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	<title>Comments on: Senators Call For Appointment Of Special Counsel To Investigate Gonzales For Perjury</title>
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		<title>By: DreamCrusher</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/26/special-counsel-gonzo-schumer/comment-page-3/#comment-3966025</link>
		<dc:creator>DreamCrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So instead of hauling Ashcroft in for testimony, they are moving to appoint &lt;em&gt;another&lt;/em&gt; special prosecutor.

&quot;Mr. Gonzalez, it appears to us that you are lying, because we don&#039;t want to ask people who know whether or not you are lying, thus we will just assume you are, so we are moving to appoint a special prosecutor, although we have no clue why we&#039;re even talking about this issue as it has nothing to do with the fired US attorneys... so hah!&quot;

Apparently legislators aren&#039;t elected to legislate anymore. They&#039;re elected to conduct rampant and out-of-control witch hunts against the opposing party&#039;s elected leaders.

I wonder why only 14% of the American public approves of Congress. I wonder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So instead of hauling Ashcroft in for testimony, they are moving to appoint <em>another</em> special prosecutor.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Gonzalez, it appears to us that you are lying, because we don&#8217;t want to ask people who know whether or not you are lying, thus we will just assume you are, so we are moving to appoint a special prosecutor, although we have no clue why we&#8217;re even talking about this issue as it has nothing to do with the fired US attorneys&#8230; so hah!&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently legislators aren&#8217;t elected to legislate anymore. They&#8217;re elected to conduct rampant and out-of-control witch hunts against the opposing party&#8217;s elected leaders.</p>
<p>I wonder why only 14% of the American public approves of Congress. I wonder.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3966025', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rockyroad</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/26/special-counsel-gonzo-schumer/comment-page-3/#comment-3965847</link>
		<dc:creator>rockyroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 05:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG -  Last night I discover that Laura Bush killed her ex-bf (1963, prob by accident) in a car wreck, and tonight, Tillman possibly deliberately executed.  All way too much.  I&#039;m cancelling my internet service. : (</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG &#8211;  Last night I discover that Laura Bush killed her ex-bf (1963, prob by accident) in a car wreck, and tonight, Tillman possibly deliberately executed.  All way too much.  I&#8217;m cancelling my internet service. : (<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3965847', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic. This is a story that every American must see.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/26/AR2007072602025.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic. This is a story that every American must see.<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/26/AR2007072602025.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/26/AR2007072602025.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3965811', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rockyroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockyroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to repost - just scroll past if you&#039;re not interested

Comment by O. Bigfoot â€” July 26, 2007 @ 12:23 pm

Big Zero, you are a piece of work. To say:

In spite of Hitlerâ€™s evil, he was a fascinating character in what he was able to accomplish during his lifetime. Who knows how far Hitler could have gone in destroying European nations and rebuilding them in his image had it not been for the United Statesâ€™ â€œinterventionismâ€.

Yikes!!! You admire Hitler!!! â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦..Not good.

Hitler embarked on a war of aggression, not unlike Bush. Driven by his delusion that he was on Godâ€™s mission.

Fortunately, genocide isnâ€™t (or doesnâ€™t at this point appear to be) on dubâ€™yaâ€™s mind.

GWB started this disaster based on his desire to rectify what he perceived to be his fatherâ€™s failure. He appealed to greed, his own and that of his buds, as well as his utter faith in the ignorance of the American people, to get the thumbs up. This was not a war to stop a genocide, it was a war to settle a beef. Not yours. Not mine. Not the thousands of soldiers who sacrificed their lives. For his. 

If Halliburton and the Bush â€œRangersâ€ can make a buck in the process . . . . Yee Haw!

Napolean complex run amok. Perhaps thatâ€™s why you want to super-size yourself . . . size zero â€œbigâ€ foot.

Comment by rockyroad â€” July 27, 2007 @ 12:09 am

Anon,

You raise good points. Why did Pelosi come right out of the box asserting that no empeachment proceedings were in the works? Iâ€™m a bit rushed, but thatâ€™s a question that deserves an answer.

We must know who knew what and when they knew it.

Comment by rockyroad â€” July 27, 2007 @ 12:30 am

Recognizing that Anon is a troll, Iâ€™ve got to say . . . here in blog-land, we are demanding action, and we are getting none. If dems are complicit in the various debacles, our good dems have no ultimate incentive to tackle these problems.

