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Giuliani’s former anti-terrorism chief voices stern criticism.»

Rudy Guiliani’s former emergency management director, Jerome Hauer, blamed the former mayor for “locating the city’s crisis control room in the World Trade Center complex, even though it was a known terrorist target after the 1993 truck bomb attack which killed six people at the site.” Hauer said Giuliani rejected a facility in Brooklyn in favor of because “the mayor himself made clear that the site had to be walking distance from City Hall.” He added, “Rudy would make a terrible president and that is why I am speaking now.”




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154 Responses to “Giuliani’s former anti-terrorism chief voices stern criticism.”

  1. Dr. Dog Says:

    Rudy/Thompson is going to be a great team for this country.


  2. Philolaos Says:

    Damn, Dr Dog, you beat me. Aw.. well. Fair is fair, you win.


  3. Zooey Says:

    I love people like Hauer, we need more of them to speak out — and not just about Rudy.


  4. Dr. Dog Says:

    Phil, you’ve got the next one brother!


  5. Dr. Dog Says:

    I love people like Hauer, we need more of them to speak out — and not just about Rudy.

    Comment by Zooey

    No thanks. We don’t need anymore liars.


  6. Dr. Dog Says:

    Judy Giuliani is a hot babe. Jeri Thompson is even hotter. This is going to be a helluva team!


  7. Zooey Says:

    No thanks. We don’t need anymore liars.
    Comment by Dr. Dog — August 4, 2007 @ 10:14 pm

    Then you certainly don’t want Rudy.

    Wait a minute…..what am I saying? Liars like Rudy, GWB and Cheney make trolls like you feel all warm and fuzzy — and ripe for dictatorship. Nevermind.


  8. Dr. Dog Says:

    What has Rudy ever lied about?


  9. Philolaos Says:

    Phil, you’ve got the next one brother!

    Comment by Dr. Dog — August 4, 2007 @ 10:13 pm
    ————————

    Heck, you deserve it, after all you’ve been through. It’s good to have you back!


  10. Philolaos Says:

    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 10:16 pm

    What’s wrong, KaZooey? You seem upset.


  11. Dr. Dog Says:

    Phil, it’s great to be back with you, Mr. P, Brassmask, m13 and the rest of the crew. Let’s kick some libtroll ass!


  12. Zooey Says:

    You seem upset.
    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 10:19 pm

    Not at all, Pee, just calling ‘em as I see ‘em.


  13. Philolaos Says:

    Phil, it’s great to be back with you, Mr. P, Brassmask, m13 and the rest of the crew. Let’s kick some libtroll ass!

    Comment by Dr. Dog — August 4, 2007 @ 10:20 pm

    I’m Konservo!

    (aka M r . P .) But I can’t use that name, or they will try to ban me.


  14. liberals destroyed america Says:

    yea rudy would be terrible as president, he might do something crazy like unilaterally attack pakistan despite their vast nuclear arsenal, inbetween having lunch with chavez and castro……no wait thats barrack hussein’s idea, my bad.


  15. Philolaos Says:

    Comment by liberals destroyed america — August 4, 2007 @ 10:25 pm

    I think he prefers to be called: “B. Hussein Os/bama”

    Just sayin’


  16. Zooey Says:

    I rest easy in the knowledge that you sick f*ck trolls will get everything you deserve. :)


  17. Philolaos Says:

    I rest easy in the knowledge that you sick f*ck trolls will get everything you deserve. :)

    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
    ——————————————————————-

    So do I… wait, you’re talking about power and money, right?


  18. ...Trix Are For Kids Says:

    TP has attracted Shirley Ardell Mason.

    Silly Troll….


  19. Justice Says:

    I have yet to see any Repig troll “kick” a liberal’s ass OR even succeed at “winning” a point being made. They simply can not back anything up, which is why they are all laho sahers

    I figure they are all college boys with Mumsie and Dadsie paying their pasty assed way through life. Not one troll has yet to be able to verify ONE of their talking points or any point for that matter on this blog.
    Just a bunch of big louth wimps with no date on Saturday night.
    Hey trolls, wake up, you are on the losing team ya bunch of maroons.


  20. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    (aka M r . P .) But I can’t use that name, or they will try to ban me.

    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 10:22 pm

    Nah, we’ll just use your own words to embarrass the hell out of you…


  21. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    No thanks. We don’t need anymore liars.

