O’Hanlon And Pollack Call For Another ‘Six Months Or So’ In Iraq
O’Hanlon And Pollack Call For Another ‘Six Months Or So’ In Iraq
Last week, in their now infamous New York Times op-ed, Brookings Institution analysts Michael O’Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack declared “there is enough good happening on the battlefields of Iraq today that Congress should plan on sustaining the effort at least into 2008.”
On Fox News Sunday yesterday, O’Hanlon and Pollack put a timeframe on their call for stay the course: six months. “It’s basically saying nothing more dramatic than give it six more months or so, maybe nine more months,” said O’Hanlon. “I agree with Mike entirely that we can’t give this much more time,” added Pollack. Watch it:
The media watchdogs at FAIR noted in 2006 that New York Times columnist Tom Friedman had been repeatedly claiming the “decisive” six months in Iraq were right around the corner. FAIR reported that Friedman’s “‘decisive’ six months have lasted two and a half years.”
Many in the blogosphere warned that O’Hanlon and Pollack were engaging in the same tactic. As Atrios has frequently noted, many proponents of the war have offered “Friedman Units (F.U.)” — i.e. a continual “six-month period that would be required in order to determine the outcome of the Iraq War” — as a way to seek public acquiescence for the occupation.
This is not the first time O’Hanlon and Pollack have called for six months to bring stability to Iraq. On March 1, 2007, O’Hanlon penned an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal arguing for the same extension he called for yesterday:
There are good reasons to give the war effort, now almost four years old, another six to nine months before concluding that the current strategy should be discarded and a much different one…
One year earlier — on March 2, 2006 — Pollack told students at Georgetown that there was “a critical six month window of opportunity to bring some form of stability to Iraq.”
As Gregory Djerejian wrote on Friday, O’Hanlon and Pollack appear to be perpetually “guilty of rose colored glasses” when it comes to Iraq.
Transcript:
CHRIS WALLACE: And absent serious moves toward national reconciliation, does the surge make sense?MICHAEL O’HANLON: I think it makes sense for a while to see if the momentum can spread from the battlefield to the political theater. Ken’s the greater expert on Iraqi politics than I, but my overall impression is if you don’t get even some top-level, top-down movement coming up fairly soon, this thing can’t work. Politics trumps the battleground in the end.
And I think, therefore, this is an interim report from us on the surge, and it’s basically saying nothing more dramatic than give it six more months or so, maybe nine more months.
If things don’t start to progress in that time, I personally would be a lot less optimistic and/or in favor of trying to prod the Iraqis to dump Prime Minister Maliki. That’s me, not Ken.
WALLACE: Well, let me ask you, Ken, do you see any signs that Maliki and the parliament are getting their act together?
KENNETH POLLACK: Basically none. The political side was absolutely dead in the water, exactly as Mike is suggesting.
You know, one thing to keep in mind is that as General Petraeus has repeatedly pointed out, the idea is that with security and local- level economic and political development, you create some space. There’s an expectation that the politics is going to lag. It’s going to take longer.
But this level of political stalemate is absolutely unacceptable. And I agree with Mike entirely that we can’t give this much more time.
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The “Snooze Bar of Death.”
The pro-war fringe can’t be bothered to get out of bed and actually, you know, do something about it, so they hit the snooze bar of death.
No wonder they’re a minority.
August 6th, 2007 at 12:45 pm.
Kind of like another 5 year plan in the USSR?
August 6th, 2007 at 12:45 pmPollack told students at Georgetown that there was “a critical six month window of opportunity to bring some form of stability to Iraq.â€
“Starting…..NOW!” —- 3 months later —– “Ok, NOW!” …… 3 months later….. “No wait..NOW!”…..
August 6th, 2007 at 12:46 pmAnd I’m sure these two nitwits will volunteer for 6 months in Iraqnam themselves. Right?
August 6th, 2007 at 12:46 pmWell, it’s not up to them.
Cheney/Tancredo 2008!
August 6th, 2007 at 12:47 pmWhat the hey, that’s only one more Friedman and maybe one more Warner–no big deal.
