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Fox News On Arabic Culture School: ‘Al Qaeda Is Coming Soon To A Classroom Near You’»

Yesterday, Fox News’ Hannity & Colmes did a segment asking if the Khalil Gibran International Academy, the first New York City public school “dedicated to the study of the Arabic language and culture,” is “a breeding ground for radicals.”

As Fox rolled footage of the 9/11 attacks, Sean Hannity asked if the New York Board of Education was “blurring the line between the separation of church and state” by using “tax dollars to fund an all Muslim school. ” After displaying banners with “Islam 101?” and “Funding Fatwa?,” Alan Colmes introduced the segment by saying, “Coming soon to a classroom near you, Al Qaeda!” Watch it:

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In reality, the school is open to “students of all racial and ethnic background,” not just Muslims, and its curriculum is “not religion-based.” According to the New York Board of Education, the academy will offer “a standard college preparatory curriculum, with separate Arabic language instruction,” and special emphasis on the “the history and contributions of the Arab people.”

Hannity also suggested that instruction of reading and writing should precede lessons in Arabic culture and history. “Once we teach kids to read, write and math then we can expand out?” But like the more than 60 other dual-language New York public schools, which “focus on cultures as diverse as Creole and Chinese and Russian,” the Khalil Gibran International Academy will teach Arabic culture while simultaneously preparing students for the “rigorous New York State Regents Examinations.” As the National Association for Bilingual Education points out, “English-speaking students who learn a second language routinely do better in school and get better jobs.”

And if the above segment is any indication, then the school’s mission, to “embrace of New York City’s growing Arab population and of internationalism,” and dispel “the stereotypes” of Arab Americans, is all too relevant.

(HT: News Hounds and Media Matters)

Igor Volsky

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447 Responses to “Fox News On Arabic Culture School: ‘Al Qaeda Is Coming Soon To A Classroom Near You’”


  1. Troll Says:

    Nothing like training the Islamofascist at home. Then we can have another civil war too.


  2. Mr. President Says:

    Good.

    FOX should inform the American people about the Arab agenda.


  3. Mr. President Says:

    #s 1,2

    Nice work, fellas!


  4. B Man Says:

    Wow…. this happened a few days ago when Colmes read off the prompter that Biden’s strategy was “cut and run” and like this, followed it up with “Well I wouldn’t call it that.”


  5. Mr. President Says:

    Hell,

    #3,

    you too, nice work!


  6. bilbobaggins Says:

    Now that’s a smart idea. Discourage a school that will be teaching people the language of the people we are supposed to hate. That way we will never be able to talk to them and since we won’t be able to talk to them, we won’t ever be able to problem solve. That will leave no alternatives other than war. It’s the Republican way.


  7. B Man Says:

    I don’t think some of the commenters click the links to get the whole picture…


  8. leftcoast Says:

    The camps are here in San Diego; I do not think it is correct. But, In fact I am in favor of public schools being in standard uniforms. I know most here will be against it ( remember, I am aware of our rights), but I think it will go a long ways to discipline and less gang problems.


  9. Troll Says:

    This is wrong. They will exclude non-arab speeking students. That is racist.

    I thought you “progressives” were all about seperation of church and state?


  10. CT Scan Says:

    A brand new nation of Arab supremacy, fostered by lefty cruds.

    According the left, we shouldn’t be in the middle of a civil war in Iraq. Instead, we should be channelling our energy to dealing with the one they’re seeking to create here.


  11. Mr. President Says:

    BTW - Khalil Gibran is an excellent author.


  12. Troll Says:

    Comment by bilbobaggins — July 26, 2007 @ 6:26 pm

    Plllease. What a foolish arguement. Offer arabic as an alternative to spanish in a regular public school if this is yopur concern.


  13. Krazny Says:

    Can’t really deny the school though, since a number of other cultures receive similar funding. I actually think, that if someone wants their child in a specific cultural type school it should be private, and not publicly funded. Just my thoughts.


  14. Mr. President Says:

    Comment by Troll — July 26, 2007 @ 6:27 pm

    No, it is not rascist. But it will indoctrinate non-Arabs with pro-Muslim propaganda!

    As if there wasn’t enough of that already coming from the Left!!!


  15. Mr. President Says:

    Oops…

    racist, not rascist


  16. WaltinTexas Says:

    #8- I know. It’s like #1, 2, & 3 didn’t even read it. And, I think when we finally have competent leadership (after ‘08), they’ll utilize a few, good, red-blooded Americans that can read and write the language of those that want to harm us all.


  17. Lefty CPA Says:

    How many of the “fanatic right” know who Khalil Gibran was? It is obvious that Sean “drop-out”Hannity doesn’t.

    I don’t know which is worse, the insanity or the ignorance.


  18. Hissyspit Says:

    Where does it say they will exclude non-Arabic “speeking” students?

    Gee, Hannity, much of reading, writing and math we inherited from Arab culture, they’re not necessarily all that separate. But you wouldn’t know that because apparently you’re an idiot, as are some of these other trolls commenting here.


  19. StillGotMyWsticker Says:

    Where does Hannity think alebra comes from?


  20. Mr. President Says:

    Comment by WaltinTexas — July 26, 2007 @ 6:34 pm

    This is about FOX’s coverage of the Arab agenda… how is my comment in post #3 off topic?


