Google’s neocon publicist.
Google’s neocon publicist.
Valleywag points out that Google’s spokesman, Australian Rob Shilkin, penned several pieces four years ago praising the Iraq war. From a June 20, 2003 article:
Yet the members of Australia’s anti-war brigade still refuse to accept that this has all happened. Ever since the fall of Baghdad, they have been bitterly carping from the sidelines. The current furore over Iraq’s “missing” weapons of mass-destruction is the latest effort from among their ranks.
This particular issue has been dressed up as a debate on flawed intelligence reports. But no one could sensibly assert that the West fabricated Saddam’s WMD ambitions.
Valleywag adds, “Google, more than ever, needs brassy PR people who aren’t afraid to assert boldly that black is white, ignorance is freedom, and evil is good.”
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google going to hell in a handbasket… power corrupts and money corrupts even better… et tu, brutus…?
And, yes, I DO take it personally
July 18th, 2007 at 11:10 pmHmm, did he ever sign up to go fight? No? Keyboard warrior?
July 18th, 2007 at 11:14 pmBy June of 2003 (actually, well before June of 2003), we were reasonably certain that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs to speak of.
The one thing the poor guy got right: “The winds of change in the Middle East are gradually and painfully starting to blow.”
Indeed.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:16 pmBut no one could sensibly assert that the West fabricated Saddam’s WMD ambitions…
But can sensibly assert that the Bush WH deliberately cherry-picked and slanted the intel to justify their 2003 invasion.
Oh, BTW, PiPpy, how’s that “Moslem” thing… snicker-snicker-ouch…
working out for ya?
…snicker-ouch-snicker-ouch-snicker…
July 18th, 2007 at 11:16 pmIn any case, with all due respect to this site, I don’t think this merits the attention. All sorts of companies, including the company I work for, have nutjobs working for them. What makes this one special enough to warrant the attention, particularly in light of the fact that we’re really just talking about two articles from four years ago? Yeah, the guy’s a loon. So what?
July 18th, 2007 at 11:19 pmGoogle is apparently doing evil everyday–contrary to their corporate slogan. Worldwide censorship not enough for you? Let’s hire friends of Rove, Feith, Kristol and all the rest to capture our searches and excuse the agenda. God, I am so fed up. These greedy jerks have no morals and they are only out for money. When do you have enough money? Never, I guess.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:23 pm#6 I concur PaulB
I spent 21 years in the AF with guys like this…I saw people like this all the time. They can’t help it if their…well…wrong.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:25 pmPer my #8
shoulda been they’re
July 18th, 2007 at 11:28 pmhttp://www.scroogle.com
THE google-scraper.
All the benefits without the data-mining.
Think: screw-google dot com!
July 18th, 2007 at 11:31 pm…make that http://www.scroogle.org...
sorry
July 18th, 2007 at 11:37 pmthe site from the link in post #10 does not look very healthy,
July 18th, 2007 at 11:37 pmcare to explain, Not Canadian?
According to Charles Dueffler’s report, Saddam did have WMD ambitions.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:41 pmFor more on Google’s latest forays into the political world, including its expanded DC lobbying presence and its periodic penchant for de facto content censorship, see:
July 18th, 2007 at 11:42 pm“Google Gets Political.”
He is just a dumb-ass Aussie who needs his butt kicked badly.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:43 pmGoogle, more than ever, needs brassy PR people who aren’t afraid to assert boldly that black is white, ignorance is freedom, and evil is good.
Well, if blockheads is what Google was really looking for, they could have hired any of the brain dead trolls that pollute the threads here at ThinkProgress.
Unlike Mr. Shilkin, who probably charges a pretty penny for writing bold-faced lies, these Bush cultists would do it for free. Misspells and poor syntax come at no extra charge.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:43 pmAccording to Charles Dueffler’s report, Saddam did have WMD ambitions.
Comment by Jake
He also had WMDs once upon a time, he bought a bunch from Rumsfeld, remember?
July 18th, 2007 at 11:44 pmhttp://www.gpoaccess.gov/duelfer/index.html
July 18th, 2007 at 11:44 pmThis is another reminder of the mis truth bias we all have to be alert towards.
Here’s another: According to Rachael Maddow, c-span and NYT reported “ The democrats failed to get enough votes towards withdrawal” instead of how it should be reported: “The republicans blocked votes towards withdrawal in Iraq .“
July 18th, 2007 at 11:46 pmRemnants of WMD were found — the rest may have been hidden or transported over the border:
“ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place” but also acknowledging that “ISG was unable to complete its investigation and is unable to rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war.”
July 18th, 2007 at 11:48 pmthat explains why google had an exclusive interview with Hillco
July 18th, 2007 at 11:49 pmComment by Jake — July 18, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
According to Pres Bush, Iraq needed to be invaded because he had reconstituted his nuclear program, and had stockpiles of WMD. It was asserted as a fact, not gossip.
All these claims were put to rest by the Duelfer report.
That you feel the invasion is justified because “remnants” were found, and that you find comfort in the highly unlikely scenario that Iraq’s WMD were spirited away into Syria is laughable.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:50 pmCaption:
Hi!
July 18th, 2007 at 11:50 pmI’m Googles Minister of Propaganda, and in my spare time I like to hang out at Think Progress as a troll.
You can tell from my red-rimmed, shifty eyes, and my sh!t eating grin, that I spend a lot of time in a poorly lit basement eating Doritos and drinking Mountain Dew.
My favorite screen name is Mr. pResident, but I have lots of others as well.
I never graduated (from high school), but my best friend Karl told me that doesn’t matter, as long as I can spin yarns so well!
3600 US soldiers had to die because of “Saddam’s WMD ambitions?”
July 18th, 2007 at 11:51 pmAmong the remnants discovered:
1) In a joint Energy and Defense Department operation, 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium and approximately 1000 highly radioactive sources were secured from Iraq’s former nuclear research facility, packaged and then airlifted on June 23, 2003: “This operation was a major achievement for the Bush Administration’s goal to keep potentially dangerous nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists,” Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham said in the statement. “It also puts this material out of reach for countries that may seek to develop their own nuclear weapons.”
