At a fundraiser in the Hamptons this weekend, former President Bill Clinton unleashed harsh criticism on the ideologues on the Wall Street Journal’s editorial page. “The editorial page of the Wall Street Journal is even more right wing and irrational than most of the commentators on Fox News,” said Clinton. “And completely predictable…it’s like Pavlov’s dogs.”

Ah..the reprobate speaks. And he should be listened to why?
August 6th, 2007 at 11:50 pmGO MURDOCH!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:55 pmOHHHHH SNAP!!
Nice one, Prez. :D
August 6th, 2007 at 11:56 pmWay to go Bill!! I couln’t have said it better myself.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:56 pmwelp, for instance… you say reprobate. that alone is enough.
see ya in the funny pages, Frank,
… sigh.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:57 pmThe Op-Ed page of WSJ is more commonly referred to as the fascist page in the circle of beltway insiders that I’m surrounded by. It’s highly respectable, and always correct. Now that NewsCorp. has purchased the WSJ it will be a double-plus good source of commentary.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:59 pmFrank J,
No you’d rather listen to boy touchers like Mark Foley or whoremongers like David Vitter or mistress beaters like Don Sherwood or crooks like Bob Ney and Duke Cunningham.
Drink your Kool-Aid and put on your Fred Thompson jammies, Uncle Dick Cheney will tuck you in.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 12:00 amBrain dead Republican trolls like Rupert Murdoch even though he makes more money from porn than Larry Flynt.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 12:01 amWelcome aboard, Bill.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:02 amthe reprobate was the best president in 30 years, and still has higher approval ratings than any single repuke in the country. on top of that, he’s 100% right about the fascistic, America-hating WSJ Liar page.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:06 amThe Op-Ed page of WSJ is more commonly referred to as the fascist page in the circle of beltway insiders that I’m surrounded by. It’s highly respectable, and always correct. Now that NewsCorp. has purchased the WSJ it will be a double-plus good source of commentary.
Comment by William Kristol — August 6, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
You of course would know this , being the editor of the Weakly Substandard (that joke of a rag) , and having gotten every single prediction about Iraq incorrect these last 5 years , right Kristol-meth ?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:07 amHopefully, once Rupert Murdoch takes the helm, the WSJ op-ed page will be more “fair and balanced.”
August 7th, 2007 at 12:13 amWelcome aboard, Bill.
Comment by Jake D. — August 7, 2007 @ 12:02 am
Go to hell Bill , and take Jake Douchebag with you ……………
August 7th, 2007 at 12:14 amBrain dead Republican trolls like Rupert Murdoch even though he makes more money from porn than Larry Flynt.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — August 7, 2007 @ 12:01 am
Rupert Murdoch - pornocrat! Wonder how much money Frank J and Jake have, uh, “donated” to Murdoch over the years.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:14 amHopefully, once Rupert Murdoch takes the helm, the WSJ op-ed page will be more “fair and balanced.â€
Comment by Monty — August 7, 2007 @ 12:13 am
Than what ?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:15 amA White House memo ?
Even that is very doubtful ……….
The same BClinton that signed the Tel com act of 1996:that act by the way consolidated our media.makes murdoch own several media companies.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:18 amWon’t be too long before Clinton would say he didn’t signed the Telco act of 1996.
I am with David Geffen, the Clintons are liars of the worst type.
And for whatever reason folks are excited by his wife becoming Prez.Are we not a sick country.
Bill Clinton is back and kicking butt. I did notice when the country needs a leader Bush always calls
August 7th, 2007 at 12:18 amBill Clinton. I guess even Bush knows a leader when he sees one. Murdoch is willing to gamble with WSJ, he might just destroy that once great paper. I notice that alot of trolls don’t like Bill. Well I understand if they have jobs, but the millions of unemployed Americans and soldiers who come back don’t have jobs. Yes during those Clinton years the want ads were 10 pages, now with Bush there a half a page.
Not everyone can get on the Bush pay roll to lied for the GOP. But to those who have get all you can while it last.
The Op-Ed page of WSJ is more commonly referred to as the fascist page in the circle of beltway insiders that I’m surrounded by. It’s highly respectable, and always correct. Now that NewsCorp. has purchased the WSJ it will be a double-plus good source of commentary.