These facts and this knowledge could come back and bite dems.

Perhaps Pelosi has weighed the odds and decided to obfuscate.

Me? Dem, Repug . . . . donâ€™t care. Just want the truth.

Empeach the whole lot of them.

Comment by rockyroad â€” July 27, 2007 @ 12:46 am</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to repost &#8211; just scroll past if you&#8217;re not interested</p>
<p>Comment by O. Bigfoot â€” July 26, 2007 @ 12:23 pm</p>
<p>Big Zero, you are a piece of work. To say:</p>
<p>In spite of Hitlerâ€™s evil, he was a fascinating character in what he was able to accomplish during his lifetime. Who knows how far Hitler could have gone in destroying European nations and rebuilding them in his image had it not been for the United Statesâ€™ â€œinterventionismâ€.</p>
<p>Yikes!!! You admire Hitler!!! â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦..Not good.</p>
<p>Hitler embarked on a war of aggression, not unlike Bush. Driven by his delusion that he was on Godâ€™s mission.</p>
<p>Fortunately, genocide isnâ€™t (or doesnâ€™t at this point appear to be) on dubâ€™yaâ€™s mind.</p>
<p>GWB started this disaster based on his desire to rectify what he perceived to be his fatherâ€™s failure. He appealed to greed, his own and that of his buds, as well as his utter faith in the ignorance of the American people, to get the thumbs up. This was not a war to stop a genocide, it was a war to settle a beef. Not yours. Not mine. Not the thousands of soldiers who sacrificed their lives. For his. </p>
<p>If Halliburton and the Bush â€œRangersâ€ can make a buck in the process . . . . Yee Haw!</p>
<p>Napolean complex run amok. Perhaps thatâ€™s why you want to super-size yourself . . . size zero â€œbigâ€ foot.</p>
<p>Comment by rockyroad â€” July 27, 2007 @ 12:09 am</p>
<p>Anon,</p>
<p>You raise good points. Why did Pelosi come right out of the box asserting that no empeachment proceedings were in the works? Iâ€™m a bit rushed, but thatâ€™s a question that deserves an answer.</p>
<p>We must know who knew what and when they knew it.</p>
<p>Comment by rockyroad â€” July 27, 2007 @ 12:30 am</p>
<p>Recognizing that Anon is a troll, Iâ€™ve got to say . . . here in blog-land, we are demanding action, and we are getting none. If dems are complicit in the various debacles, our good dems have no ultimate incentive to tackle these problems.</p>
<p>These facts and this knowledge could come back and bite dems.</p>
<p>Perhaps Pelosi has weighed the odds and decided to obfuscate.</p>
<p>Me? Dem, Repug . . . . donâ€™t care. Just want the truth.</p>
<p>Empeach the whole lot of them.</p>
<p>Comment by rockyroad â€” July 27, 2007 @ 12:46 am<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3965799', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: God Help Us</title>
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		<dc:creator>God Help Us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>missmolly, or more appropriately termed, LIAR, 
The Dems went on a witch hunt after Reagan.  It was disgusting.  AND all the polls showed them leading until it all backfired at once in their face.  Sort of today - poll after poll showing the Dems ahead and Americans fairly divided on these witch hunts.

