“Wow, you leftists just don’t get it, do you?”

Sorry dude we get it.

“The Republican Party is locked in a battle for its very soul.”

Battle lost.

“The battle is between the neo-con Bushites, and the old-line conservatives . . . the Reaganites didn’t want to go to Iraq. They also don’t like the wild spending sprees, the intrusive government power-grab, and the easy road to amnesty for illegal aliens.”

Unfortunately, you sooul-seeking repubs voted as a block for the war, for spending sprees and for the intrusive power grab.

“The Reaganites include people like Bob Novak [bloviator who outed a covert CIA agent] , Pat Buchanan [all purpose nut case], Tucker Carlson [still a clown sporting that damn bow tie], Phyllis Schlafly [bomb abortion clinics . . . God's work], David Keene . . . [who?] , Richard Viguerie, and among the candidates Ron Paul and probably Tom Tancredo [heck of a job you're doin' for your constituents . . . yeah, those foldks who lost their minds and elected you again].

Yes, as a former repub, I recognize the difference in stated philosophy, but actions speak volumes. I’ve looked from one pig to the other and they look the same.

In a strange way, they have at this moment different interest. And, if they will not coordinate these interests, it could become a loose-loose situation.

See my two postings on this subject
(a) PKK should do ‘whatever it takes’ to provoke Turkey to invade Northern Iraq
(b) Framing Kurdistan

The Republican Party is locked in a battle for its very soul. The battle is between the neo-con Bushites, and the old-line conservatives who are more Reagan-like. Perhaps you guys can’t see any difference, but the very clear one is that the Reaganites didn’t want to go to Iraq. They also don’t like the wild spending sprees, the intrusive government power-grab, and the easy road to amnesty for illegal aliens. The Reaganites include people like Bob Novak, Pat Buchanan, Tucker Carlson, Phyllis Schlafly, David Keene (of the American Conservative Union), Richard Viguerie, and among the candidates Ron Paul and probably Tom Tancredo. On the other side are the Bill O’Reilly’s, the Glenn Becks, the Sean Hannity-types, as well as Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson – and, of course, George Bush. You might not care who wins this battle, and you might be happy just to see the Republicans self-destruct, but at least understand what is going on. This is not about personalities. It is about a vastly different view of what America’s role in the world should be. Are we interventionist or are we willing to live and let live? The neo-cons obviously stand for intervention. Where do you stand?

Comment by JoshuasGrandma

There is a vast difference between the speculation regarding what results will be produced from overt negotiations between the US, Turkey and Iraq regarding the PKK and a covert operation involving US special forces to actually hunt down the PKK. Today’s Turkish Weekly quotes Novak as its source for saying US forces will actually be part of the fight. As Novak mentions right in his article, exposure of the US intervening militarily ruins the plan to intervene militarily.
In regard to what the negotiations will overtly produce is the coming agreement between Iraq and Turkey which Maliki promises to sign declaring the PKK a terrorist organization and allowing hot pursuit by Turkey over the border for PKK who go into Turkey. That is vastly different than the US covertly hunting the PKK down inside Iraqi borders. The Kurds are on board for the negotiations and know that the hot pursuit doctrine was coming. What they didn’t know, and everybody now knows, is that the US will be hunting them down inside the Iraqi border, hot pursuit or not. Given all the US mistakes in Iraq when it comes to identifying and pursuing people that have led to the deaths of too many innocents, I think the Kurds will not be pleased to here the US plans to get involved militarily in covert fashion or that the US was trying to keep this operation from the Kurds during negotiations with Turkey over the PKK.

It also quite different to speculate as to what the US might do than to report what the US actual covert operational plans are – those are classified and top secret.

I couldn’t stand to listen to your whiny voice regardless who you were loyal to.

You are better off being shut out from this administration. Why did you wait so long to tell the truth about Plame? A bit “squirrelly” eh? Much like an 8th grader…..always squealing behind someone’s back.