Last night, during his interview with Larry King, Vice President Cheney claimed that “the reports I’m hearing, from people whose views I respect, indicate that the Petraeus plan is in fact producing results.”
On Anderson Cooper’s show later in the evening, CNN Baghdad correspondent Michael Ware, who spoke live on a night scope camera while embedded with troops responded to “the vice president’s evaluation” of progress in Iraq, calling it “sleight of hand.” “Yeah, sectarian violence is down, but let’s have a look at that,” said Ware. “More than two million people have fled this country. 50,000 are still fleeing every month, according to the United Nations. So there’s less people to be killed. And those who stay, increasingly are in ethnically-cleansed neighborhoods. They’ve been segregated.”
“There is still no sense of unity. And without America to act as the big baby sitter, this thing is not going to last.” Watch it:
Ware also responded to Brookings Institution analysts Michael O’Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack’s recent New York Times op-ed offering a sunny appraisal of progress in Iraq, calling the report “very one dimensional.” “It doesn’t look at what’s been done to achieve this and what long term sustainability there is,” said Ware. “I mean, these guys unfortunately were only in the country for eight days.”
In order to achieve the small victories that O’Hanlon and Pollack cherry-picked for their column, America is actually undermining the Iraqi government, according to Ware. “What America needs to come clean about is that it’s achieving these successes by cutting deals, primarily, with its enemies,” he said.
“By achieving these successes, America is building Sunni militias,” said Ware. “Yes, they’re targeting al Qaeda, but these are also anti-government forces opposed to the very government that America created.”
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August 1st, 2007 at 12:03 pm“There is still no sense of unity. And without America to act as the big baby sitter, this thing is not going to last.â€
It might.
If the Iraqis stopped acting like big babies.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:05 pmYou know – I’m sure Michael Ware is somewhat biased in his opinions as he has been in the thick of it for the duration of this whole mess …
But with his candor and his direct opposition to the White House spin machine …
I’d be watching my back if I was embedded with our troops … His enemies could be more than he knows …
Good luck Michael Ware – keep up the honesty …
August 1st, 2007 at 12:08 pmPerpetual war is the hottest thing in BushCo Land — so this is really working for them.
Disgusting.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:09 pmIf the Iraqis stopped acting like big babies.
Comment by Philonous
Project much? What a fool believes…
Look in the mirror, and don’t expect people to kiss your ass while you’re busy killing their neighbors.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:09 pmI’d be watching my back if I was embedded with our troops … His enemies could be more than he knows …
Good luck Michael Ware – keep up the honesty …
Comment by Sn00t
Exactly!! Just ask Pat Tillman’s family about “accidental” friendly fire!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:10 pmGood luck Michael Ware – keep up the honesty …
Comment by Sn00t — August 1, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
He’s the only reporter I trust with Iraq War news. You’re right, Sn00t, I hope he fares better than Tillman.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:10 pmComment by Not Canadian — August 1, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
Hey, that’s Ware’s metaphor, not mine.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:11 pm>
SPILLED URINE ON ‘WARE’ THREAD!
EXPECT MASS AMOUNTS OF B.S. IN THE WAKE OF THE URINE SPLASH.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:12 pmMatt, fix your formatting…
August 1st, 2007 at 12:12 pmI’d be watching my back if I was embedded with our troops … His enemies could be more than he knows …
Comment by Sn00t — August 1, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
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August 1st, 2007 at 12:13 pmWhat are you insinuating, Sn0t?
“DOD and MNF-I cannot fully account for about 110,000 AK-47 rifles, 80,000 pistols, 135,000 items of body armor, and 115,000 helmets reported as issued to Iraqi forces as of September 22, 2005.”
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d07711.pdf
August 1st, 2007 at 12:15 pmThe greatest thing America could do for Iraq is to humble itself and tell the world it made a great mistake invading it. Then ask for help. I assure you the rest of the world will respond when you put aside your pride. Instead the world sees Bush as an arrogant spoiled child playing bad with his toys.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:15 pmLet the Reichwing continue to chortle and extoll the ’success’ of the surge.
The more involvement we have in Iraq, the more it hurts them in ‘08.
(this assumes we actually get to have an election)
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August 1st, 2007 at 12:16 pmWhat are you insinuating, Sn0t?
Comment by Philonous
Trolls, the only thing they know how to do is ask questions.
Use that grey matter for something other than child porn, mmm-kay?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:17 pm#13 I assure you the rest of the world will respond when you put aside your pride. Instead the world sees Bush as an arrogant spoiled child playing bad with his toys.
Comment by michael
I agree, but that is not in the BushCo DNA, to ask for, or accept help. Just look at the millions offered for katrina when the US Government couldn’t handle the job. But they said “no Thanks”, we aren’t interested.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:18 pmWare has been discredited in the past as a Democratic partisan.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:19 pmVice President Cheney claimed that “the reports I’m hearing, from people whose views I respect, indicate that the Petraeus plan is in fact producing results.â€
The “Pretraeus plan”? I thought it was the geniuses at the American Enterprise Institute and the Pentagon that came up with the whole surge idea.
I guess if things go in the shitter over there, Dick can just say “Hey, wasn’t my idea”.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:20 pmThe greatest thing America could do for Iraq is to humble itself
Comment by michael — August 1, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
Humility is not an American ideal. Our wild west manifest destiny bullshit identity considers it to be a weakness rather than a virtue. If only…
August 1st, 2007 at 12:20 pm#17 Ware has been discredited in the past as a Democratic partisan.
Comment by Dr. Dog
OK, some facts and links, please.
And when was your last tour to Iraq or Afghanistan?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:22 pm“the reports I’m hearing, from people whose views I respect…”
The spin I’m hearing, from politicians whose views I don’t respect, indicates that the surge was yet another dishonest ploy from the very beginning.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:23 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7
Obama wants to invaded Pakistan.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:23 pmWhat kind of crap “If the Iragis stopped acting like big babies”. Give me a break.
The Iragi people as well as the government, thanks us, but want us the hell out so that they can take care of their own business and try and put there country back together.
They want Al Qaida out, and are willing to fight them and get them out. The reason why Al Qaida is there is because of the American influence.
In my opinion the only reason why our troops who are in harms way is there in Irag is because the Bushies and their cronies want total control of the oil. It’s not about democracy but it’s about total power and greed.
The 30% or so people who support this mad regimen need to get their heads out of their asses and wake up before it’s to late.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:25 pmI know! Let’s invade Pakistan and set up a democratic government there!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:27 pmWe’ll get some purple ink, and everything will be happy ever after.
It absolutely IS undermining our government….James Madison warned us of this a long time ago….that war is the enemy of our freedom.
“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.”
We need to end this insane policy of using war as a tool to advance profits and power. Period.
Some further thoughts on this:
“Leaders Don’t Kill People…”
August 1st, 2007 at 12:27 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/leaders_dont_kill_people
Obama wants to invaded Pakistan.
Comment by chris
We want you to learn English. Your sentences hurt the eyes
August 1st, 2007 at 12:28 pmI guess if things go in the shitter over there, Dick can just say “Hey, wasn’t my ideaâ€.
Comment by Rick — August 1, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
That’s probably very close to the reason Dick phrased it that ways. The wording does tend to lead the unwary to think Petraeus came up w/ the plan and BushCo is just following, when it was actually the other way around. I doubt if it was a slip on Cheney’s part.
I find it disturbing that our “leaders” **cough… cough** are basing their foreign polcy decisions on the opinions of conservative think tanks and television shows like 24, which, incidentally, is a Fox product.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:28 pmYour sentences hurt the eyes
Comment by Wayne — August 1, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Good one…
August 1st, 2007 at 12:28 pmIt’s not about democracy but it’s about total power and greed.
Comment by Aimee
Of course. If it was about democracy Bush wouldn’t be in bed with the Saudis and Musharraf. The former having been the origin of most of the hijackers and a current supplier of arms to the Iraqi civil war, the latter having forged a treaty with bin Laden that has allowed him to strengthen.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:29 pmOK, some facts and links, please.
And when was your last tour to Iraq or Afghanistan?
Comment by upside00 — August 1, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
Good call, upside00… if he’s going to make a specific claim like that, demand the proof!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:30 pmOK, some facts and links, please.
And when was your last tour to Iraq or Afghanistan?
Comment by upside00 — August 1, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
“Dr” Dog has been too busy buying his doctorate degrees.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:33 pmObama wants to invaded Pakistan.
Comment by chris
That’s not what I get from the speech at all. He is talking about going after Al Qaeda in Pakistan, in the border mountains, rather than chasing phantoms in Iraq. Not invading the Pakistani people.
My favorite part of the speech:
August 1st, 2007 at 12:33 pm
I checked the NYTimes online about ten minutes ago. There’s a new story as of about noon EDT. The Sunni bloc in the Iraqi parliament has left the government, and at least 65 people in Baghdad have died in the concomitant violence. That’s progress all right.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:34 pmSaudis and Musharraf. The former having been the origin of most of the hijackers and a current supplier of arms to the Iraqi civil war, the latter having forged a treaty with bin Laden that has allowed him to strengthen.
Comment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
yea, o boy, and didn’t that one get swept under the rug…
i never understood the seemingly “oh well” attitude
when that story showed up… and quietly went away…
and shortly there after, the “news” that alqaeda is stronger…
August 1st, 2007 at 12:36 pmuhhh… heavy sigh…
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Bin Ladin and his allies know they cannot defeat us on the field of battle or in a genuine battle of ideas. But they can provoke the reaction we’ve seen in Iraq: a misguided invasion of a Muslim country that sparks new insurgencies, ties down our military, busts our budgets, increases the pool of terrorist recruits, alienates America, gives democracy a bad name, and prompts the American people to question our engagement in the world.
Comment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
Wow. I am still a bit on the fence with Obama but this may push me over. Pretty encapsulating. Does anyone know who he works with in terms of speech writers and response coaches. This is mighty good stuff.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:37 pmAnyone seen the letter to the Judiciary / Specter committee that the WH won’t send, but will let the DoJ?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:38 pmIknow! Let’s invade Pakistan and set up a democratic government there!
We’ll get some purple ink, and everything will be happy ever after.
All we need to do is elect Obama and this can be a reality.
He must be a democrat warmonger.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:39 pmCheney’s heart = Made in China
August 1st, 2007 at 12:40 pma misguided invasion of a Muslim country
He was talking about Afghanistan, so settle down.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:40 pmSunni bloc quits the Iraqi government. When the parliament reconvenes after the break, it will be an all shiite government with an autonomous Kurdish government to the north.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:41 pmJust read the NYT story in full. I oversimplified in my earlier comment. The Sunni Accordance Front, which has 44 seats of the 275 in the parliament, has carried through on their threat to withdraw the 5 Sunni ministers in the cabinet, making the government not much of a coalition (as well as not much of a government).
August 1st, 2007 at 12:41 pmLibteenieweenie must have crystal balls.
Obama would make a great president.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:42 pmOh B. Hussein Obama. How many boys have to die in Pakistan for your private little wars.
ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL
August 1st, 2007 at 12:42 pmAll we need to do is elect Obama and this can be a reality.
He must be a democrat warmonger.
Comment by LibTeenie — August 1, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Meaningless comment. Nothing to reply to.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:43 pmThat’s not what I get from the speech at all. He is talking about going after Al Qaeda in Pakistan, in the border mountains,
August 1st, 2007 at 12:43 pmROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL, ROTFL
Comment by Happy Guy — August 1, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
This is just idiotic. DO NOT FEED THIS TROLL!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:44 pmI ask again why is the Happy Guy always ROTFLing? Nobody really does that do they? I have only ever seen one incident of a person literally ROTFL and they were super stoned.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:44 pmlower-case-chris was just trying to cause trouble…
probably didn’t read even the whole first sentence,
let alone this:
“Let me make this clear,” Obama said in a speech prepared for delivery at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”
August 1st, 2007 at 12:46 pm…
and put the blame where it belongs…
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Libteenieweenie must have crystal balls.
Obama would make a great president.
Actually they are blown glass. Get it? Blown? Get it get it? Oh never mind, libs dont have a sense of humor.
Obama would make a great pres, except for his seeming proclivity to invade sovereign muslim nations.
You plan on voting for this warmonger?
Lets have a solidarity march to celebrate warmongering.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:46 pmComment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
Oh man, that is kick ass!
August 1st, 2007 at 12:46 pm#
That’s not what I get from the speech at all. He is talking about going after Al Qaeda in Pakistan, in the border mountains,
Comment by Piper — August 1, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
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I was recently listening to an ambassador from Pakistan who stated that they, the Pakistanis, have sent 85,000 troops to the border regions to “fight al-qaeda”. What I find interesting about this is that each time the US offers help in this effort, ie. advisors, spec-ops, air support, etc., the Afghan government states that such American intervention would actually be counter-productive to their efforts.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:47 pmMeaningless comment. Nothing to reply to.
Would your comment about not replying actually be a reply? Dont worry, be happy.
I see you guys have no prob with a democrat invading a muslim nation to destroy terrorists, Id think you would also be advocating an invasion of Iran to rid ourselves of Hezbollah.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:49 pmComment by lynn Lightfoot
I’m not going to be at all surprised if the parliament doesn’t reconvene next month. I’m going to predict that during the month-long vacation Maliki will be gone and the entire government will collapse. How on earth can Iraqis, who again today have undergone horrible violence and death, have any faith in their leaders? The divisions between the factions are just too great, and our military presence isn’t helping. Unfortunately, our diplomats, ie Rice, are simply absent from the discussion.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:49 pmLets have a solidarity march to celebrate warmongering.
Comment by LibTeenie — August 1, 2007 @ 12:46 pm
This person is just posting nonsense. DON’T take the bait. There is no there there, folks.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:49 pmLessee if I can remember this now.
Feed a cold, starve a fever, ignore a troll..
August 1st, 2007 at 12:50 pmRinse and Repeat…
Thanks for the Obama post Candyce. Obama is making a strong case for him to be the leader of this country.
Am I reading libteenie right? He’s against a president invading a muslim nation? Or is he just against a presidential candidate talking about getting back to the original conflict against those who attacked us?
As for libs having no sense of humor? You’ve been kept around so……..
August 1st, 2007 at 12:52 pmI see you guys have no prob with a democrat invading a muslim nation to destroy terrorists, Id think you would also be advocating an invasion of Iran to rid ourselves of Hezbollah.
Comment by TeenieWeenie
When did Hezbollah attack America, please? I missed that.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:52 pmThis person is just posting nonsense. DON’T take the bait. There is no there there, folks.
Nah, youre just having trouble understanding.
Im still waiting for a cogent answer why its ok for Obama to say he would invade a sovereign muslim nation to pursue terrorists.
Anyone anyone? Buhler?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:53 pmRepublic,
Re. Michael Ware — not the most impartial of correspondents:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ware#Life_and_career
Scroll down to “Controversies”
I know wikipedia is not the most accurate source, but doing voiceover on a propaganda film from the enemy? Who does he think he is, Michael Moore?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:53 pmI’m not going to be at all surprised if the parliament doesn’t reconvene next month. I’m going to predict that during the month-long vacation Maliki will be gone and the entire government will collapse.
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Comment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
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I wouldn’t predict that, but I don’t think you are far off the mark, especially with Maliki leaving. I will predict, however, that in September our MSM will ignore the near-collapse of the Iraqi government and be constantly reporting how well the surge is working. You notice they never seem to mention the end goal, that is, what the surge is supposed to accomplish?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:54 pmI’m not Obama. I cannot answer for him.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:55 pmWhen did Hezbollah attack America, please? I missed that.
They didnt but they did kill a few hundred U.S. Marines in 1983, as well as dozens of other hits against us and our allies. Is that good enough to warrant a counter-attack or should we just write them off?
August 1st, 2007 at 12:55 pmAm I reading libteenie right? He’s against a president invading a muslim nation?
Comment by hellinabucket
Maybe he’s trying to point out the hypocrisy in supporting a Dem who advocates that policy and excoriating a Repub who executed the same policy.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:56 pmYou notice they never seem to mention the end goal, that is, what the surge is supposed to accomplish?
Comment by Chris L
haha, yeah. It’s kinda like asking them what winning looks like. Crickets.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:56 pmI remember when Hezbollah attacked those Marines. And I remember the great Ronald Reagan’s response: Cut & Run.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:57 pmFollow the logic. Things are getting much better in Iraq, so let’s stay another 3 years? What? Ok if things are going well then we can leave.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:58 pmRight? Let’s at least reduce the troop level.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — August 1, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
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OK, what journalist do you trust who has been there as long as Michael Ware? Try to attack the message, not the messenger. Why do you think Ware is wrong? He lives, works, talks, and has gained the trust of our soldiers. If our government was worried he was alligned with the “enemy”, they would not allow him to have constant interaction with our troops.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:58 pmHaving said that, I won’t reply to any other comments you direct at me, and I will continue to point out the meaningless comments you make for others’ benefit.
August 1st, 2007 at 12:58 pmI remember when Hezbollah attacked those Marines. And I remember the great Ronald Reagan’s response: Cut & Run.
Comment by dim wit — August 1, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
Ahhhhh, memories…..of the great corpse puppet. :)
August 1st, 2007 at 1:00 pmAm I reading libteenie right? He’s against a president invading a muslim nation?
Not at all, Im just waiting to see your answer as to why a dem invading a muslim nation wont cause a rise in terrorism and terrorism recruiting, while you simaltaneously claim that is exactly what occurred in Iraq.
Heh, this should be good.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:00 pmWhere have we heard this before?
“What America needs to come clean about is that it’s achieving these successes by cutting deals, primarily, with its enemies,â€
Considering Duhhbya has Henry Kissinger whispering in his ear, this should come as no shock.
Henry’s track record shows that he has no problem cutting deals without regard to how many will die as a result.
Heckuva job, Henry.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:00 pmLibTeenie (the name he has for his penis, by the way) isn’t good at remembering Reagan’s “cut and run” strategy in 1983, nor can he remember Bush pulling troops out of Afghanistan as they closed in on Bin Laden, Bush’s best buddy, nor the same cut and run tactic Bush used in 2005, once again letting his good buddy escape. Republicans have never been able to defend this country, and are lousy on national defense and the economy. Any other viewpoint is either a lie or a serious character flaw. republicans, let’s don’t forget, are the same people that wanted to stay under the flag of England in 1776.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:01 pmMaybe he’s trying to point out the hypocrisy in supporting a Dem who advocates that policy and excoriating a Repub who executed the same policy.
Comment by Cynicon Implant
I don’t recall a lot of resistance to going after al Qaeda in Afghanistan. The country was pretty much behind the president on that one. So I don’t see the hypocrisy. The only thing Bush has been excoriated for is not finishing the job. They had Osama and chose not to pursue him.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:02 pmThey didnt but they did kill a few hundred U.S. Marines in 1983, as well as dozens of other hits against us and our allies. Is that good enough to warrant a counter-attack or should we just write them off?
Comment by LibTeenie — August 1, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
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I remember that. I do not support attacking Iran for that reason, however, anymore than attacking Israel for killing 173 American sailors. Not saying I wouldn’t like some payback, but you have to pick your battles – see General Omar Bradley’s remarks on invading China. Also, remember, we would have little to no allies in such a battle, against Hezbollah. Only three countries in the world recognize Hezbollah and Hamas as terrorist organizations, and I can’t remember the last time Israel helped us out with any troops, money, etc. So we would be “going it alone” so to speak.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:02 pmOK, what journalist do you trust who has been there as long as Michael Ware? Try to attack the message, not the messenger. Why do you think Ware is wrong?
Comment by Chris L
Chris, I guess I trust Ware’s report as much as many here trust O’Hanlon’s and Pollack’s report.
It’s tough to tell what the real story is in Iraq with all the agenda driven reporting going on, but my sense is that there is some progress being in the last few months. I’m still not sure whether this will end up being worth it in the end but right now does not seem to be the right time to advocate a withdrawal.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:04 pmChris L.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:05 pmGoing it alone. No coalition of the bribed third world nations>?
It’s tough to tell what the real story is in Iraq with all the agenda driven reporting going on, but my sense is that there is some progress being in the last few months. I’m still not sure whether this will end up being worth it in the end but right now does not seem to be the right time to advocate a withdrawal.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — August 1, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
Not trying to be a tool as it seems this is a thoughtful response. What is it that “gives you a sense”? Is it your “spidey senses that are tingling” or are their evidences you might point to to support your sense?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:08 pmWay….way….way off topic, but:
I ask again why is the Happy Guy always ROTFLing? Nobody really does that do they? I have only ever seen one incident of a person literally ROTFL and they were super stoned.
Comment by dbadass — August 1, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
Once, right after high school, at a party that had provided, ummmm, something herbal to put in a bong and inhale, I saw a dude laugh so hard, he was doing a Curly spin (from the 3 stooges) on the floor, for what seemed like an hour.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:08 pmMay have been one of the funniest thing I had ever seen.
…and then I ate a full bag of Doritos, and made philosophical references that made absolutely no sense, but that’s a different story.
I don’t recall a lot of resistance to going after al Qaeda in Afghanistan. The country was pretty much behind the president on that one. So I don’t see the hypocrisy. The only thing Bush has been excoriated for is not finishing the job. They had Osama and chose not to pursue him.
Comment by Candyce
Candyce, I think the admin. has been pretty clear that they felt all along that eliminating Osama would not eliminate the terror problem. Would have helped short-term and I wish they had done it — but he’s just one part of it.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:09 pmAll we need to do is elect Obama and this can be a reality.
He must be a democrat warmonger.
Comment by LibTeenies
God forbid Obama is actually smart enough to utilize our military and national intelligence correctly unlike our current Presidential administration.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:10 pmComment by DRxJ — August 1, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
Check out “A Child’s Garden of Grass”. It can be obtained on CD but I have vintage vinyl. Oh and that dude was my dad.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:11 pmBest-
I think the admin. has been pretty clear that they felt all along that eliminating Osama would not eliminate the terror problem.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — August 1, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
….and by that reasoning, one who commits a horrendous crime (let’s say rape) is not brought to justice because it will not end all rape crimes?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:12 pmThat makes no friggin’ sense!
Im still waiting for a cogent answer why its ok for Obama to say he would invade a sovereign muslim nation to pursue terrorists.
Comment by LibTeenie — August 1, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
If a US citizen does a terrorist attack in Russia and hides here, we would not want Russia invade now would we?
It is NOT OK for Obama, Clinton, Bush or anybody else to invade any sovereign nation to start a war for any reason other than when that soverign nation tries to or does attack the United States.
Almost all the Democratic and Republican candidates are war mongers, including the 3 front runners on each side!
I will vote for the Republican Ron Paul before I vote for any war mongering Democrat, like Obama, Clinton, Edwards, Biden, Richardson, and the rest (except for Kucinich and Gravel)!
Is that what you wanted to hear LibTeenie?
I usually do not feed the trolls, but even they like a broken clock can be right once in a while!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:12 pmObama would certainly do a better job than the current administration of Fred Flinstone and Ralph Cramden. Hell, Homer Simpson is smarter than Bush.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pmt’s tough to tell what the real story is in Iraq with all the agenda driven reporting going on, but my sense is that there is some progress being in the last few months. I’m still not sure whether this will end up being worth it in the end but right now does not seem to be the right time to advocate a withdrawal.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — August 1, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
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I see. I agree with Ware. I spent 18 months in Iraq with the US Army, and I still have many friends there. Most of his reporting is spot on with what they tell me as well, and he interviews and quotes soldiers (or at least their PAO’s) quite often. I think most of the right-wing distrusts Ware because he does not tell them what they want to hear. In this day and age, that is the same as sedition.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pmI get the feeling that I’m no longer a troll. My troll hairs are falling out, and I know see human-like features in the mirror. I’m still wondering, is that a nose?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:16 pmI feel the Michael Whare is the only person telling the truth about Iraq and Bahgdad; I hope that the administration goons are not sent to silence him.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:18 pmNot trying to be a tool as it seems this is a thoughtful response. What is it that “gives you a sense� Is it your “spidey senses that are tingling†or are their evidences you might point to to support your sense?
Comment by dbadass
Nah, spidey senses aren’t tingling at the moment — but I am typing this as I hang from the ceiling…
The casualty numbers over the last few months look encouraging (trending down). Have read some accounts from over there by a guy name Michael Yon that are pretty positive (if war can be positive).
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bread-and-a-circus-part-i-of-ii.htm
August 1st, 2007 at 1:21 pmIn this day and age, that is the same as sedition.
Comment by Chris L — August 1, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Thanks for the link, Chris.
This is a good example of what this government has done to erode our freedoms. Talk about witch hunts!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:23 pmComment by Chris L — August 1, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Thanks for your service to the country despite my lack of support for the mission you were tasked with
August 1st, 2007 at 1:24 pmI think most of the right-wing distrusts Ware because he does not tell them what they want to hear. In this day and age, that is the same as sedition.
Comment by Chris L
Well, sedition is a pretty tough charge. On Ware though — any “reporter” who isn’t skeptical enough to find out that the video was an enemy propaganda tape is not doing his job.
Have you read anything by this Michael Yon?
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bread-and-a-circus-part-i-of-ii.htm
BTW, thanks for your service to this country!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:25 pm“Last night, during his interview with Larry King, Vice President Cheney claimed that ‘the reports I’m hearing, from people whose views I respect, indicate that the Petraeus plan is in fact producing results.’ ”
I guess “people whose views I respect” = “people whose views support my agenda”
August 1st, 2007 at 1:25 pmMaybe you can show us where, exactly, Obama advocating invading any country.