2) 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents U.S. troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said.
3) 17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas) “Laboratory tests showed the presence in them of cyclosarin, a very toxic gas, five times stronger than sarin and five times more durable,” Bieniek told Poland’s TVN24 at the force’s Camp Babylon headquarters. “If these warheads, which were still usable, were used on a military base like Camp Babylon, they would have caused unforeseeable damage.”
4) Bombs loaded with mustard and “conventional” sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:52 pmGoogle’s neocon publicist.
Valleywag points out that Google’s spokesman, Australian Rob Shilkin, penned several pieces four years ago praising the Iraq war. From a June 20, 2003 article:
And Kilo points out that so did Joe Wilson, if this is somehow relevant in identifying random irrelevant people as neocon 2003 war supporters 4 years after the fact.
Got an ideas what Ford’s spokesman thinks about Roe vs Wade ?
PS. Love the concept. That maybe you can google something that google couldn’t when it comes to who they hire.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:52 pmComment by Jake — July 18, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
List away, indefatigable water carrier.
Iraq was not invaded over remnants of WMD. End of story.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:53 pmAmbition or intent isn’t the same as possession Jakey. Back in your hole, Troll.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:53 pmNext!
For the record, if 3600 US soldiers had not made the ultimate sacrifice defending America, it is more likely that 3 million Americans would have been killed here in terrorist attacks.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:55 pmJim Wolf359:
Which items on the WMD list do you contend Saddam did not have possession of?
July 18th, 2007 at 11:56 pm“Ambitions” and “remnants” may be good enough for bloodthirsty trolls, but they are not good enough to justify 3600+ troop deaths.
July 18th, 2007 at 11:59 pm“For the record, if 3600 US soldiers had not made the ultimate sacrifice defending America, it is more likely that 3 million Americans would have been killed here in terrorist attacks.
Comment by Jake — July 18, 2007″
that’s total crap. but what should we expect from someone who stated the following:
“Anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss the specifics of how an OB/GYN can examine the hymen on females, or any other possible options, let me know.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:00 amComment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 11:05 pmâ€
For the record, if 3600 US soldiers had not made the ultimate sacrifice defending America, it is more likely that 3 million Americans would have been killed here in terrorist attacks.
Comment by Jake
“More likely” is the new “imminent threat.”
Change your shorts, Jake.
You smell like ass.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:01 amcnn, january ‘05:
“The United States is taking steps to determine how it received erroneous intelligence that deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was developing and stockpiling nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Wednesday.”
July 19th, 2007 at 12:01 amFor the record, the topic of that thread was about abstinence and included options on determining the virginity of teens. If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss that, or the topic of this thread, please feel free to ask me any question.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:02 amIf 3 million Americans are killed here in terrorist attacks, the Bush haters will suddenly switch gears back to “not connecting the dots”.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:03 ampresident bush:
“the main reason we went into Iraq at the time was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn’t”
July 19th, 2007 at 12:03 amI googled “Jake” and that also brought up nonsense and garbage.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:04 amOnce again: “ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place†but also acknowledging that “ISG was unable to complete its investigation and is unable to rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war.â€
July 19th, 2007 at 12:05 am“If 3 million Americans are killed here in terrorist attacks, the Bush haters will suddenly switch gears back to “not connecting the dotsâ€.”
Comment by Jake
Why would Jake wish the deaths of americans to make a political point?
That’s sick.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:06 amIt’s kinda funny that a liberal-biased organization like Google is getting attacked by leftie moonbats — same as Cindy Sheehan running against Nancy Pelosi — RUN, CINDY, RUN!!!
July 19th, 2007 at 12:06 am“missing” weapons of mass destruction. . .hahahahaha!
July 19th, 2007 at 12:07 amfor any interested lurkers who want to read about a (supposedly) 75-year-old man discussing “specifics of how an OB/GYN can examine the hymen on females”, here’s the thread:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/13/abstinence-only-programs-have-failed/#comments
he’s not just an apologist troll, he’s a really creepy apologist troll.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:07 amFor the record, I would be trying to help the victims of such a tragic attack — those Bush haters who switch gears back to “not connecting the dots†would be the ones taking advantage of the situation to make a political point.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:08 am“leftie moonbats…”
Smoeone’s constructed a little bubble of steroypical thinking around himself, to shield his fragile ego from the vicissitudes of living in the real world…
Cliche’d thought is the first sign of a third-rate mentality.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:10 amAs I stated, I was pointing out the truth as to abstinence-only programs. Someone asked HOW you could determine virginity, so I answered the question. For the record, I did not bring up that subject (at least as much as others here have in completely unrelated threads ; )
July 19th, 2007 at 12:10 amJake is speaking blather and nonsense, as per usual.
Hey, Mr President! That’s you in 50 years — take note.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:11 amComment by Jake — July 18, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
Low-enriched uranium is not -I repeat, is not- a WMD.
17 warheads do not a stockpile of WMD make.
Also, I couldn’t help but to notice that the chemicals were discovered in Mosul (that would be in the Kurdish region of Iraq). Hussein had little or no control over that region, and the lab where the chemicals were found was suspected to be new, dating from after the US invasion of Iraq.
And again, chemicals without delivery system do not WMD make.
List away, little indefatigable water carrier.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:11 am“For the record, I would be trying to help the victims of such a tragic attack ”
The third-rate mentality shines through…
July 19th, 2007 at 12:12 amLOL — as if Cindy Sheehan was NOT a ““leftie moonbat” until she bit the hand that fed her?
RUN, CINDY, RUN!!!
