In an interview with the Politico, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said that Chief Justice John Roberts “has made the court an arm of the Republican Party.” The senator voted to confirm Roberts “because he knew Roberts was going to be confirmed anyway and did not want a party-line vote that would encourage Roberts to believe that he was ‘an appointment of the Republican Party.’ But that is what has happened anyway, Leahy said.” (More on the court’s right-wing shift HERE.)
Kinda feel like a dumbshit for voting for confirmation, huh>?
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:07 amLeahy is losing his f-ing mind! No wonder Cheney was taken back!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 amSo let me get this straight: Leahy didn’t want Roberts to be confirmed, but he voted for him anyway? A true Democrat!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:12 amWe feel sorry for you to admit that you are complicit in this act. Either fix it, or retire. This is a huge insult to the people of this country
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:12 amRoberts told the Judiciary Committee what they wanted to hear. Whether he was telling the truth or not didn’t enter into the equation. Republicans lie to Congress (and the American public) as a matter of course.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:12 amIf you give these criminals an inch, it’s a sign of weakness. Sometimes, aggression must be met with overwhelming aggression. This is where the dems have failed. There is no bipartisanship, there is no consensus, there is no “being reasonable” with these thugs.
The dems have failed to realize the depth to which the thugs have sunk and will continue to sink, nor their commitment to destroying the government of the USA. Make no mistake, when Grover Norquist says he wants to make the US Government small and weak enough to drown it in the bathtub, it’s not rhetorical.
We’ve brought our best debaters to a gunfight.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:14 amLeahy deserves a “Duh” for this. It also shows how votes are used in manners other than what the public would think. I believed that my representative would vote for or against something based on his/her convictions and support from their constituants. Not to go along with the crowd in congress.
I have more respect for the lone congressmen/women that stand on principle.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 amWhy is the BBC reporting Voter Caging letters being sent out The Republican Party to Black Students at their Residence Halls after summer semester is over, but weeks before Fall Semester begins? Why is the Justice Department investigating non existant voter Fraud and announcing indictments within days of an election and then having them thrown out as unsubstantiated after the election?
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:16 amWhy were the Federal Prosecutors Fired?
Because the Republican’s control The Supreme Court and they know they have to steal elections. The Bork Treason or 1975, followed by The Ken Starr Treason of 1996, The Rhenquist/Scalia/Thomas Treason of 2000, followed the Strickland/Ohio Treason of 2004 will be followed by The Roberts Treason of 2008.
they need to understand & LEARN that *THATS WHAT HAPPENS ANYWAY*…so dont support it!!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:17 amHe’s only upset because the court isn’t an arm of the Democrat Party.
Is there a point to this thread?
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 am#8. What are you, 12 years old? How about adding something to the dialogue?
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 amIf you give these criminals an inch, it’s a sign of weakness. Sometimes, aggression must be met with overwhelming aggression. This is where the dems have failed. There is no bipartisanship, there is no consensus, there is no “being reasonable†with these thugs.
The dems have failed to realize the depth to which the thugs have sunk and will continue to sink, nor their commitment to destroying the government of the USA. Make no mistake, when Grover Norquist says he wants to make the US Government small and weak enough to drown it in the bathtub, it’s not rhetorical.
We’ve brought our best debaters to a gunfight.
Comment by Marcus Aruelius — August 2, 2007 @ 11:14 am
That post was definitely worth repeating! Democratic Party - are you listening?! The time is way past for the gloves TO COME OFF!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 amunless you’re the head of a Fortune 500 company, or the head of a multinational conglomerate, I’d suggest you STFU and start standing up for your own interests. You are a sucker. PT Barnum called, he’s looking for you.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 amif you don’t see the point, you must be blind. Keep telling yourself that voting against your own best interests, is what you need to do for yourself. That’ll work. See you on the bread line.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 am#10. It’s conservatives who have threatened to murder judges, not liberals. AND, you hillbillies own all the guns anyway. Hahaha!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:23 amWow - someone sure likes telling everyone to Go Cheney Yourself! Must do well in social settings…
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:23 amtypical evangelical repuglican bullshit. if someone else commits a crim WE can commit crimes. your ethical and moral compass are broken dickhead.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 amLooks like “enough already” has the mental capacity of a four-year-old. Typical.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 amWe know dead people voted in King County that year!!!
Comment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:20 am
Despite the absurd claims by all the shrill republicans, they were never able to prove any dead person voted in King County, or that anything more then a handful of ballots were unofficial.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 amGore should never have conceded. He should have gone balls to the wall and fought like he’s never fought before.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 amAND Bush v. Gore was Al Gore’s fault
Um, Bush was the one who initiated the lawsuit, genius.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:25 amMichael Savage thinks Roberts’ seizure was a result of Democrats doing “something” to cause it. Maybe Leahy sneaked up behind him and yelled, “BOO!”
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 amAND after Roe is overturned, my money is a liberal attempt to murder conservative justices. I guarantee you thugs are capable of it.
Comment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:17 am
Maybe Cheney will invite them over for quail hunting.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 amenough already,
Thanks for your thoughtful posts.
It’s refreshing to hear clear-headed comments at TP.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:27 am“It was totally out of hand.”
Comment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:22 am
How so? Please site the decisions which you have found so “out of hand”. You’ve mentioned that incredibly rare PBA but nothing else
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:29 amWow - someone sure likes telling everyone to Go Cheney Yourself! Must do well in social settings…
Comment by margaret — August 2, 2007 @ 11:23 am
Isn’t it amazing? These nutjobs have the SCOTUS doing what they *think* they want the court to do, and STILL they’re unhappy and bitter.
Jeebus….
