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Kyl, McCain Obstruct Defense Bill, Then Dishonestly Blame Reid For Not Funding The Troops»

Sens. John McCain (R-AZ) and Jon Kyl (R-AZ) raced to the television cameras this afternoon to offer hyperbolic attacks against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, following Reid’s decision to pull the entire Defense Authorization bill from consideration. McCain and Kyl were quick to dishonestly politicize Reid’s maneuver, after obstructing passage of the bill over opposition to an Iraq redeployment amendment:

MCCAIN: What have we done by not passing the Defense Authorization bill? We are not allowing a 3 1/2 percent pay raise to men and women in the military. We’re not modernizing their equipment, including MRAP. We are not passing the wounded warriors legislation, which we all know is vitally needed to care for our wounded veterans. We have placed the care of our wounded veterans in a lower priority than a debate over Iraq.

KYL: It’s an act of petulance, it seems to me. But it’s also a very wreckless and irresponsible action because the troops depend upon the Defense Authorization bill passing. That’s what the bill authorizes…the care that they get, the weapons that they get, the training and all the other things they need to carry out the mission.

“It’s a commentary on where the priorities are of those who brought down this bill,” fumed McCain. “It clearly cannot be the welfare and benefit and arming and training of both of our active duty military and the medical care for our veterans,” he added. Watch it:

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McCain and Kyl’s argument that Reid’s maneuver will deny pay raises, equipment, and medical care to American troops is false on its face. Here are the facts:

1) The troops have all the funding they need. The defense authorization bill being debated in the Senate is for fiscal year 2008, which begins on October 1. Funding for the troops — including emergency appropriations — has already been earmarked through September 30th, 2007.

2) Conservatives are responsible for stalling passage of the bill. While McCain claims that Reid “brought down this bill,” in fact, Reid only resorted to pulling the bill after McCain and other pro-war senators blustered and stalled, refusing to allow an up-down vote on the Levin-Reed Iraq redeployment amendment. In fact, in his floor speech this morning, Reid specifically names McCain as one of “a handful of dedicated obstructionists” using procedural moves to block the vote.

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194 Responses to “Kyl, McCain Obstruct Defense Bill, Then Dishonestly Blame Reid For Not Funding The Troops”

  1. willyloman Says:

    they just keep making it up as they go along.


  2. tarazan Says:

    That’s why Mccain word is not selling anymore.


  3. Egreggious Says:

    Why isn’t he asleep?


  4. Mr. Vice President Says:

    McCain and Kyl’s antics are nothing but melodrama from old men, they should resign.


  5. Thad Says:

    …Sorry about that, guys.

    (I DID vote against Kyl. I admit to voting for McCain in ‘04, but that was back when he was best known as the guy telling the President it would be pretty great if we stopped torturing people.)

    You know, there were some recall petitions floating around for both Senators recently; I was sorely tempted to sign them despite the fact that they were started by bigots who objected to McCain and Kyl’s support of Bush’s immigration bill. I haven’t heard anything about those petitions lately, so I reasonably assume they’re as dead as the bill.


  6. Tim Viagy Says:

    Pull the money and we don’t support our troops but don’t pull the money and we’re bowing to the superior republicans. They try so hard to make it a lose/lose situation.

    http://www.beforeyougopostal.com/Slugg


  7. SGT Higgins Says:

    We have placed the care of our wounded veterans in a lower priority than a debate over Iraq.

    Proud of yourself?


  8. slimpickins Says:

    “DIG DEEPER BOYS! I THINK AT SEE SOME SUNLIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS HOLE!”


  9. RUCerious Says:

    They see the light at the end of the tunnel, and are whooping it up, jumping up and down, patting themselves on the back.
    They don’t know it’s a speeding locomotive headed right at their political careers. Impact on or about Nov 08.


  10. missmolly Says:

    I guess Kyl and McCain think there are still enough idiots in this country to buy their transparent spin. Or they are counting making enough noise that the media will trumpet their message without questioning it.


  11. gummitch Says:

    Good!!!

    Comment by Mr. President

    Gee, that “homework” sure didn’t take long, PiPPy. Mommy ask you to take out the garbage?


  12. Vato Says:

    Arizona needs to get in on some recall action.


  13. mongo Says:

    “Reid’s antics were nothing but melodrama from an old man, he should resign.

    Comment by Mr. President”

    You misspelled mccain. Here let me help you correct it:

    “mccain’s antics were nothing but melodrama from an old man, he should resign.”


  14. Powkat Says:

    Republicans are lying sacks of sh*t - no one, repeat, no one who has the least claim to being an ethical human being can call him or herself a Republican today. That party has been taken over by religious fanatics, war profiteers, and criminals who use the offices to which they are elected to loot the Treasury for their personal fortunes. They are scum. And anyone who continues to support them is scum.


  15. CT_V1 Says:

    Congress should quickly write their checks and shut it. Attaching a surrender policy to procedural funding has no place and interferes with the President’s powers as our great commander-in-chief.


  16. CT_V1 Says:


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  17. hil Says:

    McCain is just so pathetic…


  18. J Lewd Says:

    Here’s two good reasons not to live in Arizona: Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Jon Kyl (R-AZ). John and John; sort of like Dumb and Dumber, except it’s impossible to tell which is which.

    John McCain is political comedy at its finest. Everyone in the world except John McCain knows “McCain in 2008″ is the best one-liner ever written — it’s its own punchline! BTW, the “Straight Talk Express” ought to be a hearse.


  19. willyloman Says:

    Gee, that “homework” sure didn’t take long, PiPPy. Mommy ask you to take out the garbage?

    Comment by gummitch

    He’s not allowed to do that anymore…ever since “the incident”.


  20. jake3988 Says:

    Yeah, I’m with a couple guys up.

