Joe Klein: Bloggers spew ‘anger, vitriol and disdain.’
Joe Klein: Bloggers spew ‘anger, vitriol and disdain.’
On MSNBC’s Morning Joe, guest host Willie Geist asked Time’s Joe Klein why presidential candidates were “pandering to the blogosphere” this past weekend at YearlyKos. “There’s an awful lot of anger, vitriol and disdain that spews out of some of these blogs,” responded Klein. “And you don’t want to have Kos or one of those other guys ripping you apart everyday.” Watch it:
Klein, who has previously written a column titled “Beware the Bloggers’ Bile,” was conspicuously absent at the “Say It to Our Faces” party hosted by Time.com during YearlyKos.
Transcript:
WILLIE GEIST: Very interesting about how, sort of, the blogosphere — the Democratic candidates, at least, sort of pandering to the blogosphere and losing touch with groups like the Democratic Leadership Council. Why are Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Barack Obama, why do they feel the need to answer to the Daily Kos, where they spent the weekend?JOE KLEIN: Well, two M’s: money and megaphones. You know, the blogosphere has demonstrated a real ability to raise money for favored candidates, so there’s that. And, second of all, they have a very powerful voice in the Democratic party right now. And you don’t want to get on their bad side because they’ll chew you up. There’s an awful lot of anger, vitriol and disdain that spews out of some of these blogs, not all of them. And you don’t want to have Kos or one of these guys ripping you apart everyday.
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August 7th, 2007 at 1:09 pmBloggers spew ‘anger, vitriol and disdain.’…
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Well, they sure do here at TP….and HuffPo, and Kos are no better.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:13 pmHello pot. Meet kettle.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:13 pmBloggers spew ‘anger, vitriol and disdain.’…
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Well, they sure do here at TP….and HuffPo, and Kos are no better.
Comment by Ringo — August 7, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Would be a lot less hate without the rightwingers posting for example Mr. P and his numerous alts.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:15 pmklein is essentially right, but his choice of words is terrible. the candidates do, indeed, want the support of the blogs, but not in fear of the blogs’ retaliation for not wanting their support. and it’s a mutual affair, as the blogs want the politicians to listen to they, the people.
klein is unhinged on this issue….
August 7th, 2007 at 1:17 pmI suppose they learned that from the multi-million dollar smear campaigns they have been subjected to over the years JoeK.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:18 pmso, klein, let me get this straight: the kos is angry because, what, the politicians don’t listen to the people? golly, that pesky little kos. what sort of community wants their politicians to listen to them? so hostile, those net-roots peeps…..
August 7th, 2007 at 1:19 pmHe must be reading Driftglass.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:22 pmWhat an idiot. Perhaps if the MSM, Time magazine included, actually reported the news, people wouldn’t turn to blogs for information.
Here’s a deal for you Mr. Klein: you write a piece in Time about the high crimes and misdemeanors of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al, and I’ll get a subscription to Time and never read TP again.
Idiot!
August 7th, 2007 at 1:23 pmexactly–it’s KKKarl Rove’s “plants” that drive that, usually initiating with a racial slur or some previously debunked right wing talking point.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:23 pmMost of the time what I see from the posts here and other “left” sites are THINKING PEOPLE expressing their dismay and horror at what the Republicans have done to this country in six short years.
I for one am glad to have this outlet, as it helps to reassure me that I’m not crazy–that these things are actually happening–and that I am not alone in my dismay and horror.
Well, they sure do here at TP….and HuffPo, and Kos are no better.
Comment by Ringo
And at Wizbang, FreeRepublic and that paste eater Goldstein you see no better.
Lets not forget the freeper Anthrax hoaxer, a Katherine Harris devotee, Castagana, whom mailed powder to over a dozen people.
Talk about your loonies.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:23 pmYou know, Joe…maybe there’s a good reason for all that anger and disdain? Mmm?
What’s your solution, listen to the ’sensible’ and ’serious’ DLC again and ensure further defeat for the Democrats?
The reason why the blogs are angry is people the PEOPLE, at least those who track and know what’s going on, are angry. They see what’s happening in their name ‘for’ them, and they scream foul.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:24 pmI really don’t see much in the way of “anger, vitriol, and disdain” on TP articles, although I do see it in some of the comments — usually from posters who aren’t articulate enough to make an intelligent article, so they have to resort to name-calling.