  21. StillGotMyWsticker Says:

    Sorry, should have been “algebra”


  22. bobh Says:

    “In reality, the school is open to “students of all racial and ethnic background,” not just Muslims, and its curriculum is “not religion-based.” ”

    iMPLYING THAT MUSLIM IS A ETHNICITY OR A RACE? IDIOCY TO BEGIN WITH.


  23. kestrel9000 Says:

    Notice they changed the common spelling of Kahlil Gibran, author of “The Prophet”, to the more Muslim-y “Khalil”, as in, “Khalil Sheikh Muhammad?”
    As God is my witness, Fox “News” has NO SHAME.


  24. Mr. President Says:

    How many of the “fanatic right” know who Khalil Gibran was?

    I do!


  25. CT Scan Says:

    “English-speaking students who learn a second language routinely do better in school and get better jobs.”

    Lefty’s won’t argue the reverse: “Spanish or Arabic-speaking immigrants learning English routinely do better in school and get better jobs.”

    The only money-making potential to them, apparently, is learning Afghanistanita literature. After all, they’re only living in America.


  26. Brittany Hume Says:

    Hehehehhee,,, al Qaeda are pikers compared to the Neocons


  27. CD Says:

    There’s an entire school in New York dedicated to the study of the Creole language and culture?


  28. kestrel9000 Says:

    CT Scan and Troll: two masturbating idiots who should have their computers taken away by Mommy and Daddy.


  29. Susan K. Says:

    Sorry, I’m more worried about Jesus Camp than an Arabic Culture School.


  30. Troll Says:

    Comment by Lefty CPA — July 26, 2007 @ 6:34 pm

    The same could be asked of the “leftards”. But you know what, it does not matter who Khalil Gibran was. What matters is these schools divert funding away from an already deficient system. They also create division. I agree with krazny the should be private.


  31. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by kestrel9000 — July 26, 2007 @ 6:37 pm

    Oh, looky here. A kooky libecrat dishing out a personal attack. How original.

    *yawn*


  32. Egreggious Says:

    Lefty’s won’t argue the reverse: “Spanish or Arabic-speaking immigrants learning English routinely do better in school and get better jobs.”

    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 6:36 pm

    And here I was thinking I was a Lefty.


  33. bilbobaggins Says:

    “This is wrong. They will exclude non-arab speeking students. That is racist.

    I thought you “progressives” were all about seperation of church and state?

    Comment by Troll “

    Hey Troll, try reading the whole story before you spout off your big mouth. You may (note I say may) be taken a little more seriously if you do. Here’s the part you missed:

    In reality, the school is open to “students of all racial and ethnic background,” not just Muslims, and its curriculum is “not religion-based.” According to the New York Board of Education, the academy will offer “a standard college preparatory curriculum, with separate Arabic language instruction,” and special emphasis on the “the history and contributions of the Arab people.”

    Please tell me where that says they will exclude non-arab speaking students. The school is actually to teach students how to speak the language.


  34. Troll Says:

    Comment by Hissyspit — July 26, 2007 @ 6:35 pm

    Hissy you have been misled the Arabs inherited much that you credit them with.


  35. gummitch Says:

    The trolls are even more stupid than I imagined. It’s the neocons and the trolls who maintain that we are locked into an epic war with Islam and, in particular, with Arabs. But if someone suggests that some Americans should actually be able to speak and understand Arabic, and they wet their pants. Even the stupidest person should realize that, even if you only want to interpret intercepted conversations or documents, there is an advantage in actually being able to understand the language.

    But, no, this escapes the dummies, especially the trolls on TP.


  36. chingatumadre Says:

    Latin American Joke:
    A person who speaks three languages is trilingual; a person who speaks two languages is bilingual.
    What do you call a person who only speaks one language? . . .
    Gringo.


  37. had enough Says:

    Grouping those from the mid east as being Al Qaeda or Islamofascist is racist. Those from the mid east are probably grouping us as Christianfascist and justifiably so.


  38. pete Says:

    Fear fear. Terror terror. Those dang kids will kill us all.


  39. Troll Says:

    Comment by bobh — July 26, 2007 @ 6:36 pm

    The right is acused of being racist for speaking out against Islam constantly by you leftards.So now when it’s convenient for you there is a difference?


  40. Tea-time Says:

    With the military and intelligence agencies crying out for more Arabic speakers, why is the right attacking the very sort of school that will provide them??? (Why do they hate our country?)


  41. cosmosis Says:

    Run and hide wingnut trolls! Hide under beds until the rapture.


  42. Krazny Says:

    gummitch,

    in order for the wingnuts to justify Iraq, and everything that has happened since 9/11, the conflict needs to be on the same level as WWII. It doesn’t matter, that they great and powerful enemy they fear is more of a paper tiger. It is justification for Iraq, and everything else. If it wasn’t an epic conflict, then they would not be able to justify the war.


  43. dlet Says:

    This is wrong. They will exclude non-arab speeking students. That is racist.
    I thought you “progressives” were all about seperation of church and state?
    Comment by Troll

    First go back to school and learn how to spell in the English language. Second please explain how admitting Arabic speaking peoples is racist. Do you thing only Arabs speak Arabic? And please explain how that also touches on separation of church and state? When did the Arabic language become a religion? Are you trying to be this stupid or were you born with “the gift”.


  44. Zehava Says:

    Sorry, I’m more worried about Jesus Camp than an Arabic Culture School.
    Comment by Susan K.

    Absolutely.