I’m gone for the day! Yay!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:29 amSo, exactly what good will come to you from your assinine support of a group to which you don’t, and to which you will never, belong? Look into a mirror and straight into your own eyes, and repeat this: I was wrong about everything.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:29 amI just sent Sen Leahy a note, He’s my sen, told him his excuse was pathetic.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 amWell for decades it use to be the arm of the liberals in the Democratic party….oh well.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:31 amenough already
There are 2 sitting justices who were Democrat nominees. Every other judge was appointed by a Republican.
Not only that, since 1969 only those 2 judges on the Supreme Court were nominated by non-Republicans.
The facts do not agree with your propaganda.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:31 amMichael Savage thinks Roberts’ seizure was a result of Democrats doing “something†to cause it. Maybe Leahy sneaked up behind him and yelled, “BOO!â€
Comment by Candyce
It was the secret signal decoder ring laser that they hit him from the super-stealth invisible jet plane that took off earlier in the day from that secret Democrat bat cave, hidden in Armpit, Missouri.
shhhh…. don’t tell the Republicans.
Yeah that’s what happened….. =P
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:32 amSomeone should tell Leahy that you are supposed to vote whether you think the candidate is honorable or not to sit on the Supreme Court bench. Using the vote to make a “point” or “extend a feeling” is stupidity that bites you in the arse.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:32 am“my money is a liberal attempt to murder conservative justices. I guarantee you thugs are capable of it.” - - I see you’ve swallowed Michael Savage’s contention that Democrats were behind Roberts’ seizure. Enjoy your extended stay in fantasyland.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:32 am#8 - “Quit crying. The Court has long been an arm of the liberal establishment - it was so far left that Democrats had to shy away from it.” Comment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:15 am
And your proof for this calumny?
I’m sure you’ll complain loudly when the SC votes to remove your first amendment rights in favor of big business.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:32 amIsn’t it Bush Republican Ann Coulter who called for the poisoning of Justice Stevens creme brulee?
Oh, sorry, I must be projecting.
-GSD
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:32 am#37 - “Well for decades it use to be the arm of the liberals in the Democratic party….oh well.” Comment by Tracy — August 2, 2007 @ 11:31 am
And your proof for this calumny?
Let me guess, you don’t have any proof, just unconfirmed assertions.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 amI don’t understand the logic seen in this comment thread of: “liberals are immoral, therefore it’s ok that conservatives are immoral”. It’s the same logic of: “Clinton was a bad president, so it’s ok that Bush is a bad president”. Hellooooooo. We should strive to be moral. We should strive for ZERO corruption. Lying is wrong.
I just don’t get it. When Group A fails, they blame it on Group B. When Group B fails, they blame it on Group A. Then everyone argues over the details. We are all in the same group. When a republican fails, then ALL OF US FAIL. When a democrat fails, then ALL OF US FAIL. When one congressman is corrupt, then it’s ALL OUR FAULT.
Enough bickering.
~Sean
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 amSO MUCH FOR POSITIVE ACTION!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 am#30 - “It’s refreshing to hear clear-headed comments at TP.” Comment by Ringo — August 2, 2007 @ 11:27 am
Since not a single clear-headed comment comes from you at all.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 am“Whah! Leahy was mean to Roberts after Roberts had a seizure”.
Look for this meme to show up on right wing blogs very shortly as the rightwingers mount a Swift Boat counter attack on Leahy.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 amLeahy’s just deciding now that SCOTUS is an arm of the Republican Party? After the Senate Dems voted unanimously to confirm Scalia, gave 11 votes to Thomas, (which was the deciding factor in his confirmation, since he was only approved by 4 votes), and pooh-poohed any notion of blocking the Alito and Roberts confirmations? The veteran Democrats in both the House and Senate, (with the possible exception of Ted Kennedy), are a neurotic, vacillating, politically tone-deaf and sad group
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 amDemocrat Soldier
Particularly seen as the decades he is talking about - had the Democrat nominees as being the minority on the supreme court.
And if you don’t believe me Tracy, go look it up yourself, after all, I am sure you are not a outright liar now are you? /sarcasm
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 amI think it’s time for this country to take a time out.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 amThoughtful? Clear-headed?
Circle jerk much?
Comment by Luis M — August 2, 2007 @ 11:31 am
Compared to the usual feces that litter these threads from wingtards, those are thoughtful and clear-headed. Just shows how desperate they are now.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 amenough already
5 out of 7 are Republicans. Since 1969 only those 2 have been nominated by non-Republicans.
So take your propaganda, your lies, and your brainless assertions, and shove them right where you keep your gerbil, because we aren’t buying it.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 amLeahy showed no leadership…
You vote your conscious,regardless.
You hear these days also representatives and Senator saying we will not impeach,like Speaker Pulosi and Senator Biden..because we don’t have the vote.
Does the Constitution say…You impeach only when you have the ‘votes’, or because ‘crimes have been committed’?.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 amWe know dead people voted in King County that year!!!
enuf
Are you like the kid in Sixth Sense, you can see dead people??
Why didn’t the FBI think there was a case?
What do you know that the FBI didn’t?
Tell it to Bruce Willis. Oh, wait, he’s dead too!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:40 amwell, here’s some good news… i didn’t see that TP covered this:
House Votes to Overturn Court on Pay
Tuesday, July 31, 2007; 4:51 PM
WASHINGTON — The House voted Tuesday to reverse the Supreme Court’s decision limiting the time that workers have to sue their employers for pay discrimination.
The Bush administration has threatened to veto the legislation, pushed almost entirely by Democrats.
The House voted 225-199 to restart the statute of limitations for pay discrimination lawsuits each time an employee gets a paycheck affected by sexism or racism, repudiating a decision by the high court’s five most conservative justices.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:41 am[…]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 07/ 31/ AR2007073101085.html
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AND after Roe is overturned, my money is a liberal attempt to murder conservative justices. I guarantee you thugs are capable of it.