AND Republic, you must be kidding me about Dukakis.  Once your party nominates Hillary (oh and you fools will), Willie Horton will look like a vacation.  This woman is at 48% unfavorable when the media does nothing but gush over her.  Imagine after we challenge her on Iraq, taxes, abortion, the right to choose arms, not to mention Vince Foster&#039;s murder, travelgate, eavesdrop gate, her brother&#039;s pardon problems, and her shrillness.  Like I said, you will wish it was just Willie Horton after we&#039;re done swiftboating her.  I can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>missmolly, or more appropriately termed, LIAR,<br />
The Dems went on a witch hunt after Reagan.  It was disgusting.  AND all the polls showed them leading until it all backfired at once in their face.  Sort of today &#8211; poll after poll showing the Dems ahead and Americans fairly divided on these witch hunts.</p>
<p>AND Republic, you must be kidding me about Dukakis.  Once your party nominates Hillary (oh and you fools will), Willie Horton will look like a vacation.  This woman is at 48% unfavorable when the media does nothing but gush over her.  Imagine after we challenge her on Iraq, taxes, abortion, the right to choose arms, not to mention Vince Foster&#8217;s murder, travelgate, eavesdrop gate, her brother&#8217;s pardon problems, and her shrillness.  Like I said, you will wish it was just Willie Horton after we&#8217;re done swiftboating her.  I can&#8217;t wait.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964549', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that book fp. A very scary, yet informative read. Yet, we are beginning to see the end. Even trolls realize when they are totally wrong, eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that book fp. A very scary, yet informative read. Yet, we are beginning to see the end. Even trolls realize when they are totally wrong, eventually.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964246', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: funky p</title>
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		<dc:creator>funky p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading about the psychology of trolls, or Right Wing Authoritarians. It describes the attitudes displayed here, and the reasons behind it. John Dean wrote a book on authoritarian personalities, and how they are overwhelmingly conservative Republics. The book I am reading is by the Psychologist John Dean worked with when writing his own book.
See if this sounds like any trill you know:

&lt;em&gt;Authoritarian Aggression. When I say authoritarian followers are aggressive
I donâ€™t mean they stride into bars and start fights. First of all, high RWAs go to church
enormously more often than they go to bars. Secondly, they usually avoid anything
approaching a fair fight. Instead they aggress when they believe right and might are
on their side. â€œRightâ€ for them means, more than anything else, that their hostility is
(in their minds) endorsed by established authority, or supports such authority. â€œMightâ€
means they have a huge physical advantage over their target, in weaponry say, or in
numbers, as in a lynch mob. Itâ€™s striking how often authoritarian aggression happens
in dark and cowardly ways, in the dark, by cowards who later will do everything they
possibly can to avoid responsibility for what they did. Women, children, and others
unable to defend themselves are typical victims. Even more striking, the attackers
typically feel morally superior to the people they are assaulting in an unfair fight. We
shall see research evidence in the next chapter that this self-righteousness plays a huge
role in high RWAsâ€™ hostility.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading about the psychology of trolls, or Right Wing Authoritarians. It describes the attitudes displayed here, and the reasons behind it. John Dean wrote a book on authoritarian personalities, and how they are overwhelmingly conservative Republics. The book I am reading is by the Psychologist John Dean worked with when writing his own book.<br />
See if this sounds like any trill you know:</p>
<p><em>Authoritarian Aggression. When I say authoritarian followers are aggressive<br />
I donâ€™t mean they stride into bars and start fights. First of all, high RWAs go to church<br />
enormously more often than they go to bars. Secondly, they usually avoid anything<br />
approaching a fair fight. Instead they aggress when they believe right and might are<br />
on their side. â€œRightâ€ for them means, more than anything else, that their hostility is<br />
(in their minds) endorsed by established authority, or supports such authority. â€œMightâ€<br />
means they have a huge physical advantage over their target, in weaponry say, or in<br />
numbers, as in a lynch mob. Itâ€™s striking how often authoritarian aggression happens<br />
in dark and cowardly ways, in the dark, by cowards who later will do everything they<br />
possibly can to avoid responsibility for what they did. Women, children, and others<br />
unable to defend themselves are typical victims. Even more striking, the attackers<br />
typically feel morally superior to the people they are assaulting in an unfair fight. We<br />
shall see research evidence in the next chapter that this self-righteousness plays a huge<br />
role in high RWAsâ€™ hostility.</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964222', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#103, eggregious
Thanks, I just saw it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#103, eggregious<br />
Thanks, I just saw it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964200', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Unknown Democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Unknown Democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply #13, &quot;God Help Us&quot;.  Your name says it all.  God help us if Fredo Gonzalez stays in office after this.  He is nothing more than a moron would knew someone and now he knows too much to be fired.  He knows where all of the bodies are buried, therefore he must stay.  He appears to be a very ignorant individual who doesn&#039;t realize that playing games with Congress is not advisable since the other party controls the powerful commitee chairmanships.