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August 6th, 2007 at 12:48 pmThese two abled bodied young men should suit up and join the military. O’Hanlon And Pollack are willing to let more soldiers say in Iraq but wont serve themselves. They come back after a short visit to report lies for the White House. Like Bush/Cheney would were cowards and never served this country in the time of need. I can never understand how people willing let our soldiers die, yet still want more to die by staying in the Iraq Civil War.
August 6th, 2007 at 12:49 pmI call for another 7 months or so…. beat that libs!
August 6th, 2007 at 12:50 pm5 more Iraqi ministers boycott Cabinet
August 6th, 2007 at 12:50 pmFormer Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld: “It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.”
August 6th, 2007 at 12:51 pmI feel like I’ve heard this before….
3670
lets see i remember News years night 3000 US troops dead
another 6 months another 700 dead ………
Why fight them at home when they want you there on the battlefield now
August 6th, 2007 at 12:53 pmSo these fools are cool with another thousand dead Americans. Too bad they won;’t be in any of those flag draped coffins at Dover.
August 6th, 2007 at 12:53 pmEstimated by the Borgen Project, the United States has already funded 340 billion dollars into the war already. We have lost more soldiers and resources to this black hole situation, than we have gained anything fighting the “war on terror”. How about cheaper and more effective solutions to foreign policy? Like fighting GLobal Poverty. This is not complex mathematics. This is logic and ethics.
August 6th, 2007 at 12:55 pmDidn’t the pro-war groups in Vietnam say the same thing? another 6 months, lets give the South Vietnam government time to get it together, we will stand up, when they stand down?
August 6th, 2007 at 12:56 pmThese guys must know Friedman.
Wankers.
August 6th, 2007 at 12:56 pmdirty,DIRTY wankers…
:D
August 6th, 2007 at 12:57 pmAfter all, what’s a couple more Freidmans?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:00 pmFred Thompson 2008.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:01 pm“A Friedman, there’s going to be a Friedman! And then we will have the oral s*x!”
August 6th, 2007 at 1:02 pmEstimated by the Borgen Project, the United States has already funded 340 billion dollars into the war already.
Comment by Erica
The Dems don’t have the stones to cut off the funds.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:02 pm“The Dems don’t have the stones to cut off the funds.
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — August 6, 2007 @ 1:02 pm”
Sadly true, but that is what they need to do.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:03 pmDidn’t the pro-war groups in Vietnam say the same thing? another 6 months, lets give the South Vietnam government time to get it together, we will stand up, when they stand down?
Comment by Krazny
The Dems caused a million people to be slaughtered in Vietnam.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:03 pmwhy doesnt somebody …. anybody on the network/cable news say:
“THIIS IS NONSENSE — THE WAR IS TOTALLY LOST
MORE SOLDIERS DYING EVERY YEAR
NOW 12 BILLION A WEEK WASTED
NATION BUILDING IN REVERSE
END THIS BOTCHED OCCUPATION NOW !
BLAME IT ON BUSH AND THE NEOCONS ”
why wont that message play on any news anywhere in the USA ?
These so called news organizations were the ones
OUTRAGEOUSLY INDIGNIANT AT BILL CLINTON FOR F*CKING SOME INTERN LIKE THAT
THAT ?????????
RUINED AMERICA…..
THANK GOD FOR THINK PROGRESS et. al
because news in america is otherwise DEAD
August 6th, 2007 at 1:04 pm“The Dems caused a million people to be slaughtered in Vietnam.
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — August 6, 2007 @ 1:03 pm”
So that makes it OK to kill thousands????
That justifies your ignorance?????
PLEASE!
August 6th, 2007 at 1:04 pmSo these fools are cool with another thousand dead Americans. Too bad they won;’t be in any of those flag draped coffins at Dover.
Comment by –Blue Girl
You really have no say in the matter. 56% of these troops are Republicans. Only 12% are Dem.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:04 pmThe rolling six months. At least until the Repugnicunts are out of office and the adults will make the right decisions.
Killing and maiming soldiers and civilians, hundreds of billions pissed away. For one pathetic little man’s ego.
