Comments on: Kyl, McCain Obstruct Defense Bill, Then Dishonestly Blame Reid For Not Funding The Troops http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:23:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: O. Bigfoot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947728 O. Bigfoot Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:31:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947728 "You earn a “C-” since up to this point in your post, you got it right. After that, not so much. Come back and try again another time. Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) — July 19, 2007 @ 8:44 am" Actually, I reread my post, PLC, and I don't find an error of any kind anywhere in it. Did I mis-spell "bupkus"?? “You earn a “C-” since up to this point in your post, you got it right. After that, not so much. Come back and try again another time.

Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) — July 19, 2007 @ 8:44 am”

Actually, I reread my post, PLC, and I don’t find an error of any kind anywhere in it.

Did I mis-spell “bupkus”??

]]> By: PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947407 PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:44:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947407 “…in his floor speech this morning, Reid specifically names McCain as one of “a handful of dedicated obstructionists” using procedural moves to block the vote.” And then Reid uses a “procedural move” to pull the bill. Yet McCain is an obstructionist, and Reid is supposed to be some sort of hero _________________________________ You earn a "C-" since up to this point in your post, you got it right. After that, not so much. Come back and try again another time. “…in his floor speech this morning, Reid specifically names McCain as one of “a handful of dedicated obstructionists” using procedural moves to block the vote.”

And then Reid uses a “procedural move” to pull the bill.

Yet McCain is an obstructionist, and Reid is supposed to be some sort of hero
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You earn a “C-” since up to this point in your post, you got it right. After that, not so much. Come back and try again another time.

]]> By: O. Bigfoot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947399 O. Bigfoot Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:09:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947399 "...in his floor speech this morning, Reid specifically names McCain as one of “a handful of dedicated obstructionists” using procedural moves to block the vote." And then Reid uses a "procedural move" to pull the bill. Yet McCain is an obstructionist, and Reid is supposed to be some sort of hero? Harry Reid's overnight pizza party (that he decided to skip himself when he went home to get some sleep, he's too old for this crap, ya' know?) was just what it was: Political grandstanding which resulted in absolutely bupkus. Obstructionism is doing everything possible to scuttle the mission in Iraq, having our military heroes come home without finishing the job, and aiding and abetting the enemy, all without actually SAYING it and destroying the Democrat's political chances in 2008. As soon as Nancy Pelosi and "Dusty" Harry can figure out how to do that, then it's full steam reverse! “…in his floor speech this morning, Reid specifically names McCain as one of “a handful of dedicated obstructionists” using procedural moves to block the vote.”

And then Reid uses a “procedural move” to pull the bill.

Yet McCain is an obstructionist, and Reid is supposed to be some sort of hero?

Harry Reid’s overnight pizza party (that he decided to skip himself when he went home to get some sleep, he’s too old for this crap, ya’ know?) was just what it was: Political grandstanding which resulted in absolutely bupkus.

Obstructionism is doing everything possible to scuttle the mission in Iraq, having our military heroes come home without finishing the job, and aiding and abetting the enemy, all without actually SAYING it and destroying the Democrat’s political chances in 2008. As soon as Nancy Pelosi and “Dusty” Harry can figure out how to do that, then it’s full steam reverse!

]]> By: Bruce Gorton http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947360 Bruce Gorton Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:23:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947360 jayjaybear They would actually have to get into the newspapers and on air on Radio to actually do it first. Both media types are largely owned by the Reps. jayjaybear

They would actually have to get into the newspapers and on air on Radio to actually do it first. Both media types are largely owned by the Reps.

]]> By: Merlin http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947352 Merlin Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:20:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947352 #204 Comment by Liberal See Liberal Do — July 19, 2007 @ 12:23 am <em>Truth is they are just pulling stunts and saying anti-war gobblely gook to keep you morons voting for them.</em> <em>...it is in the national security interest of the United States that Iraq not become a failed state and a safe haven for terrorists.</em> That you name call says you are nothing but a worthless troll with nothing worthwhile to say. Your reading of this vote is skewed in order to incite people here from a self righteous position. You have to do better than this, troll. You are not only weak, but wrong. I will indulge your lack of understanding however, as I feel generous this morning. Read and learn. There is a difference between a failed state, and a failed invasion and occupation. Getting out of Iraq will stop the failed state from happening. And that is in our interest. We have already lost "Bush's war" and every day we stay costs more lives and money. Go collect your trollie RNC paycheck and go back under the bridge. #204 Comment by Liberal See Liberal Do — July 19, 2007 @ 12:23 am

Truth is they are just pulling stunts and saying anti-war gobblely gook to keep you morons voting for them.
…it is in the national security interest of the United States that Iraq not become a failed state and a safe haven for terrorists.

That you name call says you are nothing but a worthless troll with nothing worthwhile to say. Your reading of this vote is skewed in order to incite people here from a self righteous position. You have to do better than this, troll. You are not only weak, but wrong.

