REPORT: Putting U.S. Troop Casualty Statistics In Perspective
REPORT: Putting U.S. Troop Casualty Statistics In Perspective
At least 73 U.S. troops are reported to have died in Iraq this past month. The numbers are a decline from the all-time highs of 108, 131, and 117 from the previous three months.
Media reports herald the statistics as encouraging and as demonstrating “steady progress” in Iraq. Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno said that the lower death toll was a “positive sign.”
According to icasualties.org, at least 3,653 U.S. troops have died in the 53 months that the war has been going on — a per monthly rate of nearly 69 U.S. troop casualties. Thus, the current month’s total still exceeds the average monthly casualty rate of the entire war.
Moreover, 73 is also greater than the average monthly casualty rate of each of the first four years of the war. A look at the monthly U.S. casualty rates over each of these years:
YEAR CASUALITY
RATE2003 48.6 per month 2004 70.8 per month 2005 70.5 per month 2006 68.5 per month 2007 92.9 per month
Statistics compiled from icasualties.org
The AP notes that “the daily average for U.S. troop deaths in July was at least 2.35 — higher than the daily average of 2.25 last year, and remarkably consistent with average daily casualties in 2005, at 2.32, and 2004, at 2.33.”
While U.S. troop casualties have fallen, reports indicate Iraqi deaths are rising again in Baghdad to pre-surge levels.
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Hooray for confirmation bias.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:32 pmI was wondering if it were possible that there might be a seasonal drop-off in casualties, that is, if warfare lagged because of the hot months of summer. Have previous Julys shown a lowering of casualties?
Just curious.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:32 pmGee…I don’t think I saw the media report any of this information.
Hmmm. Why do you think that is? Aren’t they supposed to inform the public or something like that?
July 31st, 2007 at 11:33 pmConcerning my previous post,
http://icasualties.org/oif/
a brief look at the figures seems to support my hypothesis, in all but the first year of the War/Occupation.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:35 pmEstimating progress in an occupied country by numbers of deaths of the invading forces. Brilliant.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:35 pmSigh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n13CU-NvPMU
July 31st, 2007 at 11:36 pmAnd, let’s not forget the countless thousands and thousands of Iraqis who’ve been killed. Whose only crime was being born an Iraqi.
From what I’ve read, nearly 2 million have been killed since the wars and sanctions began back in 1991.
Aggressive war was once punished as a war crime back at Nuremburg, and I believe that this aggressive war holds some very serious legal and moral implications for all those involved…
Some thoughts on this:
“Collateral Damage is Murder”
July 31st, 2007 at 11:39 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/collateral_damage_is_murder
Well duh, of course casualty rates will increase! That only proves that the enemy is losing and he’s becoming more desperate! That’s what Bush once said so it must be true! Of course by that logic if casualty rates were to drop, that means we’re losing. Oh well.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:40 pmSoccer people, soccer.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:44 pmThis is the deadliest July in the war for US military. 74 US dead.
July 06: 43 US dead.
July 05: 54 US dead
July 04: 54 US dead
July 03: 48 US dead
http://icasualties.org/oif/
July 31st, 2007 at 11:46 pm#8
July 31st, 2007 at 11:46 pmChad — See#7 Above. this time, try to read the Entire COMMENT!
This makes me sick.
Averaging the deaths of the troops by month? And the media finds a dip in deaths “encouraging?”
I’m sure the families of all the dead — military and Iraqi — find this quite comforting.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:49 pm/sarc
What was the “deadliest” July during the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, or Vietnam?
July 31st, 2007 at 11:52 pmThis may be part of the reason the September date was seen as so important. BushCo knew that war casualties were bound to go down in the hot summer months, and that they would then be able to tout these figures as a sign of progress.
I am reminded that during the American Revolution, fighting pretty much came to a stop during the harsh winter months (and thus the famous Valley Forge encampment).
July 31st, 2007 at 11:54 pmEgreggious, Esq.:
I’m reminded of noted historian, McCollough, who opined that we would never have won that American Revolution had today’s media been reporting back then.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:58 pmUsing decreased death rates of troops to substantiate success in Iraq is sick and, frankly, irresponsible. Forgetting for a moment that one death is too many in this stupid, avoidable war, there are a variety of factors that one would would need to know to give the statistic meaning. How freequently are troops exposed to attacks? Where are they patrolling? How does July compare to other months?
It just seems to me that the con job of this Administration will be to claim improvement in September and then ask for more time.
July 31st, 2007 at 11:58 pmI heard something on Countdown tonight that made me furious. There is some Democrat who is kind of like the “den mother” and he was quoted as saying that if Petrayus comes back in September with good news on Iraq, that the Democrats would lose support for withdrawal from some of the moderate Democrats. So, they are going to believe anything that Betrayus says, no matter of the reality of the situation. What is wrong with those “Democrats”. What is wrong with our country? Have we all gone bat shit insane?
July 31st, 2007 at 11:59 pmComment by bilbobaggins — July 31, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
I suppose there’s no chance Betrayus’s news could be so good that we could start withdrawal immediately?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:02 amAlso, wasn’t the point of the surge supposed to be to make life better for the Iraqis?
The Iraqi civilian and military deathtoll increased between June and July.
The surge is supposed to make the two years left of the Bush Permanant Occupation sustainable with the American public.
The Iraqi people don’t figure in to the mix.
Dishonesty reigns supreme.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 12:03 amWhat was the “deadliest†July during the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, or Vietnam?
Comment by Jake D. — July 31, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
Use “the Google” and find out for yourself.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:04 amToo bad Pelosi took impeachment “off the table” and the Dems don’t even have the votes to de-fund the war.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:04 amFor the record, I already know the total U.S. casualties lost in each of those conflicts — I doubt mainstream media ever compared MONTHLY totals though, before Viet Nam at least.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:06 amWhat is wrong with those “Democratsâ€. What is wrong with our country? Have we all gone bat shit insane?
Comment by bilbobaggins — July 31, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
They have no spine when it’s important — like the Republicans.
We need a clean sweep of Congress — vote out all the incumbents.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:07 amGSD:
As it should be, for the AMERICAN President, collateral damage is not as important as winning the war.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:08 amComment by Jake D. — August 1, 2007 @ 12:06 am
So stop the passive/aggressive crap already.
For the record, I’m on your Ignore List, so no responding to me — even just for the record (whatever the hell that might be).
August 1st, 2007 at 12:08 amRUN, CINDY, RUN!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:08 amAnyone else beside Zooey want to discuss the topic?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:09 amAs it should be, for the AMERICAN President, collateral damage is not as important as winning the war.
Comment by Jake D. — August 1, 2007 @ 12:08 am
I’d forgotten how bloodthirsty you are. Thanks for reminding me.
Freeze out the Jake troll.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:10 amWe need a clean sweep of Congress — vote out all the incumbents.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 12:07 am
I guess I’m not the only one in a sour mood tonight.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:11 amThe Iraqi civilian and military deathtoll increased between June and July.
Comment by GSD — August 1, 2007 @ 12:03 am
Hey, you’re messing with my theory! :-)
August 1st, 2007 at 12:14 amWhat is wrong with those “Democratsâ€. What is wrong with our country? Have we all gone bat shit insane?
Comment by bilbobaggins
Look up CFR and see how many dems. are on the members lists. News media, politicians, CEOs of defence contractors, Carlyle Group. These are the people that intend for us to go down this set path.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:15 amSomebody needs to watch “The West Wing” episode, written by Shroom “Bloodthirsty” Sorkin, that answers the question Why is an American life “worth more” than a foreigner’s life?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:16 amLee,
I want the people to have this country back.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:16 amLee,
I want the people to have this country back.
Comment by Egreggious, Esq.
since 1866, corporations are people Egg. And they have the country now.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:17 amcorporations vote with their checkbooks and they influence us with their newspapers and news agencies like Fox and CNN.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:19 amHere it is: “Inauguration Part 1″
President Bartlet wonders “Why is a Kuhndunese life worth less to me than an American life?” Bailey replies: “I don’t know, sir, but it is.”
August 1st, 2007 at 12:19 amTHANK GOD FOR CORPORATIONS!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:20 amsince 1866, corporations are people Egg. And they have the country now.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 12:17 am
Well, as long as corporations are people, I guess that’s OK then.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:21 amWhat was the “deadliest†July during the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, or Vietnam?
