Comments on: VoteVets launches Tillman petition. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:28:20 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-2/#comment-3980988 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:21:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3980988 The question is what does the Bush administration have to hide with respect to the Tillman affair? As they said during the debate on warrantless wiretapping, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got no problem. The question is what does the Bush administration have to hide with respect to the Tillman affair? As they said during the debate on warrantless wiretapping, if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got no problem.

]]> By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3980929 tom baker Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:26:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3980929 signed it. righties lose - again. gotta thank all the trolls, though, for venting their stupid here where it can keep me motivated, "steely" as the marines say. every time i'm pissed at the trolls, i write my congressman and senator, using the very best grammar and etiquette, and urge them along the path to righty-abolishment. thanks, righties - your loserdom is helping we the people save our country from ignorant thugs. signed it.

righties lose – again.

gotta thank all the trolls, though, for venting their stupid here where it can keep me motivated, “steely” as the marines say.

every time i’m pissed at the trolls, i write my congressman and senator, using the very best grammar and etiquette, and urge them along the path to righty-abolishment.

thanks, righties – your loserdom is helping we the people save our country from ignorant thugs.

]]> By: Snead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3980519 Snead Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:45:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3980519 Thanks for posting this. Signed, sealed and (hopefully) delivered. Thanks for posting this. Signed, sealed and (hopefully) delivered.

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3980162 Devil's Advocate Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:19:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3980162 "Executive Privilege", another expression for CBA (Cover Bush's A...). This country is run by freakish dictators (redundant, I know...). “Executive Privilege”, another expression for CBA (Cover Bush’s A…).

This country is run by freakish dictators (redundant, I know…).

]]> By: Quizmos http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979905 Quizmos Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:39:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979905 Executive Privilege? I thought that was supposed to protect the vital national security interests of the United States! The use of this "privilege" does not extend to covering up a suspected murder. I hadn't realized that the President was implicated in this matter, though his invoking of this privilege does seem to suggest he has something to hide. Why in the world would information regarding a friendly fire incident during the fog of war be protected under privilege of the executive office? Is there a precedent for this? Executive Privilege? I thought that was supposed to protect the vital national security interests of the United States! The use of this “privilege” does not extend to covering up a suspected murder. I hadn’t realized that the President was implicated in this matter, though his invoking of this privilege does seem to suggest he has something to hide. Why in the world would information regarding a friendly fire incident during the fog of war be protected under privilege of the executive office? Is there a precedent for this?

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979618 The Republic of Stupidity Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:08:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979618 I do not know if the UN can stop the genocide in Sudan. If they can, perhaps they should also be invited into Iraq. Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — July 31, 2007 @ 7:42 pm Um... I think they refused to go. I do not know if the UN can stop the genocide in Sudan. If they can, perhaps they should also be invited into Iraq.

Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — July 31, 2007 @ 7:42 pm

Um… I think they refused to go.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979613 Zooey Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:03:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979613 <em>I don’t know which way to take that comment. Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — July 31, 2007 @ 8:11 pm</em> Whew....I thought it was just me.... I don’t know which way to take that comment.
Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — July 31, 2007 @ 8:11 pm

Whew….I thought it was just me….

]]> By: circusfifthfloor http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979382 circusfifthfloor Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:52:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979382 Oh. is that Eric again? He hasn't improved any, has he? Featherhead. Oh. is that Eric again? He hasn’t improved any, has he? Featherhead.

]]> By: GoTFreedumb? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979345 GoTFreedumb? Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:40:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979345 <strong>T.P. For Crying out LOUD! STOP DELETING MY COMMENTS! YOU MAKE THE MATTERS WORSE!</strong> T.P. For Crying out LOUD! STOP DELETING MY COMMENTS!
YOU MAKE THE MATTERS WORSE!

]]> By: GoTFreedumb? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979341 GoTFreedumb? Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:39:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979341 # BREAKING NEWS……26,000 soldiers being sent to Darfur Region in Sudan. Why is the UN invading a sovereign, independent country? Please TP, jump all over the UN about this. Comment by Eric — July 31, 2007 @ 6:45 pm <strong>WAY OFF TOPIC!!!!! TOPIC IS:VoteVets launches Tillman petition.</strong> <blockquote></blockquote> #

BREAKING NEWS……26,000 soldiers being sent to Darfur Region in Sudan. Why is the UN invading a sovereign, independent country? Please TP, jump all over the UN about this.

Comment by Eric — July 31, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
WAY OFF TOPIC!!!!!
TOPIC IS:VoteVets launches Tillman petition.

