Comments on: O’Hanlon Contradicts His Own Research To Portray Surge As Successful http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:34:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Yarn http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-2/#comment-3994289 Yarn Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:11:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3994289 http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2007/07/iraq-070701-voa01.htm This is the basis of the statistic. http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2007/07/iraq-070701-voa01.htm

This is the basis of the statistic.

]]> By: Al http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-2/#comment-3980561 Al Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:58:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3980561 Paul: "Progress = no capitulating to Islamic terrorism and attacks on liberty. I detest war, but I prefer it to spineless appeasement and sharia law." If you were so AFRAID of Muslims, then tell us again why you wanted war in Iraq. Saddam was indeed evil, but Iraq was a secular country, unlike Saudi Arabia. In Iraq, there was freedom of religion. You could be Muslim, Christian, Jew, whatever. Paul: “Progress = no capitulating to Islamic terrorism and attacks on liberty. I detest war, but I prefer it to spineless appeasement and sharia law.”

If you were so AFRAID of Muslims, then tell us again why you wanted war in Iraq. Saddam was indeed evil, but Iraq was a secular country, unlike Saudi Arabia. In Iraq, there was freedom of religion. You could be Muslim, Christian, Jew, whatever.

]]> By: gnuorder http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-2/#comment-3977731 gnuorder Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:54:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3977731 "Why did you post the figures for November to June as though this was relevant ? Still persisting with that BS that the surge started when the President announced it are we ? Yeah, that’ll make you look credible." Comment by Kilo — July 30, 2007 @ 8:05 pm Are you still insisting that the surge troops sat on their ass waiting for the last man show up before beginning operations? The surge started when the surge troops first arrived. Are we going to say in Sept that the surge hadn't started yet because a few soldiers missed their flight? Let's be honest and show the numbers for every month since the war started and we will see there is a dip every July/August. The scam is that the whitehouse hopes no one notices the numbers are back up in Sept. so they can claim success in the surge where there is none. “Why did you post the figures for November to June as though this was relevant ?
Still persisting with that BS that the surge started when the President announced it are we ?
Yeah, that’ll make you look credible.”

Comment by Kilo — July 30, 2007 @ 8:05 pm

Are you still insisting that the surge troops sat on their ass waiting for the last man show up before beginning operations? The surge started when the surge troops first arrived. Are we going to say in Sept that the surge hadn’t started yet because a few soldiers missed their flight? Let’s be honest and show the numbers for every month since the war started and we will see there is a dip every July/August. The scam is that the whitehouse hopes no one notices the numbers are back up in Sept. so they can claim success in the surge where there is none.

]]> By: Diane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-2/#comment-3977676 Diane Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:41:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3977676 Just thought I listen to Rush limbaugh. His take on this is interesting. he is pushing the idea that the Democrats are in a hysterical mode because "one of there own' has made a positive statement about the war.. And now the Dems don't know what to do now that its proven that the surge was working. Also pushing the "fact" that the Dems don't want us to win in Iraq and what are we going to do when we win? I don't usually Hate people, but I'm pretty darn close with this guy.. Just thought I listen to Rush limbaugh.
His take on this is interesting. he is pushing the idea that the Democrats are in a hysterical mode because “one of there own’ has made a positive statement about the war..
And now the Dems don’t know what to do now that its proven that the surge was working.
Also pushing the “fact” that the Dems don’t want us to win in Iraq and what are we going to do when we win?

I don’t usually Hate people, but I’m pretty darn close with this guy..

]]> By: gnuorder http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-2/#comment-3977601 gnuorder Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:26:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3977601 "No booze or seeing eye dogs in minneapolis cabs, death threats against the Pope, violence towards the Danish government over cartoons, shutting down a German play over objections from Muslims." Comment by paul — July 30, 2007 @ 5:01 pm Sounds like the same sort of things we've been fighting the fundie Christians over the past 20-30 years. If the Christofascists can't make us cower, what chance do you think the Islamofascists have? I suggest you head the middle of the Arizona desert and defend us from the Islamic Mexicans. Dont forget to forget your water. “No booze or seeing eye dogs in minneapolis cabs, death threats against the Pope, violence towards the Danish government over cartoons, shutting down a German play over objections from Muslims.”

Comment by paul — July 30, 2007 @ 5:01 pm

Sounds like the same sort of things we’ve been fighting the fundie Christians over the past 20-30 years. If the Christofascists can’t make us cower, what chance do you think the Islamofascists have? I suggest you head the middle of the Arizona desert and defend us from the Islamic Mexicans. Dont forget to forget your water.

]]> By: paul http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-2/#comment-3977038 paul Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:32:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3977038 Go hide under your bed Paulie. A few thousand crazed extremists don’t scare me... I'm not under my bed. I'm standing on a beach looking at you with you head in the sand. Go hide under your bed Paulie.
A few thousand crazed extremists don’t scare me…

I’m not under my bed. I’m standing on a beach looking at you with you head in the sand.

]]> By: Gary http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3976944 Gary Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:28:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3976944 If those are "critics" of the White House Iraq policy what does the media call friends? If those are “critics” of the White House Iraq policy what does the media call friends?

]]> By: Kilo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3976006 Kilo Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:05:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3976006 <blockquote>O’Hanlon’s most recent Iraq Index update conflicts with today’s op-ed in several other key areas: CIVILIAN DEATH RATES O’Hanlon: “Civilian fatality rates are down roughly a third since the surge began.” Brookings Iraq Index, 7/26/2007:</blockquote> Why did you post the figures for November to June as though this was relevant ? Still persisting with that BS that the surge started when the President announced it are we ? Yeah, that'll make you look credible.

