Snow: Bush Isn’t ‘Big On YouTube Debates’
Snow: Bush Isn’t ‘Big On YouTube Debates’
Last night’s Democratic presidential debate, hosted by CNN, allowed ordinary citizens around the country to be heard. By uploading a 30-second video to YouTube, “voters could directly question a presidential candidate during the debate.” Thirty-nine videos were chosen from the 2,989 submitted. CNN will hold a similar debate for the Republican candidates on Sept. 17.
Steve Grove, YouTube’s news and politics editor, noted that this new debate format “is more democratic than ever.” Carol Darr at George Washington University said that for the first time, “the filter that mainstream establishment media plays in presidential races — ‘we ask the questions, we are the exalted panel’ — that was broken down.”
This morning in a press briefing aboard Air Force One, a reporter asked White House Press Secretary Tony Snow whether the President’s remarks today about terrorism would address some of the criticisms from the Democratic presidential debate last night. When Snow said they wouldn’t, the reporter asked:
QUESTION: Did he watch the debate?
SNOW: I don’t think so. I don’t think he’s big on YouTube debates.
It’s not surprising that President Bush would dislike open, democratic debates. The Bush administration has banned Democrats from events in order to fabricate a sympathetic, supportive audience. During the campaign, “attendees to Bush rallies were turned away for wearing pro-John Kerry T-shirts and stickers.” They also were often encouraged to volunteer for the local Bush campaign, take pledges of support for the President, or answer questions about their loyalty to Bush in order to attend.
Bush may not be “big on YouTube debates” because they aren’t conducive to “catapulting the propaganda.” Via YouTube:
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Of course not. He's all about the script.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:54 pmOf course not. YouTards is run by libtards.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:55 pmI'll beat Thrasymachos to this:
*Yawn.*
July 24th, 2007 at 2:56 pmA YouTube debate? Like whether dramatic chipmunk beats skateboarding dog?
July 24th, 2007 at 2:56 pmSNOW: Bush doesn't "do" debates, the same way he doesn't "read" papers, or "pay attention" to polls.
SNOW: In fact, he doesn't even "do" President-ing because he's too much of a decider-er for that.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:57 pmBush isn't big on debates, period. He already knows everything. What's to debate?
July 24th, 2007 at 2:57 pmComment by Martha Stewart — July 24, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
Actually, I usually just say...
"Who cares?"
"So?
"So what?"
or
"Nobody cares!"
July 24th, 2007 at 2:58 pmBush only watches Fox News. That's how he avoids reality and finding out how the people really feel about him.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:00 pmInclusion of 'folk'.... well thats quaint.
-GWB (failure who let Osama bin Forgotten remain free)
July 24th, 2007 at 3:01 pm“Nobody cares!â€
Comment by Thrasymachos — July 24, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
Again, THIS thread is also NOT ABOUT YOU.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:01 pmwow
July 24th, 2007 at 3:03 pm“Nobody cares!â€
Comment by Thrasymachos
I think you mean No bodies....so I don't care.
You and the bottm of the bell curve. How heavy is your water today toad?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:03 pmHow many You Tube debates have there been? Is Yellow Snow saying the President won't be into future You Tube debates like the one the Republicans are planning in Sept.? Maybe Bush doesn't have much of a say anymore in the RNC and the GOP.
It is boring to hear another non answer from this administration.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:03 pmLet's see -- this is a guy who doesn't read the papers, doesn't want to get close to anyone who isn't a drooling sycophant, doesn't want to hear "bad news" of any kind, doesn't want to answer any questions other than his own (a la Rummy).
This way he can live in his own little warped reality, where we're winning the war in Iraq, Al Qaeda has been weakened (unless he has to fan the fear flames, in which case Al Qaeda is stronger), and history will vindicate his dismal approval ratings. He is the ULTIMATE "la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you" president.
Not only is he "not big" on YouTube debates, he's not big on discourse of any kind.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:04 pmNothing off script, please.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:04 pmAnd no butter or salt on the popcorn.
After all, we're askeert of them internet tubes.. U.
His speeches are staged. He doesn't know how to handle the truth. Seems like the neocons including the trolls here are in the twilight zone.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:05 pmThrasymachos - for someone who doesn't care, you sepnd a lot of time hanging around here.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:06 pmI'm with Bush on this one. These kind of debates are really a waste of time. Barely time for more than a pre-rehearsed sound bite, and even less than that if you aren't considered a "serious" candidate by the librul media.
No wonder all they could talk about afterward was Hillary's clothes. There was little of substance to discuss.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:06 pmYeah, great debate. Maybe CNN can have the snowman back on to ask questions. Hoo boy, thats grassroots at its finest. Plain and simple, the questions were considered more important than the answers, and that is why last nights debate was a dull joke.
Last time the libs decided to moderate the republican debate, they asked such insightful questions as "have you ever had premarital sex", yet they failed to ask the same thing of the democrats. Huh.
Quote of the night you wont see here at TP. Obama: "if Iraq falls into chaos, we will need Iran and Syria to help stabilize it". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Winning strategy there, Obama, try selling that to the public. You libs will NEVER learn.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:06 pmAimee -
I love when he goes off script. It's like a train wreck of bumbling goodness.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:06 pmWhatever happened to the Forrester character who forced those folks with the "No Blood for oil" sticker on their car away from the Bush meet and greet in Colorado? Also can we just now say that the new GOP talking point response is going to be lighten up? How about lighten up, macaca? Apparently the new nick name for the attorney General is Attorney General Torquemada. Gotta love it. Do you all read scott Horton over at Harper's?He's glenn Greenwalds twin seperated at birth.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:06 pmhttp://harpers.org/subjects/NoComment
Why the need to type in name and email today?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:07 pm"SNOW: I don’t think so. I don’t think he’s big on YouTube debates."
Be honest, Snow:
Bush considers the little people and their little activities far beneath his bloated status in wealth, control, and ability to pick and choose who lives and who dies, who is wire-tapped and who isn't, who is considered an enemy of the Party and who isn't.