  45. Zehava Says:

    But, no, this escapes the dummies, especially the trolls on TP.
    Comment by gummitch — July 26, 2007 @ 6:45 pm

    Most. Stupid. Trolls. Ever.


  46. oldtree Says:

    I never associated Gibran with violence. henny probably thinks Thoreau is a revolutionary


  47. pete Says:

    Sorry, I’m more worried about Jesus Camp than an Arabic Culture School.
    Comment by Susan K.

    Amen


  48. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    As long as religions and the businesses they own pay no taxes, no tax money should be spent on religious schools. The conservatives here seem to agree with that which makes me wonder why they were such enthusiastic supporters of Bush’s “Faith-based Initiatives.”


  49. CT Scan Says:

    And of all places, New York City.

    I knew lefties would take 9/11 the wrong way…


  50. katy Says:

    for heaven’s sake…

    it’s named after/for Khalil Gibran !!!

    how ignorant does one have to prove one is???

    heads up, students… it’s a given you will now be
    visited and threatend by a select group of stoopid bigots…

    god help ‘em…


  51. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    After all, Pete, in “Jesus Camp,” a fanatic is screaming that Harry Potter and anyone practicing magic or witchcraft should be put to death. Conservative christians: isn’t this a religious institutional death threat against Wiccans?


  52. had enough Says:

    There is a growing concern about 9/11 as to what the real facts are. Too many questions left unanswered… but for Faux to once again exploit this unfortunate event - to terrorize our population shows what scum they are. Who are the real terrorists? Who is it massacring innocent countries, changing the reasons as to why, tryi8ng to steal a countries resource? Next Iran…. Pakastan….


  53. Troll Says:

    Sorry, I’m more worried about Jesus Camp than an Arabic Culture School.
    Comment by Susan K.

    Amen

    Comment by pete — July 26, 2007 @ 6:50 pm

    This just proves you leftards are bigots.


  54. leftcoast Says:

    Nothing like training the Islamofascist at home. Then we can have another civil war too.

    Comment by Troll
    Funny, that’s what I thouht You were.,


  55. Mr. President Says:

    katy,

    It makes no difference who or what the school is named after/for,

    for Christ’s sake, alkaida kills in the name of their God!


  56. Geeez Says:

    I’ve been waiting for something like this to happen. The Christians who insist that there is no separation of church and state and assume that Christianity will be the religion of choice when those lines get blurred have a rude awakwning. I think it’s hysterical that Fox Noise is now screaming separation of church and state when their viewer base wants to tear that wall down. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it, but not in the way you intend.


  57. CT Scan Says:

    Sorry, I’m more worried about Jesus Camp than an Arabic Culture School.
    Comment by Susan K.

    Typical crazy lefty remark

    Still grieving over Mr. Churchill’s rightful dismissal, heh?

    Really, all of you mutants are identical.


  58. had enough Says:

    Sorry, I’m more worried about Jesus Camp than an Arabic Culture School.
    Comment by Susan K.

    I so agree.


  59. leftcoast Says:

    As long as religions and the businesses they own pay no taxes, no tax money should be spent on religious schools. The conservatives here seem to agree with that which makes me wonder why they were such enthusiastic supporters of Bush’s “Faith-based Initiatives.”

    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
    Bush’s Faith Based Int., when I heard of it years ago, scared the hell out me. Private schools should receive no monies from the government. Religious organizations should be extremely alarmed about government incursion into religion via this dark path they have taken.


  60. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    Why does the left want to suck on anyone of Alkaida’s descent?

    Why do they persistently hate a christian nation, yet void church and state separation rules to make way for Islam?


  61. Zehava Says:

    katy,
    It makes no difference who or what the school is named after/for,
    for Christ’s sake, alkaida kills in the name of their God!
    Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    Stop peeing your pants, for f*ck’s sake.


  62. leftcoast Says:

    BYW I am a Christian. I am opposed to religion working its way into politics. I want women to controll their body. and I want men to find something else to do beside ruling over women.


  63. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    CT Scan at 6:40: “Oh, looky here. A kooky libecrat dishing out a personal attack. How original.
    *yawn*”

    CT Scan 15 minutes later: “Typical crazy lefty remark
    Still grieving over Mr. Churchill’s rightful dismissal, heh?
    Really, all of you mutants are identical.”

    Nice going, CT. Good work.


  64. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Egreggious — July 26, 2007 @ 6:42 pm

    ok.


  65. Mr. President Says:

    You’re asking the wrong person, CT Scan.

    But I think it has something to do with their defeatist nature.


  66. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — July 26, 2007 @ 7:01 pm

    That’s not a personal attack.


  67. kimmy Says:

    Fisrt of all. Islam is a gentle religion. Radicals hurt Islam.
    Secondary. Christianity tries to be a gentle religion.
    But people like Bush makes it radical.
    Acceptance of others will make the world a better place to live.
    As a non-believer, I have visited Mosques and churches to understand this conflict.
    The Iman in the Mosque taught understanding and mutual trust.
    The Christian church taught about the mistrust of Islam and their violent ways.
    I would rather trust a Muslim than a Christian to stand by me.


  68. Ben Dover Says:

    # 37. Great screen name Chinga!! I say it to Bush each time I see his disgusting countenance.


  69. Zehava Says:

    Why do they persistently hate a christian nation, yet void church and state separation rules to make way for Islam?
    Comment by CT Scan

    Ridiculous statement number 874,354.

