Tancredo’s Plan To Bomb Mecca Lambasted By Conservatives
Tancredo’s Plan To Bomb Mecca Lambasted By Conservatives
Last week, Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) reiterated his call for bombing Muslim holy sites as a “deterrent” against terrorist strikes on the U.S. homeland. “If it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy sites in Mecca and Medina,” he said in Iowa.
“This shows that we mean business,” said Bay Buchanan, a senior Tancredo adviser. “There’s no more effective deterrent than that.”
Chicago Sun-Times columnist Neil Steinberg responded, “That’s nuts, of course, not only contrary to every cherished American ideal, but counterproductive, as the prospect of the United States bombing Islamic holy cities would inspire, rather than deter, terrorists.” Fortunately, many leading conservatives have distanced themselves from Tancredo’s dangerous logic:
Former Wisconsin Governor Tommy Thompson: “I sincerely believe that bombing religious artifacts and religious holy sites would do nothing but unify one billion Muslims against us. It makes no sense.”
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee: “Historically, we’ve tried to avoid doing what the Nazis did, and that’s bombing every kind of possible target. We’ve had this attitude (that) we don’t do these things. There are some things that are off limits.”
Rep. Duncan Hunter: “I wouldn’t follow that.”
State Department Spokesman Tom Casey: Tancredo’s comments are “reprehensible” and “absolutely crazy.”
State Department Spokesman Sean McCormack: “The remarks are simply outrageous. … [I]t’s important for people abroad, who may not necessarily pay attention to the details and just hear a headline with that in it, that the official position of the United States Government is that those remarks are just outrageous.”
Tancredo’s comments have created international concern. Pakistani National Assembly Speaker Chaudhary Amir Hussain said the assembly will “unanimously adopt a resolution against this mischievous statement.”
For his part, Tancredo is refusing to back down. At last weekend’s debate, he responded, “Boy, when [the State Department] starts complaining about things I say, ‘I feel a lot better about the things I say,’ I’ll tell you right now.”
You can email Tancredo’s official blogger by clicking here. Let him know you want to see Tancredo retract his remarks.
UPDATE: The New York Times blog labels Tancredo’s ludicrous bombing plan a “tough stance.”
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August 6th, 2007 at 9:52 pmGood idea, Tancredo!!! There is nothing like bombing Mecca (throw in Medina…sh!t, why not Bethlehem…).
August 6th, 2007 at 9:55 pmUderstatements of the year:
1. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee: “Historically, we’ve tried to avoid doing what the Nazis did, and that’s bombing every kind of possible target. We’ve had this attitude (that) we don’t do these things. There are some things that are off limits.â€
2. Tom Tancredo: Slamming my nuts in the door was not a good idea
August 6th, 2007 at 9:55 pmSorry for the bad news, Mr. P.
August 6th, 2007 at 9:55 pmIf I didn’t know better I would think Tancredo was one of our VERY intelligent trolls. What a fool.
August 6th, 2007 at 9:55 pmYeah, well, he’s nuts.
The “Protect America Act.” Lordy, what a name. Couple it with “The Patriot Act,” and Americans have lost practically all of their freedoms. I want a “Protect America From Bush Act.” That act would also be known as impeachment.
August 6th, 2007 at 9:57 pmCrazy Tommy sure knows how to get everyone’s attention! And he may be the smartest and most honest of the Repug candidates.
August 6th, 2007 at 9:58 pmupside, I hope you are not talking about Tommy Thompson. I, as a Wisconsinite know he is dumb as a box of hammers.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:00 pmHow about the protect America from the UAE act? That wouldn’t work since it is not good for business.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:00 pmWas talking about Tancredo (in total sarcasm). And I am from Colorado, so I know of what I speak!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:01 pm“Crazy Tommy sure knows how to get everyone’s attention! And he may be the smartest and most honest of the Repug candidates.”
Maybe the most honest. He is ok with his KKK tendencies. Not going to get many votes. Ron Paul is the SAME guy but some libs will STILL vote for him.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:02 pmHe is helping the terrorist by giving them a reason to be pissed off at America. This only increases their recruiting opportunities.
I am sure by now it is in all the terrorist media with a 1-800-kill-Americans-now number to join up.
