The Army Times reports that “the Army has ordered 1,106 soldiers, former recruiters, away from their current assignments and back to recruiting duty starting on Friday.” The Army issued the order because it is “having significant difficulties getting new recruits because of the unpopularity of the Iraq War.”
“unpopularity of the Iraq War”
This seems like a strange statement to me.. Is a war EVER popular??
July 25th, 2007 at 1:09 pmPoor Army. Adding more recruiters will not change the FUNDAMENTAL problem — which is — people will NOT join the Army because they believe this war is illegal, they want us OUT, and because Dubya is a lying, snivelling coward who doesn’t give a g–damned thing about the integrity and honor of the United States of America.
Buck Fush!
July 25th, 2007 at 1:10 pmoh.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:12 pmBush’s Napoleonic dreams of hegemony crafted by his fellow NeoCon morons is going down the tubes. They all need to be tried then put in jail !
July 25th, 2007 at 1:15 pmYa think? They have been having significant recruiting problems for over a year now. That is why Bush had to extend the current tours from 12 months to 15 months, and I expect he will soon extend the 15 months to 24 months. Bush has no more people he can stop-loss into his war and he can’t get any new recruits, so what is he going to do now? Seems to me that his only choice at this point to reinstate the draft.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:15 pmCan the President activate the selective service without Congressional approval? Signing statement or something…?
July 25th, 2007 at 1:16 pmDon’t waste your time with the college repugnacans.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:17 pmMr. Pee/THrasymachos/PiP/LibWeenie:
“The surge is WORKING!!!!”
Me. Pee’s Tube Sock: begs the cat to drag him under the bed.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:19 pmStart the draft, the only moral way to handle this.
It’s not moral our troops are on their 3rd and 4th tours while pussies like Mr P hides in his moms basement and is a war cheerleader.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:19 pmAs well with all his pedophile friends like Patrick, Jake, JMH, Sexion, and so on.
#5 Seems to me that his only choice at this point to reinstate the draft.
Comment by bilbobaggins
Now THAT would bring a screeching halt to this war as all those Young Repugs on Campus told Dad and Mom to get this shit over with and let them get back to their Frat parties and their College Girls Gone Wild vids!!
July 25th, 2007 at 1:19 pmMuch ado about nothing.
Simply approach all the republicans in Congress and ask them to offer up their sons, daughters, nieces, nephews, etc., for–er–sacrifice.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:21 pmYeah, this is great idea.
People are so disgusted with this war and this President that they are fleeing military service in droves.
So let’s hire more recruiters to harass the people who we already know don’t want to serve.
What makes them think the new recruiters will have any better luck than the old ones?
July 25th, 2007 at 1:21 pmIs a war EVER popular??
Comment by JG
It depends on how many US soldiers die.
Granada = Good
Vietnam = Bad
Sad state of morals.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:21 pmPretty soon they’ll have to start impressment, with billy clubs in back alleys, as the bars close.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:24 pmMaybe Bush needs a signing statement officially changing the name from: US ARMY to Army of Jesus against Islam. That might get some of the loony bin believers like Duhryll to sign up.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:24 pmoh.
Comment by Thrasymachos — July 25, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
WTF?!? Is that the best you can come up with, troll?
July 25th, 2007 at 1:26 pmDuh.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:27 pmComment by VerbalKint — July 25, 2007 @ 1:26 pm
It was either “oh.” or “So?”
July 25th, 2007 at 1:28 pmgoddam it to hell (and, yes, i’m feeling VERY SHRILL!)…! we sit here and decry the iraqi parliament for taking august off and, while our constitution is in flames, our congress does the same exact goddam friggin’ thing…
FORGET THE F*****G RECESS!
STICK TO YOUR JOBS AND PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTION!
besides, if you go into recess, bush is just going to slip through a big pile of recess appointments anyway…
GET A FREAKIN’ CLUE, CONGRESS!
THE COUNTRY IS AT STAKE!
And, yes, I DO take it personally
July 25th, 2007 at 1:29 pm….but I thought Lindsey Graham told us the troops are re-enlisting “in record numbers” last week on Meet Tim Russert? How can the Army NOT be meeting thier recruiting goals? The surge is WORKING, right?