I'm sure history's other dictators and other Caesars would have felt the same as Bush does about YouTube.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:07 pmBut when the Democrats ban FOX new that is good in your book. You losers can dish it but can't take it.
ROTFL
July 24th, 2007 at 3:08 pmWhat's the difference? When Bush did his debates he had a ear device on. LOL
July 24th, 2007 at 3:09 pmBig effort on CNN to let the public speak. Why did CNN screen all the questions, why not just pick at random and see what happens?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:10 pmBush is not big on any kind of debate, period! That's why he will only appear before carefully controlled, hand-picked crowds.
Anyone besides me notice that he no longer appears before military crowds, which used to be his standby? Now the closest he gets to military is when he visits Walter Reed for his photo op and he appears with the employees of Walter Reed who are all under orders to smile and look happy. The last time I saw Bush before a military audience they all sat there in stony silence and didn't even applaud him.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:10 pmI think he would have like the psycho with the machine gun.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:12 pmEarly in Plato's Republic, Thrasymachos proposes a definition: "Justice is nothing but the advantage of the stronger," explaining that "the same thing is just in all states, the advantage of the established government."
He goes on to say, "the ruler, as far as he is a ruler, makes no mistakes, and, making no mistakes, he lays down what is best for himself, and this the subject must do."
It's easy now to see why the 2007 version of Thrasymachos is such a big fan of Bush. George can make no mistakes, and all argument is moot.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:12 pm"Why the need to type in name and email today?"
I've been seeing this a lot lately. I'll post one or two posts and then when I hit the "post" button, it gives me an error message that I need to enter my name and e-mail. And, it usually happens after I have written a long post that is not there when I hit the back button.
TP - please do something about the functionality of this site. Between losing our names, the message not being there when you hit the back button and lack of registration to control the trolls, this site is practically unusable.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:13 pmTubular,
Care to expound on why you think Obama's comment about Syria and Iran in dealing with Iraq?
Keep in mind the Bush administration is working on a second round of talks with Iran to push forward the very concept you fine laughable.
So I'll also ask this. Are you going against the Bush administration that is trying to get Iran more involved in dealing with Iraq?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:14 pmBush was before a military audience today, you stoned moron.
Why is there no thread about what Biden had to say, his attack against fellow democrats for failing to support the military spending bill that Reid refuses to bring to the floor. The bill that would provide new and improved anti-mine vehicles and equipment.
Anyone? Anyone? I thought the libs just luuuuuuurrved the troops?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:14 pm#28. You mean Bill O'Reilly, I assume.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:14 pmSNOW: The HUMP on the president's back during the 2004 debates was NOT a microphone device.
SNOW: The president actually has a hunched-back. Why do 'some people' that oppose the war HATE people with scoliosis? Support the troops, don't defund the war, buy another yellow magnetic ribbon or three, and support hunched-backs or you're unAmerican! Get your yellow ribbons here before you have to get them over there (where they're made...in China).
July 24th, 2007 at 3:15 pmId like to how Hillary REALLY cares about womens issues, she can convince me by answering if she believes all the women who were molested by Bill.
Comment by Tubular Adnoma
Well, if you can get to Hillary and ask her, go ahead. To ask us is meaningless. "All the women" is so vague...
July 24th, 2007 at 3:15 pmScared of Fox? Why is a legitimate calculated decsion to freely choose NOT to appear on a hostile network is viewed as somehow being afraid. Rectular Lickoma could you explain your logic or lack there of?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:15 pmBill O'Reilly = illegal sexual harassment.
Bill Clinton = legal, consensual sexual relations.
see the difference?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:16 pmThe president wears dirty underwear. Nothing to change.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#17 Thrasymachos - for someone who doesn’t care, you sepnd a lot of time hanging around here.
Comment by bobcat_grad
Must be for all the sharp wit and repartee' here. Or maybe it shows how much better truly OPEN comment can be... unlike at some of the "other" sites, where the Progressive Police are out in force, to control any comments not provided by the NeoCon leaders!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:17 pmsee the difference?
Comment by Republicans Can't Govern
No. Please give a far more detailed explanation, including criminal charges filed and legal outcomes.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:18 pmtonybaloney is big on hair, and that's all
July 24th, 2007 at 3:21 pmWhy the need to type in name and email today?
Comment by Jay Randal —
TP is hosing up their cookie expirations, most likely.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:23 pmNo sh!t. That way, the questioners will not have been prescreened, taken a blood oath to der leider and given the questions from Karl Rove's script. In other words, they would not be stoogy props.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:23 pm#42. Sexual harassment is a crime. No need to formally charge someone for a crime to have been committed. In fact, in this case, O'Reilly settled the civil suit out of court.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7578-2004Oct28.html
July 24th, 2007 at 3:24 pmGeorge Bush lacks the ambition and social calibre to address the issues in Iraq and to retain respect from his fellow countrymen. He has not addressed the growing issue of global poverty and has instead, inhibited the progress of reaching the Millenium Goals [Borgen Project]. Very disappointing.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:25 pmAnyone else notice twat the lead story has been on matt's dredge site all morning? Guess we know what is really important to him and his readers!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:26 pmQUESTION: Did he watch the debate?
SNOW: I don’t think so. I don’t think he’s big on YouTube debates.
Let's fix that, shall we???
QUESTION: Did he watch the debate?
SNOW: I don’t think so. I don’t think he’s big debates.
There, much better.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:26 pmHey Happy Dude, I see you ran away when I pointed out your Lohan hypocrisy.
ROTFLMAO.....at you!!!
Give me a break. If Democrats think that was a real debate last night, they are in for a bigger shocker than I thought come fall 2008.
The Democratic Debates have had absolutely NO SUBSTANCE. The spineless cowards are scared to take on Queen Hillary which will result in her winning the primary only to lose the general.
Democrats are WIMPS. You won't debate on Fox. You won't attack each other AND you won't offer bold ideas with specifics. What a poor excuse for a party.