Oh, yes…and his pathetic smag eating defenders. Cant’ forget the sycophants can we?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:05 pmThe Dems caused a million people to be slaughtered in Vietnam.
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — August 6, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
Ooh the Big Johnson contest is underway. The rest of the world notes that: “The Americans caused a million people to be slaughtered in Vietnam”.
Just another lousy empire.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:05 pmwhy doesnt somebody …. anybody on the network/cable news say:
“THIIS IS NONSENSE — THE WAR IS TOTALLY LOST
Comment by CYANOCOBALAMINE
Because that would be un-American.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:05 pmThe little cube in the lower left of the picture tells you all you need to know.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:05 pmTotal bullsh*t from go to whoa.
I still can’t believe anyone watches this network thinking it’s valid.
Are these consecutive months?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:06 pm“Comment by CYANOCOBALAMINE — August 6, 2007 @ 1:04 pm”
This if ANYTHING should show America that the news is actually RIGHT leaning and is NOT left as the Republicans like to say……..
When a BJ get’s more news than TWO BOTCHED WARS, then this is a clear sign of the news being REPUBLICAN RUN.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:06 pmThey are going to string this thing right along in 3 to 6-month blocks until, oh, about September ‘08 when they announce that things are looking up, victory is imminent, time to begin “redeploying” and thank goodness for repuke resolve!
bastards
August 6th, 2007 at 1:06 pmThe rolling six months. At least until the Repugnicunts are out of office and the adults will make the right decisions.
Comment by chingebush
If you think we are going to stand back and allow Bill Clinton to turn the White House into a whorehouse again, you’re crazy.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:07 pmPretty much all the Neo-cons have left, is the ability to prolong the war, until Bush is out of office, so the republicans won’t take the blame for the failure. Funny how occupation of Middle eastern countries doesn’t seem to work. Perhaps we should have asked the British, French, and Russians about it, before we invaded.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:07 pmGREAT! Let’s get our troops home now, and send Michael O’Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack over there. They can report back to us in 6 months.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:07 pmSeptember ‘08 when they announce that things are looking up, victory is imminent, time to begin “redeploying†and thank goodness for repuke resolve!
bastards
Comment by margaret
Get ready for 4 years of Thompson/Rudy, my dear!
August 6th, 2007 at 1:08 pm“Because that would be un-American.
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — August 6, 2007 @ 1:05 pm”
WRONG!!!!
Being “un-American” is NOT TELLING THE TRUTH!!!!!
This is what we stand for.
Truth, Justice, and the American way…….
Now it is just “the Bush way”…….. No more Truth and Justice, and America is almost a memory!!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 1:08 pmGREAT! Let’s get our troops home now
Comment by Publicus
How are you going to do that? The Dems are going on vacation for the next month.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:09 pmReally? In my experience, it was pretty evenly split. Officers were more Republican, and even that is changing.
Actually, the real arguments were not over politics - it was X-Box vs Play Station.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:09 pmOh Brass balls, you are so right. We can’t have a President getting a bj now, that is just wrong.
Instead you defend the little loser who starts a war for his own ego.
Right…. STFU b*tch.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:09 pm“How are you going to do that? The Dems are going on vacation for the next month.
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — August 6, 2007 @ 1:09 pm”
So you mean that I can still contact my REPUBLICAN representative????? He is not leaving?????
PLEASE, stop with the IDIOTIC responses…
August 6th, 2007 at 1:10 pmThe only reason that is it unusual to have two fathers give a bride away is that it was unusual, when this custom began, to have more than one father.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:11 pmIf you think we are going to sit back and watch Bush and Cheney F$#k up the country any more you are crazy.
Gen Petraeus was in charge of implementing security forces in Iraq between 2003 and 2005. Over 190,000 weapons that were initially for Iraq security forces had gone missing during this time. Those same weapons are being used against our soldiers.
Care to comment on that (br)Assmask?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:11 pmWe can’t have a President getting a bj now, that is just wrong.
Comment by chingebush
Clinton was getting a bj while talking to a congressman about our troops in Bosnia.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:13 pmSo you mean that I can still contact my REPUBLICAN representative????? He is not leaving?????