    This is not a christian nation. Separation of church and state makes for a stronger democracy and MORE religious freedom for all. There are no separate rules for Islam.

    This is a private school. They can teach what they want, just like the christian schools.

    If you don’t like it, don’t send your kids there.


  70. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    CT Scan: “Why do they persistently hate a christian nation, yet void church and state separation rules to make way for Islam?”

    Obviously, all lefties don’t walk in lock-step. I’ve already posted that I don’t think tax money should support religious schools. But, for the sake of consistency, do you or did you support Bush’s “Faith Based Initiative?”


  71. Zehava Says:

    That’s not a personal attack.
    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

    Yes, it is.

    “Really, all of you mutants are identical.”

    The word “you” makes it personal. See how that works?


  72. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:01 pm

    I can never understand how you humans could be so far to the left.

    Anything perky slipped into your yearly flu shot?


  73. Mr. President Says:

    I would rather trust a Muslim than a Christian to stand by me.

    Comment by kimmy — July 26, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
    ———————————–
    ummmmmm……………

    Satire? Z?


  74. pete Says:

    I think that you misunderstood me, Col. I think that that fat tub of suit, Becky Fischer, should be tried for child abuse. She scares the hell out of me. I also think that funds shouldn’t be spent on religious schools.

    Hey trolls! It’s a language school, not a religious school. Are kids who learn German all Nazis? Are kids who learn Italian all followers of Mussolini? I won’t even mention what becomes of those who learn French.

    Do you seriously fear language?


  75. ForTruth Says:

    I don’t care to know so much about Fox news. Tired of the Fox news threads.


  76. 1970cs Says:

    H&C if they were around in the 1950’s would be saying a school of Russian studies was training Commies for the Red Menace. They are the McCarthy supporters of the 21st century. Proof that in 50 years nothing has been accomplished.


  77. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    CT: “…a kooky libcrat…”

    “typical crazy lefty…”

    “all of you mutants are identical…”

    So, you’re saying that these are not personal attacks? OOOkkkkaaaay.


  78. Mr. President Says:

    It’s a language school

    No, it’s more than that.


  79. Troll Says:

    Comment by leftcoast — July 26, 2007 @ 6:55 pm

    Then you need to learn to read.

    I dont support “faith based initiatives”, am not a fanatic christian, have no problem with civil unions,(think gov should not recognize marriage at all it is a religious institution.) think our gov should be secular, am concerned about the amount of power corporations in the US possess and like our great patriots think we need to limit the federal gov for the sake of the preservation of individual liberty. Particularly keeping gov out of economic planning which was a hallmark of the fascist and btw the democrats.

    But I also know a real threat (Islam) from a bogeyman (Chistianity) you fools are so blinded by your petty fears you are jumping from the frying pan into the fire.


  80. gummitch Says:

    I can never understand how you humans could be so far to the left.

    Anything perky slipped into your yearly flu shot?

    Comment by CT Scan

    You don’t understand much of anything, so why should this be any different?



  81. ForTruth Says:

    I’m so far left, I’m right.

    /sarcasm


  82. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

    That’s exactly my point. You lefties will bus in others to achieve your goals of “non-christian” nation. Your statistics are shaky, nevertheless.

    Democrats have selective enforcement and “church and state.”


  83. Egreggious Says:

    Straight from the TP post:

    its curriculum is “not religion-based.”


  84. ForTruth Says:

    Don’t worry Ringworm,

    Rural public skools are still gettin’ their first computers.


  85. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    CT: “I can never understand how you humans could be so far to the left.”

    Since you refer to us as “you humans,” I’m going to assume you are from another planet. Maybe if you understood more about our heritage, you would understand what American values are. Here’s the “Father of our Country”:

    “As mankind becomes more liberal they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protection of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations in examples of justice and liberality.”

    – George Washington, Letter to the Roman Catholics, March 15, 1790


  86. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — July 26, 2007 @ 7:07 pm

    Not a personal attack.


  87. pete Says:

    Ah the poor trolls. So very afraid they might see the truth. The hate comes from their own souls and poisons their minds. I almost pity them. Almost.


  88. ForTruth Says:

    Don’t worry folks the conservative “movement” is about to taper off and plop into the toilet.


  89. Zehava Says:

    That’s exactly my point. You lefties will bus in others to achieve your goals of “non-christian” nation. Your statistics are shaky, nevertheless.

    Democrats have selective enforcement and “church and state.”

    Comment by CT Scan

    Busing had nothing to do with religion.


  90. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by gummitch — July 26, 2007 @ 7:09 pm

    Trust me, I don’t want to understand your anti-christian Islam takeover agenda. I’m glad it makes you feel warm and toasty inside. Problem for you is, the majority of Americans don’t support it.


  91. Ringo Says:

    Please don’t use my name to make juvenile comments about boogers.

    Thank you


  92. LibTeenie Says:

    George Washington couldnt possibly have conceived that the liberalism he referred to would ever encompass what is supposedly liberal in today’s America.

    Besides, GW didnt say anything about ‘progressives’…thats what you like to call yourselves today, isnt it?


  93. Geeez Says:

    Don’t worry folks the conservative “movement” is about to taper off and plop into the toilet.

    Comment by ForTruth — July 26, 2007 @ 7:13 pm

    Can we make sure that John Hagee goes with it?


