Voter caging and how it works.
By on Jul 29th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Voter caging and how it works.
PBS’s NOW examined documents and evidence that point to a “Republican Party plan [in 2004] designed to keep Democrats from voting, allegedly by targeting people based on their race and ethnicity with key battleground states like Ohio and Florida of particular interest.” NOW revealed “e-mails between National Republican Party headquarters and Ohio State Republican Party officials” that talked about plans to compile voter caging lists. Watch the video of the program here.
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Two stories this weekend presented different faces on the unwavering – and perhaps criminal – zeal of the Bush White House to acquire and maintain power. On Friday, PBS Now reported how a massive Republican “vote caging” scheme drove targeted minority (read Democratic) voters in key 2004 battleground states. And today, the Washington Post revealed that Bush HHS appointee William R. Steiger blocked the release of Surgeon General Richard Carmona’s 2006 global health report for purely political reasons.
For the details, see:
July 29th, 2007 at 3:22 pm“Suppressing Voters – and Science.”
It’s to be expected. Only idiots and ciphers would throw their votes away on a dry-drunk, coke-addled deserter, so KKKarl had to set up his very own Stasi. I think the importance of the Bush family’s longtime connections to the Nazis is too often overlooked, but, again, when the conservative mass media is in the pockets of the corporate welfare state, this is the inevitable result, which always leads to such events as tne French and American revolutions. too bad the righties are so far behind on the evolutionary scale that we still need to go through this horror.
July 29th, 2007 at 3:26 pmDildo Bill O’Rielly recently pointed out that the “left” is trying to destroy the current ruling paradigm by attacking the all white male, Christian power structure.
The Rove’s and the O’Rielly’s don’t like what they are seeing in their rearview mirror.
-GSD
July 29th, 2007 at 3:37 pm…attacking the all white male, Christian power structure.
Comment by GSD — July 29, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
Sure gotta feel sorry for them, don’t you? ;)
July 29th, 2007 at 3:40 pmGremlin = liberals who post at Thinkprogress
July 29th, 2007 at 3:43 pmIf you’ll indulge me while I digress from the topic at hand, I have a little story to tell. A couple days ago I visited the site RedState.com just to see, for once, what they were saying on the other side of the blogosphere. It was basically what you would expect. The usual right-wing talking points, ranting and raving (not that we do that or anything, of course). But at the same time, I’ll admit, it was a mite intriguing. Here I was cavorting with the enemy, so to speak.
So, for the fun of it I decided to enter the fray and join the discussion. I commented. I blogged with abandon. I danced and weaved my arguments with great passion, and parried when attacked, which was often. It was just what I was in the mood for. All was going so well, I almost forgot about the potential pitfalls…
And then, it happened. Quite abruptly and without warning (despite the fact that their rules state they will give notice first) I was banned. Upon trying to login at one point, I was informed that my username was blocked or deactivated. My heart sank. I couldn’t believe it. Surely this was a mistake. They weren’t actually THAT petty and cowardly, were they? But sadly, apparently it was so.
And yet, I had experienced such heights of joy, I couldn’t surrender so easily….I quickly created a new email address and lickity-split I was back in action, blogging merrily away amongst the hordes of Fox-defenders and Bush-lovers, defying their simplistic arguments with actual evidence and critical thinking.
This was where I wanted to be! This was my calling! Maybe, just maybe, I could manage to turn one or two away from the ravages of Darth Cheney, and give them a glimpse of the light! Yes, I would show them the truth, and they would love me for it!!
But no, it was not meant to be. Tragically, it happened again. After successfully sending through a particularly witty comment, I went on to write yet another response, satisfying those deep primal urges like only blogging can. And then, I was denied. My comment failed to post this time. I was informed, once again, that my username was no longer recognized, barely an hour after it had been created.
But it was even worse than that, my friends–much, much worse. I can barely even speak (errr…blog..) the words. So, I’ll just shout it out loud, for all to hear. I then tried to reload their homepage, to see if at least my previous comments still remained on the site, only to encounter……stark whiteness. Nothing. A mysterious, unrelenting vaccuum staring out at me from my dusty pc. THEY BLOCKED MY COMPUTER!!!!!!!! The horror!!