Comment by RemoveBush
He’s not the one who pledged to end the war. The Dems did, and they are leaving town for a month while the war wages on, son.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:15 pmClinton was getting a bj while talking to a congressman about our troops in Bosnia.
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — August 6, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Jealous?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:17 pmWe have just done wonders for the Iraqi infrastructure! The grid is in such bad shape, that there is no water supply in West Baghdad.
Oh - and all those missing AK-47’s - 190,000 automatic weaponswent missing when Petraeus was in charge last time!
(I was on duty at Munson AHC when D P took the billet - within an hour I heard four different enlisted personnel morph his name to “Dave Betrayed-Us”)
August 6th, 2007 at 1:17 pmWhat the sound does do is produce a huge amount of saliva and this seems to stimulate the male. A male will stay mounted on the female for a long time (I have personally observed mating that lasted over an hour). During this time other warthog will come and nuzzle the female. It is not known why this is done.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:18 pmI will say one thing about Clinton, he could multi-task. Now if only America could have a president who can watch football and eat pretzels at the same time.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:18 pmAMEN B12!!-er, i mean CYANOCOBALAMIN!!!!
:D
August 6th, 2007 at 1:18 pmUnderstanding how humans hear is a complex subject involving the fields of physiology, psychology and acoustics.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:20 pmCare to comment on that (br)Assmask?
Comment by hellinabucket — August 6, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
But… but 57% of the troops in Iraq are Repubs! How can this be?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:22 pm“He’s not the one who pledged to end the war. The Dems did, and they are leaving town for a month while the war wages on, son.
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — August 6, 2007 @ 1:15 pm”
They have tried……
They have submitted legislation left and right, but the Republicans do what they do best…… OBSTRUCT!!!!
Go ahead and TRY to blame the Dems, but it’s the REPUBLICANS who are actually to blame…..
When they actually stand up by what they speak, instead of saying one thing and VOTING another…… Then you have a leg to stand on!
August 6th, 2007 at 1:22 pmClinton was getting a bj while talking to a congressman about our troops in Bosnia.
Comment by Brassmask from 3DHS — August 6, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
that LUCKY S.O.B.!!!!
;)
August 6th, 2007 at 1:23 pmWhy are you righties so consumed by bjs? Wait never mind, I forgot about the bj President george karl cheney has been given America.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:23 pmdirty,DIRTY wankers…
:D
Comment by whiteyfresh — August 6, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
Hey whitey, how’s it going?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:23 pmRemoveBush: They are not Republicans (with a capital R), they are republics, (with a very small r).
August 6th, 2007 at 1:24 pmIn 2008, America will get 8 (hopefully 16) Freidman units.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:27 pmRemoveBush: They are not Republicans (with a capital R), they are republics, (with a very small r).
Comment by Brassmaskleftnut — August 6, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
——————————————————
This is the dumbest thing I have heard today.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:27 pmrepublics. republics. republics, repeat after me. Now, don’t you feel better.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:29 pmYou know, I have to counter further Assmask’s assertion that the military is overwhelmingly Republican.
Every time that absolutely ignorant trope is trotted out again, remind the moron speaking about the KS-02 and the 2006 midterms. The KS-02 is home to both Ft. Riley and Ft. Leavenworth, and Democratic challenger Nancy Boyda defeated incumbent Republican Jim Ryun in a landslide.
Now, you were saying?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pmThis is the dumbest thing I have heard today.
Comment by Pyrrho — August 6, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
You don’t read your own stuff, huh?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pmZooey, you rock.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:32 pmLets see eight days in Iraq qualifies you as an expert with their institute. I would agree to another six months if first these two numbnuts sign up today and taketheir positions outside the green zone. LIke the rest of their cohorts they have not served a single day. Michael Ware where are you?
August 6th, 2007 at 1:33 pmOne more thing…It has been a while since I took the service oath, but I didn’t recall any reference to the Republican Party as the object I was pledging loyalty and fidelity to, but being reality based, and prefering to deal in facts rather than fantasy, I went back and checked.
I had not misremembered. The Republican Party is not mentioned even once in the service oath! It’s all about that most lefty of documents, the Constitution!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 1:34 pmYou don’t read your own stuff, huh?
