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Glenn Beck sees a heroic Bush.

By Faiz Shakir on Aug 6th, 2007 at 10:34 pm

Glenn Beck sees a heroic Bush.»

Last week, we noted right-wing pundit Glenn Beck’s meeting with President Bush in the White House. After the visit, Beck lauded Bush’s “incredible passion and resolve.” In a weekend trip to Idaho, Beck heaped even more praise on the president:

He’s not the guy you see on TV. He is the guy on the truck with the bull horn, and for years I have been wondering were is that guy. He is alive and well.




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206 Responses to “Glenn Beck sees a heroic Bush.”

  1. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Apparently, this Beck fellow is an imbecile.


  2. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I am speechless. I am w/out speech.

    The Pillsbury BlowBoy has spoken.


  3. Zooey Says:

    Beck’s Mental Masturbation Minute.


  4. MCMetal Says:

    Where was this supposed “incredible passion and resolve” during ‘Nam when Chimpy went AWOL , Glenn Speck ?


  5. barfly Says:

    “He is the guy on the truck with the bull horn,”

    Who showed up late, after hiding out for more than a day.

    A real profile in courage…


  6. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Wow… for once, total agreement on TP! I’m impressed. the votes have been tallied,, and we ALL think Beck is a stone idiot from Hell.


  7. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    Glenn Beck sees a heroic Bush

    “Heroic Bush” is redundant.


  8. Typical Defeatocrat Says:

    Or is it oxymoron?


  9. Frank J Says:

    When a Bunch of Motivated White Beta Males Get Together, Who
    Knows What Level of Condescension They Can Achieve?

    It’s being reported how YearlyKos is mainly white males — which I just always assumed. I’m not a racist — some of my best friends are white — but I have noticed a propensity for condescension among white people, especially liberal white people. For them it’s practically an art form. And, of course, Daily Kos is dripping with condescension. Daily Kos has a few token minorities (Kos himself is half Latino), but it’s quite obviously a group of white people trying to figure out what’s better for their lessers. Whenever I read Daily Kos, the first thing that comes to mind is, “White people are crazy!”


  10. william Jensen Says:

    I’m sure he is all of those things, but I noticed “competent” was not one of them.


  11. marlow Says:

    Glenn Beck would have seen a “heroic” Jim Jones.


  12. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    “Heroic Bush” is redundant.

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 10:41 pm

    Nah, it’s an oxymoron, like “Republican scruples” or “conservative wisdom”…


  13. WC Says:

    So what’s his f-king problem when he gets in front of the camera?

    Stagefright?


  14. Frank J Says:

    It’s August! Time to Make Stuff Up!
    As this and most TP threads show so clearly, August is always the slowest month for politics, but that is no excuse! I’m thinking, though, we may need to make up some political issues to respond to so we can pass the time.

    Here’s a couple ideas:

    * The people at Daily Kos are now actively supporting Iraqi insurgents trying to kill American. They still consider this supporting our troops since Iraqi insurgents provide negative reinforcement for behavior they disagree with (namely, defense of America and its interests).

    * Democrats in Congress have become so powerless that now even their own bodies aren’t listen to their commands and thus the Democrats are running around the Capitol like chickens with their heads cut off.

    * John Edwards lectured middle class Americans while wearing a pink, frilly dress and wearing over a million dollars in jewelry. His supporters are complaining how the following coverage focused on his appearance and not his message.

    * Hillary Clinton was forced to take a break from campaigning for three days due to an injury sustained when she was accidentally splashed with holy water.

    * Barack Obama says he will never ever use the military against North Korea no matter what and threatens to invade South Korea if they don’t crack down on the consumption of dogs.

    * New botched terrorist attack ended when terrorists accidentally drive a car into a phone poll and then set selves on fire. Luckily for them, a third terrorist videotaped the incident and won $10,000 from America’s Funniest Home Videos as funding for their next attempt.

    Any ideas for other made up stuff I can respond to?


  15. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    Any ideas for other made up stuff I can respond to?

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
    ———–

    Some have accused Bush of breaking the law.


  16. MCMetal Says:

    Any ideas for other made up stuff I can respond to?

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:48 pm

    Yeah , talk about a success created by the Chimpy administration …….


  17. MCMetal Says:

    Glenn Beck sees a heroic Bush

    “Heroic Bush” is redundant.

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 10:41

    Only to the dyslexic or retarded ……….Which one are you ?


  18. Typical Defeatocrat Says:

    Some have accused Bush of breaking the law.

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 10:50 pm
    _____________

    Some court, wasn’t it? Something to do with the TSP?


  19. barfly Says:

    Good comeback, MCMetal.


  20. Frank J Says:

    Bush Administration success: Ended the Clinton/Gore recession of 2000.


  21. barfly Says:

    Ended the Clinton/Gore recession of 2000.

    Comment by Frank J

    Which just happened to start on ‘01.


  22. Roket Says:

    What a dufus. By the time he’s finished telling this story, Bush will have descended into hell and then resurrected three days later.


  23. Frank J Says:

    Ended the rule of the Taliban.


  24. Zooey Says:

    Any ideas for other made up stuff I can respond to?
    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:48 pm

    Some idiot troll claimed you had a brain.


  25. barfly Says:

    Bush Administration success:

    Singlehandely trashed the conservative brand…


  26. Frank J Says:

    SUPPORT FOR SURGE SURGING: “In the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, taken Friday through Sunday, the proportion of those who said the additional troops are ‘making the situation better’ rose to 31% from 22% a month ago. Those who said it was ‘not making much difference’ dropped to 41% from 51%.” These numbers still aren’t stellar, but the magnitude of the shift is pretty impressive, particularly given the generally negative treatment from traditional media.


  27. MCMetal Says:

    Ended the rule of the Taliban.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:56 pm

    When and where ?

    In Fantasyland during your nap time ?


  28. barfly Says:

    “Ended the rule of the Taliban.”