(Hard work)
July 25th, 2007 at 1:30 pmI guess Mr. P, Ringo and some of the other trolls can help the recruiting numbers.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:31 pmThe short-notice assignments are temporary — they begin Friday and will run no later than Oct. 15.
Because the Fiscal Year runs through the end of Sept.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:31 pm2 weeks to transition back to their current units. This sounds like a year-end surge to try to avoid bad publicity due to year end recruitment goal backlash.
Not to worry, they will cover the shortfall with the BlackWater Foreign Legion, and then all the NeoCons will get even richer! And guess what…. many of the employees of BW are non-US citizens, so they follow no rule of the Geneva COnvention and answer to only their Imperial Wizard, Darth Cheney,.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:31 pmComment by profmarcus — July 25, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Dude… I think you are on the wrong thread.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:32 pmthe unpopularity of the war is obvious – our soldiers are dying and a solution has not been nearly reached for the past 5 years. Since then, over 340 billion dollars and countless lives have been financed for this war [Borgen Project]. The unpopularity of the war should have been from the very beginning. War should never happen honestly, but if it must, it should be to defend our values and not to infringe ours upon others.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:33 pmYeah I thought I heard Lindsey Graham say that too.
Draft College Republicans!
July 25th, 2007 at 1:33 pmSgt Higgins – Greetings!!
Wouldn’t it just be easier to either pay a bigger signing and retention bonus or to fudge the numbers?
July 25th, 2007 at 1:34 pmbut I thought Lindsey Graham told us the troops are re-enlisting “in record numbers†last week on Meet Tim Russert? How can the Army NOT be meeting thier recruiting goals?
Comment by robbez_92107
Re-enlistment and recruitment are not the same thing.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:36 pmWouldn’t it just be easier to either pay a bigger signing and retention bonus —- Paying more in bonuses? That’s a bribe. I’m all for it!
or to fudge the numbers? —- easier? maybe. But it lacks integrity.
Comment by upside00
July 25th, 2007 at 1:38 pmUntil someone can point to even ONE positive accomplishment made by this preznut, I will maintain that Bush is The WORST President EVER!!!
July 25th, 2007 at 1:38 pmWar should never happen honestly, but if it must, it should be to defend our values and not to infringe ours upon others.
Comment by Erica — July 25, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
BRAVO!! Well said! [standing ovation]
July 25th, 2007 at 1:39 pmIf the most vocal war supporters among us enlisted, there would be no problem!
July 25th, 2007 at 1:40 pmThis is really dreadful. Recruiting is one of the toughest jobs in the military. The guys are continuously badgered if they don’t meet their goals. It is really tough on families especially in high cost areas. It’s no wonder they have problems. I’m sure the guys/gals who breathed a sigh of relief when their tour was over are banging their heads against the wall.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:40 pmAnother surge doomed to fail…..
July 25th, 2007 at 1:41 pmUntil someone can point to even ONE positive accomplishment made by this preznut, I will maintain that Bush is The WORST President EVER!!!
Comment by Bush_is_Moron — July 25, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
He destroyed the Republican Party.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:41 pmWhy is ‘mikey r’ a super c*nt?
July 25th, 2007 at 1:44 pmAwwww, shucks! Bushie Boy hasn’t more toy soldiers to play “Escalation Forever”
July 25th, 2007 at 1:44 pmComment by Zehava — July 25, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Looky, it’s another libetroll to the TP collection.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:45 pmSgt Higgins -
In your mind, how long will it take to rebuild the Army after this Clusterf(ck is over? I mean not only in equipment but in the ranks as well? And how long do you think the damage will take to be repaired?
I was in Vietnam, and it took quite a while for all that to shake out.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:45 pmUntil someone can point to even ONE positive accomplishment made by this preznut, I will maintain that Bush is The WORST President EVER!!!
Comment by Bush_is_Moron — July 25, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
He’s taken more vacation than any other president, thank god he was too, or we might be in worse shape.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:45 pmYet another persona for our demented Mr. Pee. Get help boy.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:46 pmUntil someone can point to even ONE positive accomplishment made by this preznut, I will maintain that Bush is The WORST President EVER!!!
Comment by Bush_is_Moron — July 25, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
You beat me to it WaltTheMan.
