“Halliburton Co., the world’s second-largest oil services company, said on Monday that second-quarter profit from continuing operations rose 19 percent, topping Wall Street views, helped by new international contracts.”
We’ve reached the impeachment moment for Vice President Dick Cheney. We’ve pushed the cosponsor list for H. Res. 333 up to 14. Chairman John Conyers says that if we get 3 more he’ll begin the impeachment proceedings.
And many Congress Members must be recognizing that there is no other path available. Cheney and Bush have repeatedly refused to comply with subpoenas, ordered former staffers not to comply, and announced that the Justice Department will not enforce contempt citations from Congress. When a special prosecutor attempted to hold this administration accountable, Cheney’s chief of staff obstructed justice, and Cheney persuaded Bush to commute his sentence. There is no course left for Congress but Impeachment.
On Monday, July 23rd, the fifth anniversary of the meeting that produced the Downing Street Minutes, Cindy Sheehan, Ray McGovern, Rev. Lennox Yearwood, Ann Wright, Debra Sweet, Dave Lindorff, David Swanson, Jodie Evans, Medea Benjamin, Kevin Zeese, and Tina Richards will lead a march to Chairman Conyers office and not leave until he agrees to begin impeachment proceedings.
If you cannot be there, you can take two minutes on Monday and do two things: phone Chairman Conyers at 202-225-5126 and ask him to start the impeachment of Dick Cheney; and phone your own Congress Member at 202-224-3121 and ask them to immediately call Conyers’ office to express their support for impeachment. Your Congress Member might be one of the three needed, not just to keep impeachment activists out of jail but to keep this nation from devolving into dictatorship.
Isn’t the free market great? I know you libtards hate rich people and love to fight class war, but it’s obvious that no bid contracts to companies tied to the West Wing work for those particular companies. Americans should be proud that a great American company like Haliburton is doing so well.
What’s that, it’s not an American company anymore. Well if those damn Democrats weren’t constatnly trying to raise their taxes then they wouldn’t have left!!
Happy Guy – You must be thinking of CNN. You know, one of the outlets that will probably ignore this and its convenient connection to the Iraq war and a certain Vice President.
A second conviction has come down this week in a case of widespread corruption involving former employees and contractors from the Halliburton subsidiary KBR. Investigators claim that at least six more individuals are likely to face charges in a scheme that included bribing federal officials in order to inflate the price of cargo shipped to Iraq. The focus of scrutiny has been a $20 billion contract awarded to KBR at the start of the Iraq war. (NY Times)
When Nancy Pelosi said she was going to drain the swamp, you’d think she’d start with Halliburton first, since that company was public enemy #1 with the Moveon.org crowd. Why is this company still existing, much less thriving?
Your statement is the height of idiocy and demonstrates your ignorance and the ignorance of the other trolls here. There is absolutely no place in a “free market” for a “no-bid contract.” The two are mutually exclusively. That means, for you illiterates that unlike love and marriage you can’t have one with the other. Halliburton could not and would not exist in a free market. Bushco should not and could exist in a true democracy. It is time this Country returned to both.
When Nancy Pelosi said she was going to drain the swamp, you’d think she’d start with Halliburton first, since that company was public enemy #1 with the Moveon.org crowd. Why is this company still existing, much less thriving?
Comment by dennis — July 23, 2007 @ 11:58 am To Drain the Swamp,one must first destroy the power that created the swamp.
you know, the megamillion dollar mansion sitting far up the hill and away from the swamp?
So like…I read digg too with that article that claimed conyars would do it with 3 more but that article seems very…opinion based. Is there anything actually on record of him saying something like this? Don’t get me wrong…it would be great but I don’t see anything in the real news spectrum about this. Thanks!
It’s too bad that Haliburton isn’t patriotic. If they were, they would not be making obscene profits off this war. But, then, that was the purpose of the war, wasn’t it? The purpose was to make obscene profits for FOB’s off no-bid contracts and then to steal Iraq’s oil. Personally, I think that Haliburton and those who work for them are all traitors to this once great nation.
