College students returning to school this fall “will be greeted by steep increases in one of the few items they have been able to buy cheap: birth control. For years, drug companies sold birth-control pills and other contraceptives to university health services at a big discount.” But due to the Deficit Reduction Act, signed by the President last year, drug companies now have a “disincentive” to offer the discounts to college students.
Oh no. They have to pay full price…..the wold will end.
July 26th, 2007 at 5:54 pmIn 1970, at UCSD, it was not offered free. I doubt, seriously, that this will impact unwanted pregnacy. This really is a non-issue TP
July 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmThat’s OK, young Republicans don’t have sex……that is, with humans Baaaa….baaaa
July 26th, 2007 at 5:55 pmThis is disgusting. The govt should be paying for all family planning services including abortion. The Bush Admin has rolled back the rights of women to 1950. After he gets another Court appointment, you better a hanger and a nice alley!
July 26th, 2007 at 6:00 pmLooks like the grass prices will soar next semester!!!
July 26th, 2007 at 6:00 pmI will not stop snitchin’
July 26th, 2007 at 6:04 pm#6 wrong thread, dude.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pmI saw this posted at student health yesterday. I think it’s appalling.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pmDue to the Deficit Reduction Act they have a “disincentiveâ€.
Well, that’s barbaric.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pmTP. Please correct and say “female college students”. Since the burden is on them please give them a little respect.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:07 pmBush wants the female students all barefoot and pregnant. Then their kids used as future cannon fodder in wars to steal OIL like in Iraq.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:08 pmNo problems there they can afford it as soon only families with money will be able to afford to go to college. Now some smart students will form their own company with birth control from Canada or Mexico. As we now know those countries get the medication at 90 % off the regular price. Now all these smart college students will have to recall the pills at a cheaper cost then they can buy in the US. All things will work out just find. Only the poor will be left to have abortions for unwanted babies. Look for the Supreme Court to start jailing minorities that either try to buy birth control pills or those who want an abortion. Those young people with rich families will be protected those who are in the Middle Class or poor will have to go to jail.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:09 pmI guess Bush just wants to increase the number of abortions…
July 26th, 2007 at 6:10 pmComment by Moderate Mary of Maine — July 26, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
I missed how he has blocked or hinder the privilege to vote. An as an adult you have a responsibility to take care of your own birth control needs. This is a personal responsibility. Not the government.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:10 pmSo where’s Mr. Pee gonna get the condoms for his momma?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:10 pmThe Cost of Control
Congress passes on relief from birth control prices; costs rise at college clinics
http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/media/storage/paper410/news/2007/07/19/TopStories/The-Cost.Of.Control-2925220.shtml
“Only two drugs, Ortho Tri-Cyclen Lo and the NuvaRing, don’t have generic counterparts.”
July 26th, 2007 at 6:11 pm—
Guess it’s not the end of the world.
In 1970, at UCSD, it was not offered free. I doubt, seriously, that this will impact unwanted pregnacy. This really is a non-issue TP
Comment by leftcoast
It is 2007….This could be a serious issue for those who can not pay…the wealthy are only allowed family planning?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:12 pmI missed how he has blocked or hinder the privilege to vote.
Comment by Kevin
Yeah, you missed it because she didn’t say it.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:13 pmSo where’s Mr. Pee gonna get the condoms for his momma?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:14 pmHe works at Chuck E. Cheese. They have vending machines filled with XSM condoms
due to the Deficit Reduction Act, signed by the President last year, drug companies now have a “disincentive†to offer the discounts to college students
Ok, 1. don’t get spunkey if you can’t afford a rubber. 2. TPers always complain about the deficit until we try to cut something ESSENTIAL like The Birth Control Pill Price Reduction Act.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:14 pmIt is 2007….This could be a serious issue for those who can not pay…the wealthy are only allowed family planning?
Comment by had enough — July 26, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
How much money does it cost not to have sex? Or at least be smart about it. No one is forcing the students (all adults) to have sex. If they want to have sex they are not bared from getting birth control.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:15 pmAn as an adult you have a responsibility to take care of your own birth control needs. This is a personal responsibility. Not the government.