The blogosphere is a great way for ordinary people to be heard, and I’m pleased that candidates recognize this (it would please me more if they saw more than dollar signs, though).
August 7th, 2007 at 1:25 pm#12. Exactly! Anyone who’s NOT angry is either a traitor or is ignorant of what’s happening to our country.
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August 7th, 2007 at 1:30 pmWhat a whiney little bedwetter. He knows it’s over for him and ruling pundits. Long live Greenwald!
August 7th, 2007 at 1:30 pmSo, the blogs represent the opinions of the majority of Americans and they are being “pandered” to…what does Joe “I get it wrong and lie to act like I didn’t” Klein have to say about the parade of Reublican candidates going on bended knee – bowing to the radical, extremeist cleric Pat Robertson?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:31 pmOverthrow the punditocracy!
August 7th, 2007 at 1:31 pmI’m definitely angry. In fact, I’m extremely pissed off. But I don’t see why Mr. Klein is alarmed by the fact that there are a lot of pissed off people out there. And I definitely don’t know why he’s surprised! Shows how out of touch he is.
Has he ever written an article called “Beware the right wing fringe lunatics” or “Beware the influence of AEI or AIPAC” or “Beware the influence of lobbyists”?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:34 pmThe blogosphere is a great way for ordinary people to be heard
Comment by missmolly — August 7, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
That is, of course, if you can actually get your comment/rebutal/idea to post without it mysteriously disappearing through the filter.
Shame TP
August 7th, 2007 at 1:36 pmShame
Joe is just scared that Glenn G. is constantly pointing out what he is…. a sorry excuse for a ‘jounalist’ who’s spent too much time in the beltway spitting out his lightweight opinions and pretending to do political analysis.
He’s just an easy target because he’s so thin-skinned. There are so many others just like him, a bunch of beltway pundit robots.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:37 pm#10
“THINKING PEOPLE”
That’s a very subjective statement.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:39 pmLet’s vote – biggest whiner, Joe Klein or DRxJ?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:39 pmRight.
You can tell what a brilliant analyst Joke Line is by the amount of rancor spewing across the InterTubes directed at Joe Biden, who didn’t go to the YearlyKos conference.
The past two days it’s been nothing but Biden, Biden, Biden.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:39 pm#23 above…
That was snark, in case you didn’t notice.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:41 pmThese right wing whiners are starting to sound like the average spam e-mail…nothing but vague, wide-sweeping, unverifiable claims and second or third hand accounts all closed off with “send this to 10 people if you want good luck!”
The world would be better off if people were simply not given air time if they have nothing of value to say. If Klein or Scarborough have a beef with somethign somebody said, and they want to rebut, then go ahead. Provide your own logical and fact-based rebuttal. But since they don’t have one, and only risk having more of their lying pointed out, they have to smear an entire group with vague speaking points.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:41 pmJoe DeKlein sounds worried
August 7th, 2007 at 1:46 pmPoor Joe Klein and his fellow pundits – they were once revered as experts and courted by pols – until those rotten ol’ bloggers started publishing the facts – and now they have been shown as the hollow men (and women) they are. No wonder Klein, Broder, et al. hate the blogs. What is incomprehensible is that anyone still pays them to chatter.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:46 pmIf you can’t stand the heat stay out of the blogs!
August 7th, 2007 at 1:46 pmJoe Klein is the kind to twit that gives media a bad name. Unfortunately he has a whole lot of company. These pinheaded little twits like Klein fear the Internet with all their tiny little souls. They know, somewhere deep inside where once dwelled honesty and integrity, that their day is ending. Not soon enough. Only a small minority will sit quietly and listen at the feet of the pundits. And most of those have the I.Q. of a little box. Just like Mr. Klein and Willie Geist.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:46 pmJust love it when MSM has a hissy fit when the ‘general public’ actually voices their thoughts on issues that pertain to them! What a nerve.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:47 pmAnd what does Faux “news” spew? And he forgot to mention Ann Coulter and Michael Savage. What about them, Joe?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:48 pmWell gimme a /snark or something next time dude
August 7th, 2007 at 1:49 pmBut … I thought Klein wanted the Blogosphere to help him to sink Hillary? Maybe Joe wants full credit.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:50 pm_________
Feminists spew ‘anger, vitriol and disdain.’