O’Hanlon’s most recent Iraq Index update conflicts with today’s op-ed in several other key areas:

CIVILIAN DEATH RATES
O’Hanlon: “Civilian fatality rates are down roughly a third since the surge began.”
Brookings Iraq Index, 7/26/2007:

Why did you post the figures for November to June as though this was relevant ?
Still persisting with that BS that the surge started when the President announced it are we ?
Yeah, that’ll make you look credible.

]]> By: Humbert Snopes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975903 Humbert Snopes Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:31:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975903 " Now he’s properly terrified and won’t mind when they take his remaining civil liberties away." Put down the cough medicine Margaret, and tell us ONE civil liberty you've been deprived of because of the war on terror. I know that syrupy stuff makes you feel good, but you shouldn't be guzzling that stuff the way you do. ” Now he’s properly terrified and won’t mind when they take his remaining civil liberties away.”

Put down the cough medicine Margaret, and tell us ONE civil liberty you’ve been deprived of because of the war on terror. I know that syrupy stuff makes you feel good, but you shouldn’t be guzzling that stuff the way you do.

]]> By: liberals destroyed america http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975888 liberals destroyed america Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:28:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975888 the dnc must be going wild! their effort to destroy petraeus and undermine the war effort is getting off course with long time ally the ny times publishing a piece like this. i'm sure the dnc's friends at the times will fix this error and run another 6-7 weeks of abu grahb stories. go jihadis go, the liberals are with you!!!! the dnc must be going wild! their effort to destroy petraeus and undermine the war effort is getting off course with long time ally the ny times publishing a piece like this. i’m sure the dnc’s friends at the times will fix this error and run another 6-7 weeks of abu grahb stories. go jihadis go, the liberals are with you!!!!

]]> By: margaret http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975512 margaret Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:41:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975512 Looks like this paul is afraid of the "Islamics"! He must have watched that propaganda on FAUX over the weekend on radical Islam. Now he's properly terrified and won't mind when they take his remaining civil liberties away. Looks like this paul is afraid of the “Islamics”! He must have watched that propaganda on FAUX over the weekend on radical Islam. Now he’s properly terrified and won’t mind when they take his remaining civil liberties away.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975509 WaltTheMan Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:40:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975509 I sent a note to the Public Editor. I sent a note to the Public Editor.

]]> By: Publicus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975471 Publicus Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:29:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975471 The lies come like clockwork. But nobody except the remaining true believers in the blood-lusting neocon bs listens anymore. The lies come like clockwork. But nobody except the remaining true believers in the blood-lusting neocon bs listens anymore.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975401 WaltTheMan Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:08:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975401 Has anyone hit the NYTimes with the data from this (Brookings) report? They might be more selective of items that appear in their OpEds if they knew. Has anyone hit the NYTimes with the data from this (Brookings) report? They might be more selective of items that appear in their OpEds if they knew.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975379 RUCerious Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:03:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975379 Go hide under your bed Paulie. A few thousand crazed extremists don't scare me, well, except for the jesus camp deal... Go hide under your bed Paulie.
A few thousand crazed extremists don’t scare me, well, except for the jesus camp deal…

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975375 RUCerious Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:01:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975375 Looks like O'Hangin was against being for the surge after or before he wasn't for or against it, maybe. Looks like O’Hangin was against being for the surge after or before he wasn’t for or against it, maybe.

]]> By: paul http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975373 paul Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:01:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975373 Islamic fundamentalist are testing westerners every day. No booze or seeing eye dogs in minneapolis cabs, death threats against the Pope, violence towards the Danish government over cartoons, shutting down a German play over objections from Muslims. Muslim accomadations in schools that won't accomadate other religions. Countless other examples. Progressives submissively roll over, because they are simply unwilling to fight for their own liberty. Is that what the forefathers had in mind? Islamic fundamentalist are testing westerners every day. No booze or seeing eye dogs in minneapolis cabs, death threats against the Pope, violence towards the Danish government over cartoons, shutting down a German play over objections from Muslims. Muslim accomadations in schools that won’t accomadate other religions. Countless other examples. Progressives submissively roll over, because they are simply unwilling to fight for their own liberty. Is that what the forefathers had in mind?

]]> By: Krazny http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975372 Krazny Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:00:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975372 Paul you are arguing a slippery slope point. I don't think you see the problems with the theory you put forth, but most people who are not fear mongers do see the problem. Western civilization is not going to capitulate to fundamentalist islamics. We, here in the US, and in Europe, have spent to much time gaining the very freedoms you say are in danger. Yes we believe in religious tolerance but that goes both ways. We are in less danger now, then during the cold war, and even then I think the danger was overblown, to justify the big military, and to keep us afraid. Paul you are arguing a slippery slope point. I don’t think you see the problems with the theory you put forth, but most people who are not fear mongers do see the problem. Western civilization is not going to capitulate to fundamentalist islamics. We, here in the US, and in Europe, have spent to much time gaining the very freedoms you say are in danger. Yes we believe in religious tolerance but that goes both ways.

We are in less danger now, then during the cold war, and even then I think the danger was overblown, to justify the big military, and to keep us afraid.

]]> By: Egreggious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975356 Egreggious Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:54:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975356 <i>My gut tells me the war is going swimmingly and that’s all that matters. Comment by bush jr. — July 30, 2007 @ 4:49 pm</i> Shirtoff? Is that you? My gut tells me the war is going swimmingly and that’s all that matters.

Comment by bush jr. — July 30, 2007 @ 4:49 pm

Shirtoff? Is that you?

]]> By: bush jr. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/comment-page-1/#comment-3975350 bush jr. Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:49:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/30/ohanlons-research/#comment-3975350 Those are just a bunch of charts and graphs and stuff. My gut tells me the war is going swimmingly and that's all that matters. Those are just a bunch of charts and graphs and stuff. My gut tells me the war is going swimmingly and that’s all that matters.

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