    Comment by Frank J

    Poppy production is at all time highs…


  29. Frank J Says:

    October, 2001


  30. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Ended the rule of the Taliban.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:56 pm

    And helped produce the all-time record opium crop in Afghanistan!

    Woo-hoo!!


  31. tablogloid Says:

    Last time I checked, opium production has increased and the taliban are still controlling much outside of Kandahar.


  32. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    SUPPORT FOR SURGE SURGING: “In the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, taken Friday through Sunday, the proportion of those who said the additional troops are ‘making the situation better’ rose to 31% from 22% a month ago. Those who said it was ‘not making much difference’ dropped to 41% from 51%.” These numbers still aren’t stellar, but the magnitude of the shift is pretty impressive, particularly given the generally negative treatment from traditional media.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:58 pm

    A throat obstruction or choking on a fish or chicken bone can turn a pleasant and enjoyable dining experience to a painful one instantly.


  33. MCMetal Says:

    SUPPORT FOR SURGE SURGING: “In the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, taken Friday through Sunday, the proportion of those who said the additional troops are ‘making the situation better’ rose to 31% from 22% a month ago. Those who said it was ‘not making much difference’ dropped to 41% from 51%.” These numbers still aren’t stellar, but the magnitude of the shift is pretty impressive, particularly given the generally negative treatment from traditional media.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:58 pm

    Yeah , unfortunately that has absolutely no impact on the reality that Iraq is still a complete quagmire and the situation hasn’t changed 1 iota…….


  34. barfly Says:

    Thousands of weapons unaccounted for…


  35. Frank J Says:

    Ended the rule of Saddam Hussein.


  36. tablogloid Says:

    Traditional media?


  37. katy Says:

    aaaaaarrrrrrgh!
    why is the daily show a repeat???
    again???

    carry on…


  38. tablogloid Says:

    The U.S. created the rule of Hussein too.


  39. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Correction: Incompetency ended the rule of Saddam Hussein.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:01 pm


  40. tablogloid Says:

    Gee! I guess the Daily Show is tradional media.


  41. MCMetal Says:

    “Ended the rule of the Taliban.”

    Comment by Frank J

    Poppy production is at all time highs…

    Comment by barfly — August 6, 2007 @ 10:59 pm

    What a typical GOP/Chimpy leg humping moron this Frank Jerkoff loser is ; the Taliban/Afghanistan is singularly responsible for producing 90 PERCENT of the whole world’s heroin supply …..


  42. katy Says:

    He is the guy on the truck with the bull horn

    ’splains alot… he never was on a truck…

    idjit…


  43. Jake D. Says:

    That’s right, tablogloid — choosing between two evils (one in Iraq and one in Iran) left us with Saddam, who eventually bit the hand that fed him — that’s why he had to be put down.


  44. tablogloid Says:

    Incompetency accomplished!


  45. barfly Says:

    It must be the witching hour: posts are disappearing again.


  46. Frank J Says:

    Now this is news: Beauchamp recants: “THE WEEKLY STANDARD has learned from a military source close to the investigation that Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp–author of the much-disputed ‘Shock Troops’ article in the New Republic’s July 23 issue as well as two previous ‘Baghdad Diarist’ columns–signed a sworn statement admitting that all three articles he published in the New Republic were exaggerations and falsehoods–fabrications containing only ‘a smidgen of truth,’ in the words of our source. . . . According to the military source, Beauchamp’s recantation was volunteered on the first day of the military’s investigation.”

    So Beauchamp was lying the whole time, and now that he has two entirely different stories, he was either lying to TNR, which probably paid him $50 per article and which can’t put him in prison for lying to them (because he’s not under oath when he’s spouting off to Franklin Foer), or he lied to the Army, which pays his entire salary and can and will put him in jail for quite a while if he lies to them . . . . So guess which one Beauchamp is more likely to have lied to — the people who couldn’t jail him, or the ones who could. And would. That’s about as definitive a refutation as we’ll get in this saga, but it’s a good one.


  47. This Machine Kills Fascists Says:

    Ended the rule of the Taliban.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:56 pm

    Read much news lately? Much Taliban in the world right now.

    Oh, and Glenn Beck is a complete idiot.


  48. WC Says:

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:58 pm

    —————

    What? No posting of poll results showing 67% of Americans want our troops brought home?


  49. tablogloid Says:

    Not “we” Frank, “them”.


  50. MCMetal Says:

    That’s right, tablogloid — choosing between two evils (one in Iraq and one in Iran) left us with Saddam, who eventually bit the hand that fed him — that’s why he had to be put down.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:05 pm

    Chimpy went after Saddam because of a personal vendetta and because Shrub is a COWARD ; Iran is 10,000 times (militarily) what Iraq will ever be …………


  51. Frank J Says:

    Now this is news: Beauchamp recants: “THE WEEKLY STANDARD has learned from a military source close to the investigation that Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp–author of the much-disputed ‘Shock Troops’ article in the New Republic’s July 23 issue as well as two previous ‘Baghdad Diarist’ columns–signed a sworn statement admitting that all three articles he published in the New Republic were exaggerations and falsehoods–fabrications containing only ‘a smidgen of truth,’ in the words of our source. . . . According to the military source, Beauchamp’s recantation was volunteered on the first day of the military’s investigation.”

    STILL MORE: More on Beauchamp here: “So Beauchamp was lying the whole time, and now that he has two entirely different stories, he was either lying to TNR, which probably paid him $50 per article and which can’t put him in prison for lying to them (because he’s not under oath when he’s spouting off to Franklin Foer), or he lied to the Army, which pays his entire salary and can and will put him in jail for quite a while if he lies to them . . . . So guess which one Beauchamp is more likely to have lied to — the people who couldn’t jail him, or the ones who could. And would. That’s about as definitive a refutation as we’ll get in this saga, but it’s a good one.”


  52. barfly Says:

    “choosing between two evils (one in Iraq and one in Iran) left us with Saddam, who eventually bit the hand that fed him — that’s why he had to be put down.”

    Comment by Jake D.