AND God bless President Bush for not watching the debates. Why would he watch a bunch of skirts attack him and lie about him.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:27 pm26... I agree that would be a hoot. They randomly asign a video question from all the submissions to one of the candidates. I would love to see Hillary explain why she is "black enough". Put that debate on pay-per-view!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:27 pm"all the women... "
Just flashed back to John Belushi on SNL - Killer Bees skit
July 24th, 2007 at 3:28 pmSell us your women! How much for your daughter!
another one pulled out of it's ass...
Your search - “if Iraq falls into chaos, we will need Iran and Syria to help stabilize it†- did not match any documents.
imagine that...
July 24th, 2007 at 3:30 pm#48. Strong words, considering George W. fell flat on his face in the first debate against John Kerry. "It's hard work." Hahahaha!!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:31 pm"It's hard work."
July 24th, 2007 at 3:32 pm"It's hard work."
"It's hard work."
"It's hard work."
Bush is not big....O.K...Now cheney on the other hand, is the true power behind the naked emperor and from what I have seen in photos he's one huge beached whale....Time to clean up our beaches and country, remove all these law breaker's, impeach, jail and seize all their asset's...Blessings
July 24th, 2007 at 3:33 pmI couldn't help but wonder last night while watching the debate how the pukes are going to be able to select the questions they want to answer - can't just let "anybody' ask a question now can we?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:33 pm"Bubble Boy Remains in his lonely Bubble" with only Barney and Laura at his side. Poor, pathetic Bubble Boy!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:33 pmHi Sharon! Blessings and peace! Good post, as always.
I'm more impressed as these debates go on with the calibre and quality of the democratic candidates. Last night was the best and although they may have differening opinions on a variety of issues, one thing was acutely clear to everyone who watched: These candidates are knowledgeable and have tangible plans for change which is so desperately necessary in this country right now. In actuality, I wouldn't be upset at having any one of them as President, perhaps with the exception of Mike Gravel simply because I believe he is too old. What a group of talented, knowledgeable, articulate, and intelligent individuals. They make democrats proud - very proud.
And contrasted to the group of dimwits running on the Republiscum ticket, well, all I can say is "you can't polish turds" and turds is all they have running this time.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:37 pm“Bubble Boy Remains in his lonely Bubble†with only Barney and Laura at his side. Poor, pathetic Bubble Boy!
Comment by veritas — July 24, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
according to the tabloids, always a reliable source, Laura is around so much anymore.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:38 pmThere is a puke running who could intelligently articulate ANY of the answers given by the Dems last night. Let's see them try a spontaneous, unrehearsed "YouTube" debate. They'll be outed for the mental midgets whom they are.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:38 pmBush is beginning to remind me of "little jack horner who sat in the corner eating his curds & whey, he pushed in his thumb (you know where) and pulled out a plum and said: See, I got a plan, duh!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:40 pmHe couldn't construct a legitimate plan for a vacation no less a war...he's never had a plan and is totally incapable of the thought processes necessary to the development of one. He isn't smart enough to select people smarter than himself to hatch one due to his incredibly overblown ego. What you see is what you get - a moron without a clue.
There is a puke running who could intelligently articulate ANY of the answers given by the Dems last night. Let’s see them try a spontaneous, unrehearsed “YouTube†debate. They’ll be outed for the mental midgets whom they are.
Comment by veritas
YouTube Republican debate content, short form: "Ronald Reagan! Ronald Reagan!"
July 24th, 2007 at 3:41 pm#48 The Democratic Debates have had absolutely NO SUBSTANCE. The spineless cowards are scared to take on Queen Hillary which will result in her winning the primary only to lose the general.
Democrats are WIMPS. You won’t debate on Fox. You won’t attack each other AND you won’t offer bold ideas with specifics. What a poor excuse for a party.
AND God bless President Bush for not watching the debates. Why would he watch a bunch of skirts attack him and lie about him.
Comment by God Help Us
And you find the Repugs are better???? Like they spend all their time channeling ronnie raygunz because they have nothing better to put up there?
And as to the dress issue, I will have to give you that one……RUDEE does look much better in a dress than any of the Dems…. and he is a bigger wimp to boot!
Comment by upside00 —
July 24th, 2007 at 3:41 pmanyone see "american dreamz" lately? What a parody on Bush. The hump we all see on his back is part of the microphone pack into his ear telling him everything to say and he still blows it. His cadence is up and down, up and down, predictability personified.....blah, blah, blah....and blah, blah, blah.....then the smirk....then the head bob....more blah, blah, blah.
Do they really send these eejits to speaking school? Tony Snowjob attended the same one I see.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:42 pmMy bad.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:44 pmHappy Dude did respond to my calling him out on Lohan's arrest.
3. Hours. Later.
Basically, he said that the Drudge reports all news, all the time, from both left and right, and thus is justified in reporting celebrity gossip.
On the other hand, TP, who was pointing out the hypocrisy of the major networks free for all on Paris while our soldiers were dying, was considered "gossip" by ROTFL Happy Dude.
(It's quite apparent that besides here and the Drudge Report, Happy Dude doesn't have a life. Pity.)
upside00: Ronnie Raygunz, I love it! They champion someone who was known to be in the throes of senile dementia while everyone feared that late some night, he'd hit the nuke button instead of the lightswitch...hahah! Remember that claymation number on him and Nancy sleeping in bed - a parody of his senility of sorts?? Sure, the Repukes champion senile past presidents and criminal current ones.....which says a bunch about who these people actually are - criminals and dementeds just like their "heroes".
July 24th, 2007 at 3:45 pmVeritas,
That was hilarious!!! Between that and Lil' Bush and watching all the actual footage, we may have the craziest set of visual (and audio) material to keep us laughing...and crying, for years to come!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:47 pmBush has become a mere cipher and charicature of himself now. I'm waiting for him to appear and vanish (beamed up) leaving only his dirty underwear and suit behind. (and his infamous earphone!).
July 24th, 2007 at 3:47 pmUpside00: Have to find some stroke of levity in all of this, don't we? Bush is enough to keep the comedians in material for years.....then when you add him to Ronnie Raygunz...well....president buffoons we shall call it.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:48 pm#62 - At least the GOP is not scrared to go in enemy territory like Olberman's MSNBC or Amanpour's CNN!!! The Dems are so thin-skinned.