    Comment by Dr. Dog — August 4, 2007 @ 10:14 pm

    Some substantiation, or we’ll just assume YOU’RE the liar!


  22. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    inbetween having lunch with chavez and castro……no wait thats barrack hussein’s idea, my bad.

    Comment by liberals destroyed america — August 4, 2007 @ 10:25 pm

    Substantiation, please, or it’s just nonsense.


  23. Zooey Says:

    So do I… wait, you’re talking about power and money, right?
    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 10:29 pm

    Heh.


  24. Zooey Says:

    Substantiation, please, or it’s just nonsense.
    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 4, 2007 @ 10:33 pm

    They’re trolls, TRoS! You might as well bang your head on a wheel of hard cheese….


  25. trueblue Says:

    So Pee-pee admits he’s been banned under another name - something that rarely happens on this site - but yet still feels justified to use another name and continue with the same horrible behavior.

    He’s been told he’s not welcome.
    He lied to continue coming here.

    Does anyone else look at this behavior and think, “Stalker”?


  26. Zooey Says:

    Does anyone else look at this behavior and think, “Stalker”?
    Comment by trueblue — August 4, 2007 @ 10:36 pm

    Actually, my first take on it is “obsessive compulsive assh*le.” :D


  27. trueblue Says:

    Hey, Zooey.

    How are you and those textbooks?


  28. ....Trix Are For Kids Says:

    Does anyone else look at this behavior and think, “Stalker”?
    Comment by trueblue

    RAD disorder.
    [Reactive Detachment]


  29. Zooey Says:

    How are you and those textbooks?
    Comment by trueblue — August 4, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

    It’s a deep and abiding love that will last a semester. :)

    Just call me Hermione Granger — I’m sitting here reading them. Heh.


  30. trueblue Says:

    [Reactive Detachment]

    Comment by ….Trix Are For Kids

    I’m going to have to look that one up in DSM IV.
    Thanks.


  31. trueblue Says:

    OMG!
    You’re reading your college textbooks.

    On a Saturday night.

    For fun.

    Too funny, Zooey. Too funny.


  32. OxyCon Says:

    That picture of Rudy at the link…definately Nosferatu.


  33. gummitch Says:

    It’s a deep and abiding love that will last a semester. :)

    Just call me Hermione Granger — I’m sitting here reading them. Heh.

    Comment by Zooey

    Heh. Finally made it to see Hermione’s latest, just today. She’s loosening up a little.


  34. Zooey Says:

    You’re reading your college textbooks.
    On a Saturday night.
    For fun.
    Too funny, Zooey. Too funny.
    Comment by trueblue — August 4, 2007 @ 10:44 pm

    We’re very happy together. :-)


  35. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Rudy hates ferrets!
    Presidential material? I think not!


  36. Philolaos Says:

    He’s been told he’s not welcome.
    He lied to continue coming here.

    Does anyone else look at this behavior and think, “Stalker”?

    Comment by trueblue — August 4, 2007 @ 10:36 pm
    ——————————————————————-
    Wrong. It’s because of the libs hijacking my name and ruining the threads, that my old name was banned.


  37. Zooey Says:

    Heh. Finally made it to see Hermione’s latest, just today. She’s loosening up a little.
    Comment by gummitch — August 4, 2007 @ 10:45 pm

    It’s about time she did, huh? :D


  38. ....Trix Are For Kids Says:

    Also known as Reactive Attachment Disorder and Detachment Disorder TB

    # Trouble understanding cause and effect
    # Poor impulse control
    # Lacks morals, values, and spiritual faith
    # Little or no empathy; often have not developed a conscience
    # Cruelty to animals
    # Lying for no apparent reason
    # False allegations of abuse
    # Destructive to property or self
    # Stealing
    # Constant chatter; nonsense questions
    # Abnormal speech patterns; uninterested in learning communication skills
    # Developmental / Learning delays
    # Fascination with fire, blood and gore, weapons, evil; will usually
    make the bad choice

    ….Silly Trolls


  39. Philolaos Says:

    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 10:47 pm

    unbelievable was a worthless twit. I hope to God that she is not really a teacher!!


  40. Zooey Says:

    Wrong. It’s because of the libs hijacking my name and ruining the threads, that my old name was banned.
    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 10:48 pm

    Lies, all lies. TP can tell who’s doing what — you were banned because you are YOU.


  41. The Pet Goat Says:

    No thanks. We don’t need anymore liars.