July 19th, 2007 at 12:12 am“Here’s another: According to Rachael Maddow, c-span and NYT reported “ The democrats failed to get enough votes towards withdrawal†instead of how it should be reported: “The republicans blocked votes towards withdrawal in Iraq .“
Actually it should have read “The Republics filibustered the Levin/Reed bill to bring our troops home”. What is it with the word filibuster. Has it become the media’s “F” word? When the Democrats were threatening to filibuster Bush’s neoCON Judges, the MSM screamed “filibuster”. Now it’s “blocked”, not filibustered. How disingenuous can you get? It’s that damn liberal media that is doing it.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:13 amFor the record, if 3600 US soldiers had not made the ultimate sacrifice defending America, it is more likely that 3 million Americans would have been killed here in terrorist attacks.
Comment by Jake — July 18, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
… by the BEE PEOPLE.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:13 amIf you guys would feel confortable with al Qaeda having 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium in your neighborhood, I want some of what you’re smoking.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:14 amFor the record, if 3600 US soldiers had not made the ultimate sacrifice defending America, it is more likely that 3 million Americans would have been killed here in terrorist attacks.
Comment by Jake
For the record…. only those that actually die on Iraqi soil are counted.. the others en route to the hospital or after arriving to the hospital are not counted as they die … about 8 X your number.
it is more likely that 3 million Americans would have been killed here in terrorist attacks WTF is that???? You are so full of bull… Someday you may be right as we will get ours after the EVIL DEEDS WE HAVE DONE to that part of the world.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:14 am“Also, I couldn’t help but to notice that the chemicals were discovered in Mosul (that would be in the Kurdish region of Iraq).”
That’s the area which was just bombed by Turkey, using Bush’s “imminent threat” rationale to justify their actions.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:14 amFor the record, anybody who accuses Google of being a liberal-biased organisation is beyond stupid.
I supposed Google now has garnered the label because their search engine returns facts and stuff -and those have a well-known liberal bias.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:15 am“Here’s another: According to Rachael Maddow, c-span and NYT reported “ The democrats failed to get enough votes towards withdrawal†instead of how it should be reported: “The republicans blocked votes towards withdrawal in Iraq .“
The democrats failed to get enough votes towards withdrawal, I guess, because they didn’t get LIEberman’s (I) vote.
It was the Republics that failed to get enough votes towards withdrawal.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:16 amOk, Jake wins. This time the score was 26 out of 51 posts either posted by him or by people responding to him. That’s more than 50% of the posts in one thread.
Jake the troll wins….those who are here for some intelligent discourse lose.
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
July 19th, 2007 at 12:17 amWhat the f@#*???
It was by using Google that I knew the West –that is, Bush & Blair– had fabricated the whole WMD thing. I was able to access indie sources, blogs, and commentary from people who knew what was up in Iraq and what people like Blix of the UN were saying ‘off the record’.
If Google has decided it’s gonna join the propaganda machine, then I say it’s time to pull its plug. I say send them the way of AOL. They built a brand based on net neutrality and broad access to all the Web. If that’s not what they’re about any more, I say they should stop pretending.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:21 amOk, Jake wins. This time the score was 26 out of 51 posts either posted by him or by people responding to him. That’s more than 50% of the posts in one thread.
Jake the troll wins….those who are here for some intelligent discourse lose.
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
Comment by Katie
Amazing. Little pinhead Jakie managed to divert the discussion from Google to utterly irrelevant b.s. about WMD without even trying.
Why even respond to this assh0le?
July 19th, 2007 at 12:21 amNow, if it could be shown that WMDs were spirited away to say, Syria, that to me would seem to indicate yet another failure of this ill-advised invasion and of the Neo-Cons who wetted themselves in its undertaking.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:23 amComment by Egreggious — July 19, 2007 @ 12:23 am
Failure to find them, failure to secure them, and failure to intercept them.
Yep, sounds like the Bush administration alright.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:27 amIt’s a story about Media access and Freedom of the Press. I think it’s important to know that the First Amendment is not passive. Without actively protecting the Free Press from becoming a monopoly –see Rupert Murdoch, or the propaganda wing of a party or a corporation, one must ensure that the Media cannot be manipulated. This can be done by preventing concentration, promoting diversity and competition, and funding a public broadcaster.
BTW, 40 years ago the White House would have been very concerned if a Murdoch was buying the WSJ. Now, the only people who seem concerned are the employees who fear and end of their journalistic freedom. How odd!
July 19th, 2007 at 12:29 amActually it should have read “The Republics filibustered the Levin/Reed bill to bring our troops homeâ€. What is it with the word filibuster. Has it become the media’s “F†word? When the Democrats were threatening to filibuster Bush’s neoCON Judges, the MSM screamed “filibusterâ€.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:30 amI would bet 75% of our population does not understand filibuster and it is left out to simplify the news. Sad. Still, they should say “Republicans blocked vote on withdrawal from Iraq” rather than the “Democrats could not get enough votes.”
I feel I must defend Jake a bit.
The TP article contained the following line:
But no one could sensibly assert that the West fabricated Saddam’s WMD ambitions.
This was the only part of the article TP highligted.
“Ambitions” is a pretty wishy-washy word. How could anyione but Saddam truly know what his ambitions were? I’ll give Jake the benefit of the doubt that he was making an honest mistake (due to having incomplete facts) about the nature of Saddam’s “ambitions”.
Those who cling to this war do so on false pemises, and I don’t feel it is wrong to debate this.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:30 amYep, sounds like the Bush administration alright.
Comment by Gregor Samsa
The Gentleman C’s. It’s not that they’re really incompetent, they’re just too lazy to give a sh*t.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:31 amMake that Gentlemen C’s.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:33 amComment by had enough — July 19, 2007 @ 12:30 am
They didn’t bother to use the word “obstruction” either, it seems.
Gotta love that librul media!
July 19th, 2007 at 12:33 amIf you guys would feel confortable with al Qaeda having 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium in your neighborhood, I want some of what you’re smoking.
I personally would NOT feel “confortable” with al Qaeda having 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium in my neighborhood. I would be very disturbed to know that customs was that lax, and it would be almost as bad as living near a nuclear reactor after an earthquake.
Let’s see, if there are 2,000 Al Qaeda members, they would each only need to make one or two trips into the country carrying a pound each of enrhiched uranium, and then for phase two of their plan, slowly move it into Brooklyn and blend in seamlessly with the Puerto Rican / Dominican population. Or maybe they can pass themselves off as hipsters.