Comment by William Kristol
Usually when folks assume a media personalities name they misspell it intentionally.
I doubt Kristol would refer to himself as a Fascist. Machiavellian perhaps.
As far as correctness goes the Standard Weakly has been off base as to the Iraqi Freedom Operation. Can you WK elaborate on this correctness?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:21 amI am with David Geffen, the Clintons are liars of the worst type.
Comment by DutchHenry — August 7, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Would that make/mean that Chimpy McFlightsuit is a liar of the “best type” ?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:22 amDiaper Dave Vitter IS the New Republican Party.
Maybe he will be Trudi Julie Annie’s running mate.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:27 amCan you WK elaborate on this correctness?
Comment by Zero Time — August 7, 2007 @ 12:21 am
He probably can’t post any longer. TP has started the hardcore censorship.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:27 amBill Clinton is right, conservatives make great followers not leaders. They have no trouble following Bush into certain disaster (Iraq, Afghanistan, Katrina, and US Attorneys firing scandal). Democrats on the other hand have the unique ability to question their leaders and expect accountability. Conservatives like to be led blindly that is why they still support Bush while most of the country has abandoned him and his war.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:32 amTP has started the hardcore censorship.
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 7, 2007 @ 12:27 am
Mr. pee, give it up with your censorship jag. Your posts are still appearing no matter how inane. How stupid do you have to be to post to a forum on which you claim you’re being censored?
Why do you even expend the energy? Do YOU think you make sense?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:33 am———–
Yawn.
Clinton = New World Order Tool.
Both parties (dems & repubs) are working towards One World Government.
This “dem vs. repub” is a smoke screen to keep all of us distracted from what they’re (the unseen hand) really doing behind the scenes.
Don’t take the bait.
———–
August 7th, 2007 at 12:34 amHe probably can’t post any longer. TP has started the hardcore censorship. -ISE
Perhaps then, Iohannes, we can bring about true debate.
As I understand the neo-cons, Mr Kristol, they follow a Socratic/Platonic viewpoint.I understand Socrates and his supposed rhetoric. But I think that Socrates was not teaching rhetoric but how to find ones inner light being, and the question answer sessions Plato recorded were of that school of thought and what was behind such rhetoric.
Rhetoric, that is, is not about winning an argument, but helping another find the path to enlightenment?
I, sir, am not a scholar of elite academy and truly hope to find a balance that will maintain a society, Democratic, that encompasses a milennia. The final answer to our woes as bastard children whom the Gods have abandoned for our warring ways.
The new world order.
Could you digress on this?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:34 am“TP has started the hardcore censorship.” - Iohannes Scrotums
Actually it seems to be a rather primitive system you can beat pretty easily.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:36 amClinton = New World Order Tool.
The new world order is not some leftist conspiracy, but a solution to the problems of mankinds continual warfare, as I see it.
Yet we must ask that would mankind overpopulate the planet?
How many people can the earth support?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:37 amGO MURDOCH!!!
Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
And when it all goes down the crapper we’ll just send Martha Stewart back to prison for perjury and let all real insider trading types, emboldened by Murdoch walk away with all that invested pension and retirement money.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:37 amGO MURDOCH!!!
Comment by Jake D.
Jake, has it crossed your mind that perhaps Murdoch wishes to bring you Americans back into the British fold we fought so hard to break free from?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:39 amThe Op-Ed page of WSJ is more commonly referred to as the fascist page.
The WSJ’s News coverage is highly respectable, and always correct.
Of course, Rupert will wreck it, he always does.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:41 amThe same BClinton that signed the Tel com act of 1996:that act by the way consolidated our media.makes murdoch own several media companies.
Comment by DutchHenry — August 7, 2007 @ 12:18 am
He SHOULD have vetoed every bill enacted by that Republican congress. He tried to work WITH the congress though, believing they were also elected by the people. Apparently Bush knows he wasn’t really elected and can’t figure out that the Democrat congress was legitimately elected and he should let them pass some legislation.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:43 amComment by Zero Time — August 7, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Well, the Q and A found in Plato’s dialogues is Dialectic.
For the uninitiated (those who believe in the concept of truth) it may be hard to accept, but the basic premise is:
Humans can not really know anything to be the truth (aletheia). But rather they can only have beliefs (doxa). Dialectic is a way to find a middle ground from which the discussion can build.
