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Cheney: Edelman’s Response To Sen. Clinton Was ‘A Good Letter’

Earlier this month, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) received a letter from Under Secretary of Defense Eric Edelman, who told her that her request for briefings from the Pentagon on the administration’s redeployment plans from Iraq was inappropriate:

Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq, much as we are perceived to have done in Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia. … [S]uch talk understandably unnerves the very same Iraqi allies we are asking to assume enormous personal risks.

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates then wrote an apology letter to Clinton, stating, “I truly regret that this important discussion went astray and I also regret any misunderstanding of intention. … I emphatically assure you that [the Defense Department does] not claim, suggest, or otherwise believe that congressional oversight emboldens our enemies, nor do we question anyone’s motives in this regard.”

Today, CNN aired a preview of Larry King’s interview tonight with the Vice President, in which Cheney contradicts his Secretary of Defense and states that he agrees with Edelman. “I agreed with the letter Eric Edelman wrote. I thought it was a good letter,” said Cheney. Watch it:

[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/cheney_clinton_good_letter.320.240.flv]

Perhaps not surprisingly, Edelman has close ties to Cheney. He served under Cheney, then Secretary of Defense, in the first Bush administration. At that time, Cheney set up a “shop” to “think about American foreign policy after the Cold War, at the grand strategic level.” The project also included Paul Wolfowitz and Scooter Libby. From 2001-2003, Edelman served as a national security adviser to Cheney.

Digg It!

Transcript:

KING: A member of the Department of Defense sent Hillary Clinton a letter, saying she should not criticize, because it helps the enemy. Do you agree with that letter?

CHENEY: Didn’t say she should not criticize. She was demanding the plans for withdrawal from Iraq.

KING: Do you agree with that letter?

CHENEY: I agreed with the letter Eric Edelman wrote. I thought it was a good letter.

KING: So you should not call for the plans for withdrawal?

CHENEY: No, there’s an important principle here, Larry, and that is — and a debate over what our policy ought to be is perfectly legitimate. What we don’t do is we don’t get into the business of sharing operational plans — we never have — with the Congress. And to get into that business would be — it would be for example, like saying during the course of Desert Storm we deployed Marines off the coast of Kuwait. We never planned to put those Marines ashore at Kuwait, but the Iraqis didn’t know that. So they put five or six divisions down there to block that. We wouldn’t release that kind of information or discuss that kind of information in advance of the operation.

When you get into the business of talking about operational planning by the Department of Defense, you don’t share that as a general proposition until you’re ready to actually go out and execute those orders, and then you might share it with the Congress at that point. But to get into the business now, where we’ve got all these contingencies, we always have got a lot of contingencies, where we’re going to start shedding those to respond to the political charges, such as those that Senator Clinton made, I think would be unwise.



285 Responses to “Cheney: Edelman’s Response To Sen. Clinton Was ‘A Good Letter’”

  1. gummitch says:

    Shorter Cheney: “F&ck you, America.”

    Edelman was just following the Cheney royal lead: “Anyone who questions our brilliance is a traitor.”


  2. Ken says:

    Gee, I guess 70% of America is also reinforcing enemy agenda then?

    When will Cheney realize he is only representing himself and a dozen people and not America?


  3. Menehune says:

    That hissing sound you hear is Cheney pissing on the last flame of our democracy.


  4. leftcoast says:

    In a bookstore near you, someday: “Cheney in Chains”, or “IF, I Did It, I Don’t Remember”.


  5. Jackie says:

    Cheney is the President of the United States and under his rule the American people have no rights. Elected Officials are to do as their told and don’t ask questions. Look at the mess this country is in now thanks to Cheney’s law. Cheney got a good lap dog in Gonzales. He does what Cheney tells him to do that’s why he was smiling at Specter during the hearing. Gonzo knew Cheney would never allow him to lose his job. Cheney has invaded the US Government and we will all fall. The Middle East will become stronger and the United States will be called the liars of the World. Even the UK will be leaving Iraq and Cheney knows it.


  6. hellinabucket says:

    Did you expect anything less from the Dark Lord. Sad that he doesn’t acknowledge Gates’ apology. He’s also wrong in stating operational plans aren’t discussed with Congress. They are all the time. There are appropriation committees held for all sorts of operations.


  7. RUCerious says:

    Damn it Gates, how dare you rebuke Ed without Cheney’s approval!
    Don’t you know how this shit works yet?
    Get with the program, dirtbag, or you’ll be back on another meaningless Iraq panel damn soon!


  8. hellinabucket says:

    #2. When will we Americans stand up in numbers too large to ignore that this administration is in the last throes and need to be thrown out.


  9. Ashen Shard says:

    Well, Cheney does not have to worry about telling the truth since his impeachment is quite unlikely. I wonder if he has the same kind of moment with Larry King as he did with Blitzer … probably not since CNN likely decided not to risk angering Cobblepot again.


  10. RUCerious says:

    OK, let’s do an informal poll.

    Richard Bruce Cheney, Man – or – Monster? (If monster, which one fits best??)


  11. dim wit says:

    There goes that “emboldening” again. What is it with this “emboldening?” Also, does anyone realistically think there is a Al Qaeda office where someone reads the letters Hillary Clinton sends to Robert Gates?


  12. SGT Higgins says:

    I would agree that the letter Hillary wrote was fine. I don’t think that demanding a plan for withdrawal was bad in and of itself, but that she did it in such a public way, well…she couldn’t have really expected the Pentagon to provide her with any details under such circumstances.
    She’s not so stupid that she wouldn’t have realized that, so what was her motivation? To simply point out that there was no plan for redeployment. It seemed like a very political move on her part, not genuine concern for the troops.


  13. Robert M. says:

    The reason cheney liked edelman’s letter is that he’s the one who wrote it.

    Anytime a federal agency gets a letter from someone in Congress, cheney gets a copy. This is an SOP cheney established as soon as he took control of the federal government in 2000.

    When cheney received his fax copy of Clinton’s letter, he called edelman and then faxed the canned response rebuking the initial inquirer for questioning cheney’s foreign policy. And that’s the letter edelman sent back to Clinton that started the spat between them.


  14. dim wit says:

    Destestable Snowman


  15. AlphaLiberal says:

    Thinkprogress, please stop promoting CNN, the network of Glenn Beck and, now, Laura Ingraham. CNN is going down the tubes and we should,a t the least, not give them credibility. If they want to ape Fox, then give them the Fox treatment.


  16. P O'Neill says:

    Full WH transcript.


  17. SGT Higgins says:

    Man – or – Monster? (If monster, which one fits best??)

    Comment by RUCerious

    Both. Like Lon Chaney. Man, but really creepy, you know. The kind of man that gives kids nightmares if they stay up late to watch the late, late movie…or news.


  18. Egreggious, Esq. says:

    Also, does anyone realistically think there is a Al Qaeda office where someone reads the letters Hillary Clinton sends to Robert Gates?