Seriously, they blocked my computer from entering their site whatsoever. (Luddite that I am, I didn’t even know this was possible.) And no, folks, I was not using loads of four-letter words, threatening people with metaphorical uzis or suggesting (like, for example, Bill O’Reilly once did on the air) that terrorists attacking a certain American city would be just fine. No, I was simply blogging away as bloggers do, opinionated and quite possibly annoying, but not much worse than that. But apparently, if you don’t follow in single-file lockstep behind their right-wing credo, then you are not allowed to exist in their corner of the blogosphere. Some democratic, free speech forum they have over there.
So, my fellow progressives, liberals, dems, rebels-with-a-cause, I’m calling for action. If you feel the call, (or rather hear it, I guess, smell it, whatever) go to RedState.com. And……blog! Comment! Opine! Because, apparently, that is what they fear most.
And by the way, if you happen to be curious who this offending liberal is (because my comments might still be up there, they were from my first username) it’s gabejedmo (or else gabejedmo1, my second ill-fated username). Look around and you may find the faded shadow of my ghost lurking in the corners of that website, somewhat dejected, but certainly not down for the count. I’m simply keeping my profile low, I tell you; awaiting the most auspicious time to come forth again and make my presence known. Because, god willing, I shall not cower in vain. I will not be pushed around by people in suits and ties, with perfectly-cropped side-burns and glaringly-white teeth, and expensive watches, and fancy, silken underwear and large belt buckles and….well, whatever right-wingers wear. I will be back…I WILL BE BACK!!! But if not, maybe you will redeem me, stand up for freedom all across this great nation of bloggers and help fight against the voices of tyranny and insanity (seriously) and blog a little for me. RedState.com. Check it out. And let them feel the wrath (but in a generally polite sorta way) of the liberal.
July 29th, 2007 at 3:44 pmGreg Palast rocks – was this the first time he was ever on US airwaves?
July 29th, 2007 at 3:47 pmAh, the corporate imperial oil-nazi Bush form of government in action, destroying our American democracy as soon as possible (ASAP). The Bush crime family has several generations of connections to the German Nazi Party and Adolph Hitler: Grandfather of GWB, Prescott Bush and Great-grandfather, George Herbert Walker, supported the German Nazis and Hitler with trade and technology in the 1930s and the 1940s until President Franklin D. Roosevelt stopped them with an enforcement of the “Trading with the Enemy Act.” What a family of traitors to America, traitors to our Constitution and traitors to our Bill of Rights…
July 29th, 2007 at 3:48 pmAnd that was in 2004. You think it’s going to happen the same way in 2008?
I don’t know how it’s going to be done, but I am sure that 2008 will be the end of the democratic party one way or another. The system can take only so much abuse and the current D-Congress is already taking us off course.
July 29th, 2007 at 3:50 pmWell, the think about this is, minorities are more likely to be criminals than non-minorities. So there it is logical that those affected were minorities. Also, criminals are more likely to vote for Dems,
http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/4850294p-4452879c.html
In fact, studies show that felons are smarter than libs:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20070704/cm_ucac/studiesshowfelonssmarterthanliberals
so I can see why the Lefties here might be upset.
July 29th, 2007 at 3:52 pmThe gremlins like to make up stuff as they go along. Bush kicked their ass in 2004, so the gremlins have to make up some reason why. Notice that the gremlins don’t point to any “caging” in ‘06. What happened, the GOP forgot to cage?
July 29th, 2007 at 3:55 pmLiberals at ThinkProgress:
http://www.monsterjones.com/Gremlin.gif
July 29th, 2007 at 3:57 pmYep. This is just another witch hunt from the Dems.
July 29th, 2007 at 3:58 pmBreaking news from the NYT:
Boy, I’m glad that raging debate has been put to rest!