Comment by Kevin
The students are attempting to take care of their own birth control needs — by going to student health and getting it. I see nothing wrong with lowering the price, if possible. College students aren’t exactly rolling in money, but they are rolling in the hay. That’s reality.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:15 pmHe works at Chuck E. Cheese. They have vending machines filled with XSM condoms
Comment by Glenda Beck — July 26, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
I didn’t mean to imply that Pee himself would use them.
But they are handy to have in his mommas line of work. :)
July 26th, 2007 at 6:16 pmYeah, you missed it because she didn’t say it.
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
The Bush Admin has rolled back the rights of women to 1950.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:16 pmComment by Moderate Mary of Maine — July 26, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Oh my GOD! (sorry for the religious reference-just skip that part, libs). This is a crime and someone, preferably a republican, must be tried, found guilty, hanged, buried, dug-up, shot and reburied!
And to think that the 38th Amendment to the Constitution specifically deals with the government providing free wiener jackets to the populace.
Just another dagger in the heart of FREEDOM!
What do you say, have a march? We can all wear condom costumes and spray Barbasolâ„¢ above our heads.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:20 pmWho cares?
Doesn’t PlannedMurderhood give out free condoms?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:22 pmHow will higher drug prices for students reduce the deficit?
The drug companies kick back to the GOP, not the Treasury.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:23 pmThis is certainly going to put a kink in the one job that liberal college men use to get through school, that of a paid party twink at DFL fundraisers.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:23 pm#20 It is 2007….This could be a serious issue for those who can not pay…the wealthy are only allowed family planning?
Comment by had enough
July 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pmI’m not opposed to assistance but we didn’t have the money then to pay for it. We just managed.
Ok, 1. don’t get spunkey if you can’t afford a rubber. 2. TPers always complain about the deficit until we try to cut something ESSENTIAL like The Birth Control Pill Price Reduction Act.
Yeah, a lot of colleges hand out free rubbers.
Anyway, here are the whining liberals asking for more subsidies, and whining about the Deficit!
July 26th, 2007 at 6:24 pm25: Unfortunately, not to your mom and dad.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:25 pmDoesn’t PlannedMurderhood give out free condoms?
No, its not good for the abortion business. Easier just to have unprotected sex and then waddle in to PMH to take care of the ‘lump of tissue’ that mysteriously appeared in your abdomen a few weeks later.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:26 pmThe Bush Admin has rolled back the rights of women to 1950.
Comment by Moderate Mary of Maine — July 26, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Comment by Kevin
Women could vote in 1950, dingleberry!
July 26th, 2007 at 6:27 pmDoesn’t PlannedMurderhood give out free condoms?
Comment by Mr. President
Any girl who depends on a guy for birth control is called a mother.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:29 pmThis will certainly help advance Bush’s plan to rid the earth of gay men, though now we will have to fund more teams of stormtroopers to spread the AIDS virus at liberal universities.
You hearing this, jay? Your message finally got through to me.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:30 pmAny girl who depends on a guy for birth control is called a mother.
Because girls are somehow unable to carry condoms in their pocketbooks?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:30 pm#16-
It is 2007….This could be a serious issue for those who can not pay…the wealthy are only allowed family planning?
Comment by had enough
July 26th, 2007 at 6:31 pmIn college you better be able to take on the consequences of behavior. We did, and had no more money than today’s students.
Any girl who depends on a guy for birth control is called a mother.
Comment by Zehava
July 26th, 2007 at 6:33 pmAbsolutely correct, coming from a guy who knows his faults.
Women could vote in 1950, dingleberry!
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
What rights has he hindered?
Any girl who depends on a guy for birth control is called a mother.
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
So the women only have babies because they didn’t want to????
July 26th, 2007 at 6:33 pmGood thing that I’m out of College and my Husband shoots blanks.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:33 pmI thank the Lord for the best President ever, George Bush. The President signed an act that would hopefully discourage college students from fornicating. They should spend their idol time studying for exams. During my college days, I joined a university group called Youth for Christ. Most of my dorm mates attended Bible Study, weekly. We held constant prayer vigils for our nation. We did not have time to entertain sexual thoughts. This is why more young adults should attend evangelical colleges like Oral Roberts.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:33 pmGood thing that I’m out of College and my Husband shoots blanks.
Comment by Jeannie See — July 26, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
agreed.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pmAnd any girl who has sex with someone other than her husband is called… …something else.