Comment by Jake D. — July 31, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
Totally dishonest comparision. Ignore!!! Ignore!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:21 amCFR website has a great deal of information about Globalization and even a report on the pending worsening of the US ecconomic model for the average citizen, and ways to spin the growing disent about it to make people think faster globalization is the way to fix it.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:22 amCFR is behind the AMERO, and the SPP. Check out there map of where the most educated students are in the field of geo-petrolium studies…
August 1st, 2007 at 12:24 amin north america, its Mexico.
I guess I’m not the only one in a sour mood tonight.
Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — August 1, 2007 @ 12:11 am
I get cranky about the state of this country, and the dead and injured troops — and countless Iraqis.
The troll doesn’t help.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:24 amTotally dishonest comparision. Ignore!!! Ignore!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 1, 2007 @ 12:21 am
See #27. Oy…. :)
August 1st, 2007 at 12:25 amCFR = Council on Foreign Relations?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:26 amThe troll doesn’t help.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 12:24 am
I’ve always thought that having a clown at a funeral was in bad taste.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:27 amI’ve always thought that having a clown at a funeral was in bad taste.
Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — August 1, 2007 @ 12:27 am
Especially a Death’s Head Clown. Ugh. I hate clowns….
August 1st, 2007 at 12:28 amthe count by the DOD most likely is correct, that is the number of deaths ON Iraqi soil. We hear the numbers and mentally add this up to the previous number. BUT what about those who have died while in transit to or after arriving to the hospital? You never hear of them or see it added to the DOD number. They do not count? Another sham by our DOD?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:28 amCFR = Council on Foreign Relations?
Comment by Egreggious, Esq.
yes. i would be posting links, but the site is down until 12:30 eastern. 1 minute left. I will link you to the “New Deal for Globalization”
August 1st, 2007 at 12:29 amI suppose it might be OK if it was a clown’s funeral.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:29 ami would be posting links, but the site is down until 12:30 eastern.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 12:29 am
I noticed.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:30 amI suppose it might be OK if it was a clown’s funeral.
Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — August 1, 2007 @ 12:29 am
Don’t look for any deep hidden meaning there.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:31 amSomebody needs to watch “The West Wing†episode..blah blah blah
August 1st, 2007 at 12:33 am—————————–
Well SOMEBODY needs to pick up a book and quit watching so much TV. This somebody is Jake D.ipshite.
Didn’t Tony Snowjob say it’s only a number?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:33 amHey, didn’t someone mention this on a different thread, but without all the negative spin?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:33 amLee,
I think I’m going to call it a night.
If you want to leave some links for me here, I’ll check them out tomorrow.
Goodnight, all.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:34 amEven without Martin Sheen, I would have known an American life is worth more than an Iraqi life . . .
August 1st, 2007 at 12:34 amHey, didn’t someone mention this on a different thread, but without all the negative spin?
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 12:33 am
I think you’re right. The spin on the deaths was very positive, if I remember correctly.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:35 amGoodnight, Egreggious, Esq.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:35 amI noticed.
Comment by Egreggious, Esq.
It’s a long essay that admits since 2000 the “real money” numbers for average american workers has dropped to pre 1920 numbers.
This, he says, is causing a rise in the “protectionist” movement; ending NAFTA, GATT and others.
He suggest various ways to fix it by convincing americans that more free trade and less regulation is the way to go.
If you want it, I will email it to you as a word file. It is a very interesting look into the midset of these people.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:36 amComment by had enough — August 1, 2007 @ 12:28 am
I wonder if someone would blow the whistle on the true death count, and if it would be high enough to motivate the masses?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:36 amYou did good today, P.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:36 amGoodnight, Egg!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:36 amKudos for ignoring the J-troll who Shall not Be Named, TP’ers. Now add mr. Egreggious to the list.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:38 amHey, didn’t someone mention this on a different thread, but without all the negative spin?
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 12:33 am
How does “positive spin” on all this death happen — exactly?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:38 amIf you want it, I will email it to you as a word file. It is a very interesting look into the midset of these people.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 12:36 am
If it’s not too heavy on the economics, that would be cool.
Economics makes my elbows itch.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:38 amKudos for ignoring the J-troll who Shall not Be Named, TP’ers. Now add mr. Egreggious to the list.
Comment by sponson — August 1, 2007 @ 12:38 am
That ain’t happening.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:39 amEconomics makes my elbows itch.
Comment by Egreggious, Esq.
It’s more theory and spin than anything else. I’ll zap it and some links.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:40 amI wonder if someone would blow the whistle on the true death count, and if it would be high enough to motivate the masses?
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 12:36 am
You can bet everything possible is done to make those figures as low as possible.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:40 amIf only one soldier dies, isn’t that more than just a statistic for his family?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:40 amIt’s ridiculous to compare body counts in certain months, years, wars, etc., to make a point. The pentagon, the DOD, and the media all would like to point to numbers as telling a tale of progress — well, I doubt that is of great comfort to loved ones.
It is more a macabre version of childhood mentality — mine is bigger and/or better than yours.
Besides, having Odierno as spokesman, second to Petraeus is a dubious distinction.
Goodnight again!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:41 amYou dropped a title or two. glad you kept Esq.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:42 amGoodnight, John Boy.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:42 amI was taught it rude to include “Esq.” as one’s own title.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:42 amTrying to use the deaths for political gain.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:43 amGee…I don’t think I saw the media report any of this information.
Hmmm. Why do you think that is? Aren’t they supposed to inform the public or something like that?
Comment by Mark @ News Corpse — July 31, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Maybe they are waiting, hoping that the decrease isn’t an anomaly rather than immediately seeking a way to make fewer American deaths seem like a bad thing. ;)
August 1st, 2007 at 12:43 amI wonder if someone would blow the whistle on the true death count, and if it would be high enough to motivate the masses?
Comment by Zooey
The masses that still support this administration will always justify deaths and lost money and coruption on “the war on terror”.
There is only one way to end their support of this President and stop this war.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:44 am“U.S. troop casualties have fallen”
The surge is working, as reported yesterday by CNN, CBS, Fox News, The New York Times and ABC news.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:45 amAmen, Dr. Dog!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:46 amThere is only one way to end their support of this President and stop this war.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 12:44 am
I thought that might be a pretty big “if.”
August 1st, 2007 at 12:46 amAssassination, Lee J. Cobb?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:46 am“I get cranky about the state of this country, and the dead and injured troops — and countless Iraqis.”
You know no friends or relatives who are serving in Iraq. You have no say in the matter.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:47 amFreeze out the Jake troll and the Dr Dog troll.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:48 amECHO CHAMBER HERE WE COME!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:48 amGreat job rebutting these left wingers, Jake. We must rebut everything they say so nobody will think our silence is a verication of the accurarcy of their bogus allegations.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:48 amIf you want to end the last 26%ers blind faith in this administration, you have to prove to them that there is no “war on terror”.
You have to reopen investigation into 9/11. Once these diehards know what happened and that there is no-one lurking in caves keeping the most awesome war machine in history at bay, then they will help to sweep this administration out before Nov. ‘08
August 1st, 2007 at 12:48 amAnd the media finds a dip in deaths “encouraging?†-Zo
You do realize that “a dip in deaths” means less Soldiers were died, right?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:49 amYou know no friends or relatives who are serving in Iraq. You have no say in the matter.
Comment by Ralph — August 1, 2007 @ 12:47 am
You know that, huh? How would you know?
Liar.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:49 amHas anyone heard from Craig L. lately?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:49 amAnd I’ll bet not one of the dead is a neo-con or a relative of a neo-con.
They only send others to their deaths, in the names of oil and wealth.
How long will we oblige them? What’s it going to take to say NO MORE?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:49 amThanks, D-Dog!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:49 amFreeze out Zooey. He doesn’t like different opinions.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:49 amProve you know somebody in Iraq, Zooey. Either a friend or a relative.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:50 amThere is only one way to end their support of this President and stop this war.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 12:44 am
August 1st, 2007 at 12:50 am————————————————————————————
You would make Lenin proud!
You do realize that “a dip in deaths†means less Soldiers were died, right?
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 12:49 am
You do realize that 73 soldiers died, right? Why are you celebrating that?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:50 amShe.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:50 amComment by G Whiz — August 1, 2007 @ 12:49 am
neocons don’t exist!
If you think that they do, PROVE IT!
You got nothin’
August 1st, 2007 at 12:51 amZooey, do you know if Craig L. has been re-deployed yet?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:51 amProve you know somebody in Iraq, Zooey. Either a friend or a relative.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 1, 2007 @ 12:50 am
Exactly how would I go about that, dingleberry?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:52 amAnd how would you prove I don’t?
Assassination, Lee J. Cobb?