    Dems pull the funding, cons will say we don’t support the troops.

    Dems don’t pull the funding, liberals will say we bowed to the dems.

    Its a lose/lose situation.


  21. francis Says:

    what’s this surrender monkey business all about?


  22. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Reid’s antics were nothing but melodrama from an old man, he should resign.

    Comment by Mr. President

    Mr. P’s comments are nothing but gibberish from a fool. He should just shut up! (After all, folks… he really thinks the Saudis AREN’T Molsems… talk about ridiculous!)


  23. Mr. President's Tube Sock Says:

    HELP! I’m stuck under Mr. President’s bed again! Mom walked in and almost caught him, so he shoved me under the bed and now I’m pushed up against some board game. “Operation!” I think.

    Anyway, last time this happened, I was under here in the dark for five months and the… the stains that Mr. President deposited on me started to sprout mold. It wasn’t until his Uncle Lee (Lee Harvey, actually) came to stay and Mom cleaned up the room that she found me. Almost threw me out.

    I don’t want to spend another five months here! I don’t want to get tossed out! It’s bad enough getting “tossed off” on! Please send help! I’m in Mr. President’s bedroom in Fairfax, VA! HELP!


  24. jake3988 Says:

    Uh, I meant ‘liberals will say dems bowed to the republicans’.

    Sorry.


  25. Troll Says:

    The Dems should have some balls and not fund the troops if they really believe they should come home. Let the chips fall where they may. But I’d put money on the refunding.


  26. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Proud of yourself?

    Comment by SGT Higgins

    Yes, they are, SGT

    (Power outtage work, BTW… I’m home again.)


  27. Billy Says:

    You leave Mr. President alone! He can’t help being stupid!


  28. hellinabucket Says:

    The right are such whiners. Whiners with a severe case of short term memory loss. They were told all thru last night what was needed, they forgot. They were quick to jump to threaten with a filibuster, they forgot how they wanted to do away with it.

    “The Republican Party. Obstruction congress one bill at a time.”

    then to read knee JERK Mr. President and Knee JERK CT as if this is all new to them shows it’s in their kool aid. “mmmmmmm rovianberry, I was told this is my favorite.”


  29. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Mr. President’s Tube Sock — July 18, 2007 @ 5:25 pm

    Oh god, that’s hilarious…


  30. CT_V1 Says:

    Comment by Mr. President — July 18, 2007 @ 5:23 pm

    Gee! Thanks Mr. President, but you can just call me CT.

    I’m due back in RNC training by the end of the summer. I want to see my troll check increase to six-figures. I’m sure you’re already quite upscale.


  31. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Attaching a surrender policy to procedural funding has no place and interferes with the President’s powers as our great commander-in-chief.

    Comment by CT_V1

    It’s not a surrender policy and your comments make no sense. Totally irrational. You embarrass yourself and don’t even know it!


  32. Billy Says:

    I’ll save you, Mr. President’s Tube Sock! Mine is all hard and crusty.


  33. Candyce Says:

    (After all, folks… he really thinks the Saudis AREN’T Molsems… talk about ridiculous!)

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Did he really say that? What are Saudis then?


  34. SGT Higgins Says:

    (Power outtage work, BTW… I’m home again.)

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    LOL And I’m on my way out shortly. At any rate, sounds like a good day. Get to make your own schedule, huh? Must be nice.


  35. Buck Fush Says:

    Hey, Mr. Pres & CT_V1 - how’s that minimum wage the RNC is paying you to post total crap day in and day out?
    Honestly you guys are total morons, and the type of morons this country no longer needs or wants in anyway shape or form. You are the last of a dieing breed, the neanderthals will die out and it will be good for all the humans.

    Evolution is happening again, and the repukes are gonna die off.


  36. mikey r Says:

    Ignore C**T V1. Never did make sense, never will.


  37. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    A surrender monkey, is a Liberal/Democrat defeatist.

    Comment by Mr. President

    But… but… I thought we were all Stalinists, from a man who thinks the Saudis aren’t Moslems… no, really, he said that. Ask him for yourself if you don’t believe me.

    Funny, you were the one advocating propaganda, and then mass elimination, if that didn’t work. What’s up w/ that?


  38. Zooey Says:

    (Power outtage work, BTW… I’m home again.)
    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    You have ridiculous luck, TRoS. :D


  39. CT_V1 Says:

    Comment by Zooey — July 18, 2007 @ 5:27 pm

    In a troll to libetroll kind of way, I love you.


  40. Libtard Bait Says:

    Did he really say that? What are Saudis then?

    Comment by Candyce

    yeah, he said it.
    He has a whol list of stupid sayings.
    You should read some old threads every now and then, they’re full of his putrid crap.


  41. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Did he really say that? What are Saudis then?

    Comment by Candyce

    Yeah, he went on and on about last Saturday. Simply INSISTED they weren’t Moslems, because **drumroll** of information he got from a FATWA issued by OBL, that he found on a PBS website. KA-ching!!!

    **snicker… snicker… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!**

    You watch, he’s gonna deny he ever said it next, or claim we took his comments “out of context”. I say he pulled his comments out of his a**.


  42. SGT Higgins Says:

    You have ridiculous luck, TRoS. :D

    Comment by Zooey

    yeah I was jealous when I heard that.

    btw, that was I…just didn’t feel like typin’ in the URL at the time.


  43. Zooey Says:

    In a troll to libetroll kind of way, I love you.
    Comment by CT_V1 — July 18, 2007 @ 5:31 pm

    I don’t understand you at all, CT.

    Peace.


  44. upside00 Says:

    As a fellow Vietnam combat vet, I used to have some respect for McCain and what he went through as a POW, but he has now turned into the most pandering, troop-hating Senator of them all. And he has been an enabler to the Senator from the state of NeoCon, Joe Lieberman, which is also a travesty.


