CNN’s post-debate analysis tackles the tough questions.
By on Jul 23rd, 2007 at 10:38 pm
CNN’s post-debate analysis tackles the tough questions.
After tonight’s YouTube debate, CNN ran a segment critiquing the candidates on their body language and dress. Wolf Blitzer introduced it, stating, “Candidates also sighed, they rolled their eyes, they looked at their watches during the debate.” CNN’s Carol Costello commented, “Look at how the candidates were dressed. The men wore dark suits, but Hillary Clinton wore a brightly-colored jacket.” Watch it:
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Was Paris Hilton there as well? How did she smell?
I bet they found a missing white girl in the audience!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:42 pmThe founders believed a free press would be instrumental in the success of a strong democracy by making voters informed citizens. Who know it would end up become an agent in the death of a strong democracy, buy actually making voters LESS informed citizens.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:45 pmBut how heavily did they sigh? That would make all the difference to me.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:47 pmThe little tart showed off her cleavage, too.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:48 pmCNN
The Clinton News Network
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:49 pm"But how heavily did they sigh? That would make all the difference to me."
Gore did enough sighing in 2000 for all of these wingnuts.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:49 pm"The little tart showed off her cleavage, too."
That was the only good part.
CNN is for commies.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:51 pm"actually making voters LESS informed citizens."
CNN tends to do that to the Dems who watch it.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:51 pmI am glad I did not watch the YouTube debate, because CNN has proven they wanted the debate to be stupid and silly. This was an attempt to discredit bloggers on sites like TP, since YouTubers are on the fringe.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:52 pmAhh.. Yes, but the question is, was Senator Obama black enough? Was John Edwards wussy enough?
Did Senator Clinton have big enough balls?
I'm 98.8% correct all the time!
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:54 pmShe also said that the "anti-war left" won the debate. Seems unfair to leave out the anti-war "center." This is why I don't watch CNN. I caught that just flipping past the channel. I would have gone insane watching the whole thing.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:55 pmGore did enough sighing in 2000 for all of these wingnuts.
That's certainly what the wingnuts said. And it shows that they really care deeply about the issues, doesn't it?
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:56 pmNews Flash...middle age democratic men were seen wearing dark suits in South Carolina before Labor Day...we'll dig deeper into this pressing story along with, should a women wear black pants while standing next to two men wearing dark suits in South Carolina before Labor Day,right after our own exclusive analsys on what color sheets would Elizabeth Edwards would put on the bed in the Lincoln Bedroom and why Mrs Obama might chose a different color...
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:56 pmMaybe CNN will broach the subject of pube grooming next time around.
What a pack of vapid asschappers. Ted Turner should by that Fox knock-off back and fire everyone.
Then start from the ground up with chimpanzees with typewriters. They'll be more accurate and far more entertaining.
-GSD
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:56 pmGlad I skipped it...I was out salting slug's and planting tree's...Much more productive....Blessings
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:57 pm#8: CNN tends to do that [make them less informed] to the Dems who watch it.
But the right-wingers who watch CNN and Fox News become more informed? Maybe you can explain how that works.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:58 pmYou guys are all voting for Nader in 08, right?
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:58 pmI had to turn off the analysis, as they just couldn't stop trashing Edwards, as usual-Edwards really has corporate panties in a twist-It just makes me want to support him even more-I learned tonight that Obama supports nuclear power-No sane person with children could take this stance-I feel he really knows very little about the subject-obviously John Edwards does, as he can't support it-Walter Russell's book "Atomic Suicide" would convince anyone of how dangerous nuclear power is-maybe I should send a copy to Mr. Obama so he can get up to speed on the topic...
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:58 pm"But the right-wingers who watch CNN"
Right wingers don't watch CNN, only libs like you do.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:59 pmDid any of them have shoulders you could land a jet on ? Biden-did he smell good ? Who had the most expensive hair cut ? Could we see the greatness in any of them? How many humans died in Iraq today ?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:00 pmThe debate itself was actually pretty good. Good questions, for the most part... as good or better than the puditocracy.
The post debate rush to fill the remaining 24 hrs of air time, however, is a different story. Once the beautiful talking heads (and Wolf) start offering opinion and insight, things go dark real fast.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:01 pm#17: Right wingers don’t watch CNN, only libs like you do.
I'm not sure where you get this idea, but the ratings certainly don't bear this out. Are you suggesting that right-wing Fox News viewers are more informed than "liberal" CNN viewers? The facts show just the opposite.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:01 pmBut I'm still the one you want to have a beer with, aren't I?
Because I'd really love another beer.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:03 pmThe trolls sure jumped on this thread. Must be all the fear chased them here.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:07 pm....and the point of the segment? to further cement the top 3 and to lock out the rest, ex: Gravel is "like your angy uncle", implying that he's crazy.They'd do the same to Paul.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:08 pm"Are you suggesting that right-wing Fox News viewers are more informed than “liberal†CNN viewers?"
No, I'm not. I'm saying that only liberals watch CNN.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:08 pmLMAO. this is the best comment section i've ever seen here.
I loved how Kucinich slammed the Democrats.
Oh, has anyone ever seen Dens trophy wife?
BTW, I've missed you all.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:09 pmXOXO
But I’m still the one you want to have a beer with, aren’t I?
Because I’d really love another beer.
Comment by Chimp
Chimpy, you're acting like you switched to tequila. Better slow down there bucky.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:09 pm"The debate itself was actually pretty good."
Sen. Gravel won it, hands down.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:09 pmBTW, I’ve missed you all.
XOXO
Comment by ballbuster
Well ball sucker, we wish we could say the same.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:11 pmWhere is the Cindy Sheehan Topic?
She was arrested today.
...Conyers told her there weren't enough votes for impeachment to move forward on the issue.
So, are the dems fighting back against the peaceniks? Can we put this whole impeachment nonesense to bed now?
Your thoughts? Off topic? New Thread?
XOXO
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:11 pmOh, has anyone ever seen Dens trophy wife?
BTW, I’ve missed you all.
XOXO
Comment by ballbuster — July 23, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
yes and she is much nicer than that letch Fred Thompson's trophy wife..
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:11 pmMaybe CNN could talk about the type of cologne the candidates were wearing or whether the men had boxers or briefs...
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:11 pmWhen are we going to get control of our airways and boot out these privatized departments of propaganda.
Why don't we have Amy Goodman of Democracy Now on instead of that Jackass wolf blitzer.
Sen. Gravel won it, hands down MY PANTS.
Comment by The Eck
There icky, I fixed it for you.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:12 pmI see The Hack is nw getting paid by the post, instead of his previous deal, where he got $5.50 an hours and could keep all the change fom when he went to pick up lunch for everyone in the office.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:12 pmballsucker? Would that make me weird? abnormal? Different? Do I need special legislation?
LOL.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:12 pmHow unfortunate that Joseph Lieberman is not the Democratic nominee for 2008 as he deserves.
Then Americans would have real choices for President, not a sensible man vs a turd!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:13 pm"But I’m still the one you want to have a beer with, aren’t I?"
I'd love to see Hillary drunk. That's probably what she needs to get a little personality.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:13 pm#30 Tony W.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:14 pmHow do you know, and are you taller than her?
"Fred Thompson’s trophy wife.."
Thompson's wife is very intelligent, and is going to be a wonderful First Lady.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:15 pmThen Americans would have real choices for President, not a sensible man vs a turd!
Comment by m12 — July 23, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
Let me guess -- your turd smells divine.....
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:15 pmThat Joe is a good kisser!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:15 pmballsucker? Would that make me weird? abnormal? Different? Do I need special legislation?
LOL.
Comment by ballbuster
I'm pretty sure you've been riding that short bus mandated by special legislation for years.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:16 pmWhere is the Cindy Sheehan Topic?
She was arrested today
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Figures. That lady has gone crazy since her husband divorced her.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:16 pm"How unfortunate that Joseph Lieberman is not the Democratic nominee for 2008 as he deserves."
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:17 pmLIE BERMAN FOR ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER !!
"Let me guess — your turd smells divine….."
The Dems were dishing it out pretty strong tonight. Barack Hussien Obama put out a steaming hot pile.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:17 pmParis & Lohan are gushed over for being drunk & disorderly, but the Dems are damned for being dull dressers. Go figure!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmSheehan arrested while calling for Bush's impeachment
Associated Press - July 23, 2007 6:35 PM ET
WASHINGTON (AP) - Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan has been arrested today at the US Capitol for disorderly conduct.
Sheehan was taken into custody shortly after saying she'd run against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi over the California Democrat's refusal to try to impeach GOP President Bush.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:19 pmJoe or Fred?
I'd have to toss a coin.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:19 pmThe Eck loves the BallLuster 8==D Smooch.
Eck thinks the Christian News Network is communist? WTF?
BallLuster 8=D thinks the Iraqi Freedom Operation is a war.
Remember Democracy and the mean old oppressive dick-tator? Huh?
Huh? We must free those oppressed terrusts, they said!
The Right wing nutjobs are getting delirious!!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:19 pmThe Dems were dishing it out pretty strong tonight. Barack Hussien Obama put out a steaming hot pile.
Comment by The Eck
Well then you mush really love Obama. After all you've been eating up alll the shit Bush and Cheney have been dishing out and acting like you love it.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 pmFred Thompson’s trophy wife..â€
Thompson’s wife is very intelligent, and is going to be a wonderful First Lady.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
she's a trophy wife, as Carville used to say, you'd be surprised what you can pick up if you troll a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park..
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 pm"Paris & Lohan are gushed over for being drunk & disorderly"
Don't worry. So are the Democrats.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:21 pmAmerican Cable News: What dumb people need to know, 24 hours a day.
it's really become just plain embarrassing to be American...not that you aussies have a hell of a lot to brag up....