I don’t need to smoke anything when I can LMAO at ideas like this. I do hear that in some people it can cause paranoia.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:33 am“But no one could sensibly assert that the West fabricated Saddam’s WMD ambitions.” No, sh!tforbrains, we manufactured his actual WMD — in order for him to use on the Kurdish rebels we then accused him of doing. The rest of which were destroyed by inspectors before Chuckle Nuts decided not to worry much about bin Laden and turned his evil eye to Baghdad.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:35 amThose who cling to this war do so on false pemises, and I don’t feel it is wrong to debate this.
Comment by Egreggious
Jake’s still a prick.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:38 amJake’s still a prick.
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 12:38 am
I’m sorry if i implied that he wasn’t.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:39 amIt looks like Gregor sent Jake running off crying anyway.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:40 amThe War was not over vague ‘ambitions’, but Saddam’s supposed possession of WMD and the supposed capability –in the famous sexed-up dossier– of attacking with 45 minutes. This was false and could sensibly be proved to be false. And the so-called smoking gun of a mushroom cloud? Well, that too could be sensibly proved as false. Saddam may have wanted nuclear weapons, but all legitimate intelligence had said he had given up on seeking them. And the yellowcake forgeries most likely came form Cheney’s gang.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:43 amHow could anyione but Saddam truly know what his ambitions were?
Comment by Egreggious — July 19, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Good point.
However, Iraq was not invaded because of Hussein’s much-speculated ambitions. The US sold the case for war because Iraq was a grave, gathering threat to its neighbors and to the world. Hussein was amassing the world’s “most dangerous weapons”. I trust we all remember Powell’s presentation to the UN.
And that is where Shilkin is being disingenuous, and moving the goal posts. In one paragraph he talks about “intentions”, and in the next he talks about the WMD as if they were a fact. All the while trying to make you forget the horror this occupation has brought on Iraqis by talking about it as a “liberation”.
Shilkin is the prototypical con-man. He talks fast, and a lot. It doesn’t matter to him if he is being coherent as long a she can make you buy what he sells.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:43 amI’m sorry if i implied that he wasn’t.
Comment by Egreggious
Oh no, Egg, just re-affirming for myself. :)
July 19th, 2007 at 12:44 amComment by Gregor Samsa — July 19, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Comment by david — July 19, 2007 @ 12:43 am
You guys are right on, as usual.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:46 amI like this from Shilkin’s 2003 article:
“The war in Iraq succeeded despite immense pressure from the Old Europeans, Russians, Chinese, the UN Secretary General and leftist parties worldwide.”
Misson accomplished indeed!
July 19th, 2007 at 12:49 amWhy does a guy like Shilkin want to work for Google?
July 19th, 2007 at 12:50 amMDD
Mountain Dew Defense
July 19th, 2007 at 12:51 amWhy does a guy like Shilkin want to work for Google?
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 12:50 am
I bet ace would know. :D
July 19th, 2007 at 12:51 amMDD
Mountain Dew Defense
Comment by Egreggious
Heh. I meant to ask you what that meant earlier. :)
July 19th, 2007 at 12:52 amNot exactly prescient, this Shilkin:
Initially, when the war was not over in two weeks, the battle “not going according to plan”- the Allies had underestimated the strength of Iraq’s defences. That line lasted for about a week.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:52 am* * *
Subsequently, we saw the spectacle of the anti-war movement weeping over Iraq’s stolen antiques -the looting demonstrated that the US condoned cultural vandalism and spilled blood for oil. “America only cares about Iraq’s oil”, they yelled, even as the humanitarian aid poured in and the US promised that Iraq’s oil would be used exclusively for the benefit of Iraqis.
* * *
Morally and strategically, opponents to the war should now leave the issue well alone and admit that the liberation of Iraq has been an almost unqualified success.
Actually I have trouble with the TP editor. I type it correctly but the letters get dropped. Does this happen to you too?
July 19th, 2007 at 12:54 amMountain Dew: WSD
Weapon of Stomach Destruction
July 19th, 2007 at 12:55 amMorally and strategically, opponents to the war should now leave the issue well alone and admit that the liberation of Iraq has been an almost unqualified success.
Comment by impeachy keen — July 19, 2007 @ 12:52 am
As Rosie O’Donnell would say, “DEE-LU-SION-ALLL!”
July 19th, 2007 at 12:55 amWhy does a guy like Shilkin want to work for Google?
I’m sure the $$$$$ played a large factor.
Why does a company like Google want to hire a guy like Shilkin? Perhaps they plan to engage in unscrupulous activities and need someone who will defend any kind of foul play tooth and nail, no matter how obnoxious or unethical.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:57 amIf I ran a country, and I knew I was going to be invaded, the first thing I would do is give away my best weapons…
July 19th, 2007 at 12:59 amYou guys are right on, as usual.
Comment by Egreggious — July 19, 2007 @ 12:46 am
Thanks, Egreggious…. I try ;-)
The silliness of Shilkin’s column begins, IMO, with the title. He is blaming the “intelligence failure” meme on… the war critics!
We all know it was the Bush administration who came up with that sorry excuse to explain their inability to find Iraq’s WMD, and they have been hiding behind it ever since. But in Shilkin’s “up is down” world, it is those who oppose the war who use that term to “discredit the great work in Iraq”. What a perplexing statement.
I like this tidbit too:
The honourable thing for the opponents of Iraqi Freedom to have done was to swallow their pride and admit that the operation was far more successful than imagined. It caused fewer casualties than feared and was jubilantly welcomed by Iraqis.
I said it before and I will say it again: These warmongers should quit their jobs and become psychics, learn to write horoscopes, read palms and tea leaves. They’d be just as wrong in their predictions, but an awful lot of people would still be alive.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:59 amActually I have trouble with the TP editor. I type it correctly but the letters get dropped. Does this happen to you too?
Comment by Egreggious
No. I just can’t use the formatting buttons on this computer. Whatever I type shows up.
