Cordesman distances himself O’Hanlon/Pollack.
Cordesman distances himself O’Hanlon/Pollack.
Anthony Cordesman, a military expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, traveled to Iraq recently with Michael O’Hanlon and Ken Pollack. In a write-up of his impressions from the visit, Cordesman says he takes issue with the Brookings analysts:
It is scarcely surprising that my perceptions of a recent trip to Iraq are different from that of two of my traveling companions and those of several other recent think tank travelers to the country.
From my perspective, the US now has only uncertain, high risk options in Iraq. It cannot dictate Iraq’s future, only influence it, and this presents serious problems at a time when the Iraqi political process has failed to move forward in reaching either a new consensus or some form of peaceful coexistence. It is Iraqis that will shape Iraq’s ability or inability to rise above its current sectarian and ethnic conflicts, to redefine Iraq’s politics and methods of governance, establish some level of stability and security, and move towards a path of economic recovery and development.
Read Cordesman’s full report here.
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There’s nothing from the short Cordesman blurb that I necessarily disagree with. Of course, it is ultimately up to the Iraqis themselves.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:39 pmJust another defeatist moonbat willing to surrender to the terrists….
August 7th, 2007 at 8:45 pmWell, duh….not sh!t sherlock.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:47 pmCongress here in America took a vacation without first impeaching either Cheney or Bush — so what?
August 7th, 2007 at 8:49 pmThat is like saying that the US Army can surrender to the Crpyts. You can’t surrender to a gang. Al Qaida is nothing more than a gang. A gang you wet the bed over every night. How does it feel to be such a big fu*king blubbering scared sh!tless pu$$y?
August 7th, 2007 at 8:50 pmJust another defeatist moonbat willing to surrender to the terrists….
Comment by Kougar — August 7, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
I envy you people sometimes. It must be so nice to be able to simplify the world into good and evil, and make something as mind-numbingly complicated as the Iraq conflictapalooza into a simple win or loss. Is it as nice as I imagine to be a moron? I’m curious…
August 7th, 2007 at 8:53 pmCenter for Strategic and International Studies is a conservative think tank and these two jokers, Michael O’Hanlon and Ken Pollack, claiming to be liberal, get contradicted by it? Now something really stinks in Iraq as well as in Washington.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:54 pmLast time I checked, the Crpyts weren’t bringing down 100 story skyscrapers either.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:56 pmLast I checked, neither did al Qaida.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:02 pmLast time I checked, the Crpyts weren’t bringing down 100 story skyscrapers either.
Comment by Jake D. — August 7, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Neither were the Iraqis.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:03 pmHi Spudge_Boy, what do you think the “D” in Jake D. stands for?
August 7th, 2007 at 9:04 pmThe CSIS is predominately a conservative think tank; that should say something about O’Hanlon, Pollack and Cordesman. That Cordesman has broken with O’Hanlon also tells me that we are being fed a line of b.s. from the rightwingers and some, like Cordesman, can’t tolerate any more.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:05 pmThe ignoramus here who said Cordesman is a defeatist moonbat doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the wall.
Neither were the Iraqis.
Comment by shane — August 7, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
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But al-Qaida is now in Iraq.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:05 pmApparently US troop deaths are back up this month, 20 so far and counting. No doubt Gen. Patreaus will characterize this as “slow progress.”
August 7th, 2007 at 9:07 pmBut al-Qaida is now in Iraq.
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa — August 7, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
But not the same al-Qa’ida, and that’s the distinction.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:07 pmLast I checked, neither did al Qaida.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — August 7, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
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OBL inspired the Isl*m*K*ll*rs who attacked on S*pt. 10 + 1
August 7th, 2007 at 9:09 pmBut not the same al-Qa’ida, and that’s the distinction.
Comment by toasterhead — August 7, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
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Well, what are the tenets and beliefs held by this new group that goes by the name al-Qaida?
August 7th, 2007 at 9:10 pmThis report isn’t quite as negative as TP suggests. Even in the executive summary, Cordesman writes:
August 7th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
That’s right, hardie-har-har. BUSH planted the demolitions that brought down the WTC — good one — is your tin-foil hat on tight enough?
August 7th, 2007 at 9:11 pmWell, what are the tenets and beliefs held by this new group that goes by the name al-Qaida?
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa — August 7, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
Do your own research, PeePee.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:12 pmComment by gummitch — August 7, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
I would hardly characterize “luck” an effective military strategy.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:15 pmDo your own research, PeePee.