  94. leftcoast Says:

    Comment by Troll — July 26, 2007 @ 7:08 pm-
    I think I understand your position, but you covered alot. Don’t worry, I am open to discussion.


  95. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    OK, I get it, CT. It’s not a personal attack unless you say it is. Got it.

    That must be the way it works on your planet. On our planet, we humans probably think it is.


  96. Zehava Says:

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — July 26, 2007 @ 7:07 pm

    Not a personal attack.
    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:11 pm

    It’s a personal attack, CT.

    If you want to be sure you’re not making a personal attack, use the person’s name. That way, if you’re making a personal attack, it will be clear.


  97. LibTeenie Says:

    Don’t worry folks the conservative “movement” is about to taper off and plop into the toilet.

    Unlike the liberal “movement” which is so full of worms that it can move under its own power.


  98. Thefifthbeatle Says:

    Ringo: “Help the paranoids are after me.”


  99. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    I hope the GOP tells me when to wet my pants over fear of religious freedom.

    Sheesh.


  100. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:13 pm

    Doesn’t matter, you clearly want to make room for Islam and push Christianity to the gutter. You get to take so much heart while this country slowly delves into its own civil war. Yet you lefties want to waste your time caring about Iraq?

    Yipee.

    Anybody who claims Islam to be a gentle alternative to Christianity is in dire need of electroshock therapy.


  101. Egreggious Says:

    Please don’t use my name to make juvenile comments about boogers.

    Thank you

    Comment by Ringo — July 26, 2007 @ 7:14 pm

    Somebody found Ringo’s weak spot.


  102. Troll Says:

    Don’t worry folks the conservative “movement” is about to taper off and plop into the toilet.

    Comment by ForTruth — July 26, 2007 @ 7:13 pm

    You’ll be happy then to have destroyed them and true liberalism. dip.


  103. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    A Muslamoid training camp coming to your neck of the woods. As the lefties claim, it’s good for diversity.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 6:24 pm

    God bless religious freedom! God bless the USA!


  104. stopattackingme Says:

    Hey CT Scan: You’re an A*SHOLE. See, now that’s a personal attack.


  105. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Nothing like training the Islamofascist at home. Then we can have another civil war too.

    Comment by Troll — July 26, 2007 @ 6:25 pm

    Islamofascism or plain ol’ vanilla Fascism - WTF is the difference to you?


  106. Jackie Says:

    The US invades Iraq builds a big Embassy and sends Christians to teach Christianity to the Middle East. Yet American Muslims can’t have a school that is open to everyone while they teach education and culture values. I wonder where their tax dollars go. The media and White House has done a great job in teaching racism. As long as there is oil to steal the US will continue to invade. Yes even here in the US if your not Christian your a criminal. As the GOP and White House has shown us the New America is only interested in stealing and lying. Americans have no representation but will be taxed.


  107. Zehava Says:

    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:17 pm

    After all this time, CT, you still know nothing about anyone but yourself.

    You might want to look into that, since you’re not the only human in existence.


  108. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:15 pm

    Hmmm…actually, it’s only a personal attack if I reference the persons name . Where do you get your material? There’s a difference between a personal attack and, in this case, an attack on a political party.


  109. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    LibTeenie: “George Washington couldnt possibly have conceived that the liberalism he referred to would ever encompass what is supposedly liberal in today’s America.”

    This is a standard argument today’s conservatives make when confronted with the shocking liberalism our country’s founders displayed in their words and actions. No, sorry, most of the Founders were believers in the philosophy of The Enlightenment. Washington was dead set against merging church and state. He had a healthy suspicion of organized religion. Although most people think of him as a Deist, there is a strong argument to be made that he was an athiest. He believed in the power of working people pooling their resources to create civil government and that government should serve the interests of the people, be completely transparent and “provide for the public welfare.” Although the British were routinely torturing Revolutionary soldiers and their supporters, Washington would allow no mistreatment of British prisoners. If he were to show up at a current Republican debate, he’d get booed off the stage.


  110. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Good.

    FOX should inform the American people about the Arab agenda.

    Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 6:25 pm

    Fox should stop supporting the agenda of the Neocon pigs - far more dangerous than religious freedom.


  111. ForTruth Says:

    Troll,

    I wish I had enough power to destroy an entire movement. But I don’t.


  112. LibTeenie Says:

    You have to understand why the liberals support the islamicizing of America, they dont have to waste money changing all their official paperwork.

    “From the desk of Ted Kennedy: D(himmist)-MA”


  113. Jeannie See Says:

    OT comment, but I’ve noticed that Zooey hasn’t posted anything (I read more than I comment).


  114. stopattackingme Says:

    Troll: Is your form of Christianofascism any better.


  115. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Hell,

    #3,

    you too, nice work!

    Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 6:26 pm

    I think Mr. Pee wants to kiss y’all. Better tell him to go Fu(k himself.


  116. pete Says:

    Good evening Zehava.

    Isn’t it fun watching the trolls go ape scat in fear of a school that teaches Arabic language and culture? It’s rather sad though. They’ll probably start burning Catholic Churches next. Too Roman I expect. Then, of course, they’ll have to burn the GERMAN Lutheran churches.


  117. Zehava Says:

    Hmmm…actually, it’s only a personal attack if I reference the persons name . Where do you get your material? There’s a difference between a personal attack and, in this case, an attack on a political party.
    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:20 pm

    Stop being such a willful moron, you f*cked up retard.