I will indulge your lack of understanding however, as I feel generous this morning. Read and learn.

There is a difference between a failed state, and a failed invasion and occupation. Getting out of Iraq will stop the failed state from happening. And that is in our interest. We have already lost “Bush’s war” and every day we stay costs more lives and money.

Go collect your trollie RNC paycheck and go back under the bridge.

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947224 had enough Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:20:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947224 And the republicans are going to run it into the ground that: <em>Democratic lead congress gets nothing done</em> while the neocon media goes along never stating the truth: <em>Because of obstruction from the republicans votes do not occur</em>. This is as low as it can get - playing politics with the lives of our military, those around the world and our future. some way, some how the truth has to get out to the masses. And the republicans are going to run it into the ground that: Democratic lead congress gets nothing done while the neocon media goes along never stating the truth: Because of obstruction from the republicans votes do not occur. This is as low as it can get – playing politics with the lives of our military, those around the world and our future. some way, some how the truth has to get out to the masses.

]]> By: Katie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947155 Katie Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:25:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947155 God our MSM is downright dangerous. MSNBC has a headline "Senate rejects plan to bring troops home". That makes it sound like there was a vote on the plan and it lost. How disingenuous can you get. That is an outright lie. I thought better of MSNBC, but other than Olberman it is becoming as worthless as Faux Noise. God our MSM is downright dangerous. MSNBC has a headline “Senate rejects plan to bring troops home”. That makes it sound like there was a vote on the plan and it lost. How disingenuous can you get. That is an outright lie. I thought better of MSNBC, but other than Olberman it is becoming as worthless as Faux Noise.

]]> By: Liberal See Liberal Do http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947153 Liberal See Liberal Do Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:23:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947153 You all think that your Dems Senators are trying for your sake to end the war. Truth is they are just pulling stunts and saying anti-war gobblely gook to keep you morons voting for them. Look at what they actually voted on and passed: <strong>Adopted: By 94 yeas to 3 nays (Vote No. 248), Cornyn Amendment No. 2100 (to Amendment No. 2011), to express the sense of the Senate that it is in the national security interest of the United States that Iraq not become a failed state and a safe haven for terrorists.</strong> This was voted on yesterday before the Big Show. You all think that your Dems Senators are trying for your sake to end the war. Truth is they are just pulling stunts and saying anti-war gobblely gook to keep you morons voting for them. Look at what they actually voted on and passed:
Adopted: By 94 yeas to 3 nays (Vote No. 248), Cornyn Amendment No. 2100 (to Amendment No. 2011), to express the sense of the Senate that it is in the national security interest of the United States that Iraq not become a failed state and a safe haven for terrorists.
This was voted on yesterday before the Big Show.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947106 Jay Randal Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:47:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947106 McCain must resign from the Senate, because he is stupid and senile! McCain must resign from the Senate, because he is stupid and senile!

]]> By: me http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947061 me Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:45:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947061 Jesus H. Christ, I hate republicans. Jesus H. Christ, I hate republicans.

]]> By: Marcus Aurelius http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947034 Marcus Aurelius Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:07:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947034 <blockquote>Our news media is an embarrassment. Comment by Katie — July 18, 2007 @ 7:53 pm</blockquote> When you're dealing with a 7th grade audience, you only need an 8th grade education to look smart and informed.

Our news media is an embarrassment.

Comment by Katie — July 18, 2007 @ 7:53 pm

When you’re dealing with a 7th grade audience, you only need an 8th grade education to look smart and informed.

]]> By: LibertyLover http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947014 LibertyLover Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:32:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947014 I'm ashamed of my state's senators. And we're stuck with them for 3 and 5 more years. ICK I’m ashamed of my state’s senators. And we’re stuck with them for 3 and 5 more years. ICK

]]> By: Merlin http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3947012 Merlin Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:31:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3947012 #98 Comment by had enough — July 18, 2007 @ 9:12 pm <strong>And… as the media does not report who votes for what…as they used to(?)… we must EXPOSE this bull crap the republicans pull during the ‘08 campaigns.</strong> Starting NOW! #98 Comment by had enough — July 18, 2007 @ 9:12 pm

And… as the media does not report who votes for what…as they used to(?)… we must EXPOSE this bull crap the republicans pull during the ‘08 campaigns.

Starting NOW!

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3946999 had enough Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:12:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3946999 <em>Kyl, McCain Obstruct Defense Bill, Then Dishonestly Blame Reid For Not Funding The Troops</em> And... as the media does not report who votes for what...<em>as they used to(?)</em>... we must <strong>EXPOSE</strong> this bull crap the republicans pull during the '08 campaigns. Kyl, McCain Obstruct Defense Bill, Then Dishonestly Blame Reid For Not Funding The Troops

And… as the media does not report who votes for what…as they used to(?)… we must EXPOSE this bull crap the republicans pull during the ‘08 campaigns.

