The fruits of escalation in Iraq.
By on Jul 21st, 2007 at 1:41 am
The fruits of escalation in Iraq.
“Attacks in Iraq last month reached their highest daily average since May 2003, showing a surge in violence as President George W. Bush completed a buildup of U.S. troops, Pentagon statistics show.” (Via Atrios.)
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Democracy on the march……
George W. Bush drips with the blood of hundreds of thousands.
July 21st, 2007 at 1:43 amThe Dems could always cut off the funds. Oh wait, they are gutless.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:03 amLet’s hope on Judgement Day, GWB will have to face all those he sent to their deaths and those who died just because they were in the wrong place, at the wrong time, in the wrong country.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:04 amAtrios is such a credible and unbiased source.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:04 amNance, what do the Dems get for standing by like dupes and allowing it to happen?
July 21st, 2007 at 2:05 amAtrios is such a credible and unbiased source.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:04 am
Atrios has never been wrong, EVER!
July 21st, 2007 at 2:05 amAtrios is a shitbag liberal.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:06 amOh, and the REAL link is to Reuters.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:06 amOops, my bad. I didn’t realize Atrios is citing a Reuters article. Sorry, everyone for the screwup.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:06 amReuters is an anti-American piece of shit.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:07 amI forget which General but he said the surge has brought on a seachange in Iraq.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:09 amReuters is an anti-American piece of shit.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:07 am
That’s more like it.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:09 amForgive my curses, but what was left my little dick, just fell off.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:10 amI forget which General but he said the surge has brought on a seachange in Iraq.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:09 am
That was General Mayhem.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:10 amBut don’t get me wrong, Atrios is still a shitbag liberal.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:10 am14: No, it was general state of denial.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:11 am“That was General Mayhem.”
That’s who we need in Iraq. Somebody who is not going to pussyfoot around.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:11 amBut don’t get me wrong, Atrios is still a shitbag liberal.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:10 am
I dare you to say that to my face!
July 21st, 2007 at 2:11 amAren’t I the clever 13 year old !!!!
July 21st, 2007 at 2:11 amThat was General Mayhem.
Comment by Egreggious — July 21, 2007 @ 2:10 am
It was a Major Mistake, for which he’ll certainly face Corporal Punishment.
(Sorry, us vets can’t resist those opportunities.)
July 21st, 2007 at 2:11 amNance, what do the Dems get for standing by like dupes and allowing it to happen?
Comment by Mr. Turner —
Sadly, until those few Republicans stop voting to continue this war, the Dems can’t put a timeline on troop withdrawal. See democracy does work in this case, even if we don’t always agree with it.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:11 amGen. Peter Pace:
“What I’m hearing right now is a sea change that’s taken place in many places here, that it’s no longer a matter of pushing al-Qaida out of Ramadi, for example but rather, now that they have been pushed out, helping the local police and local army have a chance to get their feet on the ground,” he said.
Security has improved in parts of Iraq in the past few months since the increase in U.S. troops in Baghdad and as some Sunni tribes and armed insurgents have turned against al-Qaida.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:13 amBut, of course, I hardly ever leave the Green Zone.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:15 amIt was a Major Mistake, for which he’ll certainly face Corporal Punishment.
(Sorry, us vets can’t resist those opportunities.)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
I sincerely hope he was allowed a Private Moment :)
July 21st, 2007 at 2:15 am“Sadly, until those few Republicans stop voting to continue this war, the Dems can’t put a timeline on troop withdrawal.”
The Dems have 51 votes in the senate. Don’t blame this on Republicans.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:15 amJust give us one more Friedman! Just one more!
July 21st, 2007 at 2:16 am“It was a Major Mistake, for which he’ll certainly face Corporal Punishment.”
You are delusional. A Democrat senate authorized war with Iraq.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:16 amGeorge W. Bush drips with the blood of hundreds of thousands…
Extremist Muslims!
Great job, Bush!
July 21st, 2007 at 2:17 amOf course, 51 votes is clearly enough to stop the g.o.p. from filibustering or a bush veto, you dolt. Go back to red state. Mr. P? Is that you?
July 21st, 2007 at 2:17 am“Of course, 51 votes is clearly enough to stop the g.o.p. from filibustering”
If the Dems were serious about ending the war they could exercise the nucular option.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:18 amThe idiocy of a “nuclear option” was a bad Grand Old Pervert idea.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:20 amYou are delusional. A Democrat senate authorized war with Iraq.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:16 am
Wow, you’ve just proven to me that you have absolutely no sense of humor. Probably have no sense, either, for that matter, so I won’t bother explaining it.
Comment by Nancy — July 21, 2007 @ 2:15 am
LOL. Good one, Nancy! D:
July 21st, 2007 at 2:21 am“The idiocy of a “nuclear option†was a bad Grand Old Pervert idea.”
