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Lowe’s drops advertising on O’Reilly.

By Faiz on Jul 28th, 2007 at 1:00 pm

Lowe’s drops advertising on O’Reilly.»

Earlier this month, Robert Greenwald’s Brave New Films released “Fox Attacks: The Environment.” The short film documented Fox News’ assault on global warming science and called for one of Fox’s major advertisers, Home Depot, to stop supporting the network’s lies. Home Depot claims to support eco-friendly policies but still gives advertising dollars to Fox.

Watch it:

While Home Depot is still sticking with Fox, its major competitor — Lowe’s — announced “the company’s advertising will no longer appear” on the The O’Reilly Factor. Keep the heat on Home Depot. Sign the Sierra Club’s petition.




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230 Responses to “Lowe’s drops advertising on O’Reilly.”

  1. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Ah, Capitalism the way the Capitalists hate it, when the advertisers reject the eyeballs of the viewers of an idiot.


  2. CT Scan Says:

    Home Depot is not in the business of silencing critics and doing political analysis, lefties. It’s not contradictory for a business to advertise in a prominent medium. Fox doesn’t exactly enjoy low ratings, so it’s a go-getter for advertisers.

    Lowe’s is moronic for their decision.


  3. Thrasymachos Says:

    BOYCOTT LOWE’S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (It kinda sucks, anyway. Whatever happened to Hechinger?)


  4. G Whiz Says:

    If the Sierra Club would put a privacy notice on that page that says we will not share your information with anybody nor will we hound you to join, I’d sign it.

    But petitions like these have the added benefit for organizations to pester people, because they gather personal information.

    I can’t tell you how much online and mail spam I now receive because of these partitions.


  5. Zooey Says:

    It’s working!!

    Woo hoo!!


  6. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    BOYCOTT LOWE’S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (It kinda sucks, anyway. Whatever happened to Hechinger?)

    Comment by Thrasymachos — July 28, 2007 @ 1:14 pm

    Spoken like a fellow Washingtonian! Too bad they’re gone.


  7. Guido, Lover, OBGYN- Says:

    I really like this pushing of anti-FOX products. People who boycott FOX deserve free pub. No doubt about it.


  8. Jamie McCarthy Says:

    As the comments on the Kos story point out, Lowe’s ceased advertising on the O’Reilly Factor on January 25, 2007, six months ago.

    http://www.newshounds.us/ 2007/ 01/ 30/ lowes_drops_advertising_from_the_oreilly_factor.php


  9. CT Scan Says:

    Businesses shouldn’t be forced into the position of making political decisions. They will (and should) seek to draw a customer base in the finest mediums. Fox has a prominent viewership, so it’s one of those places.

    Lefties, you have no brain.


  10. veritas Says:

    Let’s all boycott Home Depot BIG TIME! We can hit them where it hurts most - in their pocket book. Besides, Lowe’s is every bit as good and in some areas even better than Home Depot.


  11. Terrific Jones Says:

    Ah yes. Yet another wonderful show of how business friendly the libturds are. “If you don’t agree with our high and mighty ideals, you don’t deserve to do business and earn money and we’ll make sure of that by sending in our brainwashed activist hordes. They’ll pester you with letters and calls until you give up.”

    Get a life people.


  12. Terrific Jones Says:

    Oh, and get a well paying job, too. You’ll see that having a lot of money isn’t that bad an idea.


  13. veritas Says:

    CT scan: It’s clear that the rads have fried your brain, that’s what’s obvious to all of us. You’ve been not wearing your “Rad-0-Meter” as you should have been.

    Businesses KNOW that their choosing sides in politics nets them nothing but failure. Home Depot has chosen to fail and fail it will. Just like it’s counterpart, Foch Snooze, which, incidentally, no one watches any longer.

    As I’ve said, Rads to the brain, dude.


  14. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Ah yes. Yet another wonderful show of how business friendly the libturds are. “If you don’t agree with our high and mighty ideals, you don’t deserve to do business and earn money and we’ll make sure of that by sending in our brainwashed activist hordes. They’ll pester you with letters and calls until you give up.”

    Get a life people.

    Comment by Terrific Jones — July 28, 2007 @ 1:20 pm

    I thought Rethugs liked a free market. What happened - capitalist principles got you down?


  15. Terrific Jones Says:

    Activism by the consumers isn’t free market.


  16. veritas Says:

    In my state, Lowe’s trumps Home Depot by a long shot. They are even considering closing one nearby because it’s always empty.


  17. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Oh, and get a well paying job, too. You’ll see that having a lot of money isn’t that bad an idea.

    Comment by Terrific Jones — July 28, 2007 @ 1:22 pm

    Home despot is fixin to find out how life is when you have less money. I love a free market!


  18. veritas Says:

    Activism by the consumer IS free market. Who are trying to kid, Tom Terriffic (NOT!).


  19. veritas Says:

    Atta boy, Marcus. Spear those trolls every time! March on, Aurelius.


  20. michael Says:

    You liberals are a pathetic lot! When you can’t carry on an intelligent debate or when you encounter someone who disagrees with your points of view, what do you do? Censor!


  21. veritas Says:

    Let’s send out this thread and encourage everyone we know to immediately begin a boycott of Home Depot and then we’ll see who controls our market, shall we?


  22. Terrific Jones Says:

    veritas: No it isn’t. Free market means free, unhindered competition between corporations - it doesn’t mean that consumers screw up the operation of corporations by embarking on silly boycotts and pressure campaigns. That harms our economy.


  23. veritas Says:

    Home Depot cannot thrive without consumers. That IS the name of the game.


  24. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Activism by the consumers isn’t free market.