  45. CT_V1 Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 5:28 pm

    Withdraw within 120 days? As a requirement? That’s not sound military strategy, that’s surrendering! It’s classic, boring liberal smuck!


  46. Head Counselor Foley Says:

    I’m due back in RNC training by the end of the summer
    Comment by CT_V1

    Are you going to the same camp as Mr.P(P) went to?
    We had such fun…..


  47. Ben B Says:

    I hope I can blame Reid for not funding the troops a year from now. And of course by the troops, I mean the war (the very thing that is getting the troops killed).

    And by the way, what good is a 3.5% pay raise if you’re not alive to spend it? Or if (like McCain) you have to pay for escort from 100 soldiers and 2 apache gunships to go to the f**king market to buy something because you live in Iraq…?


  48. spit take Says:

    Yeah, he went on and on about last Saturday. Simply INSISTED they weren’t Moslems, because **drumroll** of information he got from a FATWA issued by OBL

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 5:34 pm

    Was that before or after a dead serviceman got namejacked and the namejacker tried to despoil the reputation of an active soldier?


  49. Armando Gomez Says:

    Kyl, McCain Obstruct Defense Bill, Then Dishonestly Blame Reid For Not Funding The Troops?

    McCain and Kyl, along with the other Republicans throughout this Bush-creation-for-greed-war in Iraq have exploited and abused our troops since the beginning. They attack our troops’ medical benefits, medical treatment, shoddy equipment & material, getting them killed, sitting them up as clay pigeons so that the Republicans and their corporate friends can score big from the Iraqi war. My problem isn’t with the Republicans but with the Democrats who aren’t fighting for our troops as “dirty” as these Republicans are attacking them.


  50. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    LOL And I’m on my way out shortly. At any rate, sounds like a good day. Get to make your own schedule, huh? Must be nice.

    Comment by SGT Higgins

    You have ridiculous luck, TRoS. :D

    Comment by Zooey

    What can I say? When you’re a Republic, good things happen to you!

    Yes, it is nice setting my own schedlue, but it makes me lazy too, and I’m beginning to spend a liiiitttle tooooo much time, ahem, posting snotty comments on line, but it’s fun..:-D!!


  51. Namtillaku Says:

    More straight talkin’, eh McCain? No wonder you’re so unelectable. People in Arizona should be ashamed, I am - I live in Utah.


  52. CT_V1 Says:

    Comment by Buck Fush — July 18, 2007 @ 5:30 pm

    Mr. President made it clear, Mr. Fush. We are not reech or reich or rump-wingers, we are Metaprogressives ™.

    The regular “progressive” types will go out of style. While you are cool, you are also wrong.


  53. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Oh, don’t even listen to McCain. He can’t come to grips with the fact that America doesn’t want him - or any other Republican, for that matter - to be President. He’s playing to the 26 percenters, and he’s only got about 1 percent of them on hs side.

    Never forget: This war was based on fraud, and fraud is a crime. No matter what has happened since the commission of the original crime, or no matter what will happen in the future, we are engaged in a continuing criminal enterprise. The only solution is to admit the criminality, to recognize the damage we have done in the commission of this crime, and to take corrective action, including restitution.

    We are Americans - we can only be proud if we do the right thing.


  54. Zooey Says:

    yeah I was jealous when I heard that.
    btw, that was I…just didn’t feel like typin’ in the URL at the time.
    Comment by SGT Higgins

    The only time the power went out while I was at work, I was in the elevator. Everyone else went home, and I spent time with the elevator guy. No fair. :)


  55. mikey r Says:

    Obviously, C**T V1 has no idea what the actual definition of “surrender” is, since in order to “surrender” you need someone to actually “surrender to”.

    What a C**T.


  56. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Was that before or after a dead serviceman got namejacked and the namejacker tried to despoil the reputation of an active soldier?

    Comment by spit take

    I think it was before. Who knows? Maybe the utter humiliation of having your own words pinned to you like donkey ears made the little feller act funny.


  57. CT_V1 Says:

    Comment by Head Counselor Foley — July 18, 2007 @ 5:35 pm

    Foley applied to RNC, but was turned down because they felt his application exhibited qualities that were too Democratic. The dean of Admissions at RNC was proven right, apparently.


  58. SGT Higgins Says:

    posting snotty comments on line, but it’s fun..:-D!!

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    lmao yeah, ain’t it, though?


  59. upside00 Says:

    #60 WOW Zooey, sounds like you got the “shaft”!!


  60. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    While you are cool, you are also wrong.

    Comment by CT_V1

    And while you are not cool, you’re also not right. Oh man, it’s a double header, and we sweep!! We’re No 1!! We’re No 1!! They’re No 2!!

    Wait a minute, in addition to not being cool, and not being right, you’re also not all right. It’s a trifecta!!! A hat trick!!


  61. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    …they are counting making enough noise that the media will trumpet their message without questioning it.

    Comment by missmolly — July 18, 2007 @ 5:11 pm

    Of course they are - that’s what the Republicans pay them to do.


  62. SGT Higgins Says:

    The only time the power went out while I was at work, I was in the elevator. Everyone else went home, and I spent time with the elevator guy. No fair. :) —– Yeah but that could’ve just as easily turned into one of those, “How we met” stories.

    Comment by Zooey


  63. Mr. Effluent Says:

    The dean of Admissions at RNC was proven right, apparently.

    Comment by CT_V1

    Is the Dean of admissions also the dean of trolls?


  64. Zooey Says:

    #60 WOW Zooey, sounds like you got the “shaft”!!
    Comment by upside00 — July 18, 2007 @ 5:39 pm

    Heh. Well, it made me take the stairs…. :D


  65. Egreggious Says:

    People in Arizona should be ashamed, I am - I live in Utah.