    Comment by Dr. Dog — August 4, 2007 @ 10:14 pm

    I agree; you have too many to deal with already. This entire administration is infested.


  42. Zooey Says:

    unbelievable was a worthless twit. I hope to God that she is not really a teacher!!
    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 10:49 pm

    She spotted you for exactly what you are fairly quickly didn’t she?
    That would piss you off! :-D


  43. Philolaos Says:

    Lies, all lies. TP can tell who’s doing what — you were banned because you are YOU.

    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 10:49 pm

    Fine. Let’s see you type my old name.


  44. trueblue Says:

    Phil,

    Denial of the problem will get you nowhere.

    So many people complained to Faiz that he had to get rid of you.

    You should respect that.

    You should go. But of course you are too immature to accept that you are inappropriate and anti-social, so you feel justified to re-invent yourself and continue to subject us with your pablum.

    You need to seek help.


  45. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    worthless twit?
    I’d drop to your level and say, “it takes one to know one” but it’s hard to hear someone over the computer


  46. Philolaos Says:

    She spotted you for exactly what you are fairly quickly didn’t she?
    That would piss you off! :-D

    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 10:51 pm

    What are you talking about?
    She tried to make every conversation focus on christianity, so she could start quoting the bible! She was a religious kook!


  47. Zooey Says:

    Fine. Let’s see you type my old name.
    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 10:51 pm

    Nope. I like it that 98% of my comments show up. :-D

    Get a clue, Pee!

    # Trouble understanding cause and effect


  48. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Zooey is swell


  49. Zooey Says:

    What are you talking about?
    She tried to make every conversation focus on christianity, so she could start quoting the bible! She was a religious kook!
    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 10:53 pm

    Even through all her anti-religion obsession, she had you nailed for exactly what you are. I was there, and I saw, ding dong.


  50. trueblue Says:

    Oh, and I’m sure unbelievable will be back.

    She can have vacations just like the rest of us.

    She’ll never back down to you mental midgets.


  51. ....Trix Are For Kids Says:

    unbelievable was a worthless twit. I hope to God that she is not really a teacher!! Comment by Philolaos

    See? Its a RAD.
    [Constant chatter, nonsensical, attitude of entitlement and self-importance. Calls itself Mr President etc etc. ]

    …Silly Trolls


  52. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    So does anyone know what happened to unbelievable?
    I haven’t seen her around for a while and was wondering if maybe she was a part of the Great Lib Flight from TP. Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?


  53. Philolaos Says:

    Even through all her anti-religion obsession, she had you nailed for exactly what you are. I was there, and I saw, ding dong.

    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
    ——————————————————

    What the fuk are you talking about! I schooled her ass every time we addressed each other.

    libs… sometimes they are in their own little world…


  54. trueblue Says:

    Trix Are For Kids,

    I think you are spot on with your dx.

    What is the outlook for such patients?


  55. Zooey Says:

    Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?
    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 10:57 pm

    Last I heard she was heading over to DKos.


  56. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    libs… sometimes they are in their own little world…

    Comment by Philolaos

    Your constant presence is proof otherwise.


  57. Philolaos Says:

    Nope. I like it that 98% of my comments show up. :-D

    Get a clue, Pee!

    # Trouble understanding cause and effect

    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 10:53 pm

    —————————————————————–

    See, it’s not me, it’s the name!


  58. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    But I thought DKos was a hate site


  59. Zooey Says:

    What the fuk are you talking about! I schooled her ass every time we addressed each other.
    libs… sometimes they are in their own little world…
    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 10:59 pm

    Pot, meet kettle.

    # Lying for no apparent reason


  60. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    So she did abandon TP?


  61. Zooey Says:

    See, it’s not me, it’s the name!
    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 11:00 pm

    It’s you, dingleberry.


  62. Philolaos Says:

    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

    Just because you say it is a lie, does not make it so.


  63. Zooey Says:

    So she did abandon TP?
    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

    No idea. Why are you asking?


  64. gummitch Says:

    What the fuk are you talking about! I schooled her ass every time we addressed each other.

    libs… sometimes they are in their own little world…

    Comment by Philolaos

    Pee Pee, you couldn’t school a hamster.

    If you’d ever emerge from mommy’s basement, you’d be trembling in terror at the scary pigeons.


  65. trueblue Says:

    Phil,

    Denial of the problem will get you nowhere.

    So many people complained to Faiz that he had to get rid of you.

    You should respect that.