    Comment by Terrific Jones — July 28, 2007 @ 1:23 pm

    You must be smokin’ some really good weed! Are you advocating forced consumerism, or maybe a single source market? How Soviet of you!


  25. michael Says:

    ” begin a boycott of Home Depot

    Comment by veritas — July 28, 2007″

    Why? Afraid to debate the issues?


  26. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Atta boy, Marcus. Spear those trolls every time! March on, Aurelius.

    Comment by veritas — July 28, 2007 @ 1:25 pm

    As long as you back me up, bro.


  27. veritas Says:

    Terrific Jones: One thing is certain: You definitely did not major in Economics! Boycotting a company for one reason or another is the perogative of the consumer, whether you like it or not.

    I hear there’s a mailorder degree program at Phoenix University in Economics. I suggest that you enroll before making a total asshat of yourself.


  28. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by veritas — July 28, 2007 @ 1:22 pm

    You’re interfering with business’ regularly scheduled advertising. Why are you lefties determined to make such a fuss about it, when it’s a fundamental marketing practice? There’s nothing contradictory. It’s a simple advertisement.

    It’s not really that tough to understand, yet you leftoids need to continue your inane protests.


  29. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    ” begin a boycott of Home Depot

    Comment by veritas — July 28, 2007″

    Why? Afraid to debate the issues?

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:27 pm

    How about you make a cogent point, and we’ll debate it?


  30. stonehinge Says:

    Has anyone made a list of all the advertiser’s on Fox? If so, that would certainly simplify decisions on where to shop and what products to buy. For those of us who don’t watch, such a list would be a very nice thing to have.


  31. Quadrajet Says:

    Gosh TomTom and Mikey - seems you don’t know that the boycott is a favorite tool of the right, just ask Dobson.


  32. Terrific Jones Says:

    #23: No. My point is exactly the opposite. I’m saying that people should decide themselves where to shop. What’s going on here is nothing but an organized campaign to harm our economy. These people aren’t thinking for themselves, but are agitated by libturds who still think that communism is a good idea.

    I’ll make it simple: individuals deciding where to buy = good, some libturd clique telling people where buying stuff is OK and where it’s not = bad.


  33. veritas Says:

    Forced consumerism is communism the last time I looked, weed-smokin’, piss-soaked troll, Michael (aka Coultergeist!). Hah!


  34. michael Says:

    “Are you advocating forced consumerism, or maybe a single source market? How Soviet of you!

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007″

    No, that’s not what he/she was advocating. I think they were advocating intelligent debate which you liberals are incapable of!


  35. veritas Says:

    terrific jones: Clearly, you are scrambling your own brain here. What is it that you’re really trying to say because it’s definitely sounding like speaking with forked tongue to me.


  36. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    You liberals are a pathetic lot! When you can’t carry on an intelligent debate or when you encounter someone who disagrees with your points of view, what do you do? Censor!

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:26 pm

    If you were being censored, I wouldn’t have to type this. Maybe another bong hit will help.


  37. Terrific Jones Says:

    It’s just the same thing as it’s with unions. I’ve got no problem with individuals negotiating and twisting the arm of an employer, but when they gang up into unions, that’s harmful.


  38. Yikes Says:

    ” begin a boycott of Home Depot

    Comment by veritas — July 28, 2007″

    Why? Afraid to debate the issues?

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:27 pm

    You mean the issue that Fox denies the existence and reasons for global warming? That debate has been over for some time michael.


  39. veritas Says:

    Terrific: I see that clear articulation of thought is definitely not your forte. Ever think of seeing someone for that case of “hoof ‘n mouth disease” which you clearly show signs of being infected with?


  40. veritas Says:

    speak for yourself, piss soaked michael. Besides, no one with half a brain would debate with a moronic, village idiot like yourself.


  41. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Comment by veritas — July 28, 2007 @ 1:22 pm

    You’re interfering with business’ regularly scheduled advertising. Why are you lefties determined to make such a fuss about it, when it’s a fundamental marketing practice? There’s nothing contradictory. It’s a simple advertisement.

    It’s not really that tough to understand, yet you leftoids need to continue your inane protests.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:28 pm

    Would you still shop there if they advertised that we should beat your ass?


  42. michael Says:

    “How about you make a cogent point, and we’ll debate it?

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007″

    CO2 does not impact warming! Your turn?


  43. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Lefties, you have no brain.

    Comment by CT Scan

    Umm, any comments about Dild O’Reilly urging righties to boycott JetBlue over the whole YearlyKos stupidity???


  44. Terrific Jones Says:

    veritas: Oh, that’s two ad hominems in a couple of posts. It must have hit you hard to realize that I’m right.


  45. veritas Says:

    If Michael is speaking of debating global warming, then he’d better join the ranks of the uninformed, uninitiated, and totally unconscious trolls like CT Scan. Then again….he probably IS CT Scan…..beeeeep! Thanks for playing Michael and CT!


  46. Yikes Says:

    CO2 does not impact warming! Your turn?

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:32 pm

    Wow. Good debating skills michael. You win /sarcasm off


  47. michael Says:

    “You mean the issue that Fox denies the existence and reasons for global warming? That debate has been over for some time michael.

    Comment by Yikes — July 28, 2007″

    Sure it has with you blinded liberals but the debate hasn’t even begun for people with open minds!


  48. Anonymous By Choice Says:

    Home Depot has always supported republicans and Lowe’s has primarily been a supporter of Democrats. It was news to me that Lowes had any advertising on Bill O’s show.


  49. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by veritas — July 28, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    Forced consumerism?