July 19th, 2007 at 12:59 amWhy does a company like Google want to hire a guy like Shilkin? Perhaps they plan to engage in unscrupulous activities and need someone who will defend any kind of foul play tooth and nail, no matter how obnoxious or unethical.
Comment by impeachy keen — July 19, 2007 @ 12:57 am
He certainly seems qualified for that.
Bet it beats his old job at Burger King.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:00 amMountain Dew: WSD
Weapon of Stomach Destruction
Comment by Raven
Oy, no kidding. Ugh.
I don’t drink the stuff, it’s just in this keyboard — hence the MDD. :)
July 19th, 2007 at 1:01 amNo. I just can’t use the formatting buttons on this computer. Whatever I type shows up.
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 12:59 am
I can’t use the buttons either.
Fortunately I know a little HTML.
I wonder why the buttons don’t work for me.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:01 amIt could be AIPAC, I suppose.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:03 am[Shilkin] Morally and strategically, opponents to the war should now leave the issue well alone and admit that the liberation of Iraq has been an almost unqualified success.
Comment by impeachy keen
That ain’t happening….
July 19th, 2007 at 1:03 amThat ain’t happening….
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 1:03 am
This was 4 years ago he wrote this.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:05 amI wonder why the buttons don’t work for me.
Comment by Egreggious
I’m just too lazy to keep typing them in. :)
At home I have dialup, Firefox, and can use the buttons. Here, I have highspeed and IE, but can’t use the buttons.
Go figure…
July 19th, 2007 at 1:06 amIraq, an almost unqualified success.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:07 amThis was 4 years ago he wrote this.
Comment by Egreggious
Still ain’t happening. I don’t know who this guy thinks he is.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:08 amWhy do his opinions matter?
I wonder if Firefox is the key.
Do you like Firefox better? I don’t know much about it.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:08 amWhy do his opinions matter?
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 1:08 am
I don’t know. I’ll Google it and see if I can find out.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:09 amThe honourable thing for the opponents of Iraqi Freedom to have done was to swallow their pride and admit that the operation was far more successful than imagined. It caused fewer casualties than feared and was jubilantly welcomed by Iraqis.
Come on, admit it, Iraq turned out AWESOME!
Maybe this reverse perspective is an Australian thing, you know, like how water runs down the drain counter-clockwise?
July 19th, 2007 at 1:09 amI don’t drink the stuff, it’s just in this keyboard — hence the MDD. :)
Comment by Zooey
Oh yeah, I heard about thattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
July 19th, 2007 at 1:10 amSeveral of us figured out that TP seems to work better with Firefox. Not sure why. No annoying popups! And a lot of cool add-ons that I don’t understand at all, except the weather bar. Like that one. :)
July 19th, 2007 at 1:11 am… and was jubilantly welcomed by Iraqis.
And then the jubilation devolved into a civil war.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:11 amSorry. #105 is for the Egg.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:12 amMaybe this reverse perspective is an Australian thing, you know, like how water runs down the drain counter-clockwise?
Comment by impeachy keen
That must be it…. :D
July 19th, 2007 at 1:12 amMaybe this reverse perspective is an Australian thing, you know, like how water runs down the drain counter-clockwise?
Comment by impeachy keen — July 19, 2007 @ 1:09 am
Unfortunately the same problem exists here north of the equator.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:13 amOh yeah, I heard about thattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Comment by Raven
Heh.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:14 amIs Firefox free?
July 19th, 2007 at 1:14 amIs Firefox free?
Comment by Egreggious
Yes! Go to firefox.com and download it.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:15 amMaybe this reverse perspective is an Australian thing [...]
Comment by impeachy keen — July 19, 2007 @ 1:09 am
LOL
Although Murdoch is originally from Australia too. He also was a big cheerleader of the invasion.
Maybe you are on to something… hhmm….. ;-)
July 19th, 2007 at 1:15 amYes! Go to firefox.com and download it.
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 1:15 am
Hey, you’re not CT, you can’t tell me what to do.
Sorry, knee-jerk reaction.
Thanks. I’ll check it out.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:16 amHey, you’re not CT, you can’t tell me what to do.
Sorry, knee-jerk reaction.
Thanks. I’ll check it out.
Comment by Egreggious
You have been instructed…..heh, sorry.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:19 amUnfortunately the same problem exists here north of the equator. Comment by Egreggious
So much for junk science! ;)
July 19th, 2007 at 1:20 amZooey,
Did you happen to check out that video of the College Republicans I linked to on another thread? It was teh funny (never used teh before).
I couldn’t help thinking of our trolls as I watched it, all of them giving their mousy excuses why they couldn’t join the military.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:22 amI couldn’t help thinking of our trolls as I watched it, all of them giving their mousy excuses why they couldn’t join the military.
Comment by Egreggious
I don’t remember seeing it. Was that last night?
July 19th, 2007 at 1:24 amI don’t remember seeing it. Was that last night?
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Here it is.
HTML, HTML, HTML.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:26 am‘Nite y’all!
July 19th, 2007 at 1:27 amGoodnight, keen! Thanks for the insights.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:30 amHere is an LA Times article about that insurgent leader we just captured.
I have to go read it again. It’s bizarre.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:31 amComment by Egreggious — July 19, 2007 @ 1:26 am
Oh my god, that’s unbelievable. Those kids are so spoiled.
You know what else is unbelievable? Tom DeLay! If all those little babies hadn’t been aborted, we wouldn’t need illegal immigrants to do those jobs. Jeebus…..
July 19th, 2007 at 1:39 amYou know what else is unbelievable? Tom DeLay! If all those little babies hadn’t been aborted, we wouldn’t need illegal immigrants to do those jobs. Jeebus…..
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 1:39 am
It’s scary times.
I’m in the middle of responding to a “Plame-was-outed” denier on the Matthews-Miller thread.
It’s probably just a Pee alter ego.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:42 amThere is a fresh poll out today that has the Democratic congress with only a 14% approval rating.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:44 amThere is a fresh poll out today that has the Democratic congress with only a 14% approval rating.
