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	<title>Comments on: Washington Times Propagates False Headline: &#8216;Senate Rejects Iraq Pullout&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Fed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3949760</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from the 1970&#039;s congressional investigation of Moon&#039;s organization:

http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/m/moonies/fraser-report/index12.html 

&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(Wood) said that Moon, through the UC and its numerous front organizations, wanted to acquire enough influence in America to be able to &quot;dictate policy on major issues, to influence legislation, and move into electoral politics.&quot; In the United States, the political goals of the UC and those of the KCIA &quot;overlap so thoroughly as to display no difference at all.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from the 1970&#8217;s congressional investigation of Moon&#8217;s organization:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/m/moonies/fraser-report/index12.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/m/moonies/fraser-report/index12.html</a> </p>
<p><i><strong>(Wood) said that Moon, through the UC and its numerous front organizations, wanted to acquire enough influence in America to be able to &#8220;dictate policy on major issues, to influence legislation, and move into electoral politics.&#8221; In the United States, the political goals of the UC and those of the KCIA &#8220;overlap so thoroughly as to display no difference at all.&#8221;</strong></i><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3949760', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3949752</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, Moon&#039;s followers know exactly how his manipulation of our political system has talken place - how the con has worked - but the American public is not allowed in on the ruse.

quoting Moon:

&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So please take spiritual dominion in your states. You can proclaim spiritually to the government leaders, &quot;I am the elder brother, you are the younger brother.&quot; Teach them what you have learned. I invited many congressmen and senators to come to conferences to be educated. Though they may not proclaim openly, many of them support me. Through the Washington Times, Insight magazine, and the World and I, I have been preparing the foundation for you to influence America.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

[Leaders&#039; Conference - Sun Myung Moon
November 23, 1989]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, Moon&#8217;s followers know exactly how his manipulation of our political system has talken place &#8211; how the con has worked &#8211; but the American public is not allowed in on the ruse.</p>
<p>quoting Moon:</p>
<p><i><strong>So please take spiritual dominion in your states. You can proclaim spiritually to the government leaders, &#8220;I am the elder brother, you are the younger brother.&#8221; Teach them what you have learned. I invited many congressmen and senators to come to conferences to be educated. Though they may not proclaim openly, many of them support me. Through the Washington Times, Insight magazine, and the World and I, I have been preparing the foundation for you to influence America.</strong></i></p>
<p>[Leaders' Conference - Sun Myung Moon<br />
November 23, 1989]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3949752', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3949738</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quoting Moon:

http://www.unification.net/2000/20000122.html 

&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In 1982, in accordance with the will of God, I founded The Washington Times here in Washington, D.C. Ever since then, this newspaper has led American public opinion as a conservative news medium showing the path that America must follow.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quoting Moon:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unification.net/2000/20000122.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.unification.net/2000/20000122.html</a> </p>
<p><i><strong>In 1982, in accordance with the will of God, I founded The Washington Times here in Washington, D.C. Ever since then, this newspaper has led American public opinion as a conservative news medium showing the path that America must follow.</strong></i><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3949738', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3949048</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;some guy wrote a blog entry saying that there are no good democratic candidates for prez!!?? Obama, Clinton, Edwards? Câ€™mon!  

Comment by where left is right â€” July 19, 2007&quot;

Ha, ha, ha, ha!  Obama?  What has the muslim done?  Clinton?  What has she done?  Edwards?  Ha, ha, ha, ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;some guy wrote a blog entry saying that there are no good democratic candidates for prez!!?? Obama, Clinton, Edwards? Câ€™mon!  </p>
<p>Comment by where left is right â€” July 19, 2007&#8243;</p>
<p>Ha, ha, ha, ha!  Obama?  What has the muslim done?  Clinton?  What has she done?  Edwards?  Ha, ha, ha, ha!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3949048', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, but, the Democrats have the majority!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but, the Democrats have the majority!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3949041', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: where left is right</title>
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		<dc:creator>where left is right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some guy wrote a blog entry saying that there are no good democratic candidates for prez!!?? Obama, Clinton, Edwards? C&#039;mon! http://www.mypetpeeves.com/plog/index.php/archives/2514 please help me out folks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some guy wrote a blog entry saying that there are no good democratic candidates for prez!!?? Obama, Clinton, Edwards? C&#8217;mon! <a href="http://www.mypetpeeves.com/plog/index.php/archives/2514" rel="nofollow">http://www.mypetpeeves.com/plog/index.php/archives/2514</a> please help me out folks!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948912', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bush Goes To Hell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948635</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Bush Goes To Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Face it, folks...

You are NO LONGER &quot;debating&quot; or conversing with &quot;trolls&quot;.

These people are &quot;psyops&quot;.

In an earlier story, Rupert Murdoch was revealed today to be the
&quot;24th Member of Blair&#039;s Cabinet&quot;:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/murdoch-blair/&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Face it, folks&#8230;</p>
<p>You are NO LONGER &#8220;debating&#8221; or conversing with &#8220;trolls&#8221;.</p>
<p>These people are &#8220;psyops&#8221;.</p>
<p>In an earlier story, Rupert Murdoch was revealed today to be the<br />
&#8220;24th Member of Blair&#8217;s Cabinet&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/murdoch-blair/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/murdoch-blair/</a></strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948635', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948538</link>
		<dc:creator>PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean O&#039;Neil

Actually, I think I&#039;ll end as you began:

Uh, how about a REAL HONEST view.