What a bone head, the lengths these guys will go to pander to the “base”
August 6th, 2007 at 10:03 pmupside, I totally understand. We have our own retard (Tommy Thompson). I feel for you.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:03 pm2. Tom Tancredo: Slamming my nuts in the door was not a good idea
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 6, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Yeah, BUT… tom can finally hit those high notes when he signs!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:03 pmToo bad he isn’t a mormon, Republic, I hear they like the eunich sopranos.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:04 pmI’m not sure that counts as “lambasting”. Tancredo needs to be b!tch-slapped, and then handed a resignation letter to sign.
Unfortuneately, there are way too many others who need exactly the same treatment.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:06 pmTom Tancretin
One of the 3 rube douchebags that stupidly raised his hand when asked about the question of not believing in evolution , believes that obliteration is the answer.
A dopey douchebag that believes Adam and Eve rode on the back of a dinosaur into the Garden of Eden , and who watches the Flintstones as a documentary , shouldn’t even be acknowledged …..
August 6th, 2007 at 10:09 pmNah. The real conservatives love that idea.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:09 pmPeter, I am thinking the Republican primary is going to be plenty of lambasting for him.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:09 pmAh, finally.
Something these RWA morons won’t go along with….
August 6th, 2007 at 10:10 pmBam bam and pebbles were real, dammit!!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:10 pmWhat is RWA Zoo??? I think I MIGHT know!! :)
August 6th, 2007 at 10:11 pmIohannes, are you serious? I kind of ignored you because it was so stupid (thinking it was a joke). Not so sure now. Are you really that stupid?
August 6th, 2007 at 10:12 pmTancredo stole his idea from Mr. P.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:12 pmWhat is RWA Zoo??? I think I MIGHT know!! :)
Comment by JPark — August 6, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
Right Wing Authoritarians
August 6th, 2007 at 10:14 pmTommy Tancredo is incredible. He needs a colonoscopy bag attached to his head.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:15 pmIohannes,
If you really want to be scared about something, just imagine Cheney as VP on any Republican ticket in 2008. With Diebold and Sequoia and our complicit media, there nothing in the Constitution that says the Prince of Darkness couldn’t be VP for as long as the undead last.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:16 pmCrap. Zoo, I thought it was a$$holes!! I know the study. They love to be dominated…So, I guess I am kinda right.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:16 pmIt should go without saying that this post is lying: Tancredo only suggested that as a response if several U.S. cities are nuked.
He did not suggest it in the way that ThinkProgress says.
ThinkProgress is lying to you.
Want proof? Listen to the audio:
iowapolitics.com/index.iml?Article=101389
August 6th, 2007 at 10:19 pm“as the prospect of the United States bombing Islamic holy cities would inspire, rather than deter, terrorists”
Good! It will then give us the excuse to do what we should have done years ago. Nuke them!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:20 pmBut.. but… TP wouldn’t lie…. would it?
http://iowapolitics.com/index.iml?Article=101389
August 6th, 2007 at 10:21 pmIf you really want to be scared about something, just imagine Cheney as VP on any Republican ticket in 2008. With Diebold and Sequoia and our complicit media, there nothing in the Constitution that says the Prince of Darkness couldn’t be VP for as long as the undead last.
Comment by Peter C — August 6, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
How apt! Remember Darth Vader was restored from virtual death. Imagine Darth Cheney in the same assemblage. Please wait, I have to puke.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:21 pmI think there are some arguments that are so foul that they should disqualify you from public office if you utter them. You have free speech; you may say such things. But, you’d better go find a cabin in a National forest to live in, because no one should ever give you the time of day again.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:22 pmImmigration2008DotCom, when you decide to think of something else, other than immigration, I may listen to you. Seems you are kind of obsessed though. Pathetic.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:22 pmBut, Iohannes wouldn’t suck the right wing spigot, would he????
August 6th, 2007 at 10:23 pmMichael wants to nuke them. I hope he dies soon.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:23 pmGood! It will then give us the excuse to do what we should have done years ago. Nuke them!
Comment by Michael — August 6, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
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That’s what I say!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:24 pmGood! It will then give us the excuse to do what we should have done years ago. Nuke them!
Comment by Michael — August 6, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
Hey, what would a TP thread be w/out at least ONE nihisitic moron on it?
August 6th, 2007 at 10:24 pmHe’s a dumbass. Goes to who you how stupid candidates for office can be here.