Let's change our name to "The Affiliated Suburbs of Homervania"
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:22 pmIt sounds like you have a crush on Obama, Shane.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:22 pm#24: I’m saying that only liberals watch CNN.
I'm not sure where you get this idea, but it's false. I'm sure you also have the insane idea that CNN is a liberal (or, I'm sure you prefer, "communist") network. In your world, anyone to the left of Bill Kristol is a communist.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmI hope that a new post doesn't show. It seems they are like a flame to a moth for Eck. He bounces between news stories faster than Senator Vitter does between whores.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmThompson’s wife is very intelligent, and is going to be a wonderful First Lady.
Comment by The Eck
Hey Icky, you must be washing down all that shit you've been eating up with too much koolaid. Better slow down a little.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmSheehan arrested while calling for Bush’s impeachment
Associated Press - July 23, 2007 6:35 PM ET
WASHINGTON (AP) - Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan has been arrested today at the US Capitol for disorderly conduct.
GOOD FOR HER!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmMitt Adolph Romney will be a great dictator for America! But then again Benito Giuliani would make the trains run on time! But Augusto Hunter would also fill up the stadiums with traitors so well...I am warming to Fred Pol-Pot Thompson too.....Almost as much as John Stalin McCain....So many authoritarians, so little time.
-Winger and a Dreamer
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pm"you’d be surprised what you can pick up if you troll a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park.."
How do you think Clinton picked up Jennifer Flowers?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmfred thompson's trophy wife is sam waterston's youngest daughter, and she's really bummed that those boner pills were ever invented
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:24 pm"After tonight’s YouTube debate, CNN ran a segment critiquing the candidates on their body language and dress."
I knew that would happen, that's why I immediately switched the channel.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:24 pmThe Dems were dishing it out pretty strong tonight. Barack Hussien Obama put out a steaming hot pile.
Comment by The Eck
Aww come on, you know you reverse threaded rightwing wackos want to free them oppresed Obama folks!! Why change your loony tune now!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:24 pmHow important is it to voters what these candidates were wearing?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:24 pmFor CNN, voting is treated like a 'fashion show'.
It must have been a great debate since all CNN could talk about was the clothes that the candidates were wearing. Oh yes and Hillary's colorful jacket. Now I thought these people were running for President. Or does CNN only talk about the GOP candidates. Fred Thompson will be out of the race soon. Now the GOP will have to pick Mitt has he's buying his way to be the GOP candidate. McCain couldn't get enough money from his supporters in Iraq.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:24 pm"CNN is a liberal (or, I’m sure you prefer, “communistâ€) network."
I agree totally, Jim.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 pmIt sounds like you have a crush on Obama, Shane.
Comment by The Eck
Funny coming from the guy gushing all over Fred Thompson.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 pmHow do you think Clinton picked up Jennifer Flowers?
Comment by The Eck
Bwahaha. At least she wasn't Jeff Gannon!!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 pmFigures. That lady has gone crazy since her husband divorced her.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
Is that what made YOU go crazy?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 pmDid your *gag* spouse divorce you?
Eck #59. Sounds like your personal story... Unless you was hanging with Bill when it happened? Just shows a bit about you IMO.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 pm"fred thompson’s trophy wife is sam waterston’s youngest daughter"
Is that true? Do you have a source for that?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 pmI agree totally, Jim.
Comment by The Eck
CNN stands for Christian News Network, nutnibblers!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmWow ... 68 posts and not one of our usual trolls has been able to provide a single substantive comment on the debate.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmAnother story must have popped.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 pm#58- GSD,
'FUNNY, FUNNY, FUNNY....
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:30 pmJohn Edwards actually has a YouTube video (that was featured in tonight's debate) that addresses the superficiality of the media:
http://www.americablog.com/2007/07/edwards-video-is-brilliant.html
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:30 pmIs that true? Do you have a source for that?
Comment by The Eck
Oh that's really cute -- you asking for a source. Heh.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:31 pm70 - yeah - i read it on drudge, or was it little yellow nerfballs, well, i dont' remember exactly, but it was definitely nothing improper, and it was definitely a credible intelligence source.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:33 pm#72: Wow … 68 posts and not one of our usual trolls has been able to provide a single substantive comment on the debate.
That's not true. The Eck made an incisive observation that CNN is actually run by, and for, communists. I mean, who knew? And the impressive thing is that his point is so obviously true that he doesn't even need to support it.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 pm"John Edwards"? "Superficiality"?
How ironic.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 pmJohn Edwards actually has a YouTube video (that was featured in tonight’s debate) that addresses the superficiality of the media:
http://www.americablog.com/ 2007/ 07/ edwards-video-is-brilliant.html
Comment by Rose — July 23, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
It actually was the best of them all...to bad CNN did a lousy job showing it...
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:35 pm"Do I need special legislation?"
Comment by ballbuster — July 23, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
No, you need a brain transplant (from a non-NeoCon, so you'll actually have one.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:35 pm"it was definitely a credible intelligence source."
Coming from you, it probably was, Tom. Not.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 pmTony W., John Edwards ran as a moderate in '04. He is running as a left winger now. Flip flop much?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:38 pm“it was definitely a credible intelligence source.â€
Same place I got that WMD info from!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:38 pmhterrya is all boob and no brain.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:39 pm"Same place I got that WMD info from!"
Hillary said she checked with sources from the Clinton administation before her vote for the Iraq war.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 pmThat’s not true. The Eck made an incisive observation that CNN is actually run by, and for, communists. I mean, who knew? And the impressive thing is that his point is so obviously true that he doesn’t even need to support it.
Comment by Jim — July 23, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
GREAT defense of Eck, Jim! {:-)
All Comments from Eck = Troll Dung
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 pmhterrya is all boob and no brain.
Comment by The Eck
Awwww, now hterrya is gonna cry all night. :(
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmFlip-flopping is bad, very, very, bad.
Stay the course, I say. Always stay the course!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmTime-Warner is full of commies BVWAaaahahahahahahaaa
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 pmCorporate News Network- 20 degrees right of center
"Awwww, now hterrya is gonna cry all night. :("
I hope not. It was said playfully.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmI find it Hillaryous that Eck will find fault with Democrats that were tricked by the administration and not fault Republicans that still drink from the fountain.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmI hope not. It was said playfully.
Comment by The Eck
Sarcasm, dingleberry.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmand not fault Republicans that still drink from the fountain.
Comment by mediadog — July 23, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
Can somebody get the word out to Karl that we're starting to run low on Kool-Aid?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pm#88: GREAT defense of Eck, Jim! {:-)
Somebody had to do it. He as being swarmed by the vast liberal conspiracy.w
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmI try to keep all my posts under 5 words for maximum impact.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmAwwww, now hterrya is gonna cry all night. :(
Comment by Zooey — July 23, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
Boohoohoo! sniff.....
You right, Zooey! It really hurts my feelings when ignorant NeoCon Trolls say mean things about me! {:-)
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmAlthough I don't think Edwards will win the nomination, I do think he's the one canidate that scares the living crap out of the repugs..They feel pretty good and bringing out racial and gender stereotypes against Clinton and Obama, but Edwards scares them...I know in Georgia...the reddest of red states, Edwards actually polls the best among moderate repugs...he could easily win 15-20 percent of repugs in Georgia...Especially agaisnt any of the GOP frontrunners,,,LOOK at Mitts numbers outside of the northeast...in the low single digits...Rudy can't win the bible thumpers and Fred Thompson WIFE is a BIG negative in the south...
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pm"Sarcasm, dingleberry."
Don't get fresh with me ;)
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmI try to keep all
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmBoohoohoo! sniff…..
You right, Zooey! It really hurts my feelings when ignorant NeoCon Trolls say mean things about me! {:-)
Comment by hterrya
These trolls have the wit of a bowl of mashed potatoes. :D
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 pm"It really hurts my feelings when ignorant NeoCon Trolls say mean things about me!"
I may be many things, but I'm no neocon.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:48 pmThese Republican candidates keep doing bad enough, maybe Dick will run after all.
Dick, run, that's funny.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pm[O]nly liberals watch CNN.
For those interested, check out this poll. It shows that 27% of those who watch CNN are liberal, while 73% are moderate or conservative.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pm"I do think he’s the one canidate that scares the living crap out of the repugs."
You're probably right. I wouldn't want to face Edwards in a general. I want Hillary or Obama.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmThese trolls have the wit of a bowl of mashed potatoes. :D
Comment by Zooey — July 23, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
Zooey, as you have probably gathered from my previous posts, I think you give them waaaaaaay too much credit!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 pm"Thompson WIFE is a BIG negative in the south…"
What a stupid comment.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 pmFor those interested, check out this poll. It shows that 27% of those who watch CNN are liberal, while 73% are moderate or conservative.
Comment by Jim — July 23, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
But that means they have at least 100 viewers!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:51 pmSarcasm, dingleberry.
Comment by Zooey
They think sarcasm is a medical condition, Zoo. Lets keep it simple for them.
Muslims = bad.
We = good.
Now, they can go out and play.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:51 pmIt tits and a tight ass in the South are a negative then you should divorce your sister.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 pm"These trolls have the wit of a bowl of mashed potatoes. :D"
I'm creamy and fluffy.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 pm"It tits and a tight ass in the South are a negative then you should divorce your sister."
I don't have a sister.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:53 pm"The Eck", isn't that a fish disease that effects the SLIME layer?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:53 pmI’m creamy and fluffy.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
Karl, is that you?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:53 pmZooey, as you have probably gathered from my previous posts, I think you give them waaaaaaay too much credit!
Comment by hterrya
Me and my generous heart. :-D
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:53 pm#108: But that means they have at least 100 viewers!
