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Cheney Says He Is A ‘Unique Creature,’ Refuses To Say He Is Part Of Executive Branch

cheney030905.jpgIn June, House investigators revealed that Vice President Dick Cheney had exempted his office from an executive order order designed to safeguard classified national security information by claiming that the Office of the Vice President is not an “entity within the executive branch.”

After Congressional Democrats called his bluff by threatening to withhold funding from his office, the White House was forced to roll back their rhetoric, claiming “that the rationale had been the view of the vice president’s lawyers, not Cheney himself.”

But in an interview with CBS News’ Mark Knoller today, Cheney refused to say he was a member of the executive branch:

Mark Knoller: Are you part of the executive branch, sir?

Vice President Cheney: Well, the job of Vice President is an interesting one, because you have a foot in both the executive and the legislative branch. Obviously, I have an office in the West Wing of the White House, I am an adviser to the president, I sit as a member of the National Security Council. At the same time, under the constitution, I have legislative responsibilities. I’m actually paid by the Senate, not by the executive. [...]

KNOLLER: But you are principally a part of the executive branch, are you not?

CHENEY: Well, I suppose you could argue it either way. The fact is I do work in both branches.

Cheney conceded that he was part of the executive branch during the two hours and five minutes he served as acting President two weeks ago while Bush was in surgery. Throughout the entire interview, however, he refused to say whether or not the Office of the Vice President itself was classified as part of the executive branch.

Cheney has been happy to treat the Office of the Vice President as part of the executive branch when it suits his political purposes:

- In 2001, the White House argued that a probe into Cheney’s energy task force “would unconstitutionally interfere with the functioning of the executive branch.”

- Cheney himself said that the probe concerned “meetings in the Executive Branch between the Vice President and other individuals.”

- On April 9, 2003, Cheney lauded a recent court ruling, stating, “I think it restored some of the legitimate authority of the executive branch, the president and the vice president, to be able to conduct their business.”

Now that the political tempest over Cheney’s exemption of his office has subsided a bit, the Vice President is back to claiming he is a branch of government all to himself — or as he says it, “a unique creature” in constitutional government.

The full interview can be heard here.

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Transcript:

MARK KNOLLER: Another issue, why did your office stop filing reports about your handling of classified material with the National Archives?

DICK CHENEY: Well, there’s an executive order that covers that was issued in 2003 that makes it clear that the vice president’s to be treated the same as the president. And neither one of them is to file those reports with the national archives.

KNOLLER: There’s no cover up?

CHENEY: Nothing to cover up.

KNOLLER: There was an aide in your office who said one of the reasons you weren’t abiding by that executive order is that you’re really not part of the executive branch. Are you part of the executive branch, sir?

CHENEY: Well, the job of Vice President is an interesting one, because you have a goot in both the executive and the legislative branch. Obviously, I have an office in the West Wing of the White House, I am an adviser to the president, I sit as a member of the National Security Council. At the same time, under the constitution, I have legislative responsibilities. I’m actually paid by the Senate, not by the executive. I sit as the President of the Senate, the presiding officer of the Senate. I cast tie breaking votes in the Senate. So the vice president is kind of a unique creature, if you will, in that you’ve got a foot in both branches.

KNOLLER: But you are principally a part of the executive branch, are you not?

CHENEY: Well, I suppose you could argue it either way. The fact is I do work in both branches. Under the Constitution, I’m assigned responsibilities in the legislative branch. Then the president obviously gives me responsibilities in the executive branch. And I perform both those functions, although I think it’d be fair to say I spent more time on executive matters than legislative matters.

KNOLLER: But two Saturdays ago, for two hours and five minutes, you were technically acting President of the United States when Mr. Bush invoked the 25th amendment. So that certainly made you a part of the executive branch.

CHENEY: Correct.



415 Responses to “Cheney Says He Is A ‘Unique Creature,’ Refuses To Say He Is Part Of Executive Branch”

  1. Egreggious says:

    Pee, you can listen to the entire interview!

    Get out the peanut butter!


  2. Jay Randal says:

    Cheney will go down in history as the most sinister of all the VPs in US!


  3. Marie says:

    Master of obfuscation.


  4. Egreggious says:

    Cheney, the Unique Creature.


  5. Gregor Samsa says:

    Oh, he is a unique creature allright.

    Sometimes I am not even sure he belongs to the human branch of the family tree.


  6. Retrogrouch says:

    not unique enough


  7. joe says:

    Yeah, I used to have two jobs, too. When I was at the convenience store, I did what the manager said, and when I worked in the warehouse, I did what the boss there said.

    This is one of those things that’s only complicated to people who are really, really motivated.


  8. joe says:

    Heh. Commander Guy and his faithful sidekick, Unique Creature.


  9. Jay Randal says:

    Democrats did not call Dicky’s bluff, because they failed to pass the measure to cut off his funding. Dems needs to stop the spin and not mimic GOPers in being dishonest about things.


  10. flamethrower says:

    like Mark Knoller was gonna kick Cheney’s ass……….pfffft.


  11. Badmoodman says:

    Machiavelli was a unique creature too.


  12. anonymous says:

    “well, mark, yes i do have a foot in both the executive and legislative branches and my doctors gave me an extra foot to tattoo that little prick if he thinks he can disrupt my plans.”


  13. Zooey says:

    Dick Cheney — fresh puppies tremble at the sight of his gaping maw….


  14. labdad95 says:

    Is that unique or eunuch?


  15. Kyle says:

    Thank God he’s unique, one is more than enough.


  16. gorn by any other name says:

    Knoller: “I have one more question…”

    Darth, Executive Dick: “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee. *** BLAM ***”


  17. Fools on the HIll says:

    Cheney lies. We have the Constitution and it says he is clearly in the executive branch.


  18. JPark says:

    He is not unique. There are a lot of Dicks out there.


  19. JPark says:

    Of course it does Fools. Cheney is just throwing feces (like his very close relatives) to see what the media will buy…and they will buy a lot.


  20. Pat says:

    What a fu(king loser!


  21. Egreggious says:

    He is not unique. There are a lot of Dicks out there.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 9:19 pm

    Some in the Executive Branch, some in the Legislative Branch.


  22. Texas Democrat says:

    Nosferatu in a red tie


  23. JPV says:

    “I think they’re in the last throes, if you will.”


  24. bilbobaggins says:

    Ok, something weird is going on here. I have tried twice to post a comment on this thread and neither has shown up. The first had a variation on the f word in it, but then I changed it and the second time I tried to post it, there were no swear words at all. But, it still doesn’t post. I’m getting paranoid after my experience at redstate.com where they banned me from posting by making it so that I can’t even get to their site. When I go to http://www.redstate.com I get a blank page.


  25. JPark says:

    Heh, Eggy, you are right about that!!! He just might have an argument!!


  26. bilbobaggins says:

    I am going to try again.

    I think that if the Democrats do nothing, they need to at least impeach Chaney. Then when he is convicted, Bush will need to get their confirmation of the next Vice President. The Democrats can have some fun with that!

    I also think that if the Democrats don’t impeach someone in the Bush Crime Family we can kiss our democracy, the constitution and the rule of law goodby.


  27. gorn by any other name says:

    “Ok, something weird is going on here. “

    That’s not weird – that’s TP Normal.

    I eliminated about 90% of it by changing my name. Go figure.


  28. bilbobaggins says:

    Ok, I give up. I tried a shortened version of the other post and it didn’t take either. TP is censoring something and I can’t figure out what it is.


  29. Egreggious says:

    bilbo, I think TP may be experiencing some technical problems. Several of us have experienced difficulties posting today.


  30. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    “a unique creature”

    The key word being “creature”.

    Sorry, JPark, but Tom Glavine’s gonna have to get his 300th against your guys. But I fully expect him to have his work cut out for him. Good luck in the series! That’s the last I’ll speak of the Mets tonight. That you for your brief indulgence. And now back to,

    “Dickless, The Man Without A Branch”


  31. Tom3 says:

    Dick Cheney, the omnipotent Fourth Branch of Government.

    The power behind the throne. The guy you don’t want to go hunting with. The guy whose enemies are always in their last throes.

    All hail the mighty Dick!!


  32. The Dogfather says:

    I’m getting paranoid after my experience at redstate.com where they banned me from posting by making it so that I can’t even get to their site. When I go to http://www.redstate.com I get a blank page.

    Comment by bilbobaggins — July 30, 2007 @ 9:22 pm

    Try deleting the cookies on your PC, hobbit man — the redstaters haven’t quite figured that part of The Internets out yet.

    This advice is provided, of course, on the understanding that you promise only to post harassing posts on redstate’s site (if you can’t promise that, then forget I mentioned the cookie thing…).


  33. Egreggious says:

    I don’t care if you talk about the Mets. I won’t read it, but I don’t care.


  34. Tom3 says:

    Cheney Says He Is A ‘Unique Creature’.

    Okay, this is an opening. He admits he is NOT human.


  35. Egreggious says:

    He admits he is NOT human.

    Comment by Tom3 — July 30, 2007 @ 9:29 pm

    Not human. A member of two branches of the government.

    Why doesn’t the Constitution address this issue? Couldn’t the Founding Fathers have foreseen that this might happen?


  36. The Dogfather says:

    Eggy/Wayne — my Nationals split with the Mets this past weekend; no doubt another sign of the coming apocalypse of course…


  37. JPark says:

    “But Cheney’s such a phony, he ought to change his name to Dildo.”

    Nope, m12.


  38. JPark says:

    Wayne, you are hitting the Crew at the right time. Spirits are a bit low, right now.


  39. citizen_pain says:

    Um… is there a real statesman out there that will inform Dick that he doesn’t make the rules?


  40. JPark says:

    Dogfather, the Nats have been playing better as of late. I still think my Crew is going to own the NL for the next 4 years…just not this year :(


  41. JPark says:

    pain, the last one that told him that was Leahy.


