A coalition of injured Iraq war veterans filed a class action law suit charging outgoing Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson “of breaking the law by denying them disability pay and mental health treatment.” The lawsuit asks federal court to “order the VA to make immediate improvements that would speed disability payments, ensure fairness in awards and provide more complete access to mental health care.”
Countdown to how long it takes for one of Bush’s pet judges to throw the lawsuit out.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:06 pmWhy do injured Iraq War vets hate America?
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:06 pmCase dismissed! (5-4)
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:06 pmI think all of you “truthers” should file a class action against Bush demanding “more complete access to mental health care .Afterall, it’s Bush’s fault that you’re all crazy.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:08 pmI hope this is the first of many class action suits.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:08 pmThey reap what they sow.
Ever since Bush created the VA on the day he first took presidential office, he has been absent on watching over his creation.
When in doubt, blame Bush.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmSee the Bush Regime hates soldiers. Dubya just uses them as cannon fodder, so he steal Iraq’s OIL reserves.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmIf they’re good men, get ‘em some new legs, arms, brains, whatever they need. Problem solved. (sarcasm off)
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 pmwhy do the troops hate the troops so much!
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 pmIn fact we dont even need congressional committees or appointees or anyone since the POTUS should be able to manage the smallest detail of every government organization.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 pm…so he CAN steal Iraq’s OIL …
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 pm#4..But you know it don’t come easy.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pmThis administration is a fu(king disgrace!
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pmso he steal Iraq’s OIL reserves.
You would think the price would have gone down by now, dontcha?
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:13 pm#14 only if you’re an inbred hillbilly moron.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pmIraq is producing significantly less than pre-war output.
Geez. send in some competent trolls???
The libs have now renamed the VA to the Bush Veterans Affairs Department.
Where is Murtha when you need him, I guess he stopped his tours of the military hospitals now that the spotlight is on other dems.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pmYou come back from war with the disabled veterans that you have. Not the disabled veterans that you want.
Give em hell Vets.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmIraq is producing significantly less than pre-war output.
Geez. send in some competent trolls???
And all we had to do was placate a dictator to have that oil. Caring libs my asss.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmI only lower oil prices before elections.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmThese injured veterans are not serious and have some never attacking our Dear Leader in war time.
-Bloody Bill Kristhole
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmHouse Committee to Vote on Contempt Charges
Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, July 23, 2007
The House Judiciary Committee will vote Wednesday on whether to hold current and former White House officials in contempt of Congress, signaling that Democratic lawmakers intend to press toward a constitutional showdown with the Bush administration over last year’s firings of nine U.S. attorneys.
Today’s announcement by Judiciary Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) puts House Democrats on a legal collision course with the White House, which said last week that it would not allow the Justice Department to pursue contempt charges brought by Congress.
…Conyers said the decision to move forward with contempt proceedings was made reluctantly, but asserted that the committee had few options in the face of the refusals by the White House to comply with committee subpoenas.
“It is still my hope that they will reconsider this hard-line position, and cooperate with our investigation so that we can get to the bottom of this matter,” Conyers said.
***More stalling and delaying by Conyers. The Contempt charge should’ve been made TODAY. And only INHERENT CONTEMPT is acceptable. Criminal Contempt is a brick wall. We need to flood Conyers with calls until his phones shut down and demand INHERENT CONTEMPT. 1-202-225-5126.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmJingo sez:
Don’t flatter yourself, Jingo.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmAnd join me now in welcoming TP’s newest troll identity, “Mucho Gusto”!
Mucho’s hobbies include building straw men and taking logical statements to illogical extremes. He enjoys ridiculing leftist positions that no one actually holds, and he has had several years of secondary education.
He lists his heroes as Scooter Libby, Bob Novak and George W. Bush.
Welcome, Mucho! Don’t forget to pick up your free “I trolled for Dubya at ThinkProgress” baseball cap.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmHere comes the first of the class action suits against the Bush Administration! Just wait until the families of our fallen heroes get together to bring suite for wrongful death claims.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:18 pmLet the “class action suits” begin! Jericho, jericho…and the walls came a-tumblin’ down….