August 7th, 2007 at 1:50 pm_________
#21
August 7th, 2007 at 1:51 pmsubjective, I suppose. I’m just glad that other folks are waking up and seeing things the way I do…..
Well, they sure do here at TP….and HuffPo, and Kos are no better.
Comment by Ringo
Right? And you know what else these so-called ‘bloggers’ do? They use the names of fallen Soldiers as their nametags and then USE that name to slander the dead Soldier, his family, and anyone else they care to.
Oh wait…..those are the trolls…my bad.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:54 pmYes we all know the right wingers are such paragons of sugary sweetness.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:55 pmSince when did “anger” get a bad name, anyway? Hell, yes, we’re angry. Angry at the incompetent totalitarian Republics, angry at the Washington press corps and the MSM for their laziness and sycophancy, and angry at American citizens who care more about their right to drive an SUV than about the consequences to their children.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:58 pmjoke line whines that blogs spew vitriol right after the MSNBC media whore asserts candidates are pandering to bloggers.
i stopped watching cable news years ago. newspapers, NPR, some magazines and blogs are where i go to get info these days. i wouldnt even know joe klein was still alive if he didnt get ridiculed so regularly for his mendacious idiocy and ignorance by blogs.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:58 pmSince when did “anger†get a bad name, anyway? Hell, yes, we’re angry. Angry at the incompetent totalitarian Republics, angry at the Washington press corps and the MSM for their laziness and sycophancy, and angry at American citizens who care more about their right to drive an SUV than about the consequences to their children.
Comment by gummitch — August 7, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
Thank you thank you thank you!!!! It’s as though it’s become unseemly or somehow inappropriate these days to admit to anger!
August 7th, 2007 at 2:01 pmAnd for those who are angry with TP for weirdness in commenting, especially today:
Firefox nulls out the required fields at every attempt to post, something that only started today.
Internet Explorer doesn’t null out fields, but it also displays the site very badly.
Opera 9.22 handles everything well, and so far has not nulled out the fields.
No idea how Safari or other Mac OS browsers are working, but it feels like TP did an update of their blogging software and it was poorly tested prior to release.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:01 pmOh yeah, Joe? Well, Primary Colors was a crappy movie. There, I said it!
August 7th, 2007 at 2:02 pmgummitch,
August 7th, 2007 at 2:04 pmI was stuck behind a huge behemoth of a vehicle yesterday (a huge, black cadillac escalade) and couldn’t help but notice his Giuliani for prez sticker and when I finally got around him I gave him a BIG thumbs down. I guess he thinks that Giuliani will find more oil to steal for his monster SUV.
Comment by gummitch
It’s not that anger is so bad it’s where that anger leads. They try to pretend as if they’re enforcing some decorum and that it has to do with civility. Civility was dead when Republicans took over the media and the government.
Anger is a gift! Anger leads to action, and establishment enablers and codifiers work to maintain the oh so profitable status quo. They can’t be having people actually act upon their anger and push back.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:05 pm“There’s an awful lot of anger, vitriol and disdain that spews out…”
Just a slight bit of projection by Klein here methinks.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:07 pmComment by margaret — August 7, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
I’m fortunate to live somewhere with a level of consciousness about transportation that’s a little higher than in much of the country. Still lots of SUVs, giant pickups, etc., but every day it seems I see more hybrids and definitely tons more bikes. Public transit use is very high and there is a general awareness that things just cannot go on the way they have been.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:12 pmComment by werenotgonnatakeit — August 7, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
Excellent post! That rings true. People are getting pissed off enough to actually speak up and hopefully ACT! And, perhaps, that worries the people who want us all to sit still and behave.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:14 pmHow ironic I bet he said it with hatred in his heart.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:14 pmHey. Let’s just stop watching this cable infotainment, huh?
Joe is correct when he refers to anger – as in angry Americans.
Americans are mad as hell and blogs provide a means to express that anger. After all, Americans cannot get close enough on foot to express our anger, so we do it from afar.