Do you know what percentages are?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:54 pm"“The Eckâ€, isn’t that a fish disease that effects the SLIME layer?"
No.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:54 pmYou’re probably right. I wouldn’t want to face Edwards in a general. I want Hillary or Obama.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
Call out the Guinness Book of World Records folks!
I think Eck made an honest comment, without any NeoCon slant!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:54 pmMuslims = bad.
We = good.
Now, they can go out and play.
Comment by Juan C
Thanks, Juan. What was I thinking!? :)
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:55 pmEck it don't matter if you have a sister or not... you just as well divorce your hand. I think some have heard you call it sister.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:55 pmJim, noboby is going to admit they are a liberal to a pollster. It's a dirty word.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:55 pmLady Z, the troll population is proof posative Rove only put's out five dollar bill's on street corner's....His skill's match bull shit's on that....Maybe if they gave gannon some twenties he could round up some new fresh troll's for us...That would make a good patition signing to send off......Blessings
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:55 pmDo you know what percentages are?
Comment by Jim
Well, he is "Chimp."
Just sayin'
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 pm““The Eckâ€, isn’t that a fish disease that effects the SLIME layer?â€
No.
Comment by The Eck
No means Yes in troll land.
Yes, Eck or Ick is a disgusting disease that affects tropical fish. Now you know how credible Ick/Eck is.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 pmCall out the Guinness Book of World Records folks!
I think Eck made an honest comment, without any NeoCon slant!!
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I'm not a neocon.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 pmI'm still thinking about that "percentages", Jim.
Don't want you to think I forgot you.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 pmDon't shake hands with Eck then
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 pmEck it don’t matter if you have a sister or not… you just as well divorce your hand. I think some have heard you call it sister.
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Don't make this personal.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 pmLady Z, the troll population is proof posative Rove only put’s out five dollar bill’s on street corner’s….His skill’s match bull shit’s on that….Maybe if they gave gannon some twenties he could round up some new fresh troll’s for us…That would make a good patition signing to send off……Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Hello, Great Lady! Just burning off a little steam. I think this moronic topic counts as an open thread. :D
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 pmThanks, Juan. What was I thinking!? :)
Comment by Zooey
That you are one of the greatest persons in this planet? :D
How are you, super Z?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 pmYes, Eck or Ick is a disgusting disease that affects tropical fish. Now you know how credible Ick/Eck is.
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That's not very nice.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 pmYes, Eck or Ick is a disgusting disease that affects tropical fish. Now you know how credible Ick/Eck is.
Comment by gummitch
Ick!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 pmkk I won't make it personal.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 pmNo, I’m not. I’m saying that only liberals watch CNN.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 11:08 pm
you pull more out of your ass than they did to bush. in your case, it's just crap, not brains.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 pmLets get to reality if you don't want personal
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 pmNeo-con is a dirty word.
Jejf Gannon used to whisper it to me.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 pmThat you are one of the greatest persons in this planet? :D
How are you, super Z?
Comment by Juan C
Now who's gonna get a hug? :)
I'm doing well. How are you?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 pm"Don’t shake hands with Eck then"
I would shake your hand.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:59 pmThat’s not very nice.
Comment by The Eck
Nor are trolls nice. But I wonder if this is really The Ick or if clever little PiPPy ShortDrawers is playing little troll games. Either way, no one cares if it's nice or not.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:00 am““The Eckâ€, isn’t that a fish disease that effects the SLIME layer?â€
No.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
Call out the Guinness Book of World Records, AGAIN, folks!
Eck gave another honest answer!
Eck (µk), Johann. 1486-1543.
(1) German Roman Catholic theologian who opposed the reforms of Martin Luther and procured from Rome the papal bull that declared Luther a heretic (1520).
(2) Still another ancient NeoCon, hanging desperately onto the status quo!
Sorry, I have been watching too much David Brooks. I made (2) up. {:-)
July 24th, 2007 at 12:01 amEck I see you spew line after line of saved crap from who knows what page. It would be nice to see something that is not canned besides your quick gibes as I have done to you.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:01 amNow who’s gonna get a hug? :)
I’m doing well. How are you?
Comment by Zooey — July 23, 2007
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I could use a hug.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:02 amEither way, no one cares if it’s nice or not.
Comment by gummitch
Nope, I'm not caring. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the Ick showed up here to be nice.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:02 amYes, Eck or Ick is a disgusting disease that affects tropical fish. Now you know how credible Ick/Eck is.
Comment by gummitch
Ick!
Comment by Zooey
'Zactly. When I was a kid, my dad kept tropical fish and Ick or Ich was something he always watched out for. There are fairly simple cures, I think, but Icky trolls you simply drop in the toilet and FLUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Works for PiPs as well.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:03 amRepublican is the dirtiest word in the Englisn language, and the lowest insult imaginable. Edwards has gone from moderate to liberal because liberals saved this country from the Axis powers. Republicans are selling it to China, and losing wars against camel-riders in caves. Eck is a Republican, and that's all that anhyone needs to know.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:03 am(2) Still another ancient NeoCon, hanging desperately onto the status quo!
Sorry, I have been watching too much David Brooks. I made (2) up. {:-)
Comment by hterrya
You just pulled that out of the air, didn't you?
Heh.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:04 amOnly sincerity deserves hugs
July 24th, 2007 at 12:04 amHow are you?
Comment by Zooey
Fine. I havent been much around here. Busy taking care of children and stuff. Heh.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:04 amFLUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Works for PiPs as well.
Comment by gummitch
The water treatment plant keeps b*tching when they bob to the surface.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:06 amAmount of time allotted to each debate participant.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:06 am"Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think the Ick showed up here to be nice."
I haven't been nice?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:06 amFine. I havent been much around here. Busy taking care of children and stuff. Heh.
Comment by Juan C
Just lock 'em in a closet. It always worked for me!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:06 amI’m not a neocon.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
Aw come on, Eck. If an Eck quacks like a NeoCon and acts like a NeoCon... then he must be....
A Duck!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:07 amI could use a hug.
Comment by The Eck
Uh huh.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:07 am"Only sincerity deserves hugs"
hterrya said I was honest twice already. I think I deserve a hug from zooey.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:07 amJust lock ‘em in a closet. It always worked for me!
Comment by Zooey — July 24, 2007 @ 12:06 am
Facetious?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:08 amhterrya said I was honest twice already.
Comment by The Eck — July 24, 2007 @ 12:07 am
She's one of them appeasers.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:09 amAw come on, Eck. If an Eck quacks like a NeoCon and acts like a NeoCon… then he must be….
A Duck!
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I'm just a regular conservative. I don't mind the name calling, but please don't call me a neocon.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:09 amHonesty gets more than a hug...condomns should be used even though it would not be approved of in abstenence training
July 24th, 2007 at 12:10 amBack at ya Lady Z, Yep! Kinda how I view all thread's of late.....Hug's to you and Juan....Going to leave and watch a steamy DVD of Meredith and McDreamy.....Blessings
July 24th, 2007 at 12:10 amFacetious?
Comment by Chimp
Heh. What do you think?
Hey, all the vowels are in order in that word!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:10 amDid I spell it write?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:11 ambunch of BS Gravel got to say 2 things. Kucinich got a few good words in. He oughta this was his night.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:12 amBack at ya Lady Z, Yep! Kinda how I view all thread’s of late…..Hug’s to you and Juan….Going to leave and watch a steamy DVD of Meredith and McDreamy…..Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Wow. Enjoy!!
Hugs!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:12 amQuestion to Eck: A Conservative friend told me that his world view is a view that sees only opportunity. If you agree with that view, would you forgo the health, faftey or rights of another to take advantage of that opportunity?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:12 amDid I spell it write?
Comment by Chimp
Good, Chimp!! Here's half an apple!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:13 amZooey, psst, I think Eck likes you! He winked at you at #99!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:13 amA Conservative friend told me that his world view is a view that sees only opportunity. If you agree with that view, would you forgo the health, faftey or rights of another to take advantage of that opportunity?
Comment by mediadog — July 24, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Thank you for not asking me that one.
That's a toughie.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:14 amZooey, psst, I think Eck likes you! He winked at you at #99!
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
I was ignoring that. :D
July 24th, 2007 at 12:14 amThat Neocon thing hit a little too close to home, Eck?
Trust me, I know what it feels like.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:16 amI’m just a regular conservative. I don’t mind the name calling, but please don’t call me a neocon.
Comment by The Eck — July 24, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Then you'll have to stop acting like the colonoscopy tube shoved up the current corrupt, crooked presidents rear AND stop imitating the president-in-charge-of-Vice, SiCKO DiCKO!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:17 amQuestion to Eck: A Conservative friend told me that his world view is a view that sees only opportunity. If you agree with that view, would you forgo the health, faftey or rights of another to take advantage of that opportunity?
Comment by mediadog
Your conservative friend (why?) is not talking about opportunities to help people, or solve problems, just opportunities to make money and gain power. has he taken advantage of the opportunity to defend the USA from the Muslim hordes? Unlikely. If he's a conservative, he is a craven coward and a less-evolved human than if he were a liberal or progressive.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:17 amLook at the time!
I gotta get up early tomorrow and make fun of Cindy Sheehan.
It's been great chatting with you, my fellow Americans.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:18 amMy self proclaimed Conservative friend has taken was seems to be a popular route for many Republicans now a days... He is now an Independent. It seems some Republicans would rather immigrate than change thier own party.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:19 amIt’s been great chatting with you, my fellow Americans.
Comment by Chimp
Goodnight, Chimp. Try not to miss your nap tomorrow. We don't want to be cranky.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:20 amspeaking of colostomy tubes,
July 24th, 2007 at 12:20 amI coined a new phrase earlier,
since neocons are mostly about a new Colonial empire, I dubbed them
NeoColonials, or shorter,
NeoColons.