July 29th, 2007 at 3:58 pmAll those people who died for all the be able to vote only to get to this. It lets Americans know who the real enemy is of racism. African American pay taxes, service in the Military and even built the White House yet their still not good enough to vote. I know Boner is proud of his State for denying minorities the right to vote. Boner will start crying and ask for forgiveness then do it again. Karl Rove is nothing more that trash that the idiot coward George W. Bush gave a job. Daddy Bush kicked Karl out for lying and cheating but the idiot son brought him back. Karl Rove play baby Bush for the idiot he is. When the attack hit the World Trade Center it didn’t matter what color you are. When the country called for men/women to join the Military it didn’t matter what color you were only that you serve your country. Now the Republicans are saying those same black Americans can’t vote and are ready to take away all their rights. The World sees what the White House means by Democracy.
July 29th, 2007 at 3:59 pm“too bad the righties are so far behind on the evolutionary scale that we still need to go through this horror.
Comment by ronjazz — July 29, 2007″
After reading some of your idiotic liberal posts here one can only judge that it’s the liberals who are so far behind on the evolutionary scale!
July 29th, 2007 at 4:00 pmAnn Coulter and Trent Lott? You finally make sense Mr. President.
I have a suggestion for you. Try examining the evidence, on any issue, and form your own opinion. I think that you will find it more satisfying than regurgitating the opinions of insensate beasts.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:02 pmis it a sin to drink beer on a sunday afternoon?
July 29th, 2007 at 4:03 pmComment by Gabejedmo
You’re obviously making all that up! Wingnuts love freedom of speech and would never ban people simply for having a different opinion.
But, yes, par for the course in wingnutland. While here at TP we have to put up with the reject wingnuts that are even too stupid to find the wingnut sites.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:05 pmDildo Bill O’Rielly recently pointed out that the “left†is trying to destroy the current ruling paradigm by attacking the all white male, Christian power structure.
The Rove’s and the O’Rielly’s don’t like what they are seeing in their rearview mirror.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
It really has become the “culture war”, as the rich old white men try desperately to cling to power. Eventually they’ll be gone, but expect them to go down viciously. In all likelihood, they’ll sow the earth with salt and do their best to destroy the economy on their way to Dubai.
But this is what terrifies them so much about the candidacy of a Black man and a woman. Things are just too topsy-turvy for the neanderthals.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:08 pmOops… let me fix my typos:
Well, the thing about this is, minorities are more likely to be criminals than non-minorities. So it is logical that those in question here were minorities.
Also, criminals are more likely to vote for Dems,
http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/ news/ local/ story/ 4850294p-4452879c.html
So it is dishonest to say that the Republicans were intentionally trying to keep dems from voting. They were just making sure that criminals didn’t try to cheat the system. On that note:
studies show that felons are smarter than libs:
July 29th, 2007 at 4:08 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ucac/ 20070704/ cm_ucac/ studiesshowfelonssmarterthanliberals
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is it a sin to drink beer on a sunday afternoon?
Comment by drinkypoo
All depends on the beer. If you’re drinking Coors or MGD or Bud, then yes, it is a mortal sin.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:09 pmLet me fix those links:
Also, criminals are more likely to vote for Dems,
http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/4850294p-4452879c.html
So it is dishonest to say that the Republicans were intentionally trying to keep dems from voting. They were just making sure that criminals didn’t try to cheat the system. On that note:
studies show that felons are smarter than libs:
July 29th, 2007 at 4:10 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20070704/cm_ucac/studiesshowfelonssmarterthanliberals
I thought it would soon be time to investigate the activitities of Ken Blackwell, Sup. of Elections, Ohio, 2004 who also functioned as Co-Chair, Bush/Cheney 04. Vote caging is the least of it all with Diebold’s complicity and rigged voting machinery well in place in Ohio in 08. THIS NEEDS AN IMMEDIATE AND FULL INVESTIGATION NOW if we are to feel that our votes will count and not be hacked again in 08. We now also KNOW that Bush stole the election in Florida in 2000 and need to investigate and indict, if found responsible, his brother Jeb and Katherine Harris.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:10 pmTheir evil doings in 2000 and 2004 are well known vis-a-vis DRE tampering and the whistleblowers are flying out of the woodwork in Ohio now.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:11 pmSorry to point this out folks, but this vote caging scheme is too complicated for 90-98% of the American public to grasp. Bummer about that whole representative democracy thing, but it isn’t like anything has actually been done to get the government off the Corporate teat. Don’t worry though, capitalism does just fine under a dictatorship. Maybe someday you’ll be rich too. What will you spend your 30 pieces of silver on?