  42. Egreggious says:

    Nope, m12.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 9:31 pm

    That’s a keeper!


  43. Kiki says:

    Seriously…is there any Constitutional remedy when it becomes glaringly obvious that the Vice President is INSANE? If nothing else, “delusions of grandeur” and “out of touch with reality” immediately comes to mind.


  44. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Egreggious sez:

    Couldn’t the Founding Fathers have foreseen that this might happen?

    I don’t think so…Cheney’s level of batshit insane megalomania probably didn’t exist in Colonial America…


  45. gorn by any other name says:

    “I think that if the Democrats do nothing, they need to at least impeach Chaney. Then when he is convicted, Bush will need to get their confirmation of the next Vice President. The Democrats can have some fun with that!”

    You have to more than impeach. You need to impeach, convict, and remove from office. The votes aren’t there. However, it would be fun to see because at least the action would keep the cheneys* busy until the next election.

    *cheneys – Noun – any of a large population of corrupt, evil, and/ or incompetent politicians following a self-serving agenda centered on corporate greed and the willful disregard of truth, decency, humanity, accountability, democracy, and the rule of law.


  46. Mr. NeoCON says:

    Mark Knoller: Are you part of the executive branch, sir?

    Yes…………………………………………………………………….. and no.


  47. Tom3 says:

    Well, now we know Dick Cheney is some kind of evil mutant.

    The Constitution doesn’t address the issue of evil mutants, as far as I know.

    This calls for impeachment.


  48. Mr. NeoCON says:

  49. Egreggious says:

    CHENEY 2008!!!

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 9:37 pm

    “Now, where’d I put that tube sock?”


  50. The Dogfather says:

    *cheneys – Noun – any of a large population of corrupt, evil, and/ or incompetent politicians following a self-serving agenda centered on corporate greed and the willful disregard of truth, decency, humanity, accountability, democracy, and the rule of law.

    Comment by gorn by any other name — July 30, 2007 @ 9:36 pm

    Sounds like a new Wikipedia entry has been born, gorn…


  51. Tom3 says:

    Kiki, the 25th Amendment allows for the removal of the President if he goes bonkers.

    The problem is that the Vice President is the one who does it.

    Anything that gets rid of Chimpy but leaves us with Cheney is no damn good.


  52. gorn by any other name says:

    “CHENEY 2008!!!” – Comment by Mr. NeoCON

    What’s that, his inmate number?


  53. Egreggious says:

    Sounds like a new Wikipedia entry has been born, gorn…

    Comment by The Dogfather — July 30, 2007 @ 9:38 pm

    Also see: Unique Creatures


  54. gummitch says:

    Sorry, JPark, but Tom Glavine’s gonna have to get his 300th against your guys. But I fully expect him to have his work cut out for him. Good luck in the series! That’s the last I’ll speak of the Mets tonight.

    Comment by Wayne A. Schneider

    Soooo, afraid to talk baseball are you?


  55. The Dogfather says:

    #

    CHENEY 2008!!!

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 9:37 pm

    Yes — please, PLEASE put Deadeye Dick at the top of the republic ticket in 2008 — that way we can run a small marine mollusk against him (or is it “it” since Cheney’s not human?) and win in a landslide…

    MOLLUSK 2008!!!


  56. hit_escape says:

    This is an argument for idiots, meant to waste our time.


  57. pathetic says:

    He’s a creature alright. Right out of a horror movie. He must be impeached.


  58. Egreggious says:

    Cockles/Mussels 2008!


  59. JG says:

    To understand his creepyness, read “VICE” by Lou DuBose. I can’t imagine how he has gotten away with most of what he has done.
    I think it is hilarious the CIA and staffers have a nickname for him of “Edgar”.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/19/AR2006061901211_pf.html

    I want to know what gives him (Cheney) the right or the authority to set up his own shadow NSC (aside from the President’s)…


  60. gorn by any other name says:

    “CHENEY 2008!!!” – Comment by Mr. NeoCON

    I’ve got his campaign slogan:

    CHENEY 2008
    Four more years of dick.


  61. The Dogfather says:

    Soooo, afraid to talk baseball are you?

    Comment by gummitch — July 30, 2007 @ 9:40 pm

    I’ll talk baseball, gum — any chance we could put Barry Bonds and Dick Cheney in a field with shotguns together, like tomorrow, to cure two problems at once???


  62. Tom3 says:

    STEWART/COLBERT 2008


  63. Jay Randal says:

    It just takes a single vote majority in the House to impeach Cheney or Bush, but it takes 2/3 or 67 Senators to vote to remove them. Once an impeachment starts, then it can last as long as evidence is presented, so even if they are not removed by the Senate it still exposes their crimes to the press and American citizenry. Plus every Senator that would vote against impeachment could be punished in 2008 election or following ones.


  64. freeman says:

    Creature , yeah yes he’s hit upon an apt description of himself .Hey did they ever find his heart ,or is he built like a squid ?


  65. The Dogfather says:

    #

    Cockles/Mussels 2008!

    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 9:42 pm

    Alive, live-o, alive, live-o…


  66. Gregor Samsa says:

    Well, I am not sure but I believe Cheney must be unique in his capacity for arrogance and self-delusion.

    The White House’s own web site lists the Vice-President as a rank member of the President’s Cabinet; you know, as in “the VP is part of the Executive branch”.

    If VP Cheney is allowed to argue he is not part of the Executive branch, it is conceivable that any other member of the president’s cabinet could also claim the same exclusion with equally absurd, preposterous reasons.

    But I bet the Bush loyalists are ok with that too, as long as it is a Republican administration because it is always ok if you are a Republican.


  67. Egreggious says:

    Alive, live-o, alive, live-o…

    Comment by The Dogfather — July 30, 2007 @ 9:45 pm

    There’s something the Cheney campaign couldn’t claim.


  68. gorn by any other name says:

    “It just takes a single vote majority in the House to impeach Cheney or Bush, but it takes 2/3 or 67 Senators to vote to remove them. Once an impeachment starts, then it can last as long as evidence is presented, so even if they are not removed by the Senate it still exposes their crimes to the press and American citizenry. Plus every Senator that would vote against impeachment could be punished in 2008 election or following ones.” – Jay Randal

    Thank you, Jay. Any way we can print a million copies of that and send it to “Off the Table” Pelosi?

    Let’s expose the cheneys to the light of day until their skin sublimates.


  69. Egreggious says:

    …until their skin sublimates.

    Comment by gorn by any other name — July 30, 2007 @ 9:47 pm

    I don’t know what that means.


  70. gorn by any other name says:

    sublimate:

    To transform directly from the solid to a gaseous state.

    You know, like the skin of any self-respecting vampire or other undead creature.


  71. Jay Randal says:

    gorn > I have tried repeatedly to inform members of Congress to do this, if for no other reason than to expose their crimes to the light of day. There is always a chance that if enough dirt was exposed on Bush & Cheney, then GOPers in the Senate might be forced to impeach them.


  72. bilbobaggins says:

    “bilbo, I think TP may be experiencing some technical problems. Several of us have experienced difficulties posting today.
    Comment by Egreggious”

    I don’t think that is it. I went from trying to post on this thread to another and my post showed up instantly. I do see that my shortened version showed up. There was something in the wording of the longer version that TP didn’t like. I can see them censoring swear words or hate language, but I am very disappointed in TP for censoring opinions they don’t like for some reason.


  73. freeman says:

  74. The Dogfather says:

    I don’t know what that means.

    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 9:49 pm

    Sublimation is the act of proceeding from a solid directly to a gas, without first going through the liquid state. Sort of like what happens when dry ice “melts” — it goes directly from solid to gaseous carbon dioxide.

    Same thing with the unique cheney creatures — like Count Dracula, when exposed to the sun their skin goes directly from a solid phase to gas — in their case, directly to methane or sulfur dioxide (or some equally hideously smelling gas)…


  75. Egreggious says:

    To transform directly from the solid to a gaseous state.

    Comment by gorn by any other name — July 30, 2007 @ 9:50 pm

    Oh yes. I was just doing that with some navy beans.


  76. Zooey says:

    I don’t care if you talk about the Mets. I won’t read it, but I don’t care.
    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 9:29 pm

    Me neither. Talk away….

    *eyes glazing over*


  77. The Dogfather says:

    Do we shoot Cheney full of HGH to make it fair? Nah, Bonds for president if he takes down that evil f^ck.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 9:53 pm

    Cheney or Bonds — now there’s a real Hobson’s choice, JPark. Why do we have to choose — it’s SO unfair!!!


  78. Jay Randal says:

    President Nixon resigned because he was informed by Republican Senators that they would vote with Democrats to impeach him. If this was done to Bush, then he might resign too.


  79. JPark says:

    Dogfather, Bonds and a bunch of other guys ruined an era of baseball. That is horrible. Cheney eats babies. I don’t think there is a question about who we root for :)


  80. gummitch says:

    #

    STEWART/COLBERT 2008

    Comment by Tom3

    Dang. I almost wrote this very thing just this morning.


  81. freeman says:

    TP may be trying to avoid the bad press that the daily cos has been enduring at the hands of fascism’s propagandists ,the MSM and the talking heads whose rarefied air nauseates people of even modest intelligence.


  82. TomIII says:

    Cheney’s power grab must be stopped.

    The Democrats have a duty to do this.

    And so do the Repukes.


  83. Jay Randal says:

    gorn > send my post 66 to Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Harry Reid. If they received this info. daily, then perhaps they can be forced to allow impeachment process to begin. The trial could last for the rest of this year and the press would have to cover it daily.


  84. Egreggious says:

    President Nixon resigned because he was informed by Republican Senators that they would vote with Democrats to impeach him. If this was done to Bush, then he might resign too.

    Comment by Jay Randal — July 30, 2007 @ 9:55 pm

    I think how the Senators would choose to vote would have a lot to do with what was revealed during the impeachment process in the House. If the House could build a strong enough case, a conviction in the Senate might occur.