Comment by Jake D.
There was another thread where one of the left wingers here wished the death upon the Chief Justice of the United States. They are sick whackos and they need to be confronted.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:52 amYou did good today, P.
Comment by Egreggious, Esq.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:52 am—————-
Well thanks, Egreg.
See ya later.
I haven’t heard from Tired of Fighting in a while either.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:52 amZooey, do you know if Craig L. has been re-deployed yet?
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 1, 2007 @ 12:51 am
Do you mean Chris L? I don’t know either way. Sorry, dear.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:53 amThere is only one way to end their support of this President and stop this war.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
How do you intend to stop it, stupid? You don’t have the votes.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:53 amI’m sorry, it is Chris L. I’m still too new here. Too many names.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:54 amI haven’t heard from Tired of Fighting in a while either.
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 1, 2007 @ 12:52 am
That’s true. Was he going back, as well?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:54 amYou do realize that 73 soldiers died, right? Why are you celebrating that?
Comment by Zooey
What were their names? What were they like? What did they mean to their families?
You are just using the number for political gain. You don’t give a shhit about them.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:55 amYou do realize that 73 soldiers died, right? Why are you celebrating that?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:55 amComment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 12:50 am
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Well, like any normal person, I am not celebrating the fact that soldiers died. I am merely saying that it is a good sign that the number of deaths has decreased.
FEMA Report is contradicted by 9/11 Commission Report
9/11 Commission Report is contradicted by NIST
NIST is contradicted by UL studies and models
“Why the Towers Fell” by PBS with NOVA animation leaves the core
Popular Mechanics is owned by Hearst Corp (Remember the Maine?)
August 1st, 2007 at 12:55 amand there report is more scientificly flawed than the FEMA.
That’s true. Was he going back, as well?
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 12:54 am
Yes. That’s got to be tough, him having lost his best friend over there and all.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:55 amThis little chart should be sent to every newspaper in every town and city in America. Why isn’t such a simple chart as this more readily available to the American public at large? So simple and yet, so powerful!
And what is the relationship of these statistics to this notion prevalent these days of “progress” in Iraq?
Does more death equal more progress? Hmmm.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:56 amEgregg, I thought you were turning in for the night?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:56 amExactly how would I go about that, dingleberry?
And how would you prove I don’t?
Comment by Zooey
What is their name and where do they serve?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:56 amWell, like any normal person, I am not celebrating the fact that soldiers died. I am merely saying that it is a good sign that the number of deaths has decreased.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 12:55 am
It probably doesn’t feel that way to their families.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:56 amGear up, folks. The plan is made and the play has begun.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:56 amThe surge will be given a rating of at least a B+ by September, if not an A. The media will duly note all the rosy reports from the military spokesmen, the Pentagon will find any way to report statistics that support their case and finally, the savior, Petraeus, will make his pronouncement, the Repugs will genuflect, the Dems will bow down, Bush will beatify him and the war will go on.
I haven’t heard from Tired of Fighting in a while either.
Comment by Martha Stewart
I thought he said something about going back in Aug.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:57 amZooey, I forgot to ask you if you actually looked at that tribute video to my cousin. I can give you the link again if you like.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:57 amYes. That’s got to be tough, him having lost his best friend over there and all.
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 1, 2007 @ 12:55 am
He very well may lose more friends.
Sgt Higgins and hacker bob both anticipate having to go back, as well.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:57 amEgregg, I thought you were turning in for the night?
Comment by Philonous
Liberals lie.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:57 am“Petraeus, will make his pronouncement, the Repugs will genuflect, the Dems will bow down, Bush will beatify him and the war will go on.”
The Republicans are going to retake the congress in 2008.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:58 amZooey, I forgot to ask you if you actually looked at that tribute video to my cousin. I can give you the link again if you like.
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 1, 2007 @ 12:57 am
I didn’t look at it the other night, I wasn’t in the right frame of mind. If you post the link again, I’ll look at it tomorrow morning. Zoo Jr wants to get online in a few minutes.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:59 amI don’t think I’ve really met hacker bob. Sarge is cool though. I really respect him. He has enough worries at home without having to go back.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:00 amLiberals lie.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Like a rug.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:00 amWell, I better call it a night too, Zooey. I’ll post the link here in a second so you can find it tomorrow, if you want.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:00 amWhat is their name and where do they serve?
Comment by Ralph — August 1, 2007 @ 12:56 am
Yeah, right. I’m posting names. Not.
My cousin — serving in Iraq.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:01 amFriends — serving in Iraq.
My boss’s son — dead in Iraq.
You know what, I have just about had it with all who try to make it seem that because ONLY 73 Soldiers and Marines were killed this month that somehow that justifies progress. Suppose ONLY 20 students were killed every month at some university in this country every month as opposed to the 32 that were murdered at VA. Tech, WOULD THAT BE PROGRESS.
Those 73 Soldiers and Marines were Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Wifes, Husbands, Friends, and fellow warfighters of mine, and for some elite ass chicken-hawks to spend a week in an area that has been swept before they entered and claim all is well is total BS.
I AM TIRED of all who continue to accept any and everything that is being told to you by people who dont have the guts to put their and their loved ones lives on line for this war, but will try to find SOMETHING to justify their F-ups over the past going on 5 years. Anything that can be spun into something positive is seen as progress, haven’t we beeen hearing this garbage for too long now?
After awhile if you say the sun is gonna come out here in the Seattle-Tacoma (Fort Lewis) area after months of rain it eventually will happen so does that mean that thats progress and did people have to stay and die until you got that right?
Are we that irrelevant to you that ONLY 73 dying is a good thing? Are you so removed by the war because you have noone in the region that ONLY 73 is good news? Do you support the war and its mis-handlers so much over the ones that are fighting, surviving, and dying in it that its a good thing that ONLY 73 of us managed to get ourselfs killed this month instead of the USUAL hundred and some change? Are you that de-sensitized by death because its not gonna be knocking at your door in a Military uniform that you just dont give a F@$# as long as your party wins and your taxes stay low?
The next time a gunman goes into a school or mall or restaurant and shoots and kills scores of people in an area where your children or loved ones are, while your driving, walking, running, hysterically to the scene, think of the ONLY 73 families who will be getting them phone calls this month, and the month after that, and the month after that, and the month after that, and the month after that, and the month after that……………………………..
RIP
SGT Stephen R Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STYRKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
ONLY the 1,462nd Soldier to die in Iraq
August 1st, 2007 at 1:01 amT.P.!!!!!!!!!!
YOU DEFINITELY NEED YOUR OLD BLOGGERS BACK!
RYAN NEAT,UNCLE HO, TRUEBLUE, TODD, UNBELIEVABLE, .WHAT HAPPENED T.P.?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:01 am
It probably doesn’t feel that way to their families.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 12:56 am
August 1st, 2007 at 1:01 am—————
I didn’t say anything about feelings. I said that it is a good sign that less soldiers had died. That statement does not trivialize those who were killed.
http://mattocks.blogspot.com/2007/06/stephen-edward-colley.html
Here it is, Zooey.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:02 amWell, I better call it a night too, Zooey. I’ll post the link here in a second so you can find it tomorrow, if you want.
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 1, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Thanks Martha, I’ll bookmark it.
Goodnight!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:02 amzooey, all – check out what i posted on the specter thread…
let me know what you think…
i’m off to bed now…
August 1st, 2007 at 1:02 amg’nite all…
Conservatives:
Every post in these threads needs to be rebutted. Liberals are liars. If we don’t respond people will think their false accuations are true. Confront the liberals, 24/7!!!! On every thread!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:02 amHi tired of Fighting. We were just talking about you.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:03 amHey, Tired of Fighting.
You’re a good Soldier.
Always there when we really need you.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:04 amComment by katy — August 1, 2007 @ 1:02 am
Bookmarked. I’ll read it in the morning. Thanks!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:04 am#
I haven’t heard from Tired of Fighting in a while either.
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 1, 2007 @ 12:52 am
August 1st, 2007 at 1:04 amHes BACK!
Comment by Tired Of Fighting — August 1, 2007 @ 1:01 am
Here it is, Zooey.
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 1, 2007 @ 1:02 am
Got it, thanks!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:05 amI didn’t say anything about feelings. I said that it is a good sign that less soldiers had died. That statement does not trivialize those who were killed.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 1:01 am
See #122.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:06 amThe only way to end this conflict and bring these soldiers home is to reopen the investigation into 9/11 and indict Cheney and Rumsfeld for premeditated murder of 2,700+ US citizens.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:06 amGnite
August 1st, 2007 at 1:06 amGood evening to you Lee and always to you Egreggious.