Stupid idiot.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:29 pmThat would be some good propaganda to Westernize Iraq.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:30 pmWhy ‘Possums? Possums are Wonderful. I want to connect with other possum people (I know they exist). I also want to bring awareness that possums are an important link on our planet.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:30 pm“as the prospect of the United States bombing Islamic holy cities would inspire, rather than deter, terroristsâ€
Good! It will then give us the excuse to do what we should have done years ago. Nuke them!
Comment by Michael — August 6, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
You’re a real imbecile ; you be shoved into a burlap bag and beaten to death with shovel handles ……
August 6th, 2007 at 10:30 pmmeanwhile,,MORE PROPAGANDA BY BUSH!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:30 pmCAMP DAVID, Maryland (CNN) — Afghan President Hamid Karzai said Monday that the Taliban still endanger innocent people, but they pose no significant threat either to his government or to its institutions.
Immigration2008DotCom: “Tancredo only suggested that as a response if several U.S. cities are nuked.”
Even so, it is still a horrible and apocalyptic idea. How about we not make threats to nuke their cities? Such threats will most likely only encourage radicals with martyrdom fetishes to “crush” the “Crusaders” before the Crusaders have a chance to crush them. Tancredo’s suggestion shows he has a near utter lack of knowledge as to how the Middle East works right now, specifically with regard to radicals. Such men don’t belong in government.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:31 pmAugust 6th, 2007 at 10:32 pm
Okay. Bye! (Sound of troops withdrawing)
August 6th, 2007 at 10:32 pmI am thinking the Taliban will take over the Afghani gov’t soon. If you disagree you are kind of an idiot (that would be you bushfights).
August 6th, 2007 at 10:34 pmWell, since you ask, there is this:
GWB: I’m going to restore dignity to the Presidency
August 6th, 2007 at 10:34 pmLOL, dignity and Bush. That is funny.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:35 pmmeanwhile,,MORE PROPAGANDA BY BUSH!
CAMP DAVID, Maryland (CNN) — Afghan President Hamid Karzai said Monday that the Taliban still endanger innocent people, but they pose no significant threat either to his government or to its institutions.
Comment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs. — August 6, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Um, “President” Karzai, I have a question. What is a government and its institutions without its people?
August 6th, 2007 at 10:38 pm#
LOL, dignity and Bush. That is funny.
Comment by JPark — August 6, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Sorry JPARK- NOT IN THE LAUGHING MOOD!&@#$@%!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:39 pmNO MATTER HOW FUNNY!
AMERICA IS DOOMED!
Comment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs. — August 6, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
Chill out, man.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:40 pmBUSH IS ,ALONG WITH FREEDUMB LOVERS, MR DANGER! TO AMERICA!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:40 pmCOMEON, DON
Good! It will then give us the excuse to do what we should have done years ago. Nuke them!
Comment by Michael — August 6, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
Didn’t you mean “invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity”?
August 6th, 2007 at 10:41 pmChill out, man.
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Right… do w/ Mr. P does - put on your leather Greek outfit and march around the basement to the Mickey Mouse Club song!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:41 pmComment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
August 6th, 2007 at 10:43 pmWilliam Kristol, Chairman.
YEA, MOTHREFCUKER, I,M ON TOO YOU!
BILL KRISTOL, THE DUMBASS!
Comment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs. — August 6, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Take a chill pill, bro.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:43 pmComment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs. — August 6, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
Relax, be happy!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:44 pmBold caps and exclamation points have been copyrighted by the trolls.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:45 pmIohannes Scottus Eriugena —
http://www.newamericancentury.org/index.html
August 6th, 2007 at 10:45 pmWilliam Kristol, Chairman.
Comment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs. — August 6, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
You should really just feel happy!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:46 pmWhen I went to Hiroshima in November 1945 with my parents (The triplets stayed with Nana.) the city was still a mass of gray. From the tender age of four and six months, I still carry images of bone fragments in the debris field more than 61 years later. The nightmares become more vivid with each passing year.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:47 pmNuking Mecca.
Think the USA can stand another oil embargo?
And how about a world in which vacationing Americans are killed off a couple a dqay, by poisoned food at restaurants and beheadings on the streets of Munich?
Nuke Mecca.
Think the USA can handle the fall of the House of Saud?
Think the USA could deal with Osama bin Laden being declared King of Arabia?
(think that couldn’t happen? Then a new government–a jihadi goverment, armed with billions of dollars of state-of-the-art weaponry that we just gave them. Think Washington would be safe from a squadron of American built interceptors, flown by American-trained pilots, carrying the Pakistani nuclear arsenal?)