As the war lingers on, the Dems refuse to end it.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:22 amThe Reuters article cites Pentagon statistics obtained from the Defence Department; you know, those other liberal, anti-American outfits.
Damned facts and their liberal bias…
July 21st, 2007 at 2:22 am“Wow, you’ve just proven to me that you have absolutely no sense of humor.”
Did I become a liberal?
July 21st, 2007 at 2:23 amMr. Turdner: Your pedandic, petulant posts are peppering a perfect progressive with a parsimonious panoply of palpable piss.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:24 amThe Pentagon is a shitbag liberal.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:24 am“The Reuters article cites Pentagon statistics obtained from the Defence Department”
Shaded to fit Reuters’ anti-American bias.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:24 am“peppering a perfect progressive with a parsimonious panoply of palpable piss.”
Drink up, pervert.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:25 amComment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:24 am
Mr. P, when it comes to being stupid, you are in a category of your own.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:25 amDid I become a liberal?
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:23 am
No, just an acerebralist.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:26 am“The Pentagon is a shitbag liberal.”
The CIA is filled with treasonous liberals like Valorie Plame.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:26 amOh stop, Turdner, you are really cracking us up. Now get off your cousin, take another oxycontin and go to bed.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:27 amGregor, you are just mad because Mr. P cleaned your clock. If he’s stupid, you are an imbecile.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:28 am“go to bed.”
Your wife is waiting for me.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:29 amMr P has never cleaned anyones clock. He just has a strong need for attention
July 21st, 2007 at 2:30 amYour sheep, is waiting you, turdner.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:30 am“He just has a strong need for attention”
Kind of like Mr. Turncoat.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:31 amTurner: Pot meet kettle.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:31 amTurnercoat has farm animals on the brain again. He’s reverting back to childhood.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:32 amGregor, you are just mad because Mr. P cleaned your clock.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:28 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
::gasping for air::
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
July 21st, 2007 at 2:32 amMr. Turnercoat uses farm animals for his own pleasure.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:33 amMr P has never cleaned anyones clock.
Comment by dbadass — July 21, 2007 @ 2:30 am
Nor has Gregor’s clock ever been cleaned.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:33 am“Nor has Gregor’s clock ever been cleaned.”
I’m just trying to think of why he’d be so mad at Mr. P.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:34 amMr. Turner/Mr. P, you really know how to be funny!!
That was a great joke…. “Mr P cleaned your clock”… I am still laughing… OMFG… that is just too funny… my sides hurt…
July 21st, 2007 at 2:35 amDid ya’ll miss me !!!! Love you, Mr. Turner. Call me.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:35 amThe fruits of the surge have been a seachange.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:36 amMaybe because Mr. P goes way out of his way to be annoying to obtain the attention he seeks? I really think Mr. P could get more respect for his opinions if he was less obnoxious in his mannerisms
July 21st, 2007 at 2:36 amI’m just trying to think of why he’d be so mad at Mr. P.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:34 am
Perhaps it’s because he slandered a dead Soldier.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:36 amGregor, Mr. P wiped the floor with your face.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:37 am57. Fruits? Surge? Call me, now, I’m about to burst.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:37 amThe fruits of the surge have been a seachange.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:36 am
Seachange is one of my favorite fruits.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:37 amEgreggious, I’m not familar with that.
Though, John Kerry did slander our soldiers in Vietnam, alive and dead.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:37 amYou tell him Mr. T. Kerry did it, so I can, too. Call me, baby.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:39 amMr. T/Mr. P, I suppose your next post will brag about cleaning everyone’s “clock” in this thread… LOL…
You are such a comedian… LOL!!
July 21st, 2007 at 2:39 am“Maybe because Mr. P goes way out of his way to be annoying to obtain the attention he seeks?”
You guys seem to mention him a lot.
Turnercoat is the one who seems to crave attention, though.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:39 amJohn Kerry has a big head.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:40 amStanding on the Moon
Lyrics: Robert Hunter
Music: Jerry Garcia
To Many Performance Dates To Mention…
Standing on the moon, I got no cobweb on my shoe
Standing on the moon, I’m feeling so alone and blue
I see the Gulf of Mexico as tiny as a tear
The coast of California must be somewhere over here
Over here
Standing on the moon, I see the battle rage below
Standing on the moon, I see the soldiers come and go
There’s a metal flag beside me someone planted long ago
Old glory standing stiffly, crimson, white and indigo
Old glory standing stiffly, crimson, white and indigo
Indigo
I see all of South East Asia; I can see El Salvador
I hear the cries of children and the other songs of war
It’s like a mighty melody that rings down from the sky
Standing here upon the moon I watch it all roll by
All roll by
All roll by
All roll by
Standing on the moon, I see a shadow on the sun
Standing on the moon, the stars go fading one by one
I hear a cry of victory, another of defeat
A scrap of age-old lullaby down some forgotten street
Standing on the moon, where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon, but I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco on a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven at this crescent in the sky
In the sky
Standing on the moon with nothing left to do
A lovely view of heaven but I’d rather be with you
A lovely view of heaven but I’d rather be with you
Be with you
I’d rather be with you
Perhaps our US Leaders will resolve their differences. If they don’t, We the People are destined to be dust and never to know what America was….