Comment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:17 am
This comment is a very sick accusation — sicker than most trolls would post. In case you haven’t noticed, we “thugs” are working within our constitutional system to bring about change and reclaim our country from the crooks who have hijacked it. We “thugs” aren’t the ones referring to the constitution as a “g-d d-mn piece of paper”, we aren’t the ones obstructing justice, we aren’t the ones outing covert agents, we aren’t the ones trampling the civil rights of Americans.
Unless you can provide evidence that liberals murder officials in order to effect change or even some proof to back up your guarantee that we are “capable of it”, I request you apologize for that outrageous remark.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 am“The public seems to have noticed the shift. The percentage who said the court is “too conservative” grew from 19 percent to 31 percent in the past two years, while those who said it is “generally balanced in its decisions” declined from 55 percent to 47 percent.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 07/ 28/ AR2007072800645.html?hpid=topnews
Spin the numbers however your fancy takes you Mr enough, the trend is clear.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:46 amenough already, when you quote only the portion of polls that appear to support your view, you lost credibility. Let’s look at the latest ABC poll on the matter.
WASHINGTON, July 28 (UPI) — The percentage of U.S. voters who think the Supreme Court is too conservative has jumped from 19 percent to 31 percent in two years, a new poll found.
The shift follows President George W. Bush’s nomination of Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, which has changed the ideological balance on the court. Since July 2005, the percentage of people who describe the court as “generally balanced in its decisions” has fallen from 55 percent to 47 percent, The Washington Post-ABC poll found.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:47 amAND after Roe is overturned, my money is a liberal attempt to murder conservative justices. I guarantee you thugs are capable of it.
Comment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:17 am
Ann Coulter’s certainly willing to do it. Oh wait, she’s a fascist not a liberal… sorry.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:48 am#55 - lol!!! The Court can just rule it unconstitutional. Sucks not to get your way, doesn’t it?
Comment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:43 am
On what grounds? Name an amendment or provision which says that Congress cannot change civil non-constitutional law, or that shows this change to be unconstitutional.
Oh, wait, I forgot, you are an American the same way you are a Christian, you haven’t actually read what the law or the Bible says, you just like to pretend to believe in them.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:48 amTerrytheTurtle,
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:48 amThe numbers are shifting because of Leftist Propagan from the media and Blogs!
Despite the absurd claims by all the shrill republicans, they were never able to prove any dead person voted in King County, or that anything more then a handful of ballots were unofficial.
Comment by krazny
And the person certifying the election results was . . . a Republican.
The conservatives can’t stand that they lost and have been whining about cheating ever since the election. And then they mock liberals who complain about the shady dealings in 2000. Cry baby hypocrites, the Republics are.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:49 amwant a little cheese with that whine
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:49 amWhy do you Lefties complaijn about everything?
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:49 amYou’re all a miserable lot!
I think it’s time for this country to take a time out.
Comment by Arroyo — August 2, 2007 @ 11:36 am
———–
Did you look forward to daddy spanking you?
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 amenough already with enough already. His post at 53 says it all. He doesn’t care about actual justice from the highest court in the land. He wants to screw the other guy.
I am encouraged to see dissappointment in Leahy from the solid posters here. No lock step blind following.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 amThe shift follows President George W. Bush’s nomination of Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, which has changed the ideological balance on the court. Since July 2005, the percentage of people who describe the court as “generally balanced in its decisions†has fallen from 55 percent to 47 percent, The Washington Post-ABC poll found.
Comment by Candyce
The shift matches the increasingly-conservative decisions issuing from SCOTUS. The numbers being pointed to by the conservatrons are based on decisions prior to the most recent session.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 amAND yes, when Roe is overturned, I fully expect the left to go nuts and assasination will be on the table. I am sure of it.
Comment by enough already
Sorry, it is only right wing nutjobs, like your hero Ann Coulter, that call for the killing of Supreme Court Judges, not “liberals”.
you are a lying piece of crap, dimwit.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 amComment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:42 am
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The SCOTUS has been owned and operated by the republicans for almost 30 years. What makes you think they would overturn Roe v Wade this decade? Also, what would that accomplish? Many states had similar laws locally on the books before Roe, which BTW was a right to privacy case.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:53 amTerrytheTurtle,
The numbers are shifting because of Leftist Propagan from the media and Blogs!
Comment by Ghidorah — August 2, 2007 @ 11:48 am
Wow, would that statement would be backed up by a host of sourced references, right? It must be or I would have to conclude you are full of sh*t. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and wait for your sources.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 amWayne,
All yo do is complain everyday.
You’re a miserable soul!
Get a life!
U 2 Chris L!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:55 amh to the izzo,
What up?!
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:56 amLOL the republicans won’t overturn Roe Vs. Wade, it is way to easy of a wedge issue to get the sheep in line.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:56 amwe’ll have a chance to see that in the next couple years. After we defeat Hitlery at the polls in 2008, we’ll get another good conservative on there.
Comment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:52 am
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Yes, because you did so well in the 2006 elections, right? As long as the republicans continue the mantra of staying in Iraq for the next 50 years and attacking Iran, the democrats won’t even have to campaign. The repubs are doing all their work for them.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:57 ammissmolly - how does it feel to have someone to say that about you?
Comment by enough already — August 2, 2007 @ 11:47 am
If I made a baseless accusation that a person or group of people would murder somebody with NO evidence whatsoever, I would expect others on this forum to call me on it.
I have said a lot of things about Bush, about Cheney, and about all our our elected and appointed officials (from both parties). But I keep it on the topic of the thread, or in direct response to another post. And I often provide links to back up what I say. I believe you will find most people who post here at TP will say my posts are fair.