He just as you Ronjazz had an opportunity to answer in like fashion. He, however, was only able to change the subject, perhaps as Eck is by not responding... We will see.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:22 am"would you forgo the health, faftey or rights of another to take advantage of that opportunity?"
No, I wouldn't. I don't need to.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:22 amThen you’ll have to stop acting like the colonoscopy tube shoved up the current corrupt, crooked presidents rear AND stop imitating the president-in-charge-of-Vice, SiCKO DiCKO!
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If you were going after Bush on spending or immigration, I'd agree with you.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:24 amNeoColonials, or shorter,
NeoColons.
Comment by RUCerious
NeoColons (tm)
Just sayin' :)
July 24th, 2007 at 12:24 amWhat does that mean Eck?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:24 amGood Lord, I forgot the topic of the thread! I was having so much fun making fun of Eck..... {;-)
Oh, yeah, the debate. I didn't watch it, but I figured if Wolf Blister was involved, it couldn't amount to much!
Actually, I was out to dinner with friends. Some of things the non-trolls in here said, made me think I might have missed something.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:24 amOh, yeah and pronounce it correctly.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:25 amNee-yaw-kuh-lawns.
"Zooey, psst, I think Eck likes you! He winked at you at #99!"
I do. I also like hterrya.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:25 amDinner, Lunch... what the diff hyterra?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:25 am"NeoColons."
Comment by RUCerious — July 24, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Are we going to start up the "behind" jokes again? ;-) Oh, well, I'm off to bed. Goodnight Zoo, goodnight RUCerious!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:26 amRUCerious, funny and priceless...Blessings
July 24th, 2007 at 12:26 amNite all! Bedtime for 5AM alarm :{
July 24th, 2007 at 12:26 amBlessings and a nite nite from Amber, Sharon!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:26 amGoodnight, Jane. Early night, eh? :)
July 24th, 2007 at 12:27 am"I was having so much fun making fun of Eck….."
Hey!!!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:27 amGoodnight, Captain!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:27 amNite, RUCerious!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:28 amSharon, I didn't realize you were still here, or I would have bid you goodnight, too! Hope you hugged Bear and a tree or two for me and Wayne this morning!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:28 amIf you were going after Bush on spending or immigration, I’d agree with you.
Comment by The Eck — July 24, 2007 @ 12:24 am
So what bits of the King do you like best?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:29 amEarly night, eh? :)
Comment by Zooey — July 24, 2007 @ 12:27 am
Yeah, busy day tomorrow 'cause I took off today. I am NOT looking forward to it!
Goodnight, all!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:29 am"So what bits of the King do you like best?"
He appointed some good judges.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:30 amOk... the expected response from Eck as expected from Cons... NONE that is decipherable in the english language. I am out. Talk to ya when you have a point beside the one on your head.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:31 amGoodnight Jane.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:32 amIt seems some Republicans would rather immigrate than change thier own party.
Comment by mediadog — July 24, 2007 @ 12:19 am
The NeoCons have such a deathgrip on the party, I doubt if they can ever change it!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:32 amRUCerious, give sweet Amber a kiss, hug and a big Blessing from me......Untill we all meet again....
July 24th, 2007 at 12:32 amHe appointed some good judges.
Comment by The Eck — July 24, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Name one!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:34 amHe appointed some good judges.
Comment by The Eck
No, he didn't. That wasn't the question, and you know it.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:35 amRoberts.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:35 am#127: I’m still thinking about that “percentagesâ€, Jim.
Don’t want you to think I forgot you.
Let me know what you come up with.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:36 am"No, he didn’t."
Harriet Myers wasn't that good, but he made up for it with Alito.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:36 amRoberts.
Comment by The Eck — July 24, 2007 @ 12:35 am
Why is Roberts a good judge?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:37 am#121: Jim, noboby is going to admit they are a liberal to a pollster. It’s a dirty word.
It's only a dirty word to people who aren't liberals.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:37 amHarriet Myers wasn’t that good, but he made up for it with Alito.
Comment by The Eck
No, he didn't. You're still not answering my question.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:38 amName one!
Comment by hterrya — July 24, 2007 @ 12:34 am
No, he didn’t.
Comment by Zooey — July 24, 2007 @ 12:35 am
Zooey, I LOVE tag-teaming Eck with you like that. Let's do it some more!
Naaah, that would be too easy. Let's try something more difficult.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:39 am"Why is Roberts a good judge?"
His sound temperament and allegance to the constitution.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:39 amSorry I missed you most recent post...Saw the one this morning and did better than just hug the big guy's/// Had 5 small cedar's that were growing in my flower pot's, seed's fell from the big one's last year I guess...Planted them all out in their own big pot's for us all this morning....My jungle is thriving and soon all the tree's will have to have all of our name's as sponser's.....Blessings all..Sharon's leaving...lol...
July 24th, 2007 at 12:39 am"It’s only a dirty word to people who aren’t liberals."
Well, sure that's why you guys want to go by progressives now.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:39 am"Zooey, I LOVE tag-teaming Eck with you like that."
hehe me too.
Kidding, kidding.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:40 amZooey, I LOVE tag-teaming Eck with you like that. Let’s do it some more!
Naaah, that would be too easy. Let’s try something more difficult.
Comment by hterrya
It's cool. :)
I'm tired tonight, so I'm taking it easy on the Ick.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:41 amHis sound temperament and allegance to the constitution.
Comment by The Eck
Prove it.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:42 am"I bet they found a missing white girl in the audience!!
Comment by Zooey — July 23, 2007"
Where have you been zooey? We were looking for you on a thread yesterday to help mike figure out which Geneva Convention afforded compassion to people who what to kill us. First he trotted out the 4th! Well when that didn't work he trotted out the first! Mike, have you figured it out yet?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:42 amBlessings all..Sharon’s leaving…lol…
Comment by Sharon
Goodnight, Great Lady. Scratch that pup's ears for me. :)
July 24th, 2007 at 12:43 am"I’m tired tonight, so I’m taking it easy on the Ick.
Comment by Zooey — July 24, 2007"
Tough day in gospel study?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:44 am"Prove it."
He sailed through the confirmation hearing with ease. Even Feingold voted for him, if I'm not mistaken.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:44 amhehe me too.
Kidding, kidding.
Comment by The Eck
Uh huh.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:44 am#211: His sound temperament and allegance to the constitution.
Personally, I'd much prefer that he had allegiance to the Constitution than allegance to it. And I'd prefer that he be faithful to the U.S. Constitution, rather than the one Bush made up in his head.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:45 amIt’s only a dirty word to people who aren’t liberals.
Comment by Jim
That's meaningless.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:46 amHe sailed through the confirmation hearing with ease. Even Feingold voted for him, if I’m not mistaken.
Comment by The Eck
That doesn't exactly come under the heading of proof, Ick.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:46 am"Where have you been zooey? We were looking for you on a thread yesterday to help mike figure out which Geneva Convention afforded compassion to people who what to kill us. First he trotted out the 4th! Well when that didn’t work he trotted out the first! Mike, have you figured it out yet?
Comment by michael — July 24, 2007"
July 24th, 2007 at 12:47 amHave you?
It seems some Republicans would rather immigrate than change thier own party.
LOL seems funny that the Republicans didn't see the connection to the immigration issue. How come the Mexicans won't stay and fix thier own sytem?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:47 amWell, sure that’s why you guys want to go by progressives now.
Comment by The Eck — July 24, 2007 @ 12:39 am
I don't mind being called "liberal." Hey, it's in the King Jimmy version of the Bible! (1 Timothy 6:18)
Now try to find "conservative" or even "conserve."
Hint: you won't!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:48 am#214: Well, sure that’s why you guys want to go by progressives now.
Some people think they're two distinct philosophies. I think they're fairly interchangeable. I'm equally content to be called "liberal" or "progressive." "Progressive" sounds a little hipper, maybe. But what are you saying, that liberals, when asked about their political persuasion, tell pollsters that they're conservative? That's just weird logic.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:49 am"That doesn’t exactly come under the heading of proof, Ick.
Comment by Zooey — July 24, 2007"
Meaning?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:49 am"That doesn’t exactly come under the heading of proof, Ick."
I'd prefer Eck, but whatever you are comfortable with.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:49 am#224: That’s meaningless.
Huh?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:50 am"But what are you saying, that liberals, when asked about their political persuasion, tell pollsters that they’re conservative?"
No, moderate. They don't want to offend the pollster.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:50 am"That’s just weird logic.
Comment by Jim — July 24, 2007"
Jim, have another hit!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:51 amI’d prefer Eck, but whatever you are comfortable with.
Comment by The Eck
Hell, I'd be comfortable with assh*le. Careful what you wish for.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:51 amNow try to find “conservative†or even “conserve.â€
Hint: you won’t!
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Jesus was a liberal, I fully admit that.
But he'd be driving a gas guzzling SUV today, though. How else would he lug those 12 guys around.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:52 am#232: They don’t want to offend the pollster.
How considerate of them. I know I lie awake at night, worrying about potentially offending pollsters.
That's some pretty rigorous argumentation, there, fella.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:52 amWell, sure that’s why you guys want to go by progressives now.
Comment by The Eck — July 24, 2007 @ 12:39 am
I'm with hterrya. Very comfortable being called a liberal. I don't even mind being called a hippy.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:53 am#234: Jim, have another hit!
I'll try, but I don't even think that would make that comment make sense.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:53 am"Hell, I’d be comfortable with assh*le. Careful what you wish for."
lol. Being called a neocon is worse in my opinion.
You are very sarcastic, zooey. I don't hate it.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:54 amNo, moderate. They don’t want to offend the pollster.