    Comment by dim wit — July 31, 2007 @ 5:08 pm

    It’s right next to my office here in the cave, where we monitor TP.


  19. leftcoast says:

    Osama,” Did you see this letter from Eldeman to Hillary? And now, Cheney says Hillary emboldens us. I was embolden the day Bush won again”.


  20. Fools on the Hill says:

    I turned Cheney off a long time ago. He’s a lunatic.


  21. WaltTheMan says:

    Why is Cheney portrayed as Darth? He looks more like Jaba the Hut.


  22. Wayne says:

    Man – or – Monster? (If monster, which one fits best??)
    Comment by RUCerious

    Before or after his morning cup of puppy blood?


  23. George says:

    The heat must be on if Dicko is coming out of the woodwork.


  24. celtic cynic says:

    Ah, yes – the Good Letter written by the Good Man for the Good Cause full of Good Lies.
    I can hardly wait for the hardball questions tonight and in the future. Shame that mr. king and the rest of his ilk has no guts, no balls, no morals, no scruples, no responsibility other than promotion of whatever they’re paid to overlook, obfuscate, deny and glorify.


  25. RUCerious says:

    #17 ~ OK, but which Lon Cheney? Senior was the original Phantom of the Opera, and Jr. was the Wolfman


  26. upside00 says:

    I turned Cheney off a long time ago. He’s a lunatic.

    Comment by Fools on the Hill

    Be careful there! He is the president of the US…. AND he is drunk and has a loaded shotgun AND a man-sized safe in his oval office!


  27. Eric's Brain says:

    Cheney: “Larry, we are living in Military dictatorship, and I’m in control. Please stop worrying about things, and just go on with your daily lives”

    So, Cheney is the only one in the “Congress” who deserves to know operational details of Executive Branch programs? There’s just got to be more to this then they are letting on.


  28. RUCerious says:

    Walt da Man, watch your ass or you’ll have every Hutt this side of Orion’s belt putting a bounty on your ass!


  29. Egreggious, Esq. says:

    Unique Creature.


  30. Frank J says:

    Wrong Vice President Cheney! I would call it an excellent letter.


  31. missmolly says:

    “Congressional oversight emboldens the enemy” = “Congressional oversight is d*mned inconvenient to a dicktator”


  32. Egreggious, Esq. says:

    The Constitution emboldens the enemy.


  33. OutSourced says:

    And why is it relevant for us to listen to a constitutional nullity like Mr. Cheney, when the topic is the president’s defense policiy, as articulated by his SecDef, and misinterpreted by one of his underlings? A crude misinterpretation that the SecDef has since apologized for.

    As Mr. Fourth Estate should know, because he hides at one end of PA Ave when he’s wanted at the other, if Prezelnit wants money for his Defense Dept, it’s usually good practice to play well with the boys and girls on the Defense Appropriations Committees.


  34. dim wit says:

    “What we don’t do is we don’t get into the business of sharing operational plans — we never have — with the Congress.”
    Isn’t Cheney, per Cheney, a member of Congress?


  35. NoMoreBush says:

    Irretrievably arrogant a$$. This bastard DOES NOT represent the US and the large majority of its citizens.


  36. Philonous says:

    Wrong Vice President Cheney! I would call it an excellent letter.

    Comment by Frank J — July 31, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
    ———————
    Cheney has higher standards than you.

    Did the letter tell Hillary, literally, to “go f*ck herself”?

    I thought not.


  37. leftcoast says:

    The only thing that emboldens enemies of America are those who would desire to see us let our leaders chip away at the Constitution.


  38. Zooey says:

    The only thing that emboldens enemies of America are those who would desire to see us let our leaders chip away at the Constitution.
    Comment by leftcoast — July 31, 2007 @ 5:25 pm

    Well said, leftcoast.


  39. The Dogfather says:

    I think Cheney is in his last throes. Or at least Larry King is…


  40. leftcoast says:

    Osama has been winning the battle against America the day Bush came into office, and he continues as we permit cheney and bush to rule. It is their manner of ruling America that fits into his plan.


  41. SGT Higgins says:

    OK, but which Lon Cheney? Senior was the original Phantom of the Opera, and Jr. was the Wolfman

    Comment by RUCerious

    Tough call…I’d have to go with Sr., though. He was creepier by far than Jr.


  42. LibTeenie says:

    Osama has been winning the battle against America the day Bush came into office,

    He seemed to do pretty well with the previous administration also, unless you believe that sitting on his thumb was a good thing for Clinton to do when dealing with Bin Laden(D-SA).

    Waddya say, should we have a solidarity march to condemn thumb sitting?


  43. VotronIsASockPuppet says:

    To simply point out that there was no plan for redeployment. It seemed like a very political move on her part, not genuine concern for the troops. Comment by SGT Higgins — July 31, 2007 @ 5:09 pm

    Yeah, we liberals have on concern for the troops! That’s why we want them home and to stop dying! You’re not the brightest bulb, are you?


  44. Scooty Libber says:

    King and Che-ney-ney both Suk.


  45. Alice Baker says:

    Hello everyone!


  46. freeman says:

    If the vice president is the chainee,the only question left to ask is, who will be the chainer .
    My fear is that the rest of the government isn’t up to the responsibility and that leaves the final responsibility ,as Jefferson said ,in the hands of THE PEOPLE.
    TREASON AND WAR CRIMES ENOUGH TO GO AROUND !but no blow job !
    SHAME !


  47. SGT Higgins says:

    Yeah, we liberals have on concern for the troops! That’s why we want them home and to stop dying! You’re not the brightest bulb, are you?

    Comment by VotronIsASockPuppet

    Liberal….Troll….how many voices ARE there in your head?
    I’d be willing to bet that the ‘troll’ voices are the loudest, huh?


  48. the fly-man/W aint Washington says:

    CNN, ass kissers beyond. Larry King is to journalism like Richard Petty is to safe driving.


  49. LibTeenie says:

    Irretrievably arrogant a$$. This bastard DOES NOT represent the US and the large majority of its citizens.

    I guess he really does have something in common with the DFL.

    Lets march to protest this.


  50. leftcoast says:

    #42 George Bush was President at the time of the 9/11 attacks, and it was George Bush who ignored multiple warnings, including warnings from Sandy Berger, Richard Clarke and others in the Clinton administration. Trying to blame the Clinton administration doesn’t change this fact.


  51. Egreggious, Esq. says:

    Hi, Alice! You’re looking very nice today.


  52. Menehune says:

    F is also a good letter, as is U.


  53. LibTeenie says:

    and that leaves the final responsibility ,as Jefferson said ,in the hands of THE PEOPLE.

    Im sure youll get around to that just as soon as you get high score on Halo 2â„¢ and take a quick nap. Revolution can be hard work, ya know.


  54. Alice Baker says:

    Its nice that someone is willing to say hi. Thankyou but I dont know you, do I?