RIP
August 1st, 2007 at 1:06 amSGT Stephen R Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STYRKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
See #122.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 1:06 am
August 1st, 2007 at 1:07 am———
I’ve seen it.
wow… talk about timing…
very profound, tired of fighting…
heart breaking…
take care of yourself…
August 1st, 2007 at 1:08 am.
Comment by Tired Of Fighting — August 1, 2007 @ 1:01 am
Thank you, ToF.
You have a great way of putting things in perspective — for people with souls.
Goodnight.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:09 amFamilies of military dead do not find it comforting that you are using the name of their loved one for political gain, especially if they don’t believe in your cause.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:09 amTired of Fighting is my hero.
I don’t mean that in a cheesy way.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:09 amEven one death is one too many.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:09 amNo lives should have been sacrificed on the altar of chympego.
You don’t care about who has died, Rucerious, you only care about your narrow agenda.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:11 amFamilies of military dead do not find it comforting that you are using the name of their loved one for political gain, especially if they don’t believe in your cause.
Comment by Dr. Dog
only dimwhitted sympathizer like yourself would consider calling to bring the troops home, “political gain”.
You have no human capasity what-so-ever. which is why we call you trolls.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:11 amDr. Dog.
SCREW political gain! Just get us out of Iraq and you bastards can have the fu(king White House and Congress and whatever the Hell else you want!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:11 amMuzzle it, dogbreath. You have no idea how those families feel, or what THEIR cause might be.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:12 amI fought in Nam, you jackass, I know exactly what combat deaths are, and what they mean. Shove your neocolon opinion up your ass.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:13 amDr. Dog and all other trolls;
Very soon we will all know who really flew those planes into the towers. These people you support are the terrorists. And soon the rest of America will know it.
as you bastards probably already know.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:14 amJust get us out of Iraq and you bastards can have the fu(king White House and Congress and whatever the Hell else you want!
Comment by Egreggious, Esq
We will have the White House and congress anyway.
We’ll leave Iraq when it is a stable environment there. We are not going to leave the country to terrorists.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:14 amHow bout it, chickendog, why not sign up, they’re offering 20 grand for you to put your life on the line for your beliefs>>?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:14 amWe’ll leave Iraq when it is a stable environment there.
And how’s that goin for ya, about 30 or so years from now when all the oil’s gone, that’d be just about right for you?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:15 amMuzzle it, dogbreath. You have no idea how those families feel, or what THEIR cause might be.
Comment by RUCerious
Don’t you dare use the name of Sgt. Sherman for political gain. You don’t have the authorization from his familiy.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:16 amWe’ll leave Iraq when it is a stable environment there. We are not going to leave the country to terrorists.
Comment by Dr. Dog
That’s the problem with you delusional dimwhits; you think you are a part of their plan….
You have no idea what they are about. And you have no idea that you won’t profit from it like you think.
You are the worst kind of stooges; greedy.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:17 amSCREW political gain! Just get us out of Iraq and you bastards can have the fu(king White House and Congress and whatever the Hell else you want!
Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — August 1, 2007 @ 1:11 am
August 1st, 2007 at 1:17 am———————————
If the US pulls out of Iraq, and the sectarian violence increases to such a point that it becomes a “genocide,” we will be legally forced to go right back in with the UN for humanitarian purposes according to the UN Genocide Convention of 1948.
And how’s that goin for ya, about 30 or so years from now when all the oil’s gone, that’d be just about right for you?
Comment by RUCerious
It’s all about oil. That’s a great way to honor the life of Sgt. Sherman, douchebag, kock sucker.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:18 amComment by Dr. Dog
back to this pathetic ploy, again? shouldn’t you be name jacking him like last time?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:18 amIf the US pulls out of Iraq, and the sectarian violence increases to such a point that it becomes a “genocide,†we will be legally forced to go right back in with the UN for humanitarian purposes according to the UN Genocide Convention of 1948.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 1:17 am
Sounds good to me!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:18 amSounds good to me!
Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — August 1, 2007 @ 1:18 am
—
Name-hijacking?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:19 amWell! Gotta break a few eggs to make an omlet!
-B. Kristol
August 1st, 2007 at 1:20 amComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Especially the first part.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:20 amvideos all thinking people should see. Great site. Iraq for Sale, and lots of others.
http://houston911truth.org/videos-all-thinking-people-should-see/
August 1st, 2007 at 1:22 amLee thinks that America attacked itself on 9/11. These are the demented minds we are dealing with.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:23 amEspecially the first part.
Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — August 1, 2007 @ 1:20 am
August 1st, 2007 at 1:23 am———-
Well, I can pretty much guarantee that the US will not leave Iraq until the sectarian conflicts have been resolved.
Well, I can pretty much guarantee that the US will not leave Iraq until the sectarian conflicts have been resolved.
Comment by Philonous
The soldiers in Iraq see these comments made by liberals. They hear them everyday trashing what they are doing over their, dishonoring them by saying they are there for oil. Saying they are defeated. Liberals need to be destoryed politically.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:25 amUsing decreased death rates of troops to substantiate success in Iraq is sick and, frankly, irresponsible.
Comment by William B. Jenaen — July 31, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
Granted the death of one American is too many. But if the steady rise in deaths is a sign the situation is worsening, a steady decrease would seem to mean the situation is improving. The lower death rate for July is probably an anomaly rather than being attributable to an improvement in the situation. But it seems TP could have waited to see if the decrease continued before they jumped in with their monthly death averages. Dash every glimmer of hope for those families!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:26 amlink to National Petrolium Council
http://www.npc.org/
AEI lee Raymond heads it up now. what a coincidence, huh?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:26 amLiberals need to be destoryed politically.
Comment by Ralph — August 1, 2007 @ 1:25 am
August 1st, 2007 at 1:28 am—————-
The comments here are extremely emotional, and even delusional (see #158 by Lee J Cobb). But I don’t see these radical libs as a threat politically, I am not too worried.
link to Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas…
http://www.aspo-usa.com/
read about connections to globalization and market will be in 5 years,
come to your own conclusions.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:28 amAEI lee Raymond heads it up now. what a coincidence, huh?
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
What a coincidence that Al Gore holds thousdands of shares of Ocidental petrolium stock, huh?
You rotten piece of crap.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:29 amBut I don’t see these radical libs as a threat politically, I am not too worried.
Comment by Philonous
They hold huge sway over the current Democrat candidates for president. They are all speaking at the Kos convention, for example.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:30 amLiberals need to be destoryed politically.
Comment by Ralph — August 1, 2007 @ 1:25 am
August 1st, 2007 at 1:30 am———————
Hell, with Extremist Lefties like Lee J Cobb,
the Liberals practically self-destruct!
Does anybody here have a crystal ball?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:30 amYou keep watching boys and girls. Executive privilege can’t keep the records from the investigators forever.
eventually that big safe in Cheneys office will be opened, and what do you think he keeps in there?
bin ladens fake video tape? or the “white paper proof” Powell never produced?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:31 amHell, with Extremist Lefties like Lee J Cobb,
the Liberals practically self-destruct!
Comment by Philonous
I agree.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:31 amRalph, then why did Republicans get destroyed last election and why are polls indicating that they are in similar dires straits in the 2008 elections?
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 1:32 ameventually that big safe in Cheneys office will be opened, and what do you think he keeps in there?
bin ladens fake video tape?
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
Democrats need to denounce extremist comments like this.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:32 amIf you want a poll, look at the one showing the 14% approval rating for the Dem congress.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:33 amRalph, show me your long list of denuciations of Ann Coulter extremism. Oh that’s right, it’s OK for her.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 1:33 amwhy all the secracy boys? what are they hiding?
who is Zelikow and why was he on the Commission?
just exactly what have they been secretly listening to? If it was al Qaeda, wouldn’t they just show the evidence and be done with it?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:34 amFor some reason my reply to the one called MR. Dog is not showing up and maybe for good reasons. While I usually dont reply to idiots I felt that hs/she/it deserved a response. If it shows up good if not well thats good too for I dont want to disrespect anyone else who may feel disrespected (not my target, those of you I respect). But I get nothing but love from the Sherman Family, and We all love each other as if we’ve known each other for years, for we share a bond.
We all knew and loved and still love Big Perm.
F you Dog.
RIP
August 1st, 2007 at 1:34 amSGT Stephen R Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STYRKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Does anybody here think it shows dire straights with Rudy leading Hillary in all polls?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:34 amRalph, yet the polls also show that Americans want the Democrats to have more say in the war execution and more and more Americans identify as Democrats.