July 21st, 2007 at 2:40 amYeah, Kerry . . . Yeah, Clinton . . . Yeah. . . liberals . . . (yawn).
July 21st, 2007 at 2:40 amThough, John Kerry did slander our soldiers in Vietnam, alive and dead.
Comment by Mr. Turner
How did he slander them?
July 21st, 2007 at 2:40 amIt’s not that funny Samsa. Are you high?
July 21st, 2007 at 2:40 am“How did he (Kerry) slander them (our troops in Nam)?”
He called them the army of Gengis Kahn. He called them rapists. Murders. Pillagers. Kerry is a real sweetheart.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:42 amHe didn’t call them “Murders.”
July 21st, 2007 at 2:44 amThe June 2007 statistics confirmed a significant decline in the targeting of Iraqi civilians, with such attacks falling 18 percent to 763 from a 2007 high of 932 in May.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:45 amEgreggious, Bush defeated Kerry in the debates. That makes Kerry a moron.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:46 amComment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:40 am
It’s hilarious! And your post asking me if I am high is funny, too.
You fail to see the humor because you think you are insulting me. You are not.
I could not possibly be insulted by such a basic, transparent, infantile attempt at getting attention. If Mr. P had indeed “cleaned my clock” you think you would have provided a link where you/Mr. P did indeed “clean my clock”. You can’t because you didn’t.
But, hey, thanks for the belly laugh….
July 21st, 2007 at 2:46 am#72
July 21st, 2007 at 2:47 amNot sure I agree with using the name of Gengis Kahn and it’s certainly wrong to group all Viet Nam soldiers as rapist, murders and pillagers, even though some of them were. There were real horror during that time, I just hope this war doesn’t continue on the same path.
Egreggious, Bush defeated Kerry in the debates. That makes Kerry a moron.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:46 am
I guess I didn’t get to see the scorecard.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:47 amComment by Exley — July 21, 2007 @ 2:45 am
Do you have any data relative to the lethality of such attacks? 18 percent drop is insignificant if the “success” of such attacks has increased
July 21st, 2007 at 2:48 amFolks, debating on this lofty level wears me out.
Good
Night
July 21st, 2007 at 2:50 am“It’s hilarious! And your post asking me if I am high is funny, too.”
I’m glad you liked it.
You’d probably like Mr. P to fart in your face too, you pervert.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:52 amSOTM sweet
July 21st, 2007 at 2:53 amFolks, debating on this lofty level wears me out.
Good
Night
———
Your one line remarks were so sophisticated.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:53 amYou’d probably like Mr. P to fart in your face too, you pervert.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:52 am
juvenile at best
July 21st, 2007 at 2:54 am“Do you have any data relative to the lethality of such attacks?”
That is a good question, but the amount of terrorist attacks has dropped in Iraq.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:55 amOne last thing.
Poop.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:55 amComment by Exley — July 21, 2007 @ 2:45 am
As true as that might be, attacks on US forces are up.
And arguing over whether attacks and casualties are up or down, and whether that proves the surge is “working” or not is splitting hairs. Or missing the forest for the trees.
No matter how you try to spin it, Exley. Iraq is a disaster. Rice knows it. Gen Gates knows it. Republican Congresscritters know it. Even Pres Bush knows it -otherwise there would have been no surge in the first place.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:55 amComment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:52 am
Please, don’t go thinking everyone shares your fetishes and fantasies.
That was too much information. More than I cared to know about you.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:57 amThe June 2007 statistics confirmed a significant decline in the targeting of Iraqi civilians, with such attacks falling 18 percent to 763 from a 2007 high of 932 in May.
Comment by Exley — July 21, 2007 @ 2:45 am
You might have also included the paragraph after the one you quoted, unless you were trying to be disengenous.
The attacks on coalition forces have been increasing, in case you hadn’t read that far.
Mets won! And I’m going to bed.
Good night, Everybody. And feel free to take a break and enjoy my latest parody. Thank you for visiting.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:57 am“No matter how you try to spin it, Exley. Iraq is a disaster.”
Have you seen what Gen. Pace had to say?
Gen. Peter Pace:
“What I’m hearing right now is a sea change that’s taken place in many places here, that it’s no longer a matter of pushing al-Qaida out of Ramadi, for example but rather, now that they have been pushed out, helping the local police and local army have a chance to get their feet on the ground,†he said.