    Ba. lo. ney.

    Reagan armed them both, and decades later, republicans whine about all the dead Iraqis and Iranians.

    [sniff! sniff!]


  53. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    That’s right, tablogloid — choosing between two evils (one in Iraq and one in Iran) left us with Saddam, who eventually bit the hand that fed him — that’s why he had to be put down.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:05 pm

    Learn some history, you dumbass. We created the Shah of Iran (and he ensuing revolution) just like we did Saddam. Choosing between two evils and we created them both.


  54. WC Says:

    Ended the rule of Saddam Hussein.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

    ————-

    By ordering an invasion on a sovereign nation that was no threat to the U.S. and for the first time in U.S. history telling a leader of a foreign country to “get out or else,” was indirectly responsible for 4 soldiers repeatedly raping an innocent 14 year old Iraqi girl, setting her body on fire to hide the evidence, and murdering members of her family.


  55. MCMetal Says:

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:06 pm

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    You’re trying to use The Weakly Substandard as any type of a legitimate source ?

    Yeah , okay ; just post the on-line link to the National Enquirer next , genius ……….


  56. Frank J Says:

    Daily John Edwards Fabulous Fact

    When John Edwards asks you to pour him a double, it means he wants you to put TWO little umbrellas in it.


  57. barfly Says:

    And that poor soldier who wasn’t allowed to speak at Yearly Kos admitted that he knew he was breaking regs by showing up in uniform…


  58. WC Says:

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

    —————

    Invoked Executive Priviledge in response to possible questioning of members of his administration regarding the Pat Tillman death.


  59. Jim Says:

    #23: SUPPORT FOR SURGE SURGING: “In the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, taken Friday through Sunday, the proportion of those who said the additional troops are ‘making the situation better’ rose to 31% from 22% a month ago. Those who said it was ‘not making much difference’ dropped to 41% from 51%.” These numbers still aren’t stellar, but the magnitude of the shift is pretty impressive, particularly given the generally negative treatment from traditional media.

    Thank God we have the corporate, conservative media to spread propaganda on behalf of the administration. There’s no way we could remain stuck in the Iraq quagmire otherwise.


  60. barfly Says:

    When John Edwards asks you to pour him a double, it means he wants you to put TWO little umbrellas in it.

    Comment by Frank J —

    Personal experience, Frank? Did he also promise to call you in the morning?


  61. Frank J Says:

    Searching far and wide for the Democrat who proposed attacking Iran instead of Iraq.


  62. CC Says:

    Beckerhead strikes again. Such a small TV audience watches cable opinion/bigotry. Fade away!


  63. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    SUPPORT FOR SURGE SURGING: “In the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, taken Friday through Sunday, the proportion of those who said the additional troops are ‘making the situation better’ rose to 31% from 22% a month ago. Those who said it was ‘not making much difference’ dropped to 41% from 51%.” These numbers still aren’t stellar, but the magnitude of the shift is pretty impressive, particularly given the generally negative treatment from traditional media.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
    —————-

    That’s right, the surge is being praised by the Democrat Party as well as the Republicans.

    Bad news for the Defeatists!


  64. MCMetal Says:

    Is this Frank Jerkoff clown , really William Kristol ?

    He posts the most idiotic and outright fraudulent crap to try and bolster his inexcusable support of the Chimpy administration ; the worst in US history ……………


  65. WC Says:

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

    ——————-

    Along with Powell and Bartlett, says we will leave Iraq if the Iraqi government asks us to, yet screams “terrorist lovers” when Democrats or any anti-war person says to bring our troops home and says that only the generals on the ground in Iraq will make that decision.


  66. barfly Says:

    “Searching far and wide for the Democrat who proposed attacking Iran instead of Iraq.”

    Comment by Frank J

    Try looking for the idiot president who armed them both…


  67. MCMetal Says:

    Searching far and wide for the Democrat who proposed attacking Iran instead of Iraq.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:13 pm

    Go ask Chimpy if he’s found those non-existent WMD’s in Iraq yet , jackass ………..


  68. Jake D. Says:

    MCMetal:

    I guess that depends on which regime would have acquired nukes and killed millions of Americans. As for the leaders of the Taliban in 2001 — who refused to turn over bin Laden — one was Obaidullah_Akhund (captured when Cheney visited in February) and the other was Mohammed Omar (never heard from since the invasion).


  69. CC Says:

    Our military is not a loaner police force for Iraq - bring em home!


  70. Frank J Says:

    Fear the Lame Duck

    With President Bush’s approval rating, he should be a lame duck right now, yet he keep having successes against the Democratic Congress. Even though the nutroots were all freaking out about a bill giving him expanding wiretapping powers for the War on Terror, the Democrats still caved and gave Bush what he wants.

    You see, while Bush currently has a 24% approval rating on Iraq, the Congress has 3%. I didn’t even think it was possible to do so bad as to get only 3% approval. So while President Bush may be a lame duck, the Democrats in Congress are a crippled goose sitting at the bank of the pond that Bush can go peck the crap out of whenever he feels like it.

    We have ourselves a mighty government.


  71. JPark Says:

    Glen Beck is half retarded. Shocking that he has orgasms over Bush.


  72. WC Says:

    Ended the rule of Saddam Hussein.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

    ——————–

    Pretended to be a rising country singer by strumming a guitar and ate birthday cake as one of the worst storms to hit the U.S. bore down on the coast.


  73. MCMetal Says:

    That’s right, the surge is being praised by the Democrat Party as well as the Republicans.

    Bad news for the Defeatists!

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:14

    There is no one outside the Chimpy administration and the horseshit GOP and their imbecilic backers like yourself that is “praising” something that hasn’t made 1 shred of difference ; remember “turning a corner” every month too , Anus Enema ?


  74. CC Says:

    Frank J hearts George W - ain’t that cute!


  75. JPark Says:

    Frank J. The Republicans are in worse shape in the Congress, did you know that? The Dems are in trouble because they won’t impeach your loser president.