  55. Jim says:

    #11: There goes that “emboldening” again. What is it with this “emboldening?” Also, does anyone realistically think there is a Al Qaeda office where someone reads the letters Hillary Clinton sends to Robert Gates?

    Not only that, but who thinks that al Qaeda is not currently emboldened? How many truck bombs will they have to set off before the administration says, “OK, it appears that al Qaeda is currently quite bold”?


  56. Jim says:

    #51: F is also a good letter, as is U.

    Also, “C.”


  57. Egreggious, Esq. says:

    Alice, I’m the official greeter here at TP. Come in, make yourself comfortable.


  58. Zooey says:

    Hi, Alice! You’re looking very nice today.
    Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — July 31, 2007 @ 5:40 pm

    I bet Alice has a sister….


  59. Eater of the Dead says:

    Im sure youll get around to that just as soon as you get high score on Halo 2â„¢ and take a quick nap. Revolution can be hard work, ya know.

    Hehehehehehehe! Not to mention he will have to beg his capitalist parents to borrow their Volvo stationwagon.

    “But Moooooommmmm…I have to rise up and take the nation back and I need the CAR! DUH!”


  60. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    Alice, I’m the official greeter here at TP. Come in, make yourself comfortable.

    Comment by Egreggious, Esq.

    yet another title, I see.


  61. Egreggious, Esq. says:

    Alice, would your sister like to join us as well?


  62. Tobey Tall says:

    BAGHDAD, Jul 31 (IPS) – Many Iraqis believe the dramatic escalation in U.S. military use of air power is a sign of defeat for the occupation forces on the ground.

    http://www.dahrjamailiraq.com/ hard_news/ archives/ iraq/ 000619.php#more

    SOUNDS LIKE bush is preparing balad air base FOR FUTURE ATTACKS ON IRAN


  63. SGT Higgins says:

    I bet Alice has a sister….

    Comment by Zooey

    *sigh*
    (off to the corner again)


  64. Alice Baker says:

    Thankyou. What is the topic today?


  65. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Don’t be shy, Alice. There are no child molesters here. However, if that’s what you’re looking for, you might try RedState.org.


  66. gummitch says:

    Tough call…I’d have to go with Sr., though. He was creepier by far than Jr.

    Comment by SGT Higgins

    Pfft. Lon Chaney, Sr was a real actor and an incredible master of disguise. Lon Chaney, Jr was a hack. A likeable enough hack, and his Wolfman was always fun, but the apple fell a long way from the tree with those two.


  67. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Currently we are discussing the relative merits of Lon Chaney, Sr., and Lon Chaney, Jr. Would you like to express an opinion?


  68. LibTeenie says:

    BAGHDAD, Jul 31 (IPS) – Many Iraqis believe the dramatic escalation in U.S. military use of air power is a sign of defeat for the occupation forces on the ground.

    Yah, from an ‘independant’ journalist who has spent a grand total of EIGHT months in Iraq. Wow, eight whole months…lets use this guy as our go-to source.

    Really, you need to do better. How about we organize a solidarity march to protest bad news sources?


  69. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    but the apple fell a long way from the tree with those two.

    Comment by gummitch

    Martin and Charley Sheen? another fine example.


  70. VotronIsASockPuppet says:

    Liberal….Troll….how many voices ARE there in your head?
    I’d be willing to bet that the ‘troll’ voices are the loudest, huh?
    Comment by SGT Higgins — July 31, 2007 @ 5:39 pm

    Like I said – you aren’t the brightest bulb, are you?

    Your the troll here, not me.

    As for the troll voices in your head, see previous posts on my advice that you seek a good mental health counselor to deal with the trauma that has clearly impaired your reason.


  71. RUCerious says:

    Alice, welcome, and don’t be afraid of the wierdness here on TP.
    Stay clear of the troll traps and have some fun!


  72. Alice Baker says:

    Why on earth would you discuss Lon Chaney? How much is there to actually discuss other than his old movies?


  73. SGT Higgins says:

    How about we organize a solidarity march to protest bad news sources?

    Comment by LibTeenie

    What is it with youand marching? Sheesh, I’m in the Army and I don’t march as much as you do.

    Or do you just SPEAK of marching?


  74. gummitch says:

    #

    Why on earth would you discuss Lon Chaney? How much is there to actually discuss other than his old movies?

    Comment by Alice Baker

    That would be a longer discussion than his new movies.


  75. Alice Baker says:

    How do you get other posts in italics?


  76. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    I think Alice has a good point. You are going to fit in here very well.


  77. Alice Baker says:

    Very funny, I suppose thats true, he has been dead for a while, hasnt he?


  78. Zooey says:

    *sigh*
    (off to the corner again)
    Comment by SGT Higgins — July 31, 2007 @ 5:45 pm

    I am merely troll spotting, Sarge. :)

    But if you think you should be in the corner, then off you go!

    Heh.


  79. SGT Higgins says:

    Alice, welcome, —— indeed

    and don’t be afraid of the wierdness here on TP. ——that’s beginning to be part of it’s charm….like lon chaney!

    Stay clear of the troll traps and have some fun! —— Yeah, I’ve got a bit of troll still on me. (can you get it off? thanks…that’s gonna stain, damn)

    Comment by RUCerious


  80. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    How do you get other posts in italics?

    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 5:51 pm

    You’re still too new for that. We’ll tell you later, when we’re sure you’re one of us.


  81. Menehune says:

    #65. Jr. was fantastic as Lenny in “Of Mice and Men”–his was the performance that the Warner Brothers cartoons from the 40s always parodied with the big lummox that wanted hug and hold and squeeze Bugs Bunny. Ironically, considering this thread, Burgess Meredith (Wack! Wack! Wack!) played opposite him as George.


  82. leftcoast says:

    #42

    Yes, there was the usual bureaucratic bumbling, and there were missed opportunities, but the Clinton Administration made numerous efforts over many years to thwart bin Laden and Al Qaeda:

    The CIA created a virtual station to track bin Laden.
    American diplomats pressed Sudan to expel bin Laden.
    State Dept. circulated a dossier that accused bin Laden of financing radical Islamic causes around the world.
    NSA eavesdropped on telephone lines used by Al Qaeda and broke up one Al Qaeda unit as a result.
    Ordered cruise missile strike on Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan.
    The United States disrupted other Al Qaeda cells, and got several Al Qaeda members prosecuted in Egypt.
    President Clinton approved the use of lethal covert force against bin Laden and a dozen of his top lieutenants.
    Four times Clinton authorized the CIA to kill or capture bin Laden.
    The C.I.A. stationed submarines in the Indian Ocean to track bin Laden’s movements in preparation for a cruise missile attack.
    The White House asked the Joint Chiefs of Staff to develop plans for a commando raid to capture or kill bin Laden. The Pentagon balked.
    Clinton administration tried to choke off Al Qaeda’s financial network by threatening states and banks with sanctions if they dealt with the terrorist group.
    In 1999 and 2000, some $255 million of Taliban-controlled assets was blocked in United States accounts.
    Arrested Ahmed Ressam when he tried to enter the United States in Port Angeles, Wash., on Dec. 14, 1999. Ressam had 130 pounds of bomb-making chemicals.
    In March 2000, the FBI, started a series of anti-terrorism seminars with agents who headed the bureau’s 56 field offices, encouraging them to hire more Arabic translators and develop better sources of information.
    The FBI asked for money for a computer system that would allow various field offices to share and analyze information collected by agents–the Republican Congress initially said no.
    In September 2000, an unarmed, unmanned spy plane flew over Afghanistan searching for bin Laden.
    In October 2000, the administration unsuccessfully tried to kill bin Laden.