    You should go. But of course you are too immature to accept that you are inappropriate and anti-social, so you feel justified to re-invent yourself and continue to subject us with your pablum.

    You need to seek help.

    Comment by trueblue —

    Interesting.

    You go after someone who is not here to defend herself to turn the attention away from your issues.

    hmmm…. that is very sad. Not willing to hold a mirror up to yourself. I would think being banned from TP might serve as a wake up call. Seems your disorder is pervasive.

    I pity you.


  66. Zooey Says:

    Just because you say it is a lie, does not make it so.
    Comment by Philolaos — August 4, 2007 @ 11:02 pm

    # Little or no empathy; often have not developed a conscience

    # Constant chatter; nonsense questions


  67. gummitch Says:

    See, it’s not me, it’s the name!

    Comment by Philolaos

    The name that you smeared with sh!t, idiot.


  68. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Zooey
    Curious, again, just haven’t seen her here for a while. She’s normally more regular of a poster, as far as I can tell.


  69. .....Silly Rabbits Says:

    Back to the topic at hand. I have to agree that putting the office in the WTC was a bad idea.

    What is the outlook for such patients? Comment by trueblue

    http://www.radkid.org/

    Its hard to say TB. I was just introduced to it a few weeks ago and am still reading up.


  70. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    “Pee Pee, you couldn’t school a hamster.”

    But really, who could? Hamsters are horrible students. They’re just not booksmart.


  71. gummitch Says:

    I believe (heh) that Unbelievable has left this parts because the troll doo-doo has been smearing everything. Check out some of the other liberal blogs if you really care, although if you’re just looking to start a fight with her, she will school your ass like she always schooled Mr Pee’s.


  72. Zooey Says:

    Zooey
    Curious, again, just haven’t seen her here for a while. She’s normally more regular of a poster, as far as I can tell.
    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 11:04 pm

    Don’t know what to tell you, she said she was going and I haven’t seen her since.


  73. Philolaos Says:

    although if you’re just looking to start a fight with her, she will school your ass like she always schooled Mr Pee’s.

    Comment by gummitch — August 4, 2007 @ 11:06 pm

    ==========================================

    Ha!


  74. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    The only fights I start with unbelievable are of the more tongue in cheek variety.


  75. RALPH Says:

    IT’S GREAT TO SEE SO MANY PRO-AMERICAN LAYING OUT THE FACTS FOR THESE TERRORIST-CODDLING, AMERICA-HATING, PIAPS LOVING DEMLIBS!!!!!

    BUT, UNFORNATELY, AND ALL TOO OFTEN, THE TRUTH FALLS ON DEAF EARS!!!!

    THE LIBTARDS ON THIS JIHAD SITE CAN’T EVEN THINK!!!!

    THEY ARE TWISTED WITH HATE!!!!

    HATE!!!!!!! HATE!!!!!!! HATE!!!!!!!

    AMERICA-HATE, AMERICA’S-GREATEST-PRESIDENT-HATE, CHENEY-HATE, O’REILLY-HATE, GOP-HATE, HANNITY-HATE, TRUTH-HATE, FACTS-HATE, FREEDOM-AGENDA-HATE, FOURTH-OF-JULY-HATE, FLAG-HATE, FAMILY-VALUES-HATE, FAITH-HATE, FOUNDING-FATHERS-HATE, LIBERTY-BELL-HATE, FAIR-AND-BALANCED-REPORTING-HATE, O’REILLY-HATE, HANNITY-HATE, COULTER-HATE, MALKIN-HATE, LIMBAUGH-HATE, MIKE-SAVAGE-HATE, WILLIAM-KRISTOL-HATE, R.W.SCHAMBACH-HATE, TROOPS-HATE, ISRAEL-HATE, JOHN-HAGEE-HATE, JOYCE-MEYER-MINISTRIES-HATE, NO-CHILD-LEFT-BEHIND-HATE, PRESIDENTIAL-PRAYER-TEAM-HATE, FREE-REPUBLIC-HATE, LAURA-INGRAHAM-HATE, REFORMATION-HATE, ULSTER-HATE, 2ND-AMENDMENT-HATE, RICHARD-PEARLE-HATE, PAUL-WOLFOWITZ-HATE, RONALD-REAGAN-HATE, AND HUMANITY-HATE!!!!!!

    THEY MAKE ME SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  76. Philolaos Says:

    Fine, I’ll tell you:

    She went to DKooze or some other sh!tty blog, her new handle is
    “Simone de Beauvoir” or “The Memory of Simone de Beauvoir” or something stupid like that.


