Censure resolutions in the House.
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Censure resolutions in the House.
Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) has introduced two censure resolutions in the House, mirroring those offered by Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) in the Senate. The resolutions condemn the “president, vice president and the attorney general for misconduct regarding our military involvement in Iraq and for their repeated assaults on the rule of law at home.” The House resolutions have 19 original cosponsors. See the list here.
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Hope the dems don’t hurt their feelings. IMPEACH!
August 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmYet another try at sanity and accountability…
August 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmHope these people all have body armor.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmWHAT A F*CKING WASTE OF TIME!
August 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pmsame crowd of weak democrats
August 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pmI thought they were on vacation?
Too little to late, the Democrats lost my vote and money with the passage of FISA.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:47 pmCensure. Ok. Then what?
August 6th, 2007 at 2:48 pmWhat are you suggesting Godfry Daniel? This is a democracy that encourages critical thinking and to question the govt.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pmDems continue to stumble. The Toy Emperor isn’t exactly Voldemort, but he’s close. So what if it takes a little courage to stand up to him. If the Dems won’t, then we don’t deserve freedom nor democracy.
Come-on! DEMS!!! Do the right thing for a change!!! Protect the constitution and uphold the law of the land!
ITMFAs NOW!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pma vote of no-confidence in congress.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pmWhat the hell is this? They cheat on us and then they think they can make it up with tickets to a Censure resolution?
Gimme a break.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmCensure. Ok. Then what?
Comment by dlet
Then someone needs to help Pelosi find a table.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmOr someone needs to strap Pelosi to a table………
Censure. Ok. Then what?
Comment by dlet
Exactly! What comes next? Probably not so much. Does anyone have a spare backbone they could lend to the dems? They need it more than you do right now.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmEXPAT Too little to late, the Democrats lost my vote and money with the passage of FISA.
welcome to the republican party
August 6th, 2007 at 2:53 pmYea! Censure Resolutions!
August 6th, 2007 at 2:54 pmIt almost makes me forget about the war in Iraq, FISA, healthcare, budget deficits, the right wing Supreme Court and sh*t that actually matters.
EXPAT Too little to late, the Democrats lost my vote and money with the passage of FISA.
welcome to the republican party
Comment by Girlie Troll — August 6, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
Screw the Repukes! Go Libertarian:
http://www.lp.org/
August 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmwelcome to the republican party
Comment by Girlie Troll — August 6, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
Helllooo, independent voter!
August 6th, 2007 at 2:56 pmWASHINGTON - The daughter of Republican hopeful Rudy Giuliani has signaled she’s backing Democrat Barack Obama for president.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pmFar too many people in this country don’t take the time to look into their own govt. It’s an insider club filled with soundbytes and snake oil salesmen.
I believe the reluctance to discuss impeachment is due to congress’ belief the American public wouldn’t understand the seriousness of it and they couldn’t convey the message in a manner that would show the power grabs and assault on the constitution.
Should impeachment be brought up and persued? Yes. Can it be effectively conveyed to the American people? Most likely not.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pma vote of no-confidence in congress.
Comment by Girlie Troll — August 6, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Huh???
August 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pm#19 - americans can handle impeachment, hell, they did over a blowjob, its the JOBS of these GODDAMN crooks to impeach when needed….. i say shut them all down.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pmCensure? Am I supposed to be impressed?
It’s going to take a lot more than a censure resolution to get this country back on track.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:01 pm#
WASHINGTON - The daughter of Republican hopeful Rudy Giuliani has signaled she’s backing Democrat Barack Obama for president.
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Awww, she’s just mad because Dad keeps borrowing her dresses.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:03 pm“Were gonna smoke em out” Ha! Ha!
August 6th, 2007 at 3:04 pmBailiff, whack his pee-pee.
-GSD
August 6th, 2007 at 3:04 pm911-InsideJob
Dems continue to stumble. The Toy Emperor isn’t exactly Voldemort, but he’s close. So what if it takes a little courage to stand up to him. If the Dems won’t, then we don’t deserve freedom nor democracy.