AND look at what questions are not being asked - abortion, the right to bear arms, social security reform. Do you NOT think these issues will come up in the general. It's like Democrats live in some bubble.
#52 - George W. Bush was so upset he lost he won 51% of the vote and gained four senate seats for his party that year. Those senate seats gave us Alito and Roberts. So hang on to that debate - you'll need it.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:49 pm#68 Veritas,
Add in President Ford and his Chevy Chase impersonations, and we have a Repug Trifecta.
But at least Ford was not as dangerous to the rest of the world as Dubya... just those in close proximity.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:50 pmUpside00: And, as much as I can get worked up over the seeming lack of interest in these dems to impeach their bloody butts right now, perhaps the bigger carat would be the taking down of the entire Republican party?? That's basically what's happening when you look at the stats. The people are fleeing the sinking ship daily. More scandals and more instances of perjury by Bush's inner sanctum can only result in the total decimation of the GOP.
Any news from Flynt's corner on the Puke Senator screwing hookers? Wonder who it will be. I admire Flynt for putting the teaser out there that he's got a big one on the hook and then protracting the disclosure for full effect. Gotta love it!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:51 pmBack at ya Veritas and RUCerious,,Great post's....I didn't watch the debate's and not here much today...Doing my third load of washing, running the Bear and cleaning house..Posting of late is a royal pain and don't lurk or hang out much...Blessings to you all..Except the troll's ofcourse..LOL.They don't need Blessings as much as they need their med's changed.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:52 pmYouTube debates don't work well with the ear piece bush needs in order to answer questions.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:53 pm#71 - how Orwellian of you. That's fine - just don't cry next year when we gather all the Clinton's skeletons. AND "it's his personal life" won't cut it since you're taking such joy in playing big brother to the GOP.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:54 pmSharon - how's the diet?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:54 pmAfter last night's debate, the Puke Whoosies must be shaking in their boots - can you just imagine lisping Rudy attempting to discuss healthcare and his plan for it? Or McInsane ranting on and on about the war trying to make sense not only of the war itself but of his plan for the war? He needs to stick to buying cheap rugs in the green zone!
Let's see....who else is in their dazzling array of pulchritude?? Oh yes, Mitt, the Chameleon, Romney. Imagine Mitt discussing family values and the bigamy.
If the people were allowed to tee off on this group of weaklings, they'd have a field day. That's why their format will be well rehearsed questions and no extemporaneous creative ones.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:55 pmBetter yet: Let's have the Lisper discuth how his mistress-turned-wife works for a company which tortures pets to do their research?? Now that would net him big numbers with the kids!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:56 pm#76 - yes, please nominate Hillary. We're scared to death of her. We will rip her to shreds and enjoy every second of it. She is a corrupt LIAR and the right-wing can't wait to get our hands on her and her pro-partial birth abortion voting record.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:56 pmThe GOP convention next year is going to look like a village board meeting. 36 people with all the kool aid you can drink.
republicans don't flush, Republicans don't cover their mouths when they sneeze. Republicans can't go into certain restaraunts because of the 4 tooth minimum.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:57 pm#79 GOP Convention next year??? By then, there won't be a GOP.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:57 pm#69 At least the GOP is not scrared to go in enemy territory like Olberman’s MSNBC or Amanpour’s CNN!!! The Dems are so thin-skinned.
AND look at what questions are not being asked - abortion, the right to bear arms, social security reform. Do you NOT think these issues will come up in the general. It’s like Democrats live in some bubble. comment by GHU
Not sure where that first statement is goinbg, but both of those people have more balls than all the Faux NoNooz staff, plus the WH rolled together. They actually tell the Emporer he not only has no clothes but that he looks really funny without his codpiece. And Annanpour has done more tough articles in Darfur, Iraq and the other parts of the M. East that NO ONE, including you can question her character. But you wouldn't understand.
And all those issues will be dabated, and unlike all the flip-flopping on the Repugs side, real answers will come out.
But I see your only real issue are your guns, much as I imagined. Bet you would shit bricks if they came and took those away, while eavesdropping and finding out how many are unregistered.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:57 pm#77 - let's talk about Hillary's husband's ties to Dubai? Sandy Burglar? Their massive holdings in "big oil" companies.
Every attack is moot when you nominate Hitler next year. She is a crook.
July 24th, 2007 at 3:58 pmVeritas: Land of Confusion, a song that is as appropriate today as it was in '86(?). Of course, they were all a buncha libs back then. :)
(Stupidest argument I've ever seen from Conservatives involves some combination of 'lib' and a half-brained 'insult'...and I see them very frequently. Heh)
July 24th, 2007 at 3:58 pmtubular Absentia, get back to me when ya can about your logic on why fear would be a reason for not appearing on Fox? Hello, ya out there?Come on back the water's fine, jump right in, we'll help save you from drowning in dillusional rightwing sludge......
July 24th, 2007 at 3:59 pm#79 - please explain why all general election polls are deadlocked, then? Are Dems that weak and timid?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:59 pm"Bush isn’t big on debates, period. He already knows everything. What’s to debate?
Comment by gummitch — July 24, 2007 @ 2:57 pm"
I'm rather amazed at TP using up so much space to report a non-issue...that's quite a long article. Must be having to really reach to come up with anything anti-Bush today.
Don't know if you all noticed or not, but Bush isn't running for anything in the next election.
Who cares if he watched the debates or not?
July 24th, 2007 at 3:59 pmUpside00: When it comes to balls, Hillary Clinton has more than the sum total of gonads of the Repuke candidates combined! hahaha! Not only that but she's alone has more innate intelligence than the combined brain power of the entire slate of GOP candidates. She can emasculate, castrate, chew and spit them all out for breakfast.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:00 pm#86 Bush doesn't even know what YouTube is, dude! That's how ignorant he is. He probably can't run the remote for his television either.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:01 pmO. Bigfoot - Yeti - In case your wondering, YOU are not big news here so make like a tree and leave. We don't need your input here, thank you.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:02 pmHe probably can’t run the remote for his television either.