    Nobody’s threatning anybody into a shopping spree. That’s the lefties’ same crazy contention when it comes to military recruiting.


  50. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    are agitated by libturds who still think that communism is a good idea.

    I’ll make it simple: individuals deciding where to buy = good, some libturd clique telling people where buying stuff is OK and where it’s not = bad.

    Comment by Terrific Jones

    “libturds”??? WTF??? How about a “definition”, please?


  51. veritas Says:

    two ad hominems for two trolls in the same body! hahaha! We know who you are.


  52. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by veritas — July 28, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    Not a response from this libetroll, just a runaway attempt to cut off debate.


  53. Perry Logan Says:

    It’s absurd to talk about Fox in terms of marketing. Fox uses the public airways, so they’re all socialists from the get-go. The rest is just right-wing rhetoric.


  54. veritas Says:

    Time to freeze out the idiotic trolls functioning on less brain power than most slugs.


  55. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    #23: No. My point is exactly the opposite. I’m saying that people should decide themselves where to shop. What’s going on here is nothing but an organized campaign to harm our economy. These people aren’t thinking for themselves, but are agitated by libturds who still think that communism is a good idea.

    I’ll make it simple: individuals deciding where to buy = good, some libturd clique telling people where buying stuff is OK and where it’s not = bad.

    Comment by Terrific Jones — July 28, 2007 @ 1:29 pm

    Nevermind what I posted before - put the bong down. A neocon/conservative/republican/right-winger telling progressives that they have been manipulated into something. Ha! How’s that war workin’ for ya’? How’s that budget surplus workin out?

    Dude! You are so funny!


  56. michael Says:

    “Good debating skills michael. You win /sarcasm off

    Comment by Yikes — July 28, 2007″

    It was a pretty simple and powerful statement that is at the heart of your global warming alarmist rhetoric! Can’t counter it?


  57. Terrific Jones Says:

    #50: Oh? Well, look at that several “you”s in your post and elsewhere on this page. Stop postnig under multiple nicks, will you?

    Geez, you’ve got some trouble with logical thinking and the idea of proof.


  58. Quadrajet Says:

    “you have no brain.”
    Comment by CT Scan

    …said the radiologist to CT following his scan….


  59. Zooey Says:

    Gosh TomTom and Mikey - seems you don’t know that the boycott is a favorite tool of the right, just ask Dobson.
    Comment by Quadrajet — July 28, 2007 @ 1:28 pm

    Don’t confuse the issue with facts. :D


  60. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    “… what do you do? Censor!”

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007

    Then why are you allowed to post here, endlessly, pointlessly, annoyingly???


  61. michael Says:

    “The rest is just right-wing rhetoric.

    Comment by Perry Logan — July 28, 2007″

    Give us an example?


  62. Epictetus Says:

    As long as you back me up, bro.

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
    ———————-

    um… that’s not a dude.


  63. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    “How about you make a cogent point, and we’ll debate it?

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007″

    CO2 does not impact warming! Your turn?

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:32 pm

    Prove it. Statement is opinion - lacks factual basis. I said cogent. Try again.


  64. CT Scan Says:

    Would you still shop there if they advertised that we should beat your ass?

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007 @ 1:31 pm

    Typical brainless anarchist lefty.

    (Reminder: Don’t forget to report to prison. You’re due very soon. Nice rap sheet!)


  65. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    …said the radiologist to CT following his scan….

    Comment by Quadrajet

    Actually, it was the psychoproctologist who said that…


  66. michael Says:

    “Time to freeze out the idiotic trolls functioning on less brain power than most slugs.

    Comment by veritas — July 28, 2007″

    A perfect example of how liberals react in the arena of debate, censorship!


  67. CT Scan Says:

    …said the radiologist to CT following his scan….

    Comment by Quadrajet — July 28, 2007 @ 1:36 pm

    I see you’ve already lost the debate. All typical lefty signs intact.


  68. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Gosh it’s so nice to see last night’s truce is off!!!


  69. michael Says:

    “Then why are you allowed to post here, endlessly, pointlessly, annoyingly???

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 28, 2007″

    Because I know I annoy the crap out of you dopes!


  70. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    “the debate hasn’t even begun for people with open minds!”

    Comment by michael

    Hmmm… this could be taken as a tacit admission of being really, really far behind on the learning curve. Just pointing that out…


  71. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    It’s just the same thing as it’s with unions. I’ve got no problem with individuals negotiating and twisting the arm of an employer, but when they gang up into unions, that’s harmful.

    Comment by Terrific Jones — July 28, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    Unions built the middle class. I’m fairly certain you are middle class. Free association, power in numbers, and using that power to make everyone’s lot in life much better. Sound economic principles.


  72. Yikes Says:


    “You mean the issue that Fox denies the existence and reasons for global warming? That debate has been over for some time michael.

    Comment by Yikes — July 28, 2007″

    Sure it has with you blinded liberals but the debate hasn’t even begun for people with open minds!

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    You sure are confused. Open minded people take the information given and make a determination based on that information. Science tells us that global warming IS caused by CO2 and greatly affected by humans. Not sure how you claim to have an open mind yet ignore the mountains of information stacked against you. Not sure what you personally have to gain from ignoring facts.


  73. Grand Moff Texan Says:

    A perfect example of how liberals react in the arena of debate, censorship!

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:38 pm

    Wasting bandwidth is not debate. Eliminating noise is not censorship.
    .


  74. CT Scan Says:

    ALREADY, THE TROLLS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  75. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Because I know I annoy the crap out of you dopes!