Comment by Jim — July 19, 2007 @ 1:44 am
Thanks, Jim. Those Poles can be really fresh sometimes.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:45 amIt’s probably just a Pee alter ego.
Comment by Egreggious
I’ll be there!
July 19th, 2007 at 1:45 amComment by Egreggious
just read the article… incredible….
July 19th, 2007 at 1:55 amSent a link to Ray Taliaferro, host on KGO at 1am pst tonight.
Can it, Jim.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:57 amIf all those little babies hadn’t been aborted, we wouldn’t need illegal immigrants to do those jobs. Jeebus…..
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 1:39 am
I also thought that comment was beyond he pale. Not to mention the absurd implication that all the women who abort are necessarily poor, and their children will grow up to work those minimum wage jobs illegal immigrants currently hold.
What a waste of human flesh. Of course, the crowd agreed.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:59 amWhat a waste of human flesh. Of course, the crowd agreed.
Comment by Gregor Samsa
All I could think was that we’d just have 40 million extra spoiled Americans, and immigrants still doing the work.
July 19th, 2007 at 2:13 amAh yes, when the polls support a Republican viewpoint they are trumpeted. When they don’t they are ridiculed.
Imagine being happy that people think other people are as big a pack of losers as your guy.
Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations.
-GSD
July 19th, 2007 at 2:18 amRepublicans are thinking about all of the prospective prostitutes and congressional pages who have been aborted and it kills them. So little time, so many vicitms.
-GSD
July 19th, 2007 at 2:20 amProof Bin Laden Tape Is 5-Year-Old, Re-Released Footage
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/180707oldfootage.htm
Bin Laden DOES NOT EXIST.
The media and the government are clearly complicit in spreading disinformation. They are setting you up to be attacked by Cheney/Chertoff – and softening up your mind in order to blame it on a guy who does not exists – AGAIN.
July 19th, 2007 at 3:29 amHow low can the Dems go in approval rating? Will they be at 10% at the end of the week?
July 19th, 2007 at 3:52 am>Which items on the WMD list do you contend
> Saddam did not have possession of?
Which items on the WMD “remnants” list do you contend wern’t leftovers from the Iran-Iraq war, and which were sold to him by american and british companies with the knowledge of the government of your breadhead zombie hero reagan?
Everyone new he had WMD. We sold the shiite to him. The real question was did he have new WMD that wasnt sold to him by us. He didnt. End of story, you deluded catf@cker…
July 19th, 2007 at 4:29 amHere in Oz we have a bunch of neocons that have gone all the way with Dubya and his avenging angels in Iraq – OK our commitment of forces on the ground has been a political token. But as for the latest security assessments coming from the White house about Al Quaeda growing in strength, well the Oz neocons tell us they are wrong: it is obvious that the war in Iraq has significantly diminished the capabilities of Al Quaeda. This is based on nothing more than fervent belief and some sort of twisted logic in a world where ‘if you say it three times, it must be true’
July 19th, 2007 at 4:50 amI thought they were telling the truth when they said Saddam had WMDs.
I also thought that it didn’t matter if he did have WMDs.
Talk of WMDs was designed to stampede the herd into war, and to distract people away from engaging in an intelligent discussion about how to help Iraqis.
Rob Shilkin’s comment is also designed to stop intelligent discussion.
July 19th, 2007 at 5:26 amAustralia’s Prime Minister, John Howard, and ex-Australian media magnate, Rupert Murdoch, might have put salt on the tails of Bush and Co regarding the idea of invading Iraq.
I’m Australian, and I’m sorry Australians did this.
July 19th, 2007 at 5:40 amThat’s a pretty retarded statement even for here.
The Australian PM might have convinced or encouraged the US to invade Iraq, with a statement that didn’t refer to Iraq, the day after 9/11 when nobody was talking about invading Iraq ?
Wow.
You know, you might want to track down the Australian PMs statements back in 1939. See if the Aussies were putting ideas into anyone elses head back then. Idiot.
Well okay. Due to the time difference though he would have been saying this after every other world leader from France through to Lichtenstein said the same thing ? Idiot.
You think maybe anyone else might have given the completely disinterested US the idea to retaliate for 9/11 ?
Gee if only the rest of the world had STFU the US might have forgotten about the whole thing. Idiot.
Again, as did all the rest of the world’s leaders. A strange coincidence to be sure. It’s almost as though reporters world wide had a specific news story they were asking questions about on the day after 9/11. Idiot.
Which he said a good year after the Iraq invasion, which amounted to giving the US this idea to the same degree that Howard did.
And Australia is sorry you’re a citizen.
July 19th, 2007 at 6:10 amSeriously, you think there’s some Sierra Leone citizens somewhere apologizing for enabling the coalition that invaded Iraq ? Idiot.
Australian, huh? Just what kind of visa does he have?
Is it one of those “H” whatevers that the California Rethuglican Party used to hire an immigrant?
July 19th, 2007 at 6:48 amWhatever you do, don’t install the Google toolbar unless you want everything you do online recorded and reported to some thinktank. I’d heard that Google Search was already doing that – supplying people’s search information to the government so this doesn’t surprise me at all. Time to eliminate google from my search engines!
July 19th, 2007 at 7:18 amBin Laden DOES NOT EXIST.
The media and the government are clearly complicit in spreading disinformation. They are setting you up to be attacked by Cheney/Chertoff – and softening up your mind in order to blame it on a guy who does not exists – AGAIN.
Comment by ace — July 19, 2007 @ 3:29 am
Yeah, Bin Laden exists ace. Who do you think is running America’s foreign policy of isolating America from its allies and uniting its enemies?
July 19th, 2007 at 7:41 amOff topic but had a thought of something we can begin to move us forward in a positive way and become involved in the unseating of ALL Republican liars and sychopants whose tenure ends in 08. Maybe we can get a list of those who will be running in 08 so we can begin encouraging good Democrats or Independents to run for their seats.