Comment by Zooey — August 6, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
Zing!
August 6th, 2007 at 1:37 pmWoohoo. Another Friedman unit…
August 6th, 2007 at 1:43 pmSend them back for 6 more months in the green zone.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:44 pm7 more months…!!.
Isn’t that what we were told in January.!
August 6th, 2007 at 1:44 pm7 more months…!!.
Isn’t that what we were told in January.!
Comment by tarazan — August 6, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
Odds on hearing it once again in Jan. ‘08? Very high is my guess.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pmComment by Blueboy — August 6, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
Comment by toasterhead — August 6, 2007 @ 1:37 pm
Thanks. :-)
August 6th, 2007 at 1:59 pm#
republics. republics. republics, repeat after me. Now, don’t you feel better.
Comment by Notanotherstinkingtroll — August 6, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Hey, hey, hey… you’re giving me a bad name here!
August 6th, 2007 at 2:02 pm#
I call for another 7 months or so…. beat that libs!
Comment by Mr. Peenis — August 6, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
From your name, it appears that you’re beating it right now, which means, yes, you have beaten the libs to it. Thank god for samll favors.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:03 pm“You really have no say in the matter. 56% of these troops are Republicans. Only 12% are Dem.” - Dr. Dog
Last I checked, all 56% worked for the American people.
Besides, we’re interested in protecting all the troops, even those who are mentally deficient.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:06 pmThe war mongering powers that be have managed to muddy the argument to such an extent that the war is sustainable…. and for anyone who doubts that we are going into Iran, this DAILY SHOW clip might have you thinking otherwise
VIDEO -
August 6th, 2007 at 2:09 pmhttp://beta.redlasso.com/ Community/ ClipPlayer.aspx?i=fb9fbee3-18b6-434a-9df6-3ad9bf49b6f1
the funny thing is that, during the repub debate last w/e, giuliani actually said he was surprised (!) that the NYT had published this guy’s pro-surge op-ed (being a “liberal” paper and all).
hey rudy, remember what the NYT was saying back in late 2002 and early 2003? still liberal, rudy? f*cking moron.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:22 pmAs much as they want to stay the Neocon Repukes will shit their paints coming november, that’s why the Dems need to keep up the pressure.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:29 pmMr. O’Hanlon is well under the age of 40 it seems. If he agrees to conscript himself to the military for “nine months” or more, I am willing to give the surge more time, since it would raise the chances of him experiencing an untoward accident.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:32 pmHow come Doogie Howser O’Hanlon isn’t fighting in the ‘Most Important Battle in the History of Civilization’? He’s clearly old enough. When he says “we” need to give it another 6 months or so, what exactly does his participation entail?
August 6th, 2007 at 2:34 pmZooey:sorry-went to lunch…
I’m doin’ groovaliciously!!!
mY BIRTHDAY WAS YESTERDAY!!
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
August 6th, 2007 at 2:36 pmHappy belated birthday whiteyfresh! Hope it was a good one.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:48 pmMaybe he means that’s six months in Dog years. So 1 to 7 ratio….that’d be 3.5 more years?
August 6th, 2007 at 2:54 pmAll F.U.s automatically reboot within a pseudo-random time frame, it’s a feature, not a bug.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:14 pmComment by margaret — August 6, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Oh, god, it was fantastic-I went to a free dance party, got lots of hugs from pretty ladies, made my friends buy me drinkis….
then came in to workat 7am on Sunday.(the dance party was on Saturday-the drinksstarted rolling in past midnight.)
August 6th, 2007 at 3:14 pmWarmongers often appeal to five core concerns—about issues of vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness—in order to galvanize public support for their agenda. I examine how Bush/Cheney and their neocon allies have used these particular appeals to promote the misguided and destructive Iraq war in a 10-minute online video entitled “Resisting the Drums of War” available for viewing HERE. Looking ahead, the continuing occupation of Iraq–or an attack on Iran–will likely be sold to us in much the same way.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWhat the hell, why not 7 months, or even 9.75 months?
Do these guys just make it up as they go?