  77. Philolaos Says:

    Comment by RALPH — August 4, 2007 @ 11:09 pm

    HEyOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooOOOOooOOOoOOoOOooOOoOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  78. trueblue Says:

    Wow,

    Ralph is a little angry.

    Hey also tends to write like Dr. Seuss.


  79. trueblue Says:

    (Talking about the # of words, NOT the message.)


  80. Zooey Says:

    Ralph is a little angry.
    Hey also tends to write like Dr. Seuss.
    Comment by trueblue — August 4, 2007 @ 11:10 pm

    Check out his website — the most retarded thing I’ve ever seen. You’ll find Mr Pee’s inspiration. Not an original thought between them.


  81. trueblue Says:

    Can’t we write Faiz en masse and get this Pee-pee version 2 banned?

    He’s a blight.


  82. trueblue Says:

    The Bush lovers need to see the thread above.

    Perhaps, maybe, they might wake up.

    …. What can I say? Feeling optimistic tonight.


  83. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Ralph’s site is hilarious!


  84. Zooey Says:

    Can’t we write Faiz en masse and get this Pee-pee version 2 banned?
    He’s a blight.
    Comment by trueblue — August 4, 2007 @ 11:12 pm

    They’re at YKos, nothing will happen. As long as he’s just being obnoxious, I can stand him. When he starts on the bloodthirsty shit, he gets offensive quite quickly.


  85. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    He exposed TP as a hate site!

    He revealed the Lib plot to somehow cause Justice Roberts to have a seizure!

    That man is a genius!


  86. trueblue Says:

    genius???

    ummmm… more like an evil Forrest Gump.


  87. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    (Talking about the # of words, NOT the message.)

    Comment by trueblue — August 4, 2007 @ 11:11 pm

    I’m seeing a message filled with hate. Or is it my imagination?


  88. gummitch Says:

    I’d guess that Mr Pee Pee invited Ralph here to spew his truly retarded comments, all part of Mr Pee Pee’s attempt to find meaning in his existence.


  89. Philolaos Says:

    #86

    I actually said that a lib was responsible for the attack on Justice Roberts before Ralph and before Savage.


  90. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Ulster hate?
    Finally the Catholics and Protestants have put aside their differences and formed a unity government. Who doesn’t love cooperation?
    Can I get an Amen?


  91. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    ummmm… more like an evil Forrest Gump.

    Comment by trueblue

    that works too!


  92. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Geez, it looks like Ralph hopped on here, made his accusation, and vamoosed!
    What a letdown!


  93. Zooey Says:

    He exposed TP as a hate site!
    He revealed the Lib plot to somehow cause Justice Roberts to have a seizure!
    That man is a genius!
    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    F*ckwit trolls can never keep themselves undercover for long. *yawn*


  94. Philolaos Says:

    test


  95. Probus Says:

    Giuliani by placing the command center inside World Trade Center showed how incompetent he can be. He is unfit for the presidency. He ignored the right advice. He is in no way “America’s Mayor” as he is often labeled by Chris Matthews and other republicans. He has repeatedly tried to use this national tragedy for his own political gain. That is wrong. He also needs to explain why rescue workers were not told about the toxic environment at Ground Zero before they were told to return to Ground Zero. Also why didn’t he provide the firefighters with appropriate radios to communicate with?


  96. Philo Says:

    -test-


  97. ...Trix Are For Kids Says:

    He revealed the Lib plot to somehow cause Justice Roberts to have a seizure! That man is a genius!

    *sigh*

    Poor little RAD. Anyway I see in the article that Mr Hauer is a leading US expert on biological and chemical terrorism unlike Rudy.

    ….Silly Rabbits


  98. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Zooey, after all our years together, that’s the language you use for me?
    I’m sorry you didn’t find the sarcasm in my post.
    And I’m sorry I make you sleepy.


  99. GSD Says:

    Ralph, I hate broccoli too.

    -GSD


  100. Zooey Says:

    Poor little RAD. Anyway I see in the article that Mr Hauer is a leading US expert on biological and chemical terrorism unlike Rudy.
    ….Silly Rabbits
    Comment by …Trix Are For Kids — August 4, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

    Now you’re going to start confusing the issue with facts….. :D


  101. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    And you missed my previous post saying his site is hilarious
    Which it is.
    He accuses dems/libs of blowing up the bridge in Minnesota, too
    I find that funny, indeed. Sad, but funny


  102. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 11:26 pm

    Sorry. Who are you?