  83. SGT Higgins says:

    I am merely troll spotting, Sarge. :) —– You do have a keen eye, don’cha?

    But if you think you should be in the corner, then off you go! —-well ok, but this time i’m gone for the rest of the night. So if you see me….you don’t see ME. lol

    Have a great night!

    Comment by Zooey —


  84. Zooey says:

    Hey Alice,

    Where are you from?


  85. LibTeenie says:

    What is it with youand marching? Sheesh, I’m in the Army and I don’t march as much as you do.

    I just happen to enjoy the spectacle of Solidarity Marches, mainly for the people watching…and I get a chance to wear my Rainbow Beret©.

    Now, lets you and I organize a march, Ill plan it and you can lead since you have gobs and gobs of experience in the Cub Scou….er…the “army”.


  86. Tobey Tall says:

  87. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

  88. Zooey says:

    Have a great night!
    Comment by SGT Higgins — July 31, 2007 @ 5:54 pm

    Goodnight, Sarge!


  89. freeman says:

    Enemies foreign and domestic ! Who will protect America , !/3 of the laws passed since 911 violated ,as a result of signing statements ,Extreme violations of basic rights ,The end of Habeas corpus !3/4 of a million dead in a war of choice sold on lies and falsehoods ,by people who wrote pre 911 of their intentions to invade the mid east to control oil !
    billions wasted in no bid contracts to companies that move to the mid east inorder to avoid paying taxes to their country of origin which still pay a sitting VP large stipends .
    Torture ,Secret prisons ,Kidnapping ,Radioactive weapons,Mass murder ,Countless violations of constitutional and international law ,Direct lies on national TV to confuse the American people.Multi billion $ contracts to a private army based just outside washington DC.Secret domestic spying programs which the US congress is totally unaware of !
    But no Blow job !!!!!


  90. SGT Higgins says:

    Ill plan it and you can lead since you have gobs and gobs of experience in the Cub Scou….er…the “army”.

    Comment by LibTeenie

    Damn Zooey,
    Will I ever get to spot ‘em as soon as you do? Is there a trick?
    Or better yet, a manual?


  91. Alice Baker says:

    Where am I from originally or now?

    Why wont somone tell me how to make italics, its easier to reference isnt it?


  92. nully says:

  93. hellinabucket says:

    If Cheney is monster can Bush be Renfield?


  94. SGT Higgins says:

    Night Egreggious, Night Zooey


  95. gummitch says:

    test test

    Comment by Tobey Tall

    Nope. You’re still too tall.


  96. hellinabucket says:

    I just have this picture of GW stomping on bugs and sucking on dead rats.


  97. Zooey says:

    Damn Zooey,
    Will I ever get to spot ‘em as soon as you do? Is there a trick?
    Or better yet, a manual?
    Comment by SGT Higgins — July 31, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

    It in The Woman’s Handbook ™.

    I am bound by the Code to never tell…. :)


  98. gummitch says:

    Alice, look at the row of boxes next to “your comment”


  99. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Why wont somone tell me how to make italics, its easier to reference isnt it?

    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

    Do it like this, without italics. It’s OK.


  100. Komrade Alf says:

    SGT Higgins,
    How dare you attacke Hillary!
    She cares about the troops! How dare you attack our next President.
    She’ll soon be your Commander in Chief.
    Show her respect soldier!


  101. LibTeenie says:

    Multi billion $ contracts to a private army based just outside washington DC.

    Army? You mean what, Blackwater©? ‘Scuse me while I pass this one to my email clan so they can get a good laugh, BRB.


  102. Zooey says:

    Where am I from originally or now?
    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

    Oh what the heck, where are you sitting now?


  103. hellinabucket says:

    The blocks above the comment postings will give you the italics. click once to start, type what you want and then click the italic a 2nd time and you’ve got italics.

    sadly my computer doesn’t oblige so no visuals


  104. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    Do it like this, without italics. It’s OK.

    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG

    not very helpful for a greeter are you? WalMart would not be happy.


  105. Alice Baker says:

    Oh, so you highlight your words and then press the italics box?


  106. freeman says:

    ANd in all likelyhood by people who were never legitamately elected to public office whom 1/3of the population believe were actually involved in the terrorist attack of 911.


  107. nully null null says:

    Iraq’s parliament went on a one-month hiatus Tuesday afternoon, having not passed any significant legislation. Bush had outlined 4 ‘benchmarks’ last January that the Iraqi government needed to meet by June. These were passage of a petroleum law, passage of a law specifying distribution of the petroleum revenues, revisions of debaathification rules [which harm Sunni Arabs], and progress on Sunni-Shiite reconciliation. Nothing has been accomplished on any of these fronts.


  108. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Please, guys, you’re pushing her too hard and too fast. Let’s just take one thing at a time.


  109. Zooey says:

    Oh, so you highlight your words and then press the italics box?
    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:00 pm

    Alice,

    What do you think of our topic? Got anything on that, or are we just having a formatting lesson?

    That Cheney, he’s a hottie, ain’t he?


  110. Candyce says:

    Just in case I haven’t mentioned it yet today, Tucker is a little punk.


  111. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    gotta go play with this dog. He is so demanding. I should beat him more often.


  112. Alice Baker says:

    Where am I sitting? I hope your making a light joke because you seem friendly. Im actually sitting on my back porch trying to drive away a horse fly thats taken a shine to me.


  113. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Alice, forget the formatting for a bit and answer some of Zooey’s questions. We’re not going to judge you on your italics.


  114. Zooey says:

    gotta go play with this dog. He is so demanding. I should beat him more often.
    Comment by Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC — July 31, 2007 @ 6:02 pm

    It’s a great morning workout. :D


  115. Loonie says:

    Cheney thinks Edelman’s letter was good. How very not surprising.


  116. Alice Baker says:

    Im sorry Zooey, Im not sure what exactly I should say other than the man seems unlikeable and stiff. I didnt vote for anyone last election because all the candidates were such pompous jerks.


  117. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Im actually sitting on my back porch trying to drive away a horse fly thats taken a shine to me.

    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:02 pm

    Do you live on a farm?


  118. Alice Baker says:

    Test post

    Did it work?