Nuts in the door doesn’t begin to cover it.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:48 pmI am amazed that anyone would elect Tancredo to any position at any level of government.
His comment about “nuking” the two holiest Islamic shrines appears to be serious. It reveals to me a man of little intellect with no morals, who shoots from the hip and does not care about the effect of his words.
He reminds me of Dr. Strangelove. He is dangerous should be removed from office posthaste.
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Comment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs. — August 6, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
I see you feel happy now. Good, good.
It’s also good that things are looking up, in Iraq!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:00 pmWhen I went to Hiroshima in November 1945 with my parents (The triplets stayed with Nana.) the city was still a mass of gray. From the tender age of four and six months, I still carry images of bone fragments in the debris field more than 61 years later. The nightmares become more vivid with each passing year.
Comment by WaltTheMan — August 6, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
Thank you, Walt. You’ve seen something I hope none of us ever sees again.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:01 pmAll of ISE’s links have Kool-Aid stains on them.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:02 pmComment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
August 6th, 2007 at 11:02 pm%^$&@#! YOU BILL KRISTOL!
FAIZ & BILL KRISTOL?
TEAMSTERS?
WHY ELSE WOULD MY COMMENTS NOT SHOW UP?
August 6th, 2007 at 11:03 pmWHY ELSE WOULD MY COMMENTS NOT SHOWUP!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:03 pmChill out, man.
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Right… do w/ Mr. P does - put on your leather Greek outfit and march around the basement to the Mickey Mouse Club song!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
That would be simple, since he clearly is Mr Pee.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:04 pmFAIZ & BILL KRISTOL?
TEAMSTERS?
Comment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs. — August 6, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
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What are you talking about?
Have you forgotten what your Democrat Party masters want?!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:09 pmlooks like a trooll fest, but i’ll post this anyway…
earlier, mike malloy was reading an email from a guy who pointed out that the VATICAN wasn’t bombed during the irish troubles…
August 6th, 2007 at 11:19 pm…
The Democrats Want You…to shut your traps
By Michelle Malkin • July 22, 2007 10:40 PM
Bumped…originally posted July 21, 2007 @ 22:12
Baron Bodissey at Gates of Vienna sends the Photoshop of the Week, dedicated to the “See Something, Shut Up†Democrats who blocked the John Doe amendment:
Michelle Malkin ??????
August 6th, 2007 at 11:19 pmYou ARE Jocking,, RIGHT???
Then, maybe you are NOT???BILL KRISTOL? FAIZ?
JOKING?
August 6th, 2007 at 11:21 pmOh, and as an ex-medievalist I’m begging you–PLEASE correct your posting name.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:26 pmEach time you hit the button, an angel falls off the head of a pin and breaks its neck.
I DON’T want Tom to retract his remarks. That nut needs to be allowed to make sure we all understand just how much of a nut he is.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:29 pmABOUT Michelle Malkin
August 6th, 2007 at 11:30 pmhttp://michellemalkin.com/
ABOUT Iohannes Scottus Eriugena
August 6th, 2007 at 11:32 pmhttp://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm
ABOUT WILLIAM(BILL)KRISTOL
August 6th, 2007 at 11:33 pmhttp://www.newamericancentury.org/williamkristolbio.htm
Good! It will then give us the excuse to do what we should have done years ago. Nuke them!
Comment by Michael — August 6, 2007 @ 10:20 pm
You do realize how incredibly stupid this is, don’t you? Just in case you truly have the intelligence of linoleum, I’ll explain.
Let’s see — if you want to “nuke” a billion or so very angry Muslims because they are out for blood after you destroyed their holy sites (or maybe you just want to “nuke” them all because you’re a bigot), you would have to nuke a large part of the world. Over half of Africa, all of the Middle East (even Israel — Muslims live there, too), much of Asia, and Indonesia would have to be leveled to get them all.
Do you really think the rest of the world is going to sit back quietly while this is going on? We would be viewed as a rabid dog that has to be destroyed. What’s left of the world would be unified against us to the point where we would cease to exist (we aren’t the only ones with nukes, you know).
Let’s recap — it’s total lunacy to bomb sites that are of great religious importance to a fifth of the world’s population. And there are no words to describe the absurdity of practicing nuclear genocide on them.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:36 pmPrior to that, Mr. Kristol served as chief of staff to Vice President Dan Quayle during the first Bush Administration.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:36 pmMr. Kristol served on the faculty of Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government (1983-1985) and the Department of Political Science at the University of Pennsylvania (1979-1983).