Wait, that’s right, polls are meaningless when they don’t confirm that Bush is God.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 1:35 amThey are all speaking at the Kos convention, for example.
Americans know that Kos is a hate-site. If the convention gets any press at all, the hatefilled comments will certainly be mentioned.
Don’t get me wrong, I am here trying to talk some sense into these libs, but at the same time I know that the majority of informed Americans (even regular liberals) are not as nutty as these folks.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:36 amDoes anybody here think that Bush gives one sh*t about these bogus polls?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:37 amsince Cheneys net worth in 2000 was around 1.9 million…
how come it’s around 70 million now?
how much money does a VP make?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:38 amwhy all the secracy boys? what are they hiding?
who is Zelikow and why was he on the Commission?
just exactly what have they been secretly listening to? If it was al Qaeda, wouldn’t they just show the evidence and be done with it?
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
You are a nut. Even the lefties here know it.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:38 ambin ladens fake video tape?
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 1:31 am
———-
Do you mean this video:
August 1st, 2007 at 1:39 amhttp://www.muckrakerreport.com/id372.html
???
Why won’t Republicans denounce Ann Coulter?
Oh wait she endorsed Republican Duncan Hunter.
That’s right, it is OK for Republicans to call for assassinations of judges and bombings of American buildings.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 1:39 amDoes anybody here know what a vested stock option is?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:39 amThat’s right, it is OK for Republicans to call for assassinations of judges and bombings of American buildings.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
Source?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:40 amWe should look upon Sgt. Sherman’s death as another “positive sign.â€
Just a bunch of deadenders in their last throes after the cakewalk mission was accomplished. I wouldn’t be surprised if they named a grand square in Baghdad after Bush.
War might last six days…maybe six weeks…I doubt six months.
With Iraq’s oil revenues it will virtually pay for itself.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:40 amGSD thinks that pointing to bad behavior excuses other bad behavior.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:41 amYou can’t seriously believe that story?
the premise of it is, “if we stretch the film image, he looks thinner”
is that how stupid you are?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:42 amHere is another lib who mocks the service of Sgt. Sherman. You are a sick bunch.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:42 amSource? What a clown. You Republicans dance up and down when Coulter jokes about John Edwards dead child.
You say it is her right to joke about poisoning Justice Stevens or blowing up the NYTimes building.
Go read her bile filled screeds.
Ann Coulter, hatemonger that no Republican will denounce.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 1:43 amIt’s a “positive sign”.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:43 amGSD thinks that pointing to bad behavior excuses other bad behavior.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 1, 2007
Kind of like the 7 years of “Bill Clinton did it” excuses emanating from every mouthbreathing pie-hole this side of the Potomac.
Funny stuff.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 1:44 amIt is shameful for you to degrade the name of Sgt. Sherman. I hope you rot in hell.
Comment by Ralph — August 1, 2007 @ 1:36 am
——————-
Since we are all posting anonymously, I try not to address personal issues, for there is no way to know if some of the claims made here are really true.
However, I give people the benefit of the doubt, there is no reason not to believe Tired of Fighting when he says that he is very close with Sgt. Sherman’s family.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:44 amDoes anybody here know what a vested stock option is?
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS
a vested stock option in a nearly bankrupt company that was paying out millions to asbestos clean up lawsuits….
that just happened to get no-bid contract after no-bid contract and the value of the company has increased 9 fold since 2000.
those kind of “vested” stock options are the best.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:45 ambut I am glad you brought that up, because that really goes to motive, doesn’t it?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:45 amBrassmark,
Tell ‘em how I only preyed on one boy and he was 18. I get a good laugh outta that!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:47 amComment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 1:45 am
Thank you, Lee.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:48 amthat is what some would call a vested stock option.
others would call it feeding your ex company alot of lucrative contracts even after that company has been caught cooking the books for more than 50 million US dollars and providing the service men and women sub-standard services.
those are the kinds of Vested Options we can do without.
did I miss anything.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:49 amI smell a US dollar fire sale in Asia.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 1:49 am“there is no reason not to believe Tired of Fighting when he says that he is very close with Sgt. Sherman’s family.”
Except that he found the name on google and it also showed the number in which he died.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:50 amthe premise of it is, “if we stretch the film image, he looks thinnerâ€
No the premise is:
This means that the video you claim to be fake, has already been distorted by a conversion from the PAL format to the NTSC format.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:50 amdid I miss anything?
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 1:49 am
Yeah. We’re moving to Dubai !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeeeehaaaaw !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:51 amComment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 1:49 am
Thank you, Lee.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:51 amI smell a US dollar fire sale in Asia.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
You have to dramatically raise interest rates to raise the price of the dollar.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:52 amAnd when we made up companies in the “Caymans” we could get around the embargo and deal with Iran, Iraq, or any of them!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:53 amThis means that the video you claim to be fake, has already been distorted by a conversion from the PAL format to the NTSC format.
Comment by Philonous
Case closed.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:53 amAnd when we made up companies in the “Caymans†we could get around the embargo and deal with Iran, Iraq, or any of them!!!!!
Comment by Dick Cheney
Sounds like George Soros.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:54 amSoros ain’t running America!!!
I am!!!!
Know why my Secret Service code name is “Edgar”?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:55 amDoes anybody here think it is hypocritical for George Soros to buy stock in Halliburton?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:55 amRalph thinks that pointing to bad behavior excuses other bad behavior.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:57 amCase closed.
Comment by Ralph
You should call the FBI, cus, they don’t see it that way. i’m sure they’re just waiting for your educated opinion.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:57 amBrassmask thinks that pointing to bad behavior excuses other bad behavior.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:57 amSoros ain’t the King of the World!!!
I am !!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:58 amThat’s one hell of a goddamn metric. Daily average dead soldiers is lower than last July’s daily average of dead soldiers.
As for Dr. Dog, and Ralph, and all the others who think this is a Grand War…
A friend of mine was 101st Airborne, into Iraq in the north when it began. One tour there, then to Afghanistan, then back to Iraq.
His advice to you who are enjoying the war might be this: Go enjoy it up close. Enlist. You are not doing any good here, typing insults against those that disagree with you on a website. Go enlist and do some good for your cause.
But I’m just messing with you, he wouldn’t say that, because he didn’t believe we should have ever gone into Iraq. But I am sure he’d tell you all to grow up.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:58 am#220
Source?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:59 amWhoops, #220 got deleted by TP. It must have been something naughty.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:59 amAnd when we made up companies in the “Caymans†we could get around the embargo and deal with Iran, Iraq, or any of them!!!!!
Comment by Dick Cheney
right! hedge funds through Caxton Global based on national debt of Iraq!
yea! mo money mo money
August 1st, 2007 at 2:00 amThe icasualties.org website is a great resource for facts and figures regarding the U. S. occupation of Iraq.
The MSM (the White House’s megaphone) conveniently neglects to cite historical trends which may shed further light on the matter of troop deaths to date for July, 2007, remembering that the oppressive heat in Iraq during this time of the year may lead to a temporary lessening of activity of all types.
In 2005, the number of U. S. troop deaths for July that year was 54. The totals for June and August that year were 78 and 85, respectively. Looks like there was a relative lull in July, 2005.
So, let’s look at the year 2006. The total for July of that year was 43. The totals for the June and August of 2006 were 61 and 65, respectively. Looks like another relative lull.
Granted, the trends for the early part of the occupation are less evident, however, the total for July, 2003 was 48 and for July, 2004 was 54.
So, to be fair, why doesn’t the MSM mention that the total for July, 2007 represents a record high for the month of July, the highest previous total for July being 54? The total listed for July, 2007 to date is 74, although this number could still increasfurther, depending upon deaths at the end of the month which won’t be reported for another day or two.
In comparing last year with this year, the total in July, 2006 was 43, with 74 so far during July, 2007. Even if no further deaths are reported for July, 2007, the total so far would represent a 72% increase over the total a year ago.
If this is their idea of success, I’m not sure we’d want to see what their idea of failure looks like.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:00 amLet’s compare media holdings.
George Soros:
Moveon.org
Rupert Murdoch:
List here.
It is obvious in mentally unstable Bush/O’Reilly World that Soros has more influence in the world.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 2:01 amDoes anybody think it is hypocritical for John Edwards to have worked at a hedge fund?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:01 amAnd when the guy parked down the street in the blue chevy with the surreptitious blue strobe light folded over his hood pretends that he’s just adjusting his internal electronics when you ask him why he’s waiting on the street —–
And when you later approach the car and he drives off before you can ask more in-depth questions, and you knock on the door of the house and a women finally appears in a bath towel looking star struck and exclaims that her husband is a police officer and just adjusting his equipment
what do you do or think?
