Comments on: Escalation Architect Says Calling The Army Broken ‘Is One Of The Most Offensive Statements To Make’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:04:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Philip Graham http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3970256 Philip Graham Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:19:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3970256 In the 1970s, the Portuguese fascist dictatorship was breaking their own military with a long drawn out and deeply unpopular war. They refused to listen to the generals, and the army stepped in and restored democracy, which has been thriving ever since in Portugal. The parallels between Bush and the Portuguese dictatorship are eerie. No one in their right mind wants a coup, but Bush might want to watch his back. See "Another History Lesson," in McSweeney's: http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/philipgraham/25dispatch13.html In the 1970s, the Portuguese fascist dictatorship was breaking their own military with a long drawn out and deeply unpopular war. They refused to listen to the generals, and the army stepped in and restored democracy, which has been thriving ever since in Portugal. The parallels between Bush and the Portuguese dictatorship are eerie. No one in their right mind wants a coup, but Bush might want to watch his back.
See “Another History Lesson,” in McSweeney’s:
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/philipgraham/25dispatch13.html

]]> By: Jane E. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3968723 Jane E. Schneider Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:01:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3968723 Comment by The Unknown Democrat — July 27, 2007 @ 11:19 pm Thank you for your service and for your post. Comment by The Unknown Democrat — July 27, 2007 @ 11:19 pm

Thank you for your service and for your post.

]]> By: kasinca http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3968721 kasinca Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:01:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3968721 Hunter is the guy who is pushing the building of a 700 mile fence to defend our 2100 mile border with Mexico. He is on the ball. Hunter is the guy who is pushing the building of a 700 mile fence to defend our 2100 mile border with Mexico. He is on the ball.

]]> By: The Unknown Democrat http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3968580 The Unknown Democrat Sat, 28 Jul 2007 03:19:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3968580 I'm so sick and tired of these idiots like Ducan Hunter sitting on their fat butts and making stupid statements. Mr. Hunter is a moron who knows absolutely nothing about hard combat or hard work. He's never "Humped" with a pack on his back and rifle in his hand during combat operations. What the fools doesn't understand is that our soldier may be brave, but they are not robots. They get sick, hurt, see their friends die and have more stress than ordinary people can understand. Just take a minute and think about being blown up, shot at, while you are tired, sweating in over 100 degree heat. This is what our soldiers go through day in and day out. I've been through it during combat operations and I can personally tell you it's no fun. The heat makes it worst because you can't take time to see realy sweat without worrying about get wasted. If Hunter and some of the other chicken hawks spent on day in combat with these guys, they cry like a little w(b)itch. When I think back about my experience it still scares me. I still have nightmares about combat and it seems like its real. I’m so sick and tired of these idiots like Ducan Hunter sitting on their fat butts and making stupid statements. Mr. Hunter is a moron who knows absolutely nothing about hard combat or hard work. He’s never “Humped” with a pack on his back and rifle in his hand during combat operations. What the fools doesn’t understand is that our soldier may be brave, but they are not robots. They get sick, hurt, see their friends die and have more stress than ordinary people can understand. Just take a minute and think about being blown up, shot at, while you are tired, sweating in over 100 degree heat. This is what our soldiers go through day in and day out. I’ve been through it during combat operations and I can personally tell you it’s no fun. The heat makes it worst because you can’t take time to see realy sweat without worrying about get wasted.

If Hunter and some of the other chicken hawks spent on day in combat with these guys, they cry like a little w(b)itch. When I think back about my experience it still scares me. I still have nightmares about combat and it seems like its real.

]]> By: Mugsy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3968032 Mugsy Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:56:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3968032 Notice how Hunter retermed it as it as if Korb was saying (quote) "our <strong><em>soldiers</em></strong> are broken. Kean and Hunter try to attack Korb for saying something he never said, and (naturally) completely ignore the point he is making. We saw this before when Giulliani attacked Ron Paul for supposedly "blaming America for the attacks of 9/11". <strong>Maybe the problem is Conservativism is a simple hearing disorder? The only difference between a Conservative and a Liberal is a "<em>MiracleEar</em>"???</strong> Notice how Hunter retermed it as it as if Korb was saying (quote) “our soldiers are broken. Kean and Hunter try to attack Korb for saying something he never said, and (naturally) completely ignore the point he is making.