Well, that and a High School student.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:04 pm“Comment by 911-InsideJob — August 6, 2007 @ 2:50 pm”
Be careful about speaking the truth….. With your posts and your name, you will certainly get banned the way TP is dropping posts.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:05 pmI think George Bush and Dick Cheney should have to fight a steel cage match. Like Mad Max beyond Thunderdome. Then we can see which is the meanest.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pmFour Pro-Impeachment Letters in Pelosi’s Hometown Paper Today
SFGate.com
Editor - Impeachment must be considered to gain back the rule of law and receive respect as a nation that we once had. The only way we can be a leader in the world about anything is to show that we do not agree with the policies that have taken us so far back in time. We have to show that we are not the corrupt incompetent country that we appear to be now.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pm#28 - gee, if only you felt that way about vicious terrorists and not your leaders.
The list of co-sponsors reads like a who’s who in radical, left-wing mouthpieces. Carolyn Maloney is an avowed babykiller and her signature should keep off the 41 Democrats who sided with Bush on surviellance.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pm#29 - you know pelosi cant read….
August 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmWASHINGTON - The daughter of Republican hopeful Rudy Giuliani has signaled she’s backing Democrat Barack Obama for president.
If true, this could be incredible news! Imagine, an adult American citizen making up her own mind on political issues and deciding not to let her familial connections take precedent over her beliefs.
This is obviously a shock to Tobey Twat because it shows independant thought, something he isnt used to.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmspare the rod, spoil the child. Dems are hopeless. we be fu*ked!
August 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pmImpeachment would be a waste of time. All 49 Democratic Senators, 16 Republican Senators, and both Independents would have to vote to convict…..never going to happen. The time should instead be used to bring our troops home. Hinchey and Feingold are smart, they both understand the circumstances and are being pragmatic in their efforts to hold the administration to account.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:11 pmCarolyn Maloney is an avowed babykiller
Comment by enough already — August 6, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Do you have a link to a reputable source quoting Carolyn Maloney as saying “I am a babykiller” or something to that effect?
August 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pmAs to the topic….whoa….a censure! Hoooweeee, next thing you know the dems will try to concoct another symbolic resolution, that will show ‘em!
Reid/Pelosi. The most feckless and pathetic leaders ever to ascend to the big houses.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pmCensure, wow, that sounds pretty tough.
I’ll bet it packs quite a punch too.
Whoopie friggin’ doo.
No. 25, GSD:
Good one !
August 6th, 2007 at 3:14 pmIMPEACH - If I only had a dollar for every time this is stated on my status Quo not yours aka Thinkprogress(!)- I would not have to worry about finding housing, health care , etc. If you only could admit or hold the Democlones to the same level of accountability as you do rethugs, or whatever the new moniker is, maybe we could be on the path to “progress”. Republicans for the rich, Democrats for a perpetual under (democrat voting class) ! Sounds good — yeah right. Fair tax, Solely Domestic spending, Housing for all (not high interest 30+ year mortgages) What party supports any of the fore mentioned? None of them.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:14 pm#28 - gee, if only you felt that way about vicious terrorists and not your leaders.
What’s the difference? A bunch of religious nuts who have murdered thousands over sick dreams of utopia?
I’ve got bile enough for all of them.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:15 pm.
Q / Can Bush be jailed for his crimes after he steps down from the presidency
August 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#40 - YES!
August 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pmLink to Carolyn Maloney. Way too easy to find.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ lpa/ pubs/ fsheet_faq_notice/ fs_ahfmd.html
August 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pm“Impeachment would be a waste of time. All 49 Democratic Senators, 16 Republican Senators, and both Independents would have to vote to convict…..never going to happen. The time should instead be used to bring our troops home. Hinchey and Feingold are smart, they both understand the circumstances and are being pragmatic in their efforts to hold the administration to account.
Comment by kucinich’s wife is a total babe — August 6, 2007 @ 3:11 pm”
I keep hearing this, and you are UTTERLY WRONG!!!!
Once the investigation started, and Bush could no longer claim “Executive Priviledge” then the truth would come out…… Just multiply the known crimes by probably 10 and you would have the hidden crimes…..
Just look at what came out about the USA’s…… The whole thing was about politics and VOTER CAGING!!!!! This in it’s self is a DIRECT GO TO JAIL CRIME, yet nothing has been done abou this….. Immagine more info comming out, do you really think the American people would not pressure Congress to convict??????
Those Senators who voted not to convict would be signing their carrears away!!!! The public would throw their a$$’s out if they see the evidence and they let them slide knowing it!
This argument holds no water as far as I’m concerned……
By your statement….. We should not bother trying many court cases because the outcome is not known…… We should only try those cases we know we can get a conviction for.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pm#30
August 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pmdo tell,
which babies has Mrs. Maloney killed?
