Ed Koch ‘bailing out’ on support for war.
By on Jul 20th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
Ed Koch ‘bailing out’ on support for war.
Last year, former New York City mayor Ed Koch attacked war critics for their attempts to “weaken the president“:
There is something terribly wrong with people seeking to demean and weaken the president in war time, thereby strengthening our country’s enemies. As a result of the language and tactics of those opposed to our presence in Iraq, our enemies have been emboldened, believing the American public to be sharply divided on the war, and in fact at war with itself.
But in the Politico today, Koch bails out:
I’m bailing out. I will no longer defend the policy of keeping U.S. troops in Iraq to assist the Iraqi central government in the ongoing civil war.
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Of course with no apology or mention that those against the war he attacked earlier might have been right all along.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:03 pmWhoa whoa whoa – Ed Koch is still alive?
July 20th, 2007 at 2:03 pmI don’t think so, buddy. If you criticize the criticizers, you can’t bail out. It’s one thing to support the president then change your mind, but if you do so after equating others who have done so to our enemies, you are a hypocrite.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:04 pmFor Bush, one thing never changes in Iraq:
July 20th, 2007 at 2:05 pm“We’re Making Progress.”
Koch–you tool. Take your Grampa Munster ass back under the rock where you were hiding. It’s too late to redeem yourself.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:05 pmEveryday it is someone new coming to there senses. No matter what the Military/Corporate complex does, the people always wake up.
I know many of you are impatient and want change now, but take a breath, take a step back and see the progress.
YAHOOOOOO
July 20th, 2007 at 2:05 pmI know many of you are impatient and want change now, but take a breath, take a step back and see the progress.
Comment by captjashook — July 20, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
You’re right. We must be patient.
It’s just tough waiting while our Soldiers continue to die.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:09 pmSince that isn’t what Bush is doing, it doesn’t really make a difference, Mr. P.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:10 pmKoch will be the first person punished under the July 17 Executive order. How dare he threaten stabilization efforts in Iraq by bailing out!!! Cheney is on his way to see you, Ed.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:10 pmComment by Ben B
I don’t think so, Ben. He is entirely correct. There is something wrong with people questioning leadership in time of war or national crisis.
That something wrong is that this President is a complete idiot, smug bastard.
He stole his first election and did so no the back of the worst partisan attack on a President in history (ie… the lame impeachment of Clinton).
That something wrong is a country that no longer respects or gives its so-called leadership any credibility.
That something wrong is the fact that everyone knows, deep down inside, that this war is immoral.
When we go to war, it should be as a last resort. That has always been the American way.
Koch was right, he just couldn’t put his finger on it properly.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:10 pmRemember when it was September? Then yesterday, it was November?
Now, it’s next summer.
“It’s going to take through (this) summer, into the fall, to defeat the extremists in my battle space, and it’s going to take me into next spring and summer to generate this sustained security presence.” – Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, commander of the 3rd Infantry Division
July 20th, 2007 at 2:11 pmYeah, this is just the next step in what will be an unfortunately all-too-long process. In September, Petraeus will report “signs of progress,” a few more Republican CongessCritters will bail, but enough will remain loyal to be able to continue to block any significant changes.
But if we keep the pressure on, more and more will bail and the Republicans will pay a price for this fiasco next year.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:12 pmAnother rat off the sinking ship…
(of course, the White House will claim that Ed Koch is “irrelevant” — same as they did with Carter)
July 20th, 2007 at 2:13 pm# 7: Do you expect an answer? Do you talk to yourself, much?
July 20th, 2007 at 2:14 pmThe Iraq war effort has done nothing strengthen the respect of the U.S. internationally. Ed Koch should, more than bailing out, should support the better alternative of fighting global poverty. Koch should be like the 78% of americans that believe fighting poverty would also fight terrorism [Borgen Project].
July 20th, 2007 at 2:14 pmComment by Egreggious
People often say this. As a former soldier in a conflict, I have to say, don’t pity the soldiers so much. They knew and know what they are getting into and many of them thrive on the feeling that they are taking action in the world.