Apparently Mr. Gonzales didn&#039;t get the memo on November 7th 2006, that said:  Ah Shit, they won!  We are in big trouble for all of the BS we pulled while our party controlled congress.  Please start shredding papers as soon as possible.  Do not tell Congress anything if yoy have too, then please don&#039;t get caught in a lie.  The truth won&#039;t set us free, it will get us impeached.  So Fredo make sure you don&#039;t testify at all.  If they call you to testify, please call in sick.  If they stop buying the sick excuse, then tell them your dog ate your homework.  If that doesn&#039;t work, then tell them you have visit Iraq.  If that fails then bring up 9-11 as often as possible and make sure you don&#039;t use the term, &quot;I don&#039;t recall Senator&quot;, this will get them pissed off at us and make them hand us our asses.  And remember to deny you ever read this letter because I&#039;m not supposed to be telling you this stuff.  This is not your boss writting this letter. 

Sign W</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply #13, &#8220;God Help Us&#8221;.  Your name says it all.  God help us if Fredo Gonzalez stays in office after this.  He is nothing more than a moron would knew someone and now he knows too much to be fired.  He knows where all of the bodies are buried, therefore he must stay.  He appears to be a very ignorant individual who doesn&#8217;t realize that playing games with Congress is not advisable since the other party controls the powerful commitee chairmanships.</p>
<p>Apparently Mr. Gonzales didn&#8217;t get the memo on November 7th 2006, that said:  Ah Shit, they won!  We are in big trouble for all of the BS we pulled while our party controlled congress.  Please start shredding papers as soon as possible.  Do not tell Congress anything if yoy have too, then please don&#8217;t get caught in a lie.  The truth won&#8217;t set us free, it will get us impeached.  So Fredo make sure you don&#8217;t testify at all.  If they call you to testify, please call in sick.  If they stop buying the sick excuse, then tell them your dog ate your homework.  If that doesn&#8217;t work, then tell them you have visit Iraq.  If that fails then bring up 9-11 as often as possible and make sure you don&#8217;t use the term, &#8220;I don&#8217;t recall Senator&#8221;, this will get them pissed off at us and make them hand us our asses.  And remember to deny you ever read this letter because I&#8217;m not supposed to be telling you this stuff.  This is not your boss writting this letter. </p>
<p>Sign W<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964137', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MN Dem</title>
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		<dc:creator>MN Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problems Fitz had with the Plame investigation had to do more with the ability of the WH gang intentionally not keeping their stories straight.  It was as if the Watergate scandal had taught them something about avoiding getting the finger pointing back at them.   I have no doubt that even if these latest principals appear before the Committee, they will lie under oath.   The only oath they honor is to President Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problems Fitz had with the Plame investigation had to do more with the ability of the WH gang intentionally not keeping their stories straight.  It was as if the Watergate scandal had taught them something about avoiding getting the finger pointing back at them.   I have no doubt that even if these latest principals appear before the Committee, they will lie under oath.   The only oath they honor is to President Bush.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964136', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: funky p</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/26/special-counsel-gonzo-schumer/comment-page-3/#comment-3964116</link>
		<dc:creator>funky p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how Arlen operates.
When confronted with corporate or government corruption, there is outrage and righteous indignation. When he was in charge of this committee and they called in the Oil company executives, the Democratic members wanted them to swear an oath. Arlen said no oath. Another Democrat seconded the motion, Arlen said no oath. He smacked them down with his &#039;I&#039;m in charge of this committee and I say there will be no oath&#039;
When the chips are down, he&#039;s partisan all the way. Remember, that&#039;s how he got the gig in the first place (as head of the committee). The white house did not trust him, so he went and kissed their posteriors and pledged his allegiance. That&#039;s why these investigations did not happen earlier. He was oh so upset about the illegal surveillance. Anybody remember him doing anything about it?
He&#039;s been in the Party pocket, and there he shall remain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how Arlen operates.<br />
When confronted with corporate or government corruption, there is outrage and righteous indignation. When he was in charge of this committee and they called in the Oil company executives, the Democratic members wanted them to swear an oath. Arlen said no oath. Another Democrat seconded the motion, Arlen said no oath. He smacked them down with his &#8216;I&#8217;m in charge of this committee and I say there will be no oath&#8217;<br />
When the chips are down, he&#8217;s partisan all the way. Remember, that&#8217;s how he got the gig in the first place (as head of the committee). The white house did not trust him, so he went and kissed their posteriors and pledged his allegiance. That&#8217;s why these investigations did not happen earlier. He was oh so upset about the illegal surveillance. Anybody remember him doing anything about it?<br />
He&#8217;s been in the Party pocket, and there he shall remain.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964116', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Egreggious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/26/special-counsel-gonzo-schumer/comment-page-3/#comment-3964095</link>
		<dc:creator>Egreggious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I am with you on this. I have my doubts about Fitz being as unbiased as some think he is. I judge him in this affair based upon the results. Results are zippo!