    Comment by Namtillaku — July 18, 2007 @ 5:36 pm

    I’m ashamed. I live in Bush’s America.


  66. mikey r Says:

    I see C**T V1 is calling play #9 in the Troll Playbook — “The Power of Pretend Words”. The trolls are now making up more nonsensical words and pretending that they mean something that somehow helps them.

    It’s kinda cute. Like when kittens pretend to attack their littermates with soft fuzzy paws and no coordination.


  67. Zooey Says:

    Yeah but that could’ve just as easily turned into one of those, “How we met” stories.
    Comment by SGT Higgins

    If only I hadn’t been alone……


  68. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Foley applied to RNC, but was turned down because they felt his application exhibited qualities that were too Democratic. The dean of Admissions at RNC was proven right, apparently.

    Comment by CT_V1

    Sorry, you’re not Fox Snooze. You don’t get to pin Floey on us. He was a Repub, pure and simple. One of your own!!!

    Mark Foley, R-Fla!!!! Forever!!!!


  69. Raven Says:

    and I spent time with the elevator guy.
    Comment by Zooey

    Hopefully it gave your day a lift…….;)


  70. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Gee, that “homework” sure didn’t take long, PiPPy. Mommy ask you to take out the garbage?

    Comment by gummitch

    He’s not allowed to do that anymore…ever since “the incident”.

    Comment by willyloman — July 18, 2007 @ 5:23 pm

    “the incident” involved the cat box - not the garbage.


  71. CT_V1 Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

    Meta progressiveness will be the sure successor to Progressivism. Progressivism is more like the rough draft to its Meta addition, which will come soon enough.

    Enjoy it while it lasts. Progressivism itself will soon come under the spotlight as being a screwed-up prototype.


  72. Egreggious Says:

    I spent time with the elevator guy.

    Comment by Zooey — July 18, 2007 @ 5:37 pm

    I hope he wasn’t one of those “up is down/down is up” Republics.


  73. SGT Higgins Says:

    If only I hadn’t been alone……

    Comment by Zooey

    Right. That would mean if it were one of those “How we met” stories, it’d be somehing much more sinister.

    “The calls are coming from inside your head!”


  74. Zooey Says:

    Hopefully it gave your day a lift…….;)
    Comment by Raven

    Eventually!! :)


  75. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    lmao yeah, ain’t it, though?

    Comment by SGT Higgins

    And a little too easy, too. I feel like I’m shooting fish on a log, or ducks in a barrel. Or trolls in their mothers’ dresses, for that matter.

    I suppose I should feel some guilt about this, BUT I DON’T!!!


  76. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    I’m in Mr. President’s bedroom in Fairfax, VA! HELP!

    Comment by Mr. President’s Tube Sock — July 18, 2007 @ 5:25 pm

    mr. president lives in Fairfax?


  77. CT_V1 Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 5:42 pm

    No, the RNC determined Foley to be a RINO. It’s a done deal. I’m sorry, sir.


  78. Zooey Says:

    I hope he wasn’t one of those “up is down/down is up” Republics.
    Comment by Egreggious

    He was a “Get the damn door open surrender monkey.” :D


  79. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Isn’t it funny… you call Mr P on his own ridculous words, and he takes a powder immediately.


  80. celtic cynic Says:

    It’s all the damn liberal democrats fault.

    sarcasm ON


  81. SGT Higgins Says:

    I suppose I should feel some guilt about this, BUT I DON’T!!!

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    I know how you feel. My troll-empathy is non-existent.


  82. Zooey Says:

    “The calls are coming from inside your head!”
    Comment by SGT Higgins

    I don’t have to be in an elevator for that….. Heh.


  83. Egreggious Says:

    a screwed-up prototype.

    Comment by CT_V1 — July 18, 2007 @ 5:44 pm

    Troll-bot.


  84. CT_V1 Says:

    Is the Dean of admissions also the dean of trolls?

    Comment by Mr. Effluent — July 18, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

    Not true, sir. The Dean of Trolls is more comparable to ‘Dean of Students’ or ‘Dean of the Faculty.’

    Good blessings to you, Mr. Effluent.


  85. SGT Higgins Says:

    CT,

    There’s no need to respond to that rambling fool.

    Comment by Mr. President

    There, now it reads more accurately. YW


  86. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    No, the RNC determined Foley to be a RINO. It’s a done deal. I’m sorry, sir.

    Comment by CT_V1

    No no no no no… we live in the “fact-based” world here. Foley was a Repub, and he will always be remembered as a Repub. Perhaps we should look thru his little black book and see if YOUR number is in there.

    You have been spotted lounging around TP in Speedos. (Mr P got soooo excited.)


  87. MapleStreet Says:

    “We’re not modernizing their equipment, including MRAP.”

    Yeah, uh Right - especially knowing how the military has been refusing to do this for 3 years.


  88. Troll Says:

    Speaking of Metaprogressives â„¢ how did you guys come to call yourselves “progressives” liberalism has historically represented a movement away from government and maximizing individual liberty. With that in mind and considering the policies you advocate you are more rightly “regressives.”


  89. SGT Higgins Says:

    Comment by Zooey — July 18, 2007 @ 5:48 pm

    lmao Have a great night, don’t let the trolls bite.

    Gotta get home, all my E-mails are done.


  90. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    There’s no need to respond to that rambling fool.

    Comment by Mr. President

    So, about those Moslems… need me scroll back to Saturday and find your comments, ya know, refresh your memory?


  91. Grand Moff Texan Says:

    McCain and Kyl’s argument that Reid’s maneuver will deny pay raises, equipment, and medical care to American troops is false on its face.