Comment by gummitch — August 7, 2007 @ 9:12 pm
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I have done some reading. It seems that they share many of the same general principles that OBL has laid down.
Death to America
There is no God but Allah
Death to everyone who isn’t a True Muslim (like the Westernized regimes in SA/Egypt)
Allah is beneficant and merciful
Death to Isr*el
etc. etc. etc.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:17 pm“Luck” was probably the wrong word choice — but hat’s just from the “Synopsis” — the Executive Summary makes an even stronger case for U.S. patience in Iraq.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:18 pmI would hardly characterize “luck†an effective military strategy.
Comment by Snowball — August 7, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
Just pointing out the writer’s actual viewpoint. To me, it sounds as if he’s trying really hard to find something good to say, but still, it’s not quite as negative as TP suggests.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:18 pmWe can’t use the word “Israel” here anymore?
August 7th, 2007 at 9:19 pmLuck, however, is not something that can be ignored, and there is a window of opportunity that could significantly improve the chances of US success in Iraq if the Iraqi government acts upon it. The US also now has a country team in Iraq that is far more capable than in the past, and which may be able to develop and implement the kind of cohesive plans for US action in Iraq that have been weak or lacking to date. If that team can come forward with solid plans for an integrated approach to a sustained US effort to deal with Iraq’s plans and risks, there would be a far stronger and more bipartisan case for strategic patience.
Comment by gummitch — August 7, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
Best Buzz Word genarator I have seen lately. Country team, capable, cohesive, solid plans, intergrated plans and risks, far stronger, more bipartisan and “drum roll with rim shot” strategic patience. Damn the “War on terror is almost over” we have buzzed worded them to death.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:20 pmWell, what are the tenets and beliefs held by this new group that goes by the name al-Qaida?
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa — August 7, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
Tanzim Qaidat Al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn, the group known colloquially as al-Qa’ida in Iraq, aims to expel U.S. forces from Iraq, establish an Islamic rule in Iraq, spread the conflict to neighboring states, and if they have some time, engage in battle with Israel. They do not have a goal of attacking the U.S. mainland.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:21 pmComment by gummitch — August 7, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
Apparently “luck,” “patience” and “slow progress” are the best the supporters of continued occupation can come up with these days.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:21 pmOf course it’s really about changing the goalpost and kicking the ball as far down the road as they can.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:22 pmThey do not have a goal of attacking the U.S. mainland.
Comment by toasterhead — August 7, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
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But… if they had the time, and the means………………
You know as well as I do what goals they have.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:24 pmGeorge W. Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney are looking down the barrel of a military fiasco that rivals Vietnam.
It is the largest military blunder-clusterfu*k in American history.
They are gonna try to peg the blame on someone else, but we know who’s responsible.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 9:25 pmYou know as well as I do what goals they have.
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa — August 7, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
I hope those plans do not include TOFU or any thing to do with DEFCON.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:28 pmBut… if they had the time, and the means………………
You know as well as I do what goals they have.
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa — August 7, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
Yeah, to get the United States out of Iraq, get us to stop meddling in the Middle East, and get us to stop supporting Israeli colonialism. Funny – I share these goals with them.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:30 pmOf course, it is ultimately up to the Iraqis themselves.
Comment by Jake D
Wish that was understood before we invaded their country.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:30 pmComment by Joefriday — August 7, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
I’m just sayin’
Let’s be honest, they hate us because of our freedoms, and they are secretly jealous.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:30 pmNice of Cordesman to wait until the shitstorm abates before he backs off of these two.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:31 pmLet’s be honest, they hate us because of our freedoms, and they are secretly jealous.
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa — August 7, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
They hate us because of our policies, and they don’t want to be anything like us.
Hmmmmm, maybe that’s why the “democracy” thing isn’t going so well. Ya think?
I don’t know why I waste my time with you.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:33 pmGSD, if you assume that Richard Cheney thinks he is the incarnate of John Adams and W is George washington, both the original Federalists it is a whole lot easier to comprehend. Tie that in with Stephen Colbert’s brilliant Rock, Scissors, paper, Dick Cheney , 4th branch skit, it boils down to defeating the tyrants. We should impeach the VP and return the Constitution back to the people. Plain and simple, revolutionary tactics to deal with these revolutionary era men.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:34 pm“Isr*eli colonialism.” – t-head
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God gave that land to the J*ws.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:34 pmSo when is the liberal MSM going to plaster this guy all over the TV and papers for a whole week with no one on to refute him? I’m waiting…….