Hmmmm. Between 2004 and 2005, Cheney’s stock options actually rose 3,281 percent. Cheney continues to hold 433,333 Halliburton stock options. Perhaps this increase isn’t that big of a leap.
Everyone already knows how well they are doing off this war. No surprise there.
I guess Cheney has more than made up to the company (Halliburton) now for his decision to buy Dresser Industries that resulted into sending Halliburton into declaring bankruptcy (due to the asbestos liabilites it brought along with it). http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64535-2005Jan10.html
No wonder Cheney fought so hard after he became vice president to force through the legislation to limit asbestos liability, and fought against legislation introduced by Paul Wellstone and Patty Murray to keep it from being passed (that would have made asbestos illegal and helped those suffering from health problems or families of those who died due to asbestos exposure). No wonder Halliburton got all those no-bid contracts. No wonder..
This is all so very despicable. Cheney is a poor excuse for a human being.
And lest we forget, Halliburton’s refused to deliver supplies in some cases, putting soldiers at risk of running out of crucially-needed supplies, at critical times.
20 ¶ And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.
23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. 24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/luke_6.html
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/luke_16.html
20 ¶ And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.
23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/luke_6.html
Comment by GoTFreeDUMB?
What’s your point? Are you suggesting that it is evil to be rich?
Jesus himself did suggest, that it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter heaven. So no I don’t think I need to suggest that it is evil to be rich.
Now is this profit driven by their no-bid work in Iraq or their no-bid work in Serbia? What was Clinton thinking when he gave Halliburton a contract in the Balkans?
NOW! this profit IS driven by their no-bid work in Iraq .
Serbia is the past. not present.
you cant change the past but you can help change the future.
Lets ask the recipients of aid from Bill Gate’s charity organization if they hate Bill for becoming rich and having the subsequent resources to create said charity.
There is no honor in being poor, youre just poor. The libs here who are creating such a frenzy about the ‘rich’ are those who havent the ability or the energy to become more than the jealous freeloaders they are.
“What’s your point? Are you suggesting that it is evil to be rich?â€
Comment by 20wordsorless — July 23, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Well, according to the Bible, Jesus seemed to think so.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
I think you’re missing some pieces of the puzzle. If Jesus were truly condemning all rich people, then he would have had to have condemned Abraham and Solomon as well.
NOW! this profit IS driven by their no-bid work in Iraq .
Serbia is the past. not present.
you cant change the past but you can help change the future.
As compared to the profit driven by their no-bid work in Iraq? I presume you were as equally hysterical when a democrat awarded overseas bids to Halliburton and they made money then?
Just want to test the waters of the Hypocrite River; you had the chance to “change the future” ten years ago, did you take the chance or pass on it?
Comment by Mucho Gusto — July 23, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Enough with the “Clinton did it too” line – Clinton wasn’t perfect, none of us think so, he did some stupid things that none of us condone, so ENOUGH!
And not every person is born a genius who can invent something that will earn him millions/billions. Most of us work very hard in regular jobs that don’t pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, let alone millions. At least Bill Gates isn’t hoarding his huge fortune to leave to his children. He’s pretty much doing what Jesus taught.
Comment by 20wordsorless — July 23, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
Hey, I’m an atheist, not a bible scholar. Maybe Jesus didn’t think that Abraham and Solomon were pertinent to his teachings? Or maybe they weren’t really as wealthy as you’re suggesting? I don’t know, I’ll leave it up to people more familiar with the Old Testament than I am to prove or refute this point.
It’s only evil to be rich when you make those riches based on taking advantage of a war, governmental contacts and connections, and shortchanging troops you’re tasked by contract to help build infrastructure and supply.
In other words, yes, it can be evil to be rich when you build it callously on human lives just to raise profits.
George Soros bought a hefty chuck of Halliburton stock last year.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
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He’s a smart guy. He knew that with Halliburton based in Dubai, not having the expenses of an American-based company, and with no competition whatsoever and HUGE government contracts given to them, they would be able to make a profit.