For starters, we can begin with MN – Both Pete Domenici and Norm Coleman will be losing their seats in 08 easily if anyone credible runs against them for their continued support of the war.
When does nitwit Mitch McConnell’s term expire? A cartoon character would be better than watching his twisted antics. He’s a total embarrassment to the american people and will definitel get the boot next time around.
Let’s get a list circulating of whose seats are “fair game” in 08. From there we can encourage everyone we know to run against them.
July 19th, 2007 at 7:45 amI could go either way whether Bin Laden exists, but Chimpy needs to put a face on the enemy (with a turbin), Just like we did with Hitler(with that narrow mustache), to rally the troops…smoke and mirrors baby!
July 19th, 2007 at 7:47 amBruce: Whether he exists or not as the boogeyman he’s made out to be IS the question here. You do realize that the BinLaden family and the Bush Family took vacations together and have been great friends for decades, don’t you? You also know that OBL’s brother was a business partner of the president, don’t you? Their intimate connections go wayyyyy back. You also know that BL worked for us (we trained him) to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. He was a double agent then so why is it so improbable that he couldn’t still be functioning as one today? Why do you find that so difficult to wrap your mind around? Answer: Because it’s so reprehensible and heinous that you wish not to. And that’s precisely why americans do not want to embrace the potential reality here – and that’s why so many people who believe that 911 was an inside job have much reason to believe so.
July 19th, 2007 at 7:48 amI’m beginning to see the interchanging face of OBL, Bush & Cheney. They’re probably all functioning as one. Prof Shorpshire may have hit the nail on the head….
July 19th, 2007 at 7:49 amJust got an email from a friend involved in politics in MN and they’ve said that the move to unseat both Domenici and Coleman is in the works.
July 19th, 2007 at 7:51 amBruce: I trust that your comment was sarcasm! Thanks for it because it got this thread moving again since it hasn’t moved since 11:04 last night.
July 19th, 2007 at 7:52 amIf anyone believes even for one moment that, if we truly wanted to get BL for taking down the WTC – regardless of where he was hiding – we couldn’t have then I’ve got some primo real estate in the south to sell you. Right – so we take our troops to Iraq when our intel informs us that he’s in Afghanistan. Geography lessons, Georgie Porgie??
July 19th, 2007 at 7:54 amThankfully, the truth is being revealed and the official story is now believed to be totally “bogus” by 40% of americans – and that number is growing daily as new information is revealed. As far as Busheviks are concerned, Truth IS the enemy and TMI will take them down. Guess what? Even without this new information, they’ve taken themselves handily down the toilet.
July 19th, 2007 at 7:56 amI don’t remember seeing it. Was that last night?
Comment by Zooey — July 19, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Here it is.
HTML, HTML, HTML.
Comment by Egreggious
Great video Egg. Well great as in informative, not great as in ‘Yay, College Republicans’. lol
July 19th, 2007 at 8:12 amI wanna know what really happened on 9/11!
Comment by Mr. President
9/11 never happened, sir.
July 19th, 2007 at 8:15 amIt was a hoax.
Sir.
Your apology will be coming out soon, sir.
July 19th, 2007 at 8:28 amPlease continue to follow Barney around the House,
as is your usual habit.
Here’s a baggie.
Sir.
Why post articles like this? Because its pay back time. Many people chose the wrong side…even though they had the same evidence we did… After being exposed and sneered at by their fellow workers maybe these people will choose reason over their egos next time…. maybe after being passed up on jobs and promotions they will think maybe I shouldnt have shilled for bush after all… after people call them out for trying to help destroy our Constitution maybe they will second guess the loud mouths from the government next time…
July 19th, 2007 at 8:56 am162 comments on this story? Must be a slow news day. Time to move on.
July 19th, 2007 at 9:06 amveritas
While I don’t know if it is due to Bush being a complete incompetent, or is actually doing it on purpose, but his every move since the start of the Iraq war seems to me to have been calculated towards losing the war on terror.
Think about it: He weakens America’s military capabilities by invading a non-urgent target – allowing the guy behind 3000 American deaths to get away.
He then sets about setting record deficits and doubling America’s debt – on a war which frankly nobody really knows the reasons for – and cuts taxes so as to avoid America finding the money to properly fund the war.
At the same time he works tirelessly to maintain the status quo on fossil fuels, the main source of income for the main funders of terrorism.
He then systematically allienates all of America’s allies, to the point where Italy withdraws over a friendly fire incident and Blair, who will go down in history as being Bush’s lapdog, says Britain won’t join America in an invasion of Iran. Poland said more or less the same thing, citing experiences in Iraq as being why.
Then, he hands America’s enemies a major world propaganda victory via his approval of torture (And yes, I realise it was mainly Congress that did this.)
At the same time he handicaps America’s intellegence gathering agencies, via outing shell companies (The whole Plamegate incident) and overloading them with worthless bunk (Via wiretapping America.)
To further make sure that US intellegence doesn’t find anything, there is a mass firing of gay staffers who just happen to speak the same language as the enemy.
Of course, the critical information that gets through, the stuff which really matters like how you are going wrong on the war front, is ignored.
In order to maximise the damage should a terrorist attack go off, Bush has also weakened FEMA and cut funding to maintaining measures designed to prevent major disasters, such as the levies in New Orleans.
He weakens America’s military leadership by firing those leaders who disagree with him, and then strengthens the enemy’s leadership by reporting them dead or captured on an average of every 2 months, only to have to later retract (Thus giving those leaders an aura of invincibility.)
Now, Osama exists. He was there long before Bush came in, he isn’t a new peril, the real question is, is Bush really against him?
July 19th, 2007 at 9:12 amVeritas,
I’m a Minnesotan, & you’re right on target.
Norm Coleman is already whining that Al Franken is getting money from the Hollywood elitists, and is asking Neoturds for cash. Norm’s worried, as he should be.
A recent report finds his college roommate disclosing Norm’s drug use during those days. Sounds like he was quite the party guy.
He moved to MN because he couldn’t make it in NY. He was a Democrat until he saw a chance to run for Mayor of St. Paul as a Repuke.