Comment by The Eck
I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that one, Ick.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:54 am"That doesn’t exactly come under the heading of proof, Ick.
Comment by Zooey — July 24, 2007"
zooey, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honarable Discharge? Any of you zooey lovers, chime right in?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:55 am#238: I don’t even mind being called a hippy.
How about a hippy-dippy?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:55 amYou are very sarcastic, zooey. I don’t hate it.
Comment by The Eck
It's a gift. I'm glad you can appreciate it.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:56 am"I’m with hterrya. Very comfortable being called a liberal."
Some probably most don't. John Kerry wasn't comfortable with it.
The owners of this site didn't call it Think Liberal.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:56 amhttp://kerry.senate.gov/
July 24th, 2007 at 12:56 amgovernment bureaucracy
July 24th, 2007 at 12:57 amHow about a hippy-dippy?
Comment by Jim
Go for it, Jim. :D
July 24th, 2007 at 12:57 amzooey, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honarable Discharge? Any of you zooey lovers, chime right in?
Comment by michael — July 24, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Not this again... What does this have to do with anything and why do you obsess so about it?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:57 am. How come the Mexicans won’t stay and fix thier own sytem?
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Basically, it is the same answer I gave about folks leaving the Repulican party - Comment by hterrya — July 24, 2007 @ 12:32 am (#200, as of now):
The oligarchs in Mexico have such a deathgrip on their country, I doubt if they can ever change it!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:57 am#245: The owners of this site didn’t call it Think Liberal.
That might have something to do with the fact that "liberal" is an adjective.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:57 am#238 I’m with hterrya. Very comfortable being called a liberal. I don’t even mind being called a hippy.
Comment by Zooey
Zooey,
Either of those two monikers are better than being called a republican right now.
Must really suck to be at the bottom of the political food chain... with still more ground to give up before this assclown show in the WH is over!!
July 24th, 2007 at 12:57 amThe owners of this site didn’t call it Think Liberal.
Comment by The Eck
It's their site, not mine. ThinkLiberal just doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely, does it?
July 24th, 2007 at 12:58 amEither of those two monikers are better than being called a republican right now.
Too true! Even Republicans won't own up to it!!
Must really suck to be at the bottom of the political food chain… with still more ground to give up before this assclown show in the WH is over!!
Comment by upside00
*tiny violin playing*
:-D
July 24th, 2007 at 1:00 am#253: ThinkLiberal just doesn’t roll off the tongue as nicely, does it?
No. No, it doesn't. "Think Liberally" isn't too bad, but it sort of sounds like "drink liberally," which I feel like doing after reading posts by The Eck and Michael.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:00 amAnn Coulter has left the building.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:01 amBedtime. Good night, people. Good night, trolls.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:01 am"http://kerry.senate.gov/" Oh my God! Should I get down on my hands an knees to surrender like the rest of the spineless leftists??
July 24th, 2007 at 1:01 amThat might have something to do with the fact that “liberal†is an adjective.
Comment by Jim — July 24, 2007 @ 12:57 am
I suppose Eck is one of those who says "Drive Safe"
July 24th, 2007 at 1:01 am#248 zooey, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honarable Discharge? Any of you zooey lovers, chime right in?
Comment by michael — July 24, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Not this again… What does this have to do with anything and why do you obsess so about it?
Comment by dbadass
dbadass,
Because they ahve nothing else to go with... other than living in the past and trying to channel ronnie raygunz back to the future because they got nothing else!
July 24th, 2007 at 1:02 amNo. No, it doesn’t. “Think Liberally†isn’t too bad, but it sort of sounds like “drink liberally,†which I feel like doing after reading posts by The Eck and Michael.
Comment by Jim
There are groups called Drink Liberally, I think. Awwww, don't let 'em get ya down. Flies buzzing....
July 24th, 2007 at 1:02 amAnn Coulter forgot her handbag.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:02 amGoodnight, Jim!
July 24th, 2007 at 1:03 amYou are very informed and intelligent Zooey, I will give you that.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:04 am#249 You miss the whole point. We are fighting and giving our lives in Iraq to liberate the masses there. Why are the Mexicans not getting the same help from the U.S.A to liberate the people from the same type of despots that control thier contry.
Answer. They have no WMD or there is money to be made by not taking action.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:05 amI suppose Eck is one of those who says “Drive Safeâ€
Comment by dbadass
Ack! No, that makes my ears wiggle!
That's what Zoo Jr says....
July 24th, 2007 at 1:05 amI think we should keep Eck as a pet troll.
I think we should ask TP to shove Michael's butt off the thread for being a threat to humanity and the lowest, creepiest, dirtiest, filthiest kind of puss-filled troll.
Wanna take a vote non-troll folks?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:05 am#261 Ann Coulter forgot her handbag.
Comment by John F. Kerry
July 24th, 2007 at 1:06 amEWWW!!! Don't touch it, that might be the largest biohazard in the US, outside of his/her little black cocktail dress!!
You are very informed and intelligent Zooey, I will give you that.
Comment by The Eck
Thanks.
You're still not getting that hug. :D
July 24th, 2007 at 1:06 amI will grudgingly keep Eck if it means michael goes.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:07 amThinkHillary, is more like it.
You don't think Podesta is going to push for her?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:08 amWanna take a vote non-troll folks?
Comment by hterrya
I feel strongly both ways. :-)
Goodnight all!
July 24th, 2007 at 1:08 amThe neo-cons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative
Well, sure that’s why you guys want to go by progressives now.
Comment by The Eck
Methinks Ecks doesn't know what a neo-con is.
Leo-cons! Nutty Professors!
July 24th, 2007 at 1:09 amWe are fighting and giving our lives in Iraq to liberate the masses there.
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 1:05 am
Once I read THAT crock of crap, I stopped reading the rest of your post.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:09 amThat’s what Zoo Jr says….
Comment by Zooey — July 24, 2007 @ 1:05 am
It's worse here. The beginner badasses have picked up that annoying NE "on accident" instead of "by accident"
July 24th, 2007 at 1:09 amNight Zooey!!
Sleep SAFE!!!
(Wanted to see those sexy ears wiggle)
July 24th, 2007 at 1:09 amCarol Costello is a ditz. She used to be on a DC morning talk show before CNN hired her. She hasn't improved a bit.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:09 amYou don’t think Podesta is going to push for her?
Comment by The Eck
It's got nothing to do with us. We think for ourselves.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:10 amGuess we can all stop reading Eck(ie)s posts, what a stupid tool.
Eck the new Jake - or is it Jake with a new name, any way he sucks a$$
IGNORE THE TROLLS - please just skip over Eck(ie)s posts, he is on an overdose of stupid pills
July 24th, 2007 at 1:10 amGoodnight Zooey. Sleep well, so you can cream the creepy NeoCons again tomorrow!
July 24th, 2007 at 1:11 amwell screw it, nearly every post is one by the Eck(ie) or ppl responding to that ass...I'm done, not coming back, bye all
July 24th, 2007 at 1:12 amSleep SAFE!!!
(Wanted to see those sexy ears wiggle)
Comment by upside00
You b*stard!
Goodnight again. :-)
July 24th, 2007 at 1:12 amGoodnight hterrya and Zooey.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:12 am#273 hterrya does not recognize factiousness or irony.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:13 am"well screw it, nearly every post is one by the Eck(ie) or ppl responding to that ass…I’m done, not coming back, bye all"
Well, I had a good time.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:15 amFactiousness?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:16 amhterrya, you are quite funny. I enjoy reading your posts. And you're smart too.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:16 amLiberal chicks are the hottest.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:17 amFlirting does not make them smart or you... how about working the issues?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:19 amwell screw it, nearly every post is one by the Eck(ie) or ppl responding to that ass…I’m done, not coming back, bye all
Comment by Buck Fush — July 24, 2007 @ 1:12 am
Aww, come on Buck Fush (love that name)! We already have three votes (albeit one grudgingly) to keep Eck as our pet troll.
(1) Comment by hterrya — July 24, 2007 @ 1:05 am
July 24th, 2007 at 1:21 am(2) Comment by John F. Kerry — July 24, 2007 @ 1:07 am
(3) Comment by Zooey — July 24, 2007 @ 1:08 am
#289 Flirting does not make them smart or you… how about working the issues?
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter
What a concept!! Something that has slipped in thepast several months, as some of the trollshere have worked hard to move off the issues.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:21 amstupidity it seems
July 24th, 2007 at 1:23 amLarry Flynt is a tease.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:27 amIt seems to me that Obama won this one, don't you HONESTLY think so?
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/07/democratic-presidential-candidates.html#links
July 24th, 2007 at 1:28 am“well screw it, nearly every post is one by the Eck(ie) or ppl responding to that ass…I’m done, not coming back, bye allâ€
Well, I had a good time.
Comment by The Eck — July 24, 2007 @ 1:15 am
See there Eck, that's why you got three votes to keep you as our pet troll!
Yeah, OK, one vote was given grudgingly, but it was a vote. (Reminds me of having to vote for Blue Dog Democrats, because NeoCons are so much worse.) {;-)
July 24th, 2007 at 1:28 am#273 hterrya does not recognize factiousness or irony.
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 1:13 am
Once I see a regurgitation of NeoCon drivel (even being facetious or ironic), my NeoCon crap alarm goes off. Didn't mean to offend.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:33 amLarry Flynt is a tease.
Comment by John F. Kerry — July 24, 2007 @ 1:27 am
What do you mean by that?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:34 amWe are fighting and giving our lives in Iraq to liberate the masses there.
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 1:05 am
So why do the vast majority want us out of their country A.S.A.P.? And a small majority agree with attacks on our troops?