    But I’ve never seen a more partisan group than the current bunch of Repugs.


  85. Tom2+1 says:

    TP is acting strange tonight.

    Some of my posts didn’t stick.

    Rotating nicks seems to work


  86. The Dogfather says:

    I don’t think there is a question about who we root for :)

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 9:57 pm

    Right, J — GO BREW CREW!!


  87. Tom2 1 says:

    Cheney is just getting started.

    He could use the 25th Amendment to get rid of Chimpy.

    Or just take him hunting.


  88. bilbobaggins says:

    “Try deleting the cookies on your PC, hobbit man — the redstaters haven’t quite figured that part of The Internets out yet.”

    No dice, didn’t work. It did lose all my autofills, though. I have an alternative plan. I am going to go there from my work IP address and give them what for. They are nothing but a bunch of chickenshi! babies. They are so afraid of differing views they ban them entirely. That is typical of the entire right blog sites. I don’t know of one that allows people to post a differing opinion.

    That’s why I love liberal websites. Being inclusive and honoring free speech may be painful at times and rather messy, but I’ll take it over sticking my head in the sand any time.


  89. Egreggious says:

    Mmmmm…. Cookies.


  90. Jay Randal says:

    Actually the campaigning for President was not supposed to begin till January of next year, so all of that nonsense of debates should cease, and impeachment to take over till January.


  91. bilbobaggins says:

    “You have to more than impeach. You need to impeach, convict, and remove from office. The votes aren’t there. However, it would be fun to see because at least the action would keep the cheneys* busy until the next election.”

    I don’t know about that. After all the evidence is in, those 20 Republican senators who are up for re-election will be hard pressed to not convict. I think if they voted to acquit Chaney they will be kissing their re-election chances goodby.


  92. JPark says:

    LOL, Dogfather, I have never seen another Brewer fan online. That is just weird!!! :)


  93. The Dogfather says:

    Mmmmm…. Cookies.

    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:05 pm

    Homer — is that you???


  94. Egreggious says:

    It’s nice when TP provides audio clips of Cheney.

    You don’t hear from the trolls for hours at a time.


  95. ifthethunderdontgetya says:

    “CHENEY 2008!!!” – Comment by Mr. NeoCON

    Go ahead, make our day!


  96. Zooey says:

    Mmmmm…. Cookies.
    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:05 pm

    Chocolate covered graham crackers. Wish I had some. :)


  97. Tom3 says:

    The only remedy is simultaneous impeachment of Chimpy and Cheney.

    Then its President Pelosi.

    So why did she take it off the table?


  98. The Dogfather says:

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:05 pm

    Sorry to break it to you, J, but I’m only a Brew Crew fan for the next few days — being a Nats fan, I’m a fan of whoever’s playing the Mets at the time, you know (sorry Wayne…).


  99. Jay Randal says:

    Egreg > yes the current crop of GOPer Senators are the worst ever, but if during impeachment it meant their necks or Bush-Cheney’s then they would vote to remove both of them.


  100. Egreggious says:

    That’s why I can’t watch This Week.

    Every time I see Cookie Roberts, I get a craving.


  101. Wilco says:

  102. RUCerious says:

    He’s actually paid by Joe Lieberman’s (I-Israel) cronies.


  103. Tom3 says:

    Hmmmmm….seems TP likes to hand out free cookies too.

    Chimpy and Cheney must go. Impeach or go home.


  104. RUCerious says:

    Mistress Z – makin Smores tonight on the outdoor firepit!


  105. The Dogfather says:

    Every time I see Cookie Roberts, I get a craving.

    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:09 pm

    Wierd, eggy — cuz every time W sees Cokie Roberts, he gets a craving…


  106. RUCerious says:

    Uncle Ho, concur here, a gargantuan lump of evil chit.


  107. Tom3 says:

    “Every time I see Cookie Roberts, I get a craving.”

    You get a craving for nasty old pussy?

    She’s not a MILF. She’s a GMILF.

    Urk.


  108. Zooey says:

    Mistress Z – makin Smores tonight on the outdoor firepit!
    Comment by RUCerious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:10 pm

    Meany! You could have just let it go…. :P


  109. Wilco says:

    Jay, the only way I see that happening is if national support for Bush among Repubs drops below 50%. Maybe then Sens will allow impeachment.


  110. Zooey says:

    Well Egg, Dogfather and Tom3 said pretty much what I had in mind…. :D


  111. JPark says:

    “Sorry to break it to you, J, but I’m only a Brew Crew fan for the next few days”

    Doh, and I knew that. Still searching for a Brewers fan. At least we are not Red Sock fans or Yankee fans. We grow our a-holes on the inside.


  112. The Dogfather says:

    Mistress Z – makin Smores tonight on the outdoor firepit!
    Comment by RUCerious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:10 pm

    I hope you brought enough for the rest of the class, RUC…


  113. Egreggious says:

    Can’t … post ….


  114. Jay Randal says:

    Thursday evening of this week the entire Congress packs up and leaves on vacation for the rest of August. Bush has a whole month in which he could bomb Iran or cause other mischief.


  115. JPark says:

    Wilco, I like the Indians. They played here a few times as the home team :)


  116. Zooey says:

    JPark,

    Are the Brewers in Minnesota, like the Vikings? I think my bro-in-law is a big fan. You wouldn’t like him. :D


  117. JPark says:

    Eww, Cokie flip-flop? She is pretty nasty.


  118. Wilco says:

    We’re 1/2 game behind Detroit!
    Don’t call it a comeback!


  119. Zooey says:

    Can’t … post ….
    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:14 pm

    Change….your name….


  120. RUCerious says:

    hope you brought enough for the rest of the class, RUC…

    Comment by The Dogfather — July 30, 2007 @ 10:14 pm

    If you can make it to Mill Creek WA by 9:30 PST you’re in!


  121. JPark says:

    Heh, Zoo, the Brewers are in Wisconsin and we hate the Vikings!!


  122. Wilco says:

    That Kiran Chetry is the purdiest lady on cable news, former Fox flunkie or no.


  123. Wilco says:

    JPark, I saw the Madison Mallards a couple years ago up there and it was one of the best games I’ve seen! Terrific team, great energy, great crowd appreciation.


  124. Tom3 says:

    I would like to sincerely apologize to all GMILFS for my previous comment comparing them to Cokie Roberts.


  125. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    STEWART/COLBERT 2008

    Comment by Tom3 — July 30, 2007 @ 9:44 pm

    I believe Jon Stewart says he finds that both funny and sad.


  126. Suoiggerge says:

    Cheney … attacking … can’t … post …


  127. RUCerious says:

    Bush has a whole month in which he could bomb Iran or cause other mischief.
    Comment by Jay Randal — July 30, 2007 @ 10:15 pm

    Left to his own (Cheney’s) devices, all he can do in a month is suspend the Constitution, appoint a couple hundred flunkie cronies to key judicial and administrative posts, launch a false flag attack, you know, just the kind of shit that he does so well…


  128. The Dogfather says:

    If you can make it to Mill Creek WA by 9:30 PST you’re in!

    Comment by RUCerious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:17 pm

    Ummm…considering that I’m in Northern VA, that might require some Cheney-esque shape-shifting and teleportation on my part…but thanks for the offer!


  129. Zooey says:

    Heh, Zoo, the Brewers are in Wisconsin and we hate the Vikings!!
    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:17 pm

    You’d hate my bro-in-law anyway. I can barely stand him myself. :)

    I can never keep teams straight. What’s the baseball team in Minnesota?


  130. Wilco says:

    I think Bush is just looking forward to a couple nice naps during the break.


  131. Uncle Ho says:

    Hiya Zooey! Computer problems.


  132. Arn Gunnutes says:

    Of COURSE he’s part of the EXECUTIVE branch.

    That’s the way the Constitution was WRITTEN…

    Any other interpretation by Cheney is just another VIOLATION of the

    U.S. Constitution…


  133. Stewart, Martha says:

    Can’t … breathe …


  134. Zooey says:

    That Kiran Chetry is the purdiest lady on cable news, former Fox flunkie or no.
    Comment by Wilco — July 30, 2007 @ 10:17 pm

    She looks like a young Daryn Kagan.


  135. JPark says:

    Mallards games are great. The team is unaffiliated so you know they are giving their all every game to get the eye of a big league team. I went “backstage” years ago when Madison had the Muskies (an Athletics minor league team). Ozzie signed my ball. Jose C. didn’t.


  136. The Dogfather says:

    What’s the baseball team in Minnesota?

    Comment by Zooey — July 30, 2007 @ 10:20 pm

    All together now — “there IS no baseball team in Minnesota”. I mean, unless you call what the Twins play “baseball”, that is…

    OK, Twins fans, go ahead — the Nats fan here is now fair game… LOL


  137. RUCerious says:

    Zooey, it has to do with two children born on the same day…


  138. Good Thing says:

    Why … do … I … care … ?

    They’re … just … talking … baseball … anyway …


  139. Wilco says:

    He’ll work on a new pillow fort. Finally finish Horton Hears A Hoo.
    Regular presidential stuff.


  140. RUCerious says:

    JPark, the steroids made his fingers so inflexible, he could barely pick his nose. You know, finger muscle bound…


  141. JPark says:

    Zoo, the baseball team in the twin-cities is the Twins. I personally have nothing against them (they do things the right way) but they still have the DH…an abomination.


  142. Tom3 says:

    Is Chimpy on vacation yet?

    The month he spends in Crawford is probably the safest month of the year. He’s least likely to blow up the world when he’s out cutting brush.

    Chimpy taking lots of vacation is actually a good thing.


  143. RUCerious says:

    Wilco, don’t forget the Shakespears or two.


  144. Jay Randal says:

    The Congress could impeach Gonzales, before they leave on vacation, but they would rather party for the whole month of August. That is also when hurricanes start hitting the US coastlines, so no wonder New Orleans got shafted.