  119. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    horse fly thats taken a shine to me.

    Comment by Alice Baker

    Yeah, that’s the one. “taken a shine to me”. Where did you get that? “Gone with the Wind”? nice touch


  120. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Alice, you are very clever. Good work.


  121. Zooey says:

    I didnt vote for anyone last election because all the candidates were such pompous jerks.
    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:03 pm

    So you didn’t care enough to get your ass to the voting booth because you’re sensitive, or just stupid?

    Who do you like for president this time?


  122. Candyce says:

    I want to know if Larry King follows up and asks Cheney about Gates’ letter of apology to Hillary. I didn’t want to watch LKL tonight, but now I’ll have to.


  123. Alice Baker says:

    I live on more of a hobby farm though the only thing that lives in the barn are lots of pigeons and far too many cats.


  124. funky p says:

    Multi billion $ contracts to a private army based just outside washington DC.

    Army? You mean what, Blackwater©? ‘Scuse me while I pass this one to my email clan so they can get a good laugh, BRB.

    Comment by LibTeenie — July 31, 2007 @ 5:58 pm

    Supposedly there’s as many as 100,000 mercenaries and support staff in Iraq; Blackwater is chief among them. What?, you think they’re pussies or something?
    Remember, every dictator needs a paramilitary army.


  125. freeman says:

    Man and stiff are both unlikey descriptions of our new dictator !


  126. dim wit says:

    Repubilicans Suck.
    Good Night all!


  127. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    What do you think of the Constitution, Alice?


  128. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Goodnight, dim!


  129. LibTeenie says:

    Supposedly there’s as many as 100,000 mercenaries and support staff in Iraq; Blackwater is chief among them.

    They are the “army”? Theyre contractors you witless fool, answerable to their clients, not the U.S. government.


  130. Philonous says:

    So you didn’t care enough to get your ass to the voting booth because you’re sensitive, or just stupid?

    Or she could be Nihilistic and Free!!!


    When I say “Nihilisitic,” I refer to the philosophical doctrine that rejects traditional values and authority. However, I do not necessarily imply that she advocates violent revolution.


  131. Alice Baker says:

    Strange question, Im not sure what you mean about the Constitution. Would you elaborate for me?


  132. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    So you didn’t care enough to get your ass to the voting booth because you’re sensitive, or just stupid?

    Who do you like for president this time?

    Comment by Zooey

    SGT. would be proud. You can spot em a mile off. The kicker for me was the “taken a shine to me”. How bout you?


  133. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    First, Alice, are you familiar with the Constitution?


  134. Zooey says:

    Strange question, Im not sure what you mean about the Constitution. Would you elaborate for me?
    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:10 pm

    Never heard of it, huh?

    Do you have running water on your “farm,” Alice? Did you marry your cousin? Could you run faster than your brother?


  135. LibTeenie says:

    I would like to work for Blackwater, though Im not sure I could fit into their shirts.


  136. Philonous says:

    What do you think of the Constitution, Alice?

    You might be barking up the wrong tree.


  137. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Alice might be a subscriber to politeia.


  138. freeman says:

    Blackwater buy it at your local bookstore , it’s on the NY times bestseller list and besides forming a 1 to 3 ratio with our guys in Iraq ,has already policed ,guns drawn, a city in the US because our own forces were in dispose and as colin powell puts it ,broken !
    A private army,better equipt then our own ,with a budget of billions of dollars based outside washington DC doesn’t worry teen weenie though so I quess it all right !


  139. Alice Baker says:

    Familiar in a passing fashion only, Im no expert.


  140. Zooey says:

    How bout you?
    Comment by Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC — July 31, 2007 @ 6:11

    First comment…. “Hello everyone!”


  141. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    Alice might be a subscriber to politeia.

    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG

    An Alice by any other name, still smells like mister pee


  142. o'really says:

    K is also a well established letter.


  143. Zooey says:

    Alice might be a subscriber to politeia.
    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG — July 31, 2007 @ 6:12 pm

    I’m certain of it.


  144. LibTeenie says:

    Youre right, it doesnt bother me. I dont sign up for the hysterical conspiracies that libs seem so fond of.

    Are you sure Blackwater isnt running the Secret American Gulag Systemâ„¢?


  145. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    From what you know of the Constitution, would you say you…

    1) Strongly approve
    2) Slightly approve
    3) Slightly disapprove
    4) Strongly disapprove
    5) None of the above


  146. Zooey says:

    K is also a well established letter.
    Comment by o’really — July 31, 2007 @ 6:14 pm

    What’s that you’re spelling…? :-D


  147. Alice Baker says:

    Considering what it is, I would have to choose #1.


  148. Mr. Provost says:

    For some reason, I’m only able to type one sentence at a time…..


  149. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Considering what it is, I would have to choose #1.

    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:16 pm

    Good girl.

    You know what that makes you?

    A liberal!

    You’ll be getting your card in the mail within the week.


  150. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    1) Strongly approve
    2) Slightly approve
    3) Slightly disapprove
    4) Strongly disapprove
    5) None of the above

    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG

    approve of what?

    1) RESTORING IT
    2) DISMANTLING IT
    3) TOURCHING IT
    4) FEEDING CHENEY TACO WITH IT
    5) ROLLING IT UP AN SWATTING FREDO ON THE NOSE WITH IT?


  151. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    For some reason, I’m only able to type one sentence at a time…..

    Comment by Mr. Provost — July 31, 2007 @ 6:17 pm

    Use a second keyboard.


  152. Zooey says:

    You know what that makes you?
    A liberal!
    You’ll be getting your card in the mail within the week.
    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG — July 31, 2007 @ 6:17 pm

    Make sure you include a copy of The Liberal Agenda ™.


  153. Alice Baker says:

    Are any of you from Portland, Oregon?


  154. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Alice is from Medford, aren’t you?


  155. freeman says:

    I quess the fact that the executive branch has instructed the federal government to ignore 1/3 of all the laws passed by congress since 911 is no problem for you either ? Or that you can be arrested on secret evidence and or held without charges by the next democratic president that thinks your undesirable and tried by a kangaroo court is all right too .
    Are you 12 ?


  156. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    BTW, well done, Lee.


  157. Mr. Provost says:

    I meant, Mr. Egreggious, that TP only posts no more than one sentence at a time.


  158. LibTeenie says:

    Im close, Washington state, does that count?


  159. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    Are any of you from Portland, Oregon?

    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:18 pm

    how come when you play these roles, you are always making them female?

    a little game you and your sneaky uncle used to play?


  160. Zooey says:

    Alice,

    I’m having terrible menstrual cramps. What do you do about them?


  161. Mr. Provost says:

    Test——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————


  162. Alice Baker says:

    No actually Im from Brightwood, why?


  163. Mr. Provost says:

  164. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    BTW, well done, Lee.

    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG

    What? What I do now?

    and by the way, now you are giving out memberships to the liberal party? Another Title? Have you no shame?