  76. Jackie Says:

    Beck should tell this to the dead soldiers and the injured soldiers who are denied medical treatment. Tell that to the people who are losing their jobs, the kids with no health care and to all the Americans who are suffering under the Bush/Cheney Dictatorship. Some people will do anything when their paid to lie.


  77. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Now this is news: Beauchamp recants: “THE WEEKLY STANDARD has learned from a military source close to the investigation that Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp–author of the much-disputed ‘Shock Troops’ article in the New Republic’s July 23 issue as well as two previous ‘Baghdad Diarist’ columns–signed a sworn statement admitting that all three articles he published in the New Republic were exaggerations and falsehoods–fabrications containing only ‘a smidgen of truth,’ in the words of our source. . . . According to the military source, Beauchamp’s recantation was volunteered on the first day of the military’s investigation.”

    STILL MORE: More on Beauchamp here: “So Beauchamp was lying the whole time, and now that he has two entirely different stories, he was either lying to TNR, which probably paid him $50 per article and which can’t put him in prison for lying to them (because he’s not under oath when he’s spouting off to Franklin Foer), or he lied to the Army, which pays his entire salary and can and will put him in jail for quite a while if he lies to them . . . . So guess which one Beauchamp is more likely to have lied to — the people who couldn’t jail him, or the ones who could. And would. That’s about as definitive a refutation as we’ll get in this saga, but it’s a good one.”

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:08 pm

    Q. WAS ANYONE PRESENT BESIDES YOU AND YOUR COUNSEL?

    A. NO, SIR.

    Q. LAST WEEK WHEN YOU WERE TESTIFYING, I ASKED YOU FOR
    COPIES OF ANY BUSINESS MODELS, PLANS, OR BUDGETS OR SIMILAR
    DOCUMENTS. DO YOU RECALL THAT?

    A. YES, I DO.

    Q. AND WE ALSO SERVED A TRIAL SUBPOENA FOR SUCH DOCUMENTS
    ON YOUR COUNSEL. ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT?

    A. I AM AWARE OF THAT.


  78. Jim Wolf359 Says:

    Yeah Frank Jerkoff, If you want to hang you’re hat on those numbers, go for it. They mean that the vast majority of the American People STILL its a bad idea to be there. You also don’t mention that 60% + of those polled still want us out of Iraq by April of next year.
    But, whatever floats your boat moron.


  79. Jake D. Says:

    I’m the one who is supposed to “learn” history, Marcus Aurelius? I’ve LIVED history!

    P.S. to WC: Iraq was a “gathering” threat, we weren’t going to wait until the smoking gun was a mushroom cloud, and (unfortunately) there’s always collateral damage in any ground war.


  80. JPark Says:

    Doesn’t work that way, Jackie. Republican culpability stops WAY short of that.


  81. MCMetal Says:

    “Searching far and wide for the Democrat who proposed attacking Iran instead of Iraq.”

    Comment by Frank J

    Try looking for the idiot president who armed them both…

    Comment by barfly — August 6, 2007 @ 11:15 pm

    That would be Ronnie Retard ; the worst president in US history until George W Bushelofcocaine emerged from the bowels of a Texas cesspool………


  82. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    That’s right, tablogloid — choosing between two evils (one in Iraq and one in Iran) left us with Saddam, who eventually bit the hand that fed him — that’s why he had to be put down.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    WTF??? This is incoherent nonsense.


  83. CC Says:

    GOP is going down in flames - go to your unibomber cabin Frank!


  84. WC Says:

    Ended the rule of Saddam Hussein.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

    ————————

    Selected a Sec. of Defense who visited Iraq and shook Saddam Hussein’s hand in an obvious show of cooperation and friendship. The very same Saddam Hussein who went on to murder and terrorize his own people while a Republican administration looked the other way.


  85. CC Says:

    Time for ‘clap off’ Frank j. nite nite!


  86. JPark Says:

    “P.S. to WC: Iraq was a “gathering” threat, we weren’t going to wait until the smoking gun was a mushroom cloud, and (unfortunately) there’s always collateral damage in any ground war.”

    You stoned out f^ck. How were they a “gathering” threat? The only mushroom that was ever a threat to you were the psychedelic ones. Moron.


  87. Chris from Maine Says:

    he said that same thing on tv :

    But above all, I can tell you that the president has incredible passion and resolve. I have not seen this George W. Bush since he had a fire truck behind him and a bull horn in his hand. He was so clear-minded; he was focused. This is not the guy you see on television.


  88. Michael Says:

    “Apparently, this Beck fellow is an imbecile.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 6, 2007″

    Really? Care to explain why?


  89. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    That’s right, the surge is being praised by the Democrat Party as well as the Republicans.

    Bad news for the Defeatists!

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:14 pm

    Your heart has a beauty that I find in no other. Your warmth and compassion inspire me to take new risks and grow daily, refining me into a better person. Your eyes hold a sexiness and a passion others can only long for. As long as my heart beats, I shall seek out your soul and feel fulfilled!


  90. JPark Says:

    Ohh, Michael is back. Would you explain why you are such a dildo?


  91. barfly Says:

    “and (unfortunately) there’s always collateral damage in any ground war.”

    Comment by Jake D.

    But in a war of choice, the dead are used against us as political propaganda. Some syncophants are too dense to see that…


  92. Michael Says:

    “Beck’s Mental Masturbation Minute.

    Comment by Zooey — August 6, 2007″

    I doubt if he was thinking of you during the act!


  93. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    “Apparently, this Beck fellow is an imbecile.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 6, 2007″

    Really? Care to explain why?

    Comment by Michael — August 6, 2007 @ 11:23 pm

    No.



  94. Jim Wolf359 Says:

    Hey Jake, Provide proof of this “Gathering Threat”. Oh, wait…………

    There isn’t any.


  95. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    So while President Bush may be a lame duck, the Democrats in Congress are a crippled goose sitting at the bank of the pond that Bush can go peck the crap out of whenever he feels like it.