Mr. Kristol has published numerous articles and essays on topics including constitutional law, political philosophy, and public policy, and has co-edited several books, including The Neoconservative Imagination (with Christopher DeMuth, 1995), Educating the Prince: Essays in Honor of Harvey Mansfield (with Mark Blitz, 2000), Present Dangers (with Robert Kagan, 2000), Bush v. Gore: The Court Cases and the Commentary (with E. J. Dionne, Jr., 2001), and The Future is Now: American Confronts the New Genetics (with Eric Cohen, 2002). He is the co-author, with Lawrence Kaplan, of the best-selling book The War Over Iraq. Widely recognized as one of the nation’s leading political analysts and commentators, Mr. Kristol regularly appears on Fox News Channel.
Mr. Kristol has published numerous articles and essays on topics including constitutional law, political philosophy, and public policy, and has co-edited several books, including The Neoconservative Imagination (with Christopher DeMuth, 1995), Educating the Prince: Essays in Honor of Harvey Mansfield (with Mark Blitz, 2000), Present Dangers (with Robert Kagan, 2000), Bush v. Gore: The Court Cases and the Commentary (with E. J. Dionne, Jr., 2001), and The Future is Now: American Confronts the New Genetics (with Eric Cohen, 2002). He is the co-author, with Lawrence Kaplan, of the best-selling book The War Over Iraq. Widely recognized as one of the nation’s leading political analysts and commentators, Mr. Kristol regularly appears on Fox News Channel..
August 6th, 2007 at 11:37 pmComment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs — August 6, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
August 6th, 2007 at 11:38 pmWhat’s wrong, you don’t want to see America win!?
Did You Know? Peanuts are one of the ingredients of dynamite.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:38 pmThanks, I didn,t know that.
I Don,t want to see RETHUGS WIN!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:39 pmWhat’s wrong, you don’t want to see America win!?
Comment by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena — August 6, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
I DON,T WANT TO SEE RETHUGS WIN!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:40 pmYOU SEE,,, WITH RETHUGS IN CHARGE,, WE REALLY DO LOSE FREEDOMS!!!!!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:41 pmRETHUGLIGOONS= MAFIAS GETTING STRONGER!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:42 pmComment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs — August 6, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
You truly are Godless.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:42 pmYOU DON,T KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT GOD!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:44 pmALL YOU KNOW IS FREEDOM!
SOOO, YOU ARE GODLESS!!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:44 pmThis topic warrants serious discussion. It is a shame to see the comments section flooded with inaneness like that above…
August 6th, 2007 at 11:44 pmEXPLAIN inaneness
August 6th, 2007 at 11:45 pmEAT THOU FROM THAT TREE OF KNOWLEDGE!
August 6th, 2007 at 11:46 pmYE SHALL DIE!!
Tancredo’s plan is too stupid even for George W Bush. And that’s saying something.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:47 pmComment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs — August 6, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
You don’t seem happy anymore.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:48 pmYou should…
EXPLAIN inaneness
Comment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs — August 6, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
August 6th, 2007 at 11:49 pm———————–
With things going so GREAT in Iraq, I don’t see your point.
Friday, Jul. 06, 2007
August 6th, 2007 at 11:50 pmWhy Americans Should Feel Happy
By William Kristol
curtesy by Iohannes Scottus Eriugena
SOOO, YOU ARE GODLESS!!
Comment by bushfightsforyourfreedumbs — August 6, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
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Not me.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:51 pmI’m a True American, and I believe in the True Religion!!!
I hope you are feeling better, man.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:56 pmLOL, the TRUE RELIGION. That is good. The one where you are to be stoned to death for eating lobster?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:04 amSo, Tancredo’s bombing idea is a “tough” stance, eh?
As opposed to ridiculous, dangerous, foolish, preposterous, risible, ludicrous, obscene, unconscionable, immoral, or flat-out insane.
Well, that damned liberal media sure know how to smack down these moonstruck mass-murdering fascists, don’t they?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:06 amTancredo’s remarks are out of the mainstream. He embarrassed himself by making such “crazy” statements. Even the State Department chastised him for his remarks. What can one expect if he’s taking advise from someone like Bay Buchanan. Her views are often racist and out of touch with reality just like her brother, Pat.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:15 amWell, well. Apparently talking with Chavez, Castro and Kim Jong Il is naive and irresponsible, but bombing the holiest site of one of the world’s major religions is taking a tough stance.