The most feckless and pathetic leaders ever to ascend to the big houses.
Comment by Sheller of the Clams — August 6, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
Wow… worse than Frist or Hastert?
August 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pmThink progress —- Bash republicans with no substantive counter point. IMPEACH, FEAR, Censure, ad naseum blah blah wah wah
August 6th, 2007 at 3:18 pmDo you have a link to a reputable source quoting Carolyn Maloney as saying “I am a babykiller†or something to that effect?
Comment by spit take
“Babykiller,” i.e., someone who isn’t too stupid to tell a blastocyst from a baby.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:18 pm.
A few quotes from the last honest Republican:
“The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just.”(so let’s IMPEACH already!)
“You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today.”(wake up, Pelosi)
“The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons. Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This, our Convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us.”(are you listening America???)
“I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crises. The great point is to bring them the real facts.”(are you listening MSM?)
“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.”(Bush/Cheney/Gonzo-you’ve all failed the test miserably)
ABRAHAM LINCOLN
August 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pmPelosi/Reid. Worst. Ever.
Factually proven by several esteemed institutions, including the DNC Special Services Bureau.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pm“Can Bush be jailed for his crimes after he steps down from the presidency
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 6, 2007 @ 3:16 pm”
Only by IMPEACHMENT!!!!
If not Impeached, then the courts will claim that a president, or any official, cannot be held accountable for their actions while performing their duty….
Plenty of precidence in this area….. Just look at the EPA case for an example.
HE MUST BE IMPEACHED TO REMOVE THIS BARRIER…..
August 6th, 2007 at 3:20 pmSTOP IT STOP IT. No censure resolution. We the people will lead the march to impeachment if the politicans are too cowardly. But don’t derail our impeachment effort with your silly censure resolutions. JUST STOP IT ALREADY. You are cowardly. We are not. Just stop it. Your censure BS makes things WORSE!@
August 6th, 2007 at 3:20 pmQ / Can Bush be jailed for his crimes after he steps down from the presidency
#40 - YES! Fan of Man
Thats OK then why bother impeaching now when you can bang him up for life after his presidency…….. SORTED
August 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pmIMPEACH Bush - Then what ?
August 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pm50 …….. Oh ……. he needs impeached then
August 6th, 2007 at 3:23 pm“Thats OK then why bother impeaching now when you can bang him up for life after his presidency…….. SORTED
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 6, 2007 @ 3:22 pm”
This is not a true statement from Fan of Man.
Only by Impeachment can he be tried for his crimes while he was president.
Impeachment is NOT only for a SITTING president.
It can be performed ANYTIME!
August 6th, 2007 at 3:24 pmInstead of Impeaching him, lets just make him military governer of Iraq, and send him and the rest of the neo-con useless over there to make the Iraqi, government work. Then we can pull our troops out, and let him (Bush) Big, Dick and the rest of the turds try to survive.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:25 pmIt can be performed ANYTIME!
even after his presidency ???
August 6th, 2007 at 3:25 pmSTOP IT STOP IT. No censure resolution. We the people will lead the march to impeachment if the politicans are too cowardly. But don’t derail our impeachment effort with your silly censure resolutions. JUST STOP IT ALREADY. You are cowardly. We are not. Just stop it. Your censure BS makes things WORSE!@
Comment by Larry from C — August 6, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
I think a failing censure resolution is just about right.
This will prove impeachment talk to be totally rediculous.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:26 pmFactually proven by several esteemed institutions, including the DNC Special Services Bureau.
Comment by Clammer of the Shells — August 6, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Links?
August 6th, 2007 at 3:26 pm“even after his presidency ???
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 6, 2007 @ 3:25 pm”
YES!!!
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:30 pmFactually proven by several esteemed institutions, including the DNC Special Services Bureau.
Comment by Clammer of the Shells — August 6, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Links?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 6, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Oh, there you go again, TRoS… I’ve explained to you ebfore about the difference between the liberal definition of “factual” — i. e. based on demonstrable and value-neutral data — and the conservative definition of “factual” — basically, “what feels correct in the situation”.
I’m pretty sure the Clammer was using the term in its latter form.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:33 pmLinks?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 6, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Straight from the DNC office affiliate who first reported it.
http://www.verland.org/
August 6th, 2007 at 3:35 pm“Comment by Tobey Tall — August 6, 2007 @ 3:25 pmâ€
Besides…. Starting Impeachment prevents Bush from Pardoning anyone else who has committed crimes in his administration……
With that, there would be desire for people to testify to Congress so that they do not get the shaft…….