    We have ourselves a mighty government.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:17 pm

    August 03, 2007

    Democratic Seats Secure, Republicans at Risk

    The latest strategy memo from James Carville and Stan Greenberg touts a recent poll in the 70 most competitive Congressional districts which shows the Democrats “in a strong position to hold their gains from 2006 and move far into Republican territory in 2008.”

    “Indeed, Democrats hold an 18-point electoral advantage in their own districts while Republicans are losing their districts by 5 points overall — 7 points in their most vulnerable districts, 51 to 44 percent.”

    Key finding: “Republican incumbents are paying a big price for the deep discontent in the country and for aligning with the President who is no more popular in the Republican districts than in the Democratic ones. “


  96. barfly Says:

    Care to explain why?

    Comment by Michael

    Why?


  97. JPark Says:

    No, Michael, Beck was thinking of you. You are kind of hot to the gays.


  98. MCMetal Says:

    With President Bush’s approval rating, he should be a lame duck right now, yet he keep having successes against the Democratic Congress. Even though the nutroots were all freaking out about a bill giving him expanding wiretapping powers for the War on Terror, the Democrats still caved and gave Bush what he wants.

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:17 pm

    Typical lie spewed by a GOP/Chimpy rim licking moronic shithead.

    There was zero horseshit GOP rubber-stamping idiots that had the balls to vote “nay” in the Senate to Chimpy the Wonder Monkey ; there were 24 Dems that did.

    In the Congress , it was the vast majority of those new “moderate Blue Dog” Dems that capitulated ; see if they’re re-elected ever again.

    Liberals , Dems and Indepedents hold their own responsible and to account ; that the horseshit GOP and their imbecilic backers like yourself claim to , is simply that …….A fraudulent claim.

    You are a complete and utter imbecile.


  99. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    That is…

    except for the Defeatist, al-Qaida supporters.

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:24 pm

    You’re actually citing Bill Kristol as proof??? WTF???

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


  100. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Comment by Frank J — August 6, 2007 @ 11:17 pm

    That’s right, Frank.

    Congress has a mere 3% approval when it comes to handling Iraq, whereas Bush as 24%

    The surge is being praised all around.

    Americans have good reasons to be happy these days.

    That is…

    except for the Defeatist, al-Qaida supporters.

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:24 pm

    What’s wrong with corn? Corn tastes GREAT!


  101. Jake D. Says:

    MCMetal:

    Which one are reporters, Kenneth M. Pollack and Michael E. O’Hanlon: part of the Chimpy administration or the horseshit GOP?

    http://brookings.edu/ views/ op-ed/ ohanlon/ pollack20070730.htm


  102. Jim Says:

    Glenn Beck was raised a Roman Catholic in Mt. Vernon, Washington. His mother committed suicide when he was 13. One of his brothers also committed suicide, and another had a fatal heart attack.

    Beck is a self-described reformed alcoholic and drug addict. In the aftermath of those three family tragedies, Beck said he used “Dr. Jack Daniels” to cope. He and his first wife divorced amid his struggle with substance abuse. Beck cites the help of Alcoholics Anonymous in his sobriety, and he eventually converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints which teaches against the consumption of alcohol.

    Beck believes he has a personal relationship with God. “God stalked me like he had a giant baptismal rifle,” Beck said. “I thwarted him. I led people astray as much I could but he kept putting Mormons in my way.”

    ———

    Ergo, he’s a dry alcoholic, right-wing Mormon. No wonder he’s trying so hard, despite all evidence to the contrary, to seem like he has something intelligent to say.

    Maybe he’s holding an Urim and Thummim while he spews…kinda puts him in the same camp as Joseph Smith, who was convicted after an admitting to being a “disorderly person” and an “impostor” in a court in Bainbridge, New York, before he began his ultimate “treasure-hunting expedition”.


  103. MCMetal Says:

    “Apparently, this Beck fellow is an imbecile.

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 6, 2007″

    Really? Care to explain why?

    Comment by Michael — August 6, 2007 @ 11:23 pm

    Lack of an IQ ……..Something you can relate to , Chimpy leg humper.


  104. barfly Says:

    “The surge is being praised all around.”

    Except the authors of the article cited are now backing away from their previous support.

    This is all you’ve got?

    Truly pathetic.


  105. Jake D. Says:

    Sure there is, Jim Wolf359 — it’s not my fault if you’ve never read the Duelfer Report.


  106. WC Says:

    P.S. to WC: Iraq was a “gathering” threat, we weren’t going to wait until the smoking gun was a mushroom cloud, and (unfortunately) there’s always collateral damage in any ground war.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
    ———-

    “B.S.” to Jake D.: No they weren’t. I’ll be glad to direct you to speeches by Colin Powell and Condi Rice in the months prior to 9/11 that points out just the opposite.

    A gathering threat. Spare me. With what? The WMD’s that no one can find? The very thing that the weapons inspectors would have found out had Bush not pulled them out of Iraq before their jobs were finished, so that he could order the invasion?

    As for collateral damage, the murder I reference does not fall under this category. Those soldiers didn’t murder those people and then say “Ooops.” The troops did not storm the victims’ house looking for insurgents. You drop a bomb on a town square, innocents are going to die. Having sex with a 14 year old girl and killing the family, an act that has not a god-damned thing to do with fighting the war on terror, cannot be explained away as “collateral damage.”


  107. MCMetal Says:

    MCMetal:

    Which one are reporters, Kenneth M. Pollack and Michael E. O’Hanlon: part of the Chimpy administration or the horseshit GOP?

    http://brookings.edu/ views/ op-ed/ ohanlon/ pollack20070730.htm

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:26 pm

    Jake Douchebag

    Pollack and O’Hanlon have been cheerleaders for this idiotic war before Chimpy’s imbecilic decision to go in , and have written plenty of Op/Ed’s praising it afterwards ; even though every one of their stupid columns and editorials have been proven to be nothing but pure unadulterated bullshit.