Comment by veritas
Of course, that assumes that he doesn't get up to turn the knob.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pmQ. What is the difference between a crooked NBA referee and a member of the current administration?
A. One cheats to illegally make his cronies money and the other can be found on a basketball court.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pmUpside00: Perhaps someone needs to make a new skit entitled: Ronnie Raygunz and Dimwit Dubya - Two Republican Morons.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pm#86 Who cares if he watched the debates or not?
Comment by O. Bigfoot
yea, but he might actually learn something.... like when he watched a dvd of New Orleans.......3 days after Katrina!
But then he would lose his Bubble Boy status.
And hate to disappoint all the Rrepugs, but ya can't run from Dubya and Darth, their shitstain is so deeply woven into your party, it will gag everyone as we apporach the elections. And let's count how many additional seats will the Dems pick up. This will be fun to watch, as KKKarl's 100year Repug reign circles the drain!
July 24th, 2007 at 4:06 pmWho cares if he watched the debates or not?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 24, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
July 24th, 2007 at 4:06 pm------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly! It must be a slow day in TP-land.
Who cares if you care if he watched the debates.
Republicans drink expired milk.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:15 pmYou know the sad truth of it is, for you folks that can't understand why it's a big deal whether the President watched the debates or not, there really aren't too many intelligent questions left to ask of Tony, that he can factually answer containing a high percentage of the truth.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:16 pmBush debating is as big an oxymoron as military intelligence.
YouTubers, ages 8-12 could quite easily beat him debating, be it geography, history, technology or reading.
Sad, isn't it? Most Americans want to support their President.
When our youth see the man behind the green curtain propped up by a munchkin real estate lawyer from Texas lying his ass off to Congress, credibility is hard to find.
Sad, indeed.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:18 pmAND look at what questions are not being asked - abortion, the right to bear arms, social security reform. Do you NOT think these issues will come up in the general. It’s like Democrats live in some bubble.
#52 - George W. Bush was so upset he lost he won 51% of the vote and gained four senate seats for his party that year. Those senate seats gave us Alito and Roberts. So hang on to that debate - you’ll need it.
Comment by God Help Us — July 24, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
You know who was taking away guns from American citizens, Blackwater USA, under control of Dubya... During the Katrina mess they went in to upper & middle class neighborhoods and demanded people give up their arms.
Abortion, ok you take "God" out of all aspects of govt, and we'll give up abortion.. Deal? This means no more in god we trust on money, "under god" removed from the pledge. And anytime a govt official brings up "god" he faces a $50,000 fine, and after 3 fines, he is put to death.
If you worried as much about the living babies, as you do the unborn, god/jesus would be much happier with you.
Social security doesn't need reformed, we need a few tax reforms, like windfall profits on corporations, if Oil companies are going to gouge us at the pump, then they'll get gouged come tax time. Hell the money the drug companies spend pushing their drugs on TV could probably fix the shortfalls in S.S. Let your doctor tell you which limp pen1s medication you need, and not some commercial.
America has woke up to the party living in a bubble, you GOP'ers are the ones who increased terrorists in the world. Your "Shawk & Ahh" bombing campaign only increased terrorists by 1000%. Amazing everything the GOP touches goes to shit. Only a few idiots, and Jesus lovers are still supporting them. What's that make you?
Sorry there's no way the GOP is winning much of anything in '08.. Your ONLY chance is a complete pullout of Iraq, the terrorists following us home, and another terror attack here in the USA. But even then dubya and the GOP are in big trouble.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:19 pmThat was the most welcoming debate I have ever seen. People were asking questions on topics that REALLY MATTER in our world. I cannot wait to see the questions that Republicans will ask their candidates:
Gay hatred, and how to finally legalize it.
Some nonsense about JEZUZ.
Some pointless shit about THE CHILDREN.
What country can we decimate next?
Should the flag be burned?
How can we stop stem cell research?
Are computers EVIL?
Republicans; you birthed this ugly little baby called the Republican agenda - now we get to see you eat it.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:20 pmSNOW: I don’t think so. I don’t think he’s big on YouTube debates.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:20 pmSince, to my knowledge, this was the first ever YouTube debate, it would be impossible for Snow to guage what Bush thinks about "them".
Do you think Bush will be watching when the republicans do the same thing in Sept? It's quite possible that Bush has become irrelevant in his own party.
Republicans lie to their spouses.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:20 pmI love how the trolls are screaming that nobody cares. If nobody really cared, why would the trolls be screaming so loud that nobody cares. It's almost like the trolls want nobody to care, but people do care, so that makes the trolls nervous. Hmm. It sucks to be a troll.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:21 pmJesus, Jihad, well said!
July 24th, 2007 at 4:21 pmHay Veritas, I have my own black hearted stocker troll....LOL..I would feel so special if he had a higher IQ..With out even seeing me he think's I am on a diet....Poor troll, must be one of those they removed from the looney hospital's a few year's ago and now deny med's cause they live under the bridge....Have a great day...Blessings
July 24th, 2007 at 4:22 pmOf course, that assumes that he doesn’t get up to turn the knob.
Comment by SGT Higgins
I've heard he's a big fan of knobs.....and shiny things.....and crackly noises.....
July 24th, 2007 at 4:22 pmPoor troll, must be one of those they removed from the looney hospital’s a few year’s ago and now deny med’s cause they live under the bridge….Have a great day…Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Hey Sharon, out of all of the TP commenters riding that idiot's ass, he seems the most afraid of you. Nice work!
July 24th, 2007 at 4:24 pm#98 Sorry there’s no way the GOP is winning much of anything in ‘08.. Your ONLY chance is a complete pullout of Iraq, the terrorists following us home, and another terror attack here in the USA. But even then dubya and the GOP are in big trouble.
Comment by Jihad Jesus
Great post Gezuss! And I so agree, they are all talking about how well they are doing in the polls, except the new registration of Democrats is higher than ever and the people, not Dems or Repugs... the PEOPLE are sick of the Iraq occupation, the corruption, the total lack of consideration for the average person. That last thing will likely be the real downfall of the GOP in 09.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:25 pmI love how the trolls are screaming that nobody cares. If nobody really cared, why would the trolls be screaming so loud that nobody cares. It’s almost like the trolls want nobody to care, but people do care, so that makes the trolls nervous. Hmm. It sucks to be a troll.