#63… Yeah, so? I think Soros just wants to be able to attend and speak at Halliburton’s annual meeting without being thrown out. And he can make a tidy profit on the side to help fund the vast left-wing conspiracy.
Halliburton’s stock is going to continue to rise. They don’t have to pay taxes, or adhere to American labor laws. Also, they have an effective monopoly. It is easy to turn large profits when you have no competition, and being that the American government will not allow them to have competition (see “no-bid contracts”), their financial future is set.
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Zooey — why i do declare, you must be FOR republicans?
Are ALSO FOR THE WAR?
afterall, we all know this war is for free CAPITALISTS ONLY!
So why do you pretend to be Democrat?
I’m willing to overlook the hypocrisy of the liberal elite. If Al Gore and his Hollywood cronies want to fly around on gas-guzzling, atmosphere-polluting private jets while railing against global climate change, I’m willing to overlook it.
But the latest move by globe trotting, hyper-liberal billionaire George Soros borders on being too much. According to papers filed with the SEC, in the fourth quarter of 2006 Soros purchased nearly 2 million shares of … hold your breath … Halliburton. The Halliburton shares reportedly went for an average purchase price of $31.30 a share. That puts Soros’ total investment in Halliburton at around $62.6 million, or about 2 percent of his total portfolio.
Soros, of course, is the dean of Democratic money giving. And Halliburton, of course, is the company that embodies everything the Democrats see as evil. Dick Cheney is its former chief, for goodness’ sake. But Soros is also a man of contradictions. He supported campaign finance reform for years, only to declare that defeating President George W. Bush was the “central focus” of his life. To prove it, he sunk $24 million of his own “soft” money into the 2004 campaign, helping make that election one of the most divisive in modern history.
Soros’ position in Halliburton is reported to be his first, which means he bought it with a full understanding of Halliburton’s reputation. Soros may not see a problem with profiting from a company that has been accused of everything from sweatheart deals to cooking the books to serving U.S. troops lousy food in Iraq. The real question, however, is whether MoveOn.org, the Center for American Progress, and other organizations that have benefitted from Soros’ charity will see a problem with accepting money earned off Halliburton shares?
Fan of the Man has done his part by copying and pasting his copy points IN BOLD on every topic on the board today. Have you done your part and followed his directions?
More BLOOD MONEY for Dickus Cheneyus since he has stock in Halliburton, so anytime Halliburton’s stock goes up then he makes millions more blood-soaked dollars, and more of our troops die. What a crooked, crooked, creepy, creepy person.
This’ll make 2.2 lbs of shitonastick real happy.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 amImagine that…..
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 amQuoting Gomer Pyle, “surprise, surprise, surprise”
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 amCall Congress Today for Impeachment
We’ve reached the impeachment moment for Vice President Dick Cheney. We’ve pushed the cosponsor list for H. Res. 333 up to 14. Chairman John Conyers says that if we get 3 more he’ll begin the impeachment proceedings.
And many Congress Members must be recognizing that there is no other path available. Cheney and Bush have repeatedly refused to comply with subpoenas, ordered former staffers not to comply, and announced that the Justice Department will not enforce contempt citations from Congress. When a special prosecutor attempted to hold this administration accountable, Cheney’s chief of staff obstructed justice, and Cheney persuaded Bush to commute his sentence. There is no course left for Congress but Impeachment.
On Monday, July 23rd, the fifth anniversary of the meeting that produced the Downing Street Minutes, Cindy Sheehan, Ray McGovern, Rev. Lennox Yearwood, Ann Wright, Debra Sweet, Dave Lindorff, David Swanson, Jodie Evans, Medea Benjamin, Kevin Zeese, and Tina Richards will lead a march to Chairman Conyers office and not leave until he agrees to begin impeachment proceedings.
If you cannot be there, you can take two minutes on Monday and do two things: phone Chairman Conyers at 202-225-5126 and ask him to start the impeachment of Dick Cheney; and phone your own Congress Member at 202-224-3121 and ask them to immediately call Conyers’ office to express their support for impeachment. Your Congress Member might be one of the three needed, not just to keep impeachment activists out of jail but to keep this nation from devolving into dictatorship.