    (That wasn’t a personal attack because I didn’t use your name)


  118. ForTruth Says:

    Jefferson was not religious. He studied religions.


  119. LibTeenie Says:

    So jack, youre trying to say the Founding Fathers were liberals?


  120. Mr. President Says:

    Anybody who claims Islam to be a gentle alternative to Christianity is in dire need of electroshock therapy.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
    —————————————
    Well, I wouldn’t go that far, CT. But the libs do seem to demonize Christianity, while embracing Islam.

    Perhaps they feel that the BIG BAD USA has ruined so many Islamic lives, that they subconsciously overcompensate by apologizing to, and making excusses for, the Muslims… no matter what.


  121. chistianofacist Says:

    Our facist army of God will smite their facist army of God, so help me, God.


  122. Zehava Says:

    OT comment, but I’ve noticed that Zooey hasn’t posted anything (I read more than I comment).
    Comment by Jeannie See

    Hello.


  123. CT Scan Says:

    You might want to look into that, since you’re not the only human in existence.

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:20 pm

    According to Muslims directly, they want to dominate the world. Level-headed people are looking to prevent that. The left wants to stand in their way.

    Are Muslims the only humans in existence?They tend to be quite infatuated with themselves. Singling out Christians isn’t going to solve “your” world’s troubles.


  124. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Shorter troll/neocon pig talking point: I’m afraid of everything, so I think we should kill everything. I’m getting tired of constantly wetting my pants.


  125. God Says:

    All of you humans, just back the f*ck off.


  126. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:22 pm

    You don’t get anything.


  127. tarazan Says:

    Khalil Gibran was a good writer, with depth hard to find in many writers’ work. He wrote beautifully about humanity and love.
    Khalil was also a painter, and a poet.
    His books were translated to many languages.
    Khalil depth in describing life, nature and love is unmatched. I read most of his books. It saddens me to see a writer of his caliber is used by Fox network for propaganda purpose.
    This reminds me when the same network(Fox) attacked Senator Obama for his elementry ‘Madrasa’…(not explaining to viewers that any school, any school.. in Arabic language is called Madrasa). Hannity’s venom, hate and propaganda he used here is very clear,and obvious.

    Khalil was a Christian Arab himself,born in Lebanon. His writing is Arabic is as sweet as it is in English…
    He was a giant.


  128. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    LIbteenie: “You have to understand why the liberals support the islamicizing of America”

    Can you give us a citation or a quotation of some kind? I don’t remember ever hearing an American, either liberal or conservative supporting the “islamicizing of America.” Help me out here. I won’t vote for any candidate who expresses that view.


  129. Zehava Says:

    Isn’t it fun watching the trolls go ape scat in fear of a school that teaches Arabic language and culture? It’s rather sad though. They’ll probably start burning Catholic Churches next. Too Roman I expect. Then, of course, they’ll have to burn the GERMAN Lutheran churches.
    Comment by pete — July 26, 2007 @ 7:22 pm

    Hello pete,

    They must destroy what they fear — but they fear everything.
    That makes it a problem for the rest of us.


  130. LibTeenie Says:

    Our facist army of God will smite their facist army of God, so help me, God.

    Wont happen, there is only one god and his name is Allah. They will just smite you and everyone you know.

    Oh well, there goes the globe.


  131. Egreggious Says:

    According to Muslims directly, they want to dominate the world.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:23 pm

    And what do you want to do?


  132. Mr. President Says:

    Our facist army of God will smite their facist army of God, so help me, God.

    Comment by chistianofacist — July 26, 2007 @ 7:23 pm

    ———————
    YES!

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!LONG LIVE THE ZI0NIST-CRUSADER ALLIANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  133. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by stopattackingme — July 26, 2007 @ 7:18 pm

    Typical crazy lefty.


  134. Zehava Says:

    All of you humans, just back the f*ck off.
    Comment by God — July 26, 2007 @ 7:24 pm

    Yes, God.

    Sorry, God.


  135. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    CT Scan: “According to Muslims directly, they want to dominate the world. Level-headed people are looking to prevent that. The left wants to stand in their way.”

    According to most polls conducted in Muslim countries less than 5% of all Muslims identify themselves as “islamacists” or those who want to establish a “world-wide Caliphate.”

    By comparison, close to 15% of christians, when polled, agree with the goals of “Christian Dominionists.”


  136. pete Says:

    #

    They must destroy what they fear — but they fear everything.
    That makes it a problem for the rest of us.

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
    #

    Very true, which is why they will destroy each other. So sad.


  137. Geeez Says:

    Christian dominionists want to dominate the world, what is the difference. I will bow to neither.


  138. ForTruth Says:

    I thought Islamicizing was the act of chopping a head off. Like circumcizing.

    I still want a flavored blade, so I can taste pina colada or something while my head gets chopped off.


  139. CT Scan Says:

    And what do you want to do?

    Comment by Egreggious — July 26, 2007 @ 7:26 pm

    Secure the safety and sanity of our great country, as the left is seeking to destroy all-out and hand over to Islam.

    What a lefty.


  140. Egreggious Says:

    Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 7:26 pm

    That one will get deleted.


  141. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    “You can’t run a country on a book of religion,

    Not by a clump or a smudge or a smigion

    Of foolish rules of ancient date

    Designed to make you all feel great

    As you bend, fold and mutilate

    Those unbelievers from the neighboring state.”


  142. Zehava Says:

    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:23 pm

    I’m talking about YOU, only you.

