I’m not going to detail the “fruits” of Chimpy’s reign…if you haven’t been paying enough attention to realize what this man has been doing to our country and the world, I’m not going to do your thinking for you.

As for your request for me to substantiate my claim that Chimpy has claimed that God tells him to do stuff, that’s an entirely reasonable request, and here is your answer:

“God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them, and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East.

-Chimpy’s exact words.

The leader of the free world, who commands the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet, hears voices in his head, and does what they tell him to do.

He’s either a false prophet, or he’s very ill. Either way, he has no business in the Oval Office.

I think you mistook my vitriol against Bush’s abuse of his religion as a slam for all Christians, —- Well, as a slam against Christianity, at least. And let’s face it, when people start hearing the voice of God telling them to do something, like feed the hungry, or help the homeless, that’s fine, I guess, with the secular folks. But when they start telling people that the voice has instructed them to kill a bunch of people, that is too easy for the secular to point at and laugh. And with good reason.
and that’s not what I intended. — My apologies. I didn’t intend to take your comment out of context.

Comment by nanlichi

But you knew that all along! I think you mistook my vitriol against Bush’s abuse of his religion as a slam for all Christians, and that’s not what I intended.

I stand corrected. he is a nut.

I made the suggestion that you contact your local Christian church on the outside chance that you or anyone reading this thread actually had an interest. I’ve seen the savage responses that Christians receive from the good folks on this site. There are people with whom I will engage in serious discussions of Chrisitanity, even non-believers. But those folks are certainly not here. ;)

Well, you suddenly get this massive sense of superiority, and lose all sense of other people mattering. In essence, you go from being a perfectly reasonable human being, into being a smug, self righteous jackass who thinks he has all of the answers because he heard a voice in his head tell him so. (Not to be confused with the virtually identicle effects of cocain.)

You know the voice is God, because that voice, oddly enough, never actually disagrees with you. No “Don’t kill those people who welcomed you into the promised land, offered you brides among their people, but have different skin colours” if you are a racist.

You get the full on “Go out and commit genocide, kill the buggers off. All of them. And if you miss one I will be seriously cross.” (AKA: How Saul’s line lost their claim to the rulership of the Jews.)

Comment by dbadass — July 25, 2007 @ 12:45 pm

Some Christians believe there is no such thing as a lost cause. Others disagree. Feel free to go to a mosque or synagogue. Couldn’t hurt you. Well, that’s not entirely true. You might be in danger at some mosques. You might want to see where they stand on terrorism and infidels before ya visit them. ;)

Comment by upright left — July 25, 2007 @ 12:38 pm

What’s that suppose to mean? Anyway there’s a reason it is called faith rather than fact. Why shouldn’t I call my local synagogue or mosque?

Comment by dbadass — July 25, 2007 @ 12:29 pm

Some people are worth the explanation, others aren’t. Sorry, buddy. Call your local Christian church. They will be glad to explain it, even to you. ;)

Nabil Shaath says: “President Bush said to all of us: ‘I’m driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, “George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.” And I did, and then God would tell me, “George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …” And I did. And now, again, I feel God’s words coming to me, “Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.” And by God I’m gonna do it.’”

Bush believes he was called by God to lead the nation at this time, says Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a close friend who talks with Bush every day.

Bush said to James Robinson: ‘I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can’t explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen… I know it won’t be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.’”

Comment by upright left — July 25, 2007 @ 12:27 pm

How do you know?

There’s only one, bud. ;)

I think you’ve got that a little mixed up. Do many Gods speak to polytheistic belivers. Maybe they have a partyline?

Comment by TripMaster Monkey

You’re not giving me much to interact with. Contrary to popular belief, I don’t hang on every word that comes out of Bush’s mouth. I don’t remember him saying that God tells him to do specific things—Do you remember what those things were? Also, could you be specific about his fruits?

If Christians had to read the Bible you wouldn’t have as many of them.

Things are never black and white, and of course it’s my opinion. I could have been more logically consistent. Let me try again.

Here are some facts: Bush has said on several occasions that God told him to fight in Iraq. Bush has also said, long before he was adjudicated pResident, that he wanted to be remembered as a “War President”.

My point is that only Boy George knows the whole reason we are fighting in Iraq, and we may never know.

Was it solely the will of God as interpreted by Bush?
Was it because he wanted to be remembered as a War President?
Was it because he wanted to show Daddy that he could be someone?
Was it because he wanted to be more than the pathetic loser he had always been?
Was he convinced by the neocons in his administration that it was the right thing to do?
Was it a cocktail mix of several factors?

I am just saying that Bush’s War has a religious taint to it that can’t be denied. And his supporters are almost all Christians.

Again, not all Christians support Bush, but all (to a great degree) of Bush supporters are Christian. It’s not right to despise all Christians as Bush supporters, but I do despise all Bush supporters as enablers and killers.

Exactly! ;)