Military action to take out suitable targets can be done without an invasion.
Life ain’t like Risk. Too bad neither you nor Bush seems to understand that fact.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:31 pmIraqi PM, Al-Maliki, has a Major problem on his hands and he may leave General Patreaus no other choice but to issue a FINAL report on September 15th, that many who support the Iraq war will find discomforting!
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/08/bad-day-for-iraqi-government-as.html#links
August 1st, 2007 at 1:32 pmMuslims have more respect for life than Cheney.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:35 pmThis is a good example of what this government has done to erode our freedoms. Talk about witch hunts!
Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — August 1, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
Wow. That’s a shocking article.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:39 pmGoing it alone. No coalition of the bribed third world nations>?
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
Cameroon’s got our back, yo!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:40 pmIn a way, we’re already in Pakistan:
“In recent months, outsourcing has been elevated to a whole new level. Forget about help desks and computer programmers. The Pentagon is now outsourcing its fighting men. The US army is renting out entire divisions of the Pakistan army. According to US assistant secretary of state Richard Boucher, the Pentagon is paying around $100 million a month for the deployment of 80,000 troops on its border with Afghanistan, ostensibly for the war on terrorism.”
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/rent-a-troop.html
August 1st, 2007 at 1:42 pmWow. That’s a shocking article.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
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It received about as much media coverage as this one.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:43 pmThis is a good example of what this government has done to erode our freedoms. Talk about witch hunts!
Comment by Egreggious, Esq. — August 1, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
Wow. That’s a shocking article.
Comment by Zooey
Indeed. Creepy beyond belief.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:44 pmr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How’s everything, man?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:44 pm“The level of activity that we see today from a military standpoint, I think, will clearly decline. I think they’re in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency.”
–VP Cheney, 2005
“[T]he reports I’m hearing, from people whose views I respect, indicate that the Petraeus plan is in fact producing results.â€
–VP Cheney, 2007
Different year, same lies and distortions.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:45 pmComment by margaret — August 1, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
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Don’t forget, 86% of detainees in Guantanamo Bay were captured by Pakistani forces.
I’m off to lunch, be back later.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:45 pm>Maybe he’s trying to point out the hypocrisy in supporting a Dem who >advocates that policy and excoriating a Repub who executed the same >policy.
you mean the policy of “attacking a muslim nation which had nothing to do with 9-11″ vs. the policy of “attack a muslim nation which was deeply involved in 9-11″ ?
Iraq = a country with absolutely nothing to do with 9-11. in fact its leader was a secular dicator who distrusted religious fanatics. thats why we gave him weapons and gas to use on religious nuts in the 80’s.
Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia= Countries with deepl involvement in 9-11. im not.
> but doing voiceover on a propaganda film from the enemy?
its news moron….people should know the pointless meat grinder their sons + daughters are being shoved into.
are you prepared to condemn every news outlet that have ever showed a bin laden tape just like you do ware?
August 1st, 2007 at 1:48 pm[...] but right now does not seem to be the right time to advocate a withdrawal.
Comment by Cynicon Implant — August 1, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
It wasn’t the time right after the mission was “accomplished”.
It wasn’t the time right after it was obvious there were no WMD in Iraq.
It wasn’t the time right after Iraqis held their elections.
It wasn’t the time right after Hussein was executed.
Supporters of the occupation of Iraq keep moving the goal posts and crying “it is not the time to withdraw”. They are really advocating an occupation for the foreseeable future. The obvious question is: If not now, then when? (Now is just as good as any other time.)
August 1st, 2007 at 1:51 pmChris L,
When I read your link I looked up Donald Vance to see if he’d sued Rumsfeld yet as your link says he was planning to do. This was the most recent link I could find quickly:
“Vance, a two-time George W. Bush voter and Navy veteran”
“My name used to be 200343,” Vance said recalling his prisoner ID. “If they can do this to a former Navy man and an American, what is happening to people in facilities all over the world run by the American government?”
“‘In a lawsuit now pending against former Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and “other unidentified agents,’ Vance and Ertel accuse their U.S. government captors of subjecting them to psychological torture day and night.”
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/040907J.shtml
August 1st, 2007 at 1:51 pmIn this day and age, that is the same as sedition.
Comment by Chris L
More proof of the slide to fascism.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:52 pmChilling.
It received about as much media coverage as this one.
Comment by Chris L — August 1, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
Unbelievable….
August 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pmOf course, there never was a “right time” for an illegal invasion and occupation of iraq, either, but that didn’t even slow them down. What a bunch of sociopathic losers. The USA has devolved into a third-rate bully-boy country headed by psychopaths.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pmOf course, there never was a “right time†for an illegal invasion and occupation of iraq, either, but that didn’t even slow them down.
Comment by ronjazz — August 1, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
This is worth repeating…
Just like there is no “right time” for a strike against Iran, and that doesn’t seem to hold them back either.
But it is always the “right time” to “appease” (to use the favorite NeoCon word) those BinLaden-lovin’ Pakistani allies in this phony “war on terror”.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pmSupporters of the occupation of Iraq keep moving the goal posts and crying “it is not the time to withdrawâ€. They are really advocating an occupation for the foreseeable future. The obvious question is: If not now, then when? (Now is just as good as any other time.)
Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 1, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
Actually, now is pretty bad. Politics aside, it’s not possible to withdraw now. The chaotic situation we’ve created makes it physically impossible for us to remove large numbes of troops and equipment from Iraq, and if we do, the reduced troop numbers who remain in the country waiting for their turn to redeploy will be at greater risk of attack.
You’re right. We will be occupying for the forseeable future. We’re stuck there whether we want to withdraw or not.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pm>The casualty numbers over the last few months look encouraging
>(trending down).
For who? The iraqi people our prescense is supposed to be protecting?
Its going up, actually.. So less of our people are putting themselves out there to protect the iraqi people.. what other explanation for the rise is civilian deaths???
invaders can make thier casualities numbers drop anytime they want.. just put less bodies out in the line of fire….
oh no, wait this administration is too honest to cynically manipulate casualty figures to try and makes thier surge seem to be working..
and Micheal Yon.. a former special forces soldier with no journalism experience.. nice source your citing there..
August 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pmComment by margaret — August 1, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
Thank you, margaret.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pmillegal invasion?
Comment by ronjazz — August 1, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
The US congress authorized it.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pmThe US congress authorized it.
Comment by r — August 1, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
It was still illegal under international law.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:59 pmProgressive policies provide for a strong, unified America.
August 1st, 2007 at 1:59 pmillegal invasion?
Comment by ronjazz — August 1, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
The US congress authorized it.
Comment by r — August 1, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
the us congress is a bunch of traitors, especially leahy, conyers, and schumer.
to the hague!
August 1st, 2007 at 1:59 pmThis also highlights why Miliki is calling for Petraeus to be removed. The Saddam loyalists that we are arming to fight al Qaeda is indeed and enemy of the Miliki government.
Cutting deals is nothing new and there is nothing wrong per se with cutting deals. You just have to make sure the the positives are greater than the negatives, both short term and long term. These deals appear to have some short term positives that are more than offset by long term negatives.
Today we learn that the Sunni block is resigning from the Miliki government. Earlier the al Sadr block resigned from the government. At this point I don’t see where Miliki has a majority government any more. In most Parlimentary governments a new election would be forced. Who knows how this will play out in Iraq, however.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:00 pmMeta-Progressive ™ policies provide for a strong, unified America.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 1:59 pm
August 1st, 2007 at 2:00 pmThat’s better.
Rawstory:
Pelosi: Spying compromise with Bush may pass this week
WTF?
Instead of impeaching for breaking the law and violating the Constitution, Pelosi is pulling a Spector and
placatingkissin the a$$ of the Chimp of Thieves?What Party is Pelosi with again?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:00 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 1:59 pm
Government oversight is critical to success.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:01 pmGovernment oversight is critical to success.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
what does government oversight have to do with killing radical muslims?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:02 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
“Meta-progressive” has no meaning, signifies nothing.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:02 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
“Meta-progressive†has no meaning, signifies nothing.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
neither does “progressive”
August 1st, 2007 at 2:03 pmWe’re stuck there whether we want to withdraw or not.
Comment by toasterhead — August 1, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
And my argument is -with all due respect- that this take on the situation is bogus. The US chose to get “stuck there”. This administration can choose to get “unstuck”.
If a withdrawal from Vietnam was possible -where an even larger number of troops were committed- a withdrawal from Iraq is certainly feasible.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:03 pmToday we learn that the Sunni block is resigning from the Miliki government. Earlier the al Sadr block resigned from the government. At this point I don’t see where Miliki has a majority government any more. In most Parlimentary governments a new election would be forced. Who knows how this will play out in Iraq, however.
Comment by DallasNE — August 1, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
I predict we will see a loose federation of Iraqi Emirates in a year or two.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:03 pmthat OBAMA quote is all over the news… well, XM left…
listening to ed schultz, he’s all over it, loving it…
so far not one caller is against what obama said:
“There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”
…
August 1st, 2007 at 2:04 pm115. The US congress authorized it.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:04 pm* * *
Based on cooked intel. From an Administration incapable of telling the truth.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
The point, you troll, is that the congress should have wider role in running a complex war than one person, this case being an inbred.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:05 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
This entire site, attached to the Center for American Progress, tells you what it signifies. It signifies a new America.
Do you want to be part of the new America, or do you want to remain a pastime?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pmThe US chose to get “stuck thereâ€. Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 1, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
———
hypothetically, even if your assumption is correct, it makes no difference.
if one chooses to jump into a pit of quick sand, he is still stuck there and will have to struggle to get out.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pm“There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.â€
Dem, Rep, whatever. They know US citizenry too well: Fear = Perpetual war = profits for a bunch.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pmWhere have all the Sunnis gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the Sunnis gone?
Far, far away
Where have all the Sunnis gone?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pmAll resigned, every mother’s son…
When will we ever learn?
When will we ever learn?
The US congress authorized it.
Comment by r
Oh, then that makes it ok. Now I can sleep.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:10 pmif one chooses to jump into a pit of quick sand, he is still stuck there and will have to struggle to get out.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
Getting out? So you’re surrendering to the quicksand then? You quicksand-loving surrender monkey.
What you need is to throw more people in there, until the pile of bodies is tall enough for you to climb out. Geez, it’s obvious, right?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:13 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
This entire site, attached to the Center for American Progress, tells you what it signifies. It signifies a new America.
Do you want to be part of the new America, or do you want to remain a pastime?
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
so you don’t believe in traditional American values. great, “progressive” means “anti-American”
thanks for clearing that up.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:14 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
Who’s with me on amending the constitution to give the Congress the “Commander-in-Chief” title over the President (who’s one person), so that these wasteful, prolonged conflicts never happen again?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:14 pmThe US congress authorized it.
Comment by r — August 1, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
Umm, no. The force resolution required Bush to document claims, which were never justified. He did not reply to the resolution, except to parrot back the items. The Congress, being the Republican shills they were, didn’t have the balls to call him on it.
So illegal, you bet, all the way!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:15 pmif one chooses to jump into a pit of quick sand, he is still stuck there and will have to struggle to get out.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
Again, this construct is bogus.
This is a war of choice. The US chose to invade Iraq. The White House chose to continue the occupation of that country.
There is no man in the sky keeping the American troops captive in that country. The military bases, the embassy, etc. are being built because someone(s) decided it should be so.
By building up their military presence in the Middle East, the US government is choosing to be involved (”get stuck”) in the developments in the region. They could just as well chose not to be involved.
The man in the quicksand pit comparison is invalid.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:15 pmif one chooses to jump into a pit of quick sand, he is still stuck there and will have to struggle to get out.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
Getting out? So you’re surrendering to the quicksand then? You quicksand-loving surrender monkey.
What you need is to throw more people in there, until the pile of bodies is tall enough for you to climb out. Geez, it’s obvious, right?
Comment by Luis M — August 1, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
what you need, is to pull yourself together, and make a serious effort to overcome the difficulties.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:15 pmNachos of Justice: Cool name!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:16 pmIf a withdrawal from Vietnam was possible -where an even larger number of troops were committed- a withdrawal from Iraq is certainly feasible.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 1, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
Every analyst I’ve heard has said it would take 12-18 months to get out every soldier, contractor, vehicle, and piece of equipment. Although I do wonder if this is a part of the “secure the crap out of Anbar” strategy. If we cut a deal with the IAI by which they protect our troops as we leave and then clean up the ISI after we’re gone, we could possibly get out via Jordan.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:17 pmFrom yahoo news:
“I know that I would not engage in a cover-up. I know that no one in the White House suggested such a thing to me. I know that the gentlemen sitting next to me are men of enormous integrity and would not participate in something like that,” Rumsfeld told a House committee.
We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.”
Integrity, yep.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:17 pm“No one ever considered they would use planes as weapons” C. Rice.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:17 pmso you don’t believe in traditional American values. great, “progressive†means “anti-Americanâ€
Please define “traditional American values” Also try to do this without the objectively. It might help the dialogue. When I hear that phrase I tend to think of freedom, rights to be whom I wish to be, ability to make individual choices which best suit me, etc. Thing is when I used to hear my waspy former father in law use the phrase it seemed more like: white males are in charge, gays are bad, recreational marijuana use makes you crazy, free thinkers are commies. It all comes down to the interpretation…
August 1st, 2007 at 2:19 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
Progressive policies are pro-America. They are non-partisan policies meant to take the best, most rational ideas out of both parties to forge a Utopian blend of rapid progress and equality.
The success of the Clinton years anchored this progressive movement. The 1990’s (without the minor scandals) is the new benchmark, but the current president is only leading to 1929, the crashing of the stock market.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:19 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
Progressive policies are pro-America. They are non-partisan policies meant to take the best, most rational ideas out of both parties to forge a Utopian blend of rapid progress and equality.
The success of the Clinton years anchored this progressive movement. The 1990’s (without the minor scandals) is the new benchmark, but the current president is only leading to 1929, the crashing of the stock market.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
this F***IST website is blocking my responses. i’ll be back later.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:21 pmComment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
I don’t know what you’re playing at, since P knows who you are.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:22 pm“I will restore honor and integrity to the White House.” GWB.
Kucinich blasts Rumy:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_grills_Rumsfeld_at_Tillman_coverup_0801.html
August 1st, 2007 at 2:22 pmstrike “without the”. Don’t ask me how that got there!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:22 pmOn Sept. 27, 2002, at a Chamber of Commerce lunch in Atlanta, Rumsfeld asserted that the Bush administration had “bulletproof” evidence linking Saddam and al-Qaida, the organization that carried out the Sept, 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.
But on Oct. 4, 2004, Rumsfeld revised his assertion, telling the Council of Foreign Relations in New York, “To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two.”
August 1st, 2007 at 2:22 pmComment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
I know that he knows who I am.
What’s you point?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:24 pmDem, Rep, whatever. They know US citizenry too well: Fear = Perpetual war = profits for a bunch.
Comment by Juan C — August 1, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
i hear you, juan…
but it’s not to say that it isn’t happening…
you know the terrorists ARE planning no-good-deeds…
but understand the context and nuance…
August 1st, 2007 at 2:24 pmthat was not rovian… that was just the truth…
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By the way, there’s plenty of precedent for Congress “meddling” in directing a war, e.g., the Truman Committee on defense spending during WWII (they would have loved investigating Halliburton); the Joint Committee on the Conduct of the War, a thorn in Lincoln’s side. If two of our best Presidents could tolerate Congress’s role, why can’t our worst?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:24 pmthis F***IST website is blocking my responses. i’ll be back later.
Comment by Mr. Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
Well, here’s an idea.
QUIT CHANGING YOUR POSTING NAME!!!
see if that helps.
You’re so welcome.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:25 pmHave a nice day!
yeah, they’ve scrubbed one of mine as well, and I won’t be back. TP is involved with actively removing posts during thread discussions. Mine involved a mere question about how did the terrorist living in a cave get past the most extensive defensive system in the world.
Limiting the free exchange of ideas in a blog called “ThinkProgress” is outragously hyporcritical.
please copy this post, it won’t be here long.
I am going to see if they removed last nights postings.
I will not be back to this forgery of a “Progressive” site. It is a fraud.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:26 pmZooey – No, thank YOU for reading and caring! Got your new backpack? I see all the back-to-school backpacks are in the stores. : )
August 1st, 2007 at 2:27 pmWhat’s you point?
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
Proceed….
August 1st, 2007 at 2:27 pmcant TP use a javascript button to change text size this is too big . also what have you done to the cookie to remember names with …also my posts sometime dont appear FIX PLEASE
August 1st, 2007 at 2:27 pmEvery analyst I’ve heard has said it would take 12-18 months to get out every soldier, contractor, vehicle, and piece of equipment.
Comment by toasterhead — August 1, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
I do realise an overnight withdrawal is not possible. However, this administration ought to be taking steps to take the troops out of Iraq and end the occupation; which was my main point.
Instead, this White House has chosen to go on a “surge” (read “escalation”) path, in their usual wrong-headed approach to solving problem. Putting more troops in Iraq is the exact opposite of what is needed, which is draw down the troop presence in Iraq. The occupation needs to come to an end. The sooner, the better -for the Iraqis and for everyone else involved.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:28 pmNachos of Justice: Cool name!
Comment by bogtrotters — August 1, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Thanks, man! Yours isn’t so bad, either!!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:28 pmopps, strike that they put it back.
Yea!
good for them!
sorry TP. i stand corrected.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:28 pmComment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
ObStupidJoke: What do you call the oil under Iraq? Nacho Oil!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:29 pmGot your new backpack? I see all the back-to-school backpacks are in the stores. : )
Comment by margaret — August 1, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
OMG, can you imagine a woman my age with a backpack? :D
But I did find a nice sale on pens and erasers….
August 1st, 2007 at 2:30 pmopps, nope, it’s gone again.
decisions decisions decisions. to censure free speech or not to. that is the question.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:31 pmEvery analyst I’ve heard has said it would take 12-18 months to get out every soldier, contractor, vehicle, and piece of equipment.
Comment by toasterhead — August 1, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
I do realize an overnight withdrawal is not possible. However, this administration ought to be taking steps to get the troops out of Iraq and end the occupation; which was my main point.
Instead, this White House has chosen to go on a “surge” (read “escalation”) path, in their usual wrong-headed approach to solving problem. Putting more troops in Iraq is the exact opposite of what is needed, which is a draw down of the US military presence in Iraq. The occupation needs to come to an end. The sooner, the better -for the Iraqis and for everyone else involved.
No more people need to die in this war of choice.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:32 pmOMG, can you imagine a woman my age with a backpack? :D
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
…and wearing nothing else? Of course I can imagine that, but hey, that’s just me!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:32 pmComment by Luis M — August 1, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
I finally got it…
That’s not so bad, Luis!!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:33 pmdecisions decisions decisions. to censure free speech or not to. that is the question.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
TP is weird enough when someone is watching it, but it’s worse when they’re not watching.
They cranked that filter up to 11 and blasted out of town….
August 1st, 2007 at 2:33 pmoppsey, now it’s back.
you guys are just messing with me know, aren’t you?
very funny. You must have so much to do, over there.
just for the record, right now it is @139. ha!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:34 pm…and wearing nothing else? Of course I can imagine that, but hey, that’s just me!
Comment by DRxJ — August 1, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
For shame!! :D
August 1st, 2007 at 2:34 pmto censure free speech or not to. that is the question.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
My guess is that they have tech problems now and then. My response to katy never appeared.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:35 pmHi Zooey. the admins just messing with me. They love doing that stuff. Better than playing solitare I suppose.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:36 pmYou guys watch the hearing?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:37 pm…and wearing nothing else? Of course I can imagine that, but hey, that’s just me!
Comment by DRxJ
hehehe. Nice job.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:38 pmFor shame!! :D
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Yeah, today I am the King of Off Topic(ity).
Hey, we all can learn from these trolls, can’t we???
My next off topic subject:
August 1st, 2007 at 2:38 pmIs everyone really lethargic today because of the heat, or is it just me???
Hi Zooey. the admins just messing with me. They love doing that stuff. Better than playing solitare I suppose.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Hi Lee J, yeah they like to keep us guessing. I hope they have a great time at YKos, so they can get back here and get registration started.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:39 pmThe link on philonous’ name is one of the dumbest websites – ever. Even a toilet would want nothing to do with disposing that s*it.
It also serves as good preparation to score miserably on an IQ test.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:39 pmand sticking with the off topic topic; I have this thing on my foot….
August 1st, 2007 at 2:40 pmWhy does TP constantly dig up Mike Ware as the Middle East expert? They used him about three weeks ago to refute McCain and now for Cheney. I asked then and I ask again why TP thinks Mike Ware’s opinion is valid? He works for a news organization, has no access to classified information, only sees things from his location, and contradicts what others are seeing that are “on the ground”. TP thinks it’s good journalism to keep going back to Mike Ware to support their opinion. Is this supposed to end the discussion? I lived in the Middle East and I know first-hand that you can’t make judgment calls on what is happening because you can’t see the big picture. What looked like a total uprising at the beginning of the Intifada was actually relegated to certain neighborhoods in the West Bank and Gaza.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pmIs everyone really lethargic today because of the heat, or is it just me???
Comment by DRxJ — August 1, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
Off topic is good, I enjoy it. :)
It’s only 84 right now, but when it gets up to 95, I think the lethargy will kick in. You have the humidity — that makes it worse. :P
August 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pmAnyone thinking the escalation is working should read Dr. Juan Cole’s blog today.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pmThe link on philonous’ name is one of the dumbest websites – ever. Even a toilet would want nothing to do with disposing that s*it.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
I can agree with that one. Oy…
August 1st, 2007 at 2:43 pmthe escalation is working.
it was designed to keep troops and corporations in Iraq …
troops and corporations are still in Iraq….
success!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:43 pmComment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Go back and read the comments — you’ll get your answer.
Sheesh….
August 1st, 2007 at 2:44 pmI have to agree with Eric. One of the few objective, expert network is Al-Jazeera. No wonder why the wanted and did bomb it.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:45 pmI know first-hand that you can’t make judgment calls on what is happening because you can’t see the big picture.
Comment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
You mean like that only 20% of the country has electricity or running water? Or that the population is in dire need of the basic human nessicities, like food and shelter?
Or do you mean the average daily murders?
Or the rapid immigration of it’s civilians out of the country?
Please explain to me the “bigger picture”
August 1st, 2007 at 2:45 pmJuan Cole’s blog is here.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:45 pm…and please excuse my spelling. It’s approaching 100 today, and dammit, I’m lethargic!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:46 pmYou have to factor in that most Presidents are limited to a responsibility to the America citizen and the soldiers in the field.
However, if you remove those two bothersome hinderances, then you can really look after the bigger picture… corporate profit margins.
Now you see why Bush says this surge is working in Iraq.
He is spending some of our precious resources for his friends profits!
it’s perfectly successful, in that way.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:46 pmSurprise, surprise….
Bush will assert “executive privilege” in response to requests for Karl Rove’s testimony and certain documents. This is all due tommorow.
And get this: The Justice Department has also said that it will not prosecute Miers/WHCS if the full House votes for criminal citations.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:47 pm177…If Eric thinks it’s OK to keep going to William Kristol for opinions we can go to Michael Ware. At least he’s IN Iraq.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:47 pmComment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Got links?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:48 pmEric, who are the “others” that report news that differs from Wares?
He’s used as a source because he has been there for some time.
You said “lived in the Middle East and I know first-hand that you can’t make judgment calls on what is happening because you can’t see the big picture.” Cheney made judgement calls. Remember “last throes”?
Ware is just one source of many. Look back thru this site and you’ll see many other resources used.
So do you still want to use this as an argument or just move on.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:49 pmenough with executive privilege. Open the Congressional Jail.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:50 pmMichael O’Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack. It’s in the story.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:51 pmso try again, juan…
August 1st, 2007 at 2:51 pmenough with executive privilege. Open the Congressional Jail.
Comment by hellinabucket
sorry. no can do. Ted Stevens is having his Oil buddy do a renovation in there. could take awhile. but, no kickbacks for the contract. “NO”
August 1st, 2007 at 2:52 pmDisappearing posts=annoying
August 1st, 2007 at 2:52 pmEliminating the abusive mischief of cruel, vile, children=priceless
Ron Paul, the Republican anti-war candidate has taken more campaign contributions from service members than McCain or any other Republican candidate. Paul [unlike Kristol] served as a flight surgeon in the Air Force in the 1960s
I wonder what our muppets [nice way of saying troll] think of this?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:53 pmOh, that’s right.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_go_co/bush_congress
Sorry, Zooey.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:53 pmInstead, this White House has chosen to go on a “surge†(read “escalationâ€) path, in their usual wrong-headed approach to solving problem. Putting more troops in Iraq is the exact opposite of what is needed, which is draw down the troop presence in Iraq. The occupation needs to come to an end. The sooner, the better -for the Iraqis and for everyone else involved.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 1, 2007 @ 2:28 pm
Totally agreed.
I still don’t understand the rationale for the surge. “We need the Iraqi government to achieve political benchmarks so they can get on with running their country, so let’s just throw more troops at the problem.” Yeah, that always works!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:54 pmEliminating the abusive mischief of cruel, vile, children=priceless
Comment by pete
Suffer the children [Muppets] unto me. -JC
August 1st, 2007 at 2:54 pmso try again, juan…
Comment by katy
It wasnt relevant, katy. Thats why I dropped it.