Could it be because we have turned it into such a failed state that only Sudan is worse in the whole world? Or the one million we have killed? Or the four million refugees? Or the 60% unemployment? Or the lack of electricity, gas, or clean water?
Guess some people are just ingrates!!!
July 24th, 2007 at 1:39 amParting view:
Those that have opinions here and do not stay to discuss and defend thier views, or tend to deflect to personal attack, while presenting no substance, are shallow and as such should be recognized as providing no direction for this country. If you can hold your view with reason and fact than you deserve to be heard. To say your position is "Just" based on the wrong doings of others in the past, deserves nothing less than contempt by those of us looking for justice.
Those wishing honest discussion should not cloud thier desire for such by deflection.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:39 amI gave nothing but facts.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:40 am#301 guilty conscience?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:42 amTroll alert! Man the battlements! disenfranchisedvoter is flaming!
July 24th, 2007 at 1:44 amread 299, it is only facts.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:44 amYour "liberating the masses" is a wild delusion. I gave you facts to refute it. Reply to what I said.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:46 amParting view:
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 1:39 am
#301 guilty conscience?
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 1:42 am
He lied.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:46 amLet me clear my position. I am a PROGRESSIVE. I think that our government is to be scrutinized at all times. My points were not in direct opposition to the most recent posts, but posts in general.
I appologize to those offended
July 24th, 2007 at 1:48 amWe went there because their wmd's were such a threat (official version)---to steal their oil (truth).
July 24th, 2007 at 1:48 amComment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 1:39 am
Wow, I just thought you were being factious or ironic. If you ment that dumb crap about liberation then I'm gonna have to go with Keith G
July 24th, 2007 at 1:49 amI appologize to those offended
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 1:48 am
Apology accepted.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:49 amSo the liberation of Iraqis was sarcasm?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:49 amor facetious?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:50 amwhy did you ask if I had a guilty conscience?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:51 amor whatever "factious" is.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:51 amor whatever “factious†is.
Comment by dbadass — July 24, 2007 @ 1:51 am
Hey, dbadass, give yourself credit. At this time of night, if you can type at all, you get extra points!
July 24th, 2007 at 1:54 amMore on topic:
What we learn:
Kucinich has all the right policies, but he can't be president since he is short, a vegetarian, does not raise enough money, and only recently got married.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:55 amThe liberating of Iraqis was BS and unnecessary if that is what you want to know.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:55 amit's only 10:55 on the left coast
July 24th, 2007 at 1:56 amNice to know your time zone.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:57 amwhat am I supposed to have a guilty conscience about?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:57 amAs I said... do you have something based in reality/fact to discuss?
July 24th, 2007 at 1:57 amThe liberating of Iraqis was BS and unnecessary if that is what you want to know.
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 1:55 am
How about the comment about the Mexican immigrants? (See, I read your post, after all.) {:-)
July 24th, 2007 at 1:57 amWell the Democrats don't have any plans for any of the issues facing the country. Heck, the new Congress hasn't done anything. When is that "first 100 days" agenda going to start, anyways?
So if CNN wants to talk about their dress or watch gazing, there must not have been any substance to the debate.
I bet more Americans watched "Age of Love" on TV tonight.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:58 amWe learned that CNN is for communists, but they are afraid to tell pollsters that they are liberal, so they say they are moderate. Makes sense to trolls.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:00 amKucinich has all the right policies, but he can’t be president since he is short, a vegetarian, does not raise enough money, and only recently got married.
Comment by Keith G — July 24, 2007 @ 1:55 am
Thanks for reminding me that this thread is about how CNN can never be taken seriously on political issues (or much of anything else). That is the stuff you would expect to hear from Wolf Blister.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:00 amEver noticed all the Lockheed-Martin, Raytheon, Exxon, US Army, and GE ads on CNN?
July 24th, 2007 at 2:02 amGet some gutts and fix your party.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:02 am"Kucinich has all the right policies"
This may be a tad too enthusiastic, but Kucinich would be the nominee in the world i wished I lived in. Thing is that it isn't. There has to be a better way to get him and his ideas greater exposure. I also think having always been around kitchens, that it would be a freakin' riot to have a vegan pres escpecially when hosting gatherings of international heads of state
July 24th, 2007 at 2:03 amCarol Costello said Gravel was like the crazy uncle you meet at Thanksgiving. I resemble that remark!
July 24th, 2007 at 2:03 amW probably gives the Muslims and Jews pork ribs.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:04 amIn my opinion Kucinich has the right policies---along with Nader and Sanders.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:06 amThanks for reminding me that this thread is about how CNN can never be taken seriously on political issues (or much of anything else). That is the stuff you would expect to hear from Wolf Blister.
Comment by hterrya — July 24, 2007 @ 2:00 am
I quess I'd better get going then as I have no idea of the topic as I choose to be essentially a television luddite.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:06 amfreakin’ riot to have a vegan pres escpecially when hosting gatherings of international heads of state
Comment by dbadass — July 24, 2007 @ 2:03 am
Having paid a lot of attention to Kucinich's attitudes on dealing gently with other people, I'm guessing he'd probably serve them meat and stick to vegan himself. That should keep the White House cooks hopping!
July 24th, 2007 at 2:08 amAnyone that puts any network above C-SPAN for information is talking out of thier ass.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:08 amGet some gutts and fix your party.
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 2:02 am
Who? me? All by myself? Or are you talking to the masses?
July 24th, 2007 at 2:08 amIn my opinion Kucinich has the right policies—along with Nader and Sanders.
Comment by Keith G — July 24, 2007 @ 2:06 am
I share that opinion, Keith.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:09 amFreeSpeechTV and LinkTV are good ones on my DishNetwork.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:10 amKeith is a Mexican I think... Poor wittle me... how can I make a difference... How bout you quit being a mouth piece for the Wing?
July 24th, 2007 at 2:10 amThanks hterrya. I still don't know where disenfranchisedvoter is coming from.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:11 amAnyone that puts any network above C-SPAN for information is talking out of thier ass.
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 2:08 am
No, I'm talking out of my opinion. I consider PBS a "network," so it is PBS over C-Span for me, hands down!
July 24th, 2007 at 2:12 amHaving paid a lot of attention to Kucinich’s attitudes on dealing gently with other people, I’m guessing he’d probably serve them meat and stick to vegan himself. That should keep the White House cooks hopping!
Comment by hterrya — July 24, 2007 @ 2:08 am
I think you are probably correct. I just like to imagine the humor in the possibility. In a former life I was involved in a B&B on an orgainc farm when the vegen thing was first "hip". Kucinich seems to be the real deal though. Thank God, we only had to do breakfast.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:12 amKeith is a Mexican I think… Poor wittle me… how can I make a difference… How bout you quit being a mouth piece for the Wing?
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 2:10 am
I can't figure out what you are talking about. Can you elucidate?
July 24th, 2007 at 2:12 amAre we talking to the faithful or am I speaking to the Right?? If you noted before my position then you would know where I am coming from.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:13 amI never said anything about Mexicans.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:13 amA mouth piece for what wing?
July 24th, 2007 at 2:14 amLet me back up and mend bridges if possible
July 24th, 2007 at 2:15 amWhen I get ???? type responses then I need to back up because the point is important.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:16 amDo you mean the wing of 71% of Americans (including 42% of Republicans) who want us out of Iraq?
July 24th, 2007 at 2:16 amAs my point is obviously not clear to you... your view is not clear to me
July 24th, 2007 at 2:17 amI fall in the 71+% to get us out
July 24th, 2007 at 2:18 amKeith is a Mexican I think… Poor wittle me… how can I make a difference… How bout you quit being a mouth piece for the Wing?
Comment by disenfranchisedvoter — July 24, 2007 @ 2:10 am
Si, Señor, Don Keith es un mejicano de pura sepa, y el dice "¡Chinge Bush!" y "¡Chinge disenfranchisedvoter, y el barque en que vino sus padres malditos!
July 24th, 2007 at 2:18 amI thought that I was presenting this view as being in opposition to Con views
July 24th, 2007 at 2:19 amThey might as well have Joan Rivers do the news.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:19 amI fall into the 66% that want universal, single-payer, government-run healthcare.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:20 amWow … 68 posts and not one of our usual trolls has been able to provide a single substantive comment on the debate.
Comment by PaulB — July 23, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
Lack of substantive subject matter. ;)
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speaking of colostomy tubes,
I coined a new phrase earlier,
since neocons are mostly about a new Colonial empire, I dubbed them
NeoColonials, or shorter,
NeoColons.
Comment by RUCerious — July 24, 2007 @ 12:20 am
By all means, lefties PLEASE take up his new term to spare him days and days of reminding you of it like the last guy did with his new word. ;)
July 24th, 2007 at 2:20 amLOL any other points I need to explain?
July 24th, 2007 at 2:20 amSi, Señor, Don Keith es un mejicano de pura sepa, y el dice “¡Chinge Bush!†y “¡Chinge disenfranchisedvoter, y el barque en que vino sus padres malditos!
Comment by hterrya
I understand less than half of those words. My first, last, and middle names are Scottish.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:22 amI feel safe that this thread will die by tomorrow as it should and we can take up our inane discussion furhter then.
GN
July 24th, 2007 at 2:24 amKeith, trust me, I was tearing disenfranchisedvoter a new one in Spanish. With that ignorant comment he made, he deserves it.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:25 amI thought so, but I still don't know what you said. disenfran sounded drunk to me.
My sister-in-law was from Mexico about the first six of her fifty years. She grew up in the San Fran area. I love her and my nephew.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:28 amTranslation:
Yes sir, Don Keith (a title of respect) is an authentic Mexican, and he says, "Buck Fush" and "Buck disenfranchisedvoter and the ship his bastard ancestors came in on!"