  145. Zooey says:

    Zooey, it has to do with two children born on the same day…
    Comment by RUCerious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:22 pm

    Heh. Now I know it’s the Twins. :D

    But my first thought was “My ex and his brother?”
    Same day, two years apart. :P


  146. JPark says:

    Oh, come on, Dogfather, just because they are a smaller market than DC and always do better than them doesn’t mean you have to be jealous :)


  147. RUCerious says:

    JPark, the DH is like the long snapper in football, nobody wants to do it, but they make us…


  148. Wilco says:

    She looks like a young Daryn Kagan.

    Comment by Zooey

    Having no idea who that is, I’ll still agree. As my father would say, “She can eat crackers in my bed.”
    Why she would want to, I have no idea.


  149. The Dogfather says:

    Ozzie signed my ball. Jose C. didn’t.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:22 pm

    And that explains, JPark, why Ozzie is in the HOF and Jose never will be. Hope you got to watch the induction ceremony yesterday — Ripken and Gwynn restored some of my faith in baseball that’s been damaged by the steroid junkies like Bonds…


  150. Arn Gunnutes says:

    Mistress Z – makin Smores tonight on the outdoor firepit!

    Comment by RUCerious

    Down the road in Toke ‘em Lake.

    Where’s the SMORES???


  151. Good Thing says:

    Is Chimpy on vacation yet?

    Comment by Tom3 — July 30, 2007 @ 10:23 pm

    I heard the Iraqi Parliament went on vacation today.

    And I thought I heard they wouldn’t be back until November! Is this possible?


  152. Zooey says:

    Comment by Good Thing — July 30, 2007 @ 10:23 pm

    We could try to change the subject. :)


  153. JPark says:

    LOL, RU, maybe that is it. Thought he was a jerk at the time.


  154. TomIII says:

    Dick Cheney…Would You Go Hunting With This Man??


  155. The Dogfather says:

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:24 pm

    Jealous? Of the Twins???

    Only jealous of their winning record this year. But considering that we’ll have a brand new ballpark in DC next year and they’ll still be trying to keep the roof inflated on the Humphrey Dome, I think we’ll stop being jealous very very soon…


  156. TomIII says:

    The Iraqi Parliament went on vacation, and they DIDN’T pass the oil giveaway bill, afaik.

    They should stay on vacation and never pass that bill.

    If it passes, US troops will be in Iraq for 30 years to guard the oil.


  157. Zooey says:

    Having no idea who that is, I’ll still agree. As my father would say, “She can eat crackers in my bed.”
    Why she would want to, I have no idea.
    Comment by Wilco — July 30, 2007 @ 10:25 pm

    Daryn Kagan used to be on CNN in the mornings, and used to date Limbaugh.

    I never understood the crackers in bed thing either. I wouldn’t allow Viggo Mortensen to eat crackers in my bed — but then, I wouldn’t give him time….


  158. Good Thing says:

    We could try to change the subject. :)

    Comment by Zooey — July 30, 2007 @ 10:25 pm

    I tried. But we’re the only ones who want to talk about cookies.


  159. JPark says:

    No, dogfather, Ozzie Canseco did but Jose didn’t. which is the classier brother? I would have been ecstatic to get the Wizard’s scribble. Even as a Brewers fan, that guy was the best.


  160. JPark says:

    RU, I understand, my team used to be in the AL. I was so happy when they went to the senior circuit. No Ortiz’s going to all-star games as 1st basemen.


  161. The Dogfather says:

    Comment by Good Thing — July 30, 2007 @ 10:28 pm

    Hey — we’ll be HAPPY to talk about cookies!

    Anybody know which baseball park has the best cookies? ;-P


  162. Good Thing says:

    Maybe there’s another thread somewhere …


  163. JPark says:

    Dogfather, I am a bit jealous of the Twins. They are one of the smallest markets and always do pretty well.


  164. JPark says:

    Dogfather, Miller Park has great cookies!!!! Full of beer!!!!


  165. JPark says:

    Then find it, Good Thing. There are only about 80 other ones.


  166. TomIII says:

    I would kick anybody out of bed that did it with Junkie Rush.

    I don’t want a disease.


  167. sevis says:

    Good Thing, not November, September. probably a good thing the new oil law is not through yet…


  168. Good Thing says:

    They’re worse than trolls. :)


  169. JPark says:

    Or is there more to say about Cheney being an animal? I am always happy to see a good Cheney shot.


  170. Wilco says:

    Zooey, I think my father maybe has cracker fetish? I don’t know. I don’t really want to know.
    I saw her picture on Wikipedia. Chetry is better looking.
    As for the Iraqis, I heard they’ll be back in Sept, not Nov. I hope I’m not wrong.
    As for cookies?
    Oatmeal raisin, and I’m hurt that Giant Eagle only makes the with pecans.
    And that’s it for me. Time to walk the dog and go to bed.

    Good night, everyone


  171. JPark says:

    TomIII, I would vomit if someone I slept with had had carnal knowledge of Rush. I would probably have syphilus, too.


  172. The Dogfather says:

    They’re worse than trolls. :)

    Comment by Good Thing — July 30, 2007 @ 10:33 pm

    Ouch — now THAT hurt…and after all the Cheney-bashing we’ve done tonight, THIS is how you thank us???


  173. Good Thing says:

    Good Thing, not November, September. probably a good thing the new oil law is not through yet…

    Comment by sevis — July 30, 2007 @ 10:32 pm

    I thought November seemed outrageous. Not that September isn’t. How many dead Soldiers does that work out to anyway?


  174. Zooey says:

    They’re worse than trolls. :)
    Comment by Good Thing — July 30, 2007 @ 10:33 pm

    Yeah, cookie monsters.


  175. JPark says:

    Good thing, what is worse? Baseball fans? People talking about what they like?


  176. RUCerious says:

    Roger, Wilco, and out!
    God I’ve been waiting for ages to do that!


  177. Good Thing says:

    Goodnight, Wilco.


  178. JPark says:

  179. Zooey says:

    Goodnight, Wilco!


  180. The Dogfather says:

    I am always happy to see a good Cheney shot.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:33 pm

    I bet that’s what Dick’s hunting partner said last year in Texas, too — sad thing for him, though, is that there’s no such thing as a good Cheney shot…


  181. RUCerious says:

    JPark, how about the idiot fan that fell on the dude and broke his neck???


  182. Good Thing says:

    I am always happy to see a good Cheney shot.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:33 pm

    Double entendre?


  183. JPark says:

    That was awful, RU. At least he didn’t die. Wasn’t that Yankee Stadium?


  184. Zooey says:

    Roger, Wilco, and out!
    God I’ve been waiting for ages to do that!
    Comment by RUCerious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:35 pm

    You have the patience of St Bubble & Squeak.


  185. Mr. NeoCON says:

    HEY!

    Where is the troll?!?!?!

    Who’s on duty tonight!?!?

    That does it, I’m calling KKKarl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  186. The Dogfather says:

    Actually, Good Thing, I think that might actually have been a triple entendre…


  187. JPark says:

    Hey man, nice shot!


  188. Zooey says:

    Double entendre?
    Comment by Good Thing — July 30, 2007 @ 10:37 pm

    Heh.

    Cheney = Money shot.


  189. JPark says:

    Good thing. I don’t like seeing double entendre and Cheney in the same sentence…ewwwww.


  190. Good Thing says:

    JPark,

    I hope you didn’t think I was serious about my troll comment.

    And boy I am I having fun getting comments through tonight!

    Egreggious


  191. JPark says:

    Zooey, that was so wrong. You just ruined the term “Money shot” for me. I can NEVER use it again.


  192. JPark says:

    Eggy, I did think you were serious and I apologize!!


  193. The Dogfather says:

    Well, Good Thing, at least you succeeded in getting the subject changed — I guess that’s what happens when you lump us in with the trolls… :o(


  194. Good Thing says:

    You just ruined the term “Money shot” for me. I can NEVER use it again.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

    Were you planning on using it again?


  195. T2the3 says:

    Cheney goes golfing with a 12 iron.

    It’s the one with the modified choke and the walnut stock.


  196. Zooey says:

    Zooey, that was so wrong. You just ruined the term “Money shot” for me. I can NEVER use it again.
    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

    Good! It’s disgusting! :D


  197. JPark says:

    Dogfather, it is eggy, he wasn’t serious. Brewers are going to the Series!!! Or…maybe not unless they play a lot better :)


  198. JPark says:

    Zooey, Money Shot is the best term in the world!!! I guarantee I can give you 7 more disgusting terms for it :)


  199. Zooey says:

    Were you planning on using it again?
    Comment by Good Thing — July 30, 2007 @ 10:42 pm

    Good question, Mr Thing. How does one use “money shot” in polite conversation?


  200. Zooey says:

    Zooey, Money Shot is the best term in the world!!! I guarantee I can give you 7 more disgusting terms for it :)
    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:44 pm

    I trust you completely when you say that, JPark. So much so that you don’t have to share them with me.

    I already have “money shot” running around my brain…. :P


  201. Mr. Thing says:

    Money … shot …

    [Here we go again.]


  202. JPark says:

    I am glad Zooey, because I had it going through my head. Pudding came to mind a lot. I don’t know why.


  203. The Dogfather says:

    And now the TP snafu has hit me — multiple posts not being posted…

    Clearly I’ve overstayed my welcome this evening…so good night to all. Join us again tomorrow as we try to make the world safe from trolls and Bushniks and Darth Cheneys and all sorts of other evil unique creatures…


  204. Mr. NeoCON says:

    Trolls,

    This just in from KKKarl:

    Mossad, Oil, Bush, Neoconservatives,
    Fascism, and warrantless wire-taps.

    M E T A – P R O G R E S S I V E ™ M E G A P H O N E ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


  205. Egreggious says:

    Try … previous … thread …


  206. JPark says:

    Dogfather, I will give you a hint. Don’t bother with old posts.