I agree with you. He didnt lie. But it´s like saying: hey, criminals are out there, planning to perform crimes. You know…dumb and only contributes to make people afraid and do not address the real causes of terrorism, just with the consequences.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:55 pmThanks for the link Mistress Z~
August 1st, 2007 at 2:55 pmGawd. I’m so tired of the E.P. Bull $HIT!
Hey, Dubya!
Why don’tcha Executive Privelege this here!!!!
(on second thought, with the track record of this current administration “dirty lil secrets”, I may want to retract that statement)
August 1st, 2007 at 2:56 pmThe Justice Department has also said that it will not prosecute Miers/WHCS if the full House votes for criminal citations.
INHERENT CONTEMPT!
As opposed to our trolls
INCOHERENT CONTENT!
August 1st, 2007 at 2:56 pmCould anybody tell me more about this congressional jail?
Could Alberto Gonzalez, for example, really be held and suited in this facility?
August 1st, 2007 at 2:57 pmEric, did you read their “report”? You can dress up a pig and take it to prom but it’s still a pig.
There is no evidence of any turnaround. There is no improvement in the political situation in Iraq that our leaders acknowledge as being key to any success in Iraq. The Sunni coalition just quit the govt. so there will be no progress to report come Sept. 15th.
Wouldn’t you agree that the American people deserve to know in greater detail what the plan is? Where our money is really going? What will be done to get to the benchmarks and what will be done if the benchmarks aren’t met?
Whatever happened to the honor and integrity this president said he would restore to the white house.
I have several posts deleted as well but I temper it with the long term goals.
August 1st, 2007 at 2:59 pmComment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
yes…but…Pelosi said “accountability is off the table”
our government is like an open bar at a shriners hall convention
August 1st, 2007 at 2:59 pmour government is like an open bar at a shriners hall convention
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
a bunch of fat old degenerate white guys passed out and puking in the corners, and not a dime in the till.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:01 pmI still want to know where the goddamn WMDs are.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:01 pmThat was the original justification for going in. Well? Where?
this comment is OT but for those who have not been following the comments on TPM being made by an anonymous poster who is being dubbed the “new deepthroat” it is a definate MUSt READ. His/her information goes to the heart of many of the corrupt practices going on. It’s a lot to read but I have been following his posts since I discovered them on TPM and now a good citizen has done a good job and compiled most of them so they can be followed easier.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:02 pmAnyone who still thinks no War Crimes have been committed or no coverups are occuring or that our country is secure should think again.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/1/101840/7097
I am wary of politicians on either side. I think the best source will be Petraeus but it seems everyone on this site seems to have already dismissed whatever he comes up with. A General would have the Big Picture – not Mike Ware…or any journalist for that matter. If Petraeus comes out with negative news, he will be your hero. If he comes up with a positive report, he is a Bush puppet. I will go on record that if Petraeus comes up with negative news, I will change my views. Can any of you admit to the same?
August 1st, 2007 at 3:02 pmComment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
The overall picture is bleak, but what if, let’s say, the Justice Department’s/WH Council’s rationale is somehow true?
I just don’t want any of you being meat to the trolls (as I am a former one), so it’s good to cover our bases.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:03 pmComment by Juan C — August 1, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
hard to imagine you writing anything that wasn’t relavent…
and your comment proves it again…
the latest callers to ed have been mostly against
August 1st, 2007 at 3:03 pmwhat obama said… mostly women too…
it seems to me they are mistaken about his firm stance
somehow leaving out diplomacy…
obama is all about diplomacy…
but i understand he has to project an image…
that image doesn’t bother me…
…
a bunch of fat old degenerate white guys passed out and puking in the corners, and not a dime in the till.
Just dont let Teddy drive home, especially if there is a river to cross.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:03 pmOu government is like a “blue light special” in Ladies Apparel on half price pantie Tuesday at K-Mart….
a mad dash for snatch and grabbers fighting on the floor for that last purple size 16 crotchless.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:04 pmThe overall picture is bleak, but what if, let’s say, the Justice Department’s/WH Council’s rationale is somehow true?
There is no rationale, just CYA.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:04 pmRUanidiot: He used chemical WMD’s on his own people. 70,000 people died. Here is the link
August 1st, 2007 at 3:05 pmA General would have the Big Picture -
Or, whatever his political handlers in the White House want him to say!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:06 pmbut i understand he has to project an image…
that image doesn’t bother me…
Nice to know you like his image and that image should be more important than substance. Who cares if the guy is lying and pandering, as long as he looks good.
This will come in handy during the debates, Obama can say whatever the hell he wants on every issue and the proletariat can just lap it up…and his suit will be immaculate.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:07 pmEric – and those chemicals had outlived their shelf life, do the frikkin research so you don’t make a bigger idiot out of yourself.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:07 pmWhere are the TP’ers getting their panties in a wad over the comments by Obama attacking Pakistan? When Lieberman makes a comment about Iran, the shark frenzy begins…..when Obama says virtually the same thing…….the crickets are chirping…….typical.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:08 pmEric,
I don’t think anyone is arguing that Saddam didn’t use chemical weapons against the Kurds in 1988. What is being argued is the supposed stockpiles of weapons in 2002 didn’t exist. I don’t know if you noticed the dates on the attack or not I will post it in big bold letters so you can read it easier.
Halabja-March 1988
August 1st, 2007 at 3:09 pmhttp://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
the above is a link to the real info about the Iran Iraq war and the crimes committed.
your link to Halabja is 1988 and the one I posted is also up to 1988.
It shows Rumsfeld shaking Saddams hand in 1983 after a arms deal (probably one of the ones where we sold him materials for the very bomb you link to Eric)
August 1st, 2007 at 3:10 pmEric – I’m an Obama supporter and I’m not happy with his comments today. Honestly there have been several comments made within the past couple of months that I disagree with and have lessened my enthusiasm for him. So no crickets chirping here.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:11 pmWe need the Iraqi government to achieve political benchmarks so they can get on with running their country, so let’s just throw more troops at the problem.†Yeah, that always works!
If the government werent having to deal daily with the savages and all the problems they cause, they would have a better chance of dealing with those benchmarks.
Youre a dope, get back to the crib.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:11 pmSure, the Repugs will denounce Ware’s analysis because it doesn’t fit in with their leaders’ version. After all, someone who has lived there for years, couldn’t possibly know anything more than someone who visited for a week in the green zone, or gets his reports in the White House from sycophants.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:12 pmWare does not politicize his views – but anyone who is contrary to the repugs is automatically a “liberal Democrat” and so they denounce him with a meaningless, fact-less ad hominem attack — so typical. When one can’t debate the issue, attack the person.
Actually I think Obama has somewhat of a point, but is off in the idea we should invade pakistan. A bolstering of US troops along with working with the pakistani troops to root out, and eliminate Bin Laden and Al Qaeda on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border would be the smart move. You remember Bin Laden don’t you you? Tall fellow, wears white, killed 3,000+ on 9/11 by masterminding an attack on the world trade center in New York.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:12 pmWhere are the TP’ers getting their panties in a wad over the comments by Obama attacking Pakistan? When Lieberman makes a comment about Iran, the shark frenzy begins…..when Obama says virtually the same thing…….the crickets are chirping…….typical.
Comment by Eric
Let’s try to explain it to Eric, shall we?
The people currently hiding out in Pakistan are the people who actually attacked this country on 9/11. Those are the people that Obama is referring to, and the Pakistani “allies” are the ones who have failed to root out Al Qaeda in that region.
Iran has not attacked us, not threatened us, and does not have the capacity (even had they a nuclear weapon) to attack US soil. They are not the demons being portrayed by the neocons and the arguments being used are identical to those used to justify invading Iraq. Therefore, Lieberman’s belicosity is just wrong.
Simple enough for you?
August 1st, 2007 at 3:13 pmEric – and those chemicals had outlived their shelf life, do the frikkin research so you don’t make a bigger idiot out of yourself.
Tell you what, there are chem weapons in Russia that have outlived their shelf life; why dont you head over, pop open a barrel and taste some of it.
Its outlived its shelf life so you should be safe, right?
Youre a dope, get back to the crib.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:14 pmThanks for the link Mistress Z~
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
You’re welcome, RUC. It was my first time doing a link with words on it — and it worked. :)
August 1st, 2007 at 3:14 pm#198 – Nachos
Thanks for the link. :)
August 1st, 2007 at 3:14 pmYou wanted proof, you got it. No one in the world on either side of the political spectrum and from every country (except maybe N. Korea and Cuba) was suggesting that all Saddam’s chemical weapons had surpassed their shelf life or wasn’t continuing to produce them. He had stalled the UN for 7 years and was playing cat/mouse with UN investigators. No one knew the truth and he was acting like a mad man. Thank God he was hung.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:15 pmIf the government werent having to deal daily with the savages and all the problems they cause, they would have a better chance of dealing with those benchmarks.
Youre a dope, get back to the crib.
Comment by Clammer of the Shells
A good many members of the government deal daily with the savages, indeed. They “deal” with them by being in cahoots with them.
If they were just so damned stressed out that they couldn’t make any progress, they probably wouldn’t just take a month off.
Get back to your own crib.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:15 pmInteresting point Jesse. I actually have more respect for Obama now so I guess it’s all a matter of perspective.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:17 pmIts outlived its shelf life so you should be safe, right?
Youre a dope, get back to the crib.
Comment by Clammer of the Shell
It’s outlived it’s shelf life meaning that it solidifies and becomes useless as a weapon of mass destruction. it will not disperse in the way it was originally designed to.
Some of the other chemicals and biological agents have deteriated to the point that they are now different chemical compesitions, and they are not dangerous when dispersed as a cloud or vapor.
therefore, once again, the facts don’t back up the claim and you, like this administration, try to use false science to justify a criminal act.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:18 pmThank God he was hung.
Comment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Saddam may have been “hung,” and you may well have been impressed, but Saddam was indeed hanged.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:22 pmYou’re welcome, RUC. It was my first time doing a link with words on it — and it worked. :)
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
That should merit a PHD in WebLinkage!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:22 pmNo one knew the truth and he was acting like a mad man. Thank God he was hung.
Comment by Eric
You know, the “revising history” tactic doesn’t work anymore either. People in our own legislative branch knew it was bunk, 140 of them.
Many other countries passed on the Coalition of the Willing, because they new it was bunk,
and the Downing Street Memo proves that even some of the Coalition members new it ws bunk. and so did this administration.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:23 pmMr P Clammer, why can’t you stick with one name>?
August 1st, 2007 at 3:23 pmWhat is your pathology?
Geez.
That should merit a PHD in WebLinkage!
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
I just got my diploma in the mail. I love Dr Dog’s diploma mill, they are on the ball!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:24 pmIt was just an interim government to temporarilly fool people. Now Bush & Cheney will take over their personal oil reserves, secured with American blood and treasure.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:25 pmhard to imagine you writing anything that wasn’t relavent…
and your comment proves it again…
wow! Thank you, katy.
that image doesn’t bother me…
Comment by katy
I try to imagine what I would feel if the people I am about to vote had that same war-like stance. I would be worry, of course.
Eric: mad man. I havent heard that one in a while. I always picture GWB saying that all over again, like a … well, you know, a mad man. Heh. Nice of you to learn the tricks well.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:25 pmSaddam may have been “hung,†and you may well have been impressed, but Saddam was indeed hanged.
Comment by Zooey
Best Post!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:26 pmIts outlived its shelf life so you should be safe, right?
Comment by Clammer of the Shell
mmmm…another rocket scientist here, folks.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:28 pmSaddam may have been “hung,†and you may well have been impressed, but Saddam was indeed hanged.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
LOL!!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:30 pmZooey. Thanks for catching the English faux pas…..lol. Hanged not hung. I have no information on the latter.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:30 pmSaddam may have been “hung,†and you may well have been impressed, but Saddam was indeed hanged.
Comment by Zooey
Best Post!!!
Comment by Juan C — August 1, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
i second!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:33 pm.
Here’s a good one:
MOSCOW, Russia (AP) — An expedition aimed at strengthening Russia’s claim to much of the oil and gas wealth beneath the Arctic Ocean reached the North Pole on Wednesday, and preparations immediately began for two mini-submarines to drop a capsule containing a Russian flag to the sea floor.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:34 pmLooks like Zooey’s ‘ hung’ reply by overwhelming consensus!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:35 pm“Im still waiting for a cogent answer why its ok for Obama to say he
would invade a sovereign muslim nation to pursue terrorists.”
May I be the first to say: Because Bush did it!!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:40 pmYou do realize that Saddam used the chemical weapons your Saint Ronnie sold him, don’t you?
August 1st, 2007 at 3:40 pmRU – you’re supposed to say, “motion carried, passed”…
or something like that…
time for a break…
August 1st, 2007 at 3:40 pmguess C&L is travelling also… slow there too…
good post up about kennedy and children’s healthcare…
Zooey. Thanks for catching the English faux pas…..lol. Hanged not hung. I have no information on the latter.
Comment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
You appear to have no information on anything. Virtually all of your posts are lies or wrong. Republican, I’m guessing.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:41 pmkaty ~ oops, I forgot my Robert’s rules. Maybe cause Roberts is on vacation???
August 1st, 2007 at 3:42 pmIm not sure if my previous post on this posted, sorry if this is a repeat. I tried to look through and didn’t see it, so Im reposting it. It is a MUST READ.
I hope everyone takes the time to read the compilation of information provided in this diary I link. It is clear the poster is very much “inside the loop” on the accountability investigations. Incredible info. Wonder who it is?Maybe someday we will find out, like the first Deepthroat!
link to the diary
August 1st, 2007 at 3:50 pmhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/1/101840/7097
Juan, katy, margaret, RUC,
Thank you, thank you, I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.
*takes bow*
August 1st, 2007 at 3:50 pmZooey. Thanks for catching the English faux pas…..lol. Hanged not hung. I have no information on the latter.
Comment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
Hey, I’ll take every opportunity I can get to make fun of you!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:52 pmYou can’t believe anything Ware writes. He is a proven and admitted PLAGERISER. Check his early work. Do some homework and get back to me. I’ll be waiting.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:54 pmSaddam may have been “hung,†and you may well have been impressed, but Saddam was indeed hanged.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
…I am now standing at attention (no pun intended) in the office, and am giving Zooey the highly honored, always respected, and recently patented, official DRxJ golf clap!!!!!
well done, miss!
I now humbly bow to your wit and humour!
(and back to work I must go)
August 1st, 2007 at 3:54 pmSaddam may have been “hung,†and you may well have been impressed, but Saddam was indeed hanged.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
There ya go! Good one :-D!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:54 pmSaddam may have been “hung,†and you may well have been impressed, but Saddam was indeed hanged.
Comment by Zooey
Nah, probably had a little one — might explain his complex.
That was funny Zooey!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:55 pmComment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Hahahaha. I do LOVE you guys who change History to suit your own ideology. Yes it’s very, very pathetic but self delusion must be a winner in your book.
Grow up son. You made yourself look like an idiot over Iraq. Men admit their mistakes. Are you a man?
August 1st, 2007 at 3:56 pmNice Link Justice!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:56 pmThe republican snow job on the surge success is so lame. Is there anyone still out there who Cheney still thinks would take him at his word or trust his judgement? Pathetic!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:56 pmIf Saddam was so hung, perhaps we should have searched his tousers for WMD. I hear Lieberman can find a trouser snake in a thicket in under 5 seconds flat.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:57 pmMOSCOW, Russia (AP) — An expedition aimed at strengthening Russia’s claim to much of the oil and gas wealth beneath the Arctic Ocean reached the North Pole on Wednesday, and preparations immediately began for two mini-submarines to drop a capsule containing a Russian flag to the sea floor.
Comment by Menehune — August 1, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Someone should warn the Russians. Once they get to the bottom, they’re liable to find the Bush Admin is already there – sink, sinking, sank sunk, having sunken – going, “Glub… glub… glub…”
On a more serious note, this is disturbing and liable to led to real trouble. I can’t imagine that Bush and Putin didn’t talk about this silliness recently. Wonder if they cut some sort of insiders’ deal?
August 1st, 2007 at 3:58 pmSaddam may have been “hung,†and you may well have been impressed, but Saddam was indeed hanged.
Comment by Zooey
-> Applause from this corner as well. Nicely done!
Hey, I’ll take every opportunity I can get to make fun of you!
Comment by Zooey
-> So many opportunities, so little time. Good luck!
August 1st, 2007 at 3:59 pmI checked Philonius’ blog, and I think the guy needs some serious medication. My only question is what the hell is the PIAPs? did I mess a memo from my Eurpeon Socialist Mastersâ„¢?
August 1st, 2007 at 4:00 pmIt’s time to pour a hot bowl of cheese n’ salsa on our government and get to dippin’!
August 1st, 2007 at 4:01 pmComment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Thanks!
August 1st, 2007 at 4:02 pmThink progress= 40 whining libs thinking the can change the world. WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!to the whining B@st@rds.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:03 pmgreat post walt!
Your intellect regarding discussion and debate is parallel to none!
August 1st, 2007 at 4:05 pm(You are definetly the King of your own world!)
what level of Dungeon and Dragons have you completed, anyway?
Menehun & Republic of Stupidy,
7-9-07
“Canada announced plans Monday to increase its Arctic military presence in an effort to assert sovereignty over the Northwest Passage – a potentially oil-rich region the United States claims is international territory.”
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-na/2007/jul/09/070909151.html
August 1st, 2007 at 4:05 pmOh my….thank you DRxJ, TRoS, CI, and PLC.
*blush*
August 1st, 2007 at 4:06 pmBush likely to claim executive privilege
August 1st, 2007 at 4:08 pmRedstate.org= 400 whining neocolons thinking the can fu(k over the world.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:09 pmwalts a 30th level Neocon chickenhawk.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:10 pmWait, no thinkfast today (as of yet).
That’s a first.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:10 pmComment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Whoa, you got that right!
Nachorama!
August 1st, 2007 at 4:11 pmAnyone else having trouble with the US negotiating with and arming the very same insurgents it has been fighting against?
Might as well go and send $20b of US arms to the country that supplied the financing and the muscle behind 9-11.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:12 pmMissing your Thinkfast fix Nachos? Try Crooks and Liars….
I can’t post the link or the TP police will take my toys away.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:14 pm268 Margaret… I remember that, which is why the Russian seabed grab is so ominous. It makes you realize that the oil industry WANTS global warming. It opens a whole new area for exploration and exploitation. So they magically create more supply by burning what they’ve got.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:14 pmNachorama!
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Mmmm, nachos, chili & cheesie nacho’s with jalapenos, sour cream and chives, Mmmm…
August 1st, 2007 at 4:15 pmMight as well go and send $20b of US arms to the country that supplied the financing and the muscle behind 9-11.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 1, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Uhh, let me guess, the Saudis? Or the Z**nists?
August 1st, 2007 at 4:16 pmWait, no thinkfast today (as of yet).
That’s a first.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
Because TP is traveling to YKos. There’s a thread…
August 1st, 2007 at 4:16 pm275…not to mention the $16b worth of weapons that are simply missing in Iraq. We might have to attack ourselves once we realize that we’re arming the insurgents.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:17 pmUKBristolDave: What are you talking about? I admit the lingustic mistake, but there was no being made a fool of about Iraq. Quite the opposite. I’ve hardly had any disputes on my positions. Please show me where. It’s hard for me to have discussions with socialist Euro-trash types but I’ll hold my nose if you decide to engage intelligently.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:17 pmSure the repugs would want to discredit Michael Ware because he doesn’t parrot the spin thet emanates from the PR room at the White House or the Pentagon. He’s only lived in Iraq for years, so how could he possibly know more than political reporters who advocate their own agenda, and spent a week in the green zone?
August 1st, 2007 at 4:19 pmSo typical of repugs and the trolls here, when they can’t defend their case, they attack the other person.
Actually, what moron would take the word of Bill Kristol or Dick Cheney over the word of Ware? When was the last time either of them was proven right?
I hope the TP plane lands soon so they can post new thread! It’s getting tedious to scroll all the way down here!
August 1st, 2007 at 4:19 pmThere is still no sense of unity. And without America to act as the big baby sitter, this thing is not going to last.â€
I’d agree with that statement. I wouldn’t necessarily refer to the Military as a ‘baby-sitter’ though. But it’s true, there IS no unity….unless you count th fact that we’re hated by both Shia and Sunni alike. We’ve really been a ‘force for good’ over there. Somehow, I have a sense that every time an Amrican is killed by an IED, Sunni and Shia are high-fiving one another, it really brings them together….until we leave the area, then they’re at each other’s throats again. It won’t last….unless we’re there to MAKE it last. We’re supposed to be staying there until the Iraqi’s can ‘govern themselves’….Yet as soon as we leave, the Iraqi gov’t is in bigtrouble, and they know it. So where is the incentive to stand up as a government and for us to leave if we keep tellin them that we’ll stay until they can do it on their own?
A little ‘Tough Love’ is in order. We LEAVE…they’ll get it, eventually. They may fall a few times, skin their governmental knees, if you will, but they WILL get it.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:20 pmI’ve hardly had any disputes on my positions.
The only positions you have are on your knees, dufus.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:21 pmRUC
Im just trying to spread the word, he/she does seem like a good source, but as with everything, I take it with a grain of salt or two.
wish I was going to YKos this year. It will be historical, plus Lallapalooza is there at the same time I think. What more could you ask for, a twon full of progressives, a bunch of candidates giving great speeches plus great music, great food.
If it wasn’t for the dang humidity in Chicago, it’d be perfect.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:23 pmMy chemo ends soon, I will be there with bells on next year!
Mmmm, nachos, chili & cheesie nacho’s with jalapenos, sour cream and chives, Mmmm…
Comment by RUCerious
Nachos, huh? I hadn’t picked up on the change of subject…..almost 300 posts, ya know.
Guess my post makes me a friggin’ buzz-kill.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pmIsrael – $30bn
Egypt – $13bn
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman and UAE – to share $20bn
Source BBC.
All right – got powderkeg, add gasoline, light blue touchpaper…. retire q- oh f*** blew myself up.
And the Iranian response to this will be what, exactly? Change their minds and “Welcome us with flowers…”?
August 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pmThe only positions you have are on your knees, dufus.
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
I never thought Eric was serious with his positions. Isn’t he a parody? :)
August 1st, 2007 at 4:25 pmLet’s Kill More People
Having launched a disastrous war to destroy non-existent weapons in the Middle East, Bush and Rice have now decided that the best solution is to deluge the Middle East in over $60billion dollars worth of weapons.
The distribution is to be done in such a way as especially to reward those countries with very bad human rights records, such as Saudi Arabia, Israel and Egypt.
The biggest recipient will be Israel, who will be further encouraged in their perpetual grabs of Palestinian land. The USA can thus guarantee the continuation of the basic motivator for Islamic terrorists. Saudi Arabia gets the next biggest slice, presumably for helping the CIA spawn Al-Qaida and for providing the bulk of the 9/11 hijackers.
Rice has brilliantly identified that it is Shia Muslims who are the problem, so any Sunni regime can have loads of arms, particularly if it actively persecutes its Shia minority, as Saudi Arabia and Egypt do. As Al-Qaeda have been completely forgotten, the fact they are Sunni is irrelevant. We are on to the next big target of oil now, which is in Shia Iran. So obviously they are the bad guys who need invading.
I bet Bush is surprised by how simple this international relations stuff is turning out to be. Meanwhile Gordon Brown grandstands around the States not cautioning a word against this, bleating out his (I am sure genuine) concern about Africa, trying to raise less money to help there than the US has just decided to spend on more means of death for the Middle East.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:25 pmMmmm, nachos, chili & cheesie nacho’s with jalapenos, sour cream and chives, Mmmm…
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Oh god. Yum….
August 1st, 2007 at 4:26 pmZooey, like most trolls, Eric has an inflated view of his tiny thing.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:27 pmIf he thinks no one’s refuted any of his posts, it’s a wonder he can find a public restroom without help from Mom.
Justice, good luck with the chemo. I lucked out and my lung cancer surgery seems to have done the trick.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:28 pmWhat part of the country are you in??
Zooey, like most trolls, Eric has an inflated view of his tiny thing.
If he thinks no one’s refuted any of his posts, it’s a wonder he can find a public restroom without help from Mom.
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
That must be embarrassing for mom, since he’s 39 years old.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:29 pmThat’s OK, Zooey, he’s still momma’s lil snookums….
August 1st, 2007 at 4:31 pmThat’s OK, Zooey, he’s still momma’s lil snookums….
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
Mama needs to seal up the bung hole of that barrel she keeps him in…
August 1st, 2007 at 4:33 pm180. Why does TP constantly dig up Mike Ware as the Middle East expert?
August 1st, 2007 at 4:35 pm* * *
Because David Halberstam is dead.
222 explains how we ended up with the puppet-boy prez we now have, yet fails to make a point – truly “courageous”…or something
righty, losing again.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:36 pmHey RUanidiot and Zooey. This one was between Eurotrash Bristo Dave and me. Stay out of it……..;)
August 1st, 2007 at 4:36 pmEric, I was ridiculing your statement
I’ve hardly had any disputes on my positions.
Pay attention!
August 1st, 2007 at 4:38 pmHey RUanidiot and Zooey. This one was between Eurotrash Bristo Dave and me. Stay out of it……..;)
Comment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
UKDave can defend himself, believe me. We’re just making fun of your ridiculous positions…..and will continue.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:39 pmMistress Z~
August 1st, 2007 at 4:40 pmDoes Eric suffer from TAD?