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July 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 amWow, a company made money. Where is the story? Why are you not doing 3 stories a day on Paris Hilton like you use to?
ROTFL
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 amWar is hell, unless you happen to be a war profiteering company like Haliburton.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:51 amIsn’t the free market great? I know you libtards hate rich people and love to fight class war, but it’s obvious that no bid contracts to companies tied to the West Wing work for those particular companies. Americans should be proud that a great American company like Haliburton is doing so well.
What’s that, it’s not an American company anymore. Well if those damn Democrats weren’t constatnly trying to raise their taxes then they wouldn’t have left!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 amWow! I’m calling my Merrill Lynch Broker.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:53 amHappy Guy – You must be thinking of CNN. You know, one of the outlets that will probably ignore this and its convenient connection to the Iraq war and a certain Vice President.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:55 amThe only companies that are doing well are those with overseas components. The domestic economy sucks. Even Bernanke sais so.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 amTPMmuckraker has this:
A second conviction has come down this week in a case of widespread corruption involving former employees and contractors from the Halliburton subsidiary KBR. Investigators claim that at least six more individuals are likely to face charges in a scheme that included bribing federal officials in order to inflate the price of cargo shipped to Iraq. The focus of scrutiny has been a $20 billion contract awarded to KBR at the start of the Iraq war. (NY Times)
[http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003743.php]
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 amIf Halliburton had NOT made money despite all the help they have received from the White House, THAT would have been news!
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 amWhen Nancy Pelosi said she was going to drain the swamp, you’d think she’d start with Halliburton first, since that company was public enemy #1 with the Moveon.org crowd. Why is this company still existing, much less thriving?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 am#7
Your statement is the height of idiocy and demonstrates your ignorance and the ignorance of the other trolls here. There is absolutely no place in a “free market” for a “no-bid contract.” The two are mutually exclusively. That means, for you illiterates that unlike love and marriage you can’t have one with the other. Halliburton could not and would not exist in a free market. Bushco should not and could exist in a true democracy. It is time this Country returned to both.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:04 pmGeorge Soros must be really happy since he owns stocks
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:05 pm#
When Nancy Pelosi said she was going to drain the swamp, you’d think she’d start with Halliburton first, since that company was public enemy #1 with the Moveon.org crowd. Why is this company still existing, much less thriving?
Comment by dennis — July 23, 2007 @ 11:58 am
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:06 pmTo Drain the Swamp,one must first destroy the power that created the swamp.
you know, the megamillion dollar mansion sitting far up the hill and away from the swamp?
any major econ dude will tell you it sounds like a classic ‘colonoscopy bump.’
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:06 pmWe call that place“SNOB HILL”
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:07 pm
God calls that place“STIFFNECKS”
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:08 pm
George Soros must be really happy since he owns stocks
Comment by crimedog
I own stocks as well. Maybe you could post some proof that Soros or I own Halliburton stock?
If not, shut up.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 pmWow. Dick Cheney is getting rich off a war the he helped to start. Seems unethical, doesn’t it?
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:10 pmComment by Fan_of_Man — July 23, 2007
So like…I read digg too with that article that claimed conyars would do it with 3 more but that article seems very…opinion based. Is there anything actually on record of him saying something like this? Don’t get me wrong…it would be great but I don’t see anything in the real news spectrum about this. Thanks!
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:11 pmPl;ease tell me That was Not Zooey. but a namejacker
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:11 pm#22, dunno but pressure is pressure. as of now, we all are responsible for the state of affairs today.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:15 pmGeorge Soros owns stocks? Who’d have quessed. And the point is….
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:16 pm“…helped by new international contracts.” Ok, raise your hand, if like me, you read that and thought the last word said “conflicts.”
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm…The two are mutually exclusively. That means, for you illiterates…
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
The pot calling the kettle black…
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:17 pmHow dare they make a profit.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:17 pmPl;ease tell me That was Not Zooey. but a namejacker
Comment by GoTFreeDUMB?
That was me. Is there a problem?