July 29th, 2007 at 4:11 pmVote caging is a high crime but minor when one compares the huge and diabolical plot to corrupt our entire election system.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:12 pm#26 While “vote caging” may be too complex for some; “vote hacking” is not. Everyone knows that a piece of hardware is only as safe and legit as the software inside. Diebold knows all about how to make their machinery either “safe” or “vulnerable”. They had an intentional vulnerability in their DRE’s in 04.
go to http://www.blackboxvoting.org (a bipartisan voter’s rights site which details how easily these machines can be hacked as well as their award nominee flick about investigating the problem in “Hacking Democracy” on HBO.
Also, for vote tampering evidence and latest date on the evidence, go to http://www.bradblog.com
July 29th, 2007 at 4:14 pmIf you started from the question, “What would the bitterest mean woman in the world believe?†and went from there, everything michael writes would make perfect sense.
H/T Jim Henley
July 29th, 2007 at 4:15 pmIn fact, Dems put felons on their payroll when election time comes around:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/6/23/171443.shtml
July 29th, 2007 at 4:18 pmComment by veritas — July 29, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Don’t you mean ‘data’ in your final sentence? I would assume that the latest ‘date’ would be today.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:18 pmAl Gore was the rightful winner of the 2000 election till the Supreme Court handed a victory to Bush instead of allowing a recount in FL. The election was stolen from Gore with the aid of then Secretary of State Harris and Jeb Bush. John Kerry was the rightful winner of the 2004 election. Then OH Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell threw thousands of provisional ballots in districts that were heavily African American and democratic. Bush was able to claim a victory that was unjust. Blackwell betrayed his own people by making sure that democratic and districts with heavy African American populations had fewer voting machines than districts that had conservative leaning voters.
In 2006 both Katherine Harris and Blackwell were handed embarrassing defeats for their respective seats. They also made sure that there was no paper trail of the votes in 2004. The Diebold company that supplied the voting machines had made contributions to republicans. This time however the democrats will win the White House due to the unpopularity of the Iraq war and Bush himself. Democrats handed the republicans their worst electoral defeat in the 2006 Congressional elections and will do so again in 2008.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:21 pmIt amazes me Republicans as a rule suppress votes. It’s so anti-American.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:26 pmHillary’s breasts.
Asset or liability?
July 29th, 2007 at 4:32 pmIsn’t it the just heighth of hypocrisy to say that as a Republican you are fighting for democracy in Iraq so that Iraqis can vote in free and fair elections, but you are working overtime to deprive AMERICANS at home from their right to vote in your own democracy in free and fair elections…?? How in the heck do you justify that one?
And if you are so confident in your message, your vision, and your numbers, then why the need to resort to voter caging and targeting mainly minorities and soldiers (who are the ones overseas fighting that war in Iraq ’spreading democracy’)?
How can you say you are fighting to spread democracy overseas when you are working so hard to destroy democracy at home?
I realize the people that are doing this voter caging and other voter suppression practices are a segment of the Rep. party, but this practice needs to be shut down and people need to be held accountable. It is a crime to deprive voters of their right to vote in this country.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:34 pmComment by Mr. President
Source: NewsMax
Too funny. Just short for “Right out of Rove’s butt.”
July 29th, 2007 at 4:36 pmIf Americans come to understand their voting practices are no longer fair or transparent and feel they can no longer trust the system, we no longer live in a democracy. We need a uniform (across every state), verifiable voting system and we better get going on it now.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:37 pmDidn’t Gregg Palast report this for the BBC in 2004? Well better late than never I guess. So which SCLM outlet will pick up the story. Holding my breath in anticipation.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:50 pmGremlin = liberals who post at Thinkprogress
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — July 29, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Idiot = Brassmask trying to appear witty and relevant at TP.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:52 pmhttp://www.newsmax.com/ archives/ articles/ 2004/ 6/ 23/ 171443.shtml
Comment by Mr. President — July 29, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Someone has to put all those Repubs to work once they get out of prison, or they’ll just go back to being, well, Repubs!