Comment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
Yeah, I’m Eurotrash.
So why did the US keep funding the IRA via NOARAID? Why do you support the death of my friend?
August 1st, 2007 at 4:41 pmComment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
How dare you Eric.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:42 pmHey RUanidiot and Zooey. This one was between Eurotrash Bristo Dave and me. Stay out of it……..;)
Comment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
UKDave can defend himself, believe me. We’re just making fun of your ridiculous positions…..and will continue.
Comment by Zooey
Yeah, they are not following your illogic, but making fun of it, heh
Nice try Wayne. You avoid the illogic I present
Comment by Eric — July 31, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
That one stilll cracks me up Eric…….
August 1st, 2007 at 4:46 pmMethinks lil Eric suffers from Troll Attention Deficiency… In the most severe way. I’d feel sorry for him, but, well, nope.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:49 pmThat one stilll cracks me up Eric…….
Comment by Wayne — August 1, 2007 @ 4:46 pm
I saw that last night, and thought I’d give old Eric the benefit of the doubt — being a parody. :-D
August 1st, 2007 at 4:50 pmMethinks lil Eric suffers from Troll Attention Deficiency… In the most severe way. I’d feel sorry for him, but, well, nope.
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
I was going to guess “Terrified and Delusional.” Yours makes more sense. Heh.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:51 pmwhat the hell is the PIAPs
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hil-dawg
August 1st, 2007 at 4:52 pm#
I checked Philonius’ blog, and I think the guy needs some serious medication. My only question is what the hell is the PIAPs? did I mess a memo from my Eurpeon Socialist Masters™?
Comment by Krazny
Took only a little googling: Pig In A Pants Suit. AKA HRC
The blogger, Ralph, apparently trolls other sites such as Media Matters and News Hounds. I think he’s one of our trolls, but not PiPPy who appears in the comments as Konservatron, touting his moronic islamo-stalinist definition.
It’s a very funny blog, but I finally came to the conclusion that it’s not a hoax; Ralph really is insane.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:57 pmWASHINGTON, July 31 — Under pressure from President Bush, Democratic leaders in Congress are scrambling to pass legislation this week to expand the government’s electronic wiretapping powers.
Democratic leaders have expressed a new willingness to work with the White House to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to make it easier for the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on some purely foreign telephone calls and e-mail. Such a step now requires court approval.
It would be the first change in the law since the Bush administration’s program of wiretapping without warrants became public in December 2005.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:58 pmEric is just scared. It’s fair enough. When I was a kidda I was scared as well. The IRA were trying to blow me up. I learnt that being a man was all about standing up to it. It’s new to Eric. He has to learn to stand up, not be scared and be counted.
Shout out Eric son. You’ll learn.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:58 pmIt would be the first change in the law since the Bush administration’s program of wiretapping without warrants became public in December 2005.
Comment by nully — August 1, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
The Dems caved in….surprise…
August 1st, 2007 at 5:01 pmI think we’ve veered off-topic.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:02 pmSuddenly They’re All for Impeachment…of Gonzales
For the past year, as the impeachable crimes of President Bush and Vice President Cheney have mounted, Democratic members of Congress have scrambled to present a whole array of explanations for why they can’t support impeachment.
Chief among these has been the argument that “we don’t have the votes to convict†in the Senate. This has been closely followed by the argument that impeachment would “take too much time†and that it would “divert attention from the important legislative work†of the Democrats in Congress. Right behind this, and linked to it, has been the argument that “the important thing is ending the Iraq War,†and that “impeachment would interfere with that goal.†Then there has been the argument that impeachment would be “divisive†and that the voters want the Congress to “work constructively†on the nation’s problems. Finally, there has been the argument that impeachment is not necessary because Congress under the Democrats would be conducting “investigations†that would serve the same purpose of impeachment in rooting out the administration’s wrongdoings.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:03 pmThe Progressive Government – coming (back) in January 2009.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:04 pmDemocratic leaders have expressed a new willingness to work with the White House to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to make it easier for the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on some purely foreign telephone calls and e-mail. Such a step now requires court approval.
Comment by nully
Yeah I posted a link to the rawstory page on this at 118 I think
WTF is up with the Democrats, instead of inforcing the law and railing against the violations of the Constitution, they are going to pull a Spector and kneel to Bush and wash his balls?
What party is Pelosi in again?????
August 1st, 2007 at 5:04 pmWhat party is Pelosi in again?????
Comment by Wayne — August 1, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
The Party of the Unemployed — election day.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:07 pmYou do realize that Saddam used the chemical weapons your Saint Ronnie sold him, don’t you?
Comment by MD
What?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:08 pmComment by Eric
looks like my post is at 120 now, disappearing and reapearing posts today, weird LOL
August 1st, 2007 at 5:08 pmI think we’ve veered off-topic.
Comment by On
Well, somebody had inside intel info about Hussein´s anatomy.
Guess you cant use doubles that easily.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:09 pmHussein´s apparatus.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pmIt looks like Eric high-tailed it.
Chickenshit.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pmComment by Wayne — August 1, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
It looks as if it’s time to push the progressive party into real effect.
Hey, even genuine progressive candidates like you could run!
August 1st, 2007 at 5:11 pmI should have noted that the comment is from Ralph in response to someone else’s comment on his blog.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:11 pmShout out Eric son. You’ll learn.
Comment by UKBristolDave
Hey, could you give me links about the IRA-London conflict? Some overview, perhaps? I mean, besides wiki. Thanks.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:11 pmComment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
Unless Pelosi shapes up, Sheehan should kick her as*!
I’ve always thought Sheehan to be a sweet, intelligent and kind lady.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:14 pmHey, could you give me links about the IRA-London conflict? Some overview, perhaps? I mean, besides wiki. Thanks.
Comment by Juan C
Not to preempt our resident Brit, but here’s a start: http://tinyurl.com/2hur9h
I think it’s a pretty good piece from the BBC. UKBristolDave may not agree.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:14 pmKrazny, there is that word again from your missed memo:
THEY WANT AMERICA TO LOSE AND PIAPS AND THE TERRORISTS TO WIN!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 5:14 pmNot scared…..have to earn money……..in sales, time is money. If I were a liberal welfare recipient I’d have more time. Scared of 40 some odd libs on a website….what’s to be scared about?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:14 pmComment by gummitch — August 1, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
Wow, I wish I was as switched on as you.
Jesus H freaking Christ…Stop making a fool of yourself.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:15 pmComment by gummitch — August 1, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
I see where Mr Pee got his “style.”
August 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pmThanks, gummitch!!
August 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pmJesus H freaking Christ…Stop making a fool of yourself.
Comment by UKBristolDave
gummitch just copied a troll post. # 332 It is not his doing.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:17 pmI’ve always thought Sheehan to be a sweet, intelligent and kind lady.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
Oh please. I’m gonna puke.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:17 pmWow, I wish I was as switched on as you.
Jesus H freaking Christ…Stop making a fool of yourself.
Comment by UKBristolDave
WTF?
Maybe you should read the post a little more carefully.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:17 pmComment by Eric — August 1, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
Exactly. What are you scared about? I don’t understand it. Us libs understand that a society is only as strong as it’s weakest link. So lets make the weakest link stonger.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:19 pmTHEY WANT AMERICA TO LOSE AND PIAPS AND THE TERRORISTS TO WIN!!!!!
Comment by Juan C — August 1, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
I looked it up Juan, it is a reference to Hillary Clinton, it stands for Pig In A Pantsuit. Funny how the great big he-men are afraid of women.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:19 pmComment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Huh?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:20 pmNot scared…..have to earn money……..in sales, time is money.
Comment by Eric
keep those burgers flipping Eric….
I have a bug to find in some code, you know for that JOB I have that you call liberal welfare. hahaha
please entertain us with more of your illogic =)
August 1st, 2007 at 5:22 pmComment by Krazny
Thanks for the research, Krazny. Thank goodness progressives are less lazy than I am.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:24 pmComment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
I am no longer a troll, but Mr. P is still an asset to TP. He is still the most intelligent of trolls.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:26 pmNot to preempt our resident Brit, but here’s a start: http://tinyurl.com/2hur9h
I think it’s a pretty good piece from the BBC. UKBristolDave may not agree.
Comment by gummitch — August 1, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
BBC is a fine source, I see no issues with using it. While on we’re on the subject of US sponsoring terrorism, can we add the Contras and Luis Posada Carilles to the list?
Pop quiz – first person to use chemical weapons in Iraq was who?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:29 pmMr. P is still an asset to TP. He is still the most intelligent of trolls.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Except when he’s trying to claim Saudis aren’t Moslems. Then, he’s kinda funny, but not in a good way, for him.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:29 pmMr. P is still an asset to TP. He is still the most intelligent of trolls.
Whaaa? When he’s not flipping out in one of his eighteen different personas???
August 1st, 2007 at 5:30 pm….Pig In A Pantsuit. Funny how the great big he-men are afraid of women.
Comment by Krazny — August 1, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Progressive/liberal men are not afraid of women. That’s why we love them.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:31 pmComment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 1, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
Well, sure. You have a good point there.
Good blessings, TRoS.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:32 pmApologies if someone already posted this – it captures the WTF of US foreign policy for this week:
http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_m_z/mark_steel/article2823071.ece
August 1st, 2007 at 5:34 pmProgressive/liberal men are not afraid of women. That’s why we love them.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
And we’re not afraid to be ‘hung’ for what we believe…..
August 1st, 2007 at 5:35 pmI am no longer a troll, but Mr. P is still an asset to TP. He is still the most intelligent of trolls.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
What has changed your opinion of Cindy Sheehan? Why? What was your thought process?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:35 pmAnd we’re not afraid to be ‘hung’ for what we believe…..
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 1, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
What a relief…. :D
August 1st, 2007 at 5:36 pmDEATH TO THE PIAPS-JIHADI ALLIANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH-
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH-
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH-
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August 1st, 2007 at 5:36 pmWhile on we’re on the subject of US sponsoring terrorism, can we add the Contras and Luis Posada Carilles to the list?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
A shady one: Shin Bet (CIA) blows up a car in Lebanon in 1982 killing 80 and wounding 256.
KLA supported by the CIA kills 2000 people, Newsweek publishes a photo of a thin man behind a barbwire and NATO bombs killing thousands.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:36 pmI’m a turtle, I’m reduced to guessing.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:37 pmI am no longer a troll, but Mr. P is still an asset to TP. He is still the most intelligent of trolls. Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
That’s like saying he’s the least irritating venereal disease – he’s still VD…
August 1st, 2007 at 5:37 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Look, it’s f*cking Ralph. *yawn*
August 1st, 2007 at 5:38 pmRUC
don’t know if you will see this way down here! I’m in the prettiest spot in the universe, the prettiest town in coastal central Ca. How about you?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:38 pmCongratulations on the surgery! Hope you are feeling GOOD.
Im just about done and things are looking up. I bet a lot of us who post here are coping with one health issue or another. It’s been great to be able to use the “down time” by educating myself here and elsewhere. Gotta love these toobz!
Meanwhile, in Pakistan
off the AP wire
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, already battling surging violence and a political crisis of his own making, got more bad news Wednesday from a rare public opinion poll in Pakistan.
Support for Musharraf, a key U.S. ally in the fight against terrorism, has plummeted this year and almost two-thirds of respondents said he should quit, according to the poll by the International Republican Institute, a Washington-based group that has Republican lawmakers and officials among its directors and senior staff.
Another think tank, the Brussels-based International Crisis Group, warned separately on Wednesday that Musharraf’s apparent determination to hold onto power “at all costs” could result in spiraling violence and fuel Islamic radicalism.
That’ll earn him a laurel and hearty Bush kiss, and a heckuva job Pervey!
August 1st, 2007 at 5:39 pmI’m a turtle, I’m reduced to guessing.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 1, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
I’m sorry for being so insensitive. ;)
August 1st, 2007 at 5:40 pmJustice, what town? I spent 10 years in Santa Barbara, and know Pismo, Arroyo Grande et al real well>
August 1st, 2007 at 5:41 pmI’m northeast of Seattle about 20 miles…
Mr. P is still an asset to TP. He is still the most intelligent of trolls.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Except when he’s trying to claim Saudis aren’t Moslems. Then, he’s kinda funny, but not in a good way, for him.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 1, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
Or when he claimed that Russia was a muslim republic…
August 1st, 2007 at 5:42 pmI’m a turtle, I’m reduced to guessing.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 1, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
DO YOU ALL SEE!?!?!?
DEMLIBS CAN’T EVEN THINK A COHERENT THOUGHT AND TtT JUST PROVED IT AGAIN!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
YOUR PARTY HAS NO IDEAS!!!!!!
R O T F L M A O!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pmBut the biggest mystery is the official reason given for handing over this $60b fortune to Egypt and Saudi Arabia – that, according to Zalmay Khalilzad, US ambassador to the United Nations, it’s because “Saudi Arabia and others are not doing all they can to help us in Iraq”.
I’ve done nothing to help the US in Iraq, can I my Abrams delivered by Fedex by the weekend, please. Hello,.. Mr Gates?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pmSo our Eric is in sales. Timeshares to federal prison inmates?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pmOr when he claimed that Russia was a muslim republic…
Comment by Luis M — August 1, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
Wow. Mr P is losing it.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:44 pmAnd along comes Phonylonius and proves our point in bold!
August 1st, 2007 at 5:44 pmSuddenly They’re All for Impeachment…of Gonzales
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Comment by nully — August 1, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
i’ll take it… it’s a good start…
i’m trying to stay optomistic…
August 1st, 2007 at 5:44 pmdid you read my comment at the traveling thread?
i think we need to keep up the presure…
…
Timeshares to federal prison inmates?
Comment by RUCerious
OMG!! Thats so funny!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmI’ve done nothing to help the US in Iraq, can I my Abrams delivered by Fedex by the weekend, please. Hello,.. Mr Gates?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 1, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
I’d like my four humvees ready to pick up at Fort Lewis by the weekend, please.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmComment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
I’ve never had a negative opinion of Cindy Sheehan. I’ve never posted anything negative about her.
I have read many of her postings, her letters, and it never appeared to me that she was out there using her son’s death for political gain. That’s not her train of thought.
There, that’s my train of thought.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmProgressive/liberal men are not afraid of women. That’s why we love them.
Comment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
and why I love them back. hehe
August 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pmI want to go ‘off-roading’ this weekend.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pmYOUR PARTY HAS NO IDEAS!!!!!!
R O T F L M A O!!!!
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
And you haven’t a clue.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pmthe prettiest town in coastal central Ca. How about you?
hows Santa Cruz?
Seattle Wa, here beautiful day.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:48 pmJust kidding, Terry. I know you have a good sense of humour.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:49 pmUh oh. KKKarl just called with an offer to rejoin the faculty….
What should I say?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:53 pmI lived in Santa Cruz for years and nobody considered it to be “coastal central CA.” Everyone there thought of it as Northern California. Most of us commuted “over the hill” every day to Silicon Valley, which is definitely Northern California.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:56 pmWelcome to the Land of Wingnuttia .
August 1st, 2007 at 5:57 pmNoJ
August 1st, 2007 at 5:57 pmtell him to confess fully to the nearest congressional committee and offer to testify at Bush and Cheney’s impeachment trial.
Col Jack, ever go clamming for Pismo Clams???
August 1st, 2007 at 5:59 pmJust kidding, Terry. I know you have a good sense of humour.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
Never heard of you. Maybe you are some shape-shitfer…?
August 1st, 2007 at 6:01 pmI lived in Santa Cruz for years and nobody considered it to be “coastal central CA.†Everyone there thought of it as Northern California. Most of us commuted “over the hill†every day to Silicon Valley, which is definitely Northern California.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
“Coastal central CA” makes me think of San Luis Obispo. But if you look at a map, it’s more accurate to call Santa Cruz central than “north”. I mean northern california is Eureka and Crescent City.
But what do I know? I lived in the Central Valley as a teenager and Berkeley years later. Berkeley isn’t northern california, it’s Berkeley. Or at most, the East Bay. The rest of the state doesn’t count.
:-)
August 1st, 2007 at 6:01 pmthe prettiest town in coastal central Ca. How about you?
hows Santa Cruz?
Seattle Wa, here beautiful day.
Comment by Krazny — August 1, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
Yup it is. The Turtle reports likewise from the NW this week. Maybe we should do a Starbucks wi-fi session? You’ll find me easy to spot – I’m the green one with flippers.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pmI had the unfortunate experience of living in the puckered butthole of humanity (Los Angeles) for a year. Loved it north into Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Big Sur and Santa Cruz though.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pmJust to remind everyone. Tucker is a snivelling little punk.
Here’s how he describes Obama’s speech today: Obama is more of a neocon than any neocon. He is parroting Bush, and stealing lines from Bush speeches.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pm#253: “Im still waiting for a cogent answer why its ok for Obama to say he
would invade a sovereign muslim nation to pursue terrorists.â€
May I be the first to say: Because Bush did it!!
Comment by J — August 1, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
LOL! Good one!
August 1st, 2007 at 6:05 pmI’m the green one with flippers.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 1, 2007 @ 6:03 pm
….and hung like a turtle. :{
August 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pmRUC
In SB, in town near the Daily Grind.
Flew into Seattle for an art class once, what an insanely beautiful view that is on a clear day!
August 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pmComment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
I said I would call him back, but he joked briefly about “authority” and “his math” and how congressional committees were “chatty hour.”
The call ended when he claimed that impeachment would have to be conducted “their way.”
Hope that clears everything up.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pmTT ~ Work anywhere near Issaquah?
August 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pmFlew into Seattle for an art class once, what an insanely beautiful view that is on a clear day!
Comment by Justice
Best seen in the dead of winter, IMO, on one of those startling crystal clear days, with the snowy Olympic mountains on the west, the snowy Cascades to the east, and water water everywhere.
It was even prettier back in the late 70s, before the huge building boom downtown.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:09 pmNever heard of you. Maybe you are some shape-shitfer…?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 1, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
What the heck is a shape-shitfer? Is it in anyway related to a Scheiße spitzer?
August 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pmBest way to drive into seattle is along the old viaduct on the waterfront. you can see the Olympics, the Sound, the ferry’s, Downtown, on Mt. Rainier on a clear day.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pmWhat the heck is a shape-shitfer? Is it in anyway related to a Scheiße spitzer?
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 1, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
I hope so….
August 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmWhat the heck is a shape-shitfer? Is it in anyway related to a Scheiße spitzer?
Comment by WaltTheMan
Never heard of someone with shitfer brains?
August 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pm….and hung like a turtle. :{
Comment by Zooey —
Now that was cold, Zooey.
Poor Terry only drops by every now and again, and that’s the welcome he gets?
Issaquah – one of my sisters lived there for a time. Never got out there. Is it nice?
(I went along the coast from Seattle to San Diego once, so I’m assuming it’s more inland.)
August 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pmNever heard of you. Maybe you are some shape-shitfer…?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 1, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
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August 1st, 2007 at 6:17 pmMy old name cannot be written any longer…. it is a shame.
My old name cannot be written any longer…. it is a shame.
Comment by Philonous
It was because of shameful behavior, PiPPy. Take a little responsibility.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:18 pmThis “progressive” schtick is quite boring.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmBerkeley isn’t northern california, it’s Berkeley. Or at most, the East Bay.
Comment by gummitch — August 1, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
that made me laugh…
visited twice while my son was in grad school there…
it’s it’s own universe, for sure… in a mostly good way…
so much is still stuck in the 60s though…
maybe that’s just what the tourist sees though…
wonderful weather!
he is now at cal tech, pasadena… i hate the heat…
August 1st, 2007 at 6:19 pmwhen is the best time to visit?
i’m thinking the rose parade will be a must see…
…
#406 – trueblue
Start reading here. :)
August 1st, 2007 at 6:20 pmComment by gummitch — August 1, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
Well, it was also because of Demlibs and their false accusations.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:20 pmDemocrats don’t want a positive report in Iraq…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/30/AR2007073001380_pf.html
House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Monday that a strongly positive report on progress on Iraq by Army Gen. David Petraeus likely would split Democrats in the House and impede his party’s efforts to press for a timetable to end the war.
What kind of scum are these people!
August 1st, 2007 at 6:21 pmI’ve accepted Mr. Rove’s offer.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:21 pmHouse Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Monday that a strongly positive report on progress on Iraq by Army Gen. David Petraeus likely would split Democrats in the House and impede his party’s efforts to press for a timetable to end the war.
What kind of scum are these people!
Comment by m12
True, the blue dog Democrats are a pain in the butt, too stupid to comprehend how they were sucked into the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:26 pmEric I noticed you havednt said anything in reponse to the Tp’er who pointed out that the only WMD saddam ever had was sold to him by Reagan and Rumsfeld.. you HAVE seen then picture of Rumsfeld and Saddam shaking hands, right? What do you think they were sealing a deal for, cookies? hahahah
the question was, did Saddam have any WMD’s other than the useless ones we sold him long ago?
August 1st, 2007 at 6:27 pmA question to all the anti Michael Ware folks,
August 1st, 2007 at 6:27 pmWho would you believe,
Michael Ware ot the V.P.
We all know, that when the V.P’s lips are moving,
he is not telling the truth.
I’ve accepted Mr. Rove’s offer.
Comment by CT_ Version 2 — August 1, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
Thank God!
Good to have you back, I’ve been busy doing a take-home final exam but I feel better now, knowing that The Troll ™ is alive and well here at TP.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:28 pmKaty,
Pasadena is great in the winter mostly, around 75º very sunny, really pleasant, not so much in the summer though.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:28 pmThis “progressive†schtick is quite boring.
Comment by Nachos of Justice — August 1, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
Think for yourself, Nachos, but DO THINK.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:28 pmDang!….You fools really do need interns, this thread has at the top all day.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:29 pmGotcha, Zooey.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:29 pmWhat the heck is a shape-shitfer? Is it in anyway related to a Scheiße spitzer?
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 1, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
Well, it started out as a ’shape-shifter’, then I noticed the typo and then I thought better about correcting it…… ‘-brains’
Issaquah – been there to MS test labs several times. I’m further north this week – not far from where the buggers build the big planes. Not that I’m bothered about how big their planes are, you understand.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:30 pmDemocrats don’t want a positive report in Iraq…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 07/ 30/ AR2007073001380_pf.html
House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Monday that a strongly positive report on progress on Iraq by Army Gen. David Petraeus likely would split Democrats in the House and impede his party’s efforts to press for a timetable to end the war.
What kind of scum are these people!
Comment by m12 — August 1, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
Positive Report = Propaganda
The War Machine lies to get Robots and Sheep to believe them.
For instance:
Gulf of Tonkin
Iraqi soldiers taking scores of babies from incubators
hundreds of thousands of Iraqi troops being amassed near the Saudi border.
“mass genocide” in Kosovo.
brutality of, the U.S. invasion of Panama.
Saddam Hussein’s “Weapons of Mass Destruction” programs.
true source of the information it presented to the UN to justify the current war.
The Vietnam War itself
August 1st, 2007 at 6:30 pm> Democrats don’t want a positive report in Iraq…
because it would be a lie.
this “surge” is supposed to give the political process time to work, right?
then if our boys are dying to give them time to reconcile politically, why did they just take a monthlong break?
Petraeus is a stooge.. every general from Shineski and beyond who told the truth about iraq has been relieved of duty… they are trying to run out the clock and hand this clusterf#ck to the next administration,which will almost certainly be democractic…
hey bowel movement 1-2, name ONE thing Patraeus disagrees with this administration about, regarding iraq…
August 1st, 2007 at 6:31 pmRUC: “Col Jack, ever go clamming for Pismo Clams???”
Yes, but Pismo Beach is a good three hours south of Santa Cruz; 6 hours if you take the Coast Hwy. Now, that’s what I call coastal Central CA no matter what the map looks like.
m12: “What kind of scum are these people!”
F*ck off, a-hole! You couldn’t find a clue if it was pasted to your tiny forehead.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pmTo those not initiated, a Scheiße Spitzer is a means to spread “composted” (usually pig) manure in German tree-fruit fields from a device being towed behind a tractor. My three sons had their first exposure to the process when we drove to our rental home in rural Weil im Schoenbuch (Which means “Because of the beaultiful woods”). Oldest son said, it smells like Scheiße.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pmGotcha, Zooey.
Comment by trueblue — August 1, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
I guess it was your turn. :)
August 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pmDang!….You fools really do need interns, this thread has at the top all day.
Comment by Ringo — August 1, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
P_ss off poseur!
August 1st, 2007 at 6:33 pm#420 – Ringo
Dumbass.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:33 pmComment by Zooey — August 1, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
Zooey,
You do know that it is perfectly correct to say “hung,” right? For it is the past participle of the word “hang.”
Your comment to Eric was Lefty-know-it-all sophistry.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:36 pmTo those not initiated, a Scheiße Spitzer is a means to spread “composted†(usually pig) manure in German tree-fruit fields from a device being towed behind a tractor. My three sons had their first exposure to the process when we drove to our rental home in rural Weil im Schoenbuch (Which means “Because of the beaultiful woodsâ€). Oldest son said, it smells like Scheiße.
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 1, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
You could bring this one back on to the thread track by drawing the obviously analogy, Walt….
August 1st, 2007 at 6:36 pmthanks krazny… i suppose the rose parade is crazy, but
as i’m an avid flower gardener, i’m afraid i’d have to try it once…
while he’s there…
the house he’s rented does not have AC…
August 1st, 2007 at 6:38 pmugh… i could not survive…
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
It’s proper English to use the word “hanged.”