Applied to politics, this means that the shared values, culture and beliefs of a given people, are what dictate the Law (nomos).
As Pindar says “Custom is the King.”
Basically nothing matters, so politicians should just use the people’s own beliefs to get them to shut up and die already.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:44 amAmong right wing bloggers, Fred Thompson is the favorite
Most Desired Nominee For 2008
11) Tommy Thompson (5)
August 7th, 2007 at 12:44 am10) Sam Brownback (5)
9) Ron Paul (9.5)
8) Newt Gingrich (15.0)
7) John McCain (17.0)
6) Tom Tancredo (27.5)
5) Mike Huckabee (31.25)
4) Mitt Romney (56.25)
3) Duncan Hunter (60.0)
2) Rudy Giuliani (70.0)
1) Fred Thompson (86.5)
Well, capitalism is working. The stuff worth reading is being read. Even Bill Clinton buys the WSJ.
LOL.
Free markets, baby.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:45 amThe WSJ editorial page endorsed open borders immigration, which is hardly right wing.
Get another BJ from a heavy set girl, Bill.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:46 amBasically nothing matters, so politicians should just use the people’s own beliefs to get them to shut up and die already.
And about this…
Socrates led by example. Plato and Aristotle did not.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:48 amI like your blog, muckdog. I’ll be checking in with it daily.
Do you think the Fed is going to cut rates?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:48 amAmong right wing bloggers, Fred Thompson is the favorite
Most Desired Nominee For 2008
11) Tommy Thompson (5)
10) Sam Brownback (5)
9) Ron Paul (9.5)
8) Newt Gingrich (15.0)
7) John McCain (17.0)
6) Tom Tancredo (27.5)
5) Mike Huckabee (31.25)
4) Mitt Romney (56.25)
3) Duncan Hunter (60.0)
2) Rudy Giuliani (70.0)
1) Fred Thompson (86.5)
Comment by Len — August 7, 2007 @ 12:44 am
11 flavors of wrinkled old vanilla that no one wants …….
August 7th, 2007 at 12:49 amThe WSJ editorial page endorsed open borders immigration, which is hardly right wing.
Get another BJ from a heavy set girl, Bill.
Comment by Len — August 7, 2007 @ 12:46 am
Maybe he can ask Karl Rove and Chimpy if he can “borrow” Jeff Gannon ……..
August 7th, 2007 at 12:51 am“Get another BJ from a heavy set girl, Bill.”
At least Bill likes girls.
Chimpy likes BOYS.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:51 amHumans can not really know anything to be the truth (aletheia).
But they can. Please do not allow another to keep you from seeking truth. You should climb up upon the ancients shoulders and never be happy with less. Sapre Aude Mr P.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:53 amAnd if that is so Mr P, why do you study these ancients today?
To gain knowledge or to find wisdom, unseen and unwritten?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:55 amwhy do you study these ancients today?
Because their opinions are just as valid as the jackasses’ of today.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:57 amAnd why do you think they did that? Do you think there might be a profit motive involved, or is it good ol’ fashioned love of the Mexican and Central American peoples? Here’s a hint: every business that employs illegal aliens has broken Federal law. The Right wing is all about corporate protection and unaccountability. The WSJ is Right wing. Figure it out, numbskull.
BTW: What the fu(k do you think the right wing is going to do for the likes of you?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:00 amBecause their opinions are just as valid as the jackasses’ of today.
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena
Why do you need thousands of year old jackasses to validate todays jackasses? Seems rather uneccessary, and monetarily unwise.
Are you suggestiong, Iohannes, that college and greek history should be abolished?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:02 amBTW: What the fu(k do you think the right wing is going to do for the likes of you?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 7, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Provide several free pages (and not the paper type) ……..
August 7th, 2007 at 1:02 amFree markets, baby.
Comment by muckdog — August 7, 2007 @ 12:45 am
What’s the problem, finished eating all your own waste, like a good dog, and have nothing better to do?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:04 amWhy do you need thousands of year old jackasses to validate todays jackasses?
I am saying that what has worked in the past will provide insight has to how to act in the future. That is why our government is so successful, because we have built off of the wisdom of the ancients. That is also why Communism fails.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:07 amHope that term predictable sticks.That is their whole story.Over and over and over and over.They have been saying the same thing over and over.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:10 amWhy is no one using predictable yet to lable there inability to say something worth hearing.?