  207. Zooey says:

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 10:47 pm

    Lalalalalalalalalalaaaaa…..can’t hear you…!

    Not looking either….


  208. JPark says:

    LOL, Zoo, I know it. I get that a lot.


  209. Zooey says:

    Goodnight, Dogfather!

    Previous thread….? ok


  210. RUCerious says:

    JPark, yuupp. They can really get drunk, or have to get really drunk to watch those miserable overpaid pinstripe punks.


  211. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Having read just part of this thread, I have to say, I’m glad I missed most of it. “Cheney shot”… I really DON’T want to know.

    Other than that, as far as the actual subject matter goes, it’s nice to see Deadeye is back to this delusional nonsense. It went over so well last time he chimed in w/ it. Hopefully he will stay NICE and LOUD right up to the 2008 elections. Please run, Dick, PLEASE!!!

    You can even get a campaign photo of you fondling your… shotgun…


  212. JPark says:

    RU, you have to be really drunk, stoned or stupid to be a pinstripe fan (or live in NY, that is understandable, I guess).


  213. RUCerious says:

    Hmm, I always thought money shot was something in billiards,… what the hell am I missing!


  214. RUCerious says:

    Night dogdad, Arfff!


  215. Egreggious says:

    G’night, Dog.


  216. JPark says:

    LOL, the money shot is more ivory than ebony :)


  217. Zooey says:

    Hmm, I always thought money shot was something in billiards,… what the hell am I missing!
    Comment by RUCerious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:54 pm

    JPark knows ALL about it, RUC. :D


  218. Martha Stewart says:

    The subject came up at my catering job the other night.


  219. JPark says:

    LOL, I have studied deeply, Zoo.


  220. Joefriday says:

    Jeebez; “I would let her/him eat crackers” in my bed- Who would want to lay in cracker crumbs? UNLESS it her/him was worth that discomfort.

    Money shot-try XXX movies.


  221. Zooey says:

    The brain, JPark, the brain…. Heh.


  222. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Hmm, I always thought money shot was something in billiards,… what the hell am I missing!

    Comment by RUCerious — July 30, 2007 @ 10:54 pm

    Weeelll, yeeaah… it COULD be used that way, I suppose…


  223. Zooey says:

    The subject came up at my catering job the other night.
    Comment by Martha Stewart — July 30, 2007 @ 10:58 pm

    Over and over….?


  224. Marcus Aruelius says:

    Got here late.

    Cheney is a unicorn!


  225. JPark says:

    The brain does not have a money shot, Zoo.


  226. Mr. NeoCON says:

    How come Monica didn’t wash her dress after Clinton had his money shot?


  227. JPark says:

    Mr. Neo, man paste is way too powerful. I am guessing she had had it drycleaned.


  228. Zooey says:

    Jeebez; “I would let her/him eat crackers” in my bed- Who would want to lay in cracker crumbs? UNLESS it her/him was worth that discomfort.
    Comment by Joefriday — July 30, 2007 @ 11:03 pm

    Could always move to the floor. It might need a nice polishing….


  229. Zooey says:

    The brain does not have a money shot, Zoo.
    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:04 pm

    Well, I can tell it’s gonna be running around my brain anyway….


  230. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Money shot-try XXX movies.

    Comment by Joefriday — July 30, 2007 @ 11:03 pm

    No, really????


  231. Egreggious says:

    The brain does not have a money shot, Zoo.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:04 pm

    It does in my imagination.


  232. Zooey says:

    How come Monica didn’t wash her dress after Clinton had his money shot?
    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:04 pm

    No quarters for the laundry?


  233. JPark says:

    LOL, Zoo. I can tell you my brain will be running away from a money shot!!!


  234. Marcus Aruelius says:

    Knoller: “I have one more question…”

    Darth, Executive Dick: “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee. *** BLAM ***”

    Comment by gorn by any other name — July 30, 2007 @ 9:18 pm

    BLAM!


  235. Mr. NeoCON says:

    Leftists have money-shots fer brains.


  236. Egreggious says:

    Got here late.

    Cheney is a unicorn!

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 30, 2007 @ 11:03 pm

    The first is no excuse for the last.


  237. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Leftists have money-shots fer brains.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:08 pm

    Mr NeoCON used to work as a fluffer… and liked it!!!


  238. The Lone Voice of Reason says:

    Damn it, I get off the porn sites and come here to get my mind off of it ’cause my wife’s not home yet …


  239. Mr. NeoCON says:

    No quarters for the laundry?

    Comment by Zooey — July 30, 2007 @ 11:07 pm

    ——————-
    Why was Clinton such a cheap-skate?

    He saved trillions by not intervening in Rwanda… you know… when he let nearly 1,000,000 Tutsis die.


  240. Joefriday says:

    Could always move to the floor. It might need a nice polishing….

    Comment by Zooey — July 30, 2007 @ 11:05 pm

    Now we are back to back polishing “not that there is any thing wrong with that”- This could also be close to the “alligator” best done on Friday night at the local Holiday inn at happy hour.:)


  241. The Lone Voice of Reason says:

    It’s funny how neocons are only worried about brown people when it’s convenient.


  242. Marcus Aruelius says:

    Good question, Mr Thing. How does one use “money shot” in polite conversation?

    Comment by Zooey — July 30, 2007 @ 10:44 pm

    If it wouldn’t be too much of a bother, dear, may I please give you a money shot?


  243. Zooey says:

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:11 pm

    Not gonna do it….


  244. Egreggious says:

    … when he let nearly 1,000,000 Tutsis die.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:11 pm

    Let? Why, he actually sent Hillary over there with a machete to strike them down!


  245. Gregor Samsa says:

    Topic of the thread: Cheney claiming he’s not part of the Executive.

    Trolls’ rebuttal, and defence of Cheney: “But… but… Clinton!!”

    So predictable, so old & tired.


  246. Johnsnottoodistracted says:

    It’s all about money.
    Really just the head salesman.
    Now he has his sales chick making a 20b deal for some planes and bombs.
    You know they used to use the agencies to disrupt areas and then supply both sides with guns and bombs.
    Now they have up-graded to whole parts of the globe.
    When will we get the real picture?It’s about gold.
    The media is a distraction.No matter what’s on.
    Try not to bite on the bait.


  247. Marcus Aruelius says:

    Clinton killed the unicorns!


  248. Zooey says:

    Now we are back to back polishing “not that there is any thing wrong with that”- This could also be close to the “alligator” best done on Friday night at the local Holiday inn at happy hour.:)
    Comment by Joefriday — July 30, 2007 @ 11:12 pm

    Just having a nice memory of the cesspool party — to get my mind off JPark’s current obsession. Heh.


  249. BARTLEBEE says:

    This is ridiculous.

    The Vice President is an idiot. You can’t “argue it either way”.

    The Vice President is endowed as an office in Article II of the Constitution, which deals with the EXECUTIVE BRANCH.

    Article II

    Section 1. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

    While his role as President of the Senate is referenced in Article 1 it is NOT mentioned in the opening vesting of power. He is merely referenced, and given extremely limited power. His OFFICE however, is vested in Article II, which is the executive article.

    Therefore, there IS no question on the issue. As every first grader knows, the Office of Vice President is part of the executive branch, and you can’t “argue both sides”.

    There is no “both sides”.

    There is only the one.


  250. Zooey says:

    Let? Why, he actually sent Hillary over there with a machete to strike them down!
    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 11:14 pm

    Had to get her out of the house somehow, right?


  251. Marcus Aruelius says:

    Why is it that Leftists always accuse others of being racist?

    I think it is a projection of their own repressed racism, which they seek to externalize by labeling the Other a racist.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm


  252. JPark says:

    “Mr NeoCON used to work as a fluffer… and liked it!!”

    I am guessing he is a virgin so you are so wrong!!! A pathetic, sexless…virgin.


  253. MrNeoNut says:

    I think it is a projection of their own repressed racism, which they seek to externalize by labeling the Other a racist. Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    Projecting your projections on others. Typical…


  254. JPark says:

    “He saved trillions by not intervening in Rwanda… you know… when he let nearly 1,000,000 Tutsis die.”

    Dennis Miller’s career in a nutshell.


  255. Egreggious says:

    Why is it that Leftists always accuse others of being racist?

    I think it is a projection of their own repressed racism, which they seek to externalize by labeling the Other a racist.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm


  256. BARTLEBEE says:

    I mean, isn’t anyone ashamed right now? I mean the world is watching. They see the Vice President of the United States on national television claiming he is not part of the executive branch.

    He is a fool. A complete moron.

    And he’s making the rest of us look like morons too.


  257. MrNeoNut says:

    The Neocons have no defense, so they attack Clinton… How sad, how pathetic, NeoCon=FullBlownLoser…


  258. JPark says:

    Zooey, lol, I will pass on the cesspool party.


  259. MrNeoNut says:

    Dennis Miller’s career in a nutshell.
    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:19 pm

    Otherwise known as the march of the bow-tied, penguin suited nearly extinct losers…


  260. JPark says:

    “If it wouldn’t be too much of a bother, dear, may I please give you a money shot?”

    Excellent!! Very polite.


  261. Egreggious says:

    I mean, isn’t anyone ashamed right now? I mean the world is watching. They see the Vice President of the United States on national television claiming he is not part of the executive branch.

    Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 30, 2007 @ 11:19 pm

    Right now I’m ashamed that we’re talking about money shots. :)


  262. The Lone Voice of Reason says:

    Well well well, I got your attention, neo. Just look at the candidates, that should tell you something. Just to stay on task, what were neo’s saying about Iraqis before they suddenly became worried about their wellfare? You’ve got nothing, move on.


  263. BARTLEBEE says:

    You just CANNOT “argue it either way”.

    There is no other way!

    The Vice President is endowed with the President as an elected office in the opening of Article II. NOT Article 1.

    There is NO viable argument for the Vice President not being a member of the Executive branch.


  264. Marcus Aruelius says:

    Why is it that Leftists always accuse others of being racist?