I pity more the civilians and innocents whose lives are being destroyed.
I do not pity terrorists or war-instigators (like this president). However, it is in my best interests to understand why they fight, so that I can find a way to get them to put down their arms.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:14 pm“You Lefties just don’t learn, do you?”
ROFL…. Oh, the irony….
July 20th, 2007 at 2:15 pmWhen is someone going to point out that the “War on Ter-rah” isn’t a war in the classic sense ? It is a fabrication seized as an opportunity to make the prez beyond reproach.
And would Koch-classic (you can’t criticise the prez in war) have us do if the prez should enter the country in an immoral action ?
July 20th, 2007 at 2:16 pmDoes he see an election on the horizon? Maybe, maybe.
IGNORE THE TROLLS – Mr. President, CT_V1, Eck etc. are destroying your site, they should be banned.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:16 pm“the Republicans will pay a price for this fiasco next year.”
Of course, what really sucks is that our soldiers will pay the price for this fiasco until that time. And we ourselves will pay the price for this fiasco for years.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:17 pmI guess kool aid drinker, koch, started to taste the dregs of bush’s botched adventure in iraq.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:19 pmI am such a manly, man, I can’t stand it.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:21 pmI pity more the civilians and innocents whose lives are being destroyed.
Comment by captjashook — July 20, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
It is true I should have mentioned the Iraqi civilian deaths as well. I thought about it, but didn’t write it because I thought it would ignite the trolls.
There will be plenty of civilian deaths after we leave Iraq, and we will argue for centuries about whether there were more deaths or less as a result of our withdrawal.
But it is clear to me that at the very least American military deaths will be reduced by our departure from Iraq, and that is why I only mentioned them.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:22 pmMaybe Koch realized that his previous talking points were nothing but stupid talking points.
Reality seems to take a long time to set in for some people. At this rate, in about 20 years even some die hard republicans will be able to admit that the Bush Jr. administration is a complete failure and that Iraq was a huge mistake.
Ehh…maybe 40 years or just before they take their last living breath….
It’s really hard to admit you’re wrong, and to a certain percentage of Americans, it’s nothing short of IMPOSSIBLE.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:22 pm“At this rate, in about 20 years even some die hard republicans will be able to admit that the Bush Jr. administration is a complete failure and that Iraq was a huge mistake”
Nope. They’ll be here insisting that we could have “won” the war and that it was those cowardly Democrats and that evil “liberal” MSM who actually “lost” the war.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:27 pmThat’s great.
Shame his opinion has absolutely ZERO relevance, but hey.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:28 pmPeople are slowly coming to their senses.
The Republicans’ backs are against the wall. As usual they are swinging with lies upon lies. Since they own the media, the truth will not come out.
Pakistan is becoming unstabled. Lebanon is already there. Jordon and Saudia Arabia backing the Sunnis in Irag, and Hamas is controlling Palestine. Israel and the US are less safer, and Iran will be probably bombed by the wishes of Darth Cheney.
Neocons want World War Three.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:29 pmYou’re right. We must be patient.
It’s just tough waiting while our Soldiers continue to die.
Comment by Egreggious — July 20, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
My sentiments exactly, Egg.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:29 pmYou Lefties just don’t learn, do you?
Comment by Mr. President †— July 20, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
The weak-willed puppet of the darkness returns to “educate” us once again…
July 20th, 2007 at 2:30 pmPaulB, exactly. And that’ll fuel the next batch of Neocons, assuming we’re still here. And they’ll scream unfair comparison when their pet war gets compared to Iraq (like Iraq is to Vietnam).
July 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pmYou Lefties just don’t learn, do you?
Comment by Mr. President †— July 20, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Get your ass to Iraq, sniveler. Learn something.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:32 pmRight PaulB – its precedent was set in 1918 – Germany had its ’stab-in-the-back’ theorists who wanted to blame someone for their defeat in WW1. The US may also experience a ‘Weimar Moment’….