    Comment by michael

    Wrong answer. Yu said lefties resort to censorship, yet you get to post here all you want, no matter how pointless. You just admitted to that much - “because I annoy the crap out of you dopes…”

    The question was, IF lefties resort to censorship, WHy are you allowed to post here? Try again…


  76. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    “you have no brain.”
    Comment by CT Scan

    …said the radiologist to CT following his scan….

    Comment by Quadrajet — July 28, 2007 @ 1:36 pm

    Good one!


  77. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Because I know I annoy the crap out of you dopes!

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:40 pm

    Because we’re all Treasonous and Slanderous and Gorgeous! Right, Ann?

    (Okay, you haven’t written that last one yet, but I’m sure it’s coming soon to a remaindered bin near you!)

    And the topic is Lowe’s and O’Reilly, not global warming.


  78. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    As long as you back me up, bro.

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
    ———————-

    um… that’s not a dude.

    Comment by Epictetus — July 28, 2007 @ 1:36 pm

    Okay - sister.


  79. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Boy the trolls don’t like it “when the makret decides” when it come to their shows, but when companies pull advertising from Air America, the trolls scream “the market decided it didn’t want to be part of your polotics.” Well guess what trollies. THe market just fu*king decided and you lost and you will keep losing, because business wants the money from the masses and right now, you are the minority and you money doesn’t matter.

    Live learn it, learn it, love it.


  80. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    It’s just the same thing as it’s with unions. I’ve got no problem with individuals negotiating and twisting the arm of an employer, but when they gang up into unions, that’s harmful.

    Comment by Terrific Jones

    I believe it’s in the Constitution - the right to free assembly.

    Is a union any different than a corporation? Oh, that’s right “corporations” have the same rights as human beings…


  81. Grand Moff Texan Says:

    “You mean the issue that Fox denies the existence and reasons for global warming? That debate has been over for some time michael.

    Comment by Yikes — July 28, 2007″

    Sure it has with you blinded liberals but the debate hasn’t even begun for people with open minds!

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    Even Rupert Murdoch has abandoned you, moron.

    “I have to admit that, until recently, I was somewhat wary of the warming debate. I believe it is now our responsibility to take the lead on this issue,” Murdoch told a conference in Tokyo.

    “Some of the presumptions about extreme weather, whether it be hurricanes or drought, may seem far-fetched. What is certain is that temperatures have been rising and that we are not entirely sure of the consequences,” he said.

    “The planet deserves the benefit of the doubt.”
    .


  82. Yikes Says:

    It was a pretty simple and powerful statement that is at the heart of your global warming alarmist rhetoric! Can’t counter it?

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:35 pm

    LOL

    Let’s see your statement - “CO2 does not impact warming! Your turn?”

    Well, it’s simple, I’ll give you that.

    I’ll counter it - let’s see - Humans have released so much CO2 in the last 150 years that the current global stability of our planet’s climate is at risk.

    There you go. Not quite as simple as yours and based on facts to boot.


  83. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Would you still shop there if they advertised that we should beat your ass?

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007 @ 1:31 pm

    Typical brainless anarchist lefty.

    (Reminder: Don’t forget to report to prison. You’re due very soon. Nice rap sheet!)

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:37 pm

    Here’s hoping you’re my cell mate. I got top bunk. Got it?

    And, might i add, you’ve got a real pretty mouth.


  84. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    “the debate hasn’t even begun for people with open minds!”

    Comment by michael

    Hmmm… this could be taken as a tacit admission of being really, really far behind on the learning curve. Just pointing that out…

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 28, 2007 @ 1:40 pm

    I know. It’s like Homer Simpson watching the pre-game shows to see which football team to bet on. One guy says “Cincinnati is my Shoe-In of the Week” (and puts a giant show on the desk). The other says “Detroit is my Lock of the Week” (and puts a giant lock on the desk.)

    And Homer says, “Hmmm, they both make a good point.”

    Environmentalists and liberals, backed by scientific study, put forth an indisputable argument that the climate is changing, that it is starting to get just a little bit warmer overall each year, and that human activity is contributing to the problem (which is as far as the scientists take it).

    And then some people out there say, ”Hmmm, but I’m interested in what the people paid to attack and denounce these scientists have to say.” That’s not an “open mind”; that’s an “empty mind”.


  85. coulterskunt Says:

    Michael - you seem to be getting hammered - - again. I think you need me to rescue you.


  86. right winger Says:

    You libs piss me off. You can’t go around and boycott our facsist companies. If you keep doing this, I’m going to go tell my mommy and boy will you be in trouble then!


  87. crimedog Says:

    Censor!!! i thought liberals supported free speech


  88. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    “Then why are you allowed to post here, endlessly, pointlessly, annoyingly???

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 28, 2007″

    Because I know I annoy the crap out of you dopes!

    Comment by michael — July 28, 2007 @ 1:40 pm

    He’s motivated by being annoying and incoherent.


  89. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    That’s not an “open mind”; that’s an “empty mind”.

    Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — July 28, 2007

    I’ve seen that episode. Good one!

    But you know what the trolls say, don’t you?

    “An empty mind gathers no facts!”


  90. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Censor!!! i thought liberals supported free speech

    Comment by crimedog — July 28, 2007

    Censor what???


  91. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007 @ 1:47 pm

    Nobody will be your cell mate. You’re in confinement. An anarchist lefty doesn’t deserve bunks and oatmeal and those other luxuries afforded to nutcases of a lower degree.


  92. paland Says:

    There is no debate about climate change. It’s happening and we know it. The only ones going around and denying it are shills for the oil companies. And a few people who are pissed at the scopes trial 80 years ago. I mean, even President Bush admitted GW and you righties wouldnt want to call him a liar would you?