Joe should be covering the topic of why bloggers are angry, then he will be doing a service to the nation.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:16 pmThe media elites are pampered, powdered, lazy, unprepared and unserious. Klein is a perfect example. He’s got great healthcare and makes a lot of money. He doesn’t care about the things most people are concerned with and he is not embarassed easily. Large corporations have ruined our public discourse and broken our “fourth estate.” It’s time to fix things.
#1: public financing of all federal elections so each election will not be a $400 billion windfall for networks.
#2: reinstate a legal “firewall” between news departments and the corporate boards who write their paychecks and give them their bonuses.
#3: New ownership rules and regulations for media.
#4: Finance NPR and Public television with public money, not corporate grants.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:18 pmhmm – do you think they are scared $hitless about the blogs actually being a way to get around the “controlled” news and media? I’m no expert, but I think the blogosphere is a real threat to the planned control these people had in mind, and they can’t control the blogs, and so far, have been unable to control the internet. Just look at bill o’reilly and how freaked out he is about DailiyKos.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:20 pmA man who was so wrong about the war has no right to disparage my views when I had to endure fight after fight and reduce many of my friends to tears in telling them what they were believing was lies.
F Klein
August 7th, 2007 at 2:22 pm53. They are MOST DEFINITELY scared
August 7th, 2007 at 2:25 pmComment by gummitch — August 7, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Thank you for that good news!
I recently drove from CT to Boston and I felt like I was surrounded by SUVs the entire drive! It seemed like we were the only people in a car for miles! We couldn’t see anything on the road beyond the huge rear-end of the SUV in front of us (the roads were packed) and I feared for my life (and I am not normally the fearful type).
I was really discouraged to see how many people do not seem to care that their vehicles suck up so much resources.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:26 pmI’m a blog-grrrrrrr.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI’m disdainfully hurling a vitriolic phlegm ball right back atcha, Joe.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:35 pmBuy, hey, I’m not angry!
I’m just happily enjoying the right to speak my mind…..
I was really discouraged to see how many people do not seem to care that their vehicles suck up so much resources.
Comment by margaret — August 7, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
When I was driving in the UK in April I was astounded to note how few big vehicles were on the road. I counted three pickup trucks in two weeks! Lots of commercial vehicles, of course, but they tended to be small lorries. Almost no SUVs, lots of sedans.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:38 pmIf Joe Klein and others didn’t want to get ripped by bloggers, they should take their jobs far more seriously, work harder and get it right. But that’s so much harder than mailing it in and then whining about being picked on by the Big Bad Kos.
AF
August 7th, 2007 at 2:39 pmI’m disdainfully hurling a vitriolic phlegm ball right back atcha, Joe.
Buy, hey, I’m not angry!
I’m just happily enjoying the right to speak my mind…..
Comment by Raven — August 7, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
Hey, Raven. I thought I sensed a delicious smoky essence. :)
August 7th, 2007 at 2:42 pm“There’s an awful lot of anger, vitriol and disdain that spews out of some of these blogs,â€
You know Mr. Klein, you are right. The bloggers to have a lot of anger, vitriol and disdain for this government. And it was well earned. What would Mr. Klein have us do, roll over and play dead while our government is crumbling around our heads.
Joe Klein is a coward and an idiot. The fact is that he is afraid of bloggers because we can call him on his lies and misrepresentation of situations. He doesn’t like to be challenged.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:43 pmoops.. I meant a disdain for this Administration, not government.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:44 pm#36
I am just glad that you recognized that stating that people on the left are “thinking people” is a purely subjective statement and only an opinion.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:44 pmAnd there is plenty to be angry about!!!!
August 7th, 2007 at 2:54 pmI am just glad that you recognized that stating that people on the left are “thinking people†is a purely subjective statement and only an opinion.
Comment by Tracy — August 7, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
More a theory than an opinion, since it “has been repeatedly confirmed by observation and experimentation”.
Much like the theory that conservatives and Republicans are incapable of governing efficiently, unless they’re Austrian.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:56 pmI go to great lengths to be civil.
IRL, I am much, much angrier at losing my freedom.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:01 pmMuch like the theory that conservatives and Republicans are incapable of governing efficiently, unless they’re Austrian.
Comment by gummitch — August 7, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
Fantastic!
August 7th, 2007 at 3:03 pmTake a stroll over to Michele Malkin’s site if you want to see examples of anger, vitriol and disdain. Or, tune in to Billo’s program. You can get at least a weeks worth of anger, vitriol and disdain in one day on his site.