And I have NEVER claimed that Republicans would murder Democrats to hold onto power or for any other political reason.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:57 amwell shit sakes, Pat - you sat there and let/watched them do it, since the Reagan Administration. Maybe Pat shouldn’t be reminding us of something that he should have made part of his mission statement decades ago: “preventing wild-eyed reactionary zealots from stacking the Supreme Court with yes-men”.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:59 amTerrytheTurtle, asking for sources works as good as Troll-B-Gone.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:00 pmenough already - If you’re sick of the truth you hear on this site, I have a simple solutionFeed your fantasies at Little Green Footballs or NRO or Fixed News, etc. You’ll be more comfortable among your fellow mouthbreathers.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:01 pmComment by Ghidorah
This troll is too stupid to even respond to.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:01 pmTerryturtle,
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 pmYou guys control The Congress, The Internet, The media, Hollywood and next year Hillary will win.
Stop complaining you guys have built up the apparatus for Stalinist Stae.
You’re gonna run things for at least 50 years!
With all that propaganda you’ll silence Conservatives and Libertarians for at least 2 generations.
Then when you become corrupt with power, your system will collapse like the Soviet Union.
Enjoy your Totalitarian power comimg!
LOL the republicans won’t overturn Roe Vs. Wade, it is way to easy of a wedge issue to get the sheep in line.
Comment by krazny — August 2, 2007 @ 11:56 am
Exactly. They’d have to find a new boogeyman. Besides, if Roe v. Wade was overturned, it would galvanize a whole ‘nother layer of voters who are pretty much resting in dormant apathy right now. It would be a long time before Repubs would be a force to be reckoned with again.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 pmLeahy,
There was a time when I had the utmost respect for you. No more, arsehole!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 pmTerrytheTurtle,
The numbers are shifting because of Leftist Propagan from the media and Blogs!
Comment by Ghidorah — August 2, 2007 @ 11:48 am
Wow, would that statement would be backed up by a host of sourced references, right? It must be or I would have to conclude you are full of sh*t. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and wait for your sources.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
The three heads of Ghidorah will be consulting with Mothra and getting right back to you.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 pmwhy are all those republican guys child molesters, whoremongers, and wifebeaters? why are all those repulican guys going to jail? why are all those republican congressmen and senators under investigation?
i’d guess that, for powerful republicans, kinky sex and easy (if perhaps illegal) money are actually “family values”
nice.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 pmWayne,
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 pmTypical Leftist attitude.
If someone disagree their stupid.
Smearing,
Stalinism at it’s best!
tom baker ,
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 pmYeah democrats never do anything wrong!
Ban the Republican party!
Wayne,
Typical Leftist attitude.
If someone disagree their stupid.
Smearing,
Stalinism at it’s best!
Comment by King Ghidorah
I think Zooey is out for the day, so someone needs to step up!
Shut up, you piss-soaked troll! AKA The Joker
Get a life.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 pmDespite the absurd claims by all the shrill republicans, they were never able to prove any dead person voted in King County, or that anything more then a handful of ballots were unofficial.
Comment by krazny — August 2, 2007 @ 11:24 am
And the U.S. Attorney in King County at the time was John McKay, a Republican and a Bush appointee. You can bet that if there was any voter fraud going on, he would have latched onto it like a pit bull. But he didn’t find any. And he eventually lost his job (one of the fired USAs) because the White House was unhappy with him for not “finding” any voter fraud.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:05 pmdid not want a party-line vote that would encourage Roberts to believe that he was ‘an appointment of the Republican Party.’
AYFKM? Pat, Pat, Pat. You know damn well their lifetime appointments allow them to vote however they want. It’s not like SCOTUS justices divide their votes on cases proportionally to the votes they received for confirmation.
I hope you learned your lesson. Stand your ground to the bullies and the people have your back.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 pmWell said. The situation has, unfortunately, moved past bickering.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 pmOne of the unique checks and balances of our system is in how the court swings over long periods of time.
The Warren Court certainly swung to the left on civil rights and personal privacy issues.
Now the Roberts court will swing to the right, perhaps even overturning Roe. But don’t count on it. One of the cornerstones of the conservative judicial mentality is to lean heavily on precedent, overturning such rulings is heresy to a “strict constructionist” jurist.
If no more appointments are made by Republicans over the next 12 18 years that the Dems will hold the white house, the makup of the court will swing back to be more in line with the public’s views.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 pmRick Ross
I have another question for you:
When called on their shit, why do you Republicans always try to play the victim?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 pmgummitch,
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 pmYou get a life.
All you do is complain and whine all day.
I’m not this Joker by the way.
I haven’t post here in months since this is a very depressing site.
I’m back and still see the sam losers complaining!
Ha what losers get lives!
Enough already is becoming unhinged because her heros are going down ..down ..down..
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:10 pmUhhh…in case no one has told you…you’re being robbed, and your rights are being curtailed. If you don’t want to do something about it, that’s fine - you can hold the door for the robbers. Just don’t complain when you finally realize how badly you have been abused and how long you allowed it to continue.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 pmThe numbers are shifting because of Leftist Propagan from the media and Blogs!
Comment by Ghidorah
He’s right, in that most progressives are pro pagan, but wow, I didn’t know the blogs had so much influence, I’m flattered and puffered up like a puffin!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 pm“One of the cornerstones of the conservative judicial mentality is to lean heavily on precedent, overturning such rulings is heresy to a “strict constructionist†jurist.”
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:12 pmThis is nothing more than a conservative talking point. The majority on this new court have already shown they rule based on politics and then find their reasoning in case law.
“Uhhh…in case no one has told you…you’re being robbed, and your rights are being curtailed.”
I’m being robbed?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah !
What a joke!
I have more money than ever!
Not having rights!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Why is this blog still up?
Why is Congress controlled by Dems?
You’re a paranoid loser!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:13 pm“Now the Roberts court will swing to the right, perhaps even overturning Roe. But don’t count on it. One of the cornerstones of the conservative judicial mentality is to lean heavily on precedent, overturning such rulings is heresy to a “strict constructionist†jurist.”