Good grief! To think what a few racist cartoons in a minor Danish newspaper sparked. This would be a 1000 times worst than Bush’s “Bring it on” comment.
Of course, I’m coming to the conclusion that America is the rogue state. I was talking to someone who was in the states after 9/11 and there was a story in the news about a redneck who gunned down a Sikh because they thought he was a Muslim.
What was really shocking was that the apparently normal people she was visiting didn’t think it was so strange to murder an innocent person in response to 9/11, just that the killer should have done his research before he went on his vigilante rampage.
“Why do they hate us?” Americans ask. I’d say, “What’s not to hate?”
August 7th, 2007 at 12:31 amWatch out, everybody — Mr. Pee has a “bold” button and he’s not afraid to use it !!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2007 at 12:37 am“Tancredo only suggested that as a response if several U.S. cities are nuked.â€
what if its not even muslims that did it? if it was christian apolocalypic militiamen, should we nuke rome?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:54 amMan, that dude need to cheer up!!!
August 7th, 2007 at 12:54 amThis is a good post. Does anyone here question why TP on one hand makes Tancredo look like an idiot, but on the other, paints many in the Republican party as reasonable for their open disagreement with Tancredo?
Maybe the people at ThinkProgress understand that the ‘Republicans as Nazis’ sentiment that is prevalent here turns away the more moderate and reasonable visitors here, jeopardizing the credibility and viability of the site. Good work, TP.
August 7th, 2007 at 6:44 amI love Think Progress, I read it everyday. I just don’t like seeing little updates like the one for the New York Times where it would lead you to believe that the NYT approves of Tancredo’s remarks. From my perspective, it seems like the NYT believes Tancredo is just posturing himself as the toughest guy in the room. Republicans have to show who’s got the biggest etc around, whether there’s a brain behind it or not. Sure he’s tough, but insane.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:03 amSomeone who is rational please explain to me how Tancredo is in any shape, form or fashion NOT a TERRORIST equivalent to a member of Al Qaeda planning to bomb an American population center.
That’s what I thought. There IS NO DIFFERENCE.
He should be arrested for threatening terrorist acts.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:38 am103 / brilliantly spotted
There was a Muslim protest in Londo where a Muslim guy had a banner that said Bomb America ……..he was jailed for 6 years
Tancredo should be charged and jailed, nobody realises just how bad he makes America look
August 7th, 2007 at 8:50 amccokzblog
DESASTER STORKE IN NYC
August 7th, 2007 at 8:58 amYouse Guys are too hard on Tancredo. His policy should be extended to other religions. For example, we should bomb the Vatican and Lourdes and other Catholic holy sites unless the Church renounces its opposition to birth control and abortion, policies which are effectively more damaging and destructive than international terrorism.
The Catholic Church has been a terrorist organization for 1700 years already.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:59 amtaliban
August 7th, 2007 at 9:03 amancient buddhist statues
nuff said
You can email Tancredo’s official blogger by clicking here. Let him know you want to see Tancredo retract his remarks.
Retract his remarks? Who cares if he retracts his remarks? His non-apology won’t make a damn bit of difference to HIM! Vote him out. Start counting down your days as a US Rep. Tancredo.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:27 amHis apology wouldn’t be heartfelt or sincere, it would be an act. No thanks. Just make sure the hateful little beast never represents the state of Colorado again.
It’s interesting, in reading the responses provided, that the people running for President use soft language whereas the State Dept employees call it for what it is “crazy”, and “outrageous.” I prefer the State Dept responses in this case.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:34 amyou trolls just don’t get it.
the name of this game is “someone has to decide where the madness ends”. even if terrorists nuke a u.s. city, nuking mecca or medina is a horrible idea.
if i have a crazy brother and he kills your sister, do you respond by coming to my house and burning it down? well, only if you’re an inbred hilljack or basically crazy yourself. essentially tancredo is saying he’s either an inbred hilljack or certifiably insane.
notithstanding the fact that mecca is in saudi arabia and responding by nuking a city there would, in effect, be signing our economy’s death warrant. without oil, we don’t have the means to fight anyone, produce food, or distribute goods. our economy would shut down and the result would be even more chaos in america.
so anybody that thinks this idea by tancredo actually has any merit is a grade a, 100% verified idiot.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:48 amWe can all agree that Tancredo’s comments are insane.