  103. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Zooey, that would ruin my fun. I feel like Batman!


  104. ...Trix Are For Kids Says:

    Can I get an Amen? Comment by Whatever

    Adonai Melekh Na’ Amon. Now could you stay on topic?

    An emergeny control center, I think, should be located in an underground location without a overhead structure, such as the WTC was, that could collapse into it.

    …Silly Rabbit


  105. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    I feel like Batman!

    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 11:30 pm

    You feel like a multi-millionaire who likes to dress up in tights?


  106. Zooey Says:

    Zooey, that would ruin my fun. I feel like Batman!
    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 11:30 pm

    Okay! Knock yourself out!


  107. gummitch Says:

    You feel like a multi-millionaire who likes to dress up in tights?

    Comment by Wayne A. Schneider

    Don’t forget about his “ward.”


  108. upright left Says:

    So does anyone know what happened to unbelievable?
    I haven’t seen her around for a while and was wondering if maybe she was a part of the Great Lib Flight from TP. Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?

    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 10:57 pm

    She must have left because she made such a fool of herself in trying to bolster abortion arguments by saying a nine year old child who gets her period is no longer a child but a women. This was in order to say that no child ever gets pregnant. I know someone will ask for a link, even though he/she read the remark, so I will post it if it hasn’t been deleted. ;)


  109. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    So the topic is where an emergency control center should be located in NYC?
    OK
    You can still have it under another structure, but it would make sense for it to be maybe secret, then you could put it under, say, a McDonalds.
    If its location is secret, it really doesn’t matter where it is, so long as it’s not in a major target. So government buildings are out. Business buildings far from Wall Street would be fine too. Keep it anywhere so that an attack on it won’t hurt too many people, or hurt the economy.


  110. Zooey Says:

    Don’t forget about his “ward.”
    Comment by gummitch — August 4, 2007 @ 11:34 pm

    Oy, that ought to flush him out. :-D


  111. ....Trix Are For Kids Says:

    Zooey, that would ruin my fun. I feel like Batman!
    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable?

    If your looking for a pole to slide down ButtMan might I suggest an MSN chat room down the hall and to the right.

    Anyway, Mr Hauer suggested a site on Brookly. Rudy doesn’t listen to his advisors and as such I doubt he would listen to the voice of America. Lets not forget that Rudy also did not attend the meetings on Iraq that Gates and Scowcroft set up as he was too busy with his speeches elsewhere.

    ….Silly Rabbits


  112. Zooey Says:

    I know someone will ask for a link, even though he/she read the remark, so I will post it if it hasn’t been deleted. ;)
    Comment by upright left — August 4, 2007 @ 11:36 pm

    I read it, and it was a ridiculous argument. Not that nine year olds don’t get pregnant, they do, but that nine year olds are somehow women.

    But she didn’t leave because of that, dimwit. She left because of the idiot trolls and disappearing comments.


  113. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    You feel like a multi-millionaire who likes to dress up in tights?

    Comment by Wayne A. Schneider

    Don’t forget about his “ward.”

    Comment by gummitch

    Oh, you are funny guys!
    You can’t kill my fun! As much as you guys tried to kill Justice Roberts and Nicole Brown Simpson and Abe Vigoda!
    And yes, if I had a cape and cowl I would indeed be wearing it right now!
    Excelsior!


  114. Theodorus Says:

    test


  115. Zooey Says:

    Heh. Mr Pee is having trouble commenting….?


  116. Theodorus Says:

    I will be back you foolish Demlibs!


  117. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Excelsior!

    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 11:39 pm

    Consider this a cease and desist order from a resident of New York State asking you not to use our state motto anymroe. Thank you.


  118. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    I will be back you foolish Demlibs!

    Comment by Theodorus

    Gosh I hope so! Goodie!


  119. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    That’s your state motto?
    Crap, I’m really very sorry for that.


  120. RALPH Says:

    THEIR SENATORS ARE EVEN WORSE!!!!!


  121. Juan C Says:

    She left because of the idiot trolls and disappearing comments.
    Comment by Zooey

    and conspiracy theorists (some of us)


  122. Juan C Says:

    THEY MAKE ME SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Comment by RALPH

    *yawn*


  123. Zooey Says:

    and conspiracy theorists (some of us)
    Comment by Juan C — August 4, 2007 @ 11:51 pm

    Oh yeah. :)

    And non-vegans….heh.