You think – we’re being watched
August 1st, 2007 at 2:02 amMark,
That’s HIGHER—not lower!!!
“The AP notes that “the daily average for U.S. troop deaths in July was at least 2.35 — higher than the daily average of 2.25 last year,”
That’s a “positive sign”.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:02 am“the U. S. occupation of Iraq.”
We are not occupying Iraq.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:03 am#220
Source?
Comment by Ralph
Not hard to find….
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
no mention of attacks in us and says he only wanted for 200 deaths.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:03 amDoes anyone think it is hypocritical of Brassmark to criticize a Democrat for something that is praiseworthy for a Republican to do?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:04 amMark,
That’s HIGHER—not lower!!!
———–
Casualities in Iraq are down, according to TP.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:04 amno mention of attacks in us and says he only wanted for 200 deaths.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
Obviously it is referring to the indictment against him. Jeez, you are dumb.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:06 amMark was talking about july 2007 versus july 2006 and he got it backwards. july 2007 was higher!!!
Can’t you guys read?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:06 amAnd when the dark blue chevy with no markings except a strobe light folded over in front of the windshield becomes the norm in most neighborhoods and no one asks who they are or why they
August 1st, 2007 at 2:07 amre here, and when the knock comes on the door and people are taken away for questioning, no one will be the wiser.
we invaded Afganistan….
we invaded Iraq……
for what? a video tape that has to be stretched to look like Laden?
and you trolls think thats, OK?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:07 amMark was talking about july 2007 versus july 2006 and he got it backwards. july 2007 was higher!!!
Can’t you guys read?
Comment by Dick Cheney
There are more troops there now, stupid.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:08 am#
Mark,
That’s HIGHER—not lower!!!
———–
Way to focus on the point, dude.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:08 amwe invaded Iraq……
for what?
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
For the reasons Hillary Clinton voted for.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:08 amwheres the Proof?
FBI director says there is no credible proof linking highjackers to al Qaeda?
there is more proof linking them to Saud and Pakistan!
FBI Director said that.
Wheres the proof?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:09 amRe: Comment #226 —
For U. S. troop deaths and a wealth of additional information and data regarding U. S. operations in Iraq, the best source I’ve found so far is http://icasualties.org — check it out and you should be able to locate all of the raw data I cited in post #220.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:10 amYou guys seen the map of Iraq divided up into “exploration blocks” from my March 2001 Energy Task Force meetings?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/466503255_f7bb4d5e85_o.jpg
August 1st, 2007 at 2:10 amTP deleted one of the vulgar posts that Tired of Fighting posted to me. He has been discredited.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:10 amFor the reasons Hillary Clinton voted for.
Comment by Ralph
You mean the Bush Administration Lies?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:10 amFBI Director said that.
Wheres the proof?
Comment by Lee J. Cobb —
Source?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:10 amI’ll be glad to go to the detention center and be tortured
I will tell the truth and die for it
My forefathers were tortured in Ireland – starved and beaten
and my family is being tortured today in the US by the same imperialist criminals
But I die proudly for my group
‘They will never destroy us, our spirit, our beliefs, our love, our creativity
My son, who died this year in a motorcycle accident, refused to live by the rules of society. He lived and died free.
And so god willing will I
August 1st, 2007 at 2:12 amYou mean the Bush Administration Lies?
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
No, the authorization of force that Hillary voted for outlines about 20 reasons for attacking Saddam.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:12 am15 came from Saudi Arabia
ISI sent the money
Saddam was the sworn enemy of Bin Laden. Called Saddam a “secular Hedonist”.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:13 amIsn’t that funny? all this secracy and all the executive privilege claims, and all the lies to get us to go to war…
and there is no proof that Bin Laden had anything to do with this.
In fact, the only proof is the big money and no bid contracts…
the put options…
Larry Silversteins Insurance claim and 7.1 billion payoff…
and Cheney was in charge with a mysterious order in the bunker.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:13 amNo, the authorization of force that Hillary voted for outlines about 20 reasons for attacking Saddam.
Comment by Ralph
explain the ones that weren’t lies. to save time.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:14 amSaddam was the sworn enemy of Bin Laden. Called Saddam a “secular Hedonistâ€.
Comment by Dick Cheney
Answar al Islam opperated in Iraq with Saddam’s support and weapons.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:14 amLee is just posting garbage from the truthout site. He’s a parrot.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:14 amexplain the ones that weren’t lies. to save time.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
Why don’t you?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:15 amAnd so god willing will I
Comment by bucketsofbloodforbucketsofoil
I will die on my feet before I live on my knees.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:15 amRalph, Ansar al Islam was in the Kurdish region of Iraq. Saddams planes couldn’t fly there, it was a defacto Kurdish nation.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 2:15 amRalph,
The authorization was for doing it the only LEGAL way…through the UN Security Council.
See, we bugged them and found out the vote was gonna be 4 for us and 11 against. That’s even before the big 5’s veto.
I said GFY and we claimed we had the right anyway.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:15 amI’ll be glad to go to the detention center and be tortured
I will tell the truth and die for it
My forefathers were tortured in Ireland – starved and beaten
and my family is being tortured today in the US by the same imperialist criminals
But I die proudly for my group
‘They will never destroy us, our spirit, our beliefs, our love, our creativity
My son, who died this year in a motorcycle accident, refused to live by the rules of society. He lived and died free.
And so god willing will I
Comment by bucketsofbloodforbucketsofoil —
August 1st, 2007 at 2:16 amAnswar al Islam opperated in Iraq with Saddam’s support and weapons.
Comment by Ralph
he was in a north eastern corridor controled by tribes for a brief time, idiot.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:16 amLove the graph ,think I’ll paste it all over town !
August 1st, 2007 at 2:16 amLee,
It’s better to live on your feet than die on your knees. HA HA HA !!!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:16 amThe authorization was for doing it the only LEGAL way…through the UN Security Council.
Comment by Dick Cheney
That’s fine, but some liberal here asked for the reasons we toppled Saddam, and the reasons were listed in that authorization to use force that Hillary and John Kerry voted for.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:17 amRalph, don’t tell me Saddam shipped his WMD’s to Syria. The same Syria that supported Iran in the 8 year Iran/Iraq War and also the same Syria that attacked Iraq in 1991 alongside US troops.
They suddenly changed their minds and decided to help out Saddam by taking his WMD’s.
These neo-conhole talking points are so lame.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 2:17 amWhy don’t you?
Comment by Ralph
we have proved our points with facts. you have spouted rhetoric and slogans.
even your troll friends have run off.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:18 amLove the graph ,think I’ll paste it all over town !
Comment by freeman
Have fun getting arrested, liberal idiot.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:18 amWe and the Brits had control over the top quarter and the bottom quarter of Iraq. Saddam just had the middle half.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:18 amI will die fighting for the truth.
about how Bush lied
August 1st, 2007 at 2:19 amAbout how Rumsfeld lied’
About how Bush’s family is neo-nazi and has been planning this since WWII
About how the Congress folded
TOok the money
About how the Supreme Court sold out
“Ralph, don’t tell me Saddam shipped his WMD’s to Syria.”
Post the comment number where I said that.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:19 amIt’s better to live on your feet than die on your knees. HA HA HA !!!
Comment by Dick Cheney
I don’t want to die, or submit. Now that you mention it. I like your way better.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:19 amRalph, just beating you to your lame neo-con Bush cult talking points.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 2:20 amwe have proved our points with facts.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
You have? Post the source where the FBI director said that none of the 19 hijackers had links to al qaeda.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:20 amCan’t you comprehend anything?
The authorization Hillary and Kerry voted for said to go through the UN.
We didn’t do that.
I already explained how we had their rooms bugged.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:21 amCheney planned this False Flag for profit and Globalization.
he should be indicted for the premeditated murder of 2,700 + people
he should be lead from the White House in shackles.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:21 am73 died, which I believe is what the paid for media will support and have no compassion for. The Bush and crew, plus the real prez, Cheney, look at numbers. They could care less. It’s not their families’ blood. With Mr. M taking control of all media, history will view them as God’s gift to the world. Not.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:22 amWe need to make a pact that we will die fighting for the truth
August 1st, 2007 at 2:22 amWe will be willing to die to prevent the neo-nazi Bushites from taking or controlling power.