Security has improved in parts of Iraq in the past few months since the increase in U.S. troops in Baghdad and as some Sunni tribes and armed insurgents have turned against al-Qaida.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:57 am“June’s (attack) total was 2.5 percent below an October 2006 peak”
Good job boys.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:59 am“Please, don’t go thinking everyone shares your fetishes and fantasies.”
You mean like the gay fetish you have for Mr. P?
July 21st, 2007 at 3:00 am“June’s (attack) total was 2.5 percent below an October 2006 peakâ€
Good job boys.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:59 am
June has 30 days, October has 31. Do the math.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:01 amHave you seen what Gen. Pace had to say?
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:57 am
Indeed. The occupation of Iraq has been such an astounding success that, four years later, the insurgency is still relentlessly attacking American forces and caused thousands of casualties, with no end in sight.
Such a success that Pres Bush saw the need for a “surge” to try to put down the insurgency.
Yeah, such a success…
July 21st, 2007 at 3:03 am“June has 30 days, October has 31.”
30 days has September,
April, June and November
July 21st, 2007 at 3:03 amLed to war by the lies of the “decider”, it was lost before the first shock was awed…
July 21st, 2007 at 3:04 am“Such a success that Pres Bush saw the need for a “surge†to try to put down the insurgency.”
And according to Pace, the surge is working.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:04 amYou mean like the gay fetish you have for Mr. P?
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 3:00 am
You are the one who named bodily functions and Mr P’ in the same post. I did nothing of the sort. And now you come up with “gay fetish”?
You really are revealing too much about yourself. Please stop
July 21st, 2007 at 3:04 am“Led to war by the lies of the “deciderâ€,”
There’s no evidence Bush lied.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:05 amRose: I could use some help with how to set up the stats for a project I am working on. Are you available as an advisor? Excellent point!!!
July 21st, 2007 at 3:05 amSamsa you are obsessed with Mr. P. It certainly seems like a gay fetish.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:06 amdbadass, Rose could be Team Captain of the libtards.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:07 amGood. It’s working.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:11 amWhat is with all the gay nonsense around here? I suppose if it wasn’t an electronic format, you’d all be ball tapping and in the lockerroom before football practice while spewing the virtues of heterosexuality.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:11 amRose: I could use some help with how to set up the stats for a project I am working on. Are you available as an advisor? Excellent point!!!
Comment by dbadass — July 21, 2007 @ 3:05 am
I just got this information from the Atrios link above. I’m no math genius.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:15 amComment by dbadass — July 21, 2007 @ 3:11 am
Good point.
I confess I am guilty of feeding the troll. Couldn’t help it.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:16 amRose is cool!
July 21st, 2007 at 3:17 amTo Bob at “82″. Here’s the link to SOTM, from a late Jerry show (12/06/89). Scroll down to tune “17″. The wise old man says it all…
http://www.archive.org/details/gd89-12-06.sbd.miller.14917.sbeok.shnf
July 21st, 2007 at 3:29 amAnd according to Pace, the surge is working.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 3:04 am
I almost missed this one.
And according to Pres Bush, the occupation of Iraq was a success before the surge. You know, with the elections and all.
Then he told us there was the need for a “surge”, without ever admitting that something had failed and/or fully explaining why the “surge” was needed if Iraq had proven such a success until that point.
No WMD, no success after the elections, no success before the surge, and now we are expected to believe the “surge” is a success even with their track record of wrong predictions? Even as they tell us it’s too early to judge?
You must be very naive and must think we are too…
July 21st, 2007 at 3:35 amMr. Turner has made up his mind. No logic nor evidences will persuade him.
July 21st, 2007 at 3:43 amNo logic nor evidences will persuade him.
Comment by dbadass — July 21, 2007 @ 3:43 am
I am aware. I post comments for the benefit of other posters.
It was a quick reminder of the many times we were given a wrong prediction, told things were peachy when they weren’t, and the ever-shifting goal posts that have been moved so many times as we are told we must “stay the course” (I have a hard time keeping up with the changing reasons for invading Iraq. Was a new one declared this week? Or are we still working with the one from last month?)
Of course, given the short attention span most Bush loyalists seem to have, all this is ancient history because the Leader has, you know, “moved on”….
July 21st, 2007 at 3:51 amEver seen NeoCon Troll dung all in a pile? Take a look:
The Dems could always cut off the funds. Oh wait, they are gutless.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:03 am
Atrios is such a credible and unbiased source.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:04 am
Atrios is a shitbag liberal.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:06 am
Reuters is an anti-American piece of shit.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:07 am
But don’t get me wrong, Atrios is still a shitbag liberal.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:10 am
“peppering a perfect progressive with a parsimonious panoply of palpable piss.†Drink up, pervert.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:25 am
You’d probably like Mr. P to fart in your face too, you pervert.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:52 am
dbadass, Rose could be Team Captain of the libtards.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 3:07 am
Disgusting isn’t it? Call in the TP Sanitation P-troll!