Yes.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:26 pmComment by whiteyfresh — August 6, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Sounds like fun! Good for you going around telling everyone it’s your b-day so you can collect hugs all night! That’s the spirit! They (psychologists) say that you need at least six hugs a day for good mental health. Work on Sunday must have been a bit tough though.
Speaking of psychologists, Roy Eidelson, I’ll be sure to check out your video tonight! Thanks for sharing. Am I right about the hugs? : )
August 6th, 2007 at 4:38 pmFor those of you trying so hard to justify staying in Iraq by reminding folks that a million Vietnamese died after we left, I’d like to remind you the conditions on the ground were completely different. In Vietnam, the North had won decisively. They had the guns and the ammo. Armed resistance in the South had pretty much come to an end. Then the “reeducation camps” were opened and the killing began in earnest.
In Iraq, all the factions are well armed and will continue to be after we leave. Bloodbaths don’t happen when both sides have guns and know how to use them.
It really would be nice if some of you crazy wingers would read some serious history. Or, STFU.
August 6th, 2007 at 5:15 pmGiuliani is carrying more bagage then a bellhop at a magician’s convention. If nominated, he will dcarry the Rupublic Party into oblivion.
August 6th, 2007 at 7:25 pmOut of Iraq - GENERAL STRIKE SEPT. 11th!
Buy nothing - do nothing - be you banker, baker, candle-stick maker. Stay home, go to the park. Bring this country to a standstill!
BE HEARD! Pass it on.
August 6th, 2007 at 8:12 pmIt is immoral to give another 6 months to a policy (surge) that has failed. If it has already failed waiting six more months will make no difference. The surge was supposed to allow Maliki breathing room to make political concessions. Instead the Sunni members have left the parliament and the parliament has gone on vacation while we continue to lose more American lives every month. The surge has failed. We can no longer win this war militarily even Petraeus has said this. O’Hanlon and Pollack like Bush and Cheney want more time because they can’t admit how wrong the have been.
August 6th, 2007 at 8:16 pmyou can’t call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid…..these guys have got to stop making predictions and offering advice and coming up with catch phrases like “the surge is working” and “last throes” and “if we leave they’ll follow us home”
August 6th, 2007 at 8:16 pm“Yeah, and we would have won in Vietnam if it wasn’t for the anti-war cowards and communist supporters.”
…That’s how the argument goes. And that’s how the argument will go if the USA pulls out of Iraq.
But the Democrats could always come up with an intelligent, constructive policy that builds moral authority instead of falling for the either/or simplism that the Republican’s present.
August 6th, 2007 at 8:56 pm“Out of Iraq - GENERAL STRIKE SEPT. 11th!”
Com_n_sense:
That is a GREAT idea! Except, I would make the demand FULL RESTORATION of our unalienable rights: habeas corpus, due process, warrants, and all that.
Because it is our DUTY, according to the Declaration of Independence, to alter or abolish any government that is destructive of our rights. This is what patriots need to do.
Can we get moveon.org or some other group to organize this?
August 6th, 2007 at 8:57 pm6 months = 1 Friedman Unit “FU” = 2 Bohner Extensions
August 6th, 2007 at 9:46 pmWoooo Hoooooo
a bunch of Oil Stealing jack booted occupation amerikan stormtroopers got all blowed up in Iraq today !!!
Surge This, amerika !!!
Fight On Iraqi Freedom Fighters !!!
Exterminate and slaughter the kkkhristian crusading invaders and occupiers !!!!
choke on that Oil amerika !!!!
August 7th, 2007 at 12:02 amComment by Got Oil ? — August 7, 2007 @ 12:02 am
Any comments that deride the sacrifice and service of our troops should be condemned in the strongest terms.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:21 amSpeaking of progress / setbacks in Iraq and the Patreus report, here is what defense secretary Robert Gates has to say about the recent troubles in Iraq
VIDEO - Meet The Press / Robert Gates
August 7th, 2007 at 10:47 amhttp://beta.redlasso.com/ Community/ ClipPlayer.aspx?i=43687bf9-4c8d-4ea9-a421-9ab1158ba2f2