What’s amazing to me is this:
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Hard-line Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said yesterday that his recent comments that Israel should be “wiped off the map” represent Iran’s long-standing policy on the Jewish state and don’t mark a change in position.
We all decry (rightly so) that Tancredo’s comments are insane. But why are we so hesitant to acknowledge the seriousness and threatening nature of the comments coming from the leadership in much of the middle east. When was the last TP post shedding some light on Islamic intolerance? We’re pretty good at beating up on conservative republicans. Is it prudent to fixate on the splinter in our eye, while we ignore the plank in the eye of our Islamic brothers?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:13 amI agree with the SGT. I don’t want to hear a retraction. I want to see him out of our govt.
Only the one’s pushing for a holy war would think this is acceptable.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:16 ampaul, as crazy as the Iranian President is (and he is a loon) this would be more of Israel’s issue and let Israel directly respond instead of us being the world’s Police.
That was the republican stance. Or have the republicans flip flopped on this as well as small govt, fiscal responsibility and family values?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:18 amif the NYT thinks this is a tough stance, then they are clearly drinking the same kool-aid as Tommy boy.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:30 amwell, paul, ahmadinejad’s insanity aside, considering there isn’t a persian phrase that equates to “wiped off the map” (it’s a western phrase and a western interpretation of what he said), it’s kind of silly for you to rely on one narrow misinterpretation of a statement of by a man who doesn’t even have the power to order the iranian army to make one threatening move.
compare that to bush saying “bring ‘em on” or calling the war on terror a “crusade”. compare that to our 4 carrier groups in the straits of hormuz.
i wonder if you would feel threatened, paul, if iran had four carrier groups off the coast of florida right now. i wonder if you would feel threatened, paul, if iran had more than 20 military bases in mexico, canada and the carribean. perhaps then you might understand the posture that iran is taking.
but probably not.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:53 amWe all decry (rightly so) that Tancredo’s comments are insane. But why are we so hesitant to acknowledge the seriousness and threatening nature of the comments coming from the leadership in much of the middle east.
Comment by paul — August 7, 2007 @ 10:13 am
Quick FYI: I know Wikipedia isn’t quite the best compendium of knowledge being edited by tons of people all of the time, but here’s a quick
Wikipedia entry regarding Iran’s President comments.
Putting the Israel-Palestine situation aside for a moment, and keeping in mind that a lot of Islamic governments are (in my opinion) highly suppressive of human rights, it’s not fair to condemn so harshly someone for a mis-translation of a speech. The guy’s got many things to be criticized for; don’t get carried away on a figure of speech.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:54 amit’s kind of silly for you to rely on one narrow misinterpretation of a statement of by a man who doesn’t even have the power to order the iranian army to make one threatening move.
Comment by lonesomerobot — August 7, 2007 @ 10:53 am
Heh. What a coinci-dink.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:56 amI sure I’m not the only one, but I think we must be under new management. Many of my posts either don’t make it or get posted briefly, then disappear. Hopefully, it’s a mechanical problem.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:01 amWhy would I want Tancredo to retract? The more the Republicans are willing to state their beliefs in public in plain language, the more the American people and World can understand how radical and destructive those beliefs are.
Why did bush/cheney lie about the reasons for occupying Iraq? Because they knew honesty would allow people to understand their real, venal agenda.
More honesty and transparency from the party of hatred, intolerance, racism and endless war. Let’s get the debate focused on real positions instead of smokescreens.
mikey
August 7th, 2007 at 11:59 amThe conservative angle is a little bit of a stretch. The bombing scenario is already on the books in Washington as an option among many, its just worded a little differently. But as usual the media will use this issue against Tancredo to deter from his illegal immigration stance. But guess what, Iowa is not listening to the squawk and rant of the liberal media.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:21 pmThe guy’s got many things to be criticized for; don’t get carried away on a figure of speech.