  93. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    He’s motivated by being annoying and incoherent.

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius

    I have to admit, such candor from a troll is unusual.


  94. gummitch Says:

    The hypocrisy of the trolls is astonishing. Suddenly, boycotts based on a political view are anti-American! When did they object so loudly to O’Reilly himself, who has been the queen of boycotts. Boycott France! Boycott Canada! Boycott Best Buy! Boycott Crate & Barrel!

    Are their memories really only two hours long?


  95. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007 @ 1:47 pm

    Nobody will be your cell mate. You’re in confinement. An anarchist lefty doesn’t deserve bunks and oatmeal and those other luxuries afforded to nutcases of a lower degree.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:51 pm

    Okay by me - I’ll just catch your sweet lil’ ass in the cafeteria.


  96. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Nobody will be your cell mate. You’re in confinement.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007

    And you? No doubt, you will request being in the same cell w/ “Bruno, the Booty Bandit”.


  97. stonehinge Says:

    Jeebus, somebody send over a fresh batch of trolls. I’ve seen scarier stuff than this in my stool.


  98. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Censor!!! i thought liberals supported free speech

    Comment by crimedog — July 28, 2007 @ 1:49 pm

    Market trends have nothing to do with fre speech. THis is just advertising, nobody’s free speech rights are being violated.


  99. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Nobody will be your cell mate. You’re in confinement.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007

    And you? No doubt, you will request being in the same cell w/ “Bruno, the Booty Bandit”.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 28, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

    Ha! Bruno is a Republican!


  100. Quadrajet Says:

    “I see you’ve already lost the debate.”
    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:38 pm

    Gosh CT, I thought that you had when you were unable to counter the point the RoS and I made about the right wings extensive use o the boycott as a tool, tool.


  101. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Boycott France! Boycott Canada! Boycott Best Buy! Boycott Crate & Barrel!

    Are their memories really only two hours long?

    Comment by gummitch

    While you’re at it, Boycott Facts! Boycott Intelligence! Boycott Free Speech! Oops… that a little too, uh, candid… Boycott Michael Moore!


  102. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Nobody will be your cell mate. You’re in confinement. An anarchist lefty doesn’t deserve bunks and oatmeal and those other luxuries afforded to nutcases of a lower degree.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:51 pm

    Got fascist?


  103. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Okay by me - I’ll just catch your sweet lil’ ass in the cafeteria.

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007

    Rump roast??? Accck… enough to make me go vegan.


  104. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 28, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

    Only lefties belong in jail.


  105. stonehinge Says:

    Here it is, over on HuffPo. I like this.


  106. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007

    There will be no cafeteria. You are a terrorist.


  107. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 28, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

    Only lefties belong in jail.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:58 pm

    Good point! This comment helps us take you seriously.


  108. gummitch Says:

    Rump roast??? Accck… enough to make me go vegan.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Oh, let’s not be ridiculous. I’d sleep with Ann Coulter before I’d go Vegan.


  109. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Spudge_Boy — July 28, 2007 @ 1:56 pm

    Your boy advocates prison rape. May want to turn the other direction.

    Marcus must be a raging minority.


  110. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Only lefties belong in jail.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007

    There will be no cafeteria. You are a terrorist.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007

    When this is the best you can do for “political commentary”, it’s easy to laugh at you. You don’t convince anyone straddling the line which way they should go. These sorts of comments are just silly. Try harder!!!


  111. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007

    There will be no cafeteria. You are a terrorist.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:58 pm

    No matter what you call me, you’ll still be my queen. BTW: You won’t be needing your dinner - so I’ll just take it.


  112. paland Says:

    It seems to me that most of the degenerate child molesters getting busted now days are almost all Republicans. In fact, almost all the crimes commited are done by Republicans. Crime is just another day in the life for them.


  113. Quadrajet Says:

    “you have no brain.”
    Comment by CT Scan

    …said the radiologist to CT following his scan….
    Comment by Quadrajet — July 28, 2007 @ 1:36 pm

    Good one!
    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007 @ 1:42 pm

    Thanks Marcus, but I stand corrected. As RoS pointed out, it was a psychoproctologist.


  114. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I’d sleep with Ann Coulter before I’d go Vegan.

    Comment by gummitch — July 28, 2007

    Why do “libruls’ hate those of us who “insist on keeping our breakfast down” so much?


  115. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Comment by Spudge_Boy — July 28, 2007 @ 1:56 pm

    Your boy advocates prison rape. May want to turn the other direction.

    Marcus must be a raging minority.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 2:00 pm

    You can’t rape the willing. Define “minority”.


  116. CT Scan Says:

    Lefties are simply reeling from their much-needed losses.

    Vent all you want, America won’t take you seriously.


  117. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    As RoS pointed out, it was a psychoproctologist.

    Comment by Quadrajet

    Ahem, none other than the pre-eminent Dr. Horatio Jellyfinger, a man dedicated to “probing” the mysteries of the human, er “mind”…


  118. gummitch Says:

    Why do “libruls’ hate those of us who “insist on keeping our breakfast down” so much?

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    I’m passionate about food and will go to any length to avoid Veganism, even that. I do apologize for triggering your gag reflex, though. Hopefully, you had a nice big serving of fatty bacon.


  119. CT Scan Says:

    You can’t rape the willing. Define “minority”.

    Uhhh….come again?

    Marcus is indeed a raging minority.


  120. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Vent all you want, America won’t take you seriously.

    Comment by CT Scan

    Sweet tap-dancin’ Jeebus, CT now imagines he, or she, represents all of America!