  165. Zooey says:

    how come when you play these roles, you are always making them female?

    a little game you and your sneaky uncle used to play?

    Comment by Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC — July 31, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

    Female and frickin’ dim.


  166. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG says:

    Alice, just so you know, TP is a little under the weather today. There is no predicting what might show up on the screen.


  167. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    I’m having terrible menstrual cramps. What do you do about them?

    Comment by Zooey — July 31, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

    even pee knows that….. pick a fight with the boyfriend over nothing and sulk for a week with ice cream and the remote control.


  168. LibTeenie says:

    There are kangaroo courts? Do they jump around a lot while in session and go waltzing matilda like in the piktcher shows?

    Lets have a march to celebrate kangaroos, you get to lead it!


  169. gummitch says:

    Are any of you from Portland, Oregon?

    Comment by Alice Baker

    Nope. We’re all from Medford.


  170. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    There are many homosexuals in Portland, Alice. Are you sure you want to talk to somebody from there?


  171. Alice Baker says:

    I have friends in Portland, thats why I asked.


  172. freeman says:

    Perhaps the fact that the feds are busy collecting your personaldata for possible use later ,in complete violation of the US constitution is no problem for our young weenie either ,even if it’s a democrat using that info against you because you didn’t agree with the State .
    Halo 2 ,never heard of it ,does it make murder entertaining ?


  173. Alice Baker says:

    Medford? Are there a lot of gays in Medford?


  174. Zooey says:

    even pee knows that….. pick a fight with the boyfriend over nothing and sulk for a week with ice cream and the remote control.
    Comment by Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC — July 31, 2007 @ 6:23 pm

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm, ice cream.


  175. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC says:

    Alice? Does you mother have a basement with a keyboard and sticky sock in it?


  176. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    I have friends in Portland, thats why I asked.

    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:24 pm

    Homosexual friends? We will send you a gold card.


  177. Zooey says:

    Homosexual friends? We will send you a gold card.
    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG — July 31, 2007 @ 6:25 pm

    Hey, I didn’t get a gold card….


  178. freeman says:

    I’m from Auroville ,India ,I’m just taking the long way home !


  179. Greg Greene says:

    Would it be okay to form a flash mob in the Ellipse, in the shape of … an, er, one-fingered salute, and call that our response to Mr. Cheney? I mean, seriously. What an absolute clown.


  180. gummitch says:

    Homosexual friends? We will send you a gold card.
    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG — July 31, 2007 @ 6:25 pm

    Hey, I didn’t get a gold card….

    Comment by Zooey

    That’s because you’re mean.


  181. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    Hey, I didn’t get a gold card….

    Comment by Zooey — July 31, 2007 @ 6:27 pm

    Clerical error. Actually, I think you may qualify for platinum.


  182. Nachos of Justice says:

    It’s time for Mr. Edelman to RESIGN….to join Hillary Clinton’s campaign.


  183. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC, Egreggious's boss says:

    They took my Gold card away for saying “They took a shine to me”


  184. LibTeenie says:

    Halo 2 ,never heard of it ,does it make murder entertaining ?

    Not really, its just a game, a very popular title. Then again, Im able to separate reality and make-believe, a concept which must be difficult for you to understand.

    Now, why dont you move to Montana, build yourself a nice bunker and stock it up for the coming catastrophe when the Guvmint decides to round everyone up and toss them into work camps.

    Dont forget air freshener, those underground toilets might get putrid after a while.


  185. Zooey says:

    That’s because you’re mean.
    Comment by gummitch — July 31, 2007 @ 6:28 pm

    Take that back or I’ll call you a rude name!


  186. Alice Baker says:

    Are there many homosexuals in Auroville?


  187. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    Hey, Nachos! Good to see you.


  188. Zooey says:

    Clerical error. Actually, I think you may qualify for platinum.
    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG — July 31, 2007 @ 6:28 pm

    Cool. The platinum must be for the meanies. :D


  189. Brother Crump says:

    You guys do realize what “alice baker” stands for, dont you?


  190. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    Are there many homosexuals in Auroville?

    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

    Just a second. I’ll check our official Liberal Demographic Map.


  191. LibTeenie says:

    I know I know! I just didnt want to say anything to these idiots and let the game stop.


  192. Zooey says:

    Are there many homosexuals in Auroville?
    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

    I heard everyone in Brightwood is gay or lesbian. A point of pride, actually.


  193. Probus says:

    Edelman and Cheney are wrong to suggest that a senator can’t perform her Congressional oversight duties and to do so aids the enemy. Cheney and Edelman should remember that we still have checks and balances in this country. They can’t not answers questions about troop withdrawal just because they don’t like the question or the questioner. Our presence in Iraq has made al Qaeda stronger. This terrorist group is back to it original strength since before the 9-11 attacks. Bin Laden is still on the lose. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 despite Cheney’s repeated attempts to tie the two together. This is a reality that both Edelman and Cheney and other neo-cons can’t admit. They can’t admit that their vision of “nation building unilaterally” was so wrong for the country. That their vision and strategy of invading Iraq and “spreading democracy” has made us more unsafe. There are more terrorists in Iraq right now than there were before we invaded it.


  194. Philonous says:

    Mrs. Baker,

    Did KKKarl approve your visit here?

    NO UNAUTHORIZED TROLLING!!!


  195. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC, Egreggious's boss says:

    alice baker is uhmmmmmmmmmm I don’t know…the whole “shine” thing proved to me she must be legit


  196. Nachos of Justice says:

    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG — July 31, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

    Thanks, good friend! Justice is served…with a hot bowl of cheese w/salsa.


  197. Zooey says:

    You guys do realize what “alice baker” stands for, dont you?
    Comment by Brother Crump — July 31, 2007 @ 6:31 pm

    Mr Pee.


  198. Alice Baker says:

    I said I was FROM Brightwood, not living there. You people are so friendly and funny!


  199. Nachos of Justice says:

    Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 6:32 pm

    Karl is eliminating my job to make room for your demanded raise!


  200. Brother Crump says:

    Mr Pee.

    Wrong. Very wrong.


  201. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    My first pages of Goggle brought back nothing incriminating on Alice Baker.


  202. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC, Egreggious's boss says:

    alice baker must be legit because no troll would be that stupid…..or would they?


  203. pete says:

    Hi Z, Eg, and the rest. What a fine new game we have! I’m kinda busy this week but, I think I’ll be up for it once I clear my board. Till then, I’ll stick with my old game.

    Ignorance is easy to cure. Stupidity is, generally, terminal.


  204. LibTeenie says:

    Mr. Brother, they still dont get it.


  205. Nachos of Justice says:

    Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 6:32 pm

    Also, didn’t the dean revoke tenure of ‘The Joker’ a while back? He’s still rummaging here, even without his troll salary!


  206. Zooey says:

    Wrong. Very wrong.
    Comment by Brother Crump — July 31, 2007 @ 6:34 pm

    Well?