    Well that should have been obvious. Republicans don’t give a shit about the troops.
    .


  92. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Progressivism itself will soon come under the spotlight as being a screwed-up prototype.

    Comment by CT_V1

    So if you’re not for progress, does that mean you’re for REGRESS??? WTF??


  93. upside00 Says:

    Republic - Let’s not forget the rest of that Wall of Shame in republic-land, the Dukester Cunningham, Tommy Gun DeLay, Ted Haggard, Sen. Vitter, Teddy Bridge to Nowhere Stevens, Jack Abramoff, Stevie Griles, just to name a few. We just keep waiting as each day a new “Fun Fact” about the family value party unfolds.

    Must really suck to be a Repug!


  94. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Gotta get home, all my E-mails are done.

    Comment by SGT Higgins

    Later, Sarge.


  95. Jeremy Says:

    Wow. Methinks the Troll doth protest too much. So, Mr. P., what was it you said about those Saudi. And aren’t you the tool that appropriated the name of the dead soldier?

    Come on, TRoS, let’s see it. :)


  96. Merlin Says:

    Forcing republics to stand up and commit themselves… er… make fools of themselves by saying what they thin… no, what they fee… no, what they polparrot (ah, that’s it) tells the American public what they need to know. I can hardly wait for the big bump in the republics poll numbers from this shar… intel…(man this is hard)… er… can some troll help me out here?
    I mean, McC..McBush and Kill…er Kwine must have something worthwh… er…something…er… They do make sense, right? I mean, really… Cmon trolls this is tough! I don’t want to believe the obvious. And you know I will take your word as tru…er… (I better quit while I’m ahead.)


  97. Mr. President's Tube Sock Says:

    You know, I know a few things about Mr. President… for instance, he often dresses up in his mom’s clothes when he blogs, and he uses me to stuff her bra. If I had a gastrointestinal system, I’d throw up.

    He doesn’t look good, either, even when he puts on her makeup. He’s no Mitt Romney, that boy.

    I’ll spill all the beans to anyone who PULLS ME OUT FROM UNDER THIS DAMN BED!


  98. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Must really suck to be a Repug!

    Comment by upside00

    It’s getting hard to keep track w/out a scorecard, isn’t it? One-a-days… the Incredible Imploding Repubs!


  99. upside00 Says:

    Sgt Higgins,

    At Ease! and Dismissed!!!


  100. mikey r Says:

    Let’s not forget the rest of that Wall of Shame in republic-land, the Dukester Cunningham, Tommy Gun DeLay, Ted Haggard, Sen. Vitter, Teddy Bridge to Nowhere Stevens, Jack Abramoff, Stevie Griles, just to name a few. We just keep waiting as each day a new “Fun Fact” about the family value party unfolds.

    Must really suck to be a Repug!

    Comment by upside00 — July 18, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

    Didn’t you hear? The RNC has determined that all of those folks are RINOs too. Not real conservatives. Never were. And by the way, Up is Down.


  101. Chris Says:

    How did he just get away with lying on the TV?

    Aren’t there fact checkers to like…view the material before it airs?


  102. Zooey Says:

    lmao Have a great night, don’t let the trolls bite.
    Gotta get home, all my E-mails are done.
    Comment by SGT Higgins

    Goodnight, Sarge. Have a nice evening. :)


  103. Luis M Says:

    So just _what_ did Mr. P(mosh) said about the Saudis? Inquiring minds want to know.


  104. mikey r Says:

    You watch, he’s gonna deny he ever said it next, or claim we took his comments “out of context”. I say he pulled his comments out of his a**.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 5:34 pm

    You and I both know I never said anything of the sort!

    Comment by Mr. President — July 18, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

    You called it, TROS.

    Go get ‘im.


  105. upside00 Says:

    #111

    mikey r -

    Gee, and many of the Repugs don’t claim the BushCo NeoCon Boyz and Girlz either. Guess the republic party has slowly sunk into its own shitpile!


  106. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 5:50 pm

    You and I both know I never said anything of the sort!

    So STFU!!!

    Comment by Mr. President — July 18, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

    You did, however, claim that Osama bin Laden was a republican operative, doing the bidding of his Republican masters - and that’s a fact.


  107. SGT Higgins Says:

    Later, Sarge
    At Ease! and Dismissed!!!
    Goodnight, Sarge. Have a nice evening. :)

    You guys rock, you really do. That’s not just my opinion….i read it in a book.

    I’ll spill all the beans
    Comment by Mr. President’s Tube Sock — Sock? for real…..no one wants you spilling anything around here.


  108. Mr. Presidents Skid Marked Skivvies Says:

    PULLS ME OUT FROM UNDER THIS DAMN BED!

    Comment by Mr. President’s Tube Sock

    Take me with you, don’t leave me here all alone with the dust bunnies.


  109. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    These are some of the most hypocritical whiners I have ever seen. They need us “trolls” to keep them in touch with reality.

    Comment by Mr. President — July 18, 2007 @ 5:54 pm

    Bwaaaaaahhaaaaahahahhahhahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    HaaaaaaaaaaHaaaaaha!

    BwaaaaaaaHaaaaaaHaaaa!


  110. Candyce Says:

    Wow, he did say it. Explains a lot about why we’re losing this war if neocons and their ilk can’t even keep the religions straight over there.


  111. upside00 Says:

    See You Higgie Baby… and you rock too!


  112. Mr. President's Tube Sock Says:

    Take me with you, don’t leave me here all alone with the dust bunnies.

    Comment by Mr. Presidents Skid Marked Skivvies — July 18, 2007 @ 6:01

    Sorry dude. It’s every garment for himself. And you stink.