I guess you’d know all about being a know-it-all, wouldn’t you?
August 1st, 2007 at 6:38 pmPhilonous: “Your comment to Eric was Lefty-know-it-all sophistry.”
As opposed to righty don’t-know-your-ass-from-a-hole-in-the-ground sophistry.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:39 pmHey Ringding
they are all enroute to YKos
They will be back soon enough LIVE from YKos.
Can’t wait
August 1st, 2007 at 6:41 pmAs opposed to righty don’t-know-your-ass-from-a-hole-in-the-ground sophistry.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 1, 2007 @ 6:39 pm
Points for the Colonel!
August 1st, 2007 at 6:41 pmHanged means “executed by hanging.”
Hung means “suspended” otherwise.
Both are past tenses or past participles of the verb to hang, but each applies to specific cases.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:41 pmPhilonous -Mr President
[The First Muppet among equal Muppets]
Your a complete dope. You talk about ‘your side has no ideas’. I have no ’side’, first off. So, lets talk about great ‘ideas’ of your ’side’ [since you like sides] PNAC. Project for a New American Century to solve the middle east problem after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
They wanted regime change, but ended up only ousting Saddam.
They wanted Democracy in the middle east to solve the ME problem and now Shiites and Sunnis have backed out.
They wanted hegemony and full spectrum dominance.
Yet everything that has been accomplished in the last twenty years by Republicans and Democrats is coming undone.
The PNAC plan was poorly executed. Democracy in Iraq is looking like it aint gonna happen. Kim Jong IL built a nuke and got free oil. The reconstruction in Iraq is going nowwhere. The Cold war with Russia is re-igniting. The middle east has become destabilized [balance of power] and now to fix all the bad planning and bad ideas by your ’side’ we are going to spend nearly 100 billion [stealing your coveted income tax. in an arms giveaway in the region]
Mr P’s ‘idea’ of ideas. We screwed up royally and wasted billions of your tax dollars. Don’t worry, we have an ‘idea’ we wil waste more hundreds of billions of your tax dollars and restabilize the region with billions of dollars in arms to those mad muslims in the middle east.
One helluva great ‘idea’ Philonous. One feck up after another after another. And the cure? [I am reminded of that King Arthur commercial here] The cure is to simply throw billions more dollars into the middle east AND spend billions more for the new Cold War.
Your side has no ‘ideas’ Philonous. It was just one huge F_ck Up.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:42 pmOHFU
Comment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
Thank you, Candyce. :)
August 1st, 2007 at 6:43 pmYour comment to Eric was Lefty-know-it-all sophistry.
Comment by Philonous
It is called proper English.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:44 pmSomething you are obviously not familiar with.
Hey Col, gotta thank you for the great belly laugh I had on that one!
too funny
August 1st, 2007 at 6:46 pmour comment to Eric was Lefty-know-it-all sophistry.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
And one of the funniest moments on TP since that day we nailed Mr P for his Saudis remark. I’m still giggling about the Saddam “hung/hanged” routine.
Points for Zooey! Clean kill. No catch-and-release on THAT one.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:46 pm…but each applies to specific cases.
Comment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
And in this case, it’s a direct hit! KA-BOOM!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pmThis is what we’re dealing with in the land of Mr. P, courtesy of Michael Savage:
Am I to believe that there’s no connection between Charles Schumer on Friday saying that he would never appoint, or never, excuse me, approve another Bush appointment to the court, to any court? And then the chief justice suffers a so-called seizure two days later? You’re telling me there’s no possibility of a conspiracy by the Democrats to have caused this seizure in some manner? Tell me that it’s not possible. Tell me that the stakes are not so high that the liberals — who’ve finally lost the court after 50 years — that they would stop short of anything like this. Tell me it’s not possible, and I’ll tell you you’re a liar.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:49 pmPoints for Zooey! Clean kill. No catch-and-release on THAT one.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 1, 2007 @ 6:46 pm
I’m here to serve all your giggle needs. ;)
August 1st, 2007 at 6:49 pmComment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Oh for heaven’s sake. That just insane — considering the source right now.
The docs said they couldn’t find a cause for Roberts’ seizure, meaning if the Dems had put something in Roberts’ morning Ovaltine, they would have found something.
This is the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS — they looked.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pmHanged means “executed by hanging.â€
Hung means “suspended†otherwise.
Both are past tenses or past participles of the verb to hang, but each applies to specific cases.
Comment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
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Exactly! Which proves my point, for one must be hung (suspended) in order to be “hanged” (executed by hanging). Duh!
So Zooey’s comment was nothing but Lefty-know-it-all sophistry.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pmAnd the funny thing about the Savage Weiner is that when Coulter “joked” that someone should put arsnic in Justice Stevens’ dessert, the Weiner had no problems.
But, it does beg the question: just how would have Dems in congress “caused a seizure?” Do they have super powers?
August 1st, 2007 at 6:54 pmComment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
You are being deliberately obtuse.
Hanged means “executed by hanging.â€
Hung means “suspended†otherwise.
Idiot.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:55 pmComment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
It’s true, I said something along those lines the other day when it happened.
Who is this “Michael Savage” guy? He sounds pretty smart!
August 1st, 2007 at 6:55 pmWho is this “Michael Savage†guy? He sounds pretty smart!
Comment by Philonous
Forest Gump would sound smart to you, sheesh.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:58 pmPhilonious, wrong. The past tense or passive used is dependent on the case. Here’s a little hint for you that will help you in the future.
Objects are hung.
People are hanged.
Indeed, one can hang a picture or hang a criminal. But the past tense or passive is different.
Use hanged when referring to executions or suicides.
He was hanged at dawn.
He hanged himself from the ceiling.
Use hung for all other hanging actions.
AP Stylebook is your friend.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:58 pmhey Katy
we share not only our name (Im a Katie too) but my son just graduated from Berkeley, headed back for grad school now!
August 1st, 2007 at 7:01 pmAP Stylebook is your friend.
Comment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
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Well there you have it!!!
Everyone knows that the AP Stylebook has a liberal bias!!!
(okay, I gotta get back to my test, I’ll be the fly in your ointment when I’m done)
August 1st, 2007 at 7:02 pm(okay, I gotta get back to my test, I’ll be the turd in your punchbowl when I’m done)
Comment by Philonous
Here, fixed it for you.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:04 pmWhat about Bishop Berkeley?
August 1st, 2007 at 7:04 pmComment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
… savage… holy crap…
and i thought malloy was out there… at least he deals with facts…
August 1st, 2007 at 7:05 pmsavage is just a lyin’ loon…
…
Forest Gump would sound smart to you, sheesh.
Comment by Wayne
shhh. Be vewwy, vewwy quiet. I’m trollin’ for trolls and I caught a big one.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pm(okay, I gotta get back to my test, I’ll be the fly in your ointment when I’m done)
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
He’s studying for a urine test, so he can get a job at the Piggly Wiggly.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pmglad to meet you, justice (aka katie)… another berkeley mom!
i’m in illinois… so i was an ILLINI mom first, and always…
August 1st, 2007 at 7:11 pmx 2 kids…
Philonius: “Who is this “Michael Savage†guy? He sounds pretty smart!”
Michael Savage, AKA, Michael Weiner, is a former Maoist who, steeped in self-loathing because of his homosexual tendencies, quit the communist front to become a seller of food additives and suspicious new-age health concepts. He then became a hard-right wing radio screamer. His biggest chance for fame and biggest screw up came when he ruined his MSNBC television gig by yelling at a gay man that he hoped he would “get AIDS and die.” The telly people fired him over that little outburst. Of course there’s still a great audience among the misanthropic, self-loathing listeners of right wing talk radio for his kind of hate-filled bile. I’m sure he’s on a station within your radio’s grasp. Check him out. I think you really will like him.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:12 pm(okay, I gotta get back to my test, I’ll be the fly in your ointment when I’m done)
Comment by Philonous
Git Yer tallywhacker ovt the Peter Pan Fvpid VeetKes
August 1st, 2007 at 7:12 pmshhh. Be vewwy, vewwy quiet. I’m trollin’ for trolls and I caught a big one.
Comment by Candyce
LMAO
August 1st, 2007 at 7:14 pmThere are Piggly Wiggly’s there?
August 1st, 2007 at 7:14 pmHe’s studying for a urine test, so he can get a job at the Piggly Wiggly.
Comment by Zooey
ha!! Well done!
August 1st, 2007 at 7:17 pmSo Zooey’s comment was nothing but Lefty-know-it-all sophistry.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
So your comment was know-nothing right-wing know-it-all caught with your pants down, lie to avoid being embarrassed right wing wanna-be sophistry. In otherwords – you’re a poser. You’re yet another dumb little poser – like the rest of your right wing friends.
Get a real education, learn something, and don’t be so afraid of being wrong. You are most of the time, so just get used to it.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:21 pmBush’s Enablers
In laymens terms, it’s simply called Kissing Butt amd butt kissers we do not need.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:21 pmFurry, Y meant to fpell consufion not consufe.
Mi Vad.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:23 pm*
August 1st, 2007 at 7:23 pmA Few Things We’ve Been
Wondering About Lately
.
…funny…
He’s studying for a urine test, so he can get a job at the Piggly Wiggly.
Comment by Zooey
hahaha
“And the piss turned blue!! and I was real skeered cause I ain’t never seen blue piss before” — Richard Pryor.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:25 pmLarry King is very well suspended.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:26 pmHmmmmm. Arming Sunnis in Iraq and planning to sell arms to the Saudis. Sounds like we’re one step closer to the Pan-muslim war he hopes will start as soon as the Dems pull our troops out.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:29 pmwhere is the nearest Piggly Wiggly?
August 1st, 2007 at 7:33 pmY em hebing fv mvk svn wyth mi naw lengvege
vweheheheheh!
Gad Vleff tha AP ftyla buuch!
August 1st, 2007 at 7:34 pmJonah Goldberg supports politeia.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:35 pm“Unfortunately, our diplomats, ie Rice, are simply absent from the discussion.
Comment by Candyce”
You used the words “diplomat” and “Rice” in the same sentence. Are you sure you meant to do that?
August 1st, 2007 at 7:52 pm“that OBAMA quote is all over the news… well, XM left…
listening to ed schultz, he’s all over it, loving it…”
Really, and the right is going to have a hard time dissing Obama for what he said because if they did, they would look like the giant hypocrites they are.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:54 pmThis idea then showed
up in the previously mentioned Rice-Zelikow document, The
National Security Strategy of the United States of America
for 2002, which brazenly said: “The events of September 11,
2001 opened vast, new opportunities.â€
rice as diplomat
August 1st, 2007 at 7:55 pm“I have only ever seen one incident of a person literally ROTFL and they were super stoned.”
Oh, so we’ve met!
August 1st, 2007 at 7:57 pm“decisions decisions decisions. to censure free speech or not to. that is the question.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb “
Chill Lee. I doubt that TP is censoring you. They are having problems with postings, though. And, if you post something with one of their banned swear words in it, you will never see it.
You want to be censored, go to redstate.com or some other right wing website and see how long you last if you don’t agree with what they have to say. With me and redstate.com it was a little over an hour.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:00 pmAt least Obama actually WANTS to get Osama.
Chimpy let him get away at least twice.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:01 pmThe need for a guest emcee when the TP regulars are off on a field trip is demonstrated by this item: “Attorney General Alberto Gonzales conceded Wednesday he used confusing language when describing national security efforts during recent Senate testimony, seeking to set the record straight about the government’s terror surveillance program and clear questions about his credibility.” – in other words, he lied, and used the rest period of the progressive blogs create a virtual Friday afternoon.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:03 pmJust like to say a nonpartisan prayer for my fellow Minnesotans caught by the bridge collapse in Minneapolis. It doesnt look good and there are sure to be quite a few dead.
Hang in there, youre in Minnesota after all and we look after our own.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:05 pmwell, bilbo; I did mention in the following post that the one that I was looking for had been put back up.
But, interestingly enough, when I left and came back later, it was gone. When I hit refresh, it was back.
I understand that curse words and certain personal attacks have to be omitted, but that was not what was in my post.
which, by the way, is gone again (139. about defense capabilities of Pentagon and air corridor.)
So, you’re wrong… that post is gone right now.
But after I post this, maybe it will mysteriously show back up.
Lets see.
Whats funny is that you would go all the way back some 300 posts to find one thing I said, and then bring that up now.
almost as if you might be an administrator.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:09 pmIf your post was about 9-11 truth, it was deleted by the NSA.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:14 pmObama knows what to do
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070801/01obama.htm
In a foreign policy address, he has the guts to call it like it is. The real enemy, the one that attacked us on 9/11, is not in Iraq. It’s in Pakistan. And if Pakistan won’t act we should. BushClinton made the mistake of not eradicating bin Ladin and his crew. It’s time to turn the page already. It’s time to take them out. To eradicate them. They have made a mockery of America. They have gotten away with a Pearl Harbor longer than the Japanese did. They are a two-bit ragtag bag of crap that we have been so stupid as to let take the world by storm. Let’s end it. Let’s vote in someone who will end it. No more of the same.
Obama called it right in arguing we had other priorities than Iraq when it mattered, and he is calling it right now. Clinton and Giuliani are older but both of them have credibility problems. Big time. Obama is someone we can trust. He is smart. He will bring new energy to America, which is starting to feel like Rome before the fall of its empire.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:18 pmThe funny thing was, it was removed, then it was back, then it was removed, then it was back.
currently it is gone.
but it wasn’t like, off the wall, it was just a question. there is more definitive stuff on the other thread, I posted.
I don’t know what it is. After I noticed it I thought some admin was playing around with me, but who knows.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:19 pmJust like to say a nonpartisan prayer for my fellow Minnesotans caught by the bridge collapse in Minneapolis. It doesnt look good and there are sure to be quite a few dead.
Hang in there, youre in Minnesota after all and we look after our own.
Comment by LibTeenie
Just looked at some footage of this on the news. Horrible situation because it was rush hour traffic and a major freeway bridge in the middle of town. Just missed taking out a school bus full of kids, but as noted, this is very grim.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:20 pmat 162 I say it’s back, and I appologize. then 165 I say it’s gone again.
it’s just funny.
It’s just a damn blog, who cares, really?
August 1st, 2007 at 8:21 pmYou used the words “diplomat†and “Rice†in the same sentence. Are you sure you meant to do that?
Comment by bilbobaggins
Oh, I did, didn’t I? What is wrong with me!
August 1st, 2007 at 8:22 pmYou’re telling me there’s no possibility of a conspiracy by the Democrats to have caused this seizure in some manner? Tell me that it’s not possible. Tell me that the stakes are not so high that the liberals — who’ve finally lost the court after 50 years — that they would stop short of anything like this. Tell me it’s not possible, and I’ll tell you you’re a liar.
Comment by Candyce — August 1, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Is this a real quote? Is this possible?
August 1st, 2007 at 8:24 pmTRoS, it’s for real. Want more?
“Well, let me ask you something. You remember the Russian who ate some polonium sushi? He was going to give an interview that was embarrassing to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin? He ate a polonium sushi and then he died. Well, they do it over there when there’s a lot of money at stake, don’t they? Power at stake? What’s a human being to power-mad people and power-mad parties? Nothing.
So why can’t we assume for a moment that it’s within the realm of possibility that Roberts was in some way — his health was in some way tampered with by the Democrats because they can’t believe that no matter what they do, no matter what they do — even if they engineer a victory for Hillary Clinton/[Barack] Obama — they’re still not going to be in control because the court’s moved to the center? Just a thought. Just a tiny little thought for you to ponder tonight, all you left-wingers who are so glib in your attacks on the conservative movement.”
August 1st, 2007 at 8:29 pmWare: Surge Is Undermining ‘The Very Government That America Created’
The Govt. he is referring to is the Shia dominated, Iran friendly Al- Maliki Govt. that the main Sunni Block just pulled out of.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:29 pmShia Iran and Saddams sunni dominated Iraq fought a bloody 8 year war, using poison gas and genocidal tactics. I don’t believe they will forget this…let bygones be bygones…and make nice.
The Surges’ heralded successes are due to our alliance with Sunni tribal leaders in Al-Anbar and other Sunni dominated areas. My guess is that they are cooperating with our troops to get rid of Al-Qaeda, but they want America out of Iraq…and they fear the Shia dominated goverment.
Bush is attempting a delicate region wide power balance, that was thrown out of balance by toppling Saddam.
The Actors in the region sense that we are leaving Iraq soon, and this is concentrating the minds, and spurring them to action.
Obviously the Demorcrats put a vodoo-curse on him.
Official sources in the White House have stated that “PumpkinHead” may have been involved.
CIA sources have released a picture of a shovel that may or may not have been in Sen Clinton’s trunk.
“Pumpkinhead”, like al Qaeda, is hard to spot but very effective.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:31 pmCIA sources have released a picture of a shovel that may or may not have been in Sen Clinton’s trunk.
LMAO!!
August 1st, 2007 at 8:33 pmYes, Michael Savage said that.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:33 pmJust like to say a nonpartisan prayer for my fellow Minnesotans caught by the bridge collapse in Minneapolis. It doesnt look good and there are sure to be quite a few dead. Hang in there, youre in Minnesota after all and we look after our own. Comment by LibTeenie
My condolences to these involved CheesyTeenie.
I noticed, as well, that some of my posts aren’t showing up either since Nico left although they were non-combative and for the most part humorous.
Nico has handed over the filter fairy keys perhaps??
August 1st, 2007 at 8:34 pmAhhhh haaa! Confirmation! Thank you Jeebus! (I always wanted to work that into a thread, without forcing it. Thank you for that too)
August 1st, 2007 at 8:36 pmThere are Piggly Wiggly’s there?
Comment by trueblue — August 1, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
where is the nearest Piggly Wiggly?
Comment by Lee J. Cobb — August 1, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
No Piggly Wiggly stores out here, but I remember them in Louisiana. It’s a funny name. :)
August 1st, 2007 at 8:37 pm“Pumpkinheadâ€, like al Qaeda, is hard to spot but very effective.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb
Is that like the Jackal that Cheney talks when driving around with his chemical biological suit?
August 1st, 2007 at 8:39 pmNo Piggly Wiggly stores out here, but I remember them in Louisiana. It’s a funny name. :)
Comment by Zooey
We use to have a Pig Stands restaurant out by White Rock lake [East Dallas] and we used to always get a kick out of it because there were usually a few police cars in the lot. I have a feeling the cops got a kick out of it as well. =P
August 1st, 2007 at 8:41 pmhey bowel movement 1-2, name ONE thing Patraeus disagrees with this administration about, regarding iraq…
He hasn’t even made his report yet. I know you want us to lose in Iraq as well, but at least you can try to listen to the guy!
August 1st, 2007 at 8:45 pmAll right, who did this?
August 1st, 2007 at 8:45 pmtest
August 1st, 2007 at 8:47 pmPiggly Wiggly has cornered the grocery store market in Western Wisconsin…putting many mom and pop local groceries out of business. Their employees get to wear T-shirts with a Pig butt and curley tail on the back. Classy!
August 1st, 2007 at 8:48 pmCentral California here: Arroyo Grande. Geologically, Southern California starts about the Gaviota Pass–you can see a decided difference in rock formations and, as well, vegetation. We got no steenking clams in Pismo. Dick Cheney shot them.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:49 pmI noticed, as well, that some of my posts aren’t showing up either since Nico left although they were non-combative and for the most part humorous.
Nico has handed over the filter fairy keys perhaps??
Comment by Jeebus Khrist
and another one gone.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:50 pmI used to live in North Carolina, where we had a Piggly Wiggly. I hadn’t thought about it in years until Hoke drove Miss Daisy down to the Piggly Wiggly.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:56 pmHow did this thread go from the Iraq war to the local Piggly Wiggly? Terrorists must be EVERYWHERE
August 1st, 2007 at 8:59 pmSweet, thanks egg!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:01 pmSo I understand TP not posting much since they’re gone to YearlyKos, but DailyKos is posting fairly regulary still.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:04 pmname ONE thing Patraeus disagrees with this administration about, regarding iraq…
Comment by m12 — August 1, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
How about the 4 years of incompetent Iraq policy that preceeded Patraeus taking command…characterized by inadequate troop strength, catch and release battle plans (Falujah I and Falujah II), increasing violence and insecurity, and wishfull thinking.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:04 pmPatraeus should have been in charge from the beginning with Gates as Defense Secretary. Hopefully he agrees with that.
badger, aren’t you assuming that the admin put him in charge despite a belief that things were going swimmingly?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:06 pm“name ONE thing Patraeus disagrees with this administration about, regarding iraq…”
One thing? I think they disagree with your spelling of Petraeus.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:07 pmI don’t blame you though, with the spelling. I think Betrayus is more accurate.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:10 pmDynoMITE! I see this is a fashionable thread, all the happenin’ people have shown up.
Lets see if we can get it to 700 posts…maybe even one thousand.
We should have a solidarity march to commemorate this grand day!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:13 pmbadger, aren’t you assuming that the admin put him in charge despite a belief that things were going swimmingly?
Comment by Wilco — August 1, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
No… I think they put him in charge out of desperation because things were going drowningly. Rumsfeld’s resignation and Bush’s 28% poll numbers and 3500 lost American Military are not the hallmarks of a successfull Iraq policy. This surge is Bush’s last grasp at a life preserver.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:15 pm“almost as if you might be an administrator.
Comment by Lee J. Cobb “
As I said before, they are not censoring, they are just having problems with their board. The same thing happens to me occasionally. What I post won’t be there and then I post something else and it is instantly there. Then later I notice that the post that was not there is now there! It’s all very confusing. I do know that TP is working on coming up with some kind of a registration system so that may have something to do with the site acting so quirky.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:15 pmI’ll make the banners!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:17 pm“Lets see if we can get it to 700 posts…maybe even one thousand.
We should have a solidarity march to commemorate this grand day!”
Or we could just raise funds for the corporations!!! Cause…they really need it.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:18 pm“We need to listen to the generals.”
Sen. Harry Reid
August 1st, 2007 at 9:18 pmYou are right bilbo, I have blasted TP for deleting my comment and the next time it is there. It is kind of embarassing.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:19 pmThanketh you, master Philonous for your kind offer.
Would you please make 20,000 banners that say “1000 posts and Counting! Bush sucks and he caused the destruction of Pompeii”.
Anyone else? We still need folkses to hand out iced lattes on the route and to make sure that the anarchist-nudists are kept isolated.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:22 pmBlogs always malfunction when they’re asking for money. 8^)
August 1st, 2007 at 9:22 pmOr you could make a banner, LibTeenie, saying “I post at TP and everybody thinks I am kinda dumb!!!!!”
August 1st, 2007 at 9:24 pmOr we could just raise funds for the corporations!!! Cause…they really need it.
I know what you mean, those damn corporations and the modern innovations they bring to our lives. I know I could go without flush toilets, inexpensive food and advanced surgical devices if it meant we could really STICK IT to the corporations!
I think we need to change the march topic: “Corporations Suck! I want to live like a Bangladeshi!”
Philonous, would you please take note and alter the signage accordingly.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:25 pmLight blogging indeed. There’s a Rove thread dying to be posted.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:27 pmOr you could make a banner, LibTeenie, saying “I post at TP and everybody thinks I am kinda dumb!!!!!â€
Oh, youre volunteering to carry a sign in the march? Cool, glad to see the participation.
Philonous, please make this sign for Jdolt to carry in our march.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:27 pmCorporations are NOT people.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:29 pm“I know what you mean, those damn corporations and the modern innovations they bring to our lives. I know I could go without flush toilets, inexpensive food and advanced surgical devices if it meant we could really STICK IT to the corporations!”
Because corporations do SOOO much for the US. It isn’t actually the ideas, it is the execution of those ideas!!! The execution of which…relies on the work ethic of the American worker…something you don’t understand…at all.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:29 pm“Oh, youre volunteering to carry a sign in the march? Cool, glad to see the participation.”
Not clever…at all.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:30 pmThe real problem is abuse in business practices. And the problem is extremism on either side of the political spectrum. Corporations are great for the good they have in them. Corporations who are abusive in their business practices are the problem.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:32 pmAll the complaining about trolls caused TP to start blocking all kinds of stuff. It kinda sucks.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:33 pmBecause corporations do SOOO much for the US. It isn’t actually the ideas, it is the execution of those ideas!!! The execution of which…relies on the work ethic of the American worker…something you don’t understand…at all.
Right, and the work ethic of the American worker would be utilized how exactly if they didnt have a job? Now youre a lib so hating “Big Biz’ is part of your credo, but corporations arise out of businesses that once upon a time were small businesses. You do like economic growth, do you not, or are you one of those dolts who long for the days when barter was the daily business regimen?
Lets ask the recipients of America’s largest corporate-gained philanthropic organization (The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) if they would rather that Microsoft werent so successful. What does your dim bulb of a mind think they might say?
Meanwhile, Im planning a march and Ive assigned you to provide the porta-potties. Youre used to talking shat so it shouldnt be too much of a stretch for you.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:36 pm“The real problem is abuse in business practices. And the problem is extremism on either side of the political spectrum.”
That is so wrong. I am a cost accountant for a small company. I have been in accounting for 15 years for various companies. None of them followed left wing policies. There is no such thing as a lefty business crime.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:36 pmLibTeenie, are you saying we could just do fine and dandy without a solid workforce?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:37 pmNot clever…at all.
More likely you didnt understand it, which is understandable. Understand?