We need to make a pact that we will give our lives to stopping the nazi traitors from destroying the United States
Ralph, just beating you to your lame neo-con Bush cult talking points.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
Hillary and Kerry both said Saddam posessed WMD. What happened?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:22 amhe should be indicted for the premeditated murder of 2,700 + people
he should be lead from the White House in shackles.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
Pelosi has taken impeachment off the table.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:23 am500 tons? That’s a million pounds!!!
You believed that shite?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:23 amThe authorization Hillary and Kerry voted for said to go through the UN.
We didn’t do that.
Comment by Dick Cheney
We wasted almost a year dicking around with the UN.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:23 amWhose running this country? Me or Pelosi?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:23 amPelosi wants to run it, but she is a sick joke.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:25 amTHe nazi controllers are moving into our surburban communities as we speak. As homes fall into default, the government buys them up to use them as observation points. It will require every suburban neighborhood to identify the spies and let them know they are know and not wanted.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:25 amWe wasted almost a year dicking around with the UN.
Comment by Ralph — August 1, 2007 @ 2:23 am
You’re right. I don’t like any of that legal stuff, either. Just f*^#ing do it!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:25 amFOrget Pelosi, she sold out long ago
August 1st, 2007 at 2:26 amGoodnight Brassmask.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:26 amNight Ralph.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:26 amWhy, oil was only $18 a barrel under Clinton. We made it $77!!!
Oil reserves of big 5 oil corps now worth $2.3 TRILLION!!!
Condi’s got a tanker named after her.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:27 amYou boys believe Judicial Watch is part of the Lefties? They got my Iraqi oil map.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:31 amGoodbye America
Thinkprogress has deleted my posts about the true nature of the fascist neo-nazi government. So Goodbye and goodluck
True open discussion is no longer possible.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:32 amI couldn’t go to Nam. I had other “priorities”.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:32 amYou mean like getting those 2 DUIs Mr. Cheney?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:35 amI think we ran the trolls off. Victory is ours! now I gotta go soak my feet.
Good night guys. it’s been fun.
I’m with you buckets… our only hope is Patric fitzgerald and indictements.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:37 amHope they don’t find what I told Alberto to do!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:51 amI wonder if Gerald Fitzpatrick?
HaHaHa
August 1st, 2007 at 2:52 amNor would we have won the American Revolution if George Bush, Dick Cheney and/or Donald Rumsfeld had been leading America’s Continental Army.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:13 amDoesn’t anyone ever remember this: the cycle of attacks and casualties goes down ever summer and every winter. Graph it out month by month and you’ll see. The drop in July is expected and consistant with past summers.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:04 amFiaz has provided a poor, over complicated and incomplete analysis. Even the local news compares current “performance” to the same period a year ago.
Unfortunately, since we now have more than four years worth of monthly data a more meaningful comparision would simply be the figures from each of the previous Julys.
7/07 – 78
7/06 – 43
7/05 – 54
7/04 – 54
7/03 – 48
Now if you wanted to do a little math, one can see that US troop deaths for July 07 are 44.9% above the same period a year ago.
Faiz – That is the proper perspective and should have been your report’s headline!
August 1st, 2007 at 7:52 am290. Don’t confuse these neocons troll ignoramuses with facts. facts are biased towards the Left and freedom.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:59 amNote to democrats, you are in denial about the surge and progression in Iraq. A decrease in the number of soldiers killed is a very significant success.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:03 amYou neglect to mention that July 2007 was the highest July death toll for American soldiers since the war began. In July in Iraq, temperatures reach about 120, so just about all activity — including that of the insurgents — comes to a halt. That it was the highest July death toll in five years should be the headline.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:12 amWait a minute. General Betrayus told us the surge hadn’t started yet on July 4. Bush told us on July 10 that the surge had just started. Are the righties trying to tell us that the surge has been successful in just 3 weeks? Do they think we’re that stupid? Don’t answer that.
Any decrease in deaths is good news, although most of us would say any number is too many. But it’s folly for anyone to say a lower death tally in July is proof of anything. Seasonally, July has tallied the lowest death numbers for 5 years, as anyone who looks at icasualties can see with just a glance.
Anyone who thinks 73 American deaths is a “success” needs to do some serious re-thinking.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:12 am292, 73 American deaths is an INCREASE over previous Julys, not a decrease. Why are you so eager to see young Americans killed? is that a standard Republican trait, this bloodthirstiness? How does is square with your personal cowardice and lack of courage?
August 1st, 2007 at 8:21 am292 – “Note to democrats, you are in denial about the surge and progression in Iraq. A decrease in the number of soldiers killed is a very significant success.” Comment by Daryll — August 1, 2007 @ 8:03 am
Note to Daryll: Drink some coffee, and actually READ the statistics. There has been an INCREASE, not a decrease.
Therefore, your statement has proven that there has been no success.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:27 amAs of today, we can revise the July number to 78, according to icasualties. Feel better now, righties?
August 1st, 2007 at 8:30 am#297 – “As of today, we can revise the July number to 78, according to icasualties. Feel better now, righties?” Comment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 8:30 am
They probably do feel better. It’s much better that OTHERS do the fighting and dying for their failed policies.
And don’t expect these same people to give a single thought to the treatment and welfare of the troops after they return from conflict, because the neo-cons will continue to underfund all VA services in order to give more money to big-business and no-bid federal government contracts.
Neo-cons (and their mindless followers) have proven they are traitors to the to US and our Constitution.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:36 amDeadliest July Yet for US Troops;
August 1st, 2007 at 8:53 am23% Rise in Iraqi Deaths in July;
Would have been nice to receive an acknowledgement when your story is built off of mine (just a link would have been fine).
August 1st, 2007 at 9:09 amhttp://www.jjraymond.com/oddsandends/2007/deathsurge.html
Tobey Tall:
Which was the “deadliest” July for US Troops during the Civil War, WWII, Korea, even Vietnam? Let’s get a little historical perspective.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:13 amJake, I am sure that the likes of you would only be concerned about Confederate deaths in the civil war.
-GSD
Also, if you were going to use that lame argument, the Iraq clusterf*ck has run on longer than WWII so actually there wouldn’t be any deaths because the war would be over by now.
George W. Bush has used the US military in such an incompetent way that they are struggling with a “handful of dead enders”.
Heckuva job.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:20 amWhich was the “deadliest†July for US Troops during the Civil War, WWII, Korea, even Vietnam? Let’s get a little historical perspective.
Comment by Jake D. — August 1, 2007 @ 9:13 am
This is a meaningless, dishonest comparison. IGNORE IT!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:21 amGood job ignoring irrelevant posters.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:22 amAlso, look at all the July’s throughout the war. July is traditionally a low death month. The highest since ‘07 was 65 deaths.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:23 amGo here: http://icasualties.org/oif/US_chart.aspx
Look at all the July’s and tell me we’re making progress.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:25 amI think Yogi Berra said, “Statistics is for losers”. Make that, “Statistics is for the dead.”.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:44 amLet’s not forget the 353 deaths in Afgan. that brings the total to 4,006!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:46 amI very seriously doubt that we are being told the truth about how many actual servicemen/women have been killed!
A decrease in the number of soldiers killed is a very significant success.
Comment by TeenyTinyDaryll — August 1, 2007 @ 8:03 am
Daryll, why do you celebrate the deaths of real American heroes?
What synapses in your brain is not quite firing correctly for you to applaud our troop’s demise?
What is your number limitations to not celebrate?
100?200?1000?
Mine would be ZERO
Man, anyone who finds success in the death of our troops makes me utterly sick.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:49 amThere is a reason they are called “chickenhawks”, and proof is no nearer here then our own pseudo (c)hristian Daryll, protecting our homeland from the evil Al Qaeda Viruses that may infiltrate our computer systems
I very seriously doubt that we are being told the truth about how many actual servicemen/women have been killed!
Comment by Red Sox Sam — August 1, 2007 @ 9:46 am
Wondered about that myself.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:51 amRed Sox Sam sez:
This administration has lied to us about everything to date. Why should we expect the truth on this topic?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:58 amExcept that he found the name on google and it also showed the number in which he died.
Comment by Ralph — August 1, 2007 @ 1:50 am
Source?
Comment by Ralph — August 1, 2007 @ 1:40 am
Take your own advice, a$$hole.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:09 amGoodbye America
Thinkprogress has deleted my posts about the true nature of the fascist neo-nazi government. So Goodbye and goodluck
True open discussion is no longer possible.