  124. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Ralph, you are one crazy bastard!


  125. Zooey Says:

    I will be back you foolish Demlibs!
    Comment by Theodorus — August 4, 2007 @ 11:44 pm

    Told ya it was YOU and not just your name! :-D


  126. ....Trix Are For Kids Says:

    will be back you foolish Demlibs! Comment by Theodorus

    *sigh*

    Yeh well we will be working on a machine to cause Ralph to seek out sex with male ‘titutes in our secret underground vast conspiratorial lair while hanging upside down from the rafters.

    Trix Are….


  127. upright left Says:

    So I guess you must have spoken to her between this:

    So she did abandon TP?
    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 4, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

    No idea. Why are you asking?
    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 11:03 pm

    and this:

    But she didn’t leave because of that, dimwit. She left because of the idiot trolls and disappearing comments.
    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 11:39 pm

    Unless, of course, you lied? ;)


  128. Whatever Happened to Ralph? Says:

    And non-vegans….heh.

    Comment by Zooey

    Geez, I always got along great with her. What’s wrong with you people?


  129. Philolaos Says:

    Told ya it was YOU and not just your name! :-D

    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
    —————————————–

    Who knows, maybe it is just TP!


  130. Zooey Says:

    Geez, I always got along great with her. What’s wrong with you people?
    Comment by Whatever Happened to Ralph? — August 4, 2007 @ 11:56 pm

    No harm. Just a little teasing. She knew she had a problem with conspiracy theorists, and we all knew she was a vegan and sometimes teased her about it.

    Geez…


  131. upright left Says:

    I read it, and it was a ridiculous argument. Not that nine year olds don’t get pregnant, they do, but that nine year olds are somehow women.
    Comment by Zooey — August 4, 2007 @ 11:39 pm

    You are right, though, that her argument that nine year olds were women was ridiculous. Blamed it on hormones in meat, I believe. That’s what makes a little girl into a woman in her view. ;)


  132. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Yeah, she was a little opinionated. Strong woman.
    I once heard she’s also a bit of a hater.
    AMERICA-HATE, AMERICA’S-GREATEST-PRESIDENT-HATE, CHENEY-HATE, O’REILLY-HATE, GOP-HATE, HANNITY-HATE, TRUTH-HATE, FACTS-HATE, FREEDOM-AGENDA-HATE, FOURTH-OF-JULY-HATE, FLAG-HATE, FAMILY-VALUES-HATE, FAITH-HATE, FOUNDING-FATHERS-HATE, LIBERTY-BELL-HATE, FAIR-AND-BALANCED-REPORTING-HATE, O’REILLY-HATE, HANNITY-HATE, COULTER-HATE, MALKIN-HATE, LIMBAUGH-HATE, MIKE-SAVAGE-HATE, WILLIAM-KRISTOL-HATE, R.W.SCHAMBACH-HATE, TROOPS-HATE, ISRAEL-HATE, JOHN-HAGEE-HATE, JOYCE-MEYER-MINISTRIES-HATE, NO-CHILD-LEFT-BEHIND-HATE, PRESIDENTIAL-PRAYER-TEAM-HATE, FREE-REPUBLIC-HATE, LAURA-INGRAHAM-HATE, REFORMATION-HATE, ULSTER-HATE, 2ND-AMENDMENT-HATE, RICHARD-PEARLE-HATE, PAUL-WOLFOWITZ-HATE, RONALD-REAGAN-HATE, AND HUMANITY-HATE!!!!!!
    But I don’t remember who told me that.


  133. Zooey Says:

    You are right, though, that her argument that nine year olds were women was ridiculous. Blamed it on hormones in meat, I believe. That’s what makes a little girl into a woman in her view. ;)
    Comment by upright left — August 5, 2007 @ 12:05 am

    Just because I don’t agree with her on that point doesn’t mean your argument was valid.


  134. Zooey Says:

    But I don’t remember who told me that.
    Comment by Whatever Happened to unbelievable? — August 5, 2007 @ 12:06 am

    Nothing wrong with being opinionated and strong!

    Who the f*ck are you? Hint….?


  135. Philolaos Says:

    Who the f*ck are you? Hint….?

    Comment by Zooey — August 5, 2007 @ 12:09 am

    That is your ex-secret admirer!


  136. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    Hint?
    Did Batman ever reveal is identity? Did Superman?
    Waterboard me all you want, Zooey! I will never reaveal my secret identity!