July 29th, 2007 at 4:54 pmJ U S T
P L A I N
G U I L T Y
July 29th, 2007 at 4:54 pmI have a suggestion for you. Try examining the evidence, on any issue, and form your own opinion. I think that you will find it more satisfying than regurgitating the opinions of insensate beasts.
Comment by pete
Jesus Pete haven’t you figured out yet that these troll have no interest in a discussion based on fact. They are here to disrupt and everytime someone responds to them thier actions are validated.
July 29th, 2007 at 4:55 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ucac/ 20070704/ cm_ucac/ studiesshowfelonssmarterthanliberals
Comment by Mr. President — July 29, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
“Saudis aren’t Moslems”
“I think parts of the Constitution are silly”
“I don’t vote because I don’t trust the government”
Do you honestly think ANYONE here takes you seriously at this point?
July 29th, 2007 at 4:56 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20070704/cm_ucac/studiesshowfelonssmarterthanliberals
Comment by Mr. President — July 29, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
…….
Do you honestly think ANYONE here takes you seriously at this point?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 29, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
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Read the article, don’t take my word for it.
Here is the link again:
July 29th, 2007 at 4:58 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20070704/cm_ucac/studiesshowfelonssmarterthanliberals
Well, the thing about this is, minorities are more likely to be criminals than non-minorities. So it is logical that those in question here were minorities.
Comment by Mr. President
Nice… overt racism. Any particluar minorities you have in mind? I wouldn’t want to infer anything in your brilliant rambling that isn’t there. Also demonstrates next to no real understanding of human nature.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:00 pmDo you honestly think ANYONE here takes you seriously at this point?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 29, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
You forgot “Slavery saves $$$$$$$.”
July 29th, 2007 at 5:01 pmAfter reading some of your idiotic liberal posts here one can only judge that it’s the liberals who are so far behind on the evolutionary scale!
Comment by michae
liberal posts are all based on facts… facts of the here and now and about what is important to our country. Haven’t you noticed your heroes on the right running for pres are stuck on wedge issues such as abortion, immigration, gay marriage… pathetic … instead of trying to fix our country, they are still on the divide and conquer method hoping maybe somehow someway this tactic will help them get the presidency. Very sad… this is all you to the right have – manipulate, smear, cause fear, cause anger… nothing really substantial about ways of fixing this mess Bush dragged us into.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:03 pmI got banned from a neocon forum for using metaphors. Wingers are terrified of metaphors.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:05 pmYou forgot “Slavery saves $$$$$$$.â€
Comment by Egreggious — July 29, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
Good one, Eg. Thanks for catching it.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:08 pmWingers are terrified of truth, facts…. all they have is smear, crating fear and anger and pray the public is dumbed down enough in order to fall for their wedge issues.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:10 pmRead the article, don’t take my word for it.
Here is the link again:
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ucac/ 20070704/ cm_ucac/ studiesshowfelonssmarterthanliberals
Comment by Mr. President — July 29, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
Of course, you misunderstand my post. What else is new. I could care less what you’ve linked to. You’re proven yourself to be such a complete Horse’s A** at this point that I doubt ANYONE here takes you seriouly, no matter what you’ve linked to.
The Saudis aren’t Moslems?
The Constitution is silly?
Why are you even here, other than to make an annoying pain in the ass of yourself?
July 29th, 2007 at 5:11 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 29, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
again,
Read the article, don’t take my word for it.
felons are smarter than libs
Here is the link again:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20070704/cm_ucac/studiesshowfelonssmarterthanliberals
July 29th, 2007 at 5:15 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ucac/ 20070704/ cm_ucac/ studiesshowfelonssmarterthanliberals
Comment by Mr. President
Saudis aren’t Moslems
The Constitution is silly
I don’t trust the government so I don’t vote.
Why are you even here, other than to show off what a stone fool you are?