July 20th, 2007 at 2:32 pmThat’s what really sucks. The debate and the patience are necessary but, in the meantime, the consequences are very real.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:32 pmPaulB, please don’t respond to trolls like Mr Pee ©. He’s just here to amuse himself at our expense and his posts have amply demonstrated his indifference to logic, courtesy and reason.
You are one of the best, most articulate posters here, and one of the best troll hunters too, but please ignore Mr Pee, and whatever guise in which he should emerge next.
I think it’s our last chance to save TP if they refuse to institute registration.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:34 pmSpit take – sound post.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:37 pmZooey, Mr. P can’t sign up to fight in Iraq. I doubt he’s old enough. He’s probably not fit enough either — being 320lbs, scarfing down twinkies in front of his computer, with his picture of Karl Rove with unmentionable stains all over it lit by a single uncovered lightbulb, the only light in his mom’s basement? The only thing he can do to make himself look good is come here and irritate us adults. The Army would say he’s unfit, the navy might think about taking him for all of 5 seconds (fat floats), the airforce doesn’t have a single plane he can fit in, and he’s too stupid to fix ‘em on the ground, and the marines? They’d look at him critically and say, “We’re looking for a few GOOD men, boy. You ain’t it, get lost.”
:)
July 20th, 2007 at 2:37 pmGood, Ed got the telegram from the Clintons with the words “Ft. Marcy Park” on it.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pmEd Koch? Ed Koch?
The biggest closet case in American history is pulling out his immense support of the war????????
Well, I guess it is all over then.
Maybe we should hold out and see what Nathan Lane has to say.
Jack Jett
July 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pmhttp://www.jackejett.com
Adding to spit takes post – TP was shown and quoted on CNN today. Jeanne Moos on men who cry. Boehner was on and TP posters were shown in response: SkedA (sp) with the ‘onion in the pocket’ quote. Keep it clean, keep it relevant and you will be heard.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:39 pmI’m rather astounded that the professional trolls here are allowed to destroy every single thread.
I accidentally posted twice, on the topic, and both posts were removed, rather than just the one that was obviously accidental.
I’m almost ready to give up on this site. I’m not one for moderation of posts, and I generally abide by the “ignore the trolls” adage, but to have a post of mine, that was on topic and informational, completely removed for absolutely no reason tells me I probably don’t belong here.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:43 pmActually, I misspoke, this is a matter of pattern recognition.
Comment by Mr. President †— July 20, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Tell us what you know of “pattern recognition”.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:45 pmAdding to spit takes post – TP was shown and quoted on CNN today. Jeanne Moos on men who cry. Boehner was on and TP posters were shown in response: SkedA (sp) with the ‘onion in the pocket’ quote. Keep it clean, keep it relevant and you will be heard.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — July 20, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
You mean they didn’t quote my son? Oh boy, he’s going to take it out on me!
July 20th, 2007 at 2:46 pmFor all the talk about how unpopular Congress is, Dems are still quite popular and Republicans aren’t.
CNN poll, June 29, 2007.
The Republican Party
Favorable 36%, Unfavorable 53%, Never Heard of 1%, No Opinion 9%
The Democratic Party
Favorable 51%, Unfavorable 38%, Never Heard of 1%, No Opinion 9%
http://i.a.cnn.net/ cnn/ 2007/ images/ 06/ 29/ rel7e.pdf
Also shown in today’s New York Times poll:
In general, is your opinion of the Republican Party favorable or not favorable?
Favorable 38%, Unfavorable 56%, Don’t Know 5%
In general, is your opinion of the Democratic party favorable or not favorable?
Favorable 52%, Unfavorable 41%, Don’t Know 7%
http://graphics.nytimes.com/ packages/ pdf/ politics/ 20070718_poll_results.pdf
Zing! SU*K it trolls!
July 20th, 2007 at 2:48 pmGet your ass to Iraq, sniveler. Learn something.