    I think it is a projection of their own repressed racism, which they seek to externalize by labeling the Other a racist.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    Uhhh…sorry.

    A neocon using terms of psychoanalysis. Thought they were against “psychobabble”.

    We don’t accuse others of being racist. We accuse them of being racist, classist, misogynist, misanthropic, elitists, who haven’t a clue as to how their political party, philosophy, and programs are reflective of their insistance that wealthy, pseudo religious, white mals are entitled to rule over all others.

    But not racist, per se.


  265. JPark says:

    “Why is it that Leftists always accuse others of being racist?”

    Uhh, because you are? Give me a tougher one!!!


  266. MrNeoNut says:

    There is NO viable argument for the Vice President not being a member of the Executive branch. Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 30, 2007 @ 11:21 pm

    NeoCon proves that the GOP doesn’t need “viable” arguments. They’ll spew out any old stupid shit to avoid reality.


  267. BARTLEBEE says:

    Cheney is a Constitutional MORON for saying otherwise, and professors for the next 500 years will be teaching how the fool tried to remove his own office from the Executive branch simply by saying it was so.


  268. Marcus Aruelius says:

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 11:19 pm

    ——————

    What’s up with this?

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:20 pm

    I do believe the troll is flummoxed.


  269. JPark says:

    “Right now I’m ashamed that we’re talking about money shots. :)”

    I am not!!! I am proud!! I would rather have a money shot than have Bush as a president.


  270. JPark says:

    “That’s about as likely as Bush admitting he’s addicted to male prostitutes…”

    Even odds? Are you a Vegas oddsmaker???


  271. Miss Manners says:

    “If it wouldn’t be too much of a bother, dear, may I please give you a money shot?”

    Excellent!! Very polite.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:20 pm


  272. The Lone Voice of Reason says:

    The neocons aren’t racist and Dick’s not part of the executive branch. Both hilarious, and stupid.


  273. Miss Manners says:

    “If it wouldn’t be too much of a bother, dear, may I please give you a money shot?”

    Excellent!! Very polite.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:20 pm

    Comment by Miss Manners — July 30, 2007

    Damn – did it again!

    Thank you.


  274. JPark says:

    No, Mr. Neocon, he isn’t. I think you might want to take a look at your sign, Jakey.


  275. Martha Stewart says:

    Neoconservatives are not racist.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:23 pm

    Liberals are not racist.

    No one is racist.


  276. JPark says:

    Mr. Neocon, are you Jakey or Mikey?


  277. FunMe says:

    Creature?

    cheney is simply a FREAK!

    Impeach this reincarnated NAZI!


  278. JPark says:

    My money is on Mikey now. If you ask another stupid question I will be sure.


  279. Martha Stewart says:

    I would rather have a money shot than have Bush as a president.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:23 pm

    I would rather have a Cheney shot than have Bush as a president.


  280. JPark says:

    Mr. Neocon, hilarious is wrong. Stupid. Right. Kinda like you. Not funny and dumb as a box of snails.


  281. JPark says:

    Oh, then I am done with you Primus. I am getting sick of your passive aggressive crap.


  282. The Lone Voice of Reason says:

    Well, it’s true. If you find reality “hilarious” and “stupid” than you might want to look in to some professional help.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON
    I’m not the one making ridiculous claims, you are.


  283. Mr. NeoCON says:

    Passive/agressive?

    I am defending myself against accusations of racism, which, by the way, I categorically deny.


  284. Egreggious says:

    I am defending myself against accusations of racism, which, by the way, I categorically deny.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:30 pm

    That’s a weird sentence.


  285. Joefriday says:

    Why is it that Leftists always accuse others of being racist?

    I think it is a projection of their own repressed racism, which they seek to externalize by labeling the Other a racist.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    Comment by Marcus Aruelius — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 11:19 pm

    I’m down with that.


  286. Mr. NeoCON says:

    I’m not the one making ridiculous claims, you are.

    Comment by The Lone Voice of Reason — July 30, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
    ———–
    Oh, so now we at grade-school level “I know you are, but what am I” rebuttals!


  287. JPark says:

    Are you joking? Defending yourself? You pick at people and then are SHOCKED, I TELL YOU, SHOCKED” when you are a target. Don’t BS me.


  288. Zooey says:

    Zooey, lol, I will pass on the cesspool party.
    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:19 pm

    Your loss. Heh.

    I am truly sorry I smarted off with the “money shot” comment. :P


  289. Marcus Aruelius says:

    Why is it that Leftists always accuse others of being racist?

    I think it is a projection of their own repressed racism, which they seek to externalize by labeling the Other a racist.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    We don’t accuse “others” of being racist. We accuse them of being racist, classist, misogynist, and misanthropic. This accusation is based on “their” political philosophy, programs, and party, which are obviously founded on the principle that white men are entitled – by god, no less – to rule over all others.


  290. Joefriday says:

    Passive/agressive?

    I am defending myself against accusations of racism, which, by the way, I categorically deny.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:30 pm

    Do a better job.


  291. Marcus Aruelius says:

    Passive/agressive?

    I am defending myself against accusations of racism, which, by the way, I categorically deny.

    Comment by Mr. NeoCON — July 30, 2007 @ 11:30 pm

    Which “category” would that be? The “darkies”?


  292. JPark says:

    I defended you because you have a mind, Primus. And you do. But you have done nothing over the last couple of months that I could possibly defend. You have been nothing but a troll.


  293. The Lone Voice of Reason says:

    You may not be, but your party is. They are against Affirmative Action, a National Healthcare system, they are for school voucher, and just about everything else. If you can’t see a racial aspect to any of those things you need to do some reading.


  294. JPark says:

    “I am truly sorry I smarted off with the “money shot” comment. :P”

    I bet you are!!! I can take a joke to its finish. No matter how annoying or disgusting it gets!! :)


  295. Egreggious says:

    And, if the Republican voter caging accusations are true, that was also a racist activity.


  296. Loonie says:

    Ohhh, Mr. Cheney is “a unique creature”, alright.


  297. Marcus Aruelius says:

    I defended you because you have a mind, Primus. And you do. But you have done nothing over the last couple of months that I could possibly defend. You have been nothing but a troll.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

    A mind, wilfully bent towards an idea of questionable morality, should not be defended. A mind can be a terrible thing.


  298. Mr. NeoCON says:

    Affirmative Action that gives preference to minorities is a racist policy.


  299. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Hey, JPark, Egg — what’s going on here? I read the last 20 or so comments and I’m confused. Who’s arguing with whom about what? (”Who shot who in the what, now?”)


  300. Egreggious says:

    Jane,

    Go away. This isn’t fit for a lady’s ears.

    Zooey, you can stay.


  301. JPark says:

    Marcus, he could actually be very witty. He has not been so lately. He has been nothing but a righty schill.


  302. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    If you can’t see a racial aspect to any of those things you need to do some reading.

    Comment by The Lone Voice of Reason — July 30, 2007 @ 11:36 pm

    What did Dild O’Reilly say recently about “the white male Christian power structure” being threatened? Or that obviously impotent John Gibson say about, “reproduce, wite people, reproduce..”?


  303. Zooey says:

    I bet you are!!! I can take a joke to its finish. No matter how annoying or disgusting it gets!! :)
    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:36 pm

    I believe you. :D


  304. BARTLEBEE says:

    Jane. I don’t know what they’re talking about, but the VP is back to claiming that he’s not part of the Executive Branch!

    Its a MAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDD HOOOOOUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSE


  305. Zooey says:

    Jane,
    Go away. This isn’t fit for a lady’s ears.
    Zooey, you can stay.
    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 11:39 pm

    Thank you, Egg. :-)


  306. JPark says:

    Heh, thanks, Zooey!! Though I don’t think it was a compliment :)


  307. Joefriday says:

    You may not be, but your party is. They are against Affirmative Action, a National Healthcare system, they are for school voucher, and just about everything else. If you can’t see a racial aspect to any of those things you need to do some reading.

    Comment by The Lone Voice of Reason — July 30, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
    I think the school voucher thing is to destroy the teachers union-one of the largest groups that support the Dem’s. Remember, they have a triad also-Bible thumpers-rich- and the morons.


  308. Marcus Aruelius says:

    I defended you because you have a mind, Primus. And you do. But you have done nothing over the last couple of months that I could possibly defend. You have been nothing but a troll.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

    I must admit that it was me who caused most of the confusion – I think (evidence of said confusion).

    I have been very busy, and my desk is cluttered, and I’m tired. Twice, I inadvertantly hit the post button – instead of the blockquote button – before typing my message.

    Interesting results.


  309. JPark says:

    Hmm, I answered you Jane but I was deleted. I think talking about Mr. Pres might be out of bounds now.


  310. Zooey says:

    Heh, thanks, Zooey!! Though I don’t think it was a compliment :)
    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:42 pm

    It was a compliment! I can do it, too. My forte is dead bodies, not money shots. And I’m too sober to give it a good go. :D


  311. JPark says:

    Marcus, I am not confused. That guy is really a funny guy with a good mind. It is unfortunate he uses it for evil.


  312. Egreggious says:

    Hmm, I answered you Jane but I was deleted. I think talking about Mr. Pres might be out of bounds now.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:44 pm

    You do have to be careful how you refer to him now.


  313. Lee J. Cobb says:

    hi all. Cheney floating about in his 4th branch again? They should have made him move into the FEMA trailer, like they said.


  314. JPark says:

    LOL, my limit is dead babies and pitchfork jokes!! Those are bad.


  315. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Jane,

    Go away. This isn’t fit for a lady’s ears.

    Zooey, you can stay.

    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 11:39 pm

    Have I ever given you evidence that I’m a “lady”? ;-)


  316. JPark says:

    I guess so Eggy. I haven’t been paying attention. I am guessing I have been leaving a trail of broken posts behind.


  317. Egreggious says:

    Have I ever given you evidence that I’m a “lady”? ;-)

    Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 30, 2007 @ 11:46 pm

    I always give non-trolls the benefit of a doubt.