July 21st, 2007 at 3:51 amComment by hterrya — July 21, 2007 @ 3:51 am
What intrigues me is the anger part. It seems a common theme. Sort of me against the world. Do you know hwat I mean?
July 21st, 2007 at 3:57 amComment by hterrya — July 21, 2007 @ 3:51 am
Yeah, but the crown jewel is this one:
Your one line remarks were so sophisticated.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:53 am
He was trying to be sarcastic. The irony was lost on him….
July 21st, 2007 at 4:02 am“What intrigues me is the anger part. It seems a common theme. Sort of me against the world. Do you know hwat I mean?”
Comment by dbadass — July 21, 2007 @ 3:57
Yes, I do, dbadass.
Reminds me of our current corrupt, crooked president and his president-in-charge-of-Vice, SiCKO DiCKO. They are enraged because the truth will always out!
And here is the TRUTH:
“Attacks in Iraq last month reached their highest daily average since May 2003, showing a surge in violence as President George W. Bush completed a buildup of U.S. troops, Pentagon statistics show.â€
Dear Lord, we’re back on topic! It’s a MIRACLE!
July 21st, 2007 at 4:05 amWhat is the worst part of what is the truth in Iraq, is the suffering that the Iraqi people and our own troops are suffering, yet nothing changes for the better. It only gets worse.
This is our $610 billion in tax dollars flushed down the toilet for a “global war on terror” that has, by-and-large, only increased the terror.
I lived through the Nixon debacle. This is worse!
July 21st, 2007 at 4:16 amWhat intrigues me is the anger part. It seems a common theme.
Comment by dbadass — July 21, 2007 @ 3:57 am
I’ve noticed that too. It’s because they have much invested, emotionally, in this president, his initiatives, and the GOP at large.
Confronting the reality that this administration has been a failure hurts them so much, they have to badger anyone who dares point that out. Or even criticise it mildly.
Why, this troll even said the Pentagon’s own statistics were “tainted” with a liberal slant, and accused Reuters of being anti-American. Those are the mental contortions the Bush followers have to do to remain loyal to their father figure.
July 21st, 2007 at 4:18 amWhat’s the least painful and most ethical solution? Imagine the conditions for these poor people. I have two little children and can’t begin to fathom what living in a war zone as a parent must be like… Tragic!
July 21st, 2007 at 4:21 amComment by hterrya — July 21, 2007 @ 4:16 am
There are about 4 million Iraqis displaced by the war. Four million. Four bloody million people who have left behind everything they had. Not to mention the “excess deaths”.
All of this because of a war that didn’t need to happen. And all of it during the US military occupation. But, oohhh, things are going to get ugly if the US withdraws -as if they were peachy right now.
What a shame. What a bloody shame.
July 21st, 2007 at 4:23 am#115, hterrya: No, no miracle. Just logic (regardless of the deviant, winding, off-course it takes to bring them back home).
Theresa
July 21st, 2007 at 4:25 amThere are about 4 million Iraqis displaced by the war. Four million. Four bloody million people who have left behind everything they had. Not to mention the “excess deathsâ€.
Excuse me for feeding the trolls but I dare one of those dicktards to make some kind of “who cares, they’re all “radical islamists” bullshit, then look themselves in the mirror and see a reflection
July 21st, 2007 at 4:28 amI dare one of those dicktards to make some kind of “who cares, they’re all “radical islamists†bullshit,
Comment by dbadass — July 21, 2007 @ 4:28 am
Oh, they do. And they will. Because they really don’t care.
They don’t think of Iraqis as people deserving respect, which is another reason why this whole “liberation of Iraq” is a pot of crock: They repeat that meme to feel good about themselves, not to express something that they actually aim for.
If they did care, they’d understand why more than a few Iraqis are willing to take a shot at the American troops, er, Coalition Forces.
July 21st, 2007 at 4:39 am“…they (the NeoCon trolls) have much invested, emotionally, in this president, his initiatives, and the GOP at large. Confronting the reality that this administration has been a failure hurts them so much…”
Comment by Gregor Samsa — July 21, 2007 @ 4:18 am
Truer words were never spoken, Gregor.
They couldn’t see that what came out of the White House was attacks on “liberals,” lies, distortions, dirty tricks, distractions, and phony “talking points.” What was missing was leadership, concrete ideas about how to improve this country, and actual positive results.
Instead, they (and we) got the Iraqi and Katrina disasters, non-competitive bids for war-profiteering buddies, Eron felonies, Abramoff scandals, and the outing of a CIA covert operative.
And now that the truth is coming out, that has GOT to hurt! And being humans, we sometimes react in anger, rather than working to resolve the situation that is causing the hurt.