We saw this before when Giulliani attacked Ron Paul for supposedly “blaming America for the attacks of 9/11″.

Maybe the problem is Conservativism is a simple hearing disorder? The only difference between a Conservative and a Liberal is a “MiracleEar“???

]]> By: GoTFreeDUMB? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3967520 GoTFreeDUMB? Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:23:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967520 <strong>EVEN YOUR OWN MINISTERS,PREACHERS,WHATEVERYOUCALLEMS CAN blindly stir you into a war frenzy.</strong> EVEN YOUR OWN MINISTERS,PREACHERS,WHATEVERYOUCALLEMS CAN blindly stir you into a war frenzy.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3967512 missmolly Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:21:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967512 Why wait? Get the dems to vote on it now. Bush will veto it but it will be a show of support for the troops and make the dems appear strong on defense. Comment by Troll — July 27, 2007 @ 2:52 pm Great idea! The very moment that the Dems decide to invade another country, I'll be first in line to pressure my Congressmen (a Dem) to introduce the necessary legislation. Why wait? Get the dems to vote on it now. Bush will veto it but it will be a show of support for the troops and make the dems appear strong on defense.

Comment by Troll — July 27, 2007 @ 2:52 pm

Great idea! The very moment that the Dems decide to invade another country, I’ll be first in line to pressure my Congressmen (a Dem) to introduce the necessary legislation.

]]> By: jimmy james http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3967506 jimmy james Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:20:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967506 The army <em>should</em> be upset at this statement. But, should they be upset because he said it out loud, or because it is true? The army should be upset at this statement. But, should they be upset because he said it out loud, or because it is true?

]]> By: Juan C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3967486 Juan C Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:15:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967486 sorry. should have added nothing. Nothing but cowards. sorry. should have added nothing. Nothing but cowards.

]]> By: GoTFreeDUMB? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3967483 GoTFreeDUMB? Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:15:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967483 <strong>DO NOT TRUST EVEN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORS ! WHO Could blindly stir you into a war frenzy.</strong> <blockquote></blockquote> DO NOT TRUST EVEN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORS ! WHO Could blindly stir you into a war frenzy.

]]> By: Juan C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3967481 Juan C Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:14:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967481 <em>Of course, the next statement from the trols will be why do you (and us) hate the troops. Comment by upside00</em> Respectfully, who cares about what they have to say? They have been wrong about everything since they were born. Let them play here posting incredibly stupid comments to get some attention. Their credibility is in the bottom, cuz it takes courage to admit when you are wrong and all of them are but cowards. Of course, the next statement from the trols will be why do you (and us) hate the troops.
Comment by upside00

Respectfully, who cares about what they have to say? They have been wrong about everything since they were born. Let them play here posting incredibly stupid comments to get some attention.

Their credibility is in the bottom, cuz it takes courage to admit when you are wrong and all of them are but cowards.

]]> By: GoTFreeDUMB? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3967469 GoTFreeDUMB? Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:12:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967469 <strong>TO ALL OF YOU TROLLS OUT THERE“Resisting the Drums of War.” IS NOT "RESISTING ARREST"! THOUGHT I WOULD CLEAR THAT UP FOR YOU! UNLESS OF COURSE, YOU WAS BEING ARRESTED BY THE MOFIA.</strong> TO ALL OF YOU TROLLS OUT THERE“Resisting the Drums of War.” IS NOT “RESISTING ARREST”!
THOUGHT I WOULD CLEAR THAT UP FOR YOU!
UNLESS OF COURSE, YOU WAS BEING ARRESTED BY THE MOFIA.