Comment by bucketsofbloodforbucketsofoil — August 1, 2007 @ 2:32 am
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Oh, B.o.b. O. B.o.o.,
You are such a kidder!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:09 amOops, I meant “B.o.b. F. B.o.o.”
August 1st, 2007 at 11:09 am#301 – “Let’s get a little historical perspective.” Comment by Jake D. — August 1, 2007 @ 9:13 am
How about a list of other Presidents that told lies that led to wars of occupation, compared to Pres. Bush’s lies and his war of occupation?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:20 amPres. Bush’s lies – Democrat Soldier
————-
What has Bush lied about?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:25 amhis [Bush's] war of occupation – Democrat Soldier
August 1st, 2007 at 11:26 am—–
I think you mean “War on Terror.”
Despite the averages as pointed out, a dip in the number of deaths is certainly better than an increase. However, I would like to see this number drop to zero, ASAP, by withdrawing all our troops. To me, that’s the best solution.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:36 amRe: Post #301 —
Clearly the U. S. troop deaths for July, 2007 of 78 (and sometimes additional numbers come in a day or two later), is the highest total for the month of July yet, but could you please explain the 23% increase figure?
The highest U. S. troop death total for any July in Iraq was 54 (July of 2004 and July of 2005) — 78 so far in July, 2007 would represent an increase of 44% over the previous high.
If we were to compare this year’s July total with the total for July, 2006 of 43, then the increase would be 81%.
To those who are touting the July, 2007 numbers as a measure of success, I know some used car salespersons who’d just love to do business with you.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:44 amExcept that he found the name on google and it also showed the number in which he died.
Comment by Ralph — August 1, 2007
I have been discredited? By whom, you?
Again, I usually dont respond to idiots but the fact that you say that I saw his name on goggle and all that other nonsense, and that I saw what number he was when he died.
No I was the NCO who had to go to Diamondback (that’s the FOB thats across from FOB Marez, where the mess hall was hit on 21 Dec 2004) and identify MY Soldier’s remains, I trained with him everyday for 10 months before we went to Iraq, I and oteres were his as he was ours Brother, and the fact that TP deleted my post means nothing other than the fact that I let you get to me when I should not have.
The truth hurts, and you should be in a sling.
RIP
August 1st, 2007 at 11:53 amSGT Stephen R Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STYRKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
What has Bush lied about?
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 11:25 am
You’re kidding — right? David Corn has helpfully assembled many of Dubya’s lies into a book, and you can read a sampling here: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20031013/corn
Here are a few more — take a special look at lies #6 and #17: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/mar2003/bush-m20.shtml
And more: http://www.bushlies.net/index.html
This is just a short list. Try googling “george w bush lies” and you will get many links.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:19 pmI never see any mention of wounded requiring evacuation, evacuated for medical reasons, or evacuated because of non-combat related injuries. I believe the total in these categories is about 36,000. When added to deaths of about 3,650 this becomes a more signigicant percentage of the troops engaged. The media should pay more attention to the total human cost to the military.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:31 pmThe media should pay more attention to the total human cost to the military.
Comment by Seth — August 1, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
I’ve been wondering about that for a couple of years now. It’s not unlike the way the Bush family manages to keep Prescott out of the limelight, or the family’s net worth hidden, whilst attacking Kerry or Edwards for their money.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:37 pmWhy, if Progressives were in control of the country—there wouldn’t be a single US troop death in Iraq!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pmWith the acquisition of Dresser Industries in 1998, the Kellogg-Brown & Root division (in 2002 renamed to KBR) was formed by merging Halliburton’s Brown & Root (acquired 1962) subsidiary and the M.W. Kellogg division of Dresser (which Dresser had merged with in 1988).
Prescott Bush (W’s grandfather and executive banker of Brown Brothers Harriman–Nazi Germany’s connection to Wall Street) was a director of Dresser Industries, which is now part of Halliburton. His son, George H. W. Bush, worked for Dresser Industries in several positions from 1948-1951.
When Halliburton is mentioned in the media, they might speak of MY connection, but they will never speak of the Bush family and Dresser !!!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pmPerhaps more revelant is to look at same month figures for the war as seasonal factors also come into play.
July 2007 – 78
July 2006 – 43
July 2005 – 54
July 2004 – 54
As you can see, this July has been very substantially higher than any of the previous sweltering July’s.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:04 pmIt shows… CNN and Fox Noise have been oogling over how ‘good’ the surge has been.
Coming only ’slightly’ down from RECORD highs is NOT exactly encouraging.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:49 pmYes, fewer Americans died in Iraq in July than in June. But before we invest too much emotion in that factoid, notice that there are always fewer fatalities in July than in June. Here’s a table of fatalities-per-day for each month of the war:
2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
JAN 1.68 4.10 2.06 2.77
FEB 0.82 2.14 2.07 3.04
MAR 1.68 1.26 1.06 2.65
APR 2.67 4.67 1.73 2.73 3.90
MAY 1.35 2.71 2.84 2.55 4.23
JUN 1.20 1.67 2.77 2.10 3.60
JUL 1.58 1.87 1.87 1.48 2.81
AUG 1.39 2.42 2.74 2.13
SEP 1.10 2.90 1.73 2.57
OCT 1.52 2.19 3.19 3.55
NOV 3.67 4.70 2.87 2.60
DEC 1.55 2.45 2.19 3.71
U.S. fatalities for each month of 2007 were considerably higher than the corresponding month in 2006. In July, they were almost double. In fact, the month-to-month ratio of 2007-to-2006 has been growing steadily since April: 1.43, 1.66, 1.71, 1.89.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:09 pmOops. Sorry about the non-formatting. You should put “NA” for Jan, Feb and Mar 2003 and push those numbers one column to the right.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:11 pmWe might all do well to remember that we are basing our conclusions upon data that has been provided for us by the same U. S. military and Bush Administration who have provided changing stories regarding Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman, as well as a multitude of other critical issues. If anything, the real numbers may actually be even more at odds with the Administration’s rosy pronouncements.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:21 pmWe are losing too many troops each month to a surge that has failed. This surge according to Bush was supposed to give Maliki enough breathing room to make political progress. But instead of making political progress, the Iraqi parliament has gone on vacation while our troops continue to die. Bush must set a date to get all troops out of Iraq in one year. The surge has failed. It is time to bring the troops home.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:39 pm6 more oil stealing occupation nazi storm troopers got blowed up today on the last day of July !!!!
so the count is at 80 for July !!!!
and may go up beyond that if press reports are correct !!!!
a couple of Hummers and an Abrams Tank got all blowed up !!!!
Fight On Iraqi Freedom Fighters !!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
August 1st, 2007 at 11:23 pmAnother record for Iraq –
Since the http://icasualties.org website updated the U. S. military fatalities death toll to 80 for the month of July, 2007, this represents the EIGHTH consecutive month with at least 80 or more deaths. The previous record for consecutive months with 80 or more fatalities — TWO — in April-May of 2004 and October-November of 2005.
The term “surge” was very predictive — of U.S. military fatalities, however, not success.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:58 pmnow take those stats and compare them to roosevelt’s war, truman’s war, and johnson’s war and what do you see? 100s of 1000s of dead under democrats, be we’re the war mongers hahahahahaa what a joke. roosevelt would have jumped up out of his wheel chair and did cartwheels for those stats. how many did we lose on D-day by itself, compare that to this war for some perspective you morons.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:55 amGod, that’s a grim photo of coffins drapped in flags.
Depressing.
What a horrible job that would be – transporting war coffins.
August 2nd, 2007 at 3:39 amYou might also do well to consider whether only the government would notice if someone killed you.
Fkn idiot. Have any idea how big of an arsehole you need to be to suggest something like this ?
It’s like suggesting that if your kid died at school that everyone in his class would pretend nothing happened and purposely not mention it.
That you, as a parent, wouldn’t notice when you never heard from your kid again. That you wouldn’t notice when his name was missing from the graduation rolls.
Do you fkn think that’s going to be any more likely if this happened at a public school arsehole ?
August 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 amThroughout the Iraq War, the month of July always shows a decrease or leveling of the death rate for American troops. That said, the July 2007 total of 78 troops killed is the highest monthly total for a July time period. This is a positive sign of progress? Another “Brownie†moment complements of Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno.
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:28 pmThroughout the Iraq War, the month of July always shows a decrease or leveling of the death rate for American troops. That said, the July 2007 total of 78 troops killed is the highest monthly total for a July time period. This is a positive sign of progress? Another “Brownie†moment compliments of Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno.
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:31 pm