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3946998 Devil's Advocate Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:10:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3946998 McCain is a has-been. At this point, he is the only one not to admit that he is burned toast as a presidential candidate. As for Kyl, he is one of the lowest of the low among the GOP scumbags. These two pieces of trash just chose to keep our soldiers being slaughtered in Iraq to protect their demented messianic maniac of a president, and to not have to admit that they are complicit to war crimes. McCain is a has-been. At this point, he is the only one not to admit that he is burned toast as a presidential candidate. As for Kyl, he is one of the lowest of the low among the GOP scumbags. These two pieces of trash just chose to keep our soldiers being slaughtered in Iraq to protect their demented messianic maniac of a president, and to not have to admit that they are complicit to war crimes.

]]> By: Merlin http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3946966 Merlin Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:21:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3946966 #190Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 7:17 pm <em>I didn’t format that post in the Pee-approved format. Sorry.</em> Comment by Egreggious — July 18, 2007 @ 7:19 pm <em>I didn’t format that post in the Pee-approved format. Sorry.</em> Comment by Egreggious <em>S’okay.</em> #191 Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 7:20 pm Katy, Maybe you did not read the follow up on TRoS original post. However, I do agree with you that it would be great if TP would do that. PS. Hope this is clear. Posting multiple comments like this can be confusing. Check above if I screwed it above #190Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
I didn’t format that post in the Pee-approved format. Sorry.
Comment by Egreggious — July 18, 2007 @ 7:19 pm

I didn’t format that post in the Pee-approved format. Sorry.
Comment by Egreggious
S’okay.
#191 Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 18, 2007 @ 7:20 pm

Katy,
Maybe you did not read the follow up on TRoS original post. However, I do agree with you that it would be great if TP would do that.

PS. Hope this is clear. Posting multiple comments like this can be confusing. Check above if I screwed it above

]]> By: Katie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3946913 Katie Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:57:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3946913 "That’s odd… I didn’t make this comment… I’ve been name-jacked!" It looks like Mr. Pee and his friends are name-jacking everyone on this thread. I think that they have a plan here. First they post something that is different from what they would normally post. Then they yell that they have been name-jacked. Then they name-jack other poster's identities. What they are doing is trying to foment discontent to that people will leave this site. And, I think they are winning. TP: If you don't want this site to die, you need to come up with a registration system quickly. The trolls are currently winning. “That’s odd… I didn’t make this comment… I’ve been name-jacked!”

It looks like Mr. Pee and his friends are name-jacking everyone on this thread.

I think that they have a plan here. First they post something that is different from what they would normally post. Then they yell that they have been name-jacked. Then they name-jack other poster’s identities. What they are doing is trying to foment discontent to that people will leave this site. And, I think they are winning.

TP: If you don’t want this site to die, you need to come up with a registration system quickly. The trolls are currently winning.

]]> By: Katie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3946897 Katie Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:53:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3946897 I think that the Democrats should introduce a military funding bill that funds anything that has to do with supporting our troops like pay raises, medical benefits, etc. Everything else should stay off the table until such time as the Bush Administration comes up with a plan to end our occupation of Iraq. That would put the Lemming Republics into a real box. Reid has a point. Why should he allow them to vote on this bill when they have filibustered the Reed/Levin bill? Why do the Repubics get to choose what gets voted on and what doesn't? And what is it with the word filibuster? I was listening to the news on my way home from work tonight and the news person (not really!) was talking about how the Republics "blocked" the Democrats from passing the bill. That was wrong on two fronts. They didn't "block" they filibustered and it was not passing, it was voting. Our news media is an embarrassment. I think that the Democrats should introduce a military funding bill that funds anything that has to do with supporting our troops like pay raises, medical benefits, etc. Everything else should stay off the table until such time as the Bush Administration comes up with a plan to end our occupation of Iraq. That would put the Lemming Republics into a real box.

Reid has a point. Why should he allow them to vote on this bill when they have filibustered the Reed/Levin bill? Why do the Repubics get to choose what gets voted on and what doesn’t?

And what is it with the word filibuster? I was listening to the news on my way home from work tonight and the news person (not really!) was talking about how the Republics “blocked” the Democrats from passing the bill. That was wrong on two fronts. They didn’t “block” they filibustered and it was not passing, it was voting. Our news media is an embarrassment.

]]> By: veritas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3946824 veritas Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:28:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3946824 Democrats, the modern day party of defeat! Democrats, the modern day party of defeat!

]]> By: Jeannie See http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/comment-page-4/#comment-3946818 Jeannie See Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:26:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/18/kyl-mccain-dishonesty/#comment-3946818 Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but it was the retards that blocked the vote yes? Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but it was the retards that blocked the vote yes?

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