Comment by Jeremy
Aren't they precious? Mr Pee is the worst of them, of course. He spends all his time pretending "Nobody cares!!!!!!" but gets awfully put out if no one pays attention to him.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:25 pmI’ve heard he’s a big fan of knobs…..and shiny things…..and crackly noises…..
Comment by Zooey
And tools, don't forget tools, he apparently collects them...keeps 'em all in some sort of 'cabinet'.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:27 pmZooey
Aren’t they precious? Mr Pee is the worst of them, of course. He spends all his time pretending “Nobody cares!!!!!!†but gets awfully put out if no one pays attention to him.
Comment by Zooey
Kinda like that other "pretend president", the Decider Guy!
July 24th, 2007 at 4:28 pm"love how the trolls are screaming that nobody cares. If nobody really cared, why would the trolls be screaming so loud that nobody cares. It’s almost like the trolls want nobody to care, but people do care, so that makes the trolls nervous. Hmm. It sucks to be a troll.
Comment by Jeremy — July 24, 2007 @ 4:21 pm"
Sure, you .001 percenters care, but the real world does not. I was just reading this thread for my daily dose of humour.
As for veritas, another thing I simply do not care about is whether or not you feel my input is wanted or not. As a good friend of mine once stated, and he may have been paraphrasing somebody, "The opinions of ignorant people have no effect on me."
You are long on passion and insistence, but short on facts and good argument. In short, most conservatives can run rings around you intellectually. 'Nuf said.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:31 pmLast time the libs decided to moderate the republican debate, they asked such insightful questions as “have you ever had premarital sexâ€, yet they failed to ask the same thing of the democrats. Huh.
Comment by Tubular Adnoma — July 24, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Probably because the Republicans are always harping about the evils of sex. But they mean for other people, not them.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:38 pmLady Z, so funny..Oh wait maybe he know's I pack a big one and know how to shoot.....LOL...I think rove is slipping with his recruit's, don't you.? They realy need to advertise and pay these troll's more, low wage's attract low mental midget's...Blessings
July 24th, 2007 at 4:38 pm#111 Sure, you .001 percenters care, but the real world does not. I was just reading this thread for my daily dose of humour. bigfoot
WOW!! Care to share where THAT poll number came from? And what part of the Commonwealth are you from (the "humour" gave it away)?
HEY!!! Are you really little Tony Blair helping his little frind Georgie out?
July 24th, 2007 at 4:40 pm#111 Comment by O. Bigfoot — July 24, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
In short, most conservatives can run rings around you intellectually.
So, are you a conservative or a neoconservative? In other words what do you stand for and what is your ideology?
July 24th, 2007 at 4:48 pmmost intellectuals don't use the word "Nuff"
July 24th, 2007 at 4:51 pmAnd tools, don’t forget tools, he apparently collects them…keeps ‘em all in some sort of ‘cabinet’.
Comment by SGT Higgins — July 24, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
He likes to dress up his ugliest tool in linen suits and Ferragamo shoes. :-D
July 24th, 2007 at 4:52 pmKinda like that other “pretend presidentâ€, the Decider Guy!
Comment by upside00
Exactly like that guy. :D
July 24th, 2007 at 4:53 pmYou are long on passion and insistence, but short on facts and good argument. In short, most conservatives can run rings around you intellectually. ‘Nuf said.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
I do hope you're not including yourself in the "most conservatives" group. But do stick around, I'd like to see Merlin skin you alive. :)
July 24th, 2007 at 4:55 pmLady Z, so funny..Oh wait maybe he know’s I pack a big one and know how to shoot…..LOL…I think rove is slipping with his recruit’s, don’t you.? They realy need to advertise and pay these troll’s more, low wage’s attract low mental midget’s…Blessings
Comment by Sharon
Now you're gonna make him wet himself! :D
If Rove is paying these idiots, he's all the way around the bend nuts.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:56 pm"The Decider" isn't big on being held accountible by the citizens of his nation. There's a word for that - fascism.
July 24th, 2007 at 5:00 pmou are long on passion and insistence, but short on facts and good argument. In short, most conservatives can run rings around you intellectually. ‘Nuf said.
Comment by O. Bigshot — July 24, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
Yeah, actually it's called circular reasoning, and now they/you are dizzy from their/your own BS. "By their fruits ye shall know them", and your heroes are running everything they touch into the ground...
July 24th, 2007 at 5:08 pm#119 Comment by Zooey — July 24, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
But do stick around, I’d like to see Merlin skin you alive. :)
Thanks, Zoo,
He is gone and will only pop in for a few quickies and run like the wind. That's what he did on this thread. He doesn't stand a chance here, and he knows it. We work as as tag team does here, each in his own way. I suspect he is a troll full of talking points, he calls "facts," to back up his neocon ideology. He won't even commit himself on TP about his ideology, as we all do here. Of course that takes courage.
And you know I'm right, don't you, bigfoot. You are a "hit and run lurker", not a real person who discusses or debates. You rush in, deride with arrogance, and scamper out the door before any one can call you on your terrible attitude. 'Nuf said.
July 24th, 2007 at 5:27 pmSo? I bet a lot of people aren't big on utube debates..
July 24th, 2007 at 6:08 pmBush already did his debating. He tooled your guy in 2000, remember?
July 24th, 2007 at 6:10 pmHell the money the drug companies spend pushing their drugs on TV could probably fix the shortfalls in S.S. Let your doctor tell you which limp pen1s medication you need, and not some commercial.
So you want to gut the first amendment?
July 24th, 2007 at 6:14 pmm12 your really showing your wisdum today. Kerry and Bush both were Harvard 'liberals', as you 'conned folks' continually deny, and both were in the same club.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:22 pm125: He STOLE the election in 2000, remember?
July 24th, 2007 at 6:23 pmSo you want to gut the first amendment?