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmCall Congress Today for Impeachment
We’ve reached the impeachment moment for Vice President Dick Cheney. We’ve pushed the cosponsor list for H. Res. 333 up to 14. Chairman John Conyers says that if we get 3 more he’ll begin the impeachment proceedings.
And many Congress Members must be recognizing that there is no other path available. Cheney and Bush have repeatedly refused to comply with subpoenas, ordered former staffers not to comply, and announced that the Justice Department will not enforce contempt citations from Congress. When a special prosecutor attempted to hold this administration accountable, Cheney’s chief of staff obstructed justice, and Cheney persuaded Bush to commute his sentence. There is no course left for Congress but Impeachment.
On Monday, July 23rd, the fifth anniversary of the meeting that produced the Downing Street Minutes, Cindy Sheehan, Ray McGovern, Rev. Lennox Yearwood, Ann Wright, Debra Sweet, Dave Lindorff, David Swanson, Jodie Evans, Medea Benjamin, Kevin Zeese, and Tina Richards will lead a march to Chairman Conyers office and not leave until he agrees to begin impeachment proceedings.
If you cannot be there, you can take two minutes on Monday and do two things: phone Chairman Conyers at 202-225-5126 and ask him to start the impeachment of Dick Cheney; and phone your own Congress Member at 202-224-3121 and ask them to immediately call Conyers’ office to express their support for impeachment. Your Congress Member might be one of the three needed, not just to keep impeachment activists out of jail but to keep this nation from devolving into dictatorship.
Also email your Representatives:
http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/73
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July 23rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmMucho Gusto: ¿Hable español? Que te chingas, Juan Dominguez.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:20 pm#
And all we had to do was placate a dictator to have that oil. Caring libs my asss.
Comment by Mucho Gusto — July 23, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
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So you’re all for attacking Saudi Arabia? After all, we are placating a dictator for his oil.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:25 pmWay to support the troops, bloodthirsty trolls.
Don’t ever again accuse us of not supporting the troops.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:26 pm***More stalling and delaying by Conyers. The Contempt charge should’ve been made TODAY. And only INHERENT CONTEMPT is acceptable. Criminal Contempt is a brick wall. We need to flood Conyers with calls until his phones shut down and demand INHERENT CONTEMPT. 1-202-225-5126.
Comment by Larry from C — July 23, 2007 @ 3:17 p
Larry: I simply don’t “get” it. What’s going on with Conyers anyway? I guess the Repukes have so much on these guys from their illegal wiretapping that it’s essential “blackmail” at this point. Otherwise, it makes absolutely no sense at all.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:26 pmIf you cannot be there, you can take two minutes on Monday and do two things: phone Chairman Conyers at 202-225-5126 and ask him to start the impeachment of Dick Cheney; and phone your own Congress Member at 202-224-3121 and ask them to immediately call Conyers’ office to express their support for impeachment. Your Congress Member might be one of the three needed, not just to keep impeachment activists out of jail but to keep this nation from devolving into dictatorship.
Also email your Representatives:
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Comment by Fan_of_Man — July 23, 2007 @ 3:1
Fan of Man: I’m dialing John Conyers right now and sending this SOS out to everyone I know. Thanks!
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pmFan of Man: The url above for democrats.com(Unity) is so overloaded that it’s getting bogged down. I guess the word is out!
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmveritas, or they have a cheap ass server…?!
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:44 pmIn fact we dont even need congressional committees or appointees or anyone since the POTUS should be able to manage the smallest detail of every government organization.
Comment by Mucho Gusto — July 23, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
One of the things I learned when I served in the U.S. Navy (and I’m sure this applies to ALL of our armed forces) is that when you are the captain of the ship, you are responsible for everything that happens on that ship. Because it’s not humanly possible for you to micromanage all activities, it’s important that you surround himself with lieutenants you can trust and count on. If your ship runs aground at 0300 while you are asleep, you are still responsible. For the skipper to say “that wasn’t my job” is NO excuse — and this is drilled into every recruit.