The right are such hypocrites. And don’t let Joe Klein fool you. He would like people to think that he is a “reasoned liberal”, but that is not true. Joe Klein is an idiot.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:04 pmI’m roasted right about now to a fine perfection, Zooey…………..;)
August 7th, 2007 at 3:17 pmThe progressive/liberal blogs are being defined by the right wing according to their own twisted view of the world and those who don’t think as they do.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:23 pmIn the rightwing world of blogs, if you don’t post in lockstep, they ban you from posting.
In liberal blogs all people are allowed to post (to a certain extent) and not unlike any political discourse in any pub or coffeeshop, tempers flare and harsh words are spoken.
It is the rightwing world of the big mouths, the big names are seeing that they are being challenged not so much with “hatred and vitriol” but with facts and truth. It frightens them.
Some journalists realize that they can no longer be a stenographer, but they have to actually investigate the news.
People always fear something new, particularly if it changes their own routine.
These pundits and so called journalists had this field of writing and television talking and brainwashing the public for a long time without any competition or even response from audience.
Now technology have changed the game..and these pundits are unhappy about it; they are unhappy that information they have no control of is reaching the public; they are unhappy that they are reduced in size and their jobs are dimishing and also they are unhappy that they have been criticed; something they do not like.
Pundits they do not like to share this field with anybody…but the game has changed.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:30 pmYou hear the attack on blogging from Novak to O’Reilly to Rush Limbaugh and now Joe Klein…
I am not surprised..
I spell klein: H-A-C-K
August 7th, 2007 at 3:36 pmor the alternative spelling: I-R-R-E-L-E-V-A-N-T
Meet Joe Klein, beltway loser.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:37 pmI’m roasted right about now to a fine perfection, Zooey…………..;)
Comment by Raven — August 7, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Oh, watch out! Zooey may ask if she can nibble!
: )
Sorry for being off-thread lately. Why do these so-called experts/pundits/whatever think that they know better than we do? Do we need them to tell us when it’s raining or else we wouldn’t have noticed?!
August 7th, 2007 at 3:41 pmJoe Klein and the fact-checkers, expressed in Simpsons dialogue:
Marge: Homer, those were very thoughtful presents, but you have to tell me where you got the money from.
Homer: All right, Marge, I’ll tell you, but first you have to promise you will not get mad.
Marge: I promise I get mad, because I always do when you make me promise I won’t.
Homer: All right, if you must know. Lisa and I have been gambling on pro football.
Marge: Homer!!
Homer: You promised you wouldn’t get mad!
August 7th, 2007 at 3:45 pmFrom my experience, the most angry, abusive, and “vitriolic” blogging I see comes form the right.
All anyone has to do is read some of the replies my videos have received over on YouTube (search on “BI30“.)
August 7th, 2007 at 3:59 pmYou cats prove JK correct on this thread and just about every other.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmAt least he is acknowledging that it is a force to be dealt with. In case he didn’t notice, it is also a force in the Republican party right now also.
It is something they can’t control. That really is the point. Isn’t it?
August 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pmIn his world, if someone spews ‘anger, vitriol and disdain’ they take the chance of being fired.
The whole “control thing” again.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:19 pmThe TV commentators prefer that media over the Internet because they can’t hear people screaming at their TVs.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:19 pmJoe Klein can’t admit what a huge positive influence liberal bloggers have become. When O’Reilly attacked Kos he was unwittingly helping to promote the Kos Convention. These people hate liberals so much that they are willing to portray us as extreme whereas it is they who are extreme in every way. Liberal bloggers are doing what the MSM has failed to do. They point out the truth, and hold Bush accountable to the American people. These wonderful bloggers have only grown in their numbers and will continue to do so because they have been on the right side of every political debate in this country.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:32 pmI’m roasted right about now to a fine perfection, Zooey…………..;)
Comment by Raven — August 7, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Oh, watch out! Zooey may ask if she can nibble!
: )
Comment by margaret — August 7, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
Heh. You know me too well. :)
August 7th, 2007 at 6:55 pmIt’s my inexpert opinion that Joe Klein needs a serious tweezer intervention.
I won’t insult drag queens by comparing Klein’s eyebrows to theirs.