]]> By: Osama's Still Free http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979325 Osama's Still Free Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:31:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979325 <em>No, the poison gas you are pointing out was used on Kurds in 1988. The UN Weapons inspectors were looking for any sign of a reconsituted weapons program in 2002 and couldn’t find any. Hans Blix, the UN Weapons Inspection Chief, said they needed a few more months of work, not 7 years. Bush went to Congress with a resolution saying he would attack Iraq as a last possible move after the Weapons Inspectors did their work. He also said he would come back to Congress with evidence of Saddam’s complicity in the 9-11 attack. Then, Bush told the inspectors to leave for their own safety, attacked Iraq and never went back to congress with legitimate proof of Saddam’s supposed part in 9-11. That’s what happened, Eric. I don’t know where you get your history, but yours is a little distorted. Where, for example, did you get this “7 years” number? Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper</em> Correct... <em>The UN is pretty pathetic when it comes to genocide. I doubt that they will be as effective as the USA is in Iraq. Comment by Philonous </em> Yeah, Bush is a real MURDERER. I AGREE... No, the poison gas you are pointing out was used on Kurds in 1988. The UN Weapons inspectors were looking for any sign of a reconsituted weapons program in 2002 and couldn’t find any. Hans Blix, the UN Weapons Inspection Chief, said they needed a few more months of work, not 7 years. Bush went to Congress with a resolution saying he would attack Iraq as a last possible move after the Weapons Inspectors did their work. He also said he would come back to Congress with evidence of Saddam’s complicity in the 9-11 attack. Then, Bush told the inspectors to leave for their own safety, attacked Iraq and never went back to congress with legitimate proof of Saddam’s supposed part in 9-11.

That’s what happened, Eric. I don’t know where you get your history, but yours is a little distorted. Where, for example, did you get this “7 years” number?

Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper

Correct…

The UN is pretty pathetic when it comes to genocide. I doubt that they will be as effective as the USA is in Iraq.

Comment by Philonous

Yeah, Bush is a real MURDERER. I AGREE…

]]> By: ThereIS NO FREEDUMBS! http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979284 ThereIS NO FREEDUMBS! Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:16:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979284 <strong></strong><strong># Probe of attorney firings a 'witch hunt,' Cheney says # General censured for Tillman 'deception' # U.N. OKs 26,000 troops for Darfur # Doctors rip Gitmo treatment as unethical http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/139339036/index.html</strong> http://www.hotsheet.com/ <blockquote></blockquote> # Probe of attorney firings a ‘witch hunt,’ Cheney says
# General censured for Tillman ‘deception’
# U.N. OKs 26,000 troops for Darfur
# Doctors rip Gitmo treatment as unethical
http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/139339036/index.html
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]]> By: Egreggious, Esq. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979267 Egreggious, Esq. Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:11:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979267 <em>The UN is pretty pathetic when it comes to genocide. I doubt that they will be as effective as the USA is in Iraq. Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 8:01 pm</em> I don't know which way to take that comment. The UN is pretty pathetic when it comes to genocide. I doubt that they will be as effective as the USA is in Iraq.

Comment by Philonous — July 31, 2007 @ 8:01 pm

I don’t know which way to take that comment.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979254 Wayne Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:04:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979254 You avoid the illogic I present Comment by Eric Yes, I do avoid, the illogic you present. That is all you present is illogic now go Cheney yourself, dimwit. You avoid the illogic I present
Comment by Eric

Yes, I do avoid, the illogic you present. That is all you present is illogic
now go Cheney yourself, dimwit.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979250 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:02:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979250 Eric: "Egreggious…..if you recall, they were invited into Iraq. They wanted to spend another 7 years deciding if Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction when ample evidence proved he had already used them in the form of poison gas on his own people." No, the poison gas you are pointing out was used on Kurds in 1988. The UN Weapons inspectors were looking for any sign of a reconsituted weapons program in 2002 and couldn't find any. Hans Blix, the UN Weapons Inspection Chief, said they needed a few more months of work, not 7 years. Bush went to Congress with a resolution saying he would attack Iraq as a last possible move after the Weapons Inspectors did their work. He also said he would come back to Congress with evidence of Saddam's complicity in the 9-11 attack. Then, Bush told the inspectors to leave for their own safety, attacked Iraq and never went back to congress with legitimate proof of Saddam's supposed part in 9-11. That's what happened, Eric. I don't know where you get your history, but yours is a little distorted. Where, for example, did you get this "7 years" number? Eric: “Egreggious…..if you recall, they were invited into Iraq. They wanted to spend another 7 years deciding if Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction when ample evidence proved he had already used them in the form of poison gas on his own people.”