  121. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Vent all you want, America won’t take you seriously.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 2:04 pm

    Sorry fascist, WE ARE AMERICA. Eat it b!tch.


  122. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Lefties are simply reeling from their much-needed losses.

    Vent all you want, America won’t take you seriously.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 2:04 pm

    Uh…

    Can’t respond - it’s just too stupid.


  123. CT Scan Says:

    Another day, another loss for leftyland.


  124. Spudge_Boy Says:

    Another day, another loss for leftyland.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 2:06 pm

    Is this troll really that stupid that he thinks US getting Lowe’s to pull advertising from O’Rielly is a loss for our side?

    Fu*king crazy moonbat.


  125. Zooey Says:

    Are their memories really only two hours long?
    Comment by gummitch — July 28, 2007 @ 1:53 pm

    That long? Hmmmm, they can’t even keep it straight within the same thread!


  126. CT Scan Says:

    Marcus is a raging minority.


  127. Moderation Says:

    Ah yes. Yet another wonderful show of how business friendly the libturds are. “If you don’t agree with our high and mighty ideals, you don’t deserve to do business and earn money and we’ll make sure of that by sending in our brainwashed activist hordes. They’ll pester you with letters and calls until you give up.”

    Get a life people.

    Comment by Terrific Jones — July 28, 2007 @ 1:20 pm

    It’s just the same thing as it’s with unions. I’ve got no problem with individuals negotiating and twisting the arm of an employer, but when they gang up into unions, that’s harmful.

    Comment by Terrific Jones — July 28, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    Ohhhhhh, so it’s alright if CAPITAL organizes, and uses that organization to garner additional support mechanisms, to control the flow of money, to have its voice heard, and to otherwise maintain its interests. That is what a corporation is, by the way, is a Capital Union. But if LABOR tries to organize in the same manner, for the same reasons, that is EVIL AND BAD. That, by the way, is all that a Labor Union is.

    I see. So you are a hypocrite. Gotcha. Now that you’ve made your position so clear, we can see just how hypocritical you are. And now that you know you are a hypocrite, I’ll let you in on a little secret. Some of us despise hypocrites. More than just about anything else, in fact. Because hypocrites invariably are also bald-faced liars as well. Therefore, you cannot trust a hypocrite.

    As for your first post, you do know that a free market works by allowing the consumers to influence the market via their market choices, right? Lowes would not have pulled their advertising from O’Rielly’s show had the not received sufficient feedback to warrant such an action. Had they received enough support for their advertising to counter the arguments coming from those who wish to boycott, Lowes would have kept their advertising dollar where it was. They didn’t. Thus, the market has spoken.

    You so-called conservatives are not conservative at all. Your idea of a “free market” is a series of monopolies and oligopolies. You want Capital to have tremendous resources, and the ability to stave off any attack, and to insulate individual members from repercussions it brings upon itself with its own actions. You do not want Labor to have equal representation. You want, therefore, to return to the days of indentured servitude, to the days of serfdom and nobility, to the deepest depths of class warfare. Allowing Capital to organize, but not Labor always leads to MONEY having more power than PEOPLE, to a handful of people having power OVER all of the individual pieces of Labor that make their Capital Union function in the first place. It always leads to one form or another of slavery.

    Lowes backing out is because of MARKET PRESSURE. If there wasn’t enough pressure from the MARKET to back out, a corporation like Lowes simply…wouldn’t.


  128. Bob Loblaw Says:

    I try to support the local businesses first in my community before I go to any of these large corporate stores. We’ve had a Lowes built here in the past year and I haven’t stepped foot in it and don’t plan to. Capitalism of this kind is crap and I think it horribly changes the scenery of our community, yuck! I think anyone who believes that they need to buy crap, that these people make you think you need, should kill themselves…


  129. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Spudge_Boy — July 28, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

    Lowe’s made a poor decision that will cost them. The loss is in the long-term, not a short-lived lefty adrenaline rush.


  130. marlow Says:

    Can’t remember the last time I shopped at Home Depot. 2002 maybe?


  131. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I do apologize for triggering your gag reflex, though. Hopefully, you had a nice big serving of fatty bacon.

    Comment by gummitch

    Gag reflex… hmmm… perhaps we could ask the trolls how they overcame that. they seem to be capable of swallowing ANYTHING stuck in their mouths and keeping it down afterwards.

    (Though I still eat some meat, I quit bacon a couple of decades ago…)


  132. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 28, 2007 @ 2:06 pm

    I’m not the one producing shoddy, debunked reports of a “progressive majority.”


  133. Quadrajet Says:

    “Ahem, none other than the pre-eminent Dr. Horatio Jellyfinger, a man dedicated to “probing” the mysteries of the human, er “mind”…
    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 28, 2007 @ 2:05 pm

    Bwahahahahaha RoS! Thanks to you and Marcus for the laughs - these clowns really do make it a little too easy don’t they?

    “Another day, another loss for leftyland.”
    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 2:06 pm

    You’re too funny CT! So you consider your work here today as a victory eh? Bwahahahaha, and I thought RoS and Marcus had a good sense of humor! Then again, your’s is more of a sense of delusion…..


  134. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    CT Scan is a raging dickhead!


  135. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I’m not the one producing shoddy, debunked reports of a “progressive majority.”

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007

    You mean like the 70% who now think we should get out of Iraq?


  136. Bob Loblaw Says:

    Ignore the trolls…


  137. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Then again, your’s is more of a sense of delusion…..

    Comment by Quadrajet — July 28, 2007

    Humor is lost on trolls, Quadra. They just don’t get it. it’s one of mysteries Dr. Jellyfinger is working on.


