A day after Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai declared the Taliban “defeated” and “hiding,” “a group of 75 Taliban militants tried to overrun a U.S.-led coalition base in southern Afghanistan on Tuesday, a rare frontal attack that left more than 20 militants dead, the coalition said in a statement.”
Its good to know Afghanistan signed up for the ICC , otherwise it would be the Iraq model of diplomacy ( ha)
August 7th, 2007 at 3:46 pmGood Bring em on so we can mow them down.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:47 pmGood news is that the Taliban were beaten back.
Bad news is that there is still enough Taliban around to do this.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:49 pmYup.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pmwell darwin was right – the stupid get weeded out
August 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pm75 against an entire base??
Sounds like they were probing defenses. Could be that something big is in the works.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:51 pmI want to tell you about our first night together. Yes, of course you were there. I’m sure you remember it. But I want to share with you the part that you weren’t privy to. The part I found satisfying and symbolic.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:51 pmI think attacks like this show how desperate the taliban is becoming. Looks like our strategies are starting to work in Afghanistan and the towel heads are becoming more and more desperate.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pmDo you chop the beef before or after you cook it?
August 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pmY’know… The articles on this site have gotten immensely weak in the recent past. I haven’t seen anything on here in months that isn’t a story regurgitated from Crooks and Liars, CNN, Slate, or TPM.
Do some actual thinking for yourself, TP
August 7th, 2007 at 3:53 pmeither that or they thought the base was underpopulated sarge. either way a frontal assault on fortified positions isn’t usually the best career move. The article I read suggested they attacked on 3 sides, instead of a concentrated attack on one.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:53 pmGood Bring em on so we can mow them down.
Comment by gitMORules — August 7, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
I want to tell you about our first night together. Yes, of course you were there. I’m sure you remember it. But I want to share with you the part that you weren’t privy to. The part I found satisfying and symbolic.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — August 7, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
What’s your trip Marcus…. you posts seem to just be random crap to clog up the thread.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:54 pmMARION:
I believe I have the necessary papers. Is there a ladies room?
SALESMAN:
In the building.
He shows her the way. As they are walking, he notices that she turns to look back at the patrolman across the street.
SALESMAN:
(indicating the ladies room) Over there.
Marion goes in. At the sink, she takes her automobile certificates from her purse, then removes the cash envelope and counts out seven hundred dollars. She returns to the waiting salesman, money and papers in hand.
SALESMAN:
(nervously) Ah–I think you’d better take it for a trial spin. Don’t want any bad word of mouth about California Charlie.
MARION:
I’d really rather not. Can’t we just settle this?
SALESMAN:
August 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmI uh, might as well be perfectly honest with you, ma’am. It’s not that I don’t trust you, but uh–
Do you be troll, or human?
August 7th, 2007 at 3:57 pmWhat’s your trip Marcus…. you posts seem to just be random crap to clog up the thread.
Comment by DigDug — August 7, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
Unlike the trolls, at least the nonsense that Marcus posts is entertaining.
Keep it up, Marcus!
August 7th, 2007 at 3:58 pm75 against an entire base??
Sounds like they were probing defenses. Could be that something big is in the works.
Comment by SGT Higgins
Excellent observation, SGT Higgins.
re: something big in the works -
Have you seen those commercials about having an “emergency plan” with your family?
I’m not saying that the gvt. is planning anything, but I do think it odd that they didn’t put out such ads until now.
Any thoughts?
August 7th, 2007 at 3:59 pmI think attacks like this show how desperate the taliban is becoming. Looks like our strategies are starting to work in Afghanistan and the towel heads are becoming more and more desperate.
Comment by gitMORules
From what vast military experience do you gather this from, Mr.Pee?
ahh, I see where the problem with your statement started, it was at “I think”.
A full frontal attack is not desperate.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pmThat was a bold attack (possibly stupid as well).
The Mujahadeen bankrupted the Soviet Union. Osama is a very clever criminal – he pays attention to history.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pmWhat’s your trip Marcus…. you posts seem to just be random crap to clog up the thread.
Comment by DigDug — August 7, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
August 7th, 2007 at 4:03 pm———–
Indeed.
The Pushtuns have joined the taliban thats 75 million against 50,000 Coalition troops
I hope the Coalition have seen the film ZULU
August 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pmit was an outpost, outpost anaconda. outposts are there to draw attacks actually so it did its job. now the tally know they’ll need more men to wipe them out. a probing attack for sure.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pmSounds like they were probing defenses. Could be that something big is in the works.
Comment by SGT Higgins
Yeah, thats what I think, too
August 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pmOr whoever lead that attack was sampling the heroin crop. hehe
For every Coalition death the Coalition would have to kill 1500 Taliban to even things up
Tell you what my monies on the Taliban
August 7th, 2007 at 4:05 pmif the brits had had nukes then it would have been the first ass kicking by atomic bomb.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:05 pmWhat’s your trip Marcus…. you posts seem to just be random crap to clog up the thread.