Bush v Gore exposed that scam. They’re only “strict constructionists” when it serves their political purposes.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:13 pmThe numbers are shifting because of Leftist Propagan from the media and Blogs!
Comment by Ghidorah
Blogs? huh? lmao!
and media, huh? Like…uhm…Murdick perhaps?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:13 pmIt is not a court anymore if it is going to be influenced by either party ideologies.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:14 pmJudges should not play the political parties game,or we,the people, are going to be in big trouble.
Court should remain simply a court. It benefits all us if it stays that way.
“Now the Roberts court will swing to the right, perhaps even overturning Roe. But don’t count on it. One of the cornerstones of the conservative judicial mentality is to lean heavily on precedent, overturning such rulings is heresy to a “strict constructionist†jurist.â€
Bush v Gore exposed that scam. They’re only “strict constructionists†when it serves their political purposes.
Comment by barfly
The Roberts Court has hardly leaned heavily on precedent. Typical conservative activist judiciary.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:14 pmComment by Jesus swallows the 2nd coming
Shouldn’t that be Jesus’ followers swallow the second coming?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:15 pmRepublicans Can’t Govern, - I agree fully that the nominees just told Congress what they wanted to hear. I’d go so far as to say the current system to get confirmed is to lie your teeth off, and then forget anything you said after the confirmation.
Question though: Admittedly as the Congress was asking hypothetical and philosophical questions, it would be hard to actually nail them down on the fact that they were talking platitudes.
What recourse do we have when someone lies about their philosophy and gets nominated ?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 pmThat proves the system is broken and in need of immediate repair.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 pmMarcus Aruelius,
What wrong with having Money?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 pmIs that why your Boy Sen Schumer is blocking a Bi-Partisan plan to increase taxes on Hedge Fund Managers?
“I have more money than ever!”
Comment by King Ghidorah
Man-whoring for republican bowsers must pay well…
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 pmWhile Leahy’s gullibility is impressive, his comment shows why Gonzales needs to be impeached, and activity solely up to the Congress and not dependent on either the executive or courts.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 pmTerryturtle,
You guys control The Congress, The Internet, The media, Hollywood and next year Hillary will win.
Stop complaining you guys have built up the apparatus for Stalinist Stae.
You’re gonna run things for at least 50 years!
With all that propaganda you’ll silence Conservatives and Libertarians for at least 2 generations.
Then when you become corrupt with power, your system will collapse like the Soviet Union.
Enjoy your Totalitarian power comimg!
Comment by Ghidorah — August 2, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
Oh well, I guess the answer was ‘full of sh*t’ after all. BTW, that’s a dust bunny under your bed, not a communist.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:20 pm————–
I got news for ya’ folks.
Bush & Cheney aren’t leaving office ….
Prepare yourselves.
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August 2nd, 2007 at 12:21 pmbarfly ,
How about getting a skill and make money using it!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 pmHow about Network Security or the Medical field?
That’s a thought!
While Leahy’s gullibility is impressive, his comment shows why Gonzales needs to be impeached by William Neuhauser
How so?
I see this as Leahy making yet another attempt to divide the people.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 pmTerrytheTurtle,
Yes I’m full of it because I just explain the Power and Organization of the Left.
As a Libertarian I wish we had power like that.
Be happy you guys are on the verge of power!
You’ll have total control!
I forgot to mention, you have control of the Education System too!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:24 pm“How about getting a skill and make money using it!”
Shake your money-maker, King!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:24 pmI didn’t mean to imply that the Roberts/Alito wing of the NeoColon party actually lived up to the “strict constructionist” tag they folded over their shoulders, but I don’t think Roe is going to get overturned..
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:25 pmhere’s an interesting link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 06/ 29/ AR2007062902306.html
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:25 pmbarfly,
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:26 pmYou’re just a complaining loser!
A nobody!
A roach is held in more esteem than you!
How so?
I see this as Leahy making yet another attempt to divide the people.
Comment by Gorgias
Shut up, PiPPy.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:26 pm“As a Libertarian I wish we had power like that.”
Another Republican in drag, too ashamed to own up to his boneheaded past support for a ideological scam?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:26 pmA roach is held in more esteem than you!
Comment by King Ghidorah
Smoke’em if you’got’em, King…
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:27 pmI’m a registred Libertarian and have vote for that Party for the last 11 years.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:27 pmI voted for Michael Badnarik in 2004!
Idiot!
So pippy/pissy/puppy was voting when he was 7 years old.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 pm“Smoke’em if you’got’em, King”
I’m currently working.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 pmI smoke my Herb after work before Dinner!
RUCerious,
Who’s Pippy?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 pmI’m 32.
With the votes Roberts had it would not have made a difference anyway. It’s like Satan getting in the Church it happens. Now Roberts is seen for who he really is. I noticed his wife never went to the hospital to see her husband when he had the seizure or did she come there to pick him up. As for that vacation it was reported he had a guest but it wasn’t his wife. So much for those family values. Like Fingers Foley, Pastor Haggard, Senator Vitter and others who show only one side of who they really are then the truth comes out. Roberts was used to put Satan’s law in the Supreme Court and it’s now 5 for Satan and 4 for Christians. There’s only one problem that could get in the Republicans way of control GOD. Even Roberts the youngest on the Supreme Court doesn’t know when his number is up. Roberts was given a second chance to correct his mistakes let’s hope it takes it. As for Leahy being stupid well look at how Bush/Cheney/Rove trick Americans buy twice stealing the election. Yes Americans were played for fools too the only problem is we will have to pay heavy for that mistake.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 pmA roach is held in more esteem than you!
Comment by King Ghidorah
Sounds like you have smoked too many roaches this morning.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:30 pmwhy don’t you go away Joker.
Oh, do you live in South Florida??
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 pmI’m a registred Libertarian and have vote for that Party for the last 11 years.