Sean O&#039;Neil came to the TP website.

Sean O&#039;Neil offered that he knew a way for the Democrats in Congress to stop the war.

Sean O&#039;Neil refused over many interactions to state specifics, referring only to his own website.

So there was NO SINGLE ASPECT of ending the war in this charade of Sean O&#039;Neil&#039;s.

Instead of playing Spin The Blame onto the progressives, how about offering well thought out and articulated options which are alluded to instead of stalling and deflecting?

If youâ€™re going to â€œstate expertiseâ€ then at least you should focus on the â€œstateâ€ part, even if you skip the â€œexpertiseâ€ part.

Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean O&#8217;Neil</p>
<p>Actually, I think I&#8217;ll end as you began:</p>
<p>Uh, how about a REAL HONEST view.</p>
<p>Sean O&#8217;Neil came to the TP website.</p>
<p>Sean O&#8217;Neil offered that he knew a way for the Democrats in Congress to stop the war.</p>
<p>Sean O&#8217;Neil refused over many interactions to state specifics, referring only to his own website.</p>
<p>So there was NO SINGLE ASPECT of ending the war in this charade of Sean O&#8217;Neil&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Instead of playing Spin The Blame onto the progressives, how about offering well thought out and articulated options which are alluded to instead of stalling and deflecting?</p>
<p>If youâ€™re going to â€œstate expertiseâ€ then at least you should focus on the â€œstateâ€ part, even if you skip the â€œexpertiseâ€ part.</p>
<p>Sheesh.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948538', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948490</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ending on a strong note!  Mighty fine work, PLC.  Roger that, Cmdr Jesus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ending on a strong note!  Mighty fine work, PLC.  Roger that, Cmdr Jesus!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948490', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948483</link>
		<dc:creator>PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean O&#039;Neil

&quot;Save me time&quot;  ROTFL!  You&#039;ve wasted a lot of my time.  And if you had simply made your points here, where you came, MANY of us here could have the benefit of your wisdom and insight and you could have saved us ALL a lot of time.  

I can only conclude, with my limited logical and reasoning ability, that you are trying awfully hard to direct people to your website and/or you are simply trying to derail this thread and/or you are setting up a way to bash progressives.  Thus, &quot;troll&quot; I label thee.  I KNOW I&#039;m done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean O&#8217;Neil</p>
<p>&#8220;Save me time&#8221;  ROTFL!  You&#8217;ve wasted a lot of my time.  And if you had simply made your points here, where you came, MANY of us here could have the benefit of your wisdom and insight and you could have saved us ALL a lot of time.  </p>
<p>I can only conclude, with my limited logical and reasoning ability, that you are trying awfully hard to direct people to your website and/or you are simply trying to derail this thread and/or you are setting up a way to bash progressives.  Thus, &#8220;troll&#8221; I label thee.  I KNOW I&#8217;m done.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948483', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948481</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My education and experience were fully detailed in the response to upside00 that got censored.

Presumably that&#039;s to enable further denigration by false implication.

And you maintain that I am the one employing logical fallacy.  That&#039;s rich.  And I notice you haven&#039;t pointed to any logical fallacy in my writings!  Doubly rich!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My education and experience were fully detailed in the response to upside00 that got censored.</p>
<p>Presumably that&#8217;s to enable further denigration by false implication.</p>
<p>And you maintain that I am the one employing logical fallacy.  That&#8217;s rich.  And I notice you haven&#8217;t pointed to any logical fallacy in my writings!  Doubly rich!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948481', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948451</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yeah, I&#039;ll own up to going to his site.  Couldn&#039;t stand reading it...oh well.   Part of writing is presenting your argument so others&#039;ll read it.  That&#039;s the whole point of English Composition I in most colleges.  I wonder if Sean has passed that class yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah, I&#8217;ll own up to going to his site.  Couldn&#8217;t stand reading it&#8230;oh well.   Part of writing is presenting your argument so others&#8217;ll read it.  That&#8217;s the whole point of English Composition I in most colleges.  I wonder if Sean has passed that class yet.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948451', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948449</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, you have to point to a precise logical fallacy in order to make your accusation stick.

Come on, Jeremy.  You&#039;re acting like an amateur.  Either man up and debate like an adult, or be dismissed by those who visit these threads.

Your choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, you have to point to a precise logical fallacy in order to make your accusation stick.</p>
<p>Come on, Jeremy.  You&#8217;re acting like an amateur.  Either man up and debate like an adult, or be dismissed by those who visit these threads.</p>
<p>Your choice.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948449', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948442</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, he brings that up while I&#039;m composing my message.   Well, now that we&#039;re at slinging logical fallacy accusations at each other, I think I&#039;m done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, he brings that up while I&#8217;m composing my message.   Well, now that we&#8217;re at slinging logical fallacy accusations at each other, I think I&#8217;m done.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948442', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948440</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post 102 says it all.