  108. barfly Says:

    “Which one are reporters, Kenneth M. Pollack and Michael E. O’Hanlon: part of the Chimpy administration or the horseshit GOP?”

    Comment by Jake D.

    Poor Jake.

    He really should keep up. Pollack and O Hanlon are already backing away from their previous support.

    Weak. Really weak.


  109. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Care to explain why?

    Comment by Michael

    Just follow the link…

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200704120010


  110. JPark Says:

    Jake, are you stupid? Read the Duelfer report. Or suck on Bush’s teat if you like. It is one or the other.


  111. JPark Says:

    Who let Jake back? Where is the oversite here?


  112. JPark Says:

    It is like a flashback. We have retards like Jake and Mikey back. Amazing.


  113. Zooey Says:

    I doubt if he was thinking of you during the act!
    Comment by Michael — August 6, 2007 @ 11:24 pm

    Of course not, you dumbass.


  114. Jake D. Says:

    But, you said they were either part of the Chimpy administration or the horseshit Republicans, MCMetal. So, which one is it?


  115. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    Of course not, you dumbass.

    Comment by Zooey — August 6, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
    ——-

    Then how would you KNOW!!!


  116. Jake D. Says:

    Anyone else NOT on the “Ignore List”?


  117. MCMetal Says:

    A U.S. government indictment alleges that Pollack provided information to former American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) employees Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman during the AIPAC espionage scandal.

    O’Hanlon signed a letter and a statement on postwar Iraq published by the Project for the New American Century.

    That seem like unbiased and impartial opinions to your dopey ass , Jake Douchebag ?

    Jesus Christ , you GOP/Chimpy nut hugging morons are totally lacking intellectually and as dishonest as a snake-oil salesman , and do not possess the slightest hint of putting country and Americans before the horseshit GOP political party ……


  118. Sluggo Says:

    From one simple mind to another…

    This is how Journalism is done these days.


  119. MCMetal Says:

    But, you said they were either part of the Chimpy administration or the horseshit Republicans, MCMetal. So, which one is it?

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

    Check above , moron ; AIPAC and PNAC are part of what , douchebag ?

    The MSM ?
    Disneyland ?
    You moron ………


  120. barfly Says:

    Anyone else NOT on the “Ignore List”?

    Go contemplate your navel, you intellectual fraud…


  121. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Of course not, you dumbass.

    Comment by Zooey — August 6, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
    ——-

    Then how would you KNOW!!!

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

    During a downtrending market, production costs must be curtailed. However, marketing programs must not be defunded due to market share considerations.


  122. Jake D. Says:

    Even if they are card-carrying members of AIPAC and PNAC, last I checked, neither were Republicans or part of the Adfministration.


  123. ConPERVative Says:

    These are the same trolls from afore, they have just switched tactics.

    Bias and projection didn’t work, as they didn’t convert people to their team, and Republican donations dropped.

    Anyone else NOT on the “Ignore List”?
    Comment by Jake D

    Put a plug in it Jake this is not your site to decide who gets ignored.


  124. Jake D. Says:

    For instance, I am register Independent and not part of the Administration either — I still support Bush’s “incredible passion and resolve.”


  125. ConPERVative Says:

    Even if they are card-carrying members of AIPAC and PNAC, last I checked, neither were Republicans or part of the Adfministration.

    Comment by Jake D

    The last you checked. Okay show us your checklist.


  126. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Put a plug in it Jake this is not your site to decide who gets ignored.

    Comment by ConPERVative — August 6, 2007 @ 11:42 pm

    We discussed this before. Jake can’t “put a plug in it”, ’cause it’ll kill the gerbil.


  127. Jake D. Says:

    I can “ignore” whomever resort to personal attacks and/or refuse to answer my questions when I’ve answered all of their questions.


  128. barfly Says:

    For instance, I am register Independent and not part of the Administration either — I still support Bush’s “incredible passion and resolve.”

    Comment by Jake D.

    No, he’s not. He’s also not a member of the military, if he tries that scam next.


  129. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    Even if they are card-carrying members of AIPAC and PNAC, last I checked, neither were Republicans or part of the Adfministration.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
    —————————–

    That’s right.
    The PROJECT For A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY
    is an independent group.


  130. MCMetal Says:

    Even if they are card-carrying members of AIPAC and PNAC, last I checked, neither were Republicans or part of the Adfministration.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:41 pm

    The “last time you checked” , huh ?

    They have both been cheerleaders of this garbage administration and Chimpy’s Idiotic Iraq Adventure ; anyone that is supposedly an “unaffiliated member” , would never report positives that did not exist , like they constantly (and erroneously) have…….


  131. barfly Says:

    “refuse to answer my questions when I’ve answered all of their questions.”

    That’s rich. I asked him one question, and became a charter member of the list when he refused to answer. What a clown.


  132. MCMetal Says:

    For instance, I am register Independent and not part of the Administration either — I still support Bush’s “incredible passion and resolve.”

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:43 pm

    That only reveals you as a moron ……..You don’t write Op/Ed columns , nor do you have any influence anywhere (thankfully)


  133. Jake D. Says:

    As soon as someone here “proves” their voter registration, I will do the same. For the record, I’ve never claimed to be (active duty) military. I fought in the Korean War though.


  134. MCMetal Says:

    Even if they are card-carrying members of AIPAC and PNAC, last I checked, neither were Republicans or part of the Adfministration.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
    —————————–

    That’s right.
    The PROJECT For A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY is an independent group.

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:46 pm

    Okay then

    Name 1 Independent , Liberal or Dem that is part of either AIPAC or PNAC……..


  135. Jake D. Says:

    MCMetal:

    Calling someone in a debate a “moron” qualifies as a personal attack where I come from.


  136. MCMetal Says:

    As soon as someone here “proves” their voter registration, I will do the same. For the record, I’ve never claimed to be (active duty) military. I fought in the Korean War though.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:48 pm

    Code name : RamButt ……..


  137. ronjazz Says:

    Congress has a mere 3% approval when it comes to handling Iraq, whereas Bush as 24%

    The surge is being praised all around.