  113. Merlin Says:

    #96 Comment by Troll — July 18, 2007 @ 5:50 pm

    Speaking of Metaprogressives ™ how did you guys come to call yourselves “progressives” liberalism has historically represented a movement away from government and maximizing individual liberty. With that in mind and considering the policies you advocate you are more rightly “regressives.”

    Define “Metaprogressive” for me. Not familiar with the term. And why the “TM”?


  114. upside00 Says:

    Hey mr. p, better not believe those polls……..you haven’t won anything except the fact that we tolerate you here ……….. kinda like our ugly sister. But we love you anyway!


  115. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Oh Mr P….

    You and I both know I never said anything of the sort!

    So STFU!!!

    Comment by Mr. President — July 18, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

    Surely you jest… Saudis aren’t Moslems????

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 14, 2007 @ 2:01 pm

    ———————————————————————————

    The Saudi King and his regime are too “Western” and “Capitalistic” to be considered muslims by the extremists. That is why OBL wants to over throw the Saudi regime, and steal the oil for himself!!!

    Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 2:09 pm

    Hmmm, and he “claims” he never said it.


  116. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Man, that’s gotta hurt…


  117. Zooey Says:

    See You Higgie Baby… and you rock too!
    Comment by upside00

    Oh lordy, that’s just embarassing. :-D


  118. ForTruth Says:

    The finest a**holes Arizona can produce.


  119. upside00 Says:

    mr. p,

    We all know you don’t care… and you don’t think, you just throw shit out there and sees what sticks. No mystery to that.


  120. Jeremy Says:

    If I was like Mr. P, I’d namejack him right now and put words in his mouth that sound like he’s taking a major dump or about to rub out a good one.

    However, unlike him, I don’t namejack, and I certianly would never take the name of a fallen soldier for political gain.


  121. Mr. President's Tube Sock Says:

    HERE IT COMES…

    Comment by Mr. President — July 18, 2007 @ 6:09 pm

    Everybody get out of the way! I’ve sen this before! He’s going to take a massive dump in the middle of his bed!

    Owwww gross! I just hope he doesn’t taste it this time!


  122. Mr. President's Tube Sock Says:

    Oh no!!! Right on the Skid-Marked Skivvies!

    Sorry, buddy!


  123. Jeremy Says:

    *deadpans* Thanks for the mental image, tubesock. I was trying not to create too many of those, but thanks anyway.


  124. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Come on, TRoS, let’s see it. :)

    Comment by Jeremy

    Go back to The Ever Changing Definition of ‘Mission’ In Iraq thread from Saturday, the 14th, and scroll down to around 370. in the comments. Mr P was dropping sh*t all over the place, over and over and over again.


  125. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    You called it, TROS.

    Go get ‘im.

    Comment by mikey r

    And I didn’t have any money on it either, damn. But then, you guys were WAAAYYY too smart to take that bet.


  126. mikey r Says:

    While Mr Pee changes his sheets, TROS, maybe you could find the original post where Mr pee claimed that Saudis weren’t Muslims. The one you got nails him pretty good, but I thought there was a better one.


  127. Merlin Says:

    #129 Comment by Mr. President — July 18, 2007 @ 6:08 pm

    What do I care of the posts?

    Think some more…

    Well, thinking about it, as you suggest, you don’t care about anything at all…except your overrated self. You have admitted to shooting off your mouth with whatever comes into your head. Remember that?

    Engage brain before operating mouth.

    Think about it…


  128. Candyce Says:

    Post #353 and beyond…

    Those aren’t Muslims, those are Saudis.

    Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 1:49 pm


  129. spit take Says:

    The Republic of Stupidity: why do you smear and attack these innocent trolls? Because, as everyone knows, quoting a wingnut’s words back to them is considered a “smear” in wingnutland.


  130. Zooey Says:

    Engage brain before operating mouth.
    Think about it…
    Comment by Merlin

    Maybe you will succeed where I failed…..


  131. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Candyce — July 18, 2007 @ 6:17 pm

    Thanks, Candyce. I knew I’d seen that.


  132. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Hmmm… it ppears that Mr P had to go powder his nose again. Crying really f*cks up your make-up huh?


  133. veritas Says:

    McCain’s candidacy is now officially in it’s ‘last throes’.


  134. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Those aren’t Muslims, those are Saudis.

    Comment by Mr. President — July 14, 2007 @ 1:49 pm

    Comment by Candyce

    Hysterical, isn’t it???

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… ouch… I just hurt myself from laughing so hard… snicker… snicker… ew, even thah hurts…

    BWA-Ouch-HA-ouch-Ha-ouch-ha…


  135. Jeremy Says:

    Well, he did have a mind-blowing….errr, ‘experience’ just then. Honestly, between you and me, TRoS, he needs to take a page out of Vitter’s book and hire a prostitute for the evening. The mess he makes at his house might get his ‘rents mad. ;)


  136. Merlin Says:

    #135 Comment by Mr. President’s Tube Sock — July 18, 2007 @ 6:11 pm

    Everybody get out of the way! I’ve sen this before! He’s going to take a massive dump in the middle of his bed!

    Owwww gross! I just hope he doesn’t taste it this time!

    BwaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaa

    Extraordinary series of posts! (wiping tears of laughter).


  137. Egreggious Says:

    McCain’s candidacy is now officially in it’s ‘last throes’.

    Comment by veritas — July 18, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

    To quote Zooey, “Remember what hapend the last time somebody said that.”


  138. mikey r Says:

    Nice work, Candyce.

    Just one more instance of Mr Pee being proven to be a liar. How many do we need?

    He sure is doing his side a lot of good.


  139. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    McCain’s candidacy is now officially in it’s ‘last throes’.