Bush has ripped the cloak off of the Repugnicunts and wakened a lot of sleeping Americans to the reality of the right wing freaks. For that silver lining we should be grateful, too bad we had to sacrifice so many men and women (ours and Iraqis) along the way.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:48 pmhide your high schoolers – military recruiters lie more, and more effectively, than used car salesmen
July 25th, 2007 at 1:58 pmSgt Higgins -
In your mind, how long will it take to rebuild the Army after this Clusterf(ck is over? —– My opinion? 3-5 years, tops. Americans tend to have very short memories. We re-deploy, Lindsey Lohan or Paris hilton or both end up in jail, and this’ll all be a bad, yet quickly fading memory.
I mean not only in equipment —- 1 to 2 years
but in the ranks as well? — a little longer. If nothing else, to boost troop strength, once we’re out of Iraq, some of that money WILL go into recruitment and retention bonuses. Money talks.
And how long do you think the damage will take to be repaired? —- I just spoke of rebuilding, what damage are you referring to? Not denying there is damage, just asking that you be a little more specific.
I was in Vietnam, and it took quite a while for all that to shake out. —- I’m not convinced it ever did shake out. But it does tend to be relegated to the back of the mind the longer ago it happened. The next generation won’t know what we’re talking about when we mention this war to them. It’ll be something they read about, not experience.
Comment by upside00
July 25th, 2007 at 2:00 pmWho wants to volunteer for a suicide mission for the meat grinder that is Iraq?
July 25th, 2007 at 2:05 pmGranada = Good
Vietnam = Bad
Sad state of morals.
Comment by Juan
You hit on an important conflict Juan. Granada was the first, modern, war staged for political reasons. Reagan needed to puff his chest out about something after he cut and ran out of Lebonen when the Marine barracks was blown up (with a car bomb, jeez don’t republicans ever learn?). IT worked, the mindless flag-wavers cheered, Reagan got his macho strut and then bush 1 double-crossed his buddy Noriega in Panama, and had his little war, then upped the ante and suckered punched his buddy Saddam. So bush 2 comes in and manages to lose 2 wars. the boy won’t be able to find his ass when he’s perpwalked with is hand cuffed behind his ass.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:08 pmComment by SGT Higgins — July 25, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Great info. Thanks, Sarge.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:09 pmI don’t really think the drop in recruiting comes from a lack of recruiters. It might just have something to do with the idea of being sent to fight (and possibly get killed) in a never-ending quagmire, being subject to a back-door draft when it’s time to go home and there are no replacements, not getting sufficient stateside duty in between foreign deployments, getting issued weapons that jam, not getting issued body armor, and having to drive insufficiently fortified vehicles over landmines.
Yeah — let’s just see how this “surge” of recruiters works out. Swampland doesn’t always sell better just because more people are selling it.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:09 pmMaybe now Chris Vucovich will put his money where his big mouth is… though I doubt it.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:10 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9prW8m5SOOw
Something is wrong with this picture. With all the support the GOP has in staying the course in Iraq and even some bloggers who cheer the GOP and Bush Administration. Why haven’t these strong supporters joined the military. Sounds alot like Bush/Cheney policy of send others I can’t go. Bush had Daddy get him out of serving, Cheney used the 5 deferment. Other candidates who were in the draft like Mitt had their Daddy get them out. So are we now a country that gives lip service for serving in the military with just a don’t ask a Republican to go. Hundreds of brave young soldiers die every month in the Iraq civil war. Does anyone really care about the lives of our troops or is the battle cry now send anyone but me because I’m a Republican.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:13 pmWhy is ‘mikey r’ a super c*nt?
Comment by Lefty Cat Scan — July 25, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thanks for the affirmation, C**T V1. I think you should know that every time you post something as moronic and ad hominem as this, it gives me great satisfaction that a simple little trick on my part got you to cut-and-run from your old moniker and choose a new one.
Thanks for making my day.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
July 25th, 2007 at 2:13 pmComment by bobwurst
You said it perfectly. There are little wars made to exploit our chauvinism. I guess all 6000 soldiers in Granada fighting Cuban railroad workers got their Purple Hearts, right?
But this is not just a US thing…it has been done since the beginning of civilization.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:17 pmComment by mikey r — July 25, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
I triggered yet another stupid and baseless comment by Mykee JuNiOr.
Again, why is ‘mikey r’ the ultimate c*nt?