Maybe if Bush had attended more of his reserve drills, he would know this.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:44 pmDon’t ever again accuse us of not supporting the troops.
Comment by Zooey
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You don’t support the troops.
…and you’re an idiot.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:47 pmReserve drills?
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:48 pmHe didn’t no stinkin reserve drills!
He was too busy politikin in Alabama to actually serve his duty time.
Geezbo Horatio Kreist!
I support the troops. I have a ribbon on my Hummer. So there.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:49 pmI guess Rinko’s idea of supporting the troops is to make damn sure they stay out there in the 120 degree heat with targets on their backs.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:49 pm“Ever since Bush created the VA on the day he first took presidential office, he has been absent on watching over his creation.
When in doubt, blame Bush.”
Yes, I will blame Bush. His Administration was responsible for the horrible living conditions at Walter Reed, which happened, no coincidence here, after he privatized the facilities management. His administration is the administration that has told the VA to not award disability payments for PTSD by claiming that the soldier had a personality disorder before he enlisted. If that’s true, then why did the military let him in in the first place. It is his administration that has underfunded the VA ever since he took office.
Yes, this is the administration that supports our troops. They support our troops as long as they are in Iraq getting killed or maimed, but once they come home, to hell with them.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:51 pmAfterall, it’s Bush’s fault that you’re all crazy.
Comment by Ringo
Don’t worry… we’ll make sure there’s a slot on the list for you too.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:53 pmJuly 23rd, 2007 at 3:54 pm
I support the troops. I have a ribbon on my Hummer. So there.
Comment by Ringo
If this isn’t meant to be a joke, it says more about you that you’ll ever realize.
If this is meant to be a joke, it says more about you than you’ll ever realize.
(Pssst… Mr P says to meet him at the poolhouse this 6pm…)
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:54 pmRingo obviously underestimates the defense capability of the left against his arguments. He doesn’t realize that we, too have “I’m Rubber, You’re Glue” technology and so we can make his “hate the troops” charge stick to HIM! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(That was supposed to be an evil laugh, BTW)
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:55 pmThis has as much merit as Valarie Plame’s civil suit.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:56 pmThis has as much merit as Valarie Plame’s civil suit.
Comment by The Eck — July 23, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
I thought you were on my side.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:58 pmYes, this is the administration that supports our troops. They support our troops as long as they are in Iraq getting killed or maimed, but once they come home, to hell with them.
Comment by bilbobaggins — July 23, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
No, I believe they don’t even support our troops when they are actually fighting. If they did, they would equip them properly and give them the respite they need between deployments.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:58 pmComment by Ringo — July 23, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
Aaagghhh! A Ringo ate my baby!
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:05 pmYou don’t support the troops.
…and you’re an idiot.
Comment by Ringo — July 23, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
Ouch. The dull wit of a dingleberry. How will I recover….?
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:06 pm“Ouch. The dull wit of a dingleberry. How will I recover….?”
Comment by Zooey — July 23, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
Eww, you got dingleberry slime on you–better wash it off quick!
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:08 pmI love your comment, Jane. Classic!
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:12 pmIf this is meant to be a joke, it says more about you than you’ll ever realize.
(Pssst… Mr P says to meet him at the poolhouse this 6pm…)
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
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I didn’t make the comment. It seems some one is using my name.
Not only do I not own a Hummer, I actually drive a Ford Escape Hybrid.
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:12 pmAnybody care to speculate how much taxes will have to go up to pay for these damaged vets.
Betcha President C–minus-minus of Ivy-League business forgot to include that in his public equation.
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:13 pmComment by Zooey — July 23, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Which one? Personally, I liked the “ate my baby” one! It’s just as ridiculous as this particular troll’s comments. (I hate to call it by it’s chosen handle, as I’m a huge Beatles fan. On the other hand, I like dingos, too.) :D
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:15 pmWhich one? Personally, I liked the “ate my baby†one! It’s just as ridiculous as this particular troll’s comments. (I hate to call it by it’s chosen handle, as I’m a huge Beatles fan. On the other hand, I like dingos, too.) :D
Comment by Jane E. Schneider
“A Ringo ate my baby!!”