August 7th, 2007 at 9:36 pmSince Chimpy likes to quote Bin Laden…If it was about “hating freedom” why hasn’t Switzerland been attacked?
The “hate us for a freedoms” is simply a foolish talking point to blow up American egos and has nothing to do with the truth.
But the Bush Cultists like to have their fragile egos kneaded so much and need to be protected by a Daddy figure so much.
If America started sucking it up and acting tough instead of running around like a pack of scared Girlscouts things will change.
Instead people with give away their actual freedoms in hopes of supposed security.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 9:37 pmGod gave that land to the J*ws.
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa
If you know him so well….can you ask if he can get me a nice 2 bedroom co-op in NYC? They’re really expensive.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:37 pmUS News and World Report has confirmed what I prognosticated years ago -
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070729/6china.africa.htm
I am not a racist, I am a futurist. Chinese are backing Arabs to eradicate African natives.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:39 pmFly-man,
Remember the Republican talking point:
“the Consitution is not a suicide pact.”
In other words, screw the Constitution, give us security.
The Republican talking point sounds much better in the original German language.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 9:40 pmCordesman’s views differ so much from O’Hanlon and Pollack is because he is dealing with reality while they are living in their fantasy world when it comes to the Iraq war. Cordesman is right there has been no political progress in Iraq which is the basis of Bush’s surge. With no political progress no one can claim that the surge is working. The surge has failed.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:41 pmGod gave Israel to the Jews? what’s that, the consolation prize? The sh*t end of the stick? God sure does diss his Chosen People.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:42 pmJason,
The Chinese are laughing and laughing and laughing and rolling in American cash while Bush and Cheney blow billions of dollars in Iraq and also run the US Army into a post-Vietnam state of disrepair.
The Bush Cheney war supporters are the ones setting America up for a disaster with their stupid Iraq war.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 9:42 pmO’Hanlon and Pollack’s op-ed tried to paint a rosy picture in stark contrast to the reality on the ground in Iraq. Cordesman is right there has been no political progress in Iraq which is the basis of Bush’s surge. With no political progress no one can claim that the surge is working. The surge has failed. Giving the surge 6 more months will change nothing. The time to get out of Iraq is here.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:44 pm#47, GSD,
Are you saying that the eradication of African natives is insignificant to you?
August 7th, 2007 at 9:45 pmGSD sez:
Whenever any piss-soaked troll throws up that pathetic talking point, just reply that they’re absolutely correct. The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Anyone who can’t hack the responsibilities of a free society is free to leave any time they wish.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:45 pmCordesman is right there has been no political progress in Iraq which is the basis of Bush’s surge.
Baaalooooneeeee. The surge was for military progress to allow the government some breathing room to get its political shat back on track.
Move the goalposts all you want, truth is, the generals on the ground have the best picture, not some lib geek posting on TP.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:49 pmAre you saying that the eradication of African natives is insignificant to you?
The African Queen COULD have a dual-meaning here…perhaps even a triple meaning.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:50 pm“Baaalooooneeeee. The surge was for military progress to allow the government some breathing room to get its political shat back on track.”
And since all the Sunnis have now withdrawn from the “coalition” government, the political shat has hit the fan.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:52 pm#52, Bishop,
Feel free to enumerate those meanings for us.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:53 pmFeel free to enumerate those meanings for us.
What meanings?
August 7th, 2007 at 9:55 pmGeorge W. Bush thinks it is OK to negotiate and give money and weapons to terrorists. Except the Bush/Rove language police refer to Sunni terrorists as “tribal sheihks” now.
Bush trolls support giving weapons to the same people who were killing Americans last week.
They are doing the same thing Oliver North did with the Iranians!
It’s gonna bite them on the ass.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 9:55 pmJason M. Hendler sez:
Feel equally free to refrain from such enumeration. If Jason isn’t bright enough to understand, there’s no obligation to spell it out for him.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:56 pmBush trolls support giving weapons to the same people who were killing Americans last week.
And what weapons would those be?
August 7th, 2007 at 9:57 pmBush trolls support giving weapons to the same people who were killing Americans last week.
Actually, they are different people. Ask toasterhead…
August 7th, 2007 at 9:58 pm#57, Trip,
Guess you realized that you really don’t have a point to make.
I, on the other hand, have demonstrated my ability to both see and state ugly truths that you don’t want to accept.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:01 pmBishop sez:
Do your own homework, Bishop.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:01 pmBishop, do some reading up.