  207. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    We have very lousy research resources here at TP. I am not sure what LibTeenie is referring to.


  208. Arroyo says:

    lol…
    No wonder cheney selected himself to be Vice President – who else could do this job?


  209. LibTeenie says:

    Ignorance is easy to cure. Stupidity is, generally, terminal.

    Uh oh, the dead are walking the earth! Someone blow out pete’s brains, its the only way to stop them! (hat tip: George Romero)


  210. Nachos of Justice says:

    Comment by Zooey — July 31, 2007 @ 6:33 pm

    Why does Edelman have to look for a fight? Like my momma used to say, “If you look for trouble, you’re gonna find it.”


  211. pete says:

    alice baker must be legit because no troll would be that stupid…..or would they?

    Comment by Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC, Egreggious’s boss — July 31, 2007 @ 6:34 pm

    And she sure can sing!


  212. LibTeenie says:

    Hehe Mr. Brother, you got em cold. Wait until they figure it out.


  213. gummitch says:

    ALICE BAKER…..(Prison)…..Term used to denote members of the Aryan Brotherhood

    Took some digging.


  214. freeman says:

    TP has been overrun by name jacking and trolls ,TRUTH has fled ,Verily !


  215. Zooey says:

    Comment by Nachos of Justice — July 31, 2007 @ 6:37 pm

    I wasn’t addressing the Edelman issue.


  216. Alice Baker says:

    My name is my name, there is nothing wrong with it and I resent youre attempt to disparage me.


  217. Brother Crump says:

  218. LibTeenie says:

    Wow, that only took forever.


  219. Zooey says:

    Hehe Mr. Brother, you got em cold. Wait until they figure it out.
    Comment by LibTeenie — July 31, 2007 @ 6:38 pm

    Aryan Brotherhood. I take it you’re a member?


  220. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    Took some digging.

    Comment by gummitch — July 31, 2007 @ 6:39 pm

    Membership has been cancelled until Alice gets a new name.


  221. Philonous says:

    Comment by Nachos of Justice — July 31, 2007 @ 6:35 pm

    Do I know you?


  222. LibTeenie says:

    Aryan Brotherhood. I take it you’re a member?

    No, I couldnt bear the thought of all those tattoos, makes it hard to meet people on the beach, ya know?


  223. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    The trolls all knew Alice Baker right away.

    Why would that be?


  224. Zooey says:

    My name is my name, there is nothing wrong with it and I resent youre attempt to disparage me.
    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:39 pm

    I forgot to mention that all of us on TP are illegal immigarnts and minorities.

    F*ck off, Alice.


  225. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC, Egreggious's boss says:

    My name is my name, there is nothing wrong with it and I resent youre attempt to disparage me.

    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:39 pm

    we had you figured out with “they took a SHINE to me” in case you missed it, go back and read.

    And just because someone watches a DVD of OZ doesn’t make them clever in the real world, just in troll land.

    and you never answered my question about the sneaky uncle.


  226. Alice Baker says:

    Any connection to a prison gang is purely coincidental and I resent what you are saying.


  227. Zooey says:

    No, I couldnt bear the thought of all those tattoos, makes it hard to meet people on the beach, ya know?
    Comment by LibTeenie — July 31, 2007 @ 6:42 pm

    so you’re TattooTeenie? What a wimp.


  228. Alice Baker says:

    Not very nice zooey, and to think I thought you were all friendly types.


  229. pete says:

    And their words shall fade for they have no substance. (Well, a little substance abuse perhaps)


  230. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC, Egreggious's boss says:

    No, I couldnt bear the thought of all those tattoos, makes it hard to meet people on the beach, ya know?

    Comment by LibTeenie

    The AB would use you like currency. You try to wear ink they would skin you.


  231. shane says:

    ALICE BAKER…..(Prison)…..Term used to denote members of the Aryan Brotherhood

    Took some digging.

    Comment by gummitch — July 31, 2007 @ 6:39 pm

    Thanks gummitch. Surpising they’re using such an appropriate name, al Cracker is usually more surreptitious.


  232. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    We don’t like your name, Alice.

    You are not welcome here.


  233. freeman says:

    The sheer volume of noise is testimony to the effectivness of the blogosphere ,only the braindead are unaware of the move from democracy to fascism .But the congress has not yet been informed !


  234. Zooey says:

    Any connection to a prison gang is purely coincidental and I resent what you are saying.
    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:42 pm

    That’s interesting, “Alice.” Why didn’t you take offense when I asked you if you married your cousin, or if you could run faster than your brother?

    Troll.


  235. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    Thank you for the information, gummitch.

    I will add it to TP’s research archives.

    Where did I put that archives anyway? Has anyone seen a manila folder laying about?


  236. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC, Egreggious's boss says:

    .But the congress has not yet been informed !

    Comment by freeman

    Congress is bought and paid for by the CFR. where you been? Congress is playing right into the globalization game just like the rest. Ever read the 911 Commission Report? NAFTA? GATT? You think they know nothing about SPP?

    Next question is, now what?


  237. Zooey says:

    No wonder the horse fly “took a shine” to Alice — it recognized a horse’s ass.



  238. Philonous says:

    Mrs. Baker,

    Remember the protocol,

    KKKarl sayz:

    Make up a new name and come back in 10min!!!


  239. pete says:

    Z, your venom is showing, and spot on. “Alice” is still underage and can’t get married till “Uncledaddy” is ready to give her up. I figure she’s about three pounds (or a couple zits) away from that magical day.


  240. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC, Egreggious's boss says:

    Troll.

    Comment by Zooey

    In some circles that would be as compliment.

    Hey Egreggious! I out titled you! Ha!


  241. Alice Baker says:

    Actually Im widowed from a wonderful person, bless their soul.


  242. Lee J. Cobb, Potentate, CEO, BMOC, Egreggious's boss says:

    Actually Im widowed from a wonderful person, bless their soul.

    Comment by Alice Baker

    that would be bless HIS soul. See your command of the english language shows through your little creations.


  243. Zooey says:

    Z, your venom is showing, and spot on. “Alice” is still underage and can’t get married till “Uncledaddy” is ready to give her up. I figure she’s about three pounds (or a couple zits) away from that magical day.
    Comment by pete — July 31, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

    I can’t stand these stupid games. I’m just sorry we let it go on so long.

    F*ck Mr Pee.


  244. BARTLEBEE says:

    Cheney thinks it was a good letter?

    :|

    Can Cheney even read?


  245. Zooey says:

    Actually Im widowed from a wonderful person, bless their soul.
    Comment by Alice Baker — July 31, 2007 @ 6:50 pm

    Can’t remember the sex of your “husband,” huh?

    Get out of here.


  246. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    Why don’t you change your name to Chi-mo, Alice?


  247. Nachos of Justice says:

    Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

    I’m comparable to a battery.