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
July 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pm——————–
I approve of anything that pisses off Feminists ….
Thanks Goddess Feminists don’t breed.
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July 26th, 2007 at 6:35 pm35: “Depends” is the operative word, numbnuts.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:35 pm40: Do you spend your “idle” time worshipping “idols’?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:36 pmComment by Daryll-
July 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pmDaryll, I’m sorry,but this is so naive. And I’m a Christian and belonged to Campus Crusade and Youth for Christ. You were not listening to well. But, I don’t mean that badly. We need to talk.
Because girls are somehow unable to carry condoms in their pocketbooks?
Comment by m12
That’s not actually depending on the guy, is it? A girl who does that is probably on birth control.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:37 pm46: I am listening to a well or I am listening too well?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:38 pmSo the women only have babies because they didn’t want to????
Comment by Kevin
You’re too stupid to breathe.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:38 pmBTW, my post #42 unintentionally appeared to attribute the comment to Zehava.
That was not the case and I appologize.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:40 pmAnd any girl who has sex with someone other than her husband is called… …something else.
Comment by s
Human? How did humanity survive before the idea of marriage?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:40 pm#43: pssst, I’m a feminist and I have two sons. Where do you people come from?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:41 pm46: I am listening to a well or I am listening too well?
Comment by totwotoo
July 26th, 2007 at 6:41 pmMay you listen to the well of depth.
Thanks Goddess Feminists don’t breed.
Comment by koolmoedee
I’ve been a feminist since I was 12.
I have two sons.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:41 pmDoesn’t PlannedMurderhood give out free condoms?
No, its not good for the abortion business. Easier just to have unprotected sex and then waddle in to PMH to take care of the ‘lump of tissue’ that mysteriously appeared in your abdomen a few weeks later.
Comment by LibTeenie — July 26, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
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Oh yeah!
I forgot.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:41 pmBecause the drug companies just don’t make enough profit…..
July 26th, 2007 at 6:43 pm#43: pssst, I’m a feminist and I have two sons. Where do you people come from?
Comment by Jeannie See
Yay, Jeannie!
We feminists don’t hate men.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:43 pmI’ve been a feminist since I was 12.
I have two sons.
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
You didn’t have them before you were 12, did you? :D
July 26th, 2007 at 6:44 pmOh yeah!
I forgot.
Comment by Mr. President
That’s why girls shouldn’t depend on guys for birth control
July 26th, 2007 at 6:44 pmAny girl who depends on a guy for birth control is called a mother.
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
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Okay.
How does that pertain to my question about PlannedMURDERhood?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:44 pmI’m a feminist and I’m a guy.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:44 pm#43: pssst, I’m a feminist and I have two sons. Where do you people come from?
Comment by Jeannie See
I have a son. And he has been to Iraq already and I don’t want him to leave us. I’ve been to Viet Nam, and I’m glad to be with you, and sad to have left my friends.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:45 pmHuman? How did humanity survive before the idea of marriage?
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Yes, I suppose human was befor marriage. But so was animal.
Now days, we can prefer to act above the animal, or not.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:45 pmThat’s why girls shouldn’t depend on guys for birth control
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Heh.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:45 pmNow days, we can prefer to act above the animal, or not.
Comment by s — July 26, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
I don’t like it when the trolls start talking about “acting” above the animal.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:48 pmI’m a feminist and I’m a guy.
Comment by Egreggious
July 26th, 2007 at 6:48 pmI respect your openess. I like women too. But, I’m also aware of the stats. They are a hell of lot smarter than us guys.
#40 Daryll…your idiotic post reminded me of a joke. What do you call two queers named Bob?
Oral Roberts
July 26th, 2007 at 6:49 pmThey are a hell of lot smarter than us guys.
Comment by leftcoast — July 26, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
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Wow.
Who would have thought? A sexist remark on TP.
“Progressive” indeed.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:50 pmThat’s not actually depending on the guy, is it? A girl who does that is probably on birth control.
And given that PP hands them out for free, please explain how college girls who afford all that booze can’t afford to take osme free rubbers.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:50 pmYou didn’t have them before you were 12, did you? :D
Comment by Egreggious
A little after. :)
July 26th, 2007 at 6:51 pm#69 m12
Because then there wouldn’t be cause for moral outrage!