I can re-post if you care to try again, yes?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:38 pmLibteenie,
Sure thing, but who’s bringing the lattes? It’s going to take a lot of caffeine for me to make all those banners…
soy-milk only, please.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:38 pmBy the way, you can shove your porta-potties straight up your voluptous, ever ready, a$$
August 1st, 2007 at 9:38 pmLibTeenie, are you saying we could just do fine and dandy without a solid workforce?
If you have something to accuse me of then do it, dont prance around and try to make shat up. Not that I would expect any less of you.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:39 pmSure thing, but who’s bringing the lattes? It’s going to take a lot of caffeine for me to make all those banners…
I have assigned the husband and wife team of Badger/Zooey to provide those, and Ill make sure they give you your own tureen.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:41 pmLibTeenie, you are slow. You are claiming your trickle down BS. You KNOW it doesn’t work. You need to treat your workforce with respect…but you STILL don’t.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:42 pmVotronIsASockPuppet = douchebag
August 1st, 2007 at 9:42 pmEr, LibTeenie, Zooey is not married to Badger. Are you jealous, you pathetic little worm?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:43 pmBy the way, you can shove your porta-potties straight up your voluptous, ever ready, a$$
Actually Ive been working out and my booty is now quite fetching. Please provide the porta-johns and make sure you clean them out beforehand. Use your toothbrush if necessary.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:43 pmWe got no steenking clams in Pismo. Dick Cheney shot them.
Comment by bogtrotters —
Actually a sea otter named Dick Nixon ate them all circa 1974, so now we know what happened after that historic resignation.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:47 pmEr, LibTeenie, Zooey is not married to Badger. Are you jealous, you pathetic little worm?
Oh bejaysus, Ive stepped in the poo now. I wasnt supposed to say anything on account of your delicate disposition…but I suppose the cats out of the bag, so to say.
They got married last week at a Mother Gaia Earth Festival in Seattle, the problem is they decided not to invite you. There was already a clown hired to keep the kids entertained and Zooey didnt want you confusing the kids, or was it frightening them, well whatever.
So now you know.
Could you also handle the job of passing out the Rainbow Coalition flags to all march participants? Thanks then.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:47 pmYes, let’s have a march to libteenieweenie’s house, print out this thread and watch him eat it, with some paprika and cayenne, that is.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:48 pmLibTeenie, you are slow. You are claiming your trickle down BS. You KNOW it doesn’t work. You need to treat your workforce with respect…but you STILL don’t.
Who is this “you”? I dont run a corporation.
You need to understand that “respect” is a relative term, to some it means decent wages, to others (like you) it means getting paid to sit on their thumbs and twirl until a smile appears.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:49 pmI am fricking thrilled if Zooey and Badger get married (if Badger is cool. Zoo deserves it). However, I seriously doubt a right wing loser like you would know that. Der.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:50 pmIgnore the trolls.
They’re full of shit as usual.
The Iraqi government fell apart today. Another astonishing sign of normalcy in Iraq!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:51 pm“You need to understand that “respect†is a relative term, to some it means decent wages, to others (like you) it means getting paid to sit on their thumbs and twirl until a smile appears.”
Or how about a living wage!!!! Maybe?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:51 pmYes, let’s have a march to libteenieweenie’s house, print out this thread and watch him eat it, with some paprika and cayenne, that is.
Im allergic to paprika, though a nice Greek seasoning might do the trick.
There are no marches to my house planned, for one thing I live on Rove’s estate and have armed guards watching every move outside the wire.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:52 pmOr how about a living wage!!!! Maybe?
What exactly is a living wage?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:53 pmHere’s some more fun stuff
MSNBC News Services
Updated: 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
WASHINGTON – Citing executive privilege, President Bush has barred his close adviser Karl Rove from testifying to the Senate Judiciary Committee in a probe over fired federal prosecutors, CNN reported Wednesday.
The committee had subpoenaed Rove to testify at a hearing Thursday morning in its investigation of the firing last year of nine federal prosecutors, which critics said was prompted by partisan politics.
Also subpoenaed was White House political aide J. Scott Jennings.
White House Counsel Fred Fielding has consistently said that top presidential aides — present and past — are immune from subpoenas and has declared the documents sought off-limits under executive privilege.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:53 pmSorry, a$$hole LibTeenie but I don’t see any minimum wage slaves sitting on their a$$es. I see that in offices.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:53 pmHowever, I seriously doubt a right wing loser like you would know that. Der.
Youre just pissed because you werent invited to the wedding. Sour grapes indeed!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:54 pm“Youre just pissed because you werent invited to the wedding. Sour grapes indeed!”
It is You’re. And I know what state it is. You don’t. Pathetic.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:55 pm“What exactly is a living wage?”
I am more interested in what YOU think a living wage is.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:56 pmSorry, a$$hole LibTeenie but I don’t see any minimum wage slaves sitting on their a$$es. I see that in offices.
Aha, so we finally get to the crux of the matter.
Youre a dumbass who couldnt or wouldnt find the energy to better yourself, blaming your total lack of personal drive and ambition on others who were able to muster themselves to the task.
Guess what dolty, those “office people” include the folkses who manage the books and provide you with a paycheck every week.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:57 pmIt is You’re. And I know what state it is. You don’t. Pathetic.
Oh my, you found my proclivity to eschew the apostrophe. Very good professor.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:58 pmMichael Ware: Friend to all of America’s enemies! Ware is a propagandist for the anti-war media and the treasonous lib dems! His reporting has always been anti-progress in Iraq. He probably never leaves the bar at his hotel in the green zone, but he is portrayed as an objective journalist by the always left-leaning Commie News Network! Why are all of you libs so enthusiastic and hopeful that America lose this war? Do you hate your own country that much? I have never seen such vile hatred from the so called tollerant/ enlightened/ compassionate/ among us. Shame on all of you! SHAME!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:59 pmThe new NeoColon sounds like Minneapolis Mike on Huffpo. Nice satire, 988!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:01 pmOh and tollerant, is that affiliated with inncohairent?
I am more interested in what YOU think a living wage is.
Youre (no apostrophe-AGAIN) not very good at this, are you?
You got hysterical in an earlier post about “a living wage!!!!” so now you need to explain what made you bust a nut over it, what exactly is “a living wage!!!!” in your book.
Or you could just avoid the question again and showcase your utter lack of ability to debate such issues.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:01 pmScrewy TP. Keeps blocking me.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:01 pm“Youre a dumbass who couldnt or wouldnt find the energy to better yourself, blaming your total lack of personal drive and ambition on others who were able to muster themselves to the task”
Hmm, I am a cost accountant that makes pretty nice money. I work hard every day (I work at a factory and I would NOT do what those iron workers do every day). You can TRY to insult me again.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:02 pmLet’s get back on topic:
“There is still no sense of unity. And without America to act as the big baby sitter, this thing [the state of non-full-blown genocide] is not going to last.â€
Looks like there will be no troop withdrawal in the near future. I say that we use propaganda to shatter the sectarian identities of the Iraqi people, while at the same time we use mortar shells to shatter mosques and madrasas.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:02 pm“Michael Ware: Friend to all of America’s enemies!”
Can you be more of a jackass?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:02 pmLibTeenie, again, what is a living wage??? You may not think I am good at this but you still have not answered and it makes you look like a b!tch.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:03 pmPlease don’t feed the trolls.
They’re all Repukes so they have nothing factual to say.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:06 pmStill no answer? You hate the corporations because they dont provide “a living wage!!!” then you fail to elucidate exactly what that living wage is supposed to be.
Game. Set. Match. You lose.
You know it and I know it.
Now lets march!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:06 pmHmm, I am a cost accountant that makes pretty nice money.
No, youre a drip who pushes napkins around a table.
Petty jealously is the extent of your emotional attachment to the company which employs you.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:08 pmGame.Set.Match? Are you joking? You are still going with the 5.75 thing. You couldn’t live on that. And they work a lot harder than you.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:09 pmMichelle Malkin is sad that the Minneapolis bridge collapse was apparently not a terrorist act.
Why does Michelle love the terrorists?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:09 pm“No, youre a drip who pushes napkins around a table”
Umm, I have never known a cost accountant that pushed napkins around a table. We push pencils and keys. You are that stupid?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:10 pmOf course Malkin loves terrorists. She is a Thai.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:10 pmYou are still going with the 5.75 thing. You couldn’t live on that. And they work a lot harder than you.
Ok, a little headway on the littlehead man. If not $5.75 then what should it be?
Its a simple question asking for nothing more than your opinion. You can continue to dance around or you can man-up and answer the question.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:10 pmLiving wage.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:11 pmLibteenie Is a Mindless ranting of sophmoric insults No substance to add to anything. Only junvenile bravado of a class life that our troops weren’t fortunate enough to have. How truly pathetic an individual is LibTeenie? Our troops mostly comprise of middle to lower class income and she more than happy to insult every last one of them.
Go sit on LIMPBALLS LAP and do LibTeenie shuffle. You pathetic imature mindless piece of wasted flesh.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:11 pmI love ya, Wayne, but “proper English” would be the following:
Ending a sentence in a preposition is something up with which I will not put.
:-D
August 1st, 2007 at 10:11 pmUmm, I have never known a cost accountant that pushed napkins around a table. We push pencils and keys. You are that stupid?
Because youre not a ‘cost accountant’ and we both know it.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:12 pmJPark. Name one pro-American story filed by Ware. If you believe that Ware is an “objective journalist”, then you must also think that Hillary Rotten Clit has had hetero-sex since the night Chelsea was concieved! Even then, I think that p*ssy-licking c*nt used a turkey-bastor!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:12 pmSimple question, LibTeenie. Do you think the people who make you your money deserve 5.75? I know for a fact my company does not offer less than 12 dollars an hour for their workers. It is a simple question. Since my company does just fine paying decent wages, why don’t you, you cheap little b!tch?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:13 pmNEOKHAN, show me an anti-American story by Ware and I will show you what kind of a pathetic toad you really are.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:14 pmOf course Malkin loves terrorists. She is a Thai.
Comment by JPark — August 1, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
Heh heh heh…Malkin is Filipino. You really ARE a mindless shatforbrains, arent you?
LOL…thai. LOL!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:14 pm“Because youre not a ‘cost accountant’ and we both know it.”
Really??? Sh!t!!! I had better find a new job!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:15 pmLib, my bad!!!! She sucks. She looks Thai. I guess I was wrong!! I can tell you she is dumb as sh!t though.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:16 pmSimple question, LibTeenie.
Still running, I see. You would give a Kenyan marathoner quite the competition.
What is “a living wage!!!!”? Your words, not mine. Simple question.
Or you could just run away again, youre getting faster with each post.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:17 pmYou know what I do for a living. What do YOU do?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:18 pmA living wage is about double what you would pay your poor workers!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:19 pmA living wage is about double what you would pay your poor workers!!!
Almost there (this is like pulling teeth), and what would I pay my workers?
You can do this…deep breath…come on Jdolt…shout it out!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:21 pmYou know what I do for a living. What do YOU do?
I know what you claim to do for a living, but if you must know, Im a shepherd.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:21 pmTell me, moron, what WOULD you pay your workers (if you didn’t work at McDonald’s yourself). I told you what I do. Tell me what you do.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:22 pm“I know what you claim to do for a living, but if you must know, Im a shepherd.”
Err, sex with sheep does not make you a shepard.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:23 pmSHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:23 pmI wish KKKarl paid a living wage so Pee could retire me.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:24 pm“and what would I pay my workers?”
Who gives a runny stool?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:24 pmEnough about my fake company. I’m ready to start marching in a LibTeenie, the Ultimate Narcasist parade.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:24 pmI ♥ ME !!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:24 pmErr, sex with sheep does not make you a shepard.
Leave it to a lib to reference bestiality. Come out of the closet and show your animal pride.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:25 pmTHINK PROGRESS.ORG: AMERICA HATERS WELCOME!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:25 pmLibby, I am a cost accountant with a metal building company. We make the beams for buildings. We buy and sell the panels, the hardware, the trim and light gage needed for a metal building. If you want I can tell you more about the business if you would like. And you can tell me just how they make Big Macs.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:25 pm“THINK PROGRESS.ORG: AMERICA HATERS WELCOME!”
That is sooooo right!!! We let righties post!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:26 pmStill waiting for the number, the wage number, Jdolt.
Anytime this decade would do, unless you feel it necessary to run and run and run.
And run and run and run.
And run some more.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:26 pmI know what you claim to do for a living, but if you must know, Im a shepherd.
Comment by LibTeenie
Out west where the men are men and the sheep are nervous.
Baaaah.
Jeebus, the trolls here are lame.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:27 pmLib, fine. I just proved to you I am no welfare queen. I would say 9 dollars is at the least a living wage.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:28 pmYoure lying Jdolt and you know it. ‘Cost accountant’ is a term you made up to impress the other mouth-breathing libs on this site who are impressed by anyone who manages to have a job.
Napkin pusher is a more apt description, why dont you build your online facade on that premise instead?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pmgum, don’t be so harsh. The trolls (LibTeenie) are just not very bright.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pm“I know what you claim to do for a living, but if you must know, Im a shepherd.”
Smells more like a goat-roper.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pmI still LOVE me. I’m so erudite, I think I’ll give myself a “high five”.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pmJPark, have you purchased your carbon credits to offset your footprint. It sounds to me like you are part of the evil corporate culture who are plundering Mother Earth’s resources to feed your insaciable(sic) greed! Do you guys deliver your construction materials in hybrid trucks?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:30 pmLib, if you want to think I am lying, go ahead. I am a cost accountant and all I see is you whining. Would you like me to tell you something about cost accounting? I will.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:30 pmI would say 9 dollars is at the least a living wage.
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO! And all by yourself! Good job dude, Im proud of ya.
Next question: why only nine bucks, why not ten or fifteen or twenty?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:31 pmNEOKHAN, I have not made any carbon footprints. I work for a small, eco-friendly company. Not sure what you are saying.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:31 pmLibTeenie, would you LIKE me to say 10 or 15? Somehow I don’t think you actually want to debate policy…you just want to bash “liberals”
August 1st, 2007 at 10:32 pmYes, prove to me you are a ‘cost accountant’ since I happen to have quite a bit of background in the accounting field myself. Personally I dont believe you but I guess we will see.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:33 pmThat is just the type of errant effrontary up with with I will not put.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:33 pmW.Churchill
Ask me a question, Lib.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:33 pmahhhhh the price we pay for allowing everyone to speak isn’t democracy grand… I swear the lack of ability to have a civil discourse is amazing.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:33 pmLibTeenie, would you LIKE me to say 10 or 15? Somehow I don’t think you actually want to debate policy…you just want to bash “liberalsâ€
No, I am sincerely interested in how you arrived at nine bucks, why NOT more than that, why not twenty?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:35 pmWell, Christ, Lib, 20 would be solidly in the middle upper class. Der?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:36 pmExplain what you do and how you do it. Use the daily colloquial terms that only an experienced accountant would use. Dont give me some crap about invoices or cash-flow, but the real deal.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:36 pmWell, Christ, Lib, 20 would be solidly in the middle upper class. Der?
Would you advocate raising the min to twenty?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:37 pmPlease LISTEN to me. I matter. I rock. I think I’ll give myself a big hug.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:37 pm622 posts and only 50 or so from me. My ego is starting to hurt.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:38 pmit seems michael ware is what a REAL journalist should be:skeptical, stubborn, and maybe a little cynical and all those attributes served him and us well because he relied on facts, precedent, sources and probably expected the downright desperate propaganda of our very own idealogical mouthpieces who blabbed about progress that is merely and sadly topical.the only time our friends at fox are skeptical, stubborn and cynical is when their false assertions about ANYTHING are challenged.you can take those facts and stack ‘em and arrange them any way you want, but know this:i don’t think michael ware and others like him are foolish enough to risk their safety to telegraph outright lies.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:38 pmI take it this thread stopped referencing the topic about four hundred posts ago?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:39 pmWhy daily colloquial terms, Lib? Can’t I use actual terms I use in my day to day activity?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:39 pmMichael Ware rocks my world.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:39 pm“I take it this thread stopped referencing the topic about four hundred posts ago?”
Comment by CowTown
Blame it on TP for taking a vacation.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:40 pmahhhhh the price we pay for allowing everyone to speak isn’t democracy grand… I swear the lack of ability to have a civil discourse is amazing.
Comment by chad — August 1, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
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August 1st, 2007 at 10:41 pmindeed. you were allowed to post an utterly meaningless comment. however, just because yours got through, doesn’t mean TP allows everyone to speak………………………………………………………………
TP censors at least half of my posts these days, this probably won’t even go through………………………………………………………………….
I take it this thread stopped referencing the topic about four hundred posts ago?
Comment by CowTown
Maybe 600. It’s been a dull(ard) day here at TP.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:42 pmFine, I will not use POs, SOs, invoices, or any spreadsheet that has anything to do with cost. Lib, you know nothing about cost.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:42 pmPoint is, Ware is a heroic journalist. Once this debacle is over and the historians parse this ill-conceived war, Michael will be heralded as one of the true “reporters”.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:43 pm…oh, and about what can or will happen when ‘we leave…’that, sadly is a given, but then, our white-knuckled escape from Saigon and the resulting fallout wasn’t exactly a picnic.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:43 pmSo youre not a CA?
Knew it.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:45 pmWhile Ted Stevens is building bridges to nowhere and US treasure is being used to rebuild bridges in Iraq, the nation crumbles from within.
Bin Laden’s plan is working out just fine.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 10:45 pmI predict that anonymous will make more predictions. What I guess is that they’ll all be wrong.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:45 pm:-D
Comment by MD
lol
August 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pm“So youre not a CA?”
Are you kidding? I have never heard of CA.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pmYou don’t know what a cost accountant is, Lib.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pmInfrastructure, we don’t need no stinkin’ infrastructure.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pmHey it went through!!!
YeA! 4 ME!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pm“JPark. Name one pro-American story filed by Ware. If you believe that Ware is an “objective journalistâ€, then you must also think that Hillary Rotten Clit has had hetero-sex since the night Chelsea was concieved! Even then, I think that p*ssy-licking c*nt used a turkey-bastor!
Comment by NEOKAHN988765 — August 1, 2007 “
Must be a member of the O’Reilly League of hate.
-GSD
August 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pmAre you kidding? I have never heard of CA.
Dumb.
“Cost accountant”…Im tired of typing it out time after time while you try to maintain the facade that youre not a napkin pusher.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pmIf you are in accounting, you are a freshman. Good luck with your next 3 years, toad.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pmLib, no cost accountant calls themself a CA. Keep going to school.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:48 pmOnce this debacle is over and the historians parse this ill-conceived war, Michael will be heralded as one of the true “reportersâ€.
Comment by LibTeenie’sTeenieWeenie
Do you mean after the Orwellian OverLords finally finish taking over?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:49 pmOh, that’s right!!! I am a CA!!!! Wait, no. Nobody has EVER used that term.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:49 pmBush and the anti-government republic party: Blowing up and rebuilding bridges over there, so we don’t have to build them here.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:49 pmHey Lib, what % of Accounting Majors go into cost?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:50 pmLib, no cost accountant calls themself a CA. Keep going to school.
Its a simple shortcut.
You ARE lying, not that I expected you werent. You cant even explain what it is you do on a daily basis.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:50 pmGoogle it, if you like, dolt.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:50 pmLOL, a simple shortcut? Are you stoned?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:50 pmI CAN tell you what I do everyday.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:51 pmOrwwellian Overlords. Hell no, I’ll just take my chances with Bill O’Riely.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:51 pmWare is a spineless coward! To even use the word heroic in the same sentence as his name is an absolute insult to every soldier and Marine who have layed down their lives so that traitors like Ware can spew their marxist propaganda! Ware is an insult to all true “journalists”! And that is not saying much, when I and most true Americans put “journalists” on a scale somewhere between ambulance chasing trial lawyers and child molesting pedophiles!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:51 pmHehehe…another match to me! JOY!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:51 pmIt is not very glamorous. If you want to know I will tell you though.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:52 pmLib, you have never won anything.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:52 pmNo you cant because youre full of shiite. Youve been making it up since day one. You CANT because you CANT.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:52 pmA BRIDGE HAS COLLAPSED IN MINNEAPOLIS!!!!!
“The Interstate 35W Mississippi River bridge near University Avenue has collapsed into the river…â€
THIS ATROCITY IS ONLY 4 MILES FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PIAPS FRONT ORGANIZATION, “AMERICA VOTES†AT 1600 UNIVERSITY AVENUE IN SAINT PAUL!!!!!
UNIVERSITY AVENUE MUST BE CORDONED OFF AND SEARCH WARRANTS MUST BE SECURED FOR EVERY “AMERICA VOTES†OFFICE!!!!
PIAPS IS ON A RAMPAGE!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:53 pmDamn it, where the F is my medication.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:53 pmJPark don’t use logic that only confuses them. Just because she hasn’t taken the advanced classes is not need to make fun of libteenie. She only understands things while reading the talking points she could possibly but them in REAL terms.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:54 pmLib, you have never won anything.
Wrong, I won this. You cant explain a simple day, just a day.
Match. Won by me. JOY!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:54 pmOf course I’m angry. You would be to, if you lived in my neighborhood.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:54 pmI Love Me (more today than yesterday, but not as much as tomorrow).
August 1st, 2007 at 10:56 pmNow for another hit of crack . . .
journalists†on a scale somewhere between ambulance chasing trial lawyers and child molesting pedophiles
Comment by NEOKAHN988765 — August 1, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
hmm ok so where does limbaugh, oreily, and hannity fall. I would say right next pedophiles.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:56 pmI know, chad. I am a sucker, though.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:59 pmI knew it wouldn’t be long before Bush got blamed for the bridge collapse! Who will you guys blame for everything when Hillary Rotten Clit is elected by the morons of this country? I know you libs think that more government is the answer to all of America’s ills and that the gov. should take money from all of us producers out here and redistribute it to the scum of our society who sponge off us like leaches. I say kill all non-producers!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:59 pmWhat in the flying #@&*%$+$#@&% is this thread about anyway?
664 mother $#%&^)+%@#* posts on everything BUT the topic?
What the %$#@*)(^&%$#_&+$#@ is going on here?
August 1st, 2007 at 10:59 pmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…still no answer.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:00 pmIf you are looking to do more you might want to change your major because I am close to being CFO. If it bores you I get it.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:01 pm“zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…still no answer.”
You are no accountant.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:01 pmChad. Rush, O’, and Hannity are true patriots who are standing up to the commie/socialists who are trying to destroy this country from within!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:02 pmCFO of a one-man company.
Good try though.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:02 pmA one man company? What?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:03 pmGood to have you back, I’ve been busy doing a take-home final exam but I feel better now, knowing that The Troll ™ is alive and well here at TP.
Comment by Philonous
Sucking up to a nonpatriotic chickenhawk who got deferments?
How Republican of you. Yet I am not surprised, Mr P, at your fake conservatism and delusional view of the world and reality. Your a college kid who’s nothing more than a neophyte tool for someone elses hidden agenda.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:03 pmAre you sure you don’t want to give up, Lib? I just have to talk about my day.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:04 pmno f-you I live in Minneapolis I blame our governor Pawlenty he vetoed gas tax of 5 cents for every gallon that would go into our transportation and infastructure we have not had an increase to rebuilt our roads in 15 years. That is why recent reports have us right next to LA as far as congestion goes. Pawlenty does fall from the same ideological tree as Bush and promised no new taxes when taxes should be seen as an investment on a common good.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:04 pmA one man company? What?
You and your one man company.
Get it now or do you need a government office to assist you with the big words?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:04 pmOr are you still saying I am not a cost accountant. Honestly, that is ridiculous. Who would brag about it? I like it but it is not exactly being Brad Pitt.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:05 pmSucking up to a nonpatriotic chickenhawk who got deferments?
How Republican of you. Yet I am not surprised, Mr P, at your fake conservatism and delusional view of the world and reality. Your a college kid who’s nothing more than a neophyte tool for someone elses hidden agenda.
Comment by PI COT ORION — August 1, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
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Say whaaa?
I’m not sucking up to anybody!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:06 pm“You and your one man company.
Get it now or do you need a government office to assist you with the big words?”
Do you want to have some sort of accounting spelling bee?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:06 pmno f-you I live in Minneapolis I blame our governor Pawlenty he vetoed gas tax of 5 cents for every gallon that would go into our transportation and infastructure
You are a twittering bird, I also live in the Twin Cities metro and in case youre too effing dense to notice, the bridge collapsed during reconstruction work on the bridge itself. Fool.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:06 pmRepublicans don’t like taxes because they know what they would do with taxes.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:07 pmLibTeenie, you have proven you know nothing about accounting. I really hope you that is not your major. You would be lucky to make a living wage ($9.00 per hour)
August 1st, 2007 at 11:07 pmDo you want to have some sort of accounting spelling bee?
You cant even explain what you do during a normal day, why would I lower myself to embarrassing you even more?
Perhaps another solidarity march is in order.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:08 pm“Republicans don’t like taxes because they know what they would do with taxes”
I am ok with prostitutes.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:08 pmProlly not a good idea to keep up traffic when working on the bridge, just sayin’
August 1st, 2007 at 11:09 pm“You cant even explain what you do during a normal day, why would I lower myself to embarrassing you even more?
Perhaps another solidarity march is in order.”
Are you stupid? I just told you about my day. It is not exciting but it is what happens MR. accounting major. I hope you are not expecting non-stop excitement…actually, I hope you are. You are really stupid.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:10 pmYou do know, Lib, that nobody has any respect for you, right? I just told you about the reality of a cost accountant and somehow you didn’t believe me. Just braindead.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:11 pmI knew it wouldn’t be long before Bush got blamed for the bridge collapse!
