Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) said today that he will soon propose legislation that calls for troop withdrawals from Iraq to begin in November and take about a year to complete. “This is big time,” Murtha told reporters of the upcoming war debate in September. “When you get to September, this is history. This is when we’re going to have a real confrontation with the president trying to work things out.”
UPDATE: More from Murtha:
“I’m hearing signals. They (Republicans) are trying to work out a deal where we leave 70,000 troops over there … That’s the White House telling them to do that, I’m convinced,” he told reporters.
Good luck – we all know the Bushies will veto anything that limits the amount of Iraqi and soldiers blood that they can bathe in.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:44 pmAccording to Murtha, the dems have not had a real confrontation with the President yet? “DO NOTHING CONGRESS 101″
July 25th, 2007 at 3:48 pmWhere’s the troll that claimed Murtha wasn’t interested in working on ending the war anymore the other day?
July 25th, 2007 at 3:48 pmOT
Here is another way Bush is fu*king this country.
From Crooks and Liars.
Nonny Mouse Goes Down Under
July 25th, 2007 at 3:49 pm“DO NOTHING CONGRESS 101″
Comment by Roger_Roger — July 25, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
I am not sure why you brought up the 110 Congress in a post about Murtha, but there is a real disconnect with your post. but, then again, when isn’t there a disconnect with you and everything.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI thought we were going to have a “real confrontation” with the president right after we took control of the House and Senate?? Maybe I misread that in our script. Yawn.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:53 pm“When you get to September, this is history. This is when we’re going to have a real confrontation with the president trying to work things out.â€
I’m encouraged….but not holding my breath. He’s already built a trap-door escape in talking about it already:
we’re going to have a real confrontation with the president —-That probably turned some heads.
trying to work things out.†—- What? Wait a second, that sounds like capitulation and/or negotiation. What happened to the ‘real confrontation’?
Great idea John, but you gotta see it through.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:55 pmWhat does September have to do with anything? Sure the pukes said “Wait until September!”, but that was three months ago. What we are looking at is the rolling six months, just give it six more months and things will be better.
Until the petulant, cowardly punk is out of office, along with the rest of the Repugnicunts. Then they will whine that we were winning the war but the weak Democrats gave up the fight.
And how many more lives and limbs will be sacrificed to that little man’s ego? Come on Bush, show the world you are at least as strong a leader as Adolf. Pull that trigger buddy!
Double dare you.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:56 pmAnd unfortunately, things will not work out by “trying to work things out”. The only thing that will work out is impeachment or not impeachment.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:56 pmwhy wait?!?!?!
July 25th, 2007 at 3:58 pmI thought there weren’t enough votes for redeployment.
And I thought there weren’t enough votes for impeachment either?
Did something change?
July 25th, 2007 at 4:01 pm4 / Spudge Boy – thanks for that link
That was a good read , makes me want to Avoid travelling anywhere near the US
July 25th, 2007 at 4:01 pmSeptember will come and go, and everybody who said “wait until September” will develop amnesia.
The only thing that will make September an attractive time to evaluate our Iraq situation will be a terrorist attack in this country in August. Which scares me — the Bushies need one so badly.
July 25th, 2007 at 4:03 pmDoes this apply also to contractors…?
July 25th, 2007 at 4:03 pmFrom a psychological perspective, the Bush administration promoted the misguided and destructive war in Iraq by targeting five core concerns that often govern our lives–concerns about vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. Looking ahead to September and beyond, the continuing occupation of Iraq–or an attack on Iran–will likely be sold to us in much the same way. I examine these warmongering appeals–and how to counter them–in a 10-minute YouTube video entitled “Resisting the Drums of War” available for viewing at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81UKnb5zJbM.
July 25th, 2007 at 4:11 pmin December when the UN mandate runs out, and the Iraqi Parliment has the right to vote on whether US troops stay or go, NOT just Maliki
the way things are with the Iraqis at the moment, US troops will be asked to leave
in order to stay – troop levels will have to be reduced to 70,000
July 25th, 2007 at 4:12 pmDoes he think this will get him past the indictments pending against him?
July 25th, 2007 at 4:19 pmwe want them out now, you aren’t listening, you are fired
Mr. President, would you like some cheese with that whine?
July 25th, 2007 at 4:32 pmWhat? Murtha again? What he should do is make more of his spurious accusations that our troops are murdering Iraqis, except this time blame all 150,000 of them.
They can then be arrested, brought home, thrown in prison and finally executed. Problem solved, the troops are out of Iraq.
July 25th, 2007 at 4:43 pmCome on Murtha, have another meltdown about your fellow Marines killing everyone in sight.
Hey spuzzboy, how you doing today? Spit on any soldiers this morning?
July 25th, 2007 at 4:46 pmMethinks the “redeployment” should consist of incumbent politicians and boot-licking pentagon clowns (and their families) sent to that hellhole to replace our troops, one for one.
July 25th, 2007 at 5:04 pmThat’s fair, isn’t it?
Bush at this point reminds me of Steve Martin at the end of the movie ‘The Jerk’.
July 25th, 2007 at 5:04 pmAll he needs is his legacy, 70,000 troops still in harms way, Mrs Nussbaum’s credit card, …
If Murthas manages to have his bill passed by the House, then Bush will veto it and bloggers here will again claim that we have a “Do Nothing Congress.”
July 25th, 2007 at 6:32 pmWe can withdraw all the troops and there would still be 150,000 contracted mercenaries in Iraq.
July 25th, 2007 at 7:01 pmPeople seldom mention that the mercenaries in Iraq outnumber the enlisted.
Comment by Guy Fawkes — July 25, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
I’ve noticed that about bloggers too.
July 25th, 2007 at 7:39 pmIf Murthas manages to have his bill passed by the House, then Bush will veto it and bloggers here will again claim that we have a “Do Nothing Congress.â€
Comment by Guy Fawkes
Doesn’t it also have to get passed by the Senate before it goes to Bush? Just asking…
July 25th, 2007 at 8:02 pmWhat? Murtha again? What he should do is make more of his spurious accusations that our troops are murdering Iraqis, except this time blame all 150,000 of them.
They can then be arrested, brought home, thrown in prison and finally executed. Problem solved, the troops are out of Iraq.
Comment by CowTown
So irrational and pointless, it kinda defies belief.
July 25th, 2007 at 8:03 pmWhat? Murtha again? What he should do is make more of his spurious accusations that our troops are murdering Iraqis, except this time blame all 150,000 of them.
They can then be arrested, brought home, thrown in prison and finally executed. Problem solved, the troops are out of Iraq.
Comment by CowTown
So irrational and pointless, it kinda defies belief.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 25, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
True, just like this:
Methinks the “redeployment†should consist of incumbent politicians and boot-licking pentagon clowns (and their families) sent to that hellhole to replace our troops, one for one.
That’s fair, isn’t it?
Comment by celtic cynic — July 25, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
We need better posters at Tp
July 25th, 2007 at 9:01 pm“They (Republicans) are trying to work out a deal where we leave 70,000 troops over there … That’s the White House telling them to do that…”
So, who do you think is telling that to Hillary? The DLC? Or the White House? Is there a difference?
July 25th, 2007 at 9:23 pmSimple question to anyone running for office. Do you want the troops to stay? No dancing just anwser the question.
July 25th, 2007 at 11:12 pm