Comment by Zooey
Trolls are invariably chickenhawks, you ever noticed? But, cough cough, they’ve always got some good reason. Too old (”Crikey, I did my service in Korea”) or they’ve got a bum knee or a bad eardrum or something else dire that prevents them from signing up to kill Eye-raqis. Or, like that great video of the YAFers, they’ve just got more important things to do, like go to college and make a lot of money. But, by god, they’ll thump on surrender monkeys all day long on the keyboard.
Cowards, every damn one.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:50 pmTo Everyone,
It is dispicable that this administration still uses the “support the troops” montra when there is a mountain of evidence that shows that they do otherwise. They cut funding for veteran benefits while coming up with more money for Haliburton, not giving the proper equipment, withholding lifesaving vehicles, increasing tour lengths…etc…I can go on and on, but that is not the issue either.
The Republicans are going to hold out until they get the Webb-Amendment and Levin-Reid ammendment (and probably a few others) out of the funding bill. The Webb Amendment gives the troops rest and the LR amendment puts some deadlines on the Presidents open-ended war. The majority of Americans want out of Iraq (or at least an exit strategy). They don’t want the Webb amendment passed because the military will not be able to sustain its current force without a draft – and a draft would probably have this war ended sooner than legislation, and they don’t want the LR amendment because it would more directly end the war. The funding is being blocked because the President and the Republicans DO NOT WANT TO END THE WAR.
THIS PART IS FOR ALL OF YOU! Do YOU support the troops? They do not need you to have a sticker on your car – here is how you do it. If you support this occupation, you write your congressmen and demand that they institute a draft to help OUR TROOPS get the necessary rest they need – AND – you march off to the nearest recruiting station and join the military to pick up the slack for the troops that have paid, IN BLOOD, more than their share! I will respect your decision even though I believe you are ignoring critical facts. To do otherwise means one of three things:
1. You are too proud to admit your mistake and are willing to let our troops die for you to save face OR
2. You agree that it is vital to this country, but don’t think this country is worth fighting for OR
3. YOU ARE A COWARD who is not willing to fight or sacrifice for a cause that you truly believe in and think is detrimental to this country.
IN ALL CASES YOU ARE NOT SUPPORTING THE TROOPS! and I beg you to truthfully evaluate your motives.
I believe this occupation of Iraq is wrong. I had hoped we could repair our mistake but it is taking our country down with it, so I am now working to end it. If you agree with me, then you should be voicing your opinion, calling your senators, and discussing it with reasonable people that may not have all the facts yet, so we can turn this country around before there is nothing left of the foundation this country was built on.
I have asked over and over again why the supporters of this occupation (many of which are of military age) have not signed up to fight and have not gotten an answer. I am sure many of you will think of a reason why your blood is more important than mine, my friends, and those bravely fighting in our country’s name – but then you haven’t been truthful with yourself and I can’t help you. I just hope the rest of us are strong enough to pull your weight and get us through this mess.
I deplore you to be HONEST!
July 20th, 2007 at 2:53 pm“I’m bailing out.”
At a time when rhetoric is so fascinating, it might be interesting to note the wording Koch uses; to bail out is to jump out of an aircraft (with a parachute). It represents a practical action of abandoning a damaged ship that is beyond the pilot’s ability to control. It is used as a last resort to save human lives when all other attempts to prevent disaster have been estimated to fail.
Very appropriate.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:53 pmhowerver who is Ed Koch and why should we really care if a has-been former mayor of New York no longer supports Bush’s folly in Iraqnam? Its nice to see another Repugnican come around, but lets wait until Colin Powell or some Repugnican who really matters bails on Bush’s folly.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:54 pm“a has-been former mayor of New York”
Being a has-been former mayor of New York is all that is required to float to the top of the GOP candidate cesspool these days.
July 20th, 2007 at 2:56 pmI frequent two different liberal blogs (and when I can stand it, Redstate on the Conservative side though I never post there), and of all the blogs, Think Progress is definitely the one most overrun with Trolls.
On AmericaBlog, we get our trolls, but they usually get run off quick by the blog’s administrator. He edits posts that are offensive, warns the offending troll, and bans trolls quickly. AmericaBlog 2.0 seems to be not too far in the future, and that blog promises even more control on the disruptive elements.