    You condone genocide in order to stop feeling fearful. That makes you dangerous.

    We must learn to exist side by side on this planet — all of us. That won’t happen as long as one group (piss-soaked idiots) want to annihilate another group (Muslims, or whomever you decide you’re afraid of next).


  143. Troll Says:

    Washington would allow no mistreatment of British prisoners. If he were to show up at a current Republican debate, he’d get booed off the stage.

    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — July 26, 2007 @ 7:20 pm

    The British fought like civilized human beings not the dogs that the muslims are. So I beg to differ I think Washington was a man who would have skinned the bstrds alive.


  144. LibTeenie Says:

    Can you give us a citation or a quotation of some kind? I don’t remember ever hearing an American, either liberal or conservative supporting the “islamicizing of America

    Omar Ahmad, co-founder of CAIR:

    And I quote…ahem…

    “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim bookof scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the onlyaccepted religion on Earth.”


  145. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    So jack, youre trying to say the Founding Fathers were liberals?

    Comment by LibTeenie — July 26, 2007 @ 7:22 pm

    Of course they were liberals. Have you ever read American history? There is no such thing as a conservative revolution. Dickhead.


  146. CT Scan Says:

    Islam is in no way compatible with America. Otherwise, 9/11 probably wouldn’t have occured.

    But heck, believe the Zooeys of our nation. Go right ahead and falter.


  147. katy Says:

    It makes no difference who or what the school is named after/for,
    for Christ’s sake, alkaida kills in the name of their God!
    Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    i’m gonna guess you’ve never heard of the man,
    much less read his works…

    not to mention that their god is the same as yours…

    nuff with such idiocy… you’re lost…


  148. Linus Says:

    Someone, please, turn the lights on and send Troll, CT Scan, Mr. President and Ripper scurrying back to their holes. The troll infestation around here is getting out of hand. Does OFF make a troll repellent? How ’bout FLIT?


  149. Egreggious Says:

    the left is seeking to destroy all-out and hand over to Islam.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:29 pm

    Which candidate has stated that he or she is running on this platform?

    Which “Lefty” TPer has stated that this is what they want?


  150. Zehava Says:

    Very true, which is why they will destroy each other. So sad.
    Comment by pete — July 26, 2007 @ 7:28 pm

    They will attempt to take us with them, and I will not let that happen. I didn’t raise my sons just to have them slaughtered by the insanity of the fearful.


  151. LibTeenie Says:

    Of course they were liberals. Have you ever read American history? There is no such thing as a conservative revolution. Dickhead.

    Fine with me. They owned slaves. Have at it ya assgoblin.


  152. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    CT, can you name a “lefty” who wants to destroy our country “all-out and hand over to Islam.”?

    Please be specific. What does the “lefty” plan to do, what actions might he or she take to hand our country over to Islam?


  153. God Says:

    136: Apology accepted.


  154. !!!!!!! Says:

    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
    Comment by Troll — July 26, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
    Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 6:25 pm

    Nice work, fellas!
    Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 6:25 pm

    Wow, the words ‘arab’ and ‘islam’ scared Mr. peepee so bad that he came out of the gate as three trolls… Fear of course has the same attractive power as any other powerful emotion, so maybe it’s good that you come here to vent your terror. It may actually help you keep your nightmares at bay…


  155. Zehava Says:

    Which “Lefty” TPer has stated that this is what they want?
    Comment by Egreggious — July 26, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

    It’s the voice that lives in his dirty left shoe.

    (Not personal, no name used)


  156. pete Says:

    Hey IDIOTS! Take it personally if you wish but, IT’S NOT A MUSLIM SCHOOL. You are running from your own shadows.


  157. Egreggious Says:

    I think Washington was a man who would have skinned the bstrds alive.

    Comment by Troll — July 26, 2007 @ 7:31 pm

    Well, let’s just not conjecture without any evidence. Let’s invite Mr. Washington onto TP to speak for himself.


  158. GeorgeWashington Says:

    152: You conservatives were drinking tea in Boston and supporting the Hessians, while we liberal founding fathers were fighting a revolution.
    Liberal = change
    Conservative = status quo


  159. ForTruth Says:

    I bet some hot babes attend that school.


  160. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:30 pm

    You condone genocide in order to stop feeling fearful. That makes you dangerous.

    You should reference a more sane sociology text for pointers on debate.
    Anyhow, it’s only reasonable that they not bring the kooky obsession with themselves here, in order to avoid internal struggles in the US. Again, why do you want a civil war in America? Why do you seek to mingle with the great country which you happen not to like? Why is the left so darn insane? Why do you keep defending the terrorist way of life?

    We must learn to exist side by side on this planet — all of us. That won’t happen as long as one group (piss-soaked idiots) want to annihilate another group (Muslims, or whomever you decide you’re afraid of next).

    That won’t happen as long as Muslims seek to annihilate us. Again, why do you point your finger at the victim. Muslims have the dirty agenda and your tout it.


  161. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    Troll: “The British fought like civilized human beings not the dogs that the muslims are. So I beg to differ I think Washington was a man who would have skinned the bstrds alive.”

    I hope you’re kidding. If you’re not kidding, you need to crack open a history book. Seriously, Washington is on record in writing for preventing his soldiers from mistreating British soldiers. The Redcoats routinely tortured and hung captured Revolutionaries. Washington told his men that they had to stand for something and not lower themselves to the level of King George’s murderous legions.