Comment by DigDug — August 7, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
It’s ironic. Marcus responds to non sequitor “responses” from the trolls with exaggerated non sequitor riffs that can be very amusing. It’s also succeeded in enraging the trolls, which is a bonus.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pmDumb Taliban. Didn’t know when the Soviets had defeated them and now they don’t know when the US has defeated them.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:07 pmAny thoughts?
Comment by trueblue — August 7, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
I think it couldn’t hurt to have a plan. :-{
August 7th, 2007 at 4:07 pmTaliban dont win wars in a couple weeks they chip away for years, thats their tactic
August 7th, 2007 at 4:08 pm“What’s your trip Marcus…. you posts seem to just be random crap to clog up the thread.
Comment by DigDug — August 7, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
It’s ironic. Marcus responds to non sequitor “responses†from the trolls with exaggerated non sequitor riffs that can be very amusing. It’s also succeeded in enraging the trolls, which is a bonus.
Comment by gummitch — August 7, 2007 @ 4:06 pm”
I see.
It’s still annoying though because it just adds more noise to the thread.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:11 pmSo, let me guess, you didn’t even wait until you were whipped. You just came right out and conceded that, indeed, “your name is Toby!”
August 7th, 2007 at 4:11 pmWow, I thought the Taliban were “no more” – Rummy said so….. everything Rummy said turned out to be true, right?
/sarcasm off
August 7th, 2007 at 4:12 pmZooey,
Like maybe I should get a passport?
August 7th, 2007 at 4:13 pmLike maybe I should get a passport?
Comment by trueblue — August 7, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
A good starting point. :)
August 7th, 2007 at 4:14 pmKangaroo: the other, other red meat.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:15 pmHmmm.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:15 pmI thought we were fighting the terrorists in Iraq, but they’re in Afghanistan too.
Who would’ve known that?
“Tell you what my monies on the Taliban
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 7, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
So, let me guess, you didn’t even wait until you were whipped. You just came right out and conceded that, indeed, “your name is Toby!â€
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa — August 7, 2007 @ 4:11 pm”
It’s important to evaluate whether we are in a win-able situation. Because if we’re not than we’re just thowing away american lives. That’s not supporting the troops.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:16 pmIt’s ironic. Marcus responds to non sequitor “responses†from the trolls with exaggerated non sequitor riffs that can be very amusing. It’s also succeeded in enraging the trolls, which is a bonus.
Comment by gummitch — August 7, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
My favorites are when he expresses his undying love for the troll. :-D
August 7th, 2007 at 4:16 pmSo, let me guess, you didn’t even wait until you were whipped. You just came right out and conceded that, indeed, “your name is Toby!â€
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa
My, how incredibly racist of you.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:17 pmThe only way to win the Afghan war is to change the mindset of the Taliban , by any other means than fighting with them
Bomb Afghanistan with , radios , TVs , nintendos, Baby Einstein DVDs, Schools and education , health care, better housing , cars , solar panels
Make them appreiciate the wonders of the modern world
then they will leave their caves and huts and their Neanthertal Attitude towards women and the modern world for a new and happier way of life
August 7th, 2007 at 4:17 pm“Hmmm.
I thought we were fighting the terrorists in Iraq,
Comment by dim wit — August 7, 2007 @ 4:15 pm”
No, we’re just training them there.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:17 pmI see.
It’s still annoying though because it just adds more noise to the thread.
Comment by DigDug — August 7, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
My preference is for the one-liners, admittedly. Keep an eye out for helpful recipes, though.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:18 pmSo, let me guess, you didn’t even wait until you were whipped. You just came right out and conceded that, indeed, “your name is Toby!â€
Comment by Nicholas of Cusa — August 7, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Well not everyone is as tough as you, sitting there flailing at that keyboard 24/7. Your brave battle cry is an inspiration to all of the keyboard commandos. “Don’t surrender until they drag you out from under your bed!”
August 7th, 2007 at 4:21 pmhow the hell is 50,000 Coalition troops going to beat 75 million Pushtuns and Taliban
This I must see
The only way is to re-educate 75 million from the dark ages to the modern world
August 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmNo, we’re just training them there.
Comment by DigDug — August 7, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
And arming them too apparently.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmNo, we’re just training them there.
ha ha ha how very true that is
August 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pmI think attacks like this show how desperate the taliban is becoming. Looks like our strategies are starting to work in Afghanistan and the towel heads are becoming more and more desperate.
Comment by gitMORules
OUR!!!?
And what strategies have you implemented in this conflict Sir?
And SGT Higgins you are correct this was a dry run, that ended up getting men killed but hell they have an endless supply of them, I agree something bigger is coming.
Whass up Zooey and MA!!
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
A bond which NO troll can/will EVER break
When did Murdoch purchase TP?
August 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmTraining and arming them there so we don’t have to train and arm them here… yes that’s it
August 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmDeath by a million pin pricks.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pmHow is staging a direct attack on a fortified camp a sign of the guerrillas weakness