No, the poison gas you are pointing out was used on Kurds in 1988. The UN Weapons inspectors were looking for any sign of a reconsituted weapons program in 2002 and couldn’t find any. Hans Blix, the UN Weapons Inspection Chief, said they needed a few more months of work, not 7 years. Bush went to Congress with a resolution saying he would attack Iraq as a last possible move after the Weapons Inspectors did their work. He also said he would come back to Congress with evidence of Saddam’s complicity in the 9-11 attack. Then, Bush told the inspectors to leave for their own safety, attacked Iraq and never went back to congress with legitimate proof of Saddam’s supposed part in 9-11.

That’s what happened, Eric. I don’t know where you get your history, but yours is a little distorted. Where, for example, did you get this “7 years” number?

]]> By: Philonous http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979247 Philonous Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:01:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979247 Egreggious, Esq. The UN is pretty pathetic when it comes to genocide. I doubt that they will be as effective as the USA is in Iraq. Egreggious, Esq.

The UN is pretty pathetic when it comes to genocide. I doubt that they will be as effective as the USA is in Iraq.

]]> By: Eric http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979235 Eric Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:52:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979235 Nice try Wayne. You avoid the illogic I present and then Wayne the pot calls the kettle black. Clueless just became your middle name. Nice try Wayne. You avoid the illogic I present and then Wayne the pot calls the kettle black. Clueless just became your middle name.

]]> By: Eric http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979231 Eric Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:50:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979231 Egreggious.....if you recall, they were invited into Iraq. They wanted to spend another 7 years deciding if Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction when ample evidence proved he had already used them in the form of poison gas on his own people. Saddam had also made a mockery of the UN resolutions and was emboldening other nut cases like Ahmadinejad of Iran. The UN is very reactive - they rarely do anything preventative as evidenced in their failure to keep Hezbollah out of Southern Lebanon. They are sometimes like the French soldiers in the Monty Python movie Holy Grail. Not a very good deterrent. Egreggious…..if you recall, they were invited into Iraq. They wanted to spend another 7 years deciding if Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction when ample evidence proved he had already used them in the form of poison gas on his own people. Saddam had also made a mockery of the UN resolutions and was emboldening other nut cases like Ahmadinejad of Iran. The UN is very reactive – they rarely do anything preventative as evidenced in their failure to keep Hezbollah out of Southern Lebanon. They are sometimes like the French soldiers in the Monty Python movie Holy Grail. Not a very good deterrent.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979229 Wayne Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:49:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979229 I just want to try and understand the logical mind of liberals. Comment by Eric To do that Eric, you would have to understand the concept of logic. By your posts, I do not think you even have a clue, sorry I just want to try and understand the logical mind of liberals.
Comment by Eric

To do that Eric, you would have to understand the concept of logic.
By your posts, I do not think you even have a clue, sorry

]]> By: Egreggious, Esq. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3979221 Egreggious, Esq. Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:42:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/07/31/votevets-launches-tillman-petition/#comment-3979221 <i>So trying to stop genocide in Sudan is good if it is by the UN, but trying to stop genocide in Iraq is bad if done by the US and it’s allies? I just want to try and understand the logical mind of liberals. It is very hard, but I’m making headway. All you have to do is be hypocritical and then explain to others that you’re not. I’m getting it. Thanks. Comment by Eric — July 31, 2007 @ 7:38 pm</i> I really don't know too much about this. I don't know what kind of record the UN forces have in stopping genocide. I don't know what techniques they use. There is a situation in the Sudan that needs a solution. What has been happening there was not working. On the other hand, the genocide in Iraq has actually erupted in the presence of the US military and has not subsided. I do not know if the UN can stop the genocide in Sudan. If they can, perhaps they should also be invited into Iraq. So trying to stop genocide in Sudan is good if it is by the UN, but trying to stop genocide in Iraq is bad if done by the US and it’s allies? I just want to try and understand the logical mind of liberals. It is very hard, but I’m making headway. All you have to do is be hypocritical and then explain to others that you’re not. I’m getting it. Thanks.

Comment by Eric — July 31, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

I really don’t know too much about this. I don’t know what kind of record the UN forces have in stopping genocide. I don’t know what techniques they use. There is a situation in the Sudan that needs a solution. What has been happening there was not working. On the other hand, the genocide in Iraq has actually erupted in the presence of the US military and has not subsided.

I do not know if the UN can stop the genocide in Sudan. If they can, perhaps they should also be invited into Iraq.

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