Comment by funky p â€” July 26, 2007 @ 2:48 pm&lt;/i&gt;

I have been giving Fitz a break.  I wanted him to have a chance to get Libby in a position where he might actually talk (that is, at the prison door), and thereby buttress the case against Rove, Armitage, et al.

But now that Libby will be doing no more talking, it seems the time has come and gone to indict the others involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am with you on this. I have my doubts about Fitz being as unbiased as some think he is. I judge him in this affair based upon the results. Results are zippo!</p>
<p>Comment by funky p â€” July 26, 2007 @ 2:48 pm</i></p>
<p>I have been giving Fitz a break.  I wanted him to have a chance to get Libby in a position where he might actually talk (that is, at the prison door), and thereby buttress the case against Rove, Armitage, et al.</p>
<p>But now that Libby will be doing no more talking, it seems the time has come and gone to indict the others involved.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964095', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: missmolly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/26/special-counsel-gonzo-schumer/comment-page-3/#comment-3964093</link>
		<dc:creator>missmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there two Arlen Specters?

Comment by Egreggious â€” July 26, 2007 @ 2:29 pm

There&#039;s really only one Arlen Specter.  It just SEEMS like there are two of him because Fox News likes to put a (D) after his name.  A reasonable person might conclude that there is an Arlen Specter in each party.</description>
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<p>Comment by Egreggious â€” July 26, 2007 @ 2:29 pm</p>
<p>There&#8217;s really only one Arlen Specter.  It just SEEMS like there are two of him because Fox News likes to put a (D) after his name.  A reasonable person might conclude that there is an Arlen Specter in each party.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964093', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: funky p</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/26/special-counsel-gonzo-schumer/comment-page-3/#comment-3964082</link>
		<dc:creator>funky p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me. People admitted to outing her. What more could you want. And it would be easy to prove that they had both knowledge (she was covert and working under a cover company which they also outed) and intent - they did it, what more intent do you want?

Comment by bilbobaggins â€” July 26, 2007 @ 2:44 pm

I am with you on this. I have my doubts about Fitz being as unbiased as some think he is. I judge him in this affair based upon the results. Results are zippo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me. People admitted to outing her. What more could you want. And it would be easy to prove that they had both knowledge (she was covert and working under a cover company which they also outed) and intent &#8211; they did it, what more intent do you want?</p>
<p>Comment by bilbobaggins â€” July 26, 2007 @ 2:44 pm</p>
<p>I am with you on this. I have my doubts about Fitz being as unbiased as some think he is. I judge him in this affair based upon the results. Results are zippo!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964082', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bilbobaggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/26/special-counsel-gonzo-schumer/comment-page-3/#comment-3964072</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbobaggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#78, if you read the statute in question, the bar for proving a crime is very high - you have to show both knowledge and intent. The obstruction and perjury prevented Fitz from ever being able to show either conclusively.

Comment by PeterW &quot;

Excuse me.  People admitted to outing her.  What more could you want.  And it would be easy to prove that they had both knowledge (she was covert and working under a cover company which they also outed) and intent - they did it, what more intent do you want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#78, if you read the statute in question, the bar for proving a crime is very high &#8211; you have to show both knowledge and intent. The obstruction and perjury prevented Fitz from ever being able to show either conclusively.</p>
<p>Comment by PeterW &#8221;</p>
<p>Excuse me.  People admitted to outing her.  What more could you want.  And it would be easy to prove that they had both knowledge (she was covert and working under a cover company which they also outed) and intent &#8211; they did it, what more intent do you want?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964072', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bilbobaggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/26/special-counsel-gonzo-schumer/comment-page-3/#comment-3964059</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbobaggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Time to stop waiting for Congress to realize theyâ€™ve been blocked â€” again â€” and work with the State AGâ€™s in their efforts to enforce arrest warrants against the President, VP, and Members of Congress.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