Comment by m12
Don't know what viagra has to do with the constitution. Viagra can be gotten for free from the drug makers if your below the federal poverty level.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:25 pmYeah, heres Bush on youtube for all you "haters". And there aint a thing you can do about it.......................HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAA. LOSERS!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ypa75axdK6o
July 24th, 2007 at 6:29 pm125: He STOLE the election in 2000, remember?
You can believe that if you wish. But if he did, tooling Gore in the debates certainly brought the margin close enough!
July 24th, 2007 at 6:30 pmHey there m12, remember this? It is your post!
Describe victory in Iraq…
Victory in Iraq is a thriving Democracy with oil revenues flowing into US coffers through US military bases that can and will be used for further military action against Iran.
Comment by m12 — July 22, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
What a selfish, arrogant and angry man you are! To believe these things as you stated them you share Bush's insane megalomania. (That means delusions of grandeur, in case you did not know.) You need serious help from a psychotherapist.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:36 pmThose people clapping in that video should all be lined up against a wall.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:36 pmWhat a selfish, arrogant and angry man you are! To believe these things as you stated them you share Bush’s insane megalomania. (That means delusions of grandeur, in case you did not know.) You need serious help from a psychotherapist.
Sorry, all my local psychotherapists are administering shock treatments to homos.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:43 pmIf it isn't parroted by a pundit or a dittohead m12 doesn't know about it.
The fact is m12 the military, under the Bush administration, is making handshake deals with and arming the Sunnis. Saddam was a Sunni. Remember? http://www.oregonlive.com/forums/usatwar/index.ssf?artid=56432
The same thing happened in Vietnam. The fact is that sooner or later deals must be made to bring about peace talks and security/democracy to the Iraqi people. This was a freedom operation. REMEMBER?? They wanted to FREE the so called TERRORISTS??
Gawd, what are you m12 14yrs old and out on summer vacation?
July 24th, 2007 at 6:45 pmThis was a freedom operation. REMEMBER?? They wanted to FREE the so called TERRORISTS??
No, we wanted to (and are) kill the TERRORISTS, and free the people from the regime of Saddam Hussein, who is now suffering in whatever religious hellhole he believed in!
July 24th, 2007 at 6:49 pmSorry, all my local psychotherapists are administering shock treatments to homos. Comment by m12
Jeff Gannon (R), Ted Haggard (C) and Mark Foley (R) are gonna be so hurt by your insult. Not to mention Mcains aide who was arrested offering an undercover cop 20 bucks to perform oral sex on him.
Shall we review those value voter moral majority folks again?
July 24th, 2007 at 6:49 pmNo, we wanted to (and are) kill the TERRORISTS, and free the people from the regime of Saddam Hussein, who is now suffering in whatever religious hellhole he believed in! Comment by m12
You are to chicken to go serve. The only thing your killing is what few brain cells you have leftover from huffing spraypaint and playing video war on your X-Box.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:52 pmJeff Gannon (R), Ted Haggard (C) and Mark Foley (R) are gonna be so hurt by your insult. Not to mention Mcains aide who was arrested offering an undercover cop 20 bucks to perform oral sex on him.
Why would they be hurt? Haggard at least went to shock therapy. It worked.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:54 pmWhy would they be hurt? Haggard at least went to shock therapy. It worked. Comment by m12
He didn't go to shock therapy. He consulted with the very same people he lied to for years and they declared him cured. Would you fall asleep with Haggard in the same room with you, since he's cured and all?
Heh. I bet you wouldn't! Haggard is a hypocrite just like YOU.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:58 pm#135 Comment by m12 — July 24, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
No, we wanted to (and are) kill the TERRORISTS, and free the people from the regime of Saddam Hussein, who is now suffering in whatever religious hellhole he believed in!
You are nuttier than a fruitcake! You live in a fantasy world of superheros who wear capes and slay the Evil ones with their super power. Meanwhile, you scream in envy to be let in on all the excitement you hear from the neocons. And when you put the superhero comic book down, the fear and loneliness must hit you like a ton of bricks.
How does it feel to be totally impotent?
July 24th, 2007 at 7:05 pmHe didn’t go to shock therapy. He consulted with the very same people he lied to for years and they declared him cured. Would you fall asleep with Haggard in the same room with you, since he’s cured and all?
Absolutely. He is cured, and I have never seen liberals provide any proof to say otherwise!
July 24th, 2007 at 7:05 pm#141 Comment by m12 — July 24, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
Absolutely. He is cured, and I have never seen liberals provide any proof to say otherwise!
And I've never seen any hypocritical preacher (or any one else) provide proof that he is cured.
But then you are a believer. A man who uses the "big crutch of religion" to avoid reality. If Dobson says it it must be true cause he is a god fearing man and a big shot preacher. And you believe Bush, because he says god supports him, when he stands in the bully pulpit and preaches hate and killing.
Fool, you'd believe that men could give birth, if some phony with his collar turned around said it from the pulpit.
July 24th, 2007 at 7:20 pmBu$h is an idiot, so are his supporters. It is so obvious to anyone with any brains that nothing else needs to be said. Even those who raised their fingers in triumph during the iraq elections are now raising their middle fingers to the unilateral US troops, as democracy marches the death march in the middle east. Those who support shrub now will support anything and everthing he says, unwavering and forever, without understanding or reason. These people are the faithful to their anti-christ leader.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:26 pmI am amazed by the hatred/anger on this site. The cussing and name calling aimed at republicans is sickening. Why can't you make your points with facts rather than slandering the party you don't agree with?
July 24th, 2007 at 8:51 pmOh, and have any of you ever even watched Fox News? There sure are a lot of kool-aid drinkers around here.
Uh, in what way was the MSM filter not in operation here?
There were 3000 questions submitted. CNN filtered them and left out all the really hard questions.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:13 pmI love Bush.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:37 pmOf course "Bush isn't big"!
His weenie is unimaginably small.
It's why he overcompensates so much by
pumping up his macho-ness.
Bush is a professional Macho-Nessie!
Alas, that has Bush launching Iraq INVASION,
killing US Troops in FOR-PROFIT wars
to enrich his pals in Big Oil, war-industry corporations,
no-bid corrupt contractors, constantly SHOVELING TAX DOLLARS out of USTreasury into their pockets.
