark. You should join up instead of having gay love with a Massachussets Congressman.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:11 amdavidlowercase... tom harkin (D) is speaking now... the rules for this session aren't clear to me, but it doesn't seem like the old strom thurmond filibuster of the civil rights act of '57 where he and only he spoke for more than 24 hours. in this case, the dems and reps are alternating while they talk all night... there seems to be an undisclosed schedule by which the senators will speak, and i was just wondering when obama was coming up.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:11 amG'night, Fresh!
July 18th, 2007 at 1:12 amMaybe to al qaeda. That is what you hope, anyway. It’s not going to happen, bastard.
Comment by Billy
I get the feeling "billy" is actually The Joker. Same syntax, same inability w/ even basic spelling, same silly schoolyard taunts.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:12 amHah!! Billy, you just used Tom Coburn and great speech in the same sentence. You are talented!!! Or just an idiot.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:13 amBilly had to run and get tissue.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:13 amHey even on guard duty I had a cot to catch a couple of winks. When they bring in the LaZboys, then I will worry.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:13 amYou should join up instead of having gay love with a Massachussets Congressman.
Comment by Billy — July 18, 2007 @ 1:11 am
Why does it have to be one or the other?
Everything's black or white with you guys.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:13 amOklahoma is funny in a chaw-spitting, sister-banging way.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:13 amKorea you say billy. Have you met Jake?
July 18th, 2007 at 1:13 amGoodnight, whitey!
July 18th, 2007 at 1:13 amColburn admitted it's not based on facts, and yet so confident of the outcome. The same false speculation is what got us there in the firsyt place.
What if you're wrong again? We can totally leave without the consequences you claim are absolute. Your hypotheticals have been proven wrong before. It is likely that you are wrong with your prediction.
July 18th, 2007 at 1:14 amLol. It must be an automated troll. Either that or he’s got a series of canned comments saved in a text file that he just pastes in every 5 minutes.
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