I wouldn’t want to be in the trolls’ shoes, or in the shoes of the millions of Americans who voted for this bunch, only to find out how corrupt and crooked they really are. I am sure the folks who voted for Nixon felt the same way, too.
If I were in their shoes, I would probably be angry too.
July 21st, 2007 at 4:42 amWell, gang, I think I will hang it up.
It was a pleasure sharing ideas with you, dbadass, Gregor, and Theresa, once the troll dung got cleared away. {:-)
Later…
July 21st, 2007 at 4:52 am“Fruits”… hehhehheh.
July 21st, 2007 at 7:02 amIn the mean time, how come I have to go to foreign news sources to find out about the two German engineers just murdered by the Taleban because the German government refused to withdraw its troop contingency in Afghanistan?:
http://www.lavanguardia.es/lv24h/20070721/53377837228.html
July 21st, 2007 at 7:04 amOh, so it’s the German government’s fault, eh? There’s just no way that Taleban would be the one to blame?
July 21st, 2007 at 7:11 amThe Republicans finally got into power. Now we know what they can do.
July 21st, 2007 at 7:23 amnice to see what your site has become, a haven for trolls and operatives, while the truthtellers are banned (the first third of the thread is clearly one guy using multiple names – thereby ensuring nobody who actually cares about this country will bother reading anything that follows)…and you condone it.
you must be very proud.
enjoy the fascism, because you’re part of the problem.
July 21st, 2007 at 7:32 amG’morning, TP Friends: Check this article out. It’s clear that the Chimp is leaving Congress (and the american people) no alternative but impeachment – and impeachment right NOW.
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/8851
July 21st, 2007 at 7:50 amMorning, Ace! Did they scrub the information you gave us yesterday? Thankfully, I downloaded it and have it but when I returned late last night and looked for it, I couldn’t locate it. I thought that maybe I’d missed it and couldn’t recall the thread it was posted under.
It’s beginning to appear that TP is perhaps a fascist mouthpiece in disguise if that is the case. I do witness that the same troll is permitted continued posting under a potpourri of names while those names are being sent from the same IP address which TP can see. I’ve also heard lately that legitimate liberal bloggers are being cast from the threads. If this is the case, then no one with intelligence and self-respect will continue to post on these threads.
C& L, KOS, smirking chimp do not have this problem which leads me to believe in the veracity of your comment above.
Certainlyl, if the concept of free speech is being sanitized and censored, then the blog is a sham. Is this the case with TP? I am surely beginning to wonder.
July 21st, 2007 at 7:55 amAce: Please give us another way to continue to receive your very valuable information and data if this is the case.
July 21st, 2007 at 7:56 amDo you post it on other sites where we can continue to find it if TP censors and sanitizes their threads?
July 21st, 2007 at 7:57 amSadly, despite 3,600 American deaths, the GOP leadership and President Bush have failed to convince America to give a shit about Iraq.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:11 am#134 Iraq was but a small “tool” in their march to fascism and the “coup on this democracy”.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:13 amVeritas:
I think the bigger issue here is the nature of the internet and all of these supposedly liberal blogs. We can know who they are and what they represent by their actions.
Have you EVER seen TP delete any of the inane blather and ridiculous graphical outbursts on these threads? Why would they not delete the first few posts on this thread which are clearly one guy talking to himself.
There is a reason why the same exact pattern has existed at Huffington Post and Crooks and Liars and other sites. They are NOT WHAT THEY PURPORT TO BE.
The Plutocrats are the ones funding everything, the right, the left, the middle, all of it. They created the purportedly “Progressive” movement and fund this site. John Podesta and George Soros must accept responsibility for deleting all evidence of the real crimes of the Bush Administration, while encouraging the destruction of this forum:
“Podesta laid out his plan for what he likes to call a think tank on steroids. Emulating those conservative institutions, he said, a message-oriented war room will send out a daily briefing to refute the positions and arguments of the right. An aggressive media department will book liberal thinkers on cable TV. There will be an edgy Web site (thinkprogress.org) and a policy shop to formulate strong positions on foreign and domestic issues. In addition, Podesta explained how he would recruit hundreds of fellows and scholars — some in residence and others spread around the country — to research and promote new progressive policy ideas. American Progress is slated to operate with a $10 million budget next year, raised from big donors like the financier George Soros.”
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_American_Progress
Podesta and Bill Clinton were walking around downtown Aspen (pretty chummy) recently. How can it be that these people don’t want the truth revealed, if they are who they purport to be?
July 21st, 2007 at 8:20 amif the concept of free speech is being sanitized and censored, then the blog is a sham.
That’s something you people have never understood. There is NO FREE SPEECH on blogs. Freedom of speech means that the government is not supposed to censor political speech. It doesn’t mean that privately operated blogs should let everybody post anything they want. TP admins are perfectly within their rights to purge ace’s nonsense and, if he continues, to ban him permanently.