    Comment by veritas

    Is that “last throes”, or, “last throw-ups”? Just wondering…


  140. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    The mess he makes at his house might get his ‘rents mad. ;)

    Comment by Jeremy

    Nah, they got wise years ago and invested in rubber sheets.


  141. Buck Fush Says:

    TROLLS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Comment by Mr. President

    What? Hey, stupid, everyone wins at Tic-Tac-Toe once in a while when playing themselves.
    By the way, how long did it take for you to get a win?


  142. Zooey Says:

    To quote Zooey, “Remember what hapend the last time somebody said that.”
    Comment by Egreggious

    How sweet! *sniff*


  143. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Extraordinary series of posts! (wiping tears of laughter).

    Comment by Merlin

    And almost all at Mr P’s expense, too! :-D!!!

    BWAHa-ouch-Ha-ouch-Ha-ouch-Ha-ouch…


  144. Merlin Says:

    #154 Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

    Is that “last throes”, or, “last throw-ups”? Just wondering…

    Last “dumps?” One can only hope.


  145. Egreggious Says:

    How sweet! *sniff*

    Comment by Zooey — July 18, 2007 @ 6:24 pm

    I think you spelled it right though.

    MDD


  146. Candyce Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

    What’s really precious is how agrees with extremists and Osama.


  147. Egreggious Says:

    And PBS.


  148. Troll Says:

    Comment by Merlin — July 18, 2007 @ 6:06 pm

    “Metaprogressives â„¢” is MR Ps but if in the platform it calls for a 50% reduction in federal spending I’ll vote for them.


  149. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    What’s really precious is how he agrees with extremists and Osama.

    Comment by Candyce

    And PBS.

    Comment by Egreggious

    Yeah - ouch - I know… BWAHA-ouch-HA-ouch-HA-ouch….

    Geez, he likes being the center of attention. Where’d he go?


  150. Mr. President's Tube Sock Says:

    Don’t worry about him claiming “Trolls Win”. His math skills aren’t very strong. I think it began when his parents thought he was retarded and they played a game with cheerios. No matter what Mr. President did, his parents would always clap and tell him he’d won.

    Sadly, those days ended a few months ago. That’s when he found this place. And it’s why, no matter how much sense you people make, he will always clap his hands and yell “Trolls Win!”.

    Honest, he actually does clap his hands. You should see it.


  151. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I got it - I know where he went. he’s scrolling back thru old threads looking for something dumb I said. You watch!


  152. Rosencrantz Says:

    While I completely agree with the action Reid has taken, I think point #2 is a bit disinginuous. It’s like saying the Republicans begged to be hit and Reid has hit them…but now you are saying Reid technically didn’t hit them because they asked for it. TECHNICALLY Reid did hit them and technically it was Reid’s decision to pull the bill, not the republicans.

    But while I disagree with that point, I completely agree with the Democrats actions and with your story.


  153. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    if in the platform it calls for a 50% reduction in federal spending I’ll vote for them.

    Comment by Troll

    W/ the Bush Regime in the WH??? NOT A CHANCE!!!


  154. Egreggious Says:

    if in the platform it calls for a 50% reduction in federal spending I’ll vote for them.

    Comment by Troll

    Getting out of Iraq would be a good start.


  155. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    You all know how the game is played, count ‘em up!

    Any post by a troll or responding to a troll

    = 1 point for The Troll â„¢

    Any post by a non-troll, that is on the topic of the thread

    = 1 point for the non-trolls

    BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME!!!

    Comment by Mr. President

    Oh pul-lease!!! We’ve had such a good laugh at your expense. Don’t spoil the moment.

    Saudis aren’t… snicker-ouch… Moslems!

    BWAHAHAHAH-ouchHA-ouch-HA-ouch-HA….


  156. jayjaybear Says:

    Why will none of the Democrats in Congress go on television or radio or in the newspapers and call this bullshit from the Republicans what it is: LIES? They’ve been lying and spinning from Day 1 and nobody ever calls them on it. The time for diplomacy with the Republicans is over. They never bargain in good faith and they never keep their word. None of them care about anything but their own electoral prospects and how much blackmail the White House has on them.

    Call them on their lies!


  157. Damian Says:

    Sadly, these two asshats are my senators. They can STFU about caring for the soldiers when they helped block a vote on Webb’s bill/ammendment. THAT action speaks volumes and should be shoved right up their asses anytime they proclaim to be siding with the troops.


  158. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Getting out of Iraq would be a good start.

    Comment by Egreggious

    That’s the problem w/ that idea… it’d be a “GOOD” start, and therefore, Brusch isn’t interested.

    Now, more tax cuts!!! That’s a winner!!!


  159. Merlin Says:

    Comment by Mr. President — July 18, 2007 @ 6:24 pm

    Keep talking Pee, (even though we can’t understand a word you are defending yourself with.) Suggestion:

    Remove foot from mouth before talking. THEN engage brain.

    Glad you are keeping us informed on what this mornings lesson was over at the West Hollywood Gym for Men. You trolls have a point system. WOW! I’m impressed! Trolls assign points to yourselves for simply posting. WOW!

    Us people in the real world have to do more than show up and spew whatever our minds think. Oh, thats right, you don’t think…just spew.


  160. Zooey Says:

    Saudis aren’t… snicker-ouch… Moslems!
    BWAHAHAHAH-ouchHA-ouch-HA-ouch-HA….
    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    If he was smart, he’d just admit he said something dumb, and take the wind out of your sails.

    But he’s not! And it’s too late now. Heh.


  161. Troll Says:

    W/ the Bush Regime in the WH??? NOT A CHANCE!!!

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 6:31 pm

    Seriously. This guys is more of a liberal (or the more flamboyant though inaccurate “progressive”) in his spending than a conservative.


  162. Egreggious Says:

    Why will none of the Democrats in Congress go on television or radio or in the newspapers and call this bullshit from the Republicans what it is: LIES?