Bin Laden declared war on the west in 1998. For the most part al Qaeda telegraphs its intentions. If we take them at their word, are we ‘getting carried away with a figure of speech’. Please. Get carried away.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:13 pmForget about e-mailing his blogger. Hopefully his constituents will vote him out of office. He’s been in Congress since 1998.
kickthemallout.com
August 7th, 2007 at 1:16 pmpaul, clearly you don’t understand the difference between al qaeda and iran.
bin laden is the leader of al qaeda, and is a rogue at that. if he threatens, declares war, or takes action, he answers to no one.
ahmadinejad can’t make any decision for iran without it being approved by both the supreme leader (ali khameini) and the ‘assembly of experts’ (a panel of clerics). he is subject to their judgement in all major decisions. also take into consideration that ahmadinejad’s popularity has continually fallen among the iranian people (because of fuel rationing, believe it or not). so we’re likely to see a different president of iran in 2009.
still, we have iran in a much more precarious position (surrounded by more than 20 military bases and 4 carrier groups in the straits of hormuz) than we have al qaeda. considering we are “supposed” to be going after bin laden and al qaeda, you’d think that after six years we’d have seen more progress.
of course i don’t think al qaeda were the objective of our afghani and iraqi adventures at all. clearly we’ve always been after iran. since 1979, in fact.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:36 pmI hope you’re right. with that logic though, couldn’t you dismiss the threat of GWB to the rest of the world?
August 7th, 2007 at 3:14 pmInstead of having Tancredo retract his statements I would instead urge him to continue to say ridiculous and “crazy” things. The more he speaks the sooner his candidacy will collapse.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:50 pmwhy do they wanna bomb our hollie cities ? do u know that u ll kill many christian too ? first palestine then chechenya then bosnia then afghanistan then iraq next iran WHY ARE U ATTACKING US ?
August 7th, 2007 at 5:33 pmMecca is the Islamic fundamentalists’ gateway to heaven and thus is a legit target for a nuclear strike in retailiation.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:31 pmComment by m12 — August 7, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Don’t be stupid.
August 8th, 2007 at 1:09 amwhy do they wanna bomb our hollie cities ? do u know that u ll kill many christian too ? first palestine then chechenya then bosnia then afghanistan then iraq next iran WHY ARE U ATTACKING US ?
Comment by babylebanon — August 7, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
I believe it’s an ideological struggle that goes back along time. It’s like two bucks, ramming their heads together in the forest over a doe. Eventually we will learn to just share the doe, but we’re not just going to step aside submissively while you have her all to yourself. You’re not willing to do that either.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:31 amThreatening to Nuke the Holy Cities of Islam? Now that is real terrorism, OR WHAT? I wonder how many more enemies for the US such irresponsible comments have created. And some persons actually belive this kind of a person is world leadership material?
August 8th, 2007 at 12:02 pmAnd some persons actually belive this kind of a person is world leadership material?
ask your friends in the middle east why they condone it.
August 8th, 2007 at 1:13 pmOh Tommy.
Villified in your own district yet spewing hate abroad.
Your constitutents . . . none of whom you know or hear . . . consider you a an ego-driven failure. If elections were held today, you’d be out of work.
Heck of a job.
Do us all a favor. Just shut up.
August 8th, 2007 at 1:49 pmYou have taken GOD as your enemy. Let the wrath follow you.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:46 amDoes anybody know how Sam Brownback reacted to these comments?
Did he chicken out and distance himself from Rep. Tom like the rest of them? Or did he stick to his ‘principles’?
TIA
August 9th, 2007 at 1:16 pmSound like he is out of mind, people of these stature must be cautious, inflamatory remarks dont serve any purpose just to get attention and that what he wants?
August 9th, 2007 at 4:42 pmMore ‘Loony Tunes’ trying to run for the office of US President. Does ‘God’ speak personally to his ‘loco guy’ or is he just as daft as the “Donkeys Backside” thats already in the White House. God forbid that these people show so much ignorance about other cultures and Faiths.
There was one great British WW2 Leader, Winston Churchill who stated that it is better to… “Jaw, Jaw, than War War!” The onlyw ay America can claime the ‘Moral High Ground’ is to do what is right. Bombing the ‘cr@p’ out of Middle Eastern countries is NO way to win ‘Hearts and Minds’, which Mr Bush and co keep telling us all.
Yes… “God Bless America”, and Britian and the other Coalition Forces…. But lets have Wiser Heads in office, instead of the people that are there at this time!
August 10th, 2007 at 8:19 pmRadical extremist muslim islamic terrorist exceed global welcome. Moderates will moderate with extreme measures if radical extreme terrorism continues unchecked. To infest earthly religious cites with wordly replies should be expected until moderation regains control. The thousand years reign will not be complete until evil is unleashed for a season to counteract zealot fakes. Choose wisely or loose wishfully. Millennium1000 is small compared to infinity.
August 11th, 2007 at 9:00 pm