On Redstate, they’re even more anti-troll (and anti-liberal, but that’s another matter.) A troll posts there, and ‘Moe’ comes down on them within one post. Granted, he comes down on legitimate liberal debaters too, but that’s par for their course.
They use Registration, which is something ThinkProgress should really get into using. Theirs looks to be a basic e-mail linked registration system, but even that helps to keep the multi-posters in line. Also, changing names over and over again is quashed by that, AND the poster’s name is displayed in the blue titlebar for each comment. If this Blog were set up like that, I bet half our trolls would disappear and the other half would start screaming that nobody ever reads their post.
Imagine this scenario:
That would be just wonderful. :) WHY does Think Progress not do this? I’m not asking for our own Moe, just for a system that will let us, the users, deal with Mr. P. and his kind. They can’t namejack other people (especially dead soldiers) anymore, can’t change their name over and over again to create hassle, and if they really get out of line, we can click that ‘Report Abuse’ button to draw admin’s to their foulups.
TP? Are you listening?
July 20th, 2007 at 3:00 pm“There is something terribly wrong with people seeking to demean and weaken the president in war time, thereby strengthening our country’s enemies.”
in a democracy, free speech must continue, even through wartime… and we cannot deem the president to be “infallible”
July 20th, 2007 at 3:00 pmErr, that blockquote above should have looked like:
July 20th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
So much for being a die hard fan…
http://www.americanlegends.blogspot.com/
July 20th, 2007 at 3:04 pmIt’s not so much that we should care what Koch thinks, it’s that this is just one more bit of evidence that the facade is cracking.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:05 pmI think our right-wing trolls are cute and funny. They’re like all wingers–white males of subnormal intelligence who think they’re brilliant.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:06 pm# 57: I am not a has been. I have a bull horn. I can roll up my sleaves and walk through piles of rubble, wondering why I allowed my emergency response control center to be located in buildings that had been attacked 8 years earlier. And don’t get me started about marrying my cousin.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:06 pmThere is something terribly wrong with people that would support a president (who is just a flawed human being after all) starting a war no matter the conditions under which he started that war… war of aggression… ok… war crimes…. ok…. trashing the meaning of “America” … ok… terribly wrong indeed.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:07 pmTrolls are like that Bush flunkie who stated she took an oath to George W. Bush.
Talk about a deluded clamhead.
-GSD
July 20th, 2007 at 3:07 pm“I’m bailing out.â€
What else do you bail out? A sinking ship, perhaps?
July 20th, 2007 at 3:10 pmMore rats abandoning the ship…
Of course, they do it as a political move, not out of the goodness of their hearts, concern for their fellow Americans, Iraqis and the sorry state of their country, or the mounting deficit in the US’ budget.
They’re all scrambling to repair the damage done to their public image by their previous support for the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:10 pmAnd speaking of chickenhawks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGit_tZDqs
Another great Max Blumenthal video in among the fervent young Republics.
Like I said, cowards one and all.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:13 pmhas-been former mayor of New York no longer supports Bush’s folly in Iraqnam? Its nice to see another Repugnican come around, but lets wait until Colin Powell or some Repugnican who really matters bails on Bush’s folly.
Comment by Ben Dover
Isn’t Ed Koch a Democrat in name? I ask only for information.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:13 pmJeremy is right. Please stop me, before I post again.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:15 pmI know that the stated mission in Iraq has nothing to do with the decision to remain there.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
Comment by Mr. President †— July 20, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Interesting… can you see a pattern here?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947
July 20th, 2007 at 3:16 pmAnd What is Koch left with? Nothing. His credibility is long gone. Laguardia got an airport. Even Dinkins got a tennis center. Koch will be lucky if he escapes NYC without a kick in the butt. Go and hang with Lieberman in his little troll-hole in Connecticut!