  138. G Whiz Says:

    Think Progress: You need to do what Crooks and Liars does, and start monitoring your blog. The reich-wing war-against-Americans sector spread the word to destroy progressive blogs.

    THIS is how they do it.

    We can’t have a dialog here with all the crap now.


  139. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

    Mucus Airhead is a raging minority.


  140. gummitch Says:

    Lowe’s made a poor decision that will cost them. The loss is in the long-term, not a short-lived lefty adrenaline rush.

    Comment by CT Scan

    They’re definitely going to lose their piece of the booming market of global warming deniers. That will definitely hurt.

    Bwaahaahaaa


  141. Epictetus Says:

    We can’t have a dialog here with all the crap now.

    Comment by G Whiz — July 28, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
    ——————————-

    Crooks and Liars would delete your post because you used too much bold!

    C & L are a bunch of FASCISTS!!!!!!!!!!!


  142. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

    Mucus Airhead is a raging minority.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 2:18 pm

    Is that all you’ve got, boy? You’re going to need more than that.


  143. Quadrajet Says:

    it’s one of mysteries Dr. Jellyfinger is working on.
    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 28, 2007 @ 2:15 pm

    ….maybe while he’s got CT in the scanner it would be a good time to see if we can answer the questions about what happened to Hoffa, Earhart and the missing WMD….


  144. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by gummitch — July 28, 2007 @ 2:19 pm

    You know not a single principle of business.


  145. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Comment by gummitch — July 28, 2007 @ 2:19 pm

    You know not a single principle of business.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 2:29 pm

    Says Mr. International Industrial Tycoon.


  146. gummitch Says:

    You know not a single principle of business.

    Comment by CT Scan

    You make this assumption based on . . . oh, yeah. Nothing.

    O’Reilly’s audience probably can’t even afford Lowe’s. It’s amazing he kept the account as long as he did.


  147. Zooey Says:

    They’re definitely going to lose their piece of the booming market of global warming deniers. That will definitely hurt.
    Bwaahaahaaa
    Comment by gummitch — July 28, 2007 @ 2:19 pm

    There’s going to be a Lowes built just across the border in Washington, I think I’ll shop there for my condo updating needs.


  148. Overtroll 7 Says:

    ALREADY, THE TROLLS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:42 pm

    I bet you’re just bustin’ your britches CT. Such a major milestone in your life… and everyone always said that you wouldn’t amount to a lump of shit. Well, there’ll be two extra lumps of shit on your plate at tonight’s merit badge awards dinner. Enjoy!


  149. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    We can’t have a dialog here with all the crap now.

    Comment by G Whiz — July 28, 2007

    Free speech may be free, but it aint always pretty. You actually can have a dialog here if ya work at it, and trust me, it is work.


  150. Moderation Says:

    You know not a single principle of business.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 2:29 pm

    Oh, and you are a shining paragon of economic studiousness. Except in the multitudes of ways in which you are not. Repeat this with me, “If Lowes had not received enough pressure from the market to pull their advertising, they would not have pulled it. If Lowes had received enough market pressure to pull their advertising, they would have.”

    Are you saying that Lowes caved in to something other than economic pressure?

    You know not a single principle of business.


  151. Justice Says:

    idiots like terrific jonesy think it’s perfectly OK to LIE and slam advertisers for KOS, but have a wimpy crybaby fit if the same is done to their lying scumbag pal Olielly’s advertisers. LOL
    Rethugs are such incredible WIMPS. They fall for all the fear mongering Bushie does and they piss and moan if people exercise the SAME techniques as OLielly does.
    Grow some backbone you wimps.
    Lowe’s is smart, they KNOW that the MAJORITY of Americans are NOT NEOCON IDIOTS. They know damn well who pays their profits. Im glad people are getting smart and are refusing to give their money to these right wing jerks. Their corporations will fail because of it, yippee.
    Gotta love a FREE MARKET.
    Lowe’s is better anyway, Hole Depot SUCKS and has NO customer service, besides they hire imcompetent morons who have no training.
    I spend all my money ONLY with companies who do NOT support the neocon/theocon agenda in ANY WAY. right winger christian nutballs don’t deserve ONE DIME of any true American’s money. Any supporter of this administration or this illegal war is UNAMERICAN.


  152. Justice Says:

    I received a personal letter from Kodak when I wrote complaining of their adverts for that disgusting woman Ann Coulter. They wrote saying they had pulled ALL ad’s for her or for ANYTHING she is involved in! They thanked me for my patronage and thanked me for writing them. They said they had received thousands of complaints and were writing to let me know they listened.

    So add Kodak to the list of NON RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA supporters and buy their products.


  153. dbadass Says:

    So add Kodak to the list of NON RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA supporters and buy their products.

    Comment by Justice — July 28, 2007 @ 2:42 pm

    Do they still crimp their film canisters do they can not be reused? Have they taken real steps to address the resource waste involved with their disposables? I too was once involved in dialogue with this company. It may be that they have come up to spend since then. They do offer many opportunities to the many college kids around Rochester atleast when I was one


  154. JoeySoCal Says:

    Businesses shouldn’t be forced into the position of making political decisions. They will (and should) seek to draw a customer base in the finest mediums. Fox has a prominent viewership, so it’s one of those places.

    Lefties, you have no brain.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:19 pm

    Tell that to O’rally and his ‘Boycott France’ Campaign, you effing tool.


  155. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Moderation — July 28, 2007 @ 2:34 pm

    A few protesting hippies shall not dominate a successful industry. They are business haters and are in the minority.

    Why can’t you go find another tree to hug?