I voted for Michael Badnarik in 2004!
Idiot!
Comment by King Ghidorah — August 2, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
Nothing like a Republican troll who is ashamed of being a Republican. Your shame, Ghidorah, says more about your Republican gods then any of us liberals could ever manage.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 pmBruce wayne
Are obseesed with Batman?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 pmYou keep calling me Joker!
What next I’m the Penguin or the Riddlere?
You read too many comic books!
OK, last one:
“I’m a registred Libertarian and have vote for that Party for the last 11 years.”
And this is the Internet, Baby, where anyone on a comments thread can claim anything. What a rookie.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:33 pmfrom wiki
King Ghidorah is also one of the daikaiju most often mind controlled; it acts completely autonomously in three movies, in other appearances being controlled for most of its screen time by aliens.
This explains a lot of the posts today.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:34 pmBruce Gorton ,
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 pmCan you prove I’m a Republican?
Do you think it’s just Republicans who are against the Left’s Internationalist Globalist New World?
There are plenty of Patriots who know what’s up and your One World incedious plans!
The Dems and Reps are 2 sides of the same monster.
Your ignorance to such obviousness speaks volumes.
Keeo dreaming about the so called 2 Party system fool!
RUCerious ,
So you get it.
See Ghidorah represents the American system. You have 2 parties, one on the Left the other on the Right control by the Globalist New World Order crowd.
That’s middle head.
Off topic,
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:37 pmDid you see the last Godzilla movie.
Final Wars?
No, I just think your mind is being controlled by aliens.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:38 pmNot only is it the arm of the republican party but also a good part of the leg and a small chunk of the spleen.
Cry all you want, this is how the system was devised to work, its why the POTUS does the nominating.
The only reason the libs are pissed is because they love to legislate through the courts, and this court isnt their broad brush.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:39 pmdon’t tell the Republicans.
Yeah that’s what happened….. =P
Comment by Wayne — August 2, 2007 @ 11:32 am
And it was all financed by George Soros and directed by Michael Moore!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 pmLeft’s Internationalist Globalist New World?
Comment by King Ghidorah — August 2, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
Why is it, that the same people who view all liberals as pot smoking hippies, also think they somehow have it together enough to form some sort of international conspiracy?
Secondly I believe it was Bush Senior who brought up the “New World Orderâ„¢”
Anyway have fun with you tinfoil hat and cheetos KG
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 pmThe only reason the libs are pissed is because they love to legislate through the courts, and this court isnt their broad brush.
Comment by Clammer of the Shell — August 2, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Dishonest sttement. Just hyperbole. Ignore.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:41 pmNothing wrong with having money. On the other hand, trolls (or suddenly, upper-middle class drinkers of kool aid) with a lot of money is a clear indication that the system is broken. Are you a hedge fund manager? No? Then why would you care? Do you feel that the hedge fund managers are being picked on? Are they paying a fair tax, compared to you and me?
How do you propose the “conservatives” (haha) pay for the bloated government they have spawned? No taxes? Borrow more from China? What is the utopia you are looking for, and do you assume that you will be among those who benefit, should that utopia come to pass?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:41 pmTerrytheTurtle,
Yes I’m full of it because I just explain the Power and Organization of the Left.
As a Libertarian I wish we had power like that.
Be happy you guys are on the verge of power!
You’ll have total control!
I forgot to mention, you have control of the Education System too!
Comment by King Ghidorah — August 2, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
What’s the ‘you guys’ BS? I think one has to be American to be a Democrat, yes? Stop generalizing, you are simply not informed enough to comment on me as ‘you guys’.
“Dr. dr. help me please, I know youll understand
Theres a time device inside of me, Im a self-destructin man
Theres a red, under my bed
And theres a little green man in my head
And he said, youre not goin crazy, youre just a bit sad
cause theres a man in ya, knawin ya, tearin ya into two.
Silly boy ya self-destroyer.
Paranoia, the destroyer”
Libertarian is another name for simply paranoid…. see I can build strawman too.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:42 pmWhy is it, that the same people who view all liberals as pot smoking hippies, also think they somehow have it together enough to form some sort of international conspiracy?
Why is it that the same people who view Bush as a total dunce also think he somehow has it together enough to form some sort of international conspiracy?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:45 pmWhy is it that the same people who view Bush as a total dunce also think he somehow has it together enough to form some sort of international conspiracy?
Comment by Clammer of the Shell — August 2, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
We don’t think he has it together enough. We think he’s the unwitting shill for the conspiracy.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:48 pmhey!
anybody learning anything from this trooll?
how long will you let this go on?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 pmjust curious…
…
Why is it that the same people who view Bush as a total dunce also think he somehow has it together enough to form some sort of international conspiracy?
Comment by Clammer of the Shell — August 2, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
I don’t think he has some international conspiracy going. I think he is a dunce. I don’t think he is even that interested in being president. He does have some rather nasty and corrupt people surrounding him however. Who do have the wherewithal to do some nasty things, and a puppet of a president who won’t say no to them.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 pmHow can leahy sleep atnight with all that guilt? He was one of the “yeas” when the votes were counted. Progressives around the country should be supporting alternative parties as these two main ones just don’t care about reason or the American people. It is always politics first with these people.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 pmEveryone, please stop feeding the trolls. That’s why they’re here with their idiotic ramblings. Ignore them and they will go away.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:52 pmIt’s so sad that Leahy is the Dem leader in this time of crisis; he’s so clearly not up to the job.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:53 pmClammer of the Shell sez:
Chimpy’s role is quite limited, which you would understand readily enough if you weren’t so busy trying to be deliberately obtuse.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:53 pmI don’t think he has some international conspiracy going.