  137. upright left Says:

    Just because I don’t agree with her on that point doesn’t mean your argument was valid.

    Comment by Zooey — August 5, 2007 @ 12:07 am

    My argument was that nine year olds aren’t women and children do become pregnant, so apparently you agreed. Will wonders never cease? ;)


  138. Whatever Happened to unbelievable? Says:

    ex-secret admirer? Just because she called me f*wit?


  139. Zooey Says:

    That is your ex-secret admirer!
    Comment by Philolaos — August 5, 2007 @ 12:10 am

    There have been so many….


  140. Philolaos Says:

    TrollsForZooey!


  141. Whatever Happened to Zooey? Says:

    Nice ego, Zooey!


  142. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    There have been so many….

    Comment by Zooey — August 5, 2007 @ 12:14 am

    Don’t forget your current admirers! ;)


  143. Zooey Says:

    TrollsForZooey!
    Comment by Philolaos

    Duh. No shit.


  144. Zooey Says:

    Don’t forget your current admirers! ;)
    Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — August 5, 2007 @ 12:22 am

    Heh. I could never forget all of you. :D


  145. The Eck Says:

    I noticed on Larry King that Cheney has lost some weight. I wonder if he’s gearing up for a presidential bid?


  146. Zooey Says:

    I noticed on Larry King that Cheney has lost some weight. I wonder if he’s gearing up for a presidential bid?
    Comment by The Eck — August 5, 2007 @ 12:58 am

    I think he’s dying.

    Wasn’t Tammy Faye on Larry King just before she died?
    She’d lost weight, too. :P


  147. liberals destroyed america Says:

    Hauer is a partisan democrat who was the first to recommend that the mayor put the command center in the WTC complex. He is coving for his failed idea and failed party, and trying to curry favor is demosocialists like Hillary Clinton, just like registered democrat and Kerry-cochair Harold Schaitberger, leader of the IAFF smear campaign against Giuliani.

    Democrats attack him, yet when Rudy again and again has volunteered to testify infront of committees (including one of Hillary’s) about 9/11, the liberals want no part of him.


  148. not funny :( Says:

    Wasn’t Tammy Faye on Larry King just before she died?
    She’d lost weight, too. :P

    Comment by Zooey — August 5, 2007 @ 1:09 am


  149. RalphyFan Says:

    Sorry - we thought RALPH was our troll, but thanks to Konservo he found his way over here.

    We have a campaign site going for him and his associate here:

    Rapture Ralph for President

    Please visit and participate, should the spirit move you. We know these “Lunatic Candidates for a Crazy World” have quite the constituency…


  150. katy Says:

    george, your father’s a priest…
    i’d rather explain it to your father.

    -rudy, at the repug debate…

    his answer when asked about life changing mistakes…

    big laughs all around…
    i grinned too…


  151. muckdog Says:

    Jerome Hauer is a Democrat. Of course he opposes Rudy.

    Consider this ThinkProgress “breaking news” entry DEBUNKED.


  152. Lora Says:

    # Judy Giuliani is a hot babe. Jeri Thompson is even hotter. This is going to be a helluva team!
    Comment by Dr. Dog — August 4, 2007 @ 10:15 pm

    But nobody looks better in a ballgown than Rudy Giuliani.


  153. Lora Says:

    #Jerome Hauer is a Democrat. Of course he opposes Rudy.
    Consider this ThinkProgress “breaking news” entry DEBUNKED.
    Comment by muckdog — August 5, 2007 @ 2:11 pm

    Whether or not Jerome Hauer is a Democrat is hardly the issue here. It be quite obvious that keeping the city’s crisis control room in the World Trade Center was not a good idea, in light of the previous terrorist attack on it. And the fact, which has been pointed out by other sources as well, is that Giulani wanted to keep it there. But I realize that facts mean little to those who deal in rightwing spin. Consider your attempt at debunking a miss, muckhead.


  154. Mark Says:

    And you don’t think Hillary is a control freak? Hmmm with Hillary we will have 1) a downturn in the economy (because she will raise taxes) 2) Socialized Healthcare (the reason Europe can never get ahead) 3) Defeat in the war on terror. Guliani is the best one, but so far he is the best candidate out there.

    Mark
    http://mark24609.blogspot.com/

    “Everybody in politics lies, but [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it’s troubling.”

    David Geffen - Former Clinton supporter and Hollywood mogul



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