    Americans have good reasons to be happy these days.

    That is…

    except for the Defeatist, al-Qaida supporters.

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:24 pm

    Lies, all lies. that’s all you have left, that’s all you had originally. A deserter who lied us into a war he can’t possibly win, a VP who has been caught in dozens of lies on television, nothing but lies. Congress’ approval on the war is the same as Bush’s. You can make stuff up all day, but iyou are still losing a war that you are too cowardly to go fight, and that’s is why. If you war-mongerers would join up in sufficient numbers, there might be a chance. But no, stay home and let the others have 5 tours, and then blame everybody else when America turns tail and runs. Liars and cowards, known as the GOP.


  138. ConPERVative Says:

    For instance, I am register Independent and not part of the Administration either — I still support Bush’s “incredible passion and resolve.” Comment by Jake D.

    That passion has helped to reignite the cold war and undermine what Reagan accomplished. The balance of power in the middle east must now be re-balanced. George Bush Sr, who I respect, noted some 10 years ago, that going into Baghdad would disrupt that balance.

    Now we have, thru compassion, turned back the clock.


  139. barfly Says:

    “I fought in the Korean War though.”

    No, he didn’t. When challenged he couldn’t provide even the most basic information about his service - something about convieniently being part of some double-nought super-secret security detail…


  140. MCMetal Says:

    MCMetal:

    Calling someone in a debate a “moron” qualifies as a personal attack where I come from.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:49 pm

    Claiming that Chimpy the Wonder Monkey has “incredible passion and resolve” proves my assertion , douchebag ……..
    Anyone that is part of the Chimpy Adoration Brigade , the most stupid 25% of the American population , has all the brains of a chestnut ……..


  141. ronjazz Says:

    Calling someone in a debate a “moron” qualifies as a personal attack where I come from.

    Comment by Jake D. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:49 pm

    Your lies and bullsh*t don’t constitute a debate, moron.


  142. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    Name 1 Independent , Liberal or Dem that is part of either AIPAC or PNAC……..

    Comment by MCMetal — August 6, 2007 @ 11:48 pm

    Bill Kristol


  143. ConPERVative Says:

    Calling someone in a debate a “moron” qualifies as a personal attack where I come from.

    Comment by Jake D.

    Be the bigger man Jake. Rise above a word meant to cause you emote.


  144. ronjazz Says:

    137. what is this, repig liars club?


  145. MCMetal Says:

    For instance, I am register Independent and not part of the Administration either — I still support Bush’s “incredible passion and resolve.” Comment by Jake D.

    That passion has helped to reignite the cold war and undermine what Reagan accomplished. The balance of power in the middle east must now be re-balanced. George Bush Sr, who I respect, noted some 10 years ago, that going into Baghdad would disrupt that balance.

    Now we have, thru compassion, turned back the clock.

    Comment by ConPERVative — August 6, 2007 @ 11:49 pm

    Ronnie Retard accomplished jack shit.
    He armed the Taliban , the Contras , Iraq/Saddam , Iran , helped al Qaeda/Bin Laden , and was the most fiscally irresponsible loser until Chimpy came along ……….


  146. barfly Says:

    Calling someone in a debate a “moron” qualifies as a personal attack where I come from.

    Comment by Jake D.

    Who did that, anyway? If he’s so upset about it, surely he can post the comment?


  147. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    137. what is this, repig liars club?

    Comment by ronjazz — August 6, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
    ———————————–

    What are you talking about?


  148. Zero Time Says:

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena

    Mr P. Is that you?


  149. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    Mr P. Is that you?

    Comment by Zero Time — August 6, 2007 @ 11:56 pm

    Yes, it is indeed!


  150. Zero Time Says:

    Ronnie Retard accomplished jack shit. -MCM

    I understand your POV. I was considering Jakes POV =)



  151. WC Says:

    Yes, Jake, let’s take this time to peruse the Duelfer Report, shall we?

    First up, key findings on delivery systems (I believe this refers to rockets. Correct me if I am wrong, Jake. )

    Quote:

    “Given Iraq’s investments in technology and infrastructure improvements, an effective procurement network,
    skilled scientists, and designs already on the books for longer range missiles, ISG assesses that Saddam
    clearly intended to reconstitute long-range delivery systems and that the systems potentially were for WMD.”

    Note the word “potentially.” And this:

    In February 2003 the UN convened an expert panel to discuss the Al Samud II and Al Fat’h programs, which
    resulted in the UN’s decision to prohibit the Al Samud II and order its destruction. Missile destruction began
    in early March but was incomplete when the inspectors were withdrawn later that month.

    Oh looky there. Missiles that Saddam shouldn’t have had were being destroyed, but gosh, they had to cease because a certain American president was itching to invade.

    More to come…


  152. Zero Time Says:

    Yes, it is indeed!

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena

    Okay. I now know where we stand. Thanks. -Zep Tepi [Zero Time Scalar Carbon Being]

    So, From your POV Iohannes, has this war, freedom campaign, helped or hurt what Reagan accomplished?


  153. MCMetal Says:

    Calling someone in a debate a “moron” qualifies as a personal attack where I come from.

    Comment by Jake D.

    Be the bigger man Jake. Rise above a word meant to cause you emote.

    Comment by ConPERVative — August 6, 2007 @ 11:54 pm

    There is nothing manly nor bigger about being a Chimpy backing nitwit , or being a Ronnie Retard fan ; you’re both piles of shit …….
    Just different piles.


  154. Jake D. Says:

    Keep reading and posting, WC. Especially the part about Saddam’s intentions.


  155. ronjazz Says:

    148 is what I’m talking about, p. Republicans are liars and cant be trusted with the defense of the USA. See 9/11. Your screeds are especially ridiculous, because you just make stuff up. Lies are all you have left.