July 26th, 2007 at 6:52 pmI’m a feminist and I’m a guy.
Comment by Egreggious — July 26, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Girls love feminist guys.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:52 pmI don’t like it when the trolls start talking about “acting†above the animal.
Comment by Egreggious — July 26, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
No Egreggious. I guess you prefer acting below the animal.
Oink oink oink….
July 26th, 2007 at 6:53 pmI’m a feminist and I’m a guy.
Comment by Egreggious — July 26, 2007 @ 6:44 pm
Hairy girls love feminist guys.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:54 pmYes, I suppose human was befor marriage. But so was animal.
Now days, we can prefer to act above the animal, or not.
Comment by s — July 26, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Why do you equate sex with being animalistic?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:54 pmAnd given that PP hands them out for free, please explain how college girls who afford all that booze can’t afford to take osme free rubbers.
Comment by m12
Ridiculous strawman.
Dismissed.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:55 pmI respect your openess. I like women too. But, I’m also aware of the stats. They are a hell of lot smarter than us guys.
Looking at Margaret Thatcher and Edwards, Obama, and Kucinich, I can see how you come to that conclusion!
July 26th, 2007 at 6:55 pmThey are a hell of lot smarter than us guys.
Comment by leftcoast — July 26, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
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Wow.
Who would have thought? A sexist remark on TP.
“Progressive†indeed.
Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 6:50 pm
I second that sexist remark. Sorry to sully TP’s PC threads.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:56 pmMy guess would be that the drug companies are firing a shot over the bow of the public. Screw with our corporate welfare and we will make you pay.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:56 pmComment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
Foolish liberal.
Dismissed.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:56 pmMr President,
Assuming you’ve had sex, if a girl told you she was on birth control would you then not wear a condom?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:57 pmThey are a hell of lot smarter than us guys.
Comment by leftcoast — July 26, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
Women and men have different areas of strength regarding intelligence, I wouldn’t say we’re any smarter. Maybe just more organized. :)
July 26th, 2007 at 6:58 pmMy guess would be that the drug companies are firing a shot over the bow of the public. Screw with our corporate welfare and we will make you pay.
Hmm? By pushing unjustified subsidies on these pills, you guys are pushing the corporate welfare!
July 26th, 2007 at 6:59 pmHairy girls love feminist guys.
Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 6:54 pm
Much wisdom from the hairless one.
But don’t worry, sweetie, puberty’s just around the corner.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:59 pmMr President,
Assuming you’ve had sex, if a girl told you she was on birth control would you then not wear a condom?
Comment by Zehava
You’re asking for an incredible imaginative stretch, Z. Blow-up dolls never use birth control.
July 26th, 2007 at 6:59 pmZ,
all I’m going to say is, I’m a derrrrrty dog.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:00 pmErratum: post #86) “dog” should be “dawg”
July 26th, 2007 at 7:01 pmall I’m going to say is, I’m a derrrrrty dog.
Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Thereby explaining s’s animal reference.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:01 pmZ,
all I’m going to say is, I’m a derrrrrty dog.
Comment by Mr. President
It’s OK to wash the dolls, PiPPy. Just don’t use any sharp objects.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:01 pmIf they can afford the books, the rest is easy.
Do you think alcohol consumption on campus has anything to do with unwanted buns in the oven? How about Fraternities?
July 26th, 2007 at 7:02 pmCollege students returning to school this fall “will be greeted by steep increases in … birth control.
this started the middle of last year for my daughter at UofI…
but even before that, she would tell of using different kinds…
as different brands came on the market, the school would
pass them out… after a while, the girls had to pay…
it was a marketing tool to get the product out there…
doesn’t seem like a “disincentive†to me…
on the plus side – she was able to better discern which
July 26th, 2007 at 7:03 pmtype was more suited to her needs and physiology…
…
Is anybody interested in knowing exactly what happened? Here it is:
The law did not state that universities should stop getting low prices, and birth control was not singled out for special treatment. What the DRA did was try to close a perceived loophole in the law that governs pharmaceutical pricing to the government, by which manufacturers are permitted to exempt from determining their lowest or “best” price sales of drugs that were provided at nominal pricing. Normally, mfrs have to give their best price to the state, but it was thought that sales to charitable organizations would be adversely affected if nominal pricing were considered to be the best price. However, the prior law had no limit on who could receive nominal pricing, and although it was intended to benefit charities, there were a few cases in which nominal pricing was made to a commercial entity as a way of avoiding having to give a comparably low price to the government. What the law did was to define the types of organizations that were intended to benefit from nominal pricing, mostly charities. There’s a long list but student health services don’t really fit into any of them. So manufacturers have stopped offering them nominal pricing. It was an unintended consequence.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:04 pmDo you think alcohol consumption on campus has anything to do with unwanted buns in the oven? How about Fraternities?