July 29th, 2007 at 5:20 pmAny one that thinks the constitution is silly, can over look the defacing, ripping and shredding of the constitution we are witnessing today belongs with the terrorists.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:23 pmPee, you are simultaneously saying that felons ARE liberals, and felons ARE smarter than liberals.
And, since there is absolutely no argument that liberals are smarter than non-liberals, felons are also smarter than non-liberals as well.
Don’t try to dispute this. You are not as smart as me.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:29 pmDon’t try to dispute this. You are not as smart as me.
Comment by Egreggious — July 29, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
You can’t cut across the blather in Mr P’s mind. He’s a solipsistic fraud who only hears his own voices.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:32 pmNo.
I said:
Also, criminals are more likely to vote for Dems,
and
felons are smarter than libs
While all felons are criminals, not all criminals are felons.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:33 pmComment by Mr. President — July 29, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
You missed the most important part of my post:
Don’t try to dispute this. You are not as smart as me.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:37 pm#57
You didn’t watch the video, did you, jackass. Try just once refuting something that they said in the program. It would be especially impressive if you could even back up your argument with facts. No, not some crap from NewsMax. Real honest to goodness facts. Good luck.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:42 pmWhile all felons are criminals, not all criminals are felons.
Comment by Mr. President — July 29, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
You can’t cut across the blather in Mr P’s mind. He’s a solipsistic fraud who only hears his own voices.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 29, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
July 29th, 2007 at 5:50 pmall the ugly, loudmouth, head up their arse losers from High School all are now thugs for the GOP.
July 29th, 2007 at 7:24 pmTrolls who hang around here Im sure look like Jonah Goldberg and Rove. Ever notice how these creeps all resemble each other? Ugly creeps who never fit in and can’t handle freedom of speech on their own sites, yet come here where we encourage free speech, even from these idiots.
They rigged elections and tried to force false voter fraud cases because they are LOSERS and they all know it. Why else do they have to lie and cheat to get into office?
They know on a level playing field, they will NEVER WIN AGAIN.
I would like to go up to these people who sent and recieved these e-mails and ask them how they would feel if I went up to them and just decided, on my own, to pull their right to vote. That’s it. Your vote doesn’t count. Hell, you can’t even vote. How do these people go to bed at night? How do they live with themselves? We all are taught right from wrong from when we are young kids. Don’t they know its wrong. Just plain wrong. I wonder if these people will sit around when they are 75 yrs old and sitting in a nursing home thinking about what they have done in their lives and think about how wrong doing this is.
July 29th, 2007 at 9:34 pmComment by Gabejedmo — July 29, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
Don’t whine about being banned from a blog. I spoke against the Imus firing and the “fairness doctrine” on the democrats.org blog and after 2 posts was banned. I used absolutely no foul language whatsoever. I chose another name, and again, after saying something along the lines of being against the fairness doctrine was bannished, this time for good. Here’s the kicker, I (was) a Democrat. After that silencing of a differing opinion I am not.
July 30th, 2007 at 1:10 amComment by had enough — July 29, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
You got that right. Between the left’s utter stupidity; bUSH’s complete incompetance, ignoring the Constitution, claiming Executive privelage on anything that he is questioned on; I don’t believe I will ever vote again. Both parties can go screw, they bring nothing to the table.
July 30th, 2007 at 1:14 am“With so many felons being Democrats, the party might want to think about changing its mascot from a donkey to a jailbird.
Needless to say, Democrats are neurotically obsessed with restoring the right to vote to felons. But the ex-cons themselves rarely express any interest in regaining this particular right. What ex-cons want is the right to own a gun. “Felons,” Lott says, “who frequently live in poor, high-crime neighborhoods, want to be able to defend themselves.”
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Way to go Mr. President
HeyooOOoOoOoOoOOOOOOOOOooooooooooO!
July 30th, 2007 at 1:29 amhttp://www.newsmax.com/ archives/ articles/ 2004/ 6/ 23/ 171443.shtml
Comment by Mr. President — July 29, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Great. An article that you call credible right above an ad for the even “more credible” male organ enhancement product!