July 24th, 2007 at 2:32 amI have spent enough time with the good people of Mexico and other Spanish-speaking countries to get mighty hot under the collar when some dumb-nuts start bad-mouthing them (drunk or not)!
July 24th, 2007 at 2:38 amWhoever said that they would arrest TRAITORS Bush and Cheney and jail them until they die and go to hell
should get ALL the votes of REAL Americans.
Remember to call your US Rep and also John Conyers and tell them to IMPEACH these TRAITOR coxucker PUNKS...
1-800-828-0498
Treasonously yours from the pits of hades,
Traitor Ronnie and my Master Satan
July 24th, 2007 at 3:45 amso lets see, we have obama saying we should invade pakistan and also saying stopping genocide is not something our troops should do. we have biden saying we should take troops out of the iraq civil war and put them into the sudan/darfur civil war. we have gravel saying all the soldiers died in vain because he can get ice cream in vietnam today (not mentioning the millions who died along the way the last 35 years). we have democrats who want to reward chavez, and castro, and iran and syria with high profile diplomatic meetings. we have democrats who said if two american cities were attacked by al queda that we WOULD NOT RESPOND militarily.
isn't time the left just admit they have no better ideas then bush on how to win this war on terror or how to deal with our enemies. the left slings mud very well, but they come up far short on solutions.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:06 amwe have democrats who said if two american cities were attacked by al queda that we WOULD NOT RESPOND militarily.
Really??? PROVE IT! Or are you just another LIAR and TRAITOR like Bush and Cheney??
What a Democratic president should do:
The FIRST thing that should be done by a Democratic president would be to ARREST Bush and Cheney.
The SECOND would be to get out of Iraq,
The THIRD would be to go get Bush family BUSINESS PARTNER,
Osama bin Laden...
July 24th, 2007 at 4:46 amIts refreshing to see that, once again, CNN gets at the heart of the real issues affecting the country.
July 24th, 2007 at 5:47 amImage does matter whether we like it or not. Hillary could do herself a big favor by not wearing pink. She is rather stocky and the color does not help her profile. White would work well or maybe red. She should look at Michelle Bachelet and Ségolène Royal.
Also, the thick fabric is bad for her. She should have lighterweight fabric. Unfortunately, the standard suit is universally accepted for men, but there is no universal standard for women.
July 24th, 2007 at 5:49 amComment by liberals destroyed america — July 24, 2007 @ 4:06 am
Clinton Said: "(I would) use a lot of high-level presidential envoys to test the waters, to feel the way. But certainly, we're not going to just have our president meet with Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez and, you know, the president of North Korea, Iran and Syria until we know better what the way forward would be."
Biden:HE SAID: Twenty-five hundred American troops to Darfur.
LDA, YOU SAID: we have democrats who said if two american cities were attacked by al queda that we WOULD NOT RESPOND militarily.
First who said this? And second, what country would you attack?
Are conservatives the new liberals?
July 24th, 2007 at 5:57 amLiberal with the Constitution. Liberal with your money. Squandered international goodwill following 9/11 after abandoning hunt for bin laden and invading a country with nothing to do with 9/11. Calling America "The Homeland", like Hitler called Germany "The Fatherland". Had to use the word Patriot in order to get a string of laws passed that are the harbinger of old communist Russia. (A vote against the PATRIOT Act, "makes you a non patriot".)
Well, some hard-hitting analysis by CNN. Okay, they're talking about how the candidates dressed, right? They are trying to make the point that the candidates aren't relating to the YouTube crowd.
I would think that the younger generation would be far more upset with CNN for implying that they are too shallow to look beyond outward attire to hear the messages of the candidates.
Perhaps this is why CNN is losing to the internet as a news source.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:04 amCNN’s post-debate analysis tackles the tough questions.
Didn't you run a story yesterday about why some woman didn't date Karl Rove 20 years ago ? Tougher than that ?
July 24th, 2007 at 6:06 amEck:
First off: CNN is so liberal that Larry King postponed an interview with Michael Moore in favour of Paris Hilton.
It is so liberal that just prior to the Michael Moore interview, they ran a minute long hitpeace that lied about what was included in Michael Moore's latest movie (How much Cubans pay for healthcare. CNN obviously didn't watch the movie before critiquing it.)
Yep, that is yer liberal media. Next you will be calling Time Magazine liberal, you know that same Time Magazine that named Bush man of the year in 2004.
Your liberal media myth is simply a construct you build to hide yourself from the facts. Instead of confronting your ignorance, you run to a news channel that defended its right to lie to its viewers in court.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:18 amThe defining wings:
Basically, there are four different sections of the bird of the body politic:
You have the wings. Left wing is in favour of change, rightwing is against it.
When the rightwing is stronger then the left, you get Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and just about any evil dictator, communist or fascist, you can think of. This is because the rightwing views power as an end in and of itself, and is highly suspicious of change.
When the leftwing is stronger then the right, you get anarchy.
When the wings are too small (In other words, not enough differences exist between them) you get stagnation. The bird in essence doesn't fly.
There are however, two other "wings." The beak, and the backside. The beak looks to the here and now, to make sure that everyone gets fed, everyone gets a say, and that today's problems get solved.
The beak is what is termed a progressive: Progressive's look at health care, see a problem, and want it to be fixed. That the solution is leftwing is beside the point, it is basically needed.
The backside on the other hand, is your neocon movement. They don't actually look forward to anything, only back on some golden age which never existed. While the progressive looks to how to make the here and now better, the neocon looks towards shitting all over America's legacy.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:37 am#370-
Bruce- nice piece.
Here is something I found on the baseless claim that the media is liberal.
Conservatives often promote the myth that the U.S. media are liberal. This myth serves several purposes: it raises public skepticism about liberal news stories, hides conservative bias when it appears, and goads the media to the right. GOP strategist William Kristol also reveals another reason: "I admit it: the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures."
The fact is that conservatives have powerful friends in the media: the corporations that own them, and the corporations that pay for their advertising. These giant firms have been increasingly successful in bending the media's message to suit their self-interests, which include a conservative and pro-corporate agenda.
The potential for abuse by corporate owners is obvious. Just one example was General Electric's earlier buyout of NBC News. General Electric is the 10th largest company in the United States. It is a major Defense contractor and an international player on the world market.
Shortly after the company acquired NBC, a GE executive announced that NBC should start a political action committee to contribute money to strengthen the company's influence in Washington. Failure to cooperate, the executive said, would raise questions about the employees' "dedication to the company."
July 24th, 2007 at 6:45 amBruce Gorton:
I don't want to ruin your metaphor, but I wonder if the neocon might be the brain of the bird.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:48 amisn’t time the left just admit they have no better ideas then bush on how to win this war on terror or how to deal with our enemies. the left slings mud very well, but they come up far short on solutions.
Comment by liberals destroyed america
And just so I make this clear, the [freedom operation] in Iraq has actually undermined the global war on terror. They are creating more terrorists than they are getting rid of. We should NOT, i think, be refferring to the effort to instill Democracy in Iraq as a WAR. It also does not help when people of religious means refer to it as a WAR against Muslims. It exacerbates and undermines the Democratic effort!!! And to throw out the red herring net. I don't love the Muslims [I would like to see a more peaceful middle east] and I am not a surrender monkey. I supported the last surge because of the pottery barn rule of you break it you buy it.
And that folks, like it or not, is my heartfelt opinion.
July 24th, 2007 at 7:31 amI can imagine nothing more futile than arguing with a zipperhead about whether the media is liberal. We know who owns these big conglomerates. We know who pays them advertising dollars. We don't need to spend a lot of energy being distracted by this nonsense. Just let them yammer like a baboon unchallenged and they'll dry up and go away.
July 24th, 2007 at 7:41 amisn’t time the left just admit they have no better ideas then bush on how to win this war on terror or how to deal with our enemies. the left slings mud very well, but they come up far short on solutions.
Comment by liberals destroyed america — July 24, 2007 @ 4:06 am
July 24th, 2007 at 7:58 am------------------------------------------------------------
I would say so, but they won't. At the very least they should walk away with their tales between their legs.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2007/07/bush-charts-of-today.html
1.1bio$ to dead farmers and - sorry - no foreign policy at the moment
July 24th, 2007 at 8:11 amSo, glad CNN is focusing on some of the most important issues of our time : meanwhile our men & women are dying everyday for Cheney Oil War and Iraqi's are dying in the crossroads.
Shameful.
The Sycophantic Sleeping Media Prevails!
July 24th, 2007 at 8:15 amThrasymachos
Lets see:
Rightwing (Currently tends towards the rear): Keep doing the same things which didn't work the last 20 times and deny there is actually a problem - while the problem gets worse.
Leftwing: Admit there is a problem as seek solutions to the problem, including phased withdrawal - or total withdrawal and cutting America's losses.
Rightwing: Attack terrorists by killing people that those same terrorists hate while alienating your allies.
Leftwing: Ask your allies for help in dividing your enemies and helping discredit terrorist leaders. (Bombing a religious nutter's house won't discredit the terrorist leader, know what will? Releasing photos of Osama in bed with three male cheerleaders with a bottle of whisky being put to creative use.)
Rightwing: Fire qualified translators for being gay.
Leftwing: Heck, target the gay guys for America's intellegence services, they have a lot of reasons to not like the religious nutters of the Middle East.
Rightwing: Fire generals who disagree with the administration.
Leftwing: Keep generals who are competent enough to think for themselves and not always agree with the administration.
Rightwing: Assume that soldiers are wussies who are more concerned with their pwecious feelings getting hurt then getting shot.