Norm is a hypocrite, a shape shifter, and has totally screwed up the office the honorable Paul Wellstone inhabited prior to being killed.
BTW, Dominici is from NM…
July 19th, 2007 at 9:19 amHi Kilo, when PM Howard made those statements on 9/11 offering support for the US, he was in Washington DC visiting neocon mate called George, a Texan fella that fronts the criminal administration for which you voted, Kilo. He fixed the problem of ‘terrorism’ real good. Gee thanks y’all.
July 19th, 2007 at 9:24 am“How low can the Dems go in approval rating? Will they be at 10% at the end of the week?
Comment by Jim”
Now that they have stopped playing nice with the Republics, I’m willing to bet the farm that their approval ratings goes way up.
By the way, why don’t they do a poll that asks what the public thinks of the Democrats in Congress or the Republics in Congress and not just what the public thinks of Congress as a whole. That would be a more realistic snapshot of how the Congress numbers play out. And then the neoCON trolls would not be able to say that the Democratic Congress has low poll numbers. Last time I checked, a little less than half of the members in the House are Republics.
July 19th, 2007 at 10:02 amEr… yeah. Payback. Against that guy you’ve never heard of before now, nor saw what he wrote in 2003, nor could you even remember the name of without checking the top of this page.
Got him a good one!
I ask again… what’s the position of the head of Ford’s PR on Roe vs Wade ?
July 19th, 2007 at 10:07 amYes that’s correct, the answer is “who gives a shit”.
Really ? Damn. I answered “I find that difficult to believe given that no credible research has ever suggested this was the case, all available research corroborates this never occurring along with the statements all the parties involved.”
You’ll be the representative from the not-so-much-reality-based-community here.
July 19th, 2007 at 10:14 amOne farm it is then.
Of course they already do such polls.
The reason you’re not aware such polls exist is that they aren’t posted here.
After all, it would be kind of hard to get the same reaction to daily poll updates for Bush in the % 30s and 20s when the Democrat congress has practically the same approval rating.
Likewise, why complain about poll results for congress as a whole when these receive the same amount — zero — coverage here ?
Is never mentioning this, giving it too much attention ? How could any more be done to spare you acknowledging this ?
I mean TP runs at least a dozen stories about high disapproval ratings for various issues every month. Few of them reach the 70% disapproval rating shown there for congress. That’s as good as it gets. How are you not happy with this ?
How about showing a little bit of gratitude for the filter here. It’s working its arse off for you.
July 19th, 2007 at 10:38 amKilo, dear, the reason that Congressional approval rating polls don’t get much attention is that they’re irrelevant. People don’t re-elect their CongressCritter on the basis of Congressional approval ratings — they re-elect them on the basis of the approval (or lack thereof), for the individual CongressCritter, and every single one of these is significantly higher than Bush and Cheney.
Now, did you have a point?
July 19th, 2007 at 10:59 amExcellent report, except for the stork you were quite controlled (not that it wasn’t funny, but it definitely strayed from your original theme.
If any of those chickenhawks ever challenge YOU for not enlisting, you can always remind them “I don’t believe in this war the way you people do. You are the ones who refuse to live up to your own ideology, if you believe in everything you claim, then live up to your own standards, or just get used to being labeled a hypocrite.”
July 19th, 2007 at 11:00 amNothing and I mean nothing succeeds at that level; i.e. Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc., without sleeping with the Government; i.e. giving them backdoor access, (e.g. Windows, iPhone et al). Google professes privacy and has created one of the best tools for the Bush administration and his secret army of neocons who are watching your every move.
July 19th, 2007 at 11:32 amDo you think this guy might have duel citizenship as well as duel loyalties? Duh
July 19th, 2007 at 11:45 amComment by Kilo I know you are a little thick headed so lets make it a little clearer… every person that works around this guy, knows this guy, and reads this article or knows someone that read this article will now look at him in a very different light…its called karma or what comes around goes around….
July 19th, 2007 at 12:23 pmRead his comment carefully “But no one could sensibly assert that the West fabricated Saddam’s WMD ambitions.” (emphasis added)
While Saddam’s capabilities were zero – and “overplayed” by the Bush administration – there is no question that Saddam’s repeatedly stated objective was the acquisition of WMDs.
July 19th, 2007 at 1:37 pmOne just has to look at his face to see he’s a backstabbing-speculating-scheissting-joo.
expect no less, from the chosen people.
July 19th, 2007 at 2:13 pmKilo,
John Howard was in Washington when 9/11 happened and he said that Australia would help do whatever Bush wanted – it was a blank check.
I note that Howard’s son became a Bush adviser during the 2004 election.
When Murdoch said, “With our newspapers, we have indeed supported Bush’s foreign policy,” he was speaking in the past tense.
You must feel very insecure to call me an idoit 4 times.
July 20th, 2007 at 1:04 amOf course that’s the reason, Captain Gullible.
July 20th, 2007 at 4:14 amAnd the fact that they were relevant enough to get published here before the last election and not since is just sheer coincidence.
As was the same statement by all the other countries who said the same thing… even France.
I mentioned this in the post you are replying to. Why are covering the same ground again ?
Hadn’t heard that before, but sounds like excellent experience for someone who’s father is up for election this year.
Again, you’re telling me something I already wrote here. Not really necessary.
Sure. I guess it’s just a coincidence that I mentioned this in response to each idiotic statement you made, which I was quoting.
You are the same Martin Grifford that just suggested Australia had some role in influencing the Bush administration’s decision to invade Iraq aren’t you ?
July 20th, 2007 at 4:23 amOh riiiiiight…. I get it now.
This story is useful because it has found an obscure article on the internet about this guy and highlighted it.
That his coworkers might not otherwise be able to find on their own.
At his place of employment.
Google.
I did actually mention this earlier nimrod. What, you didn’t get the point ?
July 20th, 2007 at 4:33 amKilo,
You are being deceptive, which is a waste of time and energy.
July 20th, 2007 at 9:22 pm