That is exactly what they do every chance they get they,stick in the exact same thing.Same catch phrases.Same slams.Heck even gangleaderman gets this tactic.
Noticed this a few years ago with ant culture.She is so practiced with the dialog she has an attack statment ready for any issue and can whip it out instantly.What a life.
I am saying that what has worked in the past will provide insight has to how to act in the future. That is why our government is so successful, because we have built off of the wisdom of the ancients. That is also why Communism fails.
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena
Odd this. First you call them jackasses and now they are wise jackasses. Yet mankind repeats the past. Communism, such as China, has not failed. I dont find it appealing, Iohannes, but the fact is they have been around quite a while. Longer than USA.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:11 amI don’t find that the WSJ is very right wing. Investors Business Daily - now THAT”Ss right wing. Their editorial pages have 6 or seven columns, one of them with a left slant, all the rest are right. Not just right, Bushie Right. Right out of the RNC talking points pages.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:13 amI am saying that what has worked in the past will provide insight has to how to act in the future
Mr P, I am not a communal. But the Greek and Roman empires failed.
No social system has yet been perfected.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:14 ambut the fact is they have been around quite a while. Longer than USA.
Comment by Zero Time — August 7, 2007 @ 1:11 am
I’d say at least 5 thousand years longer.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:18 amNo social system has yet been perfected.
Comment by Zero Time — August 7, 2007 @ 1:14 am
August 7th, 2007 at 1:19 am—————-
True, and the Chinese had emperors before they were “Commies.” Our Republic has been around longer than they have been communists.
Our Republic has been around longer than they have been communists.
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 7, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Oh, there you go, talking sweet to me again.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:22 amrue, and the Chinese had emperors before they were “Commies.†Our Republic has been around longer than they have been communists.
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena
Iohannes were not the pilgrims communal?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:23 amThe Pilgrims were moochers.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:25 amThe Pilgrims were moochers.
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 7, 2007 @ 1:25 am
WTF does this mean?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:26 amThe Pilgrims were moochers. Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena
From who?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:28 amFrom who?
Squanto… (it was a joke)
August 7th, 2007 at 1:32 amWhelp. I’ve got a long day of trollin’ tomorra’
Talk to ya’ later, ZT.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:35 amTalk to ya’ later, ZT.
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 7, 2007 @ 1:35 am
Classic Mr P… get him in a corner and it’s **cough… cough**, “Well, yeah, see ya later…”
Didn’t happen to catch the All-Time Mr. P Classic, did ya?
“The Saudis Aren’t Real Moslems”. Swear to GOD, he tried it!!!
August 7th, 2007 at 1:45 amI am used to Mr P bailing out when really deep issues come upon him.
Anyway, he learns, and his mind will be forced to internally reflect on such critical thinking. And damned if it won’t cause him grief.
Such is the path.
Goodnite Iohannes.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:54 amDidn’t happen to catch the All-Time Mr. P Classic, did ya?
“The Saudis Aren’t Real Moslemsâ€. Swear to GOD, he tried it!!!
Guessed I missed that one.
GN TROS =)
August 7th, 2007 at 2:01 amAnd damned if it won’t cause him grief.
Such is the path.
Goodnite Iohannes.
Comment by Zero Time — August 7, 2007 @ 1:54 am
Cause him grief? Can we get regular updates on that? W/ transcripts?
August 7th, 2007 at 2:02 amIn the same interview, Clinton also said:
That’s undeniably true. Unfortunately, Clinton doesn’t acknowledge that it was the Telecommunications Act of 1996, which he signed into law, that produced the relaxation of which he now complains. And at the YearlyKos conference, Hillary blamed it on Al Gore.
More at News Corpse, the Internet’s Chronicle of Media Decay.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:03 amThanks Mark, and “thanks” Hillary, for joining in on blaming Al, the second biggest political blame target (after her husband) of all time.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:06 amThe WSJ editorial often implied that Hillary and Bill had murdered Vincent Foster. They are true wackos.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:46 amFurther proof that Fox is more centrist than many here care to admit.
August 7th, 2007 at 6:29 amThe WSJ editorial often implied that Hillary and Bill had murdered Vincent Foster. They are true wackos.