  162. GeorgeWashington Says:

    158: Like minds and all that . . .


  163. ForTruth Says:

    Arab guys used to be cool when Larry of Arabia came out. What happened?


  164. pete Says:

    They will attempt to take us with them, and I will not let that happen. I didn’t raise my sons just to have them slaughtered by the insanity of the fearful.

    Comment by Zehava — July 26, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

    True. However, I think we can handle a bunch of frightened children. We need to be cautious and vigilant. But reason will triumph.


  165. Mr. President Says:

    Khalil Gibran International Academy assigned reading:

    The Arabian Peninsula has never — since Allah made it flat, created its desert, and encircled it with seas — been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies spreading in it like locusts, eating its riches and wiping out its plantations. All this is happening at a time in which nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.

    No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:

    First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.

    If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans’ continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.

    Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zi0nist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million… despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.

    So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.

    Third, if the Americans’ aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the J000s’ petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jer000salem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel’s survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

    All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on Allah, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in “Al- Mughni,” Imam al-Kisa’i in “Al-Bada’i,” al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said: “As for the fighting to repulse [an enemy], it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed [by the ulema]. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life.”

    On that basis, and in compliance with Allah’s order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:

    The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, “and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,” and “fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah.”


    Almighty Allah also says: “O ye who believe, what is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling so heavily to the earth! Do ye prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things.”

    Almighty Allah also says: “So lose no heart, nor fall into despair. For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in faith.”


    http://www.fas.org/ irp/ world/ para/ docs/ 980223-fatwa.htm


  166. Troll Says:

    Dickhead.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — July 26, 2007 @ 7:31 pm

    Dickhead
    Of course they were liberals you guys are not liberals you are left wing tyrrants who have moved so far left of center (the center being true liberalism) that the name has become meaningless.


  167. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — July 26, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

    Ward Churchill
    Jesse Jackson
    Al Sharpton
    Harry Reid
    …………………………………………….
    ……………………………………………………. (to infinity, seemingly)


  168. Egreggious Says:

    Muslims have the dirty agenda and your tout it.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:37 pm

    I object to you lumping all Muslims into one group.

    I do not judge all Christians by wackos like you.


  169. Mr. President Says:

    Comment by katy — July 26, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

    I’ve read “The Broken Wings”

    I found it touching, and I recommend it highly.


  170. LibTeenie Says:

    That won’t happen as long as one group (piss-soaked idiots) want to annihilate another group (Muslims, or whomever you decide you’re afraid of next).

    We already can, we could do it tomorrow if we wanted. Crap eater.

    It goes both ways and I dont hear too many U.S. Marines yelling “Praise Jesus” as they drive their Strykers into a crowd of civilians.

    But hey, youre a lib and therefore prone to believe that a soothing voice and a group hug can sway a terrorist savage from chopping your head off.

    Its why America cant trust the left with its national security and why you have never had the seeds to test your theory that guys like Bin Laden(D-SA) are actually kind and caring people.


  171. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Mr. President — July 26, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

    Mr. President, good job. It’s a testament to your resourcefulness.


  172. destroyersofdemocracy Says:

    168: dick cheney, karl rove, george bush, et al.


  173. ForTruth Says:

    Guess it depends on who you want to focus on. Do we focus on a relatively small percentage of Muslims who do want to kill everyone else and take over the world, or do we focus on a small percentage of Neocons who want to kill everyone else and take over the world? Tough call, we’re gonna need some more intelligence on the matter to determine who is the greater threat.


  174. Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Says:

    George Washington, 1784: “If they are good workmen, they may be of Asia, Africa, or Europe. They may be Mohometans, Jews or Christians of any Sect, or they may be Atheists.”

    Washington in 1789: “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”

    Really, Troll. Does this sound like a man who would skin someone alive?


  175. Troll Says:

    Liberal = change
    Conservative = status quo

    Comment by GeorgeWashington — July 26, 2007 @ 7:36 pm

    Yes and the status quo is classic enlightenment liberalism, not the crap you “progressives” push.


  176. LibTeenie Says:

    True. However, I think we can handle a bunch of frightened children. We need to be cautious and vigilant. But reason will triumph.

    Yeah right, coming from the guy who swoons because a few Goth kids take a shortcut through his yard. LOL


  177. ForTruth Says:

    When was the last time America’s security was compromised and we saw actual results of less security, under a Democratic Prez?


  178. LibTeenie'sleftbrain Says:

    You righties have so screwed up our security that the intelligence community feels that Al queda is stronger than it was before 9-11. Heckofajob, bushie.


  179. Mr. President Says:

    Thanks, CT.


  180. ForTruth Says:

    The Isreal-Neocon movement has a big job ahead. I hear there are 1.5 billion Muslims, and they have landlocked Isreal. What’s the plan to deal with it? Oh yeah, PNAC, nevermind.


  181. CT Says:

    Thanks Mr. P. We are one and the same.


  182. Zehava Says:

    That won’t happen as long as Muslims seek to annihilate us. Again, why do you point your finger at the victim. Muslims have the dirty agenda and your tout it.
    Comment by CT Scan — July 26, 2007 @ 7:37 pm

    Ok, I’m gonna fall back here and ask to see your proof that ALL Muslims want to kill us. You’re the only one I hear advocating for murdering an entire population. I don’t want any “proof” from extremist or fundies or any flavor. Got it?

    I h