Hell, you wouldn’t like trolls to post here, so even you’re involved in suppressing speech you don’t like. And ace’s several pages long ramblings make threads much more difficult to read than a few one-liners from trolls.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:23 amNever try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:24 amAce: Thanks for this current information. Helps to explain the behavior. This is precisely the type of hypocrisy which led me to becoming a registered Independent. It all stinks. It’s all hypocrisy and lies and setting up the people to take unfair advantage of them. I figured it wouldn’t be long before both sides realized that they could corrupt this last frontier for the revelation of Truth.
Just like the hacking of the voting machines, I must also believe that the winner will be either the one who can hack the most machines the quickest or “the last one into the software to corrupt it”. You know they’ll both be jacking around with our votes in 08.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:26 amThanks, Boudoir bob – and you just outed yourself with that post. Now we KNOW where you sit each day and who you are.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:27 amAnd, for your information, you’re totally and unquestionably wrong in your assertion regarding free speech which is precisely the point of the hypocrisy on this site.
Troll blather obviously from the same troll is NOT being sanitized, yet those who attempt to provide truthful data which the overseers might not want to be outed, are being sanitized.
It’s not a case of countering the concept of “free speech” but rather the selective sanitization of the commentary.
We KNOW (idiot) that the site owner has the right to do what they want (thanks for outing youself by your rapid-fire response, BTW) – it’s the selective process involved which makes this site unquestionably biased and bogus.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:29 amHahaha. Yeah, right. Ok, if you know who I am, what are you going to do about it?
July 21st, 2007 at 8:32 amSpeaking for myself, it matters little whether this is a liberal site or a conservative site – I’m neither of them. If I’m going to invest my precious time to any extent then I want to be certain that the cite is exercising the same rules in either direction; otherwise, it’s credibility is shot and it becomes up to the discretion of the naturally, humanly- biased individual monitors.
Let’s have at least some semblance of equality here there – if you’re going to sanitize Ace’s posts because they are provocatively Truth, then why don’t you also sanitize and delete the obvious nonsense spouted by the trolls?
This isn’t child’s play here but your permission of the continued childish, immature commentary by uneducated trolls degrades your blog site. I’ve suggested that many of my friends check it out and post here but, frankly, they’ve found it on such an inferior level intellectually that they aren’t interested.
If you a blog site for immature adolescents, then keep it up. If, instead, you’d like a blog site where real issues can be debated, then you’d better begin the practice of equality – if you allow troll blather, then please don’t sanitize threads of Truth (our Truth and perhaps the “only truth” – even though, for whatever reason, it may not be a Truth which you, personally, do not want outed).
July 21st, 2007 at 8:36 amBoudoir – to even engage in discussion with you would be to degrade myself and I have a much higher degree of self-respect than you obviously do. We function in two different worlds, that’s clear.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:37 amWhat… the… hell…
LOL! I’m not one of the admins.
You’ve lost it. Totally.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:37 amNever said you were. Your inaccurate inference only suggest your inferior level of intellectual acuity.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:39 amLet’s have at least some semblance of equality here there – if you’re going to sanitize Ace’s posts because they are provocatively Truth, then why don’t you also sanitize and delete the obvious nonsense spouted by the trolls?
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This isn’t child’s play here but your permission of the continued childish, immature commentary by uneducated trolls degrades your blog site.
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If you a blog site for immature adolescents, then keep it up. If, instead, you’d like a blog site where real issues can be debated, then you’d better begin the practice of equality – if you allow troll blather, then please don’t sanitize threads of Truth
You’re claiming there that I’m one of the admins. Don’t try to backpedal now. You freaked out and really went off the cliff there.
As far as your claims of intelligence, one only has to look at what kind of delusions you and ace have bought into to see that your claims of superior intelligence are ridiculous.
July 21st, 2007 at 8:44 amPodesta laid out his plan for what he likes to call a think tank on steroids.
As our resident Sybil-style troll demonstrates, abusing steroids can cause serious brain damage.
‘The question I’m asked most often is, When are we getting our eight words?’ Podesta said. Conservatives, he went on, ‘have their eight words in a bumper sticker: Less government. Lower taxes. Less welfare. And so on.
Besides that being nine words, it’s obvious to us all by now that Mr. Podesta’s eight words will NOT be, “Tell us what really happened on September Eleventh.”
Thanks for all your posts, ace. It’s the efforts, however many times they get censored, of people like you who will one day expose this government’s frauds. When both Jane and I came to realize that the “official” account contained so many holes and self-contradictions that it had to be a cover-up for what really happened, it was painful. But we’ve gotten through the hurt now and we’re well into anger. It’s made me think that perhaps a slight modification to the constitution is necessary. Instead of:
Art 3, Sec 3, Clause 2: The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
it should read:
Clause 2: The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood (except for wealthy families who abuse power), or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
When the truth is finally revealed, even if it’s decades from now, every member of the Bush family who had any knowledge of their family’s involvement and did not come forward should be thrown in jail for life without parole.