Leftwing: Assume that soldiers are more concerned with physical damage then emotional.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:16 amWhether you think it's a good thing or bad, CNN seems to have decided that Hillary is the Democratic candidate already. This morning they aired positive "iReport" clips on Hillary and negative ones on Obama. And they are now pumping up Richardson, not on his own merits, but from the standpoint of how Edwards is in freefall. Is this because CNN's corporate masters like Hillary or is it because they are "keeping their powder dry" to unleash once she's up against the Republican candidate post-nomination?
July 24th, 2007 at 8:26 amThe people at CNN are not capable of thinking any deeper than clothing and eye rolling.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:32 amRightwing: Attack terrorists by killing people √
Rightwing: Fire translators for being gay √
So far, so good, Rightwing! Keep up the good work!!!
July 24th, 2007 at 8:36 amThrasymachos
Okay, want me to rephrase it so that you can understand it?
Here we go:
The rightwing approach appears to be to attack the enemies of your enemies. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, so obviously, in a move to avenge 9/11, you invaded Iraq.
Oh, and your homophobia clearly has kept you from figuring out that all of those wire taps you guys have paid hard earned tax dollars for? Not worth much if noone can translate what those terrorists are saying.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:43 amckerst: I agree that CNN is looking more like a propagandist megaphone these days and the anchors appear more bird-brained than ever. Concern about their wardrobe and makeup seems to trump all else.
As to the debates, it was a great way to permit some less politically correct questions to be asked and all of the candidates did well in my opinion. Hillary seems to continue to amaze with her ability to articulate her thoughts and think on her feet. During one of her answers I couldn't help but visually imagine Bush standing there and contrasting what was coming forth from Hillary and what a disaster he would be answering the same question. How did we get this uneducated fool (bush) into the white house in the first place?
The candidates were having fun with the spontaneous format and are definitely presenting america with some great choices for a president in 08. That's more than I can say for the Republicscumbag candiates at this point.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:14 amI don't care who won the debate - I'm still voting for this guy.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:16 amGravel told it like it was, man. If anything else he's there to remind people what total liars are Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Biden, Richardson, and Dodd are.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:43 amYou may think CNN is becoming too conservative (for you), but they are probably responding to this:
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/americans_see_liberal_media_bias_on_tv_news
Whether you agree or not, most Americans understand that the media is (and has been for a long time) biased towards liberalism.
Cooper did a good job last night. The debate wasn't the usual love fest with softballs. A more objective press will actually help democrats in the long run. In the short run, however, it will be difficult as democrats are pressed to find answers for their failed policies.
July 24th, 2007 at 10:13 amI give Carol Costello props for not letting Blitzer slam Hillary for wearing that coat. She said Hillary looked hip and feminine. Blitzer isn't too fond of women, and Hillary in particular. He's become a pawn for Repug talking points and is not a serious news man. He's merely a news reader. He could make important news, but doesn't invite controversy. Ted Turner, 27 years ago, had just the opposite philosophy in mind when he started that news format. We're all the poorer for the cop out by CNN.
July 24th, 2007 at 10:18 amWhether you agree or not, most Americans understand that the media is (and has been for a long time) biased towards liberalism.
Comment by paul
That statement all by itself show just how clueless you are.
July 24th, 2007 at 10:30 amZooey. explain to me how it's clueless. I am saying that most Americans believe that media is biased towards liberalism and I post the poll results.
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/americans_see_liberal_media_bias_on_tv_news.
When TP wants me to understand that most Americans disapprove of the war in Iraq, they show me the poll numbers.
Try again. I know you can do better.
July 24th, 2007 at 10:37 ampaul
Americans see the press as being too liberal because...
The press tells Americans that it is too liberal.
That Americans, the same guys who voted for Bush twice despite the fact that his second term campaign consisted of "I am a screw-up, I couldn't take him in a debate, but, heh, heh Kerry looks like Lurch," think it is too conservative is meaningless.
What America needs is a press couldn't care less about whether it is "too liberal" and is more concerned with the very liberal media ideology of "The media must report the news."
As to liberal policy failures?
Right now you righties have had 6 years of ultimate power, what did you achieve? Record deficits, doubling America's debt, a stock market which is still recording 5 year highs, a major city in ruins, and 9/11, which is bizarrely treat as though it is some sort of victory for the party which held ultimate power over America for 9 months prior to it happening.
And you think the leftwing needs to take a long hard look at its policies? Pfft.
July 24th, 2007 at 10:43 amhttp://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/americans_see_liberal_media_bias_on_tv_news
July 24th, 2007 at 10:48 ammore "hard news" from the "most trusted name in news"
July 24th, 2007 at 10:48 amThe poll, dear Paul, is "Americans see liberal bias on TV news."
No kidding. With zipperheads playing the refs since Reagan rescinded the Fairness Doctrine, that's not the only lie the right wing propaganda machine has managed to get past the public. 80 percent of Americans believe in little green men from Mars also. That doesn't make it so.
Therefore you are, indeed, clueless. You're free to browse the content of Media Matters to enlighten yourself on the subject.
July 24th, 2007 at 10:56 amhttp://rasmussenreports.com/ public_content/ politics/ americans_see_liberal_media_bias_on_tv_news.
When TP wants me to understand that most Americans disapprove of the war in Iraq, they show me the poll numbers.
Try again. I know you can do better.
Comment by paul — July 24, 2007 @ 10:37 am
I'm syndicating this from the other thread because you're a moron.
Approval ratings are a different type of survey. When you ask repondents whether they personally approve or disapprove of a public policy or politician, that’s pure opinion. There’s nothing else that can prove or disprove that - it’s what they believe.
When you ask people if they think a network or “the media†is biased, they’re going to give their answer based on what they’ve heard or read. I doubt that most respondents have actually sat there watching various networks with a clipboard making ticks in a “liberal†and “conservative†column whenever a journalist made a statement with a partisan slant, or that they have done studies on the number of conservative or liberal think tanks cited. They’re giving an opinion-based answer on a quantifiable topic that they are very likely unqualified to answer.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:03 amHere's another link: you don't even have to look it up
http://www.fair.org/index.php
July 24th, 2007 at 11:03 amGood morning, Zooey!
I see the trolls are back out. I'm retired, I have time for this. Don't the trolls have day jobs?
July 24th, 2007 at 11:31 amCNN's thinking capacity is limited. Why watch such folly?
July 24th, 2007 at 11:47 amDoes anyone remember the dialogue between the 2 reporters at the parade in Goldie Hawn's hometown in the movie Protocol? It is almost identical to this, it was something like "Sunny is wearing some kind of "frock" I guess you'd call it and the vice president is wearing a suit".
July 24th, 2007 at 1:35 pmWhether you agree or not, most Americans understand that the media is (and has been for a long time) biased towards liberalism.
That is a falsity. The media is centrist. They are corporate. They play both sides of the fence. They will repeat whatever makes news ad nasueum. They like to create controversy. It sells. Sex sells, is that liberal? Or is that just capitalism? Why would free market Capitalists have to use sex? To Exploit you desires. An overweight 60 year old man smoking a cigar while reading the stocks doesn't sell. Rush calls himself a conservative but he exploited himself with a desire for drugs. He is no more a conservative than Paris Hilton.
Capitalism is exploitative. You want to smoke cigarettes and die of cancer, here ya go, smoke my brand like the sexy women do. You want to drink alcohol? Here drink my brand with the sexy woman on the billboard, don't blame me when your livers keels over. You want to see naked women? Here read Playboy or Penthouse, but don't blame me when you become a pervert. You want pornography? Here look at these women having sex,whack your brain out, take some viagra. Want a prostitute? Call the DC Madam, she'll be happy to exploit your desires. But don't blame her when you caught with a diaper on.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:06 pmThe media is not a government watchdog group. There is nothing that says that they have to digg up and report government corruption.
toasterhead and everyone else here. you tell me that: "80 percent of Americans believe in little green men from Mars also. That doesn’t make it so."
Do you think about what you're saying. Isn't it ironic that the almost 80% disapproval rating of the war or of the Presidents performance (which is touted here every day) equals the majority that you admit believe in little green men. If it doesn't make it so, you'd better tell everyone here at TP, so they can dismiss the polling.
You say that those who believe the liberal bias are naively accepting the lies being propagated by talk radio. Where do you think the 75% of people who disapprove of the war get their information. Have all these Americans seen the war in Iraq firsthand? Probably not. Maybe they get their information and formulate their opinions by consuming a diet of less than objective print and television media. But, you confidently promote that the same well informed public that overwelmingly disapproves of the war, is also naive enough to be conned into believing the right wing dogma of liberal bias in the media. My life would be much easier if I lived in the flippant, selective world you call home.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:47 pm80 percent of Americans believe in little green men from Mars also.
Comment by trippin — July 24, 2007 @ 10:56 am
Prove it! Just saving one of your fellow lefties from having to post that. ;)
July 24th, 2007 at 6:33 pmpaul
Here is the difference:
You Neocons phrase being anti-Iraq-war as being anti-America. That the majority of Americans are anti-Iraq-war simply neatly demonstrates that you guys on the right like talking out of your asses. The majority of Americans aren't anti-America.
The media? The media is a collection of large corporations which are not liberal in the least. Think about the huge stink you neocons throw whenever a liberal mentions the idea of a fairness doctrine: It would take away your propaganda vehicle and you know it.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:56 amRepublicans object to the fairness doctrine because it is an assault on free speech. Someone has to save you from yourselves (and communism). You're welcome.
P.S. Just because you oppose the war in Iraq doesn't make you anti-American; only naive and misinformed.
July 25th, 2007 at 11:28 ampaul
Naive as in, we don't believe everything members of government tell us when it has been proven that they are a bunch of liars?
Oh, sorry, I forgot you are a Neocon, for you, up is down and black is white.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:15 am