August 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmRemoveBush - Thanks a lot for the info
August 6th, 2007 at 3:38 pm“RemoveBush - Thanks a lot for the info
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 6, 2007 @ 3:38 pm”
Your Welcome……
When in doubt….. Always turn to the Constitution….. It determines what is law, whether it is followed is another story but it is suppose to be law.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pmWatch how the mainstream media plays this one down. Clinton’s problem, in contrast to Bush who has seriously harmed/killed millions, constantly made front page news.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:41 pmStraight from the DNC office affiliate who first reported it.
http://www.verland.org/
Comment by Sheller of the Clams — August 6, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
You gotta be kiddin’…
Geez, if you’re going to claim something like that, make sure your “source” is the least bit credible.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:42 pmI’m pretty sure the Clammer was using the term in its latter form.
Comment by mikey r — August 6, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
mikey r, look at the link he posted to back it up. Hysterical.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:43 pmYou gotta be kiddin’…
Geez, if you’re going to claim something like that, make sure your “source†is the least bit credible.
It is, the site I listed is actually the winter retreat for the DNC/DFL bigwigs, so it must be credible.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:45 pmIt is, the site I listed is actually the winter retreat for the DNC/DFL bigwigs, so it must be credible.
Comment by Sheller of the Clams — August 6, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
Keep trying.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:50 pmIt is, the site I listed is actually the winter retreat for the DNC/DFL bigwigs, so it must be credible.
Comment by Sheller of the Clams — August 6, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
TRoS, this is just another case of, as I said before, arguing from two different perspectives.
To you and me, “factual” means something we can verify by citing non-partisan, authoritative sources.
To those like the Clammer, “factual” is a rhetorical device, employed in order to convey authority on a statement that doesn’t merit it.
Clammer is absolutely correct, within his perspective, to use the term as he does. The fact that what he means by “factual” is completely at odds with what we in the “reality-based community” mean by it as not important to him.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:52 pmAwwwww mikey, youre just jealous that you havent been invited to the DNC retreat.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:56 pmClammer is absolutely correct, within his perspective, to use the term as he does. The fact that what he means by “factual†is completely at odds with what we in the “reality-based community†mean by it as not important to him.
Comment by mikey r — August 6, 2007 @ 3:52 pm
I agree, mikey r. Dealing w/ folks who make up their own reality is tricky. I didn’t think there was any real basis for his inane comment. By asking for links, I was trying to draw him out, which I did. It is a ridiculous series of posts on his part.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:56 pmCensure the Blue Dogs who voted with the repugs over Fisa, your not going to get anywhere with Bush but you can whip those dogs into shape.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:56 pm#
Censure the Blue Dogs who voted with the repugs over Fisa, your not going to get anywhere with Bush but you can whip those dogs into shape.
Comment by Troll — August 6, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Meaningless.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:57 pm#
Censure the Blue Dogs who voted with the repugs over Fisa, your not going to get anywhere with Bush but you can whip those dogs into shape.
Comment by Troll — August 6, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Meaningless.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:58 pm#48 - Excellent post.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmMeaningless.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 6, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
Meaningless.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:02 pmwhat part of “non-binding” do the weak-kneed democrats not understand?
Only impeachment for all will have the desired effect, with or without the numbers, you must give the demands of 80 percent of the U.S. citizenry an ‘Up or Down Vote’!
August 6th, 2007 at 4:04 pmFailed Censure resolution = meaningless.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:07 pm“Only impeachment for all will have the desired effect, with or without the numbers, you must give the demands of 80 percent of the U.S. citizenry an ‘Up or Down Vote’!
Comment by FreedomOfInformationAct — August 6, 2007 @ 4:04 pm”
Correct!!!!
We need Impeachment! I say start Impeachment for Both Cheney and Bush at the same time. This way they both cannot claim “Executive Priviledge” for anything.
This will allow the pissants to come forward without fear of retribution, as long as a conviction is made of course.
With evidence, it will be difficult for any Senator to not vote to convict!
August 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmAwwwww mikey, youre just jealous that you havent been invited to the DNC retreat.