Reports just indicated that almost 200,000 weapons went “missing” in Iraq.
Bush and his asshats laugh at US troop deaths.
Bush thinks it is fun to go on jogging stints with wounded soldiers.
He and his supporters don’t support troops, they use them as pawns for their shitty global chessboard.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 10:02 pm“I, on the other hand, have demonstrated my ability to both see and state ugly truths that you don’t want to accept.”
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Is this something do to with the link you provided? I see no “ugly truths” in the article you linked to.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:04 pmBush’s Iraq policy is like a watching a gambler chase his losses. He believes that just one more hand of cards or one more roll of the dice is gonna make everything better. Maybe if he doubles down, we’ll not only recover our losses, but somehow we’ll come out ahead. We all know that doesn’t work. There’s no rehab for politicians and generals who have rolled the dice too often and when dealing with human lives, there is no such thing as recovering your losses.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:05 pmReports just indicated that almost 200,000 weapons went “missing†in Iraq.
How do you know they are actually missing?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:06 pmHendler merely proves my point that China is becoming a global and economic powerhouse on Bush’s watch, while Bush spends 7 years trying to pacify a 8th rate military power like Afghanistan.
Bush’s policies are making America look weak and buffoonish.
Heckuva job.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 10:07 pmHe believes that just one more hand of cards or one more roll of the dice is gonna make everything better. Maybe if he doubles down,
What if they lay a hundo down on red but the ball hits 00?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:08 pmHow do you know they are actually missing?
Comment by Bishop
What does “unaccounted for” mean to you?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:08 pmMove the goalposts all you want, truth is, the generals on the ground have the best picture, not some lib geek posting on TP.
Comment by Mack Sweet from OH — August 7, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
You must be referring to these whack jobs:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Pentagon_generals_in_trouble_for_promoting_0807.html
August 7th, 2007 at 10:09 pmwhile Bush spends 7 years trying to pacify a 8th rate military power like Afghanistan.
Quite the feat, considering he has been in office for less than seven years.
Clown.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:10 pmYou must be referring to these whack jobs:
No, I was referring the generals on the ground…you know…in Iraq.
Damn you mofos are dumber than a box of rocks.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:12 pmWhat does “unaccounted for†mean to you?
Have you ever tasted a keylime pie that was more lemony than lime, if you have then you know what I mean.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:13 pmDamn you mofos are dumber than a box of rocks.
Comment by Mack Sweet from OH
Keep telling yourself that, 23%’er. Yeah, we’re the ones who are dumb.
Riiiight.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:14 pmOops. Off by a year.
Better than being wrong about WMDs.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 10:14 pmBush has turned some parts of the US military into shameless promoters of a political agenda.
That is impeachable in my books.
General Eisenhower would slap Chimpy and Dick around for messing with the US military.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 10:16 pmBarfly, I must defend the Bush Troll, they are 26% -ers!
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 10:17 pmKeep telling yourself that, 23%’er. Yeah, we’re the ones who are dumb.
Riiiight.
Nice to see you agree with me. You might have a chance yet.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:17 pm“Have you ever tasted a keylime pie that was more lemony than lime, if you have then you know what I mean.”
Comment by Bishop
That Happy Hour really doesn’t make you happy?
I learned that long ago.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:18 pmThat is impeachable in my books.
Is that a complete series of books or separate genres and themes?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:18 pmComment by GSD
Wait til next week. It’ll be back down again.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:19 pmDamn you mofos are dumber than a box of rocks.
Comment by Mack Sweet from OH — August 7, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Fact is, military personnel can’t speak their minds until they retire.
Kind of like this guy:
But I guess you just think you’re more qualified to speak about military strategy than he is.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:19 pmwhile Bush spends 7 years trying to pacify a 8th rate military power like Afghanistan.
Quite the feat, considering he has been in office for less than seven years.
Clown.
Comment by Gary — August 7, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
Ooooo, good one!
He got you GSD! You said “Bush spent seven years” and Bush hasn’t even been in office seven years! Ha ha! NAILED!
/sarcasm off
August 7th, 2007 at 10:19 pmThat Happy Hour really doesn’t make you happy?