Then you are out of line with the 33% of dems who believe Bush concocted and carried-out the 911 attacks, that he bombed the N.O. levees, that he plans to conquer the world, etc.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 pmThen you are out of line with the 33% of dems who believe Bush concocted and carried-out the 911 attacks, that he bombed the N.O. levees, that he plans to conquer the world, etc.
Comment by Clammer of the Shell — August 2, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
Source? Link?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 pmChimpy’s role is quite limited, which you would understand readily enough if you weren’t so busy trying to be deliberately obtuse.
Sorry, I have trouble keeping all the frothing, liberal conspiracies straight…there are so many and so little time to keep up.
You are a dolt, now get back to your crib!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 pmShut up, PiPPy.
Comment by gummitch — August 2, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
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If you don’t want to address the facts, then don’t say anything. We are trying to have a productive debate here and your comment does not contribute.
By the way, who’s PiPPy?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:56 pmTP, the quality of your trolls is frankly p_ss-poor, please send me my money back - I am not entertained at all.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:56 pmThen you are out of line with the 33% of dems who believe blah blah blah, insert dumbass comment here…
Comment by Clammer of the Shell — August 2, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
The percentage of people who believe Bush planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks is probably closer to 5%. I know you want to believe it is higher as it reinforces your world view, but maybe clearing your head and trying some reality would be a good idea.
As for Global Village Vs. New World Order, which one sounds more sinister to you?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:58 pmNot only that but 42% of dems have said they agree with terrorism if the end goal is to end injustice.
Whatever the hell that means.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:58 pmkaty ~ You’re right…. *sigh*
Those aliens just don’t give up , do they.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:59 pmNot only that but 42% of dems have said they agree with terrorism if the end goal is to end injustice.
Whatever the hell that means.
Comment by Clammer of the Shell — August 2, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
RSS feed for comments on this post.
Source? Link?
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 pmClammer of the Shell sez:
Straw Man. Very few people who believe in some sort of a government conspiracy regarding 9/11 believe that Chimpy played any part greater than that of distracting front man. Nice try, though.
And the tossing in of “bombing the levees” and “taking over the world” was quite good too. Your attempts at misinformation and distortion are truly top-notch.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 pmNot only that but 42% of dems have said they agree with terrorism if the end goal is to end injustice.
Whatever the hell that means.
Comment by Clammer of the Shell — August 2, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:01 pm——–
It means that 42% of dems are admitted hypocrites. They will agree to use unjust means to end injustice!!! Classic liberal hypocrisy!
Clammer of the Shell sez:
Ooh…and you were doing so well, too…shame.
Thanks for showing your true colors, so we now know we needn’t take you seriously any longer.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:02 pmIt means that 42% of dems are admitted hypocrites. They will agree to use unjust means to end injustice!!! Classic liberal hypocrisy!
Comment by Gorgias — August 2, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
Sort of like those patriotic American freedom fighters we teach the kids about eh?
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:03 pmdbadass sez:
Indeed. The American revolutionaries were considered by England to be criminals, traitors, and terrorists.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:06 pmTerrytheTurtle,
What is it.
The truth hurts that your beloved Democratic Party is controlled by the same Internationalists as the Reps!
I have a tissue for your tears!
Comment by King Ghidorah — August 2, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Stupidity is ignorance coming around again for a second try. How many laps around are you going to take? One wonders why you torture yourself so. Well actually no one doesn’t wonder.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:07 pmYou guys really should know better than to reply to a troll like King Ghidorah and expect to get anywhere. Haven’t we learned?
You cannot argue against an irrational position and win, but you can legitimize that position by making it appear to be worthy of rebuttal.
Just because a troll waves a red flag, it doesn’t you have to charge it.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pmSort of like those patriotic American freedom fighters we teach the kids about eh?
Comment by dbadass — August 2, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
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Not at all.
The American freedom fighters attacked the British military. Acts of terror are directed at innocent civilians in order to influence political change. The American freedom fighters did not attack innocent British civilians.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:11 pmYou guys really should know better than to reply to a troll like King Ghidorah and expect to get anywhere. Haven’t we learned?
F that noise, the “king” has nothing on Godzilla.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:14 pmThe American freedom fighters attacked the British military. Acts of terror are directed at innocent civilians in order to influence political change. The American freedom fighters did not attack innocent British civilians.
Comment by Gorgias — August 2, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
You might want to ask the loyalists.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:15 pmOn the Denver’s Craigslist board, there’s a conservative troll who starts all his message subjects with ‘bs’ and ends his message with some variant of ‘ yourself with a rake.’ We call him BS and Rakeboy. This Ghidorah sounds just like him.
Ghidorah? You’re not Libertarian if you disagree with the Left. Libertarian shares elements in common with the Left (social freedoms — i.e. the right to do anything you want in the privacy of your own home) and elements in common with the Right (fiscal freedoms — i.e. the right to do anything you want in the privacy of your own business). If you were truely Libertarian, you’d not be spouting about how the Liberals control the press (you’d know better) or the courts (you’d definitely know better). You’d not be supporting Conservatives (the Religious Right is as antithetical to a Libertarian as the Nanny-State Left is). You, sir, are no Libertarian. Don’t presume to call yourself one.
Independents in general have many issues with both parties. I myself am a card carrying member of no party. I’m registered Unaffiliated here in Colorado. I call it like I see it for Democrats (I still laugh at William “Frozen Assets” Jefferson on a regular basis) and Republicans (I’m sorry. I can’t laugh at Abramoff, Delay, et al.) There will be a time that Democrats need to take a break, but after the last 7 years, this Social Libertarian/Fiscal Moderate has had enough of the scummary in the Republican Party.
Don’t dare sully the Libertarian movement with your attempt at identifying yourself as a member. You’re about as much a member of the Libertarian movement as a member of Fox News is a newscaster.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:19 pmYou might want to ask the loyalists.