Not pushing my website, PLC.  Not pushing it at all.  Trying to save you some time.  Not even sure how I could possibly do anything negative with your visit to my site.  It&#039;s on Blogger.  See the URL?  

You don&#039;t want to go there, fine by me.  It&#039;s just another comment on your claim to being progressive or open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post 102 says it all.</p>
<p>Not pushing my website, PLC.  Not pushing it at all.  Trying to save you some time.  Not even sure how I could possibly do anything negative with your visit to my site.  It&#8217;s on Blogger.  See the URL?  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t want to go there, fine by me.  It&#8217;s just another comment on your claim to being progressive or open.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948440', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948431</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I was starting to have my doubts about Sean being Jake for a moment there, but he&#039;s going back to Jake&#039;s playbook.

Constructing a Strawman:  Creating a false point from the opposition, in order to attack that point and not the opposition&#039;s real point.  A logical fallacy.    PLC never once said that your blog was commercial, Sean.  He said you were doing a hard sell, which you are doing right now.    Hard Sell does not equal Commercial.   Another pair of terms I&#039;ve seen used for what you&#039;re doing is &#039;Blog Whoring&#039; and &#039;Plugging Blog&#039;.    

Ad Hominem  Attack:  Attacking the poster directly instead of his argument.  Another logical fallacy.   Calling us Rovian operatives, &#039;stupid f-cks&#039;, etc.   A way not to have to actually have your point destroyed, in your mind.

Drop the logical fallacies if you want to debate.  Clean up your language.  Act like a mature adult, not like a petulant teenager, or a troll, and you may get more a receptive audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I was starting to have my doubts about Sean being Jake for a moment there, but he&#8217;s going back to Jake&#8217;s playbook.</p>
<p>Constructing a Strawman:  Creating a false point from the opposition, in order to attack that point and not the opposition&#8217;s real point.  A logical fallacy.    PLC never once said that your blog was commercial, Sean.  He said you were doing a hard sell, which you are doing right now.    Hard Sell does not equal Commercial.   Another pair of terms I&#8217;ve seen used for what you&#8217;re doing is &#8216;Blog Whoring&#8217; and &#8216;Plugging Blog&#8217;.    </p>
<p>Ad Hominem  Attack:  Attacking the poster directly instead of his argument.  Another logical fallacy.   Calling us Rovian operatives, &#8217;stupid f-cks&#8217;, etc.   A way not to have to actually have your point destroyed, in your mind.</p>
<p>Drop the logical fallacies if you want to debate.  Clean up your language.  Act like a mature adult, not like a petulant teenager, or a troll, and you may get more a receptive audience.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948431', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948426</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Straw Man!

Destroy that Straw Man!</description>
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<p>Destroy that Straw Man!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948426', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948412</link>
		<dc:creator>PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean O&#039;Neil

Again, why are you pushing your website.  I don&#039;t need to justify why I don&#039;t want to go there.  You came to THIS website and said you had information.  So, share it, here.

Again, you insult my level of &quot;progressive&quot;.  You&#039;ve already insulted my level of Christianity.  All that&#039;s left is my patriotism and you&#039;ve insulted my whole screen name.</description>
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<p>Again, why are you pushing your website.  I don&#8217;t need to justify why I don&#8217;t want to go there.  You came to THIS website and said you had information.  So, share it, here.</p>
<p>Again, you insult my level of &#8220;progressive&#8221;.  You&#8217;ve already insulted my level of Christianity.  All that&#8217;s left is my patriotism and you&#8217;ve insulted my whole screen name.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948412', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948410</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLC,

You&#039;re comical.  You have not once directly responded to my statements, instead you have chosen EVERY TIME to paraphrase them in a lie, and then criticize or denigrate the fabricated view.

We call that &quot;straw man&quot; argument in logic and rhetoric.  I will let you keep using it, because it simply exposes your intent and goals here, which is to be Sniper No. 2.

Sniper No. 2 is equally ineffective, only he comes from the pseudo-moralist faux-Christian perspective.  Most intelligent objective readers will be insulted by him equally as much as they are by Sniper No. 1.

Good work, TP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLC,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re comical.  You have not once directly responded to my statements, instead you have chosen EVERY TIME to paraphrase them in a lie, and then criticize or denigrate the fabricated view.</p>
<p>We call that &#8220;straw man&#8221; argument in logic and rhetoric.  I will let you keep using it, because it simply exposes your intent and goals here, which is to be Sniper No. 2.</p>
<p>Sniper No. 2 is equally ineffective, only he comes from the pseudo-moralist faux-Christian perspective.  Most intelligent objective readers will be insulted by him equally as much as they are by Sniper No. 1.</p>
<p>Good work, TP.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948410', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/19/wtimes-headline-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-3948402</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sniper patrol is ineffective.  Replace sniper.  Republic of Stupidity is too juvenile.  Intelligent readers will find him insulting and stupid, ironically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sniper patrol is ineffective.  Replace sniper.  Republic of Stupidity is too juvenile.  Intelligent readers will find him insulting and stupid, ironically.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3948402', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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