Sometimes you need to measure your happiness not by drinks consumed but by how many pancakes you can eat in one sitting.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:19 pmIt is time for Bush to change course in Iraq. We can no longer win in Iraq militarily. There has been no political progress despite the fact that Bush said the surge was supposed to give Maliki enough breathing room to make political progress. The surge has failed. Giving it 6 more months won’t change anything. It is time to set a date and get all troops out of Iraq.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:20 pm#63, Barfly,
If you buy the August 6, 2006, edition of US News and World Report, and read the linked article and the few others listed around it, it mentions China’s support for the Arab government running Sudan:
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070729/6china.africab.htm
August 7th, 2007 at 10:20 pmBush is certainly getting some bounce from the surge:
Latest approval polls
Poll ———-dates—-app-dis-duh-diff
Newsweek 8/1-2/07 29 63 8 -34
NBC/Wall Street Journal 7/27-30/07 31 63 6 -32
Pew 7/25-29/07 29 61 10 -32
See, the undecideds have dropped from 10 to 6 to 8.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:22 pmwhat a bounce.
“Sometimes you need to measure your happiness not by drinks consumed but by how many pancakes you can eat in one sitting.”
Comment by Bishop
Spoken like a true IHOP denizen. Pass the Blueberry syrup…
August 7th, 2007 at 10:22 pmBut I guess you just think you’re more qualified to speak about military strategy than he is.
Nope, but I do believe the generals actually commanding the troops in Iraq have more knowledge of actual conditions than any of us. That would include Reid, who declared the surge a failure exactly two weeks after it started.
Funny thing that, considering that a few months earlier Reid said, “Listen to the generals”.
It would also include you, box.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:23 pmSpoken like a true IHOP denizen. Pass the Blueberry syrup…
I dont eat them myself, they give me the wind something awful.
I prefer wheat-dough cookies flavored with rose petals.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:24 pm“If you buy the August 6, 2006, edition of US News and World Report, and read the linked article and the few others listed around it, it mentions China’s support for the Arab government running Sudan:”
As we do business with dictators, and fundamentalist whackos.
Your point?
That sometimes we (and others) must dance with the Devil, in order to get what we need?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:26 pmThat sometimes we (and others) must dance with the Devil, in order to get what we need?
Dancing can be good exercise but also can give you shin-splints. I recommend a good linamint to ease the aches.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:29 pmGeneral Tso is going to march into America take over our chicken farms.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 10:30 pmComment by Bishop
But dancing with the Devil can result in serious injury; those hooves weren’t made for hoofin’ it…
August 7th, 2007 at 10:31 pmGeneral Tso is going to march into America take over our chicken farms.
That is a racist statement.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:32 pmComment by Mack Sweet from OH — August 7, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
So both US troop deaths and the deaths of Iraqi civilians are way up and the Iraqi government has just fallen apart. Are you so stupid as to believe anyone who tells you that is “slow progress”? Do you really know what commanders on the ground are thinking? They can’t speak for themselves. If you had even a fragment of a working brain instead of being an uncritical mouthbreathing follower, you’d understand that.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:34 pmGeneral Tso is going to march into America take over our chicken farms.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
Except for a hardy band of freedom-pullets, who take refuge in the wilds of norhtern Utah…
The Col. Sanders Brigade.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:35 pm#90, Barfly,
TP keeps deleting my post, so I will try it one last time.
You seem to accept that China is eradicting the Sudanese people, so that some form of communism survives in this world.
All I am saying, is that it was my vision, and not racism, that allowed me to correctly prognosticate Arabs, Chinese and Indians displacing the people of Africa.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:35 pmGeneral Tso is going to march into America take over our chicken farms.
That is a racist statement.
Comment by Bishop — August 7, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
It’s a chicken dish, dipshit.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:35 pmAll I am saying, is that it was my vision, and not racism, that allowed me to correctly prognosticate Arabs, Chinese and Indians displacing the people of Africa.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
I’m not seeing how the Chinese are “eradicating” Africans from the article you provided.
Perhaps you could make a clearer connection between China offering business partnerships with African businesses, to this genocide?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:41 pm#90, Barfly,
TP keeps deleting my post, so I will try it one last time.
You seem to accept that China is eradicting the Sudanese people, so that some form of communism survives in this world.
All I am saying, is that it was my vision, and not racism, that allowed me to correctly prognosticate Arabs, Chinese and Indians displacing the people of Africa.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 7, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Prognosticate or prestidigitate?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:42 pmIt’s a chicken dish, dipshit.
He said chicken “farm”, not dish.
He is a racist.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:42 pmComment by Bishop — August 7, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
Moron.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:43 pmGeneral Tso couldn’t fight worth a damn, but give the man a chicken….
August 7th, 2007 at 10:44 pmMoron.