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:18 pmIt’s too bad that Haliburton isn’t patriotic. If they were, they would not be making obscene profits off this war. But, then, that was the purpose of the war, wasn’t it? The purpose was to make obscene profits for FOB’s off no-bid contracts and then to steal Iraq’s oil. Personally, I think that Haliburton and those who work for them are all traitors to this once great nation.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:18 pmThe pot calling the kettle black…
Comment by 20wordsorless
Congratulations. Your name finally fits…
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:19 pmHow dare they make a profit off of no-bid contracts and ripping off the American taxpayers? To me that’s a traitor to this nation.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:20 pmNow, why was it that the U.S. invaded Iraq again ?
Because, well, I thought we were still going with the whole WMD thing.
Impeach already.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:20 pmHmmmm. Between 2004 and 2005, Cheney’s stock options actually rose 3,281 percent. Cheney continues to hold 433,333 Halliburton stock options. Perhaps this increase isn’t that big of a leap.
Everyone already knows how well they are doing off this war. No surprise there.
I guess Cheney has more than made up to the company (Halliburton) now for his decision to buy Dresser Industries that resulted into sending Halliburton into declaring bankruptcy (due to the asbestos liabilites it brought along with it).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64535-2005Jan10.html
No wonder Cheney fought so hard after he became vice president to force through the legislation to limit asbestos liability, and fought against legislation introduced by Paul Wellstone and Patty Murray to keep it from being passed (that would have made asbestos illegal and helped those suffering from health problems or families of those who died due to asbestos exposure). No wonder Halliburton got all those no-bid contracts. No wonder..
This is all so very despicable. Cheney is a poor excuse for a human being.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:21 pmAnd lest we forget, Halliburton’s refused to deliver supplies in some cases, putting soldiers at risk of running out of crucially-needed supplies, at critical times.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:22 pmCongratulations. Your name finally fits…
Comment by barfly
Thanks for noticing… that means so much to me…
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:26 pmRich SNOBS! Stiffnecks!
but you will pay your debts to Satan, Hell.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:31 pm
20 ¶ And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.
23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/luke_6.html
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/luke_16.html
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:36 pm
20 ¶ And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.
23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/luke_6.html
Comment by GoTFreeDUMB?
What’s your point? Are you suggesting that it is evil to be rich?
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:39 pm20wordsormore.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:41 pmyes.
Jesus himself did suggest, that it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter heaven. So no I don’t think I need to suggest that it is evil to be rich.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:41 pm“What’s your point? Are you suggesting that it is evil to be rich?”
Comment by 20wordsorless — July 23, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Well, according to the Bible, Jesus seemed to think so.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:41 pmIAW God,Jesus, Bible.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:42 pmNow is this profit driven by their no-bid work in Iraq or their no-bid work in Serbia? What was Clinton thinking when he gave Halliburton a contract in the Balkans?
No war for Amsfelder wine!
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:43 pmGood point Krazny — Jesus himself did suggest.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:44 pmDefine “rich”? As in mind/spirit/friendships or as in overly consumptive and self serving.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:44 pmIsn’t there something about a Camel and the eye of a needle??
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:45 pmAnd I don’t think the Camel was a cigarette
NOW! this profit IS driven by their no-bid work in Iraq .
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:46 pmSerbia is the past. not present.
you cant change the past but you can help change the future.
Lets ask the recipients of aid from Bill Gate’s charity organization if they hate Bill for becoming rich and having the subsequent resources to create said charity.
There is no honor in being poor, youre just poor. The libs here who are creating such a frenzy about the ‘rich’ are those who havent the ability or the energy to become more than the jealous freeloaders they are.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm20wordsormore.
yes.
Comment by GoTFreeDUMB
So… what do you think of the Democrat presidential candidates?
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:47 pmDefine “rich� As in mind/spirit/friendships AND as in overly consumptive and self serving.
Comment by dbadass —
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:48 pmYou defined it pretty well yourself.