Yep.
As soon as I saw that, I posted a link to the TRUTH!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:11 pmAnd jeez, I downplayed the incredible excitement!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:12 pmMy cookie always expires.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:12 pmPerhaps another solidarity march is in order.
I’ll make the banners!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:13 pmSo you admit defeat, fine, Ill take another match from ya. JOY!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:13 pmYes, banners would be in order. Make them now, hurry man!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:13 pmBush is personally responsible for the bridge collapse.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:14 pmHehe, yes, Lib, I am MUCH less of a wimp than you. You win!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:14 pmBush used leftover explosives from the New Orleans dikes. Did I just say dikes? I meant levees.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:14 pmBush is personally responsible for the bridge collapse.
Comment by Porky tha PoPo — August 1, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
WRONG!!!!!
IT WAS P.I.A.P.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:15 pmSay whaaa? I’m not sucking up to anybody! Comment by Philonous
I have serious doubts about that. Say what does my turdblossom taste like my little neo-philo?
You are a twittering bird, I also live in the Twin Cities metro and in case youre too effing dense to notice, the bridge collapsed during reconstruction work on the bridge itself. Fool.
Comment by LibTeenie
It wouldn’t be the first time construction cut corners because of costs LT
August 1st, 2007 at 11:16 pmThank you for the acknowledgement, Jdolt, at least youre being a man and admitting defeat. JOY!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:16 pm700
August 1st, 2007 at 11:16 pmCheney ordered the bridge to collapse.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:16 pmLib, did you just start ignoring me? Did you admit you suck?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:16 pm“Thank you for the acknowledgement, Jdolt, at least youre being a man and admitting defeat. JOY”
Are you joking?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:17 pmWoooooo HOOOOOOOO! I got it, I GOT IT!
NOW WE MARCH!
Philonous, break out the banners! Jpark, get those porta-potties going!
Come now people, we celebrate the 700 mark!
HeyyyOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:18 pmLibTeenie, would you like to talk about cost more? Or would you like to talk about Adam Smithian economics? Or are you outclassed?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:18 pmCheney ordered the bridge to collapse.
Comment by Porky tha PoPo — August 1, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
August 1st, 2007 at 11:18 pmWRONG!!!!!
you anti-American shiteater….
IT WAS P.I.A.P.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“NOW WE MARCH!
Philonous, break out the banners! Jpark, get those porta-potties going!
Come now people, we celebrate the 700 mark!
HeyyyOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”
Stupidity is not a virtue.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:19 pmHey man, the USA has some of the best building standards in the world. At least we don’t live in India, where crap collapses all the time.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:20 pmHEyOOOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOOOoooooo000ooOOoooOooOOo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Libteenie!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:20 pmLet’s March!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Considering the bridge hasnt had major reconstruction in over fourteen years, I guess we need to go back a ways to find out why. Was Pawlenty in office that long ago?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:20 pmTrolls caused the bridge to collapse.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:21 pmI just love the way Philo reads all this stuff about Greek wisdom but never actually shows any. What a great little tool your gonna be.
See how well my little Suka parrots the latest talking point? PIAPS.
Tell me more about this incorporeal soul Philo.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:21 pmIf you want to embarass yourself, Lib, keep it up.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:21 pmYes, we MARCH!
Join in everyone, the march has begun!
Solidarity!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:21 pmHey man, the USA has some of the best building standards in the world. At least we don’t live in India, where crap collapses all the time.
Comment by Porky tha PoPo — August 1, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
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True.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pmThe Best Nation EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stupidity is not a virtue.
So you admit you are not a virtuous man? Hmmm.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pmPhil, instead of being a total hosebag, how about, well, not being a hosebag.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:23 pm“So you admit you are not a virtuous man? Hmmm.”
Didn’t I already own you? Dismissed.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:24 pmPhil, instead of being a total hosebag, how about, well, not being a hosebag.
Comment by JPark — August 1, 2007 @ 11:23 pm
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HEy! o.
We’re marching now, brother!
Join in, let us all march as ONE, solidarity!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:25 pmPlease Jdolt, the porta-crappers are needed.
Set them up and then sit in one of their basement and await further orders.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:27 pmGood evening. What is going on in herea?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:27 pmBush is personally responsible for the bridge collapse.
Comment by Porky tha PoPo — August 1, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
Indirectly, yes. This occupation is sucking whatever money is left because of the War Party’s insanity. The infrastructure is collapsing, and the USA owes trillions to Saudi Arabia, Japan, Germany, and especially China. Think potholes on interstate highways. But….there is always junk bonds…..er…hedge funds to save the day.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:27 pmThe JooOOOoooOOOOOOoooOOOOoooOOOOooOOOOOOoooOOOOOOos
August 1st, 2007 at 11:27 pmcaused the
WTCbridge to collapse.Lib and Phil. Boxes of rocks.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:28 pmPhil, instead of being a total hosebag, how about, well, not being a hosebag.
Comment by JPark
PiPPy can’t help himself. Literally, I think. That’s why his mom keeps him and his invisible friends locked up in the basement.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:28 pmPhilo, is of course, Mr President. Mr Inter Pares. He speaks about being first among equals yet treats other Americans as inequal.
Tell me, Mr Pares, what does your soul consist of and how is it created? being?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:28 pmgum, I know it, he is not even worth owning. At least Lib tried…
August 1st, 2007 at 11:29 pmLib is probably not worth it but I went with my strength. Phil…is just stupid.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:29 pmBush is personally responsible for the bridge collapse.
Comment by Porky tha PoPo — August 1, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
Indirectly, yes. This occupation is sucking whatever money is left because of the War Party’s insanity. The infrastructure is collapsing, and the USA owes trillions to Saudi Arabia, Japan, Germany, and especially China. Think potholes on interstate highways. But….there is always junk bonds…..er…hedge funds to save the day.
Comment by swampgas — August 1, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
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Wrong. It was PIAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:30 pmComment by Porky tha PoPo — August 1, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:31 pmIt was P.I.A.P.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
F*CKING TP!
PUT DOWN YOUR GOD*AMN DRINKS AND LOOK AT WHAT’S HAPPENED TO YOUR THREAD.
You people are real idiots. Left no one to keep watch – and you want Interns?????
You Are STUPID.
You know there is a troll problem – yet you left NO ONE
at the button? Just packed up to pat yourselves on the back at yearly KO’s?
Sorry. Other sites have done better.
Cut the troll sh*t NOW!!!!
You’ve had SO much freakin’ time.
Your site has turned into a joke.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:31 pmK Rove,
I can not answer metaphysical questions, as they are beyond the scope of human knowledge.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:33 pmtrueblue, honestly, when has TP ever had an anti-troll policy?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:33 pmTP bans vulgarity, not trollery.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:33 pmtrueblue seems a bit miffed.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:34 pmIt’s always fun to come here to watch the immature trolls playing with themselves. What a sight! Or, what a site!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pmThis was a classic IslamoStalinist bridge collapse.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pmPorky is kind of a jackass.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pmWrong. It was PIAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
So how are the roads in Oklahoma, Wyoming or wherever goat-roping crap-kickers inbreed?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pmGood evening. What is going on in herea?
Comment by The Eck — August 1, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
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What’s up, The Eck?
We’re not up to much, just some good old fashioned solidarity marchin’!
Join in!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:36 pmMichelle Malkin is good for nothing but f^cking. Rude? Yes. True? Yes.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:36 pmBut….there is always junk bonds…..er…hedge funds to save the day.
Would those be the hedge-funds that John Edwards managed?
Nice mansion, johnny.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:37 pmI can not answer metaphysical questions, as they are beyond the scope of human knowledge.
Comment by Philonous
But that is what your moniker leads one to believe. I have metaphysical knowledge and it is not beyond the scope of human knowledge. It is beyond human explanation with numbers and our current magic, which is but methods yet unlearned, or science, as you say.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:37 pmThis was a classic IslamoStalinist bridge collapse.
Comment by Michelle Malkin — August 1, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
August 1st, 2007 at 11:37 pm———
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We shouldn’t speculate about the cause of the collapse until we can prove it was done by terrorists.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:37 pmswampy, I drove semi for a couple of years and I HATED driving in the south. Other than the perverted creeps in the trucker showers…every thing was dandy.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:38 pmLOL@Malkin
August 1st, 2007 at 11:38 pmMalkin, Phil buys you totally!!. Nice job :)
August 1st, 2007 at 11:39 pmMalkin needs to have her head jammed into the headboard a few hundred times.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:39 pmMalkin, Phil buys you totally!!. Nice job :)
Comment by JPark — August 1, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
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Actually, those lines are from a comment I made earlier on:
http://americaphile.blogspot.com/
So I’m really just agreeing with myself.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:40 pmNo, Porky, only the real Malkin does.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:41 pmJPark. Name one pro-American story filed by Ware. If you believe that Ware is an “objective journalistâ€, then you must also think that Hillary Rotten Clit has had hetero-sex since the night Chelsea was concieved! Even then, I think that p*ssy-licking c*nt used a turkey-bastor!
Comment by NEOKAHN988765 — August 1, 2007
Oh, so you have to be pro-American to be objective now? Look at my Strawman – hear him roar!
Oh and some nasty triny-todgered mysogyny in there too – what a piece of sh*t we had there, sports fans.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:41 pmswampy, I drove semi for a couple of years and I HATED driving in the south. Other than the perverted creeps in the trucker showers…every thing was dandy.
Comment by JPark — August 1, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
Yep, drove all around the country too. The roads look pretty bad to me, and recently traveling in Massachusetts, there were potholes in major highways. Same thing in New Jersey. They keep filling holes with asphalt.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:41 pmPhil, you keep linking to a really pointless blog. When are you going to become relevant?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:42 pmI drove semi for a couple of years and I HATED driving in the south. Other than the perverted creeps in the trucker showers…every thing was dandy.
The other truckers were thinking the same thing about him.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:42 pmWhat’s up, The Eck?
We’re not up to much, just some good old fashioned solidarity marchin’!
Join in!!!!!!!
Comment by Philonous
Wat up, Philonous!
There are some Democrats like trueblue who are spitting fire tonight.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:42 pmJust wait until the IslamoFascists jam your head into the headboard and then see who’s laughing, PIAP!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:43 pmswamp, it was Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi Texas and Michigan (I don’t know why Michigan sucked so bad)
August 1st, 2007 at 11:43 pmI meant the real Malkin.
I’m ignoring the other blog link.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:43 pmHi Michelle. For the record, you are much more attractive than Ann Coulter.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:44 pm“The other truckers were thinking the same thing about him.”
And I really wanted to know what the hill people thought.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:44 pmThe Islamo types might cut my head off.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:45 pmJPark, could you tell me exactly which truck stops those were?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:45 pmJpark has a lot of posts on this thread. I wonder what has him all worked up?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:45 pmGood idea Porky. It is a cesspool.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:45 pmThere are some Democrats like trueblue who are spitting fire tonight.
Comment by The Eck — August 1, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
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Oh yes, the overly emotional righteous indignation, it beats rational thought every time!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:45 pmTexarkana, Malkin. Texarkana.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pmThis was a classic IslamoStalinist bridge collapse. Comment by Michelle Malkin
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Philonous
Must be all those IslamoStalinists that were hired to design and build it and work on it. Why Minnesota LibTeenies state must be lousy with them. you know what this means don’t you?
LibTeenie, the ConWeenie, can only be an undercover IslamoFascist posing as an American Conservative!!
I bet ConWeenie knows nothing about Jesus either!!
Come now Mr PIP. I had much higher hopes for you. You cannot become truly enlightened, an Elite, if you have bias in your heart or materialism in your mind.
So dissapointed, you held some promise a while ago. It is pointless to help you find and reflect with your light being. Goodbye Mr P. Karl will have your last check ready by friday.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pmWe can assimilate the Islamo head choppers and give them more healthy way to channell their chopping tendencies, and let them do all the circumcisions.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pmI didn’t start til after post 500, Eck.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pmHello, The Eck! You’re sweet. I could wax the floor with you.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pmLOL!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:47 pmThere are 769 posts in this thread. 700 are Jpark’s. Geez, man you are working overtime!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:47 pmMichelle Malkin = egregg
August 1st, 2007 at 11:48 pmHello, The Eck! You’re sweet. I could wax the floor with you.
Comment by Michelle Malkin
Whoo hooo!
I will wear my full body condom.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:48 pmPhil, when you start thinking rationally, let us know.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:49 pmEck, you want to prove that or was that hyperbole?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:49 pmI didn’t start til after post 500, Eck.
Comment by JPark
I know. I’m just jokin with ya, J-Man!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:50 pmKarl will have your last check ready by friday.
KKKool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:50 pmMichelle Malkin = egregg
Comment by Philonous
Ewww, that’s kind of gross now that I think about it.
But anyway, what what what up Egg!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:51 pmOh yes, the overly emotional righteous indignation, it beats rational thought every time!
Comment by Philonous
And that, what you type, is rational?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:51 pmProjectionism is not rational. Never has been, never will it be.
Eck, I know who you are and I don’t want you banned. I am really pissy today though.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:51 pmI’d fack Ann Coulter,
August 1st, 2007 at 11:52 pmshe’she’s faboo.Phil, can you let Karl know that I might be a little late for work tomorrow? I have a training session with right wing management.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:52 pmPhil, when you start thinking rationally, let us know.
Comment by JPark — August 1, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
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Hey, I already told you guys about my suggestion for the Iraqi problem.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Eww, you better not try the normal entry. She has teeth there.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:53 pmEck, I know who you are and I don’t want you banned. I am really pissy today though.
Comment by JPark
Let me get you a beer man. You like Bud?
August 1st, 2007 at 11:53 pmPhil, that is stupid. That is like taking over the US and…destroying the churches, turning them into a Muslim country and making their women wear burkhas. Good idea!!!! Der.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:54 pmPhil, can you let Karl know that I might be a little late for work tomorrow? I have a training session with right wing management.
Comment by The Eck — August 1, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
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Sure thing, I’ll see him in the morning when I finish my shift.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:54 pmI hope the IraqiStalinists are as susceptible to propaganda as my fans are.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:54 pmI am from Wisconsin, Prime. I go for Miller out of loyalty.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:55 pmPhil, that is stupid. That is like taking over the US and…destroying the churches, turning them into a Muslim country and making their women wear burkhas. Good idea!!!! Der.
Comment by JPark — August 1, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
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Actually…
I’m suggesting the exact opposite.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:55 pm“Shatter mosques and madrasas.”
Oh, baby, I’m getting hot!
Take me now!
August 1st, 2007 at 11:55 pmI’d fack Ann Coulter, she’s faboo.
Comment by Porky tha PoPo
Ann looks good in a sweater. She’s pretty, but Malkin is much better looking in my opinion.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:56 pmI am from Wisconsin, Prime. I go for Miller out of loyalty.
Comment by JPark — August 1, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
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August 1st, 2007 at 11:56 pmI’m not The Eck.
Just a note on bridges, the Washington state DOT is going to work for 19 days straight, day and night on I90 right thru downtown Seattle.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:57 pmThey are replacing 40 year old expansion joints.
It can happen anywhere, gotta do your maintenance.
Now trolls, how would we do that without taxes??
I think Ann looks good with a strap-on.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:57 pmJeebus Horatio Kreist, it’s down to JPark and five trolls.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:58 pmWow.
Sure thing, I’ll see him in the morning when I finish my shift.
Comment by Philonous
This is a great job, you can either accept pay in the form of Halliburton stock, or draw off a slush fund set up by Abramoff.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:58 pmNo, Phil, you are not. You are suggesting doing unspeakable things in the middle east.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pmHey, I already told you guys about my suggestion for the Iraqi problem.
1) Shatter their sectarian identity with propaganda.
2) Shatter mosques and madrasas
3) Westernize the entire country.
Comment by Philonous — August 1, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
The problem with empire building is what happened to Rome, Nazi germany, Phoenicia, Egypt, and Napoleon. Stretching too far. Two other major obstacles to BushCo’s march to Armegeddon are Russia and China. Oh, I forgot, 1 biliion Arabs are also a problem, as is Pakistan’s unrest. Sorry, Neo-Cons, it is Israel and the USA….alone.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pmNow trolls, how would we do that without taxes??
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
Private companies, idiot.
Then, if a bridge collapsed, you just wouldn’t buy bridges from that company anymore.
The free market is the solution to everything.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pm“I’m not The Eck.”
No, I didn’t think you were.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pmJeebus Horatio Kreist, it’s down to JPark and five trolls.
Wow.
Comment by RUCerious — August 1, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
Hello RUC,
I saw the number count and was hoping for a cesspool party, but all I found was a damned used up outhouse party.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:00 amRU, I know they are outgunned but I can’t help it.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:00 amNo, Phil, you are not. You are suggesting doing unspeakable things in the middle east.
Comment by JPark — August 1, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
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How is full-blown Westernization “unspeakable”?
THEY’LL THANK US!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:01 am“Private companies, idiot.”
Are you stoned? What good do private companies do the government without taxes?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:01 amNow trolls, how would we do that without taxes??
Comment by RUCerious
I don’t know where the other “trolls” stand, but I support a 12 to 15% flat tax.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:01 amI’d like to do unspeakable things with The Eck.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 amOh, Phil, do you like glassblowing?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 amEgg or Lee J around tonight?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 amThe flat tax is totally regressive, Prime. When you talk flat taxes if you tax a poor person 12% you are taking 12% of his childrens food. With 12% of rich people you are taking 12% of his yacht. It is not fair.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 amI’d like to do unspeakable things with The Eck.
Comment by Michelle Malkin — August 2, 2007 @ 12:02 am
You’d probably cater to his needs….
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 amComment by swampgas — August 1, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
I take it you would rather shrivel up in a corner, only to be conquered by an empire that well eventually fail like they all do!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 amAre you stoned? What good do private companies do the government without taxes?
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:01 am
Well, yes, I am stoned. But not nearly as stoned as the IslamoFascists will be when I get done with them.
As for bridges, I don’t see why the government has to be involved at all. If someone wants to build a bridge, they can just hire somebody to build it.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 amLOL Eggy!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 amyou just wouldn’t buy bridges from that company anymore.
This IS a parody troll, isn’t it?
Anybody got the number of the Acme bridge Company?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 amHey Zooey,
What’s this about an outhouse party?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 amHehehe, Malkin.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 amRU, I know they are outgunned but I can’t help it.
Comment by JPark
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 amLOL!!
Full-blown Westernization!
Grrrrrowllll!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 am“Private companies, idiot.â€
Are you stoned? What good do private companies do the government without taxes?
Comment by JPark
I think you got punk’d. That looked to me like a hoax comment.
You need to take a break, get a drink, and gear up for a big day of pushing paper tomorrow. The trolls have been flailing around like a blind dog on thin ice. Relax.
ND: Johnny Walker Gold. You owe yourself a taste.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 amThe flat tax is totally regressive, Prime. When you talk flat taxes if you tax a poor person 12% you are taking 12% of his childrens food. With 12% of rich people you are taking 12% of his yacht. It is not fair.
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:04 am
I agree. A flat tax is totally unfair.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 am1) Shatter their sectarian identity with propaganda.
2) Shatter mosques and madrasas
3) Westernize the entire country.
Comment by Philonous
1) Their sectarian identity smashed with propaganda? How so when they have little power, television or newspapers? Besides their sectarian identity lies along blood lines.
2) They have been shattering mosques and madrassas and that has only increased the sectarian violence not quashed it. Secondly, Mr know nothing of Jesus, they see Jesus, Isaa, as a prophet. His name is mentioned in the Quran many times.
3) How can you westernise the country when they can’t even finish construction projects. And those that have been finished have been looted. Bechtel pulled out a year ago due to lack of security. The Laura Bush hospital in Basra was 150%. I don’t think they are even working on at this point.
Your ideas are overly simplistic, not well thought out and hardly feasible.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 am“I take it you would rather shrivel up in a corner, only to be conquered by an empire that well eventually fail like they all do!!!”
I take it you would rather talk tough rather than join up, right?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 amMM = Egregg
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 amgum, probably right…except for the punk’d comment. Companies do not do much for the government (at least not more than the average citizen).
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 amWhen you talk flat taxes if you tax a poor person 12% you are taking 12% of his childrens food. With 12% of rich people you are taking 12% of his yacht. It is not fair.
Comment by JPark
Totally fair point. I would be willing to agree with a waiver in paying taxes under a certain income.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 amI like it when Phil talks tough.
A lot.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 amPhil=Jake
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 amThe free market is the solution to everything.
Comment by Michelle Malkin — August 1, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
Sure, look at China. No regulation.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 amI’d like to do unspeakable things with The Eck.
Comment by Michelle Malkin
I’m kind of old fashioned.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 amZooey=Hillary
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:10 amPrime, I am not all that against that. I would have to look at it closer but a flat tax over 50,000 might work for me. Nobody is proposing that when they talk about a flat tax though.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:10 amYou’d probably cater to his needs….
Comment by Zooey
Hi Zooey!
All I require is a good meal, and you’ve won my heart.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 amI’m kind of old fashioned.
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Traditional values!
You do know how to sweet talk a girl, The Eck.
I’m getting moist.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 amThe free market is the solution to everything.
Comment by Michelle Malkin — August 1, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
Sounds like “Jesus is the way, truth and life” – discuss.
Ohg and my brain teaser from ealier – thanks to everyone who played. The correct answer was “Winston S. Churchill”.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 amI am not for taxing the hell out of the rich. However, taxing the poor is a very bad idea.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:12 amAll I require is a good meal, and you’ve won my heart.
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:11 am
That and a couple of beers.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:12 amI would have to look at it closer but a flat tax over 50,000 might work for me. Nobody is proposing that when they talk about a flat tax though.
Comment by JPark
I was thinking more under $20k but these details can be ironed out. Maybe something along the lines of a earned income tax credit under a flat tax? I wish one of the presidential contenders was advocating a flat tax.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:13 amgum, probably right…except for the punk’d comment. Companies do not do much for the government (at least not more than the average citizen).
Comment by JPark
No, my point is that “Michelle” is just playing games; the whole Ayn Rand shtick was just a gag.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:13 amtake it you would rather shrivel up in a corner, only to be conquered by an empire that well eventually fail like they all do!!!
Comment by Philonous
Actually the rulers partied and ate till they puked and then rolled themselves up in a corner, while the masses suffered from poverty.
The masses hardly shrivel up, they usually revolt and take out their corrupt and virtueless leaders. Thats why it is imperative today that our elected officials stop concentrating on global hegemony and start concentrating more on the salus populi while making sure their children do not become spoiled drunken egotistical people intent on wealth and self-empowerment.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:13 amOhg and my brain teaser from ealier – thanks to everyone who played. The correct answer was “Winston S. Churchillâ€.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 2, 2007 @ 12:11 am
So I was close with Ward Churchill?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:13 amThat and a couple of beers.
Comment by Martha Stewart
You know me well Martha.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:14 amOh, gum, I know MM is playing games. S(he) is a good wo(man)!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:14 amYou just keep talking about a flat tax, boys, and I’m all yours.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:15 amCan someone clue me in——
Are Philonous, our Mr Pee, and Ralph all one and the same?
I just went to Philonous’ webpage, it sounds exactly like Pee, and it says his name is “Ralph”.
It also says: “THE UNSPEAKABLE NIGHTMARE OF SOCIALIZED (SOCIALIST) MEDICINE, WHICH INEVITABLY RESULTS IN ISLAMOFASCISM!!!”
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:15 am“I was thinking more under $20k but these details can be ironed out”
I have made 20k. Taxes would have killed me. And what do you do if that guy has a child?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:15 amComment by swampgas — August 1, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
I take it you would rather shrivel up in a corner, only to be conquered by an empire that well eventually fail like they all do!!!
Comment by Philonous — August 2, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Are you talking about the US Empire? If so, the first tactic is detach yourself from culture and economic programming. From there, you simply watch your back, and enjoy the folly. Of course, if you still think the USA can regain it’s Eisenhower-era status, then be prepared to fight both physically and intellectually, and recognize the Corporate State and Military Industrial Complex is the enemy.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 amAyn Rand! Ayn Rand! Ayn Rand! Ayn Rand!
Oh, sweet Jesus!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 amNo, Keith, Phil is not Mr. P. I don’t know Ralph.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 amAll I require is a good meal, and you’ve won my heart.
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Martha’s here, she’ll help you out. :)
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 amWasn’t Michelle Malkin once complaining about “anchor babies” whne she was an “anchor baby” herself?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:17 amWow, Keith got deleted for mentioning Claypool.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:17 amYou know me well Martha.
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:14 am
Shhh, sweetie. That’s our little secret, OK?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:17 amKeith, don’t mention Mr. It is deletion, I guess.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:17 amI have made 20k. Taxes would have killed me. And what do you do if that guy has a child?
Comment by JPark
You would use the earned income tax credit and have it credited back to you.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 amHey, JPark, we’re evened up now. Good games! :D
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 amSo, you would be back to making 20k, Prime?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:19 amI know it Jane. I am proud of my fellow Brewer fans for giving Glavine a standing O.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:19 amPrime, when people talk about flat taxes they are talking about getting rid of loopholes and credits. There would be no EIC.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:20 amSome Iraqi shiteaters are gonna have to be slapped around a little, but that should be much of a problem.