August 7th, 2007 at 6:58 pmJust as the Famers wanted it: The freedom to express “anger, vitriol and disdain.” — Thomas Jefferson is giggling in his grave.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:00 pm(quiver)
August 7th, 2007 at 7:48 pm#65
“More a theory than an opinion, since it “has been repeatedly confirmed by observation and experimentationâ€.”
Observed and confirmed by other liberals to their own self service therefore not really a true theory….just an opinion.
“Much like the theory that conservatives and Republicans are incapable of governing efficiently, unless they’re Austrian.”
If your criteria for efficient government is based on liberal ideology then yes, but since this ideology has not proven to make government work efficiently, then it’s just another opinion.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:50 pmAnon: “Just as the Famers wanted it: The freedom to express “anger, vitriol and disdain.†— Thomas Jefferson is giggling in his grave.”
I’m not sure what you think is clever about this post. The Framers were very angry men. They had tremendous disdain for King George and his royalist supporters. Their publications were filled with vitriol expressed towards these tories. So, I’m not sure Jefferson would have been “giggling” about anger. I think he would have approved.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:50 pmTracy: “If your criteria for efficient government is based on liberal ideology then yes, but since this ideology has not proven to make government work efficiently, then it’s just another opinion.”
Tracy, since Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980, American government has been largely dominated by a modern libertarian conservative ethic. The last liberal “age” ended in the late 70’s with Carter. At that time, we were the world’s biggest creditor nation and our middle class was at its strongest point in history. The last 27 years have transformed us into the world’s biggest debtor nation and eviscerated our middle class which was built by liberal New Deal policies.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:55 pmAnother good comment from the Ret. Col. JR
August 7th, 2007 at 9:15 pmThere’s an awful lot of anger, vitriol and disdain that spews out of some of these blogs, not all of them.
Isn’t this self-righteous twit the same arrogant jerk who used to spew an awful lot of anger, vitriol and disdain from his column in Newsweek towards anyone who dared credit him as the author of “Primary Colors”?
Isn’t this the same self-serving pseudo-journalist who lied about his authorship of the book until his lies were exposed?
Like most of the authoritarian personality types out there, what Klein really fears the most is that the people he once berated with impunity can now fight back.
Joe Klein. What a coward. And a hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 12:09 amJust as the Famers wanted it: The freedom to express “anger, vitriol and disdain.†— Thomas Jefferson is giggling in his grave.
Comment by Anon — August 7, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
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Yes, the blogosphere is a brick wall that the Left can punch whenever they feel the desire to do so.
Just as TJ would have wanted it, for certainly, Jefferson would not want to hear this nonsense himself!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 2:54 amThat was a shitty video. Guess you had to be there. All that white noise in the beginning was utterly useless. Do I need surround sound speakers to discern what was actually said?
Could have been enlightening. Could have been profound. Wouldn’t know with all that party atmosphere shit going on in the background.
Blogosphere’s great! Now break out the shitty party videos!
Party!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:09 amMaybe the past seven years might have had something to do with that “…hate and vitriol”? I, for one, am plenty PO’d. That righteous anger is nothing to be ashamed of. And as the poster above noted, “Pot, meet Kettle”.
August 8th, 2007 at 3:47 pmStick around for the “closure”…
August 8th, 2007 at 8:26 pm#88
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 7, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
“Tracy, since Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980, American government has been largely dominated by a modern libertarian conservative ethic.”
Up untill the 1994 conservative congress was voted in the U.S. government has ben dominated by the democrats and liberals. The fact the congress couldn’t control spending during the 1980s, when the liberal democrats were in control of spending, ithe reason that the U.S. is now the largest debtor nation, not to mention the Republican congress doing the same since Bush has been president. We got a decent control on spending when the Gingrich balance budget amendment passed (Clinton was forced to sign it).
“At that time, we were the world’s biggest creditor nation and our middle class was at its strongest point in history”
The U.S. economy was in the crapper during the Carter administration with double digit inflation and high energy prices.
“and eviscerated our middle class which was built by liberal New Deal policies.”
New Deal policies like social security and other entitlement programs is the reason this country is in debt! Government spending is the problem. There hasn’t been one year where government spending has not INCREASED over the previous year.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:59 pm