July 20th, 2007 at 3:19 pmEd Koch is indeed a Democrat, which is why those on the right trumpeted that original post far and wide when he wrote it.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:21 pmObama: Not Really Feeling the Genocide
Barack Obama has said that he doesn’t think preventing genocide is a good enough reason to stay in Iraq.
IRAQI PEOPLE: “Help us, Obama! If America leaves, we’ll all be slaughtered!”
OBAMA: “Does this look like the face of someone who cares?”
That’s cold. Maybe Obama is presidential. Then again, while he doesn’t see the big deal about genocide, the issues he does find important are probably like gay marriage and broadband internet for the poor.
At least he’s honest about it.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:22 pm# 67. Great video – makes me proud to be a progressive.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:26 pmIRAQI PEOPLE: “Help us, Obama! If America leaves, we’ll all be slaughtered!â€
Comment by Unvarnished Truth — July 20, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
This quote was said in unison.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmPeople often say this. As a former soldier in a conflict, I have to say, don’t pity the soldiers so much. They knew and know what they are getting into and many of them thrive on the feeling that they are taking action in the world.
Comment by captjashook — July 20, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
I wholeheartedly agree with this. I did two tours in Vietnam and when it was all over and done with, I was depressed. I wanted more battle. I couldn’t take the life of the civilian over here in the states. I ended up doing 4 years in a State Prison and actually enjoyed my time there. Adrenaline is a very powerful drug.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:27 pmI know many of you are impatient and want change now, but take a breath, take a step back and see the progress.
You’re either a lazy, dope-smoking, “look at the pretty colors” moron, or you’re a Rove aide working to distract Americans again from Bush’s plan to up the surge.
Every single time that the momentum starts to pick up and close down the Bush and Cheney show, some idiot like you says, “Look (over there), (distraction) some over-the-hill politician is on our side, we’ve won! Relax and smell the flowers!”
Progress? What progress? We’re still in Iraq, Afghanistan is about to fall to the Taleban again, every week we’re another $2 billion poorer and while Bush has something up his ass next month, Cheney will be the legitimate Commander-in-Chief.
Get off your lazy, fat ass and get back to work!
July 20th, 2007 at 3:32 pmBad things happen to good people in reality… and no one NO ONE is super man… then again neocons just dont like reality so they pretend it doesnt exist… Adults have to learn to be responsible for themselves… last I checked Iraq isnt a country of children… Iraqi MEN and WOMEN can choose to do with their lives what they will… just as America chose to kill each other to stop slavery and no one interviened it is up to Iraq to decide what it will become and BUSH has no say in the matter… he is just dragging our soldiers through the decision process the Iraqis are going through.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:38 pmI hope everyone is listening to John Dean right now on Randi Rhodes saying that Inherent Contempt is the only option left for the Democrats to deal with Harriet Miers and Josh Bolton ignoring their Congressional Subpoenas.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:40 pmMayor Krotch finally figures it out…..and he has Alzheimers
July 20th, 2007 at 3:40 pmCan’t wait to see Dennis Miller, Ron Silber and the other “9/11 changed me” idiots start to bail out.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:40 pmIts seems my post about INHERENT CONTEMPT was REMOVED (in the last 15 minutes). Yet the trolls posts remain like a flag of shame flapping in a stenchful wind that’s blowing through Think Progress.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:42 pmIt’s another piece of moronic Lefty propaganda!!!!!!
Comment by Mr. President ® — July 20, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
Right, good strategy… dismiss or disparage what might take some effort to understand. By the way, Alex Jones is way to the right.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
So as you evidently think your ignorance will protect you, stay with it. But one way or another, you’ll have to come out from behind that keyboard sometime… soon.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:46 pmEven though your post was removed Larry from C(again),I intend to call. Thanks.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:48 pmAt least he’s honest about it.
Comment by Unvarnished Truth — July 20, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
————————————————————————
Yep.
Just as Clinton let nearly 14 million Tutsis die in Rwanda…
And he left Bush a deficit of $649 billion…
And when Clinton began as president, there were 70 states in the union. Now there are only 50…
It shows how the “truthful†Trolls really feel about accurate facts!!!