Comment by Shammer of the Clells — August 6, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
…ask your doctor if the little purple pill is right for you
August 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmDealing w/ folks who make up their own reality is tricky. I didn’t think there was any real basis for his inane comment. By asking for links, I was trying to draw him out, which I did. It is a ridiculous series of posts on his part.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 6, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
You’re absolutely right, and I knew what you were doing. I sometimes get a bit too clinical in my attempts at satire and the tone is lost. Of course it doesn’t help that these guys operate all the time so close to satire territory…
August 6th, 2007 at 4:11 pmI say start Impeachment for Both Cheney and Bush at the same time. This way they both cannot claim “Executive Priviledge†for anything.
Comment by RemoveBush — August 6, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
Why would this be true?
August 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pmOf course it doesn’t help that these guys operate all the time so close to satire territory…
Comment by mikey r — August 6, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
mikey r, along w/ democracy and the Bill of Rights, these guys are destroying satire as an art form. It’s getting harder and harder to parody this degree of insanity. And satire is lost on the bedrock crazy anyways.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pm…ask your doctor if the little purple pill is right for you
Comment by DRxJ — August 6, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
And if the little pill doesn’t work, I suggest a couple of nice, big, irregularly shaped sugar beets.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:15 pm“Why would this be true?
Comment by r — August 6, 2007 @ 4:13 pm”
Because the Supreme Court has already ruled that during an CRIMINAL investigation “Executive Priviledge” cannot be declared……
See the Nixon ruling.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:18 pmActually, what Clammer was doing was trying to make a subtle jab at democrats (i.e. indirectly saying that they are mentally challenged, thus slow)
What he/she/it did, though, was link to a site that offers loving care for those less able to live on their own, all for non profit!
From their website
What is Verland?
We are a non-profit family of person-centered, commmunity homes and services supporting over 225 people with mental retardation, many of whom have multiple physical challenges.
So, unbeknowest to Clam head, he actually complimented the Dems, because, after all, who wouldn’t to help those that need it the most? (NeoCons need not respond)
August 6th, 2007 at 4:18 pmI’ll take your word for it, since it’s not going to happen.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:24 pm“Why would this be true?
Comment by r — August 6, 2007 @ 4:13 pmâ€
Case in point…..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege
The Supreme Court confirmed the legitimacy of this doctrine in United States v. Nixon, but only to the extent of confirming that it can be invoked when the oversight of the executive would impair that branch’s national security concerns.
Since investigation of the WH would not be covered, because it would not cover “National Security” then there are no claims to “Executive Privilege”.
All of these claims Bush is making are ILLEGAL and out of the scope of “Executive Privilege”.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:25 pm“I’ll take your word for it, since it’s not going to happen.
Comment by r — August 6, 2007 @ 4:24 pm”
No DON’T!!!!
Do some research…… Enlighten yourself with the LAW!!!!!
Realize what is LEGAL and what is ILLEGAL!!!!!
Only then will you be a TRUE American!
A patriot is more than a word. It means the people being involved……
We are where we are today because people like you “take the word” of people you don’t know….. Look it up, and know the truth for the “truth shall set you free”…….
August 6th, 2007 at 4:28 pmSo whats next, RemoveB, you going to ‘take it to the streets’ or are you just going to work harder on getting high score on Zelda?
Like the dems in office, the lib proletariat is all talk, all bluster, all bullshat and no action.
Symbolic resolution NOW!
August 6th, 2007 at 4:35 pm“Comment by Phoenix Contact — August 6, 2007 @ 4:35 pm”
I’m doing what I can……
If it comes down to fighting in the streets, then so be it……
I will use my military training and my weapons to take back my country if necessary……
I am doing the American thing by using ALL my resources before resulting to violence….
UNLIKE the Republicans where it is VIOLENCE FIRST!!!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 4:38 pmLike the dems in office, the lib proletariat is all talk, all bluster, all bullshat and no action.
Symbolic resolution NOW!
Comment by Phoenix Contact — August 6, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
Lib proletariart? bullshat? WTF???
August 6th, 2007 at 4:38 pmIf it comes down to fighting in the streets, then so be it……
I will use my military training and my weapons to take back my country if necessary……
Sure, sure ya will. You tiger you. GRRRRRRRR!
August 6th, 2007 at 4:49 pm“Sure, sure ya will. You tiger you. GRRRRRRRR!
Comment by Phoenix Contact — August 6, 2007 @ 4:49 pm”
You don’t even know me……
I am a man of HONOR and INTEGRITY!!!!!
I will DEFEND my nation to the death from ALL ENEMIES FORIEGN OR DOMESTIC!