]]> By: upside00 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-3/#comment-3967442 upside00 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:08:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967442 <em>Comment by Tired Of Fighting </em> I hear you! I am a wounded vet of the Vietnam "situation" and know what it feels like to have people criticize how I felt being an anti-war protester when I returned and threatened with arrest for my beliefs. I will never understood the mentality of throwing stones from a distance. Guess it comes with the Chickenhawk suit!! Thanks for your service! Comment by Tired Of Fighting

I hear you! I am a wounded vet of the Vietnam “situation” and know what it feels like to have people criticize how I felt being an anti-war protester when I returned and threatened with arrest for my beliefs. I will never understood the mentality of throwing stones from a distance. Guess it comes with the Chickenhawk suit!!

Thanks for your service!

]]> By: GoTFreeDUMB? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-2/#comment-3967437 GoTFreeDUMB? Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:08:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967437 <strong># 98, Great Job on the Video. Anyway to Diseminate this worldwide?</strong> <blockquote></blockquote> # 98, Great Job on the Video. Anyway to Diseminate this worldwide?

]]> By: OxyCon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-2/#comment-3967406 OxyCon Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:03:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967406 Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush said in his nomination acceptance speech that "if called on by the commander-in-chief today, two entire divisions of the Army would have to report ..., 'Not ready for duty, sir.'" Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush said in his nomination acceptance speech that “if called on by the commander-in-chief today, two entire divisions of the Army would have to report …, ‘Not ready for duty, sir.’”

]]> By: Roy Eidelson http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-2/#comment-3967377 Roy Eidelson Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:56:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967377 From a psychological perspective, the Bush/Cheney administration and its neocon allies succeeded in promoting the misguided and destructive war in Iraq by targeting our core concerns about vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. Looking ahead, they will likely try to sell us a continuing occupation of Iraq—or an attack on Iran—in much the same way. I examine these warmongering appeals and how to counter them in a 10-minute YouTube video entitled <b>"Resisting the Drums of War."</b> It's available for viewing <b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81UKnb5zJbM" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</b> From a psychological perspective, the Bush/Cheney administration and its neocon allies succeeded in promoting the misguided and destructive war in Iraq by targeting our core concerns about vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. Looking ahead, they will likely try to sell us a continuing occupation of Iraq—or an attack on Iran—in much the same way. I examine these warmongering appeals and how to counter them in a 10-minute YouTube video entitled “Resisting the Drums of War.” It’s available for viewing HERE.

]]> By: Tired Of Fighting http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-2/#comment-3967373 Tired Of Fighting Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:55:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967373 Whats going on Egreggious!!! RIP SGT Stephen R. Sherman C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER) KIA 3 Feb 2005 Mosul, Iraq Whats going on Egreggious!!!

RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq

]]> By: Tired Of Fighting http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-2/#comment-3967367 Tired Of Fighting Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:54:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967367 #92 I'm prepared for that, but NONE of them would ever meet me on the battlefield and say anything. Nor could any of them name one of us so-called "troops". We are Soldiers not props, not idiots, and we're damn sure not inhuman to the point where this BS doesn't effect us. So to all who want to start that, I'll quote another offensive statement, "Bring it On" RIP SGT Stephen R. Sherman C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER) KIA 3 Feb 2005 Mosul, Iraq #92

I’m prepared for that, but NONE of them would ever meet me on the battlefield and say anything. Nor could any of them name one of us so-called “troops”. We are Soldiers not props, not idiots, and we’re damn sure not inhuman to the point where this BS doesn’t effect us. So to all who want to start that, I’ll quote another offensive statement, “Bring it On”

RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq

]]> By: Marcus Aurelius http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-2/#comment-3967365 Marcus Aurelius Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:54:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967365 Is anyone surprised by this? it is the goal of the Neocons, as stated by Grover Norquist, to "strangle the government in a bathtub". You can't do this with a strong military. All ges according to plan. Is anyone surprised by this? it is the goal of the Neocons, as stated by Grover Norquist, to “strangle the government in a bathtub”. You can’t do this with a strong military. All ges according to plan.

]]> By: Egreggious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/comment-page-2/#comment-3967359 Egreggious Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:51:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/27/escalation-architect-korb/#comment-3967359 Tired of Fighting. My personal hero. Tired of Fighting.

My personal hero.

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