I’m still laughing… :D
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:18 pmI’m still laughing… :D
Comment by Zooey — July 23, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Good, then it was worthwhile for me to take today off!
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:20 pmI didn’t take my name after the Beatle….and I don’t own a Hummer, I drive a freaking hybrid for Christ’s sake.
I did eat the baby though.
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:22 pmI didn’t take my name after the Beatle….
Comment by Ringo — July 23, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
Then where’d you get it, the old Lorne Green song? (Ewww!)
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:26 pmJane E. Schneider,
Then where’d you get it, the old Lorne Green song?
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…John Wayne’s character in the old John Ford movie ‘Stagecoach’.
Interestingly enough though, one of my best friend’s father wrote that ols Lorne Green song….Don Robertson is his name, great guy. Everyone from Elvis to Bob Dylan have covered his songs.
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:31 pmFan of the Man has done his part by copying and pasting his copy points IN BOLD on every topic on the board today. Have you done your part and followed his directions?
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:37 pmHave you done your part and followed his directions?
Comment by Zoom in — July 23, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:39 pm——————————————————
No. Why would we?
Ringo: “I think all of you “truthers†should file a class action against Bush demanding “more complete access to mental health careâ€â€¦.Afterall, it’s Bush’s fault that you’re all crazy.”
Hahahahaha. Hey, that’s a good one… Now about that lawsuit, veterans are claiming people running the VA under Bush are cheating them and screwing them. Was your little joke made to make light of these veterans’ plight?
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:49 pmAre you not a fan of The Fan of Man?
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:54 pmWhy would anyone sue this administration??? The department of Justice is corrupted behond any recognition. So is the Supreme Court. Impeach!!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:55 pm#30 Veritas…All we can do is work logically with the information we have.
(1) Conyers or other members of the Judiciary Committee have been physically threatened (Anthrax, or plane falling from sky which only happens to Democrats).
(2) Threatened with a verbal attack by 600 neo-conservative radio stations
(3) Blackmailed with information obtained through illegal wiretap
(4) Large envelope with money that says “For your Silence”.
Obviously Conyers is hoping and praying that they’ll come forward and work out a “compromise” (Miers testifies but not under oath, no transcript and Conyers has to keep both fingers in his ears while saying I can’t hear you I can’t hear you).
July 23rd, 2007 at 5:03 pm177 days to process a claim? I waited a frigging YEAR and there wasn’t even a war at the time. Boo Friggin hoo. FYI losers things were much worse during the Clinton Years and no he didn’t DIRECTLY affect it and Bush doesn’t directly affect things today. Quit your crying and get over yourself.
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:00 pmIt is about damn time that the VA was sued. I have been waiting four years for the VA to get off of their backsides with my disability claim.
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:46 pmA major part of the problem lies with Congress. Recognize that our Congress has still not passed but two budget measures to fund the government for FY2007, which ends this September 30th. The two passed were Defense & Homeland Security. The VA is operating on a Continuing Resolution (PL 110-5). This basically means that the VA is limited to spending no more than was allocated for them last year. In most cases, the various departments affected by a CR limit spending to 85% of last FY spending levels. With the increase in maimed veterans returning and entering the VA system, that level of spending will not support the care that these veterans deserve. Dubya is at fault for not demanding Congress pass the appropriations bills. Congress can’t get their head from their arse long enough to do anything productive. All of their time is spent in political posturing. The MSM doesn’t care about Congress inaction on funding bills.
Congress should all be recalled for failure to perform their Constitutional duties. The Administration should face recall for allowing it to happen. All Dubya had to do was Veto PL 100-5 and tell Congress to do your damn job and send a real budget.
In the meantime, the veterans are screwed and they don’t even get kissed.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:51 am