Can YOU say the same???
August 6th, 2007 at 4:52 pmI know you, youre a conspiracist fanatic which means you talk big but would be the first to get on your knees to save your own miserable skin. I know you all too well.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:55 pmLib proletariart? bullshat? WTF???
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 6, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
You can’t blame them for their ignorance and lack of education, TRoS, they are Repuke ‘bots. No brain, no pain.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:55 pmI know you all too well.
Comment by Phoenix Contact — August 6, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
You posting from Iraq, chickenhawk? You know nothing, and you’re especially lacking in patriotism and courage. No brain, no pain.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:57 pm“I know you, youre a conspiracist fanatic which means you talk big but would be the first to get on your knees to save your own miserable skin. I know you all too well.
Comment by Phoenix Contact — August 6, 2007 @ 4:55 pm”
Right!!!!!!
Your one of those big bad Republicans that talk tough, but in reality your pumping some kid in the A$$ when you go home………
I have NEVER bowed down to anyone!!!! Even in the Army…..
I stood in front of my commander and told him “Sir, I think you suck, sir! Sir, You are the worst commander I have ever worked for, Sir! Sir, I request that you transfer me, Sir!
I could go on, but you will just claim I’m making this up and BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!
You the coward!!!!! Your the one who would whimper and give in to anyone who applies a little pressure!!!! Your the person who, when it came down to you or your country would chose YOU!!!!!
These are the differences between me and YOU!!! I have the courage and will to tell ANYONE what is right and stand up for what I believe in!!!!
Now run back to your mommy little boy, it’s time for your diaper to be changed, because you have soiled them……
August 6th, 2007 at 5:02 pmCensure is too little, too late. This is going to go the full 9 innings and the Democrats aren’t even in the game. Looks like WE THE PEOPLE will have to save ourselves.
August 6th, 2007 at 5:22 pmCensure
Why?
On what grounds?
August 6th, 2007 at 7:43 pmCensure
Why?
On what grounds?
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
Oh, Mr. Pee, why do you bother?
August 6th, 2007 at 8:01 pmISE - Here I thought you’d be in Compton bonding with the gangsta’s . . . given that I had you all set up with a picnic basket and bandanas. You know, since you equate gang violence in the USA with “genocide” in Iraq . . . the first of which the police in LA (miles south of Compton) and the FBI have under control . . . and the latter of which is a genocide that that US has a “treaty obligation” to end. You are one flighty fellow. Good to see ya.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:36 pmCensure is too little and too late; however, at this point, it’s all we’ve got. If censure will raise awareness of the debate to a level that captures the attention of the non-blogging public, censure is worth it.
We need leverage. We need to raise the curtain on “executive privilege.” Despite the failures of our Congresspeople, they are all we have. We cannot quit.
Start with censure. End with impeachment.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:43 pmThe censure resolutions should definitely move forward. Bush clearly deserves any kind of censure. He also deserves impeachment. The reasons for impeachment are many on top of that list is the false justification used for the Iraq war. The intelligence was cherry picked to so that the intelligence was made to fit the policy. The policy should have been made to fit around the intelligence. Other reasons include the US Attorneys’ firing scandal where 6 Justice Department officials have resigned. The outing of former CIA agent Plame to get back at an outspoken critic of the war her husband is also justification for impeachment. Commuting the sentence of a convicted felon - Scooter Libby to protect himself and Cheney from possible prosecution if Libby decided to talk to Fitzgerald is also another reason for impeachment.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:24 pmProbus, I agree. If Fitzgerald were willing, do you think that he would be a good choice for special prosecutor?
August 6th, 2007 at 11:27 pmComment by rockyroad — August 6, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
Yes, considering he was on Rove list of USAs that needed to go. He handled himself well in the Libby case. In the end they decided not to fire him as he was investigating Rove, and Libby for leaking Plame’s covert status to the media.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:41 amProbus, I think that he would be good. He has proven himself to be an impartial arbitrator. No. He did not ive dems all that they would have wanted, but he showed the same disregard for the republicans.
I doubt he has the stomach for it.
Hell, who really needs this?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:00 amProbus,
The present debacle is a project for Elliott Ness. No one who is not driven by passion would want the job.
Please, would some one step up to the plate!
Wanted, American with vision, passion and a sincere love for the Constitution - Please help US!
Responders should be Congress people . . . unfortunately . . . not.
Patrick Fitzgerald, we are counting on you.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:11 am