Why is ‘mykee r’ an illegal immigrant-humping lefty?
July 25th, 2007 at 2:17 pmComment by mikey r — July 25, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
Why is ‘mikey r’ an islamophile?
July 25th, 2007 at 2:18 pmGreat info. Thanks, Sarge.
Comment by Zehava
Z, (?) =)
July 25th, 2007 at 2:22 pmMy privilege.
Until someone can point to even ONE positive accomplishment made by this preznut, I will maintain that Bush is The WORST President EVER!!!
Comment by Bush_is_Moron — July 25, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
It all depends on what you consider an “accomplishment”. The Repubs (and the trolls here) point to his granting tax cuts to the rich, getting prescription drug coverage for Medicare recipients, his battling the “war on terra”, and appointing Alito and Roberts to the Supreme Court.
Personally, I believe that the tax cuts have only served to drive our country into deeper debt, appointing Alito and Roberts to the SCOTUS will set back many of the hard-won civil rights victories of the past few decades, and the WOT is nothing but a PR stunt.
And as far as the drug coverage goes — I’m glad the elderly are getting something, which was way too long in coming. But the way it was done still has some of our senior citizens’ heads spinning.
Nope — I guess I can’t really come up with anything positive, either.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:22 pmComment by Zehava — July 25, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Looky, it’s another libetroll to the TP collection.
Comment by Lefty Cat Scan — July 25, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
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No, L.C.S.,
That’s someone you know…
July 25th, 2007 at 2:22 pmComment by Thrasymachos — July 25, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
(Z)
(O)
(O)
(E)
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Gee….I can’t seem to recall the final letter. Mr. Thrasynachos, could you give me a hint?
July 25th, 2007 at 2:27 pmcould you give me a hint?
Comment by Lefty Cat Scan — July 25, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
July 25th, 2007 at 2:28 pm————————————–
Why?
Wow, thats a personal liberal fixation by our(s) troll(s).
mmmm…guess there were not the most popular kids in the sandbox of the kindergarten.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:29 pmLCS,
You can call me “Thras”
July 25th, 2007 at 2:29 pmWow, thats a personal liberal fixation by our(s) troll(s).
mmmm…guess there were not the most popular kids in the sandbox of the kindergarten.
Comment by Juan C — July 25, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
Why the past tense, Juan C? Whnat makes you think they’ve gotten out of kindergarten?
July 25th, 2007 at 2:31 pm“the Army has ordered 1,106 soldiers, former recruiters, away from their current assignments..”
So what units are they shortchanging to fill these new-found billets?
July 25th, 2007 at 2:31 pmI bristle every time I see the reserves’ recruiting commercial of a young African American telling his parents that he wants to join up so that he’ll get good Army training. **AND** he’ll get to study at home until he’s needed.
With the shortage and stop-loss measures, just how long will it be till he’s called up ?
July 25th, 2007 at 2:40 pm“I’m not convinced it ever did shake out. But it does tend to be relegated to the back of the mind the longer ago it happened. The next generation won’t know what we’re talking about when we mention this war to them. It’ll be something they read about, not experience.”
Comment by upside00
What “next generation”? It’s obvious that the generation perpetuating the idiocy in Iraq has already forgotten the lessons learned from Vietnam. And they’re the Vietnam generation! (Hmmmm…maybe it IS something they should have “experienced” instead of “read about”)
July 25th, 2007 at 2:59 pmWith the shortage and stop-loss measures, just how long will it be till he’s called up ?
Comment by MapleStreet
18 seconds….give or take.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:02 pmTrolls,
Why are you cowards not over in Iraq fighting?
Does your mom know she raised such a piece of sh!t coward?
When the islamists take over the world, you’ll have no one to blame but yourself. while your ugly ass mom is wearing her Burka at 11Am prayer, you can change your own diapers this time.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:03 pm18 seconds….give or take.
Comment by SGT Higgins — July 25, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
I was thinking “Yesterday.” :)
July 25th, 2007 at 3:04 pmWith the shortage and stop-loss measures, just how long will it be till he’s called up ?