If General Tso is a moron, how could he possibly handle an invasion?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:47 pmWell, if it’s a “Farm” (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) that’s a whole different form of racial insult.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:48 pm#99, Barfly,
Not going to do your work for you, simply read the handful of articles in that issue of US News and World Report, and you will see that I am right.
China is providing weapons, money and support in the UN that allows the Arabs in Khartoum to continue their genocide unabated. Enjoy your communism.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:48 pmEnjoy your communism.
Lenin certainly did, until they made him live in that glass box.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:49 pmSpoken like a real man. BTW, do you have any Grey Poupon?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:50 pmEnjoy your communism.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
It should go well with the facism I experience here in America, on a daily basis.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI think you’re thinking about Marcel Marceau.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:51 pmI like mustard.
Do you think that Coke can cause dispepsia?
August 7th, 2007 at 10:51 pmI think you’re thinking about Marcel Marceau.
I think not, though my knowledge of German astrologers is quite limited so I suppose I will have to defer to you.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:53 pmOh Oh. Bishop is getting “politically correct” and all weepy about a silly joke.
Funny stuff.
P.S. George W. Bush is killing more Iraqis than China is killing Sudanese.
Don’t let the truth bother ya at all.
P.S. The glorious surge is working! IF you don’t believe George W. Bush’s propagandists you aren’t American!
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 10:55 pmDick Cheney had a mime act in the 50’s. He was called Marcel Assh*ole.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 10:56 pmComment by GSD — August 7, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
Bush doesn’t kill Iraqis, Iraqis kill Iraqis.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:56 pmIF you don’t believe George W. Bush’s propagandists you aren’t American!
What if you do believe him but you are waiting in line at the American embassy to get a visa?
You are a racist and a chicken-hater.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:57 pmDick Cheney had a mime act in the 50’s. He was called Marcel Assh*ole.
I had a mime act too, but I got stuck in the invisible box and almost starved.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:59 pmI had a mime act too, but I got stuck in the invisible box and almost starved.
Comment by Bishop — August 7, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
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Careful… if you say that the box was invisible, people might think you are a racist.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:02 pmBush doesn’t kill Iraqis, Iraqis kill Iraqis.
Comment by Nicholas of Course — August 7, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
Most deaths in Iraq are due to attacks from jets, bombers, and helicopters. The only one using these is the USA.
And Mr. P., you are the one always cheering “KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!”
One in eight children die in Iraq before age of five. One in three Iraqis in need of emergency care. About one million EXTRA deaths since illegal invasion.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:03 pmI just want to right the wrongs between us. In essence it is true what they say about hurting the ones we love- in our time together that’s a statement we must both surrender to. I have regrets- but not of falling in love with you.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:04 pmI freely admit I am a racist, there is nothing better than pedaling down a mountainside with the peloton a distant memory.
Ride to live, live to ride I always say!
August 7th, 2007 at 11:05 pmOne in three Iraqis in need of emergency care
Sure but how many are due to complications of dispepsia?
August 7th, 2007 at 11:06 pmComment by Bishop — August 7, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
The Romans were probably speaking like this before their fall, too.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:13 pmBut in Latin.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:21 pmBut in Latin.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 7, 2007 @ 11:21 pm
And out their rear ends… don’t forget that, too.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:35 pmYou folks really need to stop masturbating every time a US soldier dies in Iraq.
The surge is working.
August 8th, 2007 at 2:23 am“Cordesman distances himself O’Hanlon/Pollack”
No he doesn’t. He merely builds off of their argument:
O’H & P say
Cordesman uses this premise as a starting point, and continues to say:
August 8th, 2007 at 2:38 am
You folks really need to stop masturbating every time a US soldier dies in Iraq.
Comment by muckdog — August 8, 2007 @ 2:23 am
Question for you, muckdog.
Suppose one of your mother’s friends just lost her son in Iraq, and this woman and your mother were crying over the news. Would you make
that comment to your mother and her friend?
It is a yes or no question.
August 8th, 2007 at 2:52 amEvery time a soldier dies in Iraq the pain never goes away for the parents of that soldier. He or she leaves behind a family and friends. He leaves behind goodbyes that were never said. He leaves behind a life in America he never got to return to. No one can fathom the pain of of birthdays, Christmas and Thanks giving without him. We owe it to the troops to get the policy right in Iraq. The surge has failed. Bush owes it to the troops to get them out of the civil war and home.
August 8th, 2007 at 3:09 am