    (-) Battery (+)

    (C) Nachos of Justice (T)


  248. Zooey says:

    Can Cheney even read?
    Comment by BARTLEBEE — July 31, 2007 @ 6:53 pm

    Cheney can “round file.”


  249. Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG says:

    Nachos is cool.


  250. Zooey says:

    Comment by Nachos of Justice — July 31, 2007 @ 6:54 pm

    Just can’t help yourself, can you?


  251. Nachos of Justice says:

    Comment by Zooey — July 31, 2007 @ 6:54 pm

    I’m sorry, Izoo-zoo, but I need an adequate example here, and by my observation you’re laying your own batch of libetroll droppings.

    Please correct me if I’m wrong.


  252. Philonous says:

    Nachos is cool.

    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG — July 31, 2007 @ 6:55 pm

    Agreed.


  253. Zooey says:

    Please correct me if I’m wrong.
    Comment by Nachos of Justice — July 31, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    I’m exposing Mr Pee’s games. But you’re right, I let it go on too long.


  254. pete says:

    As much as I despise expressing views that echo Bushco, we have to fight the war we got. I’ll pitch in when I’m not fully occupied by my own little issues. Remember; we’re older, wiser, bigger and much better looking than any *&$#$ing troll. Well, wiser and better looking anyway.


  255. Philonous says:

    I’m exposing Mr Pee’s games.

    U R?

    I don’t think so!


  256. Zooey says:

    Well, wiser and better looking anyway.
    Comment by pete — July 31, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

    I second that. :)


  257. Egreggious says:

    I don’t like the thought of “Mr. Pee” and “exposed” in the same sentence.


  258. Zooey says:

    I don’t think so!
    Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

    I think so — Sally H.


  259. Egreggious says:

  260. Nachos of Justice says:

    Comment by Egreggious, Esq., TPOG, LCG — July 31, 2007 @ 6:55 pm

    Nachos breeds optimism, CT is out the door, and you, my friend, have got it movin’ on both sides. Good one.

    Nachorama.


  261. VotronIsASockPuppet says:

    U R?
    I don’t think so!
    Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

    That’s more of an admission that you don’t think, than one of your correctness – Mr. Pees on himself..


  262. Philonous says:

    I think so — Sally H.

    Comment by Zooey — July 31, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
    —————————-
    Well, u r wrong.


  263. Zooey says:

    Comment by Nachos of Justice — July 31, 2007 @ 7:01 pm

    Egg is a good egg. :)


  264. Egreggious says:

    Well, u r wrong.

    Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

    Do you know who Alice Baker really was, P?


  265. Zooey says:

    Well, u r wrong.
    Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

    Alice is gone and u r here.

    If it wasn’t you, who was it? You’re the king of the trolls.


  266. Philonous says:

    Do you know who Alice Baker really was, P?

    Comment by Egreggious — July 31, 2007 @ 7:04 pm

    No. But I know it was not me!


  267. Egreggious says:

    It wasn’t Eck, was it?

    He has a feminine side.


  268. Zooey says:

    No. But I know it was not me!
    Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 7:05 pm

    Given all the crap you pull around here, I think you’ll understand if I find that difficult to believe.


  269. VotronIsASockPuppet says:

    Well, u r wrong.
    Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

    Saying it, doesn’t make it so. Anymore than believing you own a unicorn makes it true – delusional boy.


  270. Philonous says:

    Egg,

    I don’t know, but I tried to tell you that it wasn’t me at post #133. Let’s just drop it, I’m trying to stay low key today.


  271. Egreggious says:

    Philonous has been very good today.

    I think he may have a tummy-ache or something.

    Let’s give him a break.


  272. pete says:

    Duty calls.
    I will leave you with the words of Gomer Pyle.

    “You treat me nice, Ill treat you nice. You treat me mean and I’ll ignore ya.”


  273. Egreggious says:

  274. Zooey says:

    Philonous has been very good today.
    I think he may have a tummy-ache or something.
    Let’s give him a break.
    Comment by Egreggious — July 31, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

    I’ll drop it this time. P hasn’t been disruptive otherwise.

    :)


  275. tr says:

    cheney’s net worth and his resume don’t add up. the disconnect suggests a man on the take.


  276. Jeannie See says:

    #13: I don’t believe there ever was a plan for redeployment. Didn’t Bush say in his debates from the beginning that he didn’t believe in rebuilding Nations after wars? (Going on memory here.)


  277. Jeannie See says:

    Well, it was for #13 when I first started typing. Now my comment is directed toward #12.


  278. C.C.Deville says:

    Yeah, but did you see Clinton’s cleavage?
    whooooooweeeeeeee.
    Dat’s my preznut!

    Hey! How can I act like a libtard islamofacialist and then link to a GOP site?
    Votron?


  279. RandyBastard says:

    Today, CNN aired a preview of Larry King’s interview tonight with the Vice President, in which Cheney contradicts his Secretary of Defense and states that he agrees with Edelman.

    Ex-squeeze me????

    HIS SECRETARY OF DEFENSE??????

    Since when does Cheney own the government? I know Bush keeps saying “my government” in his speeches, but I was unaware we had now ceded the entire government to Cheney.


  280. J Lewd says:

    Seeing this guy a free man makes me want to vomit every meal I’ve eaten throughout my life. I will only be truly happy when I read about this shitmonger’s painful, ass-cancered death. On that day, I will call in well to work and spend the entire day drinking and buying shots for anyone sitting next to me at the bar. On that day, freedom will truly ring.


  281. blueseahorse says:

    Of course these …….don’t share anything with Congress…why should they?
    congress is an annoyance to them, much like, “oh, if only they could swat once and for all those pesky little mosquitos., wouldn’t life be so much better?” If only Cheney and Bush were one giant RAID can…Cheney dreams of every night…I knew Bush and Cheney were going to be bad, but they have exceeded my worst nightmares and do so everyday.
    When will Americans stand up and say ENOUGH? until we do, this horror will continue


  282. Devil's Advocate says:

    “I thought it was a good letter”. What more proof do we need that Cheney thinks he is untouchable? He is being deliberately provocative.

    I truly hope that this psychotic dictator gets his comeuppance one day, whatever form it may takes. Cheney is an evil monster.


  283. blueseahorse says:

    Agreed., Devil’s Advocate. Cheney is an evil, evil man. No wonder he and Bush and others are often called “thugs” as, indeed, they are…
    they are called thugs, for a reason — many parallels to the thugs in
    1930s Germany….
    Hannah Arendt was right with the banality of evil….


  284. ron heringhauser says:

    Those criminals in the White House don’t have a plan as far as the Iraq war. Just more of the same lies. The results are destruction of a third world country, with no air force, no navy, no WMD, no ties to Al Queida, close to a million dead men, women and kids. The USA economy with out of control defecits, and our military almost broken; while bush considers going after Iran next. Please help us in 08…support Ron Paul. Bring our troops home now. It was a mistake to go in and its a mistake to stay. Stop this insanity



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