Yup, Hillary and Bill are true wackos, we can all agree on that.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:17 amSo people that believe in a conspiracy involving the President murdering someone, are wacko.
Does that apply to those that believe President Bush orchestrated 9/11?
August 7th, 2007 at 7:33 amThe Right mounted a vicious, record-shattering multimillion-dollar smear campaign against Bill Clinton. Yet he was still tied with FDR as most popular President of the 20th century.
The right-wing accusations of corruption against Clinton are simply not true. As measured by the total number of convictions and forced resignations of administration members, his was the cleanest two-term Presidential administration since Teddy Roosevelt
August 7th, 2007 at 7:34 amYet he was still tied with FDR as most popular President of the 20th century.
Most popular maybe (Id like to see the polling data on THAT one), most effective…ehh.
But thats the liberal way, be concerned about popularity and image rather than tackling problems which might tarnish said image.
Clinton/Bin Laden ‘08
August 7th, 2007 at 7:39 amBilly is more liberal than MSNBC
August 7th, 2007 at 8:10 amIf Billy was so popular, why didn’t he ever get over 50% of the vote??
August 7th, 2007 at 8:14 am#73 If Billy was so popular, why didn’t he ever get over 50% of the vote?? Comment by Chris
OK, let’s see how you would honestlyn answer this one: If Dubya and BillC were running right now for Pres, who would win? And by how much?
August 7th, 2007 at 8:32 amDubya got more votes than Billy did
August 7th, 2007 at 8:34 amTrolls, you were pretty fine in this video.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:37 amDubya got more votes than Billy did
Comment by Chris — August 7, 2007 @ 8:34 am
Well, that’s just a lie, and you’re just a liar. W got fewer votes than Gore did, by millions, but your corrupt party of fascists isn’t interested in the will of the American voters, just in grabbing as much power and money as they can before they escape to their South American ranches. Bush got many millions of votes less than your GOP-owned and operated machines showed. He could never have won a fair and free election, never in a million years.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:37 amHey, Chris hows that search for WMDs going? OBL? Stopping Al-Qaeda? Something?
August 7th, 2007 at 8:40 amChris, you still didn’t answer my question: Who would win today in a 1 on 1? But you already did answer by avoiding it, Heh Hehe
August 7th, 2007 at 8:42 ammorning.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:49 amMurdoch is pro-Hillary.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:52 amccokzblog
DESASTER STORKE IN NYC
August 7th, 2007 at 8:58 amHow many posts about NewsCorp taking over the WSJ is this now TP ? 6 ?
Not one of your readers here reads this paper and are therefore unaffected by any change to it.
Clearly none of them were concerned enough about it’s content to notice that it was already a right-wing rag until Bill Clinton told them. You can see this evidenced by the comments in the previous 5 threads all concerned that it will become a right-wing paper.
And here you have 73 comments, none of them with anything of merit or insight to say about the WSJ they didn’t read yesterday, compared to the WSJ they won’t read tomorrow.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:59 amWhy bother ?
Well, that’s just a lie, and you’re just a lier ronjazz
keep drinking the haterade
August 7th, 2007 at 9:03 amJuan C i thought the democrats was gonna stop the war if they got elected???
Hows that going????
August 7th, 2007 at 9:05 amHows that going????
Comment by Chris
How did you expect? Dems = Reps for all I care.
Cheers.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:10 amChris
What does whether Bill Clinton got more votes then Bush have to do with whether Bush is any good as a president?
August 7th, 2007 at 9:17 amPerry Logan. If you realize the smear campaign against Clinton back-fired, are you concerned that the current witchhunt by democrats against the Bush administration could also backfire?
August 7th, 2007 at 9:34 amJuan C. the video was very funny. do you think it says something about non-Americans when they’re compelled to seek out examples of American ignorance and relay it.
Do you have videos of Americans going to France or the U.K. or Argentina to find unsuspecting, unknowledgeable citizens there, in an attempt to generalize the whole society.
It is funny. But less a statement about American ignorance and more informative about European self consciousness and insecurity. Thanks.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:47 amsomeone tell his wife to stop pandering to the right.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:31 amBill is exactly right on that point.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:16 pmFox would be a move to the left from the current WSJ editrial staff.