  156. WC Says:

    So tell us, Jake, did you read the entire report, word for word? Must have taken you weeks, as the report contains about 200 MB of data. Did you read it before Oct. 6, 2004, or after December of that same year? It’s mighty large, I tell you; so large, that the U of Michigan, where I found a PDF copy, posted this:

    At the time (Oct. 6) each of the three volumes were 50-70 MB, making it impossible for most citizens to read, even with a broadband connection. This version of the report is divided into smaller segments, even though a broadband connection is still advisable. A more readable HTML version was posted to the web in December 2004.


  157. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    test


  158. ronjazz Says:

    Saddam’s intentions? So what? UN inspectors took care of that. You’re another liar.


  159. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    Roy…. Can you read this?


  160. Zero Time Says:

    Do I know you, Zero Time?
    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:58 pm

    Mr P, please. Zep = Zero. Tepi = Time

    I have tried to show you spooky science as Einstein called it. Yet you, grasshopper, cannot forego your material world and still allow words to frame your mind.


  161. Jake D. Says:

    I at least got to the part about Saddam’s intentions ; )


  162. WC Says:

    Comment by Jake D. — August 7, 2007 @ 12:01 am

    ———

    Are you referring to the “strategic intent” section? That’s next on my list.

    If my neighbor has a strategic intent to kill a member of my family and I find out about it, can I kill him first, in order to spare the life of my loved one? I can? Great!


  163. Zero Time Says:

    Roy…. Can you read this?

    Yes Mr P. I can.


  164. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Bill Kristol

    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:52 pm

    WTF??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA…

    Good one… almost hurt myself laughing so hard.


  165. Bush Bites Says:

    And Beck should know that Bush is “the guy on the truck.”

    Beck spends much of his time trying to get picked up at truck stops.


  166. Probus Says:

    Beck has very little credibility, his views on the war don’t reflect the reality. His views are often racist and sexist. Beck’s views stand in contrast to those of a majority of the American people who voted for democrats in 2006. Most Americans see Bush as someone who stubbornly refuses to admit that he has been wrong from the beginning about the Iraq war. This war was a mistake. The invasion was unnecessary. This is a war of choice. The justifications for going to Iraq have fallen apart. The surge has failed. Any president who has the inability to see the reality is truly out of touch.


  167. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    Yes Mr *. I can.

    Comment by Zero Time — August 7, 2007 @ 12:11 am
    ————–

    I am trying to answer your question about R**gan, but for some reason I can’t get through.


  168. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Comment by WC — August 7, 2007 @ 12:07 am

    And Iraq was not invaded because Hussein had potential access to WMD, had intentions to maybe rebuild his arsenal, or because he had WMD programs.

    The Bush administration sold the war to the American public based on a certainty that Hussein had, in fact, WMD. That he could launch those WMD within 45mins of giving the order. That he was a grave, gathering, and present danger, both to his neighbors and to the world. There was nothing speculative about that.

    That the Bush supporters in this thread are now babbling about Hussein’s “intentions” shows their intellectual dishonesty, and their propensity to move the goal posts when proven wrong.

    Poor, pathetic, intellectually weak submissive followers.


  169. Zooey Says:

    I am trying to answer your question about R**gan, but for some reason I can’t get through.
    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 7, 2007 @ 12:24 am

    Could it be because you’re banned?


  170. Gregor Samsa Says:

    On topic,

    Beck’s man-crush on Pres Bush is getting old.

    Please, someone give this man a poster of his authoritarian daddy figure before he has a nervous meltdown.


  171. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    Could it be because you’re banned?

    Comment by Zooey — August 7, 2007 @ 12:27 am

    I think it is because I mentioned las*rs in spac*


  172. WC Says:

    I’ve read the Key Findings under the “Strategic Intent” section and find no reference…NONE…regarding his desire or perceived desire, to attack, or participate in an attack against, America. Something I missed? I also scanned the entire section that followed. Again, nothing. I did find this, however (emphasis mine):

    ISG has not found evidence that Saddam Husayn
    possessed WMD stocks in 2003, but the available
    evidence from its investigation—including detainee
    interviews and document exploitation—leaves open
    the possibility that some weapons existed in Iraq
    although not of a militarily significant capability.


  173. Iohannes Scottus Eriugena Says:

    I’ve read the Key Findings under the “Strategic Intent” section and find no reference…NONE…regarding his desire or perceived desire, to attack, or participate in an attack against, America. Something I missed? I also scanned the entire section that followed. Again, nothing. I did find this, however (emphasis mine):

    ISG has not found evidence that Saddam Husayn
    possessed WMD stocks in 2003, but the available
    evidence from its investigation—including detainee
    interviews and document exploitation—leaves open
    the possibility that some weapons existed in Iraq
    although not of a militarily significant capability.

    Comment by WC — August 7, 2007 @ 12:31 am

    ——-
    So.

    The point is, we weren’t going to take the chance. If we let Saddam mess with us and we didn’t teach him a lesson, that would embolden other Isl*m*F*sc*sts.

    Remember Sept. 11th???


  174. Zooey Says:

    I think it is because I mentioned las*rs in spac*
    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 7, 2007 @ 12:28 am

    ….and because you’re banned.


  175. Zooey Says:

    Remember Sept. 11th???
    Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 7, 2007 @ 12:34 am

    Not Iraq.

    Where’s Osama bin Laden?


  176. WC Says:

    Comment by Gregor Samsa — August 7, 2007 @ 12:25 am

    ———-

    Indeed. From what I’ve read so far (and it’s admittedly brief given the shitload of info in the report), the last thing Saddam wanted was to tangle with the U.S. Another section of the report that I thought was interesting was the suggestion that American officials thought there was a Saddam-al Qaeda connection simply based on the premise that since Saddam didn’t offer his condolences to America, or condemn the attacks on 9/11, then he must be involved with al Qaeda in some manner. In other words, we, in part, perceived Iraq as a “gathering threat” because he didn’t say “I’m so sorry” after 9/11.


  177. Probus Says:

    Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 or bin Laden. Saddam had nothing to do with the tragic attacks of 9-11. The real war o