  318. JPark says:

    LOL, you are from NY, of course not!!! :)


  319. BARTLEBEE says:

    I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.


  320. Egreggious says:

    I guess so Eggy. I haven’t been paying attention. I am guessing I have been leaving a trail of broken posts behind.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:47 pm

    Primus is no longer allowed to post under his most well-known alias, it would seem.


  321. the Lone Voice of Reason says:

    Joefriday, remember when the voucher was on the ballot, Bush used a little black boy as a prop saying he should get a chance to the same schools that rich white kids go to. The problem was, was they would have us all pay for education in these schools but since they are private they could discriminate against the poor anyway.


  322. Egreggious says:

    I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

    Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 30, 2007 @ 11:48 pm

    Hang in there, Bart. We’re all with you on this.


  323. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 30, 2007 @ 11:42 pm

    And the inmates are revolting?

    Hmm, I answered you Jane but I was deleted. I think talking about Mr. Pres might be out of bounds now.

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:44 pm

    I still see my first post – it’s at #302, at least on my screen!


  324. JPark says:

    And apparantly not under Mr. knee oh con, either.


  325. JPark says:

    Yup, Jane, it is still 302 to me as well. My subsequent post about Mr. knee was deleted.


  326. BARTLEBEE says:

    Make no doubt about it. If the Vice President has got brass enough to go on national television and remove his office from the executive branch, then he’s probably not far from trying to implement martial law.


  327. Jane E. Schneider says:

    I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

    Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 30, 2007 @ 11:48 pm

    Maybe you should get some of JIMBO DUDE’s “chill pills”?


  328. Zooey says:

    LOL, my limit is dead babies and pitchfork jokes!! Those are bad.
    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:46 pm

    No, I don’t do dead baby jokes. That’s a bit much. Never heard of a pitchfork joke, but I can just imagine…


  329. Lee J. Cobb says:

    I just read a CFR study where one of their “fellows” suggest the way to fix the deteriating unemployement and underemployment fears caused by globalization would be to transfer unemployment insurance to private companies.

    So they will be able to profit from unempoyment as well. Lovely.


  330. Zooey says:

    Have I ever given you evidence that I’m a “lady”? ;-)
    Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 30, 2007 @ 11:46 pm

    Well, I wondered…..


  331. Egreggious says:

    …he’s probably not far from trying to implement martial law.

    Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 30, 2007 @ 11:51 pm

    We will take to the streets when that happens. It won’t be pretty, and bin Laden will have won.


  332. Jane E. Schneider says:

    LOL, you are from NY, of course not!!! :)

    Comment by JPark — July 30, 2007 @ 11:48 pm

    Well, there you go! I rest my case.


  333. JPark says:

    No doubt Bartlebee. He is not exactly removing himself from the exec branch, though. He is saying he is not bound by sanctions from congress because he is not part of the exec branch. If the executive branch tried to censure him (fat chance) he would say he is not part of the legislative branch. He is trying to have it both way. I say cite him with contempt of Congress and let it play out. Democracy is either dead or it isn’t.


  334. Egreggious says:

    No, I don’t do dead baby jokes. That’s a bit much. Never heard of a pitchfork joke, but I can just imagine…

    Comment by Zooey — July 30, 2007 @ 11:53 pm

    I think it’s all one joke, if you get what I mean.


  335. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Well, I wondered…..

    Comment by Zooey — July 30, 2007 @ 11:54 pm

    But for how long? ;-D


  336. JPark says:

    It is bad Zoo, it is about pitchforks, a pickup truck and dead babies. It made me sick as a 12 year old boy so it had to be bad.


  337. the Lone Voice of Reason says:

    Dick basicly says whatever he needs to say at the time and our so-called liberal media eats it and moves on. In this administration, rules just don’t apply.


  338. Joefriday says:

    BREAKING NEWS-lots of people died in Iraq today.nothing to see here, just keep moving. Damn traffic was bad today, my Star bucks mocha creme de creme latte cinnamon double peppermint was cold when i got to work and the air conditioner was not working very well. Damn, I can’t fiqure out which bottled water to buy that will help me live to 125.


  339. Zooey says:

    And the inmates are revolting?
    Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 30, 2007 @ 11:50 pm

    I know this one!!

    They’ve always been revolting….they’re rebelling!


  340. Egreggious says:

  341. Gregor Samsa says:

    he’s probably not far from trying to implement martial law.
    Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 30, 2007 @ 11:51 pm

    If/when that happens, the Bush cult followers will be accusing anyone who dares voice their opposition of “hating America” and “emboldening the enemy”.

    The Mr. Ps/Primuses/Mr. Neocons of the world will be right there, enabling the move and calling dissenters “surrender monkeys”.

    Some things never change…


  342. BARTLEBEE says:

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I think its time people just started vocalinzing this everywhere, especially on the news.

    We’re not afraid of the terrorists.

    We’re afraid of Bush and Cheney!

    Thats who we really fear.


  343. Zooey says:

    I think it’s all one joke, if you get what I mean.
    Comment by Egreggious — July 30, 2007 @ 11:55 pm

    Oh, I get it. Yuck.


  344. Jane E. Schneider says:

    I agree with Egg…”groan.” Of course, you had to do it, Zooey, the line was there!


  345. Zooey says:

    But for how long? ;-D
    Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 30, 2007 @ 11:56 pm

    Actually, for quite a while, now that you ask. :-D


  346. Egreggious says:

    The Mr. Ps/Primuses/Mr. Neocons of the world will be right there, enabling the move and calling dissenters “surrender monkeys”.

    Comment by Gregor Samsa — July 31, 2007 @ 12:00 am

    When you say “right there”, you mean still in their basements at their keyboards, I take it?


  347. JPark says:

    Have a good night all. Work comes way too soon.


  348. Zooey says:

    I agree with Egg…”groan.” Of course, you had to do it, Zooey, the line was there!
    Comment by Jane E. Schneider — July 31, 2007 @ 12:04 am

    Sorry, Egg. I couldn’t let it just sit there. :)


  349. Egreggious says:

    Goodnight, JPark!


  350. Zooey says:

    Goodnight, JPark!


  351. StormonMormon says:

    A unique creature indeed.


  352. Lee J. Cobb says:

    When you say “right there”, you mean still in their basements at their keyboards, I take it?

    Comment by Egreggious

    Well, they’ll be in mommy’s basement drinking Kool-Aid, while we will all be in a pyramid at Gitmo with some country girl pointing at us and laughing.


  353. Zooey says:

    Ohhh Egg, that was spooky.


  354. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    So how does one go about impeaching “The Man Without a Branch”? Do you just charge him with “General Weaseliness”? Being a “creature” rather than a “person”, as required by the constitution? Failing to fulfill his constitutional oath to support and defend the constitution? Wait a minute. That one might just stick. I say, “Go for it!”

    “I’ll see you impeached, my Cheney,
    And you little dog, Gonzo, too!”

    “Don’t worry, Dickie, I’ll save you.”
    “And Gonzo, too?”
    “And Gonzo, too!”


  355. Egreggious says:

    …while we will all be in a pyramid at Gitmo with some country girl pointing at us and laughing.

    Comment by Lee J. Cobb — July 31, 2007 @ 12:08 am

    Good thing I’ve been practicing.


  356. Gregor Samsa says:

    Comment by Egreggious — July 31, 2007 @ 12:05 am

    It was supposed to read “right here”, meaning “here at ThinkProgress”.

    But that in no way negates what you said… lol


  357. Zooey says:

    Well, they’ll be in mommy’s basement drinking Kool-Aid, while we will all be in a pyramid at Gitmo with some country girl pointing at us and laughing.
    Comment by Lee J. Cobb — July 31, 2007 @ 12:08 am

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh! Don’t say that!

    Hi, Lee. :)


  358. Egreggious says:

    Ohhh Egg, that was spooky.

    Comment by Zooey — July 31, 2007 @ 12:09 am

    Jinx!


  359. Gregor Samsa says:

    Good thing I’ve been practicing.
    Comment by Egreggious — July 31, 2007 @ 12:10 am

    Practicing what?

    The laughing & pointing, or standing in a pyramid? ;-)


  360. Joefriday says:

    Ohhh Egg, that was spooky.

    Comment by Zooey — July 31, 2007 @ 12:09 am

    Frankly Ms Scarlett-I don’t give a damn. ;)


  361. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Mr NeoCON used to work as a fluffer… and liked it!!!

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — July 30, 2007 @ 11:09 pm

    Oaky, this comment was posted over an hour ago and never refuted. That means it must be true, right??


  362. Lee J. Cobb says:

    I hope I get nice storm-troopers.


  363. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Goodnight, JPark! (I started to post that but got blocked because Wayne was posting at the same time – would have been weird if 3 people posted the same thing at the same time!)


  364. Zooey says:

    Frankly Ms Scarlett-I don’t give a damn. ;)
    Comment by Joefriday — July 31, 2007 @ 12:12 am

    You’re just jealous you missed out on the spookiness. :D


  365. Egg says:

    No … can … post …


  366. Lee J. Cobb says:

    Yes, but he was a fluffer on the TeleTubies.


  367. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    When you say “right there”, you mean still in their basements at their keyboards, I take it?

    Comment by Egreggious — July 31, 2007 @ 12:05 am

    still in their MOTHERS’ basements, wearing their mothers’ best dress…

    But they’ll insist it’s actually a Freedom Tunic…


  368. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Yes, but he was a fluffer on the TeleTubies.

    Comment by Lee J. Cobb — July 31, 2007 @ 12:15 am

    Must… claw… own eyes out.


  369. Joefriday says:

    Frankly Ms Scarlett-I don’t give a damn. ;)
    Comment by Joefriday — July 31, 2007 @ 12:12 am

    You’re just jealous you missed out on the spookiness. :D

    Comment by Zooey — July 31, 2007 @ 12:14 am

    It’s quiting time-No , I get to say that. O.K.- It’s quiting time. Damn, now that is spooky.