  156. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by Overtroll 7 — July 28, 2007 @ 2:33 pm

    Typical lefty expert at saying absolutely nothing.


  157. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by JoeySoCal — July 28, 2007 @ 3:05 pm

    France is not an apolitical, private industry. It is an entity subject to political challenge.


  158. Zed Lefflin Says:

    O’Reilly runs ads on Countdown, MSNBC is glad to take his money…..OReilly has balls as big as wattermelons…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA


  159. dbadass Says:

    Why can’t you go find another tree to hug?

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 3:05 pm

    Sort of primitive or stupid by intent? Why all the fluffy campaigns by big biz to show their greenness if the power of environmental awareness is so out of the main? Dinosaur?


  160. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Why can’t you go find another tree to hug?

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 3:05 pm

    Why can’t you find another blog to pollute with your intellectual feces?


  161. gummitch Says:

    France is not an apolitical, private industry. It is an entity subject to political challenge.

    Comment by CT Scan

    Best Buy. Crate & Barrel.

    Both private companies that Bill O’Lielly urged customers to boycott because they weren’t doing “Merry Christmas” in a way that he approved.

    Hypocrisy much? I mean, along with your lame excuse for why boycotting French products from private companies who happen to be French, is OK.


  162. Marcus Aruelius Says:

    Comment by JoeySoCal — July 28, 2007 @ 3:05 pm

    France is not an apolitical, private industry. It is an entity subject to political challenge.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 3:08 pm

    So is the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about. You goes into business, you takes your chances. Support a political party, and you’re politial - private or not. Damn, you’re stupid.


  163. barfly Says:

    A few protesting hippies shall not dominate a successful industry. They are business haters and are in the minority.

    Comment by CT Scan

    Tell that to Subaru, who touts their environmental policies and standards in TV ads.

    Do you consider them stupid?


  164. JoeySoCal Says:

    France is not an apolitical, private industry. It is an entity subject to political challenge.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 3:08 pm

    “Apolitical entity blah blah blah…” Oh please spare me your fraudulent articulation of the hallucinations in your mind, you little trick. A corporation is a *legal person*, a legal person is a political entity. A *corporate citizen* is inextricable from politics. Maybe you could ask the lobbyists on K-street to explain that to you in baby terms. God, where do they manufacture you cavemen?


  165. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by JoeySoCal — July 28, 2007 @ 3:21 pm

    The same place they manufacture slime ball libecrats.


  166. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by barfly — July 28, 2007 @ 3:15 pm

    In this case, they shape their products around gas prices in order to keep their customer base. It has nothing to do libecrat propaganda.


  167. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    They will (and should) seek to draw a customer base in the finest mediums. Fox has a prominent viewership, so it’s one of those places.

    Lefties, you have no brain.

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:19 pm

    And yet I find it ironic that the customer base Fox seeks to draw are the people who have no brain. So why would they be looking for acerebralists aong the Left? They aren’t the ones watching Fox for their news. Maybe just to laugh at the things they say, but not for news.


  168. ckerst Says:

    Now I don’t feel so bad about the balance on my Lowes card.


  169. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by JoeySoCal — July 28, 2007 @ 3:21 pm

    Somebody has to take on big government’s interference in business. I suppose that’s K-street’s job.


  170. Bill W Says:

    Good for Lowes.

    Home depot, on the other hand, has taken the opposite approach:

    Home Depot wants you to shut up
    http://www.americablog.com/ 2007/ 07/ home-depot-wants-you-to-shut-up.html

    It’s no secret why. Home Depot has long been major contributors to Bush and the Republican party.


  171. CT Scan Says:

    Comment by gummitch — July 28, 2007 @ 3:14 pm

    I’m not defending Bill O’Reilly. I’m defending the advertisers from unjust criticism to flaunt their business in high-rated areas. FOX network is not exempt.

    You don’t like Fox’s take on the news, so why take it out on the advertiser?

    Hypocrisy much?


  172. gummitch Says:

    I’m not defending Bill O’Reilly. I’m defending the advertisers from unjust criticism to flaunt their business in high-rated areas. FOX network is not exempt.

    You don’t like Fox’s take on the news, so why take it out on the advertiser?

    Hypocrisy much?

    Comment by CT Scan

    What hypocrisy? Putting economic pressure on a company to ask them not to support a propaganda network is scarcely hypocrisy.

    And where were you when O’Reilly was urging boycotts of companies he didn’t approve of? You still haven’t responded to that question.


  173. Bill W Says:

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

    Um, then why was it OK for Faux News take it out on Jet Blue for sponsoring Yearly Kos?

    O’Lielly started it.


  174. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Um, then why was it OK for Faux News take it out on Jet Blue for sponsoring Yearly Kos?

    O’Lielly started it.

    Comment by Bill W — July 28, 2007

    I asked one of these friggin’ trolls that same exact question probably a hundred posts ago and never got an answer. Don’t hold your breath, Bill.


  175. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    You don’t like Fox’s take on the news, so why take it out on the advertiser?

    Hypocrisy much?

    Comment by CT Scan

    Hmmm… the trolls here keep telling us we’re just a delusional fringe minority in this country… if THAT’s true, then how do us few irrational nuts have the power and the clout to bring big, interstate corporations to their knees? Just asking…


  176. Overtroll 7 Says:

    ALREADY, THE TROLLS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by CT Scan — July 28, 2007 @ 1:42 pm

    That was more than 100 posts ago, and you’re still hanging out here getting punked… Another ‘Mission Accomplished’ moment…


  177. michael Says:

    “Prove it. Statement is opinion - lacks factual basis. I said cogent. Try again.

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 28, 2007″

    Try reading this?