Now all we need to do is define “overly consumptive”.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:49 pm“What’s your point? Are you suggesting that it is evil to be rich?â€
Comment by 20wordsorless — July 23, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Well, according to the Bible, Jesus seemed to think so.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
I think you’re missing some pieces of the puzzle. If Jesus were truly condemning all rich people, then he would have had to have condemned Abraham and Solomon as well.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:51 pmNOW! this profit IS driven by their no-bid work in Iraq .
Serbia is the past. not present.
you cant change the past but you can help change the future.
As compared to the profit driven by their no-bid work in Iraq? I presume you were as equally hysterical when a democrat awarded overseas bids to Halliburton and they made money then?
Just want to test the waters of the Hypocrite River; you had the chance to “change the future” ten years ago, did you take the chance or pass on it?
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:52 pmSo… what do you think of the Democrat presidential candidates?
Comment by 20wordsorless — July 23, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
That the proper expression is Democratic presidential candidates!
If you’ve got only 20wordsorlaees in your vocabulary, you may as well get them right.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:52 pmComment by Mucho Gusto — July 23, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Enough with the “Clinton did it too” line – Clinton wasn’t perfect, none of us think so, he did some stupid things that none of us condone, so ENOUGH!
And not every person is born a genius who can invent something that will earn him millions/billions. Most of us work very hard in regular jobs that don’t pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, let alone millions. At least Bill Gates isn’t hoarding his huge fortune to leave to his children. He’s pretty much doing what Jesus taught.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:52 pmits 21 now, I invented 20wordsorlaees…
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:53 pmRoss Perot
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:54 pmAt least Bill Gates isn’t hoarding his huge fortune to leave to his children. He’s pretty much doing what Jesus taught.
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:56 pmJane, not to be sarcastic but
WHO ARE the recipients of aid from Bill Gate’s charity organization?
If you’ve got only 20wordsorlaees in your vocabulary, you may as well get them right.
Comment by doro
You should learn how to spell before you start lecturing me about vocabulary.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:56 pmComment by 20wordsorless — July 23, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
Hey, I’m an atheist, not a bible scholar. Maybe Jesus didn’t think that Abraham and Solomon were pertinent to his teachings? Or maybe they weren’t really as wealthy as you’re suggesting? I don’t know, I’ll leave it up to people more familiar with the Old Testament than I am to prove or refute this point.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:57 pm#58 see #57
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:57 pm“Halliburton profits jump”
So what?
What is this a blog about Wall Street?
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:59 pmIt’s only evil to be rich when you make those riches based on taking advantage of a war, governmental contacts and connections, and shortchanging troops you’re tasked by contract to help build infrastructure and supply.
In other words, yes, it can be evil to be rich when you build it callously on human lives just to raise profits.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:05 pmGeorge Soros bought a hefty chuck of Halliburton stock last year.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:05 pm#
George Soros bought a hefty chuck of Halliburton stock last year.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
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He’s a smart guy. He knew that with Halliburton based in Dubai, not having the expenses of an American-based company, and with no competition whatsoever and HUGE government contracts given to them, they would be able to make a profit.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:10 pm#63… Yeah, so? I think Soros just wants to be able to attend and speak at Halliburton’s annual meeting without being thrown out. And he can make a tidy profit on the side to help fund the vast left-wing conspiracy.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:12 pmHalliburton’s stock is going to continue to rise. They don’t have to pay taxes, or adhere to American labor laws. Also, they have an effective monopoly. It is easy to turn large profits when you have no competition, and being that the American government will not allow them to have competition (see “no-bid contracts”), their financial future is set.
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=HAL
If you take a look at their trend, they were falling miserably preceeding 9/11, but have had major financial successes since then.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:17 pmYes!!!!!!!! My evil plan is working.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pmOn a level playing field Haliburton would struggle to turn a profit on a hotdog stand.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:32 pmProfits of theft.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:34 pmRich SNOBS! Stiffnecks!
but you will pay your debts to Satan, Hell.
Comment by GoTFreeDUMB? — July 23, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
I see. There is a problem — and it’s all in your head.
Just because someone invests their money, does not mean they are rich, halfwit.