Hypocrites.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:51 pmAhh, the good Mayor’s opinion is worth today as much as is it was previously, wouldn’t you say?
July 20th, 2007 at 3:55 pmI has come to our attention that many of you libs are making sense. This cannot continue and hensforth, many of those posts that make sense will be deleted. We will, however, continue to allow all of the innane posts of the right wing trolls. Thank You for your patience in this matter.
July 20th, 2007 at 3:55 pm#90: Dear Think Progress Staff:
Its not as though we don’t know that you’re turning our IP addresses over to Homeland Security. We’ve calculated that risk. But we feel our effort is worth it. The information we have to get out is of supreme importance to the continuance of the nation. We’re using you as much as you’re using us.
Sincerely – Larry from C
July 20th, 2007 at 4:03 pm# 90 Think Progress Staff:
thanks for that alert. I will adjust my message:
Clinton did it!
Libs are stupid. They don’t do anything, but they’re responsible for the war.
HeyyooooOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOooooo!!!!!!!!!
Is that better?
July 20th, 2007 at 4:06 pmThe BEST reaction to Mr. President is to IGNORE him.
July 20th, 2007 at 4:08 pmSimply do not reply to his statements and he will go away.
BREAKING NEWS (This time for REAL)
Paragraph from letter from John Conyers to Fred Fielding dated 7.19.07 (Counsel to the President)
…This letter is to formally notify you that I must insist on compliance with the subpoena, and that Mr. Bolten’s failure to promptly mitigate his noncompliance could result in contempt proceedings, including but not limited to proceedings under 2 U.S.C. §§ 192, 194 or under the inherent contempt authority of the House of Representatives.
Mr. Fielding has been given a deadline of Monday July 23 10am to comply. Read it for yourself:
July 20th, 2007 at 4:12 pmhttp://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=609
Keep it up Lefties. You’re only ruining your own site!!!
Comment by Mr. President ® — July 20, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
You sound like the classic abuser who claims his wife or girlfriend is ruining their relationship by objecting to being punched in the face everyday.
I pity any girlfriend you might have had in the past or future. I know you don’t have one now, because look at you here all the time.
July 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pmComment by Larry from C — July 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Thanks, Larry!
July 20th, 2007 at 4:28 pmI pity any girlfriend you might have had in the past or future. I know you don’t have one now, because look at you here all the time.
Comment by Zooey
Nor likely to get one, unless the plumber his mommy calls to fix the stopped-up toilet in the basement turns out to be a woman. And she’d have to be amazingly desperate.
July 20th, 2007 at 4:32 pmHow am I doin?
July 20th, 2007 at 4:41 pmWay behind the frikkin curve Mayah!
Ed who?
Who gives a shit what this afterthought thinks anyway.
July 20th, 2007 at 4:54 pmNext he’ll start wearing a dress in pub… oh, never mind, that RUDI!
July 20th, 2007 at 5:14 pmEd Koch: Vichy Democrat
http://www.newsfrombabylon.com/image/photo-or-photoshop/ed-koch-vichy-democrat
July 20th, 2007 at 5:24 pm#68. You’re correct. Ed Koch is a Democrat like Joe LIEberman, the Senator from Israel, is a Democrat. So I just call them Repugnicans from the get go.
July 20th, 2007 at 5:27 pmtest
July 20th, 2007 at 6:48 pmEd Koch: “As a result of the language and tactics of those opposed to our presence in Iraq, our enemies have been emboldened…”
But wouldn’t the president’s meticulous war-plan, have included the possibility of criticism, and an effective strategy to deal with it?
July 20th, 2007 at 8:56 pmF U Kochsucker.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:04 pmIt is impossible to “win” this war. The insurgents are the citizens, maybe we should call them patriots, of Iraq. Our brutal tactics have pissed off maybe 20 million people, or more if the 4 million homeless are fighting back.
The only way to win is to kill most of them–maybe that is what Lieberman, McCain and BushCheney mean by winning.
July 22nd, 2007 at 12:09 am