Keep up the great work, ace. Speak truth to power. I hope you got to read this post before it gets deleted (unlike the baseless personal attacks we all endured last night.)
July 21st, 2007 at 8:44 amMessage received.
Thanks Wayne.
July 21st, 2007 at 9:13 am“…You’re claiming there that I’m one of the admins…..”
July 21st, 2007 at 9:20 amComment by Boudin Bob
I read nothing of the sort you have twisted the post into.
Methinks you think to much of yourself.
Stick to the molecular coatings, but try not to spread yourself to thin, your veneer of intelligence is rather transparent.
Good Morning Ace, Veritas, Wayne and any regular poster’s around this morning…..Sad to see how degraded the TP site has become….I appreciate the fine work of the serious poster’s, your info and link’s have been a true asset to me. It has been a joy to be able to join in the fun, when allowed to hijack or read the result’s of internet written play.. Absence of troll’s ofcourse..Noticed yesterday when skipping through, lot’s of good post’s were removed and as usual, personal attacks by troll’s were left on sight…The good one’s are decreasing, noticed Katie left, Trip was banned, Ace had post’s scrubbed……And according to my computer tech who is also a bleeding heart libral I should not subject my computer to the site..His comment upon picking up my puter a week ago was the site is infected and a major cause of my puter problem’s…Something I have known for over a year since I have no problem’s with any other site’s…Oh Well! He and I both know I will check in from time to time in hope’s of getting more good info…
I send you all Blessings today, sorry to be off topic..Now I must take a shower, clean the puter and do a personal healing ritual to remove the evil, black hearted infection the a few troll’s continue to leave and TP allow’s to continue…Peace and many Blessings
July 21st, 2007 at 9:55 amThanks, Sharon. After the crap that got said about me last night by them, I could use a tree hugged in my name. Thanks, and Peace to you, my friend.
July 21st, 2007 at 10:06 amEnjoy your day, Sharon! :-)
July 21st, 2007 at 10:08 amBack at ya Wayne and Jane, Sorry I missed it…Was only here for a few minutes yesterday…Would of weighed in as support had I known…Will do some major hugging of Big Cedar for you and all, will probably do some major smudging of the resort property today as well..Sweet grass and sage work miracles…Candles are lit, Verbal Blessings are said and I will embrace all the lavender in my garden for you all as well…..Peace.
July 21st, 2007 at 10:25 amThanks, Sharon, I’m going to go out and kill me some weeds.
July 21st, 2007 at 10:39 amThe increased violence in the area is just want the Bush Crime Cabal want. It’s been the neoCON’s biggest fantasy come true that the violence is on the upswing : that’s what the “Mission Accomplished” is all about. Their mission was to turn Iraq and more an d more areas in the Middle East into Hell on Earth. The more violence the better. The more confusion the better. I think I can say that we are all waiting for Evil Cheney’s next chess move : Iran?. The real meaning of the Surge is the surge in violence. God help everone overthere, esp. our troops, when Darth unleashes his wrath on Iran : More Hell break loose. And again, this is a neoCON’s wet dream come true.
July 21st, 2007 at 11:01 ambetter read, copy before Think Progress (a.k.a The Chinese Internet”) erases this. Is TP part of The Ministry of Truth?
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=2007072074434538
July 21st, 2007 at 11:07 amWow, this is the first time I have visited this site. Is it always like this? Are all your discussions dominated by trolls and people who respond to the trolls?
July 21st, 2007 at 11:38 amThe Dems could always cut off the funds. Oh wait, they are gutless.
Comment by Mr. Turner — July 21, 2007 @ 2:03 am
And the thugs and rubbernecked crooks in the rethuglican party could stop being obstructionists, as well, Spanky…there is a minority fascist party holding up legislation…but I am sure they didn’t tell you that on FAUXNOIZ. Take a hike, troll.
July 21st, 2007 at 1:58 pm“Are all your discussions dominated by trolls and people who respond to the trolls?”
Comment by bilbobaggins
At the risk of being labeled a troll-responder, I can only speak for myself; but one either can exist in an echo-chamber of like-minded thought, or stand up and defend one’s beliefs in the give-and-take of debate (spiced with a little invective for those who do nothing but parrot stale talking points). I’ve been in the echo-chamber of Smirking Chimp and other like-minded sites, and while it is refreshing at first to be able to converse with those who I agree with, after a while it just seems an exercise in synchopancy. Give me a challenge, such as debunking an assertion , and I’m much more fulfilled intellectually.
July 21st, 2007 at 2:21 pm