Get over it.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:39 pmIMPEACH NOW IMPEACH NOW IMPEACH NOW IMPEACH NOW
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Zooey — why i do declare, you must be FOR republicans?
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:09 pmAre ALSO FOR THE WAR?
afterall, we all know this war is for free CAPITALISTS ONLY!
So why do you pretend to be Democrat?
Did I say you was Rich?
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:10 pmNo, I did Not.
Quilt Complex is a serious disorder.
Get Over IT!
Get Over IT! nitwit. LoL
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmRepublican Teddy Roosevelt referred to war profiteering as “treason.”
Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower warned that war profiteering could ruin our country.
Two of the three greatest Republicans in history. Chances that either one of them would appeal to today’s republicans: zero.
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pmRepublican Dwight D. Eisenhower warned that war profiteering could ruin our country.
war profiteering ruined This country.
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmFreeDumb Ruined The World.
FreeDUMB SPOILED The WORLD.
Ret.SFC FreeDUMB.
shut up Zooey
War Profiteer Soros
by FP
I’m willing to overlook the hypocrisy of the liberal elite. If Al Gore and his Hollywood cronies want to fly around on gas-guzzling, atmosphere-polluting private jets while railing against global climate change, I’m willing to overlook it.
But the latest move by globe trotting, hyper-liberal billionaire George Soros borders on being too much. According to papers filed with the SEC, in the fourth quarter of 2006 Soros purchased nearly 2 million shares of … hold your breath … Halliburton. The Halliburton shares reportedly went for an average purchase price of $31.30 a share. That puts Soros’ total investment in Halliburton at around $62.6 million, or about 2 percent of his total portfolio.
Soros, of course, is the dean of Democratic money giving. And Halliburton, of course, is the company that embodies everything the Democrats see as evil. Dick Cheney is its former chief, for goodness’ sake. But Soros is also a man of contradictions. He supported campaign finance reform for years, only to declare that defeating President George W. Bush was the “central focus” of his life. To prove it, he sunk $24 million of his own “soft” money into the 2004 campaign, helping make that election one of the most divisive in modern history.
Soros’ position in Halliburton is reported to be his first, which means he bought it with a full understanding of Halliburton’s reputation. Soros may not see a problem with profiting from a company that has been accused of everything from sweatheart deals to cooking the books to serving U.S. troops lousy food in Iraq. The real question, however, is whether MoveOn.org, the Center for American Progress, and other organizations that have benefitted from Soros’ charity will see a problem with accepting money earned off Halliburton shares?
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1029160/000092153007000147/form_13f-soros.txt
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 pmGeorge Soros the worst war profiteer in the world!!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmHey crimedog, stop posting facts. This is a liberal website so your not supore to use logic or facts.
Anyway, didn’t Zooey tell you to shut up in post #20? That’s a lib for you.
ROTFL
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:51 pmsorry about the facts liberals dont like dealing with facts.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pmi was told to shut up you meanie
crimedog,
Thanks for backing up your allegation.
You’re not even happy when you’re right, are you?
That’s an authoritarian con for you.
Whine, whine, whine….
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:15 pmNever try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmmore liberal wisdom—-
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:24 pmAnd how much money did Haliburton take with them to their new headquarters safely out of range of the US of A and any bothersome auditors ?
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:17 pmFan of the Man has done his part by copying and pasting his copy points IN BOLD on every topic on the board today. Have you done your part and followed his directions?
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:39 pmAs I blogged about earlier, HAL is a well-run company.
Many big-name liberals own stock (or have owned stock) in HAL over the year.
And why shouldn’t they? If a company is ambitious and beating estimates, investors will be rewarded.
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:34 pmThe hypocrisy of the left is saying money is evil while swimming in it.
The hypocrisy of the right is to claim you love your wife, projecting some moral high ground, while stoinking a prostitute
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:41 pmMore BLOOD MONEY for Dickus Cheneyus since he has stock in Halliburton, so anytime Halliburton’s stock goes up then he makes millions more blood-soaked dollars, and more of our troops die. What a crooked, crooked, creepy, creepy person.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:49 pm