July 30th, 2007 at 1:53 amNeedless to say, Democrats are neurotically obsessed with restoring the right to vote to felons.
Comment by Flaco
Thanks, Flakehead, for telling me that I am neurotically obsessed with a matter that has seldom passed through my mind. Yes, I am sure that you know better than I what obsesses my liberal friends and me.
July 30th, 2007 at 2:03 am(sarcasm off)
The gremlins like to make up stuff as they go along. Bush kicked their ass in 2004, so the gremlins have to make up some reason why. Notice that the gremlins don’t point to any “caging†in ‘06. What happened, the GOP forgot to cage?
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — July 29, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
The GOP may or may not have engaged in voter caging in 2006. It’s possible that they engaged in voter caging, and just couldn’t weed out enough Dem votes. Hey, you can’t disenfranchise everyone.
Some possibilities:
1) There were a lot of angry voters who planned to vote Democratic — too many to shake out of the system by caging.
2) Many voters who lived in white suburban areas (unlikely to be hit by caging) were dissatisfied with the way things have been going in Washington and switched from Rep to Dem in their voting.
3) Determined voters who got hit with the “fraudulent voter” charge stepped up, challenged back, and got reinstated. Yes, the election was that important.
4) Any combination of the above.
Note I only said these are possibilities. I don’t like to make accusations without some kind of evidence. We do have some evidence that caging went on in 2004, as outlined by the PBS show. The only evidence of caging in 2006 is that pre-election polls pointed to on overwhelming victory by the Democrats (http://www.pollingreport.com/2006.htm) and while both houses did switch to the Dems, the margin of seats was closer than the polls suggested they might be. Raises suspicions, but not irrefutable (but where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire, so stay tuned — stuff is still shaking out).
And regarding your other point — Bush did not “kick ass” in 2004, he won narrowly. If you don’t know what a proper ass-kick looks like, check out Roosevelt vs. Landon (1936), Johnson vs. Goldwater (1964), Reagan vs. Mondale (1984).
July 30th, 2007 at 7:51 amBrass:
2004 v. 2006? Yes, I think that the Repubs did fail to cage. I think they thought they had it, (Kkkarl’s math, remember?) and they lacked the personnel. For example, I worked the courthouse in a major eastern city for the state Democratic committee during both elections. In 2004 the Repub lawyers were there in force, trying to impound machines, deny voters (who often had legal photo id, leases, gas bills etc,) etc. In 2006 they sent a junior associate and never raised an eyebrow.
Given the poor databases maintained by most election bureaus, and the very common names on these lists, I think that voter caging is tantamount to an illegal conspiracy to violate the federal and state election laws.
P.S. most states do not bar felons from voting. So your comment about criminals is, for the most part, not on point.
July 30th, 2007 at 8:34 am“If voting could change things they’d make it illegal.â€
The 2000 elections proved our system was broken. We’ve had seven years to put in place a verifiable uniform process and nothing has been done. If anything it’s gotten worse. Think, how fricking hard can it be to place a vote and have it counted properly? This isn’t rocket-science. Yet all efforts to fix this problem have been abandoned. Even the simple things like voting on Saturday or scrapping the antiquated Electoral College haven’t been addressed.
Now I ask you, with this obvious evidence of corruption of our election system what makes anyone think the next election won’t be rigged? Government of the people my ass.
“Those that vote don’t count those that count the votes do.†Stalin.
This country is a farce. We don’t even have a country. We have multi-mega-international corporations that own our government who put on a Dog (Dems) & Pony (Repubs) Show to give us the illusion we have some say in the affairs at hand. And the ignorance of the public to keep falling for this charade would be laughable it wasn’t so tragic.
The Founding Fathers warned us against everything we’ve turned into. We’re not even a Democracy. We weren’t meant to be. We’re a Republic, or at least we use to be. The FF warned against political parties. They warned against a standing army. They warned against foreign intervention. They warned against career politicians. They warned against a centralized bank. And they warned us that this fragile system of government could be easily taken over from within by forces directly opposed to all that the Constitution implies.
They warned us against all these things and we failed – miserably.
July 30th, 2007 at 9:22 am