Comment by ForTruth — July 26, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
yes… yes… duh
July 26th, 2007 at 7:05 pm:-)
Z,
all I’m going to say is, I’m a derrrrrty dog.
Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Virgin.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:07 pmYou’re asking for an incredible imaginative stretch, Z. Blow-up dolls never use birth control.
Comment by gummitch
Yes, he couldn’t even make up a story. *snort*
July 26th, 2007 at 7:08 pmBabs, why did you have to ruin a perfectly good thread that was in the process of being ruined by those of us who didnt do any research and instead started wailing like banshees?
July 26th, 2007 at 7:08 pmIt’s OK to wash the dolls, PiPPy. Just don’t use any sharp objects.
Could have used that information ten minutes ago. Thanks for nothin’.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:09 pmSo manufacturers have stopped offering them nominal pricing. It was an unintended consequence.
Comment by Barbara
Thanks for the info, Barbara. However, the end result is still the same.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:10 pmWomen and men have different areas of strength regarding intelligence, I wouldn’t say we’re any smarter. Maybe just more organized. :)
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
That’s why we let you take care of the kitchen.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:11 pmVirgin.
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
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ummm… okay.
Anyway, I answered your question. Did you have a follow up, or was it just a set-up for your witty “insult”?
July 26th, 2007 at 7:13 pmBush attempt to force reduction in deficit:
TP decries the cut to Big Pharmaceuticals
Odd.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:17 pmummm… okay.
Anyway, I answered your question. Did you have a follow up, or was it just a set-up for your witty “insult�
Comment by Mr. President
You did not answer my question.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:37 pmThat’s why we let you take care of the kitchen.
Comment by s — July 26, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
That’s why we let you take care of the trash, and the dog shit in the yard.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:39 pmYou did not answer my question.
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
July 26th, 2007 at 7:46 pm———————————
Well, [I know, it's stupid] but I prefer not to use them.
Well, [I know, it’s stupid] but I prefer not to use them.
Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
Girls lie.
Birth control fails.
Roll the dice, Daddy.
July 26th, 2007 at 7:54 pmBush attempt to force reduction in deficit:
TP decries the cut to Big Pharmaceuticals
Odd.
Still odd.
July 26th, 2007 at 8:28 pmRoll the dice, Daddy.
Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:54 pm
July 26th, 2007 at 8:49 pm——————————————————
I’ll roll the dice with you any day, mommy.
I’ll roll the dice with you any day, mommy.
Comment by Mr. President
Dream on….
July 26th, 2007 at 8:54 pmBush attempt to force reduction in deficit:
TP decries the cut to Big Pharmaceuticals
Odd.
Still odd.
Comment by s — July 26, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Third submission… … we all know that means trolls win.
July 26th, 2007 at 10:01 pmBush attempt to force reduction in deficit:
TP decries the cut to Big Pharmaceuticals
Odd.
Still odd.
Comment by s — July 26, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Third submission… … we all know that means trolls win.
Comment by s — July 26, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
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Indeed. Trolls win.
July 26th, 2007 at 10:43 pmHey!
That’s better.
July 26th, 2007 at 10:43 pms
July 27th, 2007 at 12:22 amOff topic. This is a story that every American must see.
July 27th, 2007 at 12:55 amhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/26/AR2007072602025.html
Oh, all that, and we can’t spend an incredibly minuscule sum each year to make sure that all of our women have complete reproductive control over their bodies? You know, without relying on men to prevent pregnancy?
July 27th, 2007 at 1:31 amMr. President
July 27th, 2007 at 1:40 amKids in college shouldnt be focusing on sex but rather on their studies. No wonder that a college graduate from Mexico, Cuba, Canada and just about every other european country is worth more than a american college graduate.
July 27th, 2007 at 2:15 pm