Comment by MapleStreet — July 25, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
You could time that with a sport stop watch.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:05 pmComment by Jihad Jesus — July 25, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
That’s a loony lefty talking-point, you slimy terrorist.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:12 pm(Hmmmm…maybe it IS something they should have “experienced†instead of “read aboutâ€)
Comment by missmolly
Touche’
July 25th, 2007 at 3:25 pmComment by Jihad Jesus — July 25, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
Again, look at this man’s words.
This dink is a terrorist. The FBI is watching you, sir….
Keep the lefty talking points coming. Idiot.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:29 pmComment by Jihad Jesus — July 25, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
The FBI would never lock me up over some crazy Jihad lefty (as you admit you are one).
Your words are of heavy concern, Mister. Not good for you….
Thank you for your criminal lefty talking-points.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:58 pmThank you for your criminal lefty talking-points.
Comment by Lefty Cat Scan — July 25, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
Oh, I see poor little C**T V1 has found a new boogeyman to insult from the safety of his keybord.
What a silly little C**T.
July 25th, 2007 at 4:05 pmComment by mikey r — July 25, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Don’t you have somewhere to go STFU?
Really, ‘mikey r’, JuNiOr, you’re not leaving a dent. Not even close.
July 25th, 2007 at 4:17 pm‘mikey r’ is back from sucking another round of Muslims. They really needed their fix, and ‘mikey r’ happily provided it to them.
Run along, ultra c*nt.
July 25th, 2007 at 4:19 pmOh, I see poor little C**T V1 has found a new boogeyman to insult from the safety of his keybord.
Comment by mikey r — July 25, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
And you’re not exactly looking for trouble behind the sanctity of your computer screen?
This is too easy.
July 25th, 2007 at 4:23 pmBy the way, C**T, why don’t you call yourself “C**T V1″ anymore?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 25th, 2007 at 4:36 pmA recruiter hangs out at a bar I go to. A real nice guy who I doubted would have any trouble talking people into signing up.
So, I asked him if he did. He said he had no problem at all finding people who wanted to sign up, There were plenty of them. He said his problem was that they were too stupid to pass the tests. He pointed to his head and said there are plenty of ignorant people who wanted to join but since they couldn’t pass the tests he wasted a lot of time.
July 25th, 2007 at 9:33 pmJihad,
What are you trying to tell us? Spit it out (oops, my bad) your vocaulary overwhelms me!
Would you even know what to do with one?
Get a grip, take that plank out of your ass. Your head is going to explode.
July 25th, 2007 at 9:33 pmWell, I hope our military recruiters are aware that their best source of potential soldiers are the Young Republicans, found in campuses across the nation fervently pounding their chests and sounding their battle cries. Of course, what with so many fundamentalist Republicans enlisted, the military may want to rethink their policy towards gays and be more inclusive. — As one never knows when those Christian conservatives will come running out of the closet.
July 25th, 2007 at 10:39 pmThe army is “having significant difficulties getting new recruits because of the unpopularity of the Iraq War.â€
But 30% of the voters should be volunteering, shouldn’t they? There should be plenty of able-bodied Bush supporters queued up outside the enlistment offices ready to sacrifice themselves for… whatever it is they believe this war is for.
July 26th, 2007 at 5:43 amOnce again this is thinking and problem resolution is way off base on the part of the Recruiting Command. The problem does NOT lie in not enough recruiters to do the job. The problem lies in what the Bush Administration has wrought upon this country and the nefarious means they have used to achieve that end. People realize they have been lied to. People realize they have deceived. People realize too many of our sons and daughters by an administration, abetted by their stooges in Congress, that doesn’t give a damn about justice, law and order and doing the morally correct thing.
Until we have a government that functions for the people, by the people, and of the people, the people will continue to resist by any means of civil disobedience they can. This refusal to allow their sons and daughters to be sacrificed on the Altar of Mammon erected by Bush is just one form of civil disobedience that We, the People can undertake when we have a Congress refuses to put the good of the country first.
Party loyalty over loyalty to our country is always a losing proposition — particularly when it is predicated upon lies, deceit and arrogance.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:41 amThat’s right, call them all back. Tell them how to spin more lies to highschool kids, make false promises to other young adults and get their signatures.
The war is illegal.
The war has been run horribly.
The soldiers in the field are denied adequate equipment.
The veterans are denied benefits.
Tours of duty are endlessly extended.
In the words of Dick Cheney — Bush, “go f**k yourself.
July 26th, 2007 at 2:24 pm