I’ll do that part!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 amZooey=Hillary
Comment by Michelle Malkin — August 2, 2007 @ 12:10 am
Hell yeah, I’m getting me some Bill Clinton tonight.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 amPhil, we lost. Get over it.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 amLOL, Zoo, why do you want a Republican!!!!!???? :)
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 amHell yeah, I’m getting me some Bill Clinton tonight.
Comment by Zooey
Really? You dig Bill Clinton?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 amJane=Wayne
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 amThe free market is the solution to everything.
Comment by Michelle Malkin — August 1, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
Sounds like “Jesus is the way, truth and life†– discuss.
Hardly. Self-Moderation is the key to Free Markets. Power becomes too concentrated over time and disparity becomes high bringing forth poverty and monarchialism. The two are incompatible and will eventually, lead to collapse of America or a revolution. The collapse will not come from below but from above.
Jesus was against usury, he saw the inherent problems of society when we become too materialistic. Life, which is but energy [thought], is a discussion best left for another time. America was never meant to be an empire and when it becomes one it becomes Fascist, Monarchial, or Tyrannical, when analyzed they are the same, as those in power hold mightily onto it. Its a vicious cycle. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
Such is my take.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 amComment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:19 am
Yes, we noted that last night–thank you (and your fellow fans), that was classy!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 amPrime, when people talk about flat taxes they are talking about getting rid of loopholes and credits. There would be no EIC.
Comment by JPark
Good point. I’m fine with the $50k cut off.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 amYou dig Bill Clinton?
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:22 am
I’ve done him. Overrated.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 amSo Eck, are you going to go back to being a thinker instead of a troll?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 amHey, Jane. Tell Wayne I appreciate very much his words about my studies in the 1000 thread we did the other night. That was really nice. :}
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:24 amNo, Jane is married to Wayne.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:24 amJane, Brewer fans are not Cubs fans. We have some class :)
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:24 amGood point. I’m fine with the $50k cut off.
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:23 am
The Eck, I’m afraid it’s over between us.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:24 amComment by Philonous — August 2, 2007 @ 12:19 am
Mr Pee, you are one sick f*ck.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:24 amOk, Prime, though, as a cost accountant (though some of your brethren don’t believe me) I would have to do some pretty complex calculations. I think 50k would be close though.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:25 amAt single.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:26 amSo I was close with Ward Churchill?
Comment by Michelle Malkin — August 2, 2007 @ 12:13 am
You may be eye candy, but are you thick or what?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:26 amZoo, Phil is not MP
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:27 amSome Iraqi shiteaters are gonna have to be slapped around a little, but that should be much of a problem. I’ll do that part! Comment by Michelle Malkin
Well your certainly not gonna do it from a keyboard in America O’ brave internet finger warriors.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:27 amZmag, Chomsky:
For many years, it was claimed the core problem was Soviet subversion and expansionism, the reflexive justification for virtually all policies since the Bolshevik takeover in Russia in 1917. That pretext having vanished, it is now quietly conceded by the White House (March 1990) that in past years, the “threats to our interests” in the Middle East “could not be laid at the Kremlin’s door”; the doctrinal system has yet to adjust fully to the new requirements.
“In the future, we expect that non-Soviet threats to [our] interests will command even greater attention,” the White House continued in its annual plea to Congress for a huge military budget. In reality, the “threat to our interests,” in the Middle East as elsewhere, had always been indigenous nationalism, a fact stressed in internal documents and sometimes publicly
The sad thing is that it is SO obvious.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:27 amSo Eck, are you going to go back to being a thinker instead of a troll?
Comment by JPark
I’ve never really been a “troll.” I’m a conservative Republican, but most of my friends are Democrat. I see no reason to attack each other over the internet. It’s silly.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:27 amReally? You dig Bill Clinton?
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:22 am
That guy’s got some charisma going. Could do, and have done, worse.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:27 amJPark,
I’m Winona
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 amMark Twain=Samuel L. Clemens
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 amHonestly, the last month you have done nothing but insult Dems. I like you but that was just not good.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 amZoo, Phil is not MP
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:27 am
He’s been using that name for two days!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 amI am positive.
Philonous is Mr President. Not only because every single word he uses is exactly like Mr. P., but also because Mr P admits having many aliases from Greek philosophy.
And on his webpage, it says his name is “Ralph”. It’s is therefore not too big a leap to suppose that he is also “Ralph”.
On his webpage he says the Minnesota bridge collapse is the work of Leftists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 amPhil, no!!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 amEck, you are Phil too???
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 amWayne’s song parody got rescued on DKos.
Check it out!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:30 am“Jane=Wayne”
Comment by Michelle Malkin — August 2, 2007 @ 12:22 am
I don’t think so!
Hi, Juan C, I’ll tell Wayne ‘thanks’ for you!
Hey, Zoo, did you hear Wayne’s getting famous?:D
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 amKeith and Zoo, he has a Phil side too?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 amOn his webpage he says the Minnesota bridge collapse is the work of Leftists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Keith G — August 2, 2007 @ 12:29 am
They did it right after they caused Roberts’ seizure!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 amComment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:19 am
As well you should be. Like Jane said, we thought that was very classy of them to recognize that they could have been witnesses to the last man to win 300 games in a career. Too bad it didn’t work out for Tom. He’ll get ‘em next time.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 amZooey,
Philonous is definitely Mr. P—and probably Ralph.
He said the Minnesota bridge collapse is the work of leftists. On his webpage, he makes it look like a news story.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 amI haven’t seen Phil as Mr. P. I know the other person here is MP. It is possible they both are (Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde)
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 amHey, Zoo, did you hear Wayne’s getting famous?:D
Comment by Jane E. Schneider — August 2, 2007 @ 12:31 am
Oops, I guess you did!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 amOn his webpage he says the Minnesota bridge collapse is the work of Leftists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Keith G — August 2, 2007 @ 12:29 am
That’s a stupid website. Mr Pee thinks he’s some sort of intellectual, but he’s a moron.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 amWayne, I am glad we didn’t see 300. Nobody deserves it more than Glavine but we would be tied with the evil Cubs. That is just not ok.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:33 amThank you, Zooey. And thanks for the encouragement. I went ahead and put another one of my old ones (one of my first) up there. I was hoping they would find it “topical.” I liked it.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:33 amIn reality, the “threat to our interests,†in the Middle East as elsewhere, had always been indigenous nationalism – Choad Nomsky
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BwAhAHAHahaHAHAhAhahAHaHAhA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In reality, the problem is ethnic conflicts that had been suppressed by Soviet domination! “Indigenous nationalism”? Please, nations from the former Soviet Union are fighting civil wars and breaking up all the time! What winds up happening the formation of two or three new countries formed by conflicting ethnic groups that used to be part of the same nation.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:33 amGlavine needs to get 300 this week!!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:34 amHonestly, the last month you have done nothing but insult Dems. I like you but that was just not good.
Comment by JPark
You must have me confused with somebody else. I’ve only been posting here about a week on and off. We did have a helluva cess party over the weekend and I did get too drunk.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:34 amIn reality, Phil is a putz.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:34 amOk, Eck, you reminded me of someone else…who is apparently Phil…who deserves no respect.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 amComment by Philonous — August 2, 2007 @ 12:33 am
I couldn’t have said it better myself, Phil.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 amI haven’t seen Phil as Mr. P. I know the other person here is MP. It is possible they both are (Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde)
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:32 am
Remember, all trolls should be considered as one. Since Mr Pee is their king, all trolls are him.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 amThe Eck is a good thing.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 amComment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Don’t worry, he’ll get it next start.
Gotta go to bed–goodnight, all!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:37 amZoo, some of them are different…or they have there own divisions. There are the Jakes…and the Mikeys…and the Phils. They are different but all disgusting. I am an idiot to believe one once in awhile. I want to.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:37 amGo Glavine…against the Scrubs!!! Night Jane and Wayne.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:38 amGood night, Jane=Wayne.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:38 amThank you, Zooey. And thanks for the encouragement. I went ahead and put another one of my old ones (one of my first) up there. I was hoping they would find it “topical.†I liked it.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — August 2, 2007 @ 12:33
Wayne is getting famous! Hi Jane!!
Anyone who doesn’t look at Wayne’s song parodies on DKos (and his own site) is a loser troll!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:38 amMM, those are two people. Man and wife…
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:39 amOn his webpage he says the Minnesota bridge collapse is the work of Leftists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Keith G
Mr Ralph Malph is a RAD. Who lies continually, consumately and compulsively. I see it alot of it in America today. The media pundit idiocy contributes immensely to the problem. People are what you label them. Its quite insane really, and of course its a lie fomented by group think projectionism.
Mr P Ralph spews alot of lefty bilge about here, but I am willing if he went outside he would be hard pressed to find a ‘lefty’ and would eventually just run around accusing [lying] everybody of being one.
He might just also run up the workers on that bridge and start his televised idiot rant about some lefty conspiracy, the Illuminatti, and how they used top secret brain wave weapons and made Roberts have a seizure. He would also probably start fantasizing about weapons that could weaken metal that were used by some Islamofascist liberal left aliens from pluto.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:39 amZoo, are they on his site?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:39 amI am blocked from DailyKommunist.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:39 amLets see:
On one hand, Chomsky, the man who found out about the “speak organ” in humans, a man who is an encyclopedia and has had talks in West Point.
On the other hand: Mr. “Saudis are not Muslims”, “Russia is an Islamic country” and “leftists (sic) brought down the bridge in Minnesota” P.
Gee… tough one.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 amI CAN’T go to Kos. I refuse. I will go to Wayne’s site though.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 amJPark=JPark
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 amLOL, I was hijacked once but I don’t think anybody believed it.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:41 amHe might just also run up the workers on that bridge and start his televised idiot rant about some lefty conspiracy, the Illuminatti, and how they used top secret brain wave weapons and made Roberts have a seizure. He would also probably start fantasizing about weapons that could weaken metal that were used by some Islamofascist liberal left aliens from pluto.
Sounds like my afternoon. Hey, have you been following me?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:42 amJPark,
Wayne’s Bill O’Reilly parody is here.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:43 amLOL, I was hijacked once but I don’t think anybody believed it.
Comment by JPark
I was hijacked as well. Somebody posting as “The Hack.” Can you believe that sh*t!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:43 amHylas and Philonous is the title of a book of philosophical discussion.
Mr. Pee is both and all is one.
Mr Pee, urined’nile
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:43 amIn reality, the problem is ethnic conflicts that had been suppressed by Soviet domination!
See there he goes again with is lefty conspiracy rants.
[Wacko]
Like in Afganistan during the Soviet invasion Mr PIP? You know where they got beat by them durn Muslims, those Freedom Fighters?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:43 amZooey, you made me go to Kos!!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 amI can’t belive Lowes and Home Depot pulled out of advertising on the O’Reilly Factor. Bill is lucky this is not big news, because it is quite damaging.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 amI can’t belive Lowes and Home Depot pulled out of advertising on the O’Reilly Factor. Bill is lucky this is not big news, because it is quite damaging.
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:44 am
I’ve always bought my power tools online anyway.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 amPhil, thanks for letting me know who you are with the Winona. I will never defend you again. You don’t deserve it.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 amZahava = Zooey. lol
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 amHylas and Philonous is the title of a book of philosophical discussion.
Mr. Pee is both and all is one.
Mr Pee, urined’nile
Comment by Keith G
Hylas was Hercules’ catamite.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 amReally Eck? :)
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 amSounds like my afternoon. Hey, have you been following me?
Comment by Michelle Malkin
Please, us hive minded Aliens, can bio-locate [manifest] and follow you anywhere and we are all around you. Haven’t you noticed?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:48 amI had a catamite sandwich in the land down under.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 amZooey, you made me go to Kos!!!!
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:44 am
You can do it for Wayne!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 amI’ve always bought my power tools online anyway.
Comment by Michelle Malkin — August 2, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Were you responsible for the power grid failure? ;)
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 amIslamoBio-Locators! I knew it!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 amThe Brits have the same crap, Marmite.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 amI will never defend you again.
That’s cool. I’ll still help you out if you are in a jam, though. It’s the neocon way. We’re a caring bunch.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 amI just went to Kos for the first time in my life!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 amZahava = Zooey. lol
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Everyone knew but you. Heh.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 amZooey, I may squint my eyes and copy it. Maybe.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 amNo, Phil, that is not the neo-con way. You will stick your thumb up my…
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 amI hate being me. I know nothing about me.
Except internment camps.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:52 amI just went to Kos for the first time in my life!
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:50 am
Tell Ms Luna hi.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:52 amHylas and Philonous is the title of a book of philosophical discussion.
Mr. Pee is both and all is one
Actually, no. I am not Mr PIP. I like to mess with Mr P, Mr PIP, Ralph Malph, Rachelâ„¢, Primus Arse, and whatever other moniker the looney conspiracist comes up with.
-Hylas/PICOT
Mr P calls me Roy G Bivins after I rattle his cage. =)
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:53 amMs Luna=Pelosi
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:53 amPhil, I thought you were Eck. He is you before you went nuts.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:53 amPhil, I thought you were Eck. He is you before you went nuts.
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:53 am
Is that what we have to look forward to with The Eck?
NOT a good thing.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 amHylas was Hercules’ catamite.
Comment by gummitch
That’s a relief, I was afraid it was homosexual.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 amPossibly, Martha.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 amExcept internment camps.
Comment by Michelle Malkin
Max Blumenthal says hello and wonders why you didn’t sign his picture.
Says that was just rude of you.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 amI think Eck is Phil. Eck is the good cop. Phil only showed himself to me after I called Eck out on who he was.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:56 amComment by PICOT ORION — August 2, 2007 @ 12:53 am
Hello, PO. Welcome to the smelly troll outhouse party!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:57 amMax Muslimthal can kiss my a$$!
Whether I am capable of signing my own name is none of his business.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:57 amMM, those are two people. Man and wife…
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:39 am
ugh… update: HUSBAND and wife…
…
that bridge collapse is amazing…
heavy stuff and gravity… awesome…
condolences and best wishes to all affected…
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:58 am…
I think Eck is Phil. Eck is the good cop. Phil only showed himself to me after I called Eck out on who he was.
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 12:56 am
Not true! I could tell them apart in the dark!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:59 amNo, Martha, MP had that side. I know Eck is Primus. The side of him I got along with.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 amNah, husband and woman.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 amthat bridge collapse is amazing…
heavy stuff and gravity… awesome…
Comment by katy — August 2, 2007 @ 12:58 am
If only the terrorists had done it!
*weeping*
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 amAnyway, I really like Ware. He and Christiane Amanpour are the only journalists on mainstream media who are both knowledgeable and honest about the Middle East.
Also on Amy Goodman’s Democracy Now (FSTV & LinkTV) you can get journalists like Robert Fisk and Jeremy Scahill.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:01 amHello, PO. Welcome to the smelly troll outhouse party!
Comment by Zooey
Hello Zoohava =P Howz iz youz?
Well trolls do like those cess-pools that collect under those mouldy bridges.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:01 amNot true! I could tell them apart in the dark!
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 2, 2007 @ 12:59 am
True, you’d know Eck anywhere, wouldn’t you? :D
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:02 amyou’d think it WAS a terrist attack for all the news coverage…
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:02 am…
I think Eck is Phil.
Comment by JPark
Nope. Not the best evidence, but post 943 and 944 were posted at the same time.
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That’s cool. I’ll still help you out if you are in a jam, though. It’s the neocon way. We’re a caring bunch.
Comment by Philonous — August 2, 2007 @ 12:50 am
I just went to Kos for the first time in my life!
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 12:50 am
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:02 amAnd Eck is Exley. Trolls. Ew.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:03 amMichelle, please don’t pretend you could actually weep.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 amI know Eck is Primus.
Comment by JPark
Nope, that’s not right either. Sometimes an Eck is just an Eck, though I did wonder why you kept calling me Primus. I took it as a compliment.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 amSo, Eck, instead of playing games, what are you saying?
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 amExley, yuk.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:05 amWhether I am capable of signing my own name is none of his business.
Comment by Michelle Malkin
I like using a sharpy to scribble with.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:05 amI don’t think The Eck knew me when he first showed up.
Phil had already been here awhile and knew things about me I didn’t know myself.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:06 amComment by Keith G — August 2, 2007 @ 1:01 am
The true journalist pool is getting smaller and smaller.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:07 ami missed olbermann tonight, the rebroadcast…
did he have his regular show?
the bridge collapsed an hour before it airs…
just curious…
he was on live, reporting, until a while ago…
now dan abrams is discussing “are our bridges safe?”…
i’m off… g’nite all…
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:07 amMM, I didn’t know who you were either.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:07 amMM, I didn’t know who you were either.
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 1:07 am
I sometimes put on this Hitler mustache so people won’t recognize me.
Or is that the other way around?
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:09 amAnd Eck is Exley. Trolls. Ew.
Comment by JPark — August 2, 2007 @ 1:03 am
The Eck is just The Eck, JPark. :)
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:09 amIf The Eck is Exley, I think I’m going to be sick.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 amI don’t buy it Zoo.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 amAnd if I don’t buy it, it probably isn’t worth buying. I give them more chances than anybody.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:11 amThe Eck has always been more than friendly … even if he won’t make eye contact with me anymore.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:11 amMartha, Eck acts just like MP before he became a total jagoff. Maybe I am wrong but I don’t think so.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:12 amHello Zoohava =P Howz iz youz?
Well trolls do like those cess-pools that collect under those mouldy bridges.
Comment by PICOT ORION — August 2, 2007 @ 1:01 am
I am good, Picot O. Not sticking around too long tonight. :)
This thread just isn’t as fun as our cesspool party, sadly enough. Maybe I’m too sober.
It said on MSNBC that there’s a tsunami warning in Japan because of an earthquake off the Sakahlin Island. Pat Robertson must be peeing his pants — end times!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:13 amKarl, I need a new talking point.
All I have left here is:
“We’re fighting them there so our bridges don’t collapse here.”
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:13 amThat’s cool. I’ll still help you out if you are in a jam, though. It’s the neocon way. We’re a caring bunch.
Comment by Philonous
Thats so absurd it’s ridiculous.
Okay, I am a now a Lie-o-Straussian Neo-Con Philosopher, who does not know or believe in Jesus, adore Machavellia, who believes I should lie to you, Noble like. Show me your love.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:14 amMight as well stick around for 1000.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:14 amNight all. Don’t believe Eck. He is MP.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:14 amThe Eck has always been more than friendly … even if he won’t make eye contact with me anymore.
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 2, 2007 @ 1:11 am
I think that blackout the other night spooked him, dear.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:15 amMight as well stick around for 1000.
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 2, 2007 @ 1:14 am
It’s just not as satisfying as last time…. :{
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:17 amGoodnight, JPark!
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:18 amHey Philo, you got a spare picture of Trotsky I can have for my wall of solidarity?
HeyYyyYyOoOOoOOOooOoOooOoOOOOOoOOOoOOoOOoOooOoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad to hear your food Zoo. I wasn’t drunk the night of the cesspool party and bailed out early. =(
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:18 amI did it. I really, really did it.
[I had inside information].
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:19 amYou gave up too soon, Martha. :)
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:19 amI better call it a night. I need to start marinating some artichokes for breakfast.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:21 am*Good = food.
Sorry for the typo 8^P
Glad your good.
1000 YiPPeE YaY YaY!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:21 amGoodnight, beautiful.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:21 amOk, I am going to bed but I never called Phil Primus. I called Eck Primus. Phil claimed I called him that. It is proof enough for me. Night :)
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:21 amGlad to hear your food Zoo. I wasn’t drunk the night of the cesspool party and bailed out early. =(
Comment by PICOT ORION — August 2, 2007 @ 1:18 am
My food? :D
I’m bailing in about 10 minutes. Temps dropped finally, and sleep will be possible. :)
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:22 amGoodnight, beautiful.
Comment by Martha Stewart
It’s Egg!
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:22 amIt’s Egg!
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 1:22 am
You remembered! I’m so touched.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:23 amGoodnight, Martha. Wish I was having some of those artichokes — for lunch. :)
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:24 amIt’s Egg!
Comment by The Eck — August 2, 2007 @ 1:22 am
Heh.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:25 amThis article isn’t what I thought it would be from the headline.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:28 amSorry Eck, we can be a
n evilfun bunch.I promise, I’ll always be Zooey from now on, except when I’m Mistress Z.
Zehava was too good for me. :-)
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:28 amThis article isn’t what I thought it would be from the headline.
Comment by Martha Stewart — August 2, 2007 @ 1:28 am
Wow. I bet that was disappointing. :-D
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:30 amPat Robertson must be peeing his pants — end times!!
Comment by Zooey
Im sure he’s thrilled that they beat those communist lefties in destroying the world!! What a Bizarre planet we live on. We have people that actually want to destroy the world just so the other guy can’t. KraZzzzZzzeeee!! And the guy that destroys it first wins a free trip to heaven and 70 virgins!!! Cuckoo Cuckoo.
I’m bailing in about 10 minutes. Temps dropped finally, and sleep will be possible. :) Comment by Zooey.
Rained here again this evening and cooled off somewhat.
Ennyhoo sleep well and don’t let them manifest alien watchers steal your dreams [like they did on Mr Pee - it drove him crazy =]
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:31 amEnnyhoo sleep well and don’t let them manifest alien watchers steal your dreams [like they did on Mr Pee - it drove him crazy =]
Comment by PICOT ORION — August 2, 2007 @ 1:31 am
Yep, destroy the world to save the world — that’s making sense! Not.
Mr Pee got driven crazy? That’s not a drive, it’s a short putt. :D
My dreams are safe because I welcome and appreciate them. :)
Goodnight, ZT, Egg & all!
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:36 amGoodnight Zooey.
Night Mr. P (if you’re here).
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:39 amHi Michelle. For the record, you are much more attractive than Ann Coulter.
Comment by The Eck — August 1, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
*sigh*
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 amI really do!
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 amOh, I’m always here…………………………………………………………………
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August 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 am.
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don’t worry, I’ll give the message to KKKarl in the morning!
The Eck is a dreamboat!
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 amnull
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:52 amPhilo, that has to to be one of the dumbest web sites I have ever read.
It reminds me of the Nutwork daily news except it’s nuttier and without a nutwork. But I suppose thats what happens when you read/take your cues from the National Enquirer and put them on a weblog.
You talk much about PIAPS but never say what it is.
The site is surely a parody of the irrational rightwing fundamentalists. Even a fundid wouldn’t read that clap.
August 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 amActually, what moron would take the word of Bill Kristol or Dick Cheney over the word of Ware? When was the last time either of them was proven right?
Comment by Marie — August 1, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
“The last time either of them was proven right,” you ask! When were Broken Kristol-ball and Dickhead ever proven right?
August 2nd, 2007 at 7:33 amIt’s high time to lock the entire Bush regime behind bars.
August 2nd, 2007 at 8:37 amNotice how Cheney often adds the phrase “in fact” to give false credence to preposterous statements.
August 2nd, 2007 at 10:29 amLOL. There’s great progress! Violence is down! But I’m …er… on a night vision camera because I might get shot.
Unbelievable.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 pmTo all that are riding Obama about invading Pakistan;this just in;Lee Hamilton a member in good standing with the bush crime family at the dhs and i qoute “We must be clear with Gen. Musharraf that if Pakistan won’t take out al-qaida,the united states will.”Hum.Sounds like the rethugs have stolen another liberal idea or vis versa.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmLet’s send Bush and Co to a Baghdad
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 pmLet’s send Bush and co to a Baghdad hotel.
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:03 pmAm I still blocked? Testing
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:39 pmDon’t know why I was blocked last night.
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:40 pmI got a Hot Newsflash!! Mr. P’s webpage says yesterday’s bridge destruction was done by a HRClinton front group!
That’s: americaphile.blogspot.com
August 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmWare has a lot of credibility on this war. Unlike O’Hanlon and Pollack he has no political agenda. O’Hanlon and Pollack are not war critics as CNN claimed. They are eager war proponents. Bush and Cheney are using their op-ed to build support for the surge which has failed. Their op-ed painted a rosy picture of the surge. It showed progress when that is not the case. The neo-conservatives are having a hard time admitting that their grand plan to bring democracy to the Middle East has overwhelmingly failed.
August 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmMinnesotans wanted a tax break and they got one. Time to re-think our state’s priorities. get rid of pawlenty.
August 3rd, 2007 at 2:20 amIf Michael Ware was emedded with me, and fighting started he would be the first causality….. If you want to know the truth, read the facts. MNF-Iraq.com, press releases
Read chapter 27 The house from hell, from No true glory
http://smallwarsjournal.com/documents/swjmag/v3/west_no_true_glory.htm.
get your heads right guys, these are our country men and women fighting the war. Michael is not reporting news, but Entertainment.
azdesert,
August 9th, 2007 at 9:21 pmBlog says: “Bush and Cheney are using their op-ed to build support for…” I say: what op-ed? They have none! I’m an independent conservative and detest Bush/Cheney for all the reasons liberals don’t, but rest assured; this administration has zero support in the media. I was among the first to decry this new Vietnam, but amazingly enough – the Iraqis seem to be finally coming to the realization their best interests lay with America not Al Quaida. Their decision was helped along when the terrorists (that weren’t supposed to be there) started executing women for not wearing the veil, and chopping off men’s fingers for smoking. The Sunnis have realized they had made a deal with the devil and now they are helping us. Bear in mind all three Democrat candidates are developing new policy platforms to keep troops in Iraq. Read it and weep: http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=47164
August 13th, 2007 at 12:50 pm