    Comment by jayjaybear — July 18, 2007 @ 6:35 pm

    *crickets*


  163. Mr. President's diaper Says:

    Take me too! I don’t want to be left all alone without my friends tube sock and skid-marked undies.


  164. Merlin Says:

    #164 Comment by Troll — July 18, 2007 @ 6:27 pm

    “Metaprogressives ™” is MR Ps but if in the platform it calls for a 50% reduction in federal spending I’ll vote for them.

    If you don’t know what it means, then why use it? It makes what you say meaningless.

    And, by the way “liberals” fall into many “schools.”


  165. Egreggious Says:

    And, by the way “liberals” fall into many “schools.”

    Comment by Merlin — July 18, 2007 @ 7:02 pm

    I fell into a school of fish.


  166. bogtrotters Says:

    I understand McCain’s logic completely. We all know, also, that it was Poland who started World War II.


  167. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Seriously. This guys is more of a liberal (or the more flamboyant though inaccurate “progressive”) in his spending than a conservative.

    Comment by Troll

    Don’t you dare try to palm that little whackjob off on us.


  168. Egreggious Says:

    Comment by bogtrotters — July 18, 2007 @ 7:10 pm

    Yippee!

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 7:11 pm

    Yowsah!


  169. J Lewd Says:

    Every time I read about John McCain, I see Abe Simpson instead:

    “One way to get rid of them is to tell ‘em stories that don’t go anywhere. Like the time we went over to Shelbyville during the war. I wore an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time — you couldn’t get those white ones; you could only get those big yellow ones. . . . Now where was I. . . oh yeah: the important thing was I was wearing an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time — you couldn’t get those. . . .”

    The man has about that much relevance to the 2008 campaign.


  170. Thor Rockingham Says:

    Everyday I see Mr President and CT_V1 spew their Rush-O’Reilly talking points and yet they have not made the supreme sacrifice to go over there and do the right thing! Cowards! What else can you call them? Typical republican motto….”let someone else die for my carelessness and greed!”


  171. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Yippee!

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 7:11 pm

    That’s odd… I didn’t make this comment… I’ve been name-jacked!


  172. Robert M. Says:

    Let ‘em cry in their beer; but let’s make sure we make it be known they were the ones who obstructed the consideration of the bill as submitted.


  173. Egreggious Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 7:17 pm

    I didn’t format that post in the Pee-approved format. Sorry.


  174. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I didn’t format that post in the Pee-approved format. Sorry.

    Comment by Egreggious

    S’okay.


  175. Jeannie See Says:

    Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but it was the retards that blocked the vote yes?


  176. veritas Says:

    Democrats, the modern day party of defeat!


  177. Katie Says:

    I think that the Democrats should introduce a military funding bill that funds anything that has to do with supporting our troops like pay raises, medical benefits, etc. Everything else should stay off the table until such time as the Bush Administration comes up with a plan to end our occupation of Iraq. That would put the Lemming Republics into a real box.

    Reid has a point. Why should he allow them to vote on this bill when they have filibustered the Reed/Levin bill? Why do the Repubics get to choose what gets voted on and what doesn’t?

    And what is it with the word filibuster? I was listening to the news on my way home from work tonight and the news person (not really!) was talking about how the Republics “blocked” the Democrats from passing the bill. That was wrong on two fronts. They didn’t “block” they filibustered and it was not passing, it was voting. Our news media is an embarrassment.


  178. Katie Says:

    “That’s odd… I didn’t make this comment… I’ve been name-jacked!”

    It looks like Mr. Pee and his friends are name-jacking everyone on this thread.

    I think that they have a plan here. First they post something that is different from what they would normally post. Then they yell that they have been name-jacked. Then they name-jack other poster’s identities. What they are doing is trying to foment discontent to that people will leave this site. And, I think they are winning.

    TP: If you don’t want this site to die, you need to come up with a registration system quickly. The trolls are currently winning.


  179. Merlin Says:

    #190Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
    I didn’t format that post in the Pee-approved format. Sorry.
    Comment by Egreggious — July 18, 2007 @ 7:19 pm

    I didn’t format that post in the Pee-approved format. Sorry.
    Comment by Egreggious
    S’okay.
    #191 Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 7:20 pm

    Katy,
    Maybe you did not read the follow up on TRoS original post. However, I do agree with you that it would be great if TP would do that.

    PS. Hope this is clear. Posting multiple comments like this can be confusing. Check above if I screwed it above


  180. Devil's Advocate Says:

    McCain is a has-been. At this point, he is the only one not to admit that he is burned toast as a presidential candidate. As for Kyl, he is one of the lowest of the low among the GOP scumbags. These two pieces of trash just chose to keep our soldiers being slaughtered in Iraq to protect their demented messianic maniac of a president, and to not have to admit that they are complicit to war crimes.


  181. had enough Says:

    Kyl, McCain Obstruct Defense Bill, Then Dishonestly Blame Reid For Not Funding The Troops

    And… as the media does not report who votes for what…as they used to(?)… we must EXPOSE this bull crap the republicans pull during the ‘08 campaigns.


  182. Merlin Says:

    #98 Comment by had enough — July 18, 2007 @ 9:12 pm

    And… as the media does not report who votes for what…as they used to(?)… we must EXPOSE this bull crap the republicans pull during the ‘08 campaigns.

    Starting NOW!


  183. LibertyLover Says:

    I’m ashamed of my state’s senators. And we’re stuck with them for 3 and 5 more years. ICK


  184. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Our news media is an embarrassment.

    Comment by Katie — July 18, 2007 @ 7:53 pm

    When you’re dealing with a 7th grade audience, you only need an 8th grade education to look smart and informed.