Comment by dbadass — August 2, 2007 @ 1:15 pm
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:20 pm——————————–
Loyalists openly sided with the British, as such, the Patriots and the British both recognized them as actors in the American War for Independence. They are not considered innocent civilians, for they could have remained neutral. Instead they sided with the British, and became the enemy of American Patriots.
Loyalists openly sided with the British, as such, the Patriots and the British both recognized them as actors in the American War for Independence. They are not considered innocent civilians, for they could have remained neutral. Instead they sided with the British, and became the enemy of American Patriots.
Comment by Gorgias — August 2, 2007 @ 1:20 pm
So any regular Joe anywhere within the US, Afganistan, Iraqi, or wherever else who is innocent of any acts but feels the welfare of themselves and their families is best served by the any group which is in opposition to US military actions is fair game? Does this very logic not make it acceptable to attack any civilian population?
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:26 pmThe American freedom fighters did not attack innocent British civilians.
Comment by Gorgias
You definately need to read more history, and not the books issued to elementary school that have so many errors.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:31 pmSo any regular Joe anywhere within the US, Afganistan, Iraqi, or wherever else who is innocent of any acts but feels the welfare of themselves and their families is best served by the any group which is in opposition to US military actions is fair game?
Rephrase please.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:33 pmSHAMEFUL! How could the guy say that!? It must be a misprint or some kind of out of context something or other. It’s too freakin’ stupid to be true!!!
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:33 pmYou definately need to read more history, and not the books issued to elementary school that have so many errors.
Comment by Wayne — August 2, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
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Oh yes, how could I not have remembered the horrible acts of terror committed in London?
Gee… thanks, Wayne!
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:36 pmWayne,
All yo do is complain everyday.
You’re a miserable soul!
Get a life!
U 2 Chris L!
Comment by Ghidorah — August 2, 2007 @ 11:55 am
h to the izzo,
What up?!
Comment by Gorgias — August 2, 2007 @ 11:56 am
_______________________________
First, the troll breaks wind. Then, he pi**es into it. Such talent.
A troll by anyother name
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:36 pmis still stupid.
Rephrase please.
Comment by Gorgias — August 2, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Sorry that was sort of convoluted. If a civilian let’s say a fellow with two small children and a lovely wife feels that their best interest lie with the Al-Sadr’s ideas or those of the Taliban, or yearn for the stability of the Saddam years in that they personally were better off, would they qualify as justifiable targets as per your explaination of British Loyalists
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 pmNot the republican party per se…only the rabid right wing neocons.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 pm“The senator voted to confirm Roberts “because he knew Roberts was going to be confirmed anyway and did not want a party-line vote that would encourage Roberts to believe that he was ‘an appointment of the Republican Party.’”"
…WHAT?
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmOh yes, how could I not have remembered the horrible acts of terror committed in London?
Gee… thanks, Wayne!
Comment by Gorgias — August 2, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
Wayne,
Why London? Were the Colonies not the under the “legal” control of the crown?
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pmComment by dbadass — August 2, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
I am saying that targeting those who defy the stated laws (e.g. don’t do business with the British), is not an act of terrorism.
If a group of neutral innocent civilians were all slaughtered by a group of militants, in order to send a message to the political powers of certain nation, that would be considered an act of terrorism.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 pmYou’re about as much a member of the Libertarian movement as a member of Fox News is a newscaster.
Comment by Jeremy - 2 — August 2, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
Ouch! Perhaps the cruelest statement I’ve read all morning.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:50 pmGorgias
Except the law of the land at the time was that the Brits ruled America. The rebels didn’t have the authority to tell the American people who they could, or could not trade with. It was a British colony, and thus the law, as you so put it, would have more likely been “Don’t aid and abet people who are comitting high treason.”
You do not like it, but that is precisely what the rebels were doing, they were comitting an act of treason against their lawful government, and if England had won that war, England would have been perfectly within its rights to execute them.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pmgod damn I love that man. How many here wished him a happy birthday durring the first gonzo hearings besides me?
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:55 pmOh yes, how could I not have remembered the horrible acts of terror committed in London?
Gee… thanks, Wayne!
Comment by Gorgias
John Paul Jones, he harried and attacked British ships off the coast of England and Ireland for the Revolution. He was declared a pirate and basically a terrorist by the British. John Paul Jones took part of the fight to England’s shore.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:56 pmYou do not like it, but that is precisely what the rebels were doing, they were comitting an act of treason against their lawful government, and if England had won that war, England would have been perfectly within its rights to execute them.
Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 2, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
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I’m fine with all of that.
I am saying that the American Patriots were not “terrorists” because they did not target innocent civilians (for they targeted the British militias and Loyalists) in order to influence political change.
Treason… definitely.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:56 pmTerrorism… no.
The American freedom fighters attacked the British military.
Comment by Gorgias — August 2, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
“American freedom fighters”? Weren’t they actually Brits, by an large, trying to cleve off from the Crown? In 1776, damned few of those guys were “American born”, yet. Jest pointin’ it out…”
Actually, the real “American freedom fighters’ would have been the Indians, and they were already losing big.
August 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmAre the four losers running TP still worshiping George Soros at the Kos Convention? There has been nothing relevant posted so I will change topic without reservation.
I want to make sure I understand what is happening to the Democratic Front Runners. It appears they are trying to “outhawk” eachother. If Cheney or Lieberman was saying these things they would be skewered. It appears you have only two candidates left for ‘08 that support your anti anti-terrorism stance: Breck Girl John Edwards and nut-case Dennis Kucinich.
Here is Obama and Clinton trying to outdo eachother. First Obama:
Clinton’s response:
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 pmComment by Eric — August 2, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Don’t reply to this fool. His post makes no sense.
DON’T FEED THIS TROLL! DON’T FEED THIS TROLL!
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 pmGorgias
Except the loyalists included innocent civilians. Not everyone in America wanted to be free of the Brits.
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 pm