You&#039;re joking...right?  If you are referring to the State US Attorneys, there is no way any of them are going to enforce anything against the Bush Administration.  They were all carefully hand picked and this whole scandal broke because they got rid of the ones they thought were not loyal enough to the President of the United States (rather than being loyal to the constitution and the people).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Time to stop waiting for Congress to realize theyâ€™ve been blocked â€” again â€” and work with the State AGâ€™s in their efforts to enforce arrest warrants against the President, VP, and Members of Congress.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>You&#8217;re joking&#8230;right?  If you are referring to the State US Attorneys, there is no way any of them are going to enforce anything against the Bush Administration.  They were all carefully hand picked and this whole scandal broke because they got rid of the ones they thought were not loyal enough to the President of the United States (rather than being loyal to the constitution and the people).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964059', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: funky p</title>
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		<dc:creator>funky p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The President (Reagan) the Vice President (GHWB) and many high-ranking administration officials were involved in an illegal conspiracy that gave arms to a terrorist nation (IRAN) and avowed enemy, while also dealing in drug trafficking, illegal arming of rebels in Nicaragua, and violating a specific act of congress which forbade the arming of the Nicaraguan rebels.

Did I mention that many of the Iran Contra criminals are part of the Bush administration?</description>
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<p>Did I mention that many of the Iran Contra criminals are part of the Bush administration?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964057', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Egreggious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Egreggious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there two Arlen Specters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there two Arlen Specters?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964030', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: funky p</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/26/special-counsel-gonzo-schumer/comment-page-3/#comment-3964025</link>
		<dc:creator>funky p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Democrats need to look back to 1988 to see why they are making a big mistake. Remember when George H. W. Bush was behind the polls by double digits? Remember Bork? Remember Iran Contra? You had it all - or thought you did. Hate filled investigation after investigation. Then something happened. The public wanted results and didnâ€™t see them. The Dems nominated Dukakis - (which Hillary is in a dress). AND then you lost he election.

Comment by God Help Us&lt;/em&gt;

I can&#039;t let this one slide by without comment.
Iran Contra was not a hate-filled investigation. The President (Reagan) the Vice President (GHWB) and many high-ranking administration officials were involved in an illegal conspiracy that gave arms to a terrorist nation (IRAN) and avowed enemy, while also dealing in drug trafficking, illegal arming of rebels in Nicaragua, and violating a specific act of congress which forbade the arming of the Nicaraguan rebels.

The guilty either got immunity (like Ollie North) or pardons (from Bush). Caspar Weinberger got his pardon before there was even a trial. 
Cover ups, contempt of congress, drug dealing, arms dealing, aiding and abetting a known terrorist nation in the acquisition of misslies and other weapons.
No hate filled investigation. Just another right wing RICO racket, swept under the rug of history by a complicit and culpable president.
Next falsehood please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Democrats need to look back to 1988 to see why they are making a big mistake. Remember when George H. W. Bush was behind the polls by double digits? Remember Bork? Remember Iran Contra? You had it all &#8211; or thought you did. Hate filled investigation after investigation. Then something happened. The public wanted results and didnâ€™t see them. The Dems nominated Dukakis &#8211; (which Hillary is in a dress). AND then you lost he election.</p>
<p>Comment by God Help Us</em></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t let this one slide by without comment.<br />
Iran Contra was not a hate-filled investigation. The President (Reagan) the Vice President (GHWB) and many high-ranking administration officials were involved in an illegal conspiracy that gave arms to a terrorist nation (IRAN) and avowed enemy, while also dealing in drug trafficking, illegal arming of rebels in Nicaragua, and violating a specific act of congress which forbade the arming of the Nicaraguan rebels.</p>
<p>The guilty either got immunity (like Ollie North) or pardons (from Bush). Caspar Weinberger got his pardon before there was even a trial.<br />
Cover ups, contempt of congress, drug dealing, arms dealing, aiding and abetting a known terrorist nation in the acquisition of misslies and other weapons.<br />
No hate filled investigation. Just another right wing RICO racket, swept under the rug of history by a complicit and culpable president.<br />
Next falsehood please!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3964025', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Egreggious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Egreggious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Marie, you beat me to it.</description>
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