The only way they'll ever impeach Bush is to stick a peach up his arse.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:44 pmOf course “Bush isn’t bigâ€!
His weenie is unimaginably small.
Comment by ddarker — July 24, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
An unusual bit of info ya got there, bud! ;)
July 25th, 2007 at 12:10 amI am amazed by the hatred/anger on this site. The cussing and name calling aimed at republicans is sickening.
Comment by me — July 24, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Must be the higher level of discourse Elizabeth Edwards was hoping for. ;)
July 25th, 2007 at 12:12 am39 out of 2989. So CNN's panel picked questions from a youtube pool instead of having their "journalists" make them up. It would have been the very same questions anyway, just phrased by a talking head instead of a sock puppet on a video wall. No matter how much CNN would like to spin it as "democratic" or different, I just don't see any difference.
July 25th, 2007 at 11:36 amDo you really think the YouTube questions in the Democratice debate were not screened for appropriate content before they were allowed to be displayed to the candidates?
July 25th, 2007 at 12:09 pmOne thing about the debates that was misleading. One woman who says she has breast cancer who was around 30 yrs old says she was not able to get preventative treatment for breast cancer due to lack of available insurance. Let me ask all of you, Is there a pill or some other thing that will prevent breast cancer? Most women are told to get a baseline mammogram done at age 40. Women in their late 20's or early 30's are told to so self exams and only get a mammogram before 40 if there is a family hx of breast ca. You dont need insurance to get a mammogram as there are many places that will do one for 75$. This whole idea that socialized medicine will be better care, ask any Canadian if there system works. She would have to wait soo long for any treatment up there its pathetic- I know because I do many mri's on pts from canada who dont want to die waiting for health care. Look at what consequences socialized medicine will have-- Huge increase in taxes to pay for this, many workers leaving the job market due to high taxes, much longer waiting times for any exam, some government beaurocrat making decision on whether the goverment will pay for it. no incentive for a healthcare institutions to be efficient. How do I know this, I ask the Canadian pts I see and this is what they tell me. Also they pay 40 and 50% income tax rates plus other taxes for a system that doesnt work. Just think, it would be cheaper to buy insurance than have the government take 1/2 of my income.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:15 pmMaybe he's being coy. It might explain why all comments on YouTube are retarded to the point of absurdity if George W. Bush was the one that actually made them.
I mean, I watch him on the news and that's what I've come to expect from him. But I have much higher standards for the internet. What is the deal with Youtube comments?!
July 25th, 2007 at 2:37 pm“the filter that mainstream establishment media plays in presidential races — ‘we ask the questions, we are the exalted panel’ — that was broken down.� ... "Thirty-nine videos were chosen from the 2,989 submitted." So, where exactly is this lack of filter?
July 25th, 2007 at 3:20 pmAnd I’ve never seen any hypocritical preacher (or any one else) provide proof that he is cured.
Please explain what you want to be shown to prove that a cure for homosexuality exists.
How can we prove it to you?
July 25th, 2007 at 4:46 pmIt’s great that so many young people got online for these debates. Another cool thing that’s happening is the What’s Your Plan? campaign—where young people are hitting the campaign trail to talk face to face with all of the Presidential candidates about issues that are important to them. Young people are asking one simple question: What’s Your Plan? To stop global warming. To make a college education affordable. To provide effective, affordable health care. To address financial security for Americans. Already they’ve had 35 face to face conversations with the candidates in California, Illinois, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, and South Carolina—including: Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, Barack Obama, John Edwards, Duncan Hunter, John Cox, Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, John McCain, Tommy Thompson, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Hillary Clinton, Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee and Joe Biden. For more information go to http://www.whats-your-plan.org. What’s Your Plan? is a project of the Student PIRGs’ New Voters Project and affiliated youth organizations.
July 25th, 2007 at 7:35 pmscary.... Bush just quoted hitler.
July 26th, 2007 at 4:53 amMy concern about the YouTube debates was the gender gap.
I want to know who picked the questions.... were candidate reps involved, or was CNN the main picker, or YouTube/Google.
Women make up 54 percent of the population, 55 percent of registered voters and 60 percent of the electorate. So I want to know why only 24% of the YouTube questions chosen were posed by women!
For more on my thoughts about this, check out my recent blog:
Almost 9 Million More Women - YouTube Blew It? at http://www.EverydayCitizen.com
August 1st, 2007 at 10:22 pmDo we have a king now? Or, do we have a president? I might go to jail for asking this question. Is that your idea of America? Under current law, questioning Dear Leader's authority could make me an enemy of the state. Is that what you voted for? Below, there is some really scary stuff, read it and YOU could become an enemy of freedom and the United States.
Camps?...Haliburton and KBR have already been paid to build them. Should I go first, or should you pick someone to go before me? Germany and Japan started the same way. Are you happy with that thought? Under Republican, one party rule, we've already paid for them. The Democrats did not rescind the Republican camps.
The Republicans care nothing for you. They have a few economic policies that they want to preserve...no taxes for the rich and nothing for the poor. That plays right into your religious dogma, screw the poor and help the rich. Isn't that what Jesus preached? To be religiously correct they added hate the gays and hate abortion...just to make sure you would stay with the party line...did it work?
I thank God that Jesus and the Republican party have finally put America on the right path! The poor should die and the rich should live forever and never pay taxes! Your home is inviolate...unless some 20something in the Justice Department doesn't like you...then YOU could become an enemy of the state! Like that? Cool! Judges should NEVER be involved in politics, like they are now. Vote Republican! You could also vote Democrat and delay the process for 2-3 years.
In CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
If you really believe in our Declaration of Independence, do not vote for ANY office holder next year. If you love our constitution, DO NOT VOTE for an incumbent next year. We need to save our republic!
If you got this far, you should read the last sentence of the above. Dump incumbents next year Let's try to start a new republic that actually cares for WE THE PEOPLE.
I could bring up something that's really scary but I dont't want to traumatize you with our constitution.
August 28th, 2007 at 5:05 am