  370. Lee J. Cobb says:

    Must… claw… own eyes out.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    That image will stick with you all week.


  371. Eggo says:

    I’m … dying …


  372. Lee J. Cobb says:

    I’m … dying …

    Comment by Eggo

    always about the drama. like a Captain Kirk death scene. “Worse scene ever.” comic book guy


  373. Zooey says:

    I’m … dying …
    Comment by Eggo — July 31, 2007 @ 12:21 am

    Drama queen….

    Re-boot?
    Unplug your connection for a minute?

    That’s all I know. :}


  374. Lee J. Cobb says:

    You jinxed him and he can’t talk.


  375. Largo says:

    Unique creature= anti-Christ


  376. Egreggious says:

    All right. I sprinkled myself with holy water. Let’s see what happens.


  377. Zooey says:

    You jinxed him and he can’t talk.
    Comment by Lee J. Cobb — July 31, 2007 @ 12:33 am

    I have that effect more than one might think. :-)


  378. Lee J. Cobb says:

    All right. I sprinkled myself with holy water. Let’s see what happens.

    Comment by Egreggious

    If you sprinkled yourself with holy water, you know what would happen. You sprinkled all right, but there was nothing holy about it.


  379. Lee J. Cobb says:

    If you get a chance, check out my site. Theres a new post about my trip to Binder and Binder. it’s very exciting. like a new video game and a puppy and a trip to Lake Happy times all rolled into one.


  380. Lee J. Cobb says:

    for post 382. garuantee not garuanteed.


  381. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    You sprinkled all right, but there was nothing holy about it.

    Comment by Lee J. Cobb — July 31, 2007 @ 12:40 am

    Damn! That’s the sort of comment I usually make…


  382. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate says:

    I have suffered the Republic Effect. it’s kinda fun


  383. The Oracle says:

    There’s gotta be a “special” jail cell just waiting somewhere for such a “special” person as Dick Cheney, a person who has done more damage to our democracy than Richard Nixon ever dreamt of doing.


  384. Egreggious, Esq. says:

    I shall visit your site, Lee.


  385. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    His special jailcell will be in UAE in a boardroom at Haliburton where they laugh and play “throw the bottle of cheap beer at the poor person” all day.


  386. Zooey says:

    If you get a chance, check out my site. Theres a new post about my trip to Binder and Binder. it’s very exciting. like a new video game and a puppy and a trip to Lake Happy times all rolled into one.
    Comment by Lee J. Cobb — July 31, 2007 @ 12:42 am

    I shall check your site, Lee — on the morrow. My son insists on using his time online. Kids….

    How’d ya get to be a Potentate?


  387. Egreggious, Esq. says:

    How’d ya get to be a Potentate?

    Comment by Zooey — July 31, 2007 @ 12:59 am

    By eating lots of potentoes?


  388. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    Same way Bush got to be President…dumb luck and alot of fluffing.


  389. pete says:

    O.K. Who shot the trolls. Someone deserves a raise.


  390. Egreggious, Esq. says:

    Good night, pete.


  391. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    I have suffered the Republic Effect. it’s kinda fun

    Comment by Lee J. Cobb, Potentate — July 31, 2007 @ 12:45 am

    Just out of curiosity, what’s the Republic Effect?


  392. Karim says:

  393. dummy says:

    how long will it take for America to realise what is eating it up from the inside and to do somethin about it??


  394. Walt says:

    When JK Rowling needed a role model for Voldemort, she only needed to turn to Dick Cheney, Master of the Dark Arts. His followers all speak with forked tongues and worship war. This guy would eat Harry Potter for breakfast, unfortunately, using the “Executus Priviledgus” spell which renders the speaker invulnerable. However, the wizard Cheney has one Achilles Heel: he keeps his heart in a box hidden away in his lair, and if some brave member of Congress were to find it and stomp it, we’d all be safer.


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  396. l.j. says:

    read the comments about that “redstate.com” site, so i went there, and the article i clicked on wouldn’t come up…refreshed twice,…then my internet connection went down. hahahahaha. we are SO FRICKIN FREE HERE, HUH!!! yea, lets just shove this “freed’um & lib’rty” down the entire globes throat!!!
    we are becomming a county of prisioners and prision guards. i guess that “the only bush i trust is my own” bumper sticker pretty much says what side of the lock i’ll be on.
    but at least i’ll be in good company.


  397. Guido, Lover, OBGYN says:

    lol impeach this delusional ass


  398. Bruno says:

    “There must be no majority decisions, but only responsible persons, and the word ‘council’ must be restored to its original meaning. Surely every man will have advisers by his side, but the decision will be made by one man.”
    - Adolf Hitler


  399. alwaysthinking says:

    Why didn’t they just subpoena him while Bush was having surgery last weekend (and he was technically president, perish the thought, for a few hours)?


  400. Kay says:

    Well, the job of Vice President is an interesting one, because you have a foot in both the executive and the legislative branch

    and one foot in the you know what…


  401. Kay says:

    Is Cheney in his last thr(ombosis)es, yet?


  402. Brian says:

    Cheney is technically correct, and two hundred years of precedent actually back him up. He’s a member of both branches. And most former Veeps, before WWII, had the view that they were actually part of the legislative branch, because the only real duty they had, as written in the Constitution, is to preside over the Senate.

    The office, contrary to what most people think, was not created to take over the Presidency should something happen to the President, it was created simply for election purposes (read Madison’s notes).


  403. toasterhead says:

    Didn’t John Oliver already establish that Dick Cheney was The Highlander?


  404. Jack says:

    Unique Creature – like from the Black Lagoon?


  405. Betty says:

    So we have an unelected person, who is second in command, and is answerable to no one.
    If he pulls this off then the office of the vice president must be filled with a separate election.


  406. drew_ill says:

    He’s right, because the Devil is unique…


  407. War4Sale says:

    Unique creature = Vampire who gorges himself on the blood of American soldiers and innocent Iraqi civilians.


  408. Shane Harris says:

    Cheney may be the smartest decision Bush ever made. It makes him bulletproof.


  409. Probus says:

    Cheney is part of the executive branch. He is not part of the legislative branch. For him to try to claim that he is a part of both is ridiculous and false. He is not above the law and he must follow the executive order.


  410. Mark says:

    I cannot believe the comments here. Are you people all really this stupid? No one – and I admit I had to stop reading because it was so sophomoric – actually debated what Cheney said. It was all – he’s the devil – he’s the worst – he hates cats – he eats children, etc.

    I would love to you see you leftist nutballs actually debate the question at hand. Am I really asking too much?

    Clearly the Vice President is a member of the Senate. Like Cheney said, he is actually paid by the Senate. But the Vice President is not a Senator and can only cast tie-breaking votes. However when the Senate is split it is the President of the Senate (the Veep) who decides what becomes law. Clearly no one would argue that this is the role of the Executive Branch, would you?

    And different Vice Presidents have differed on the role of the Vice President in the Senate. Adams, who was Washington’s VP, believed it was his job to control the Senate and he would spend lots of time preaching to the 26 Senators about what they should be doing. At times he even tried to stop debate. Most historians believe he overplayed his role which deminished the future role of Vice Presidents to come.

    Come on you lockstep liberal wackos – try thinking for a change instead of paroting your irrational anger.


  411. Probus says:

    Cheney is delusional if he thinks he belongs to the legislative branch. He doesn’t belong to the Senate or the legislative branch. He is a member of the executive branch only. He receives funding for his office under the executive branch. On several occasions he has himself claimed executive privilege. He can’t have it both ways. He can’t claim to be part of both branches. His role in the Senate is limited and ceremonial. He is not above the law he must comply with the executive order.


  412. Gregor Samsa says:

    Comment by Mark — July 31, 2007 @ 7:24 pm

    The vice-Presidency is part of the Executive branch. That the VP can cast a vote in the Senate does not change that fact. End of story.

    You could have read that opinion expressed in several of the posts in the thread but you, like so many Bush supporters, have a reading comprehension problem.


  413. Probus says:

    Cheney is part of only one branch of government: the executive branch. He is not part of the legislative branch. His office is funded under the executive branch. He is not above the law. He must comply with the executive order. He only has a ceremonial role as president of the Senate. He is not part of that body. He is part of the executive branch.


  414. jschultz410 says:

    Here is a strong constitutional argument that the VP is part of the executive branch and not the legislative branch.

    Article 1 (Legislative Branch) – Section 5 (Membership) states:

    “Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.”

    Article 2 (Executive Branch) – Section 4 (Disqualification) states:

    “The President, Vice-President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

    Each of these sections describes the mechanisms by which members of the respective Branches can be removed from their Offices. I don’t believe the Senate can constitutionally vote to expel the VP as President of the Senate using the mechanism described in Article 1 – Section 5. To remove the VP as President of the Senate (by removing him from the office of VP) he would have to be removed
    using Article 2 – Section 4. The fact that the VP can only be removed through the disqualification section listed under Article 2, the Executive Branch, clearly shows that the VP is part of the executive branch even though he has legislative duties.

    The fact that the VP has legislative duties described under Article 1 but is part of the executive branch is not unusual. Everyone recognizes that the executive has pretty much sole control over foreign policy. However, international treaties must be approved by the Senate as described under Article 2. This does not suddenly make senators also part of the executive branch.

    Couple this reasoning with the fact that the primary purpose of the VP is to act as a President in waiting should the President be incapcitated, the VP must meet all the same eligibility requirements as the President and that the VP is chosen through the same electoral process as the President and it is very clear that the VP is part of the executive branch even though he has some legislative duties.


  415. Probus says:

    Cheney receives the funding for his office under the executive branch only. He is not part of the legislative branch. It is not possible for anyone to be part of 2 branches of government. He only claimed to be part of the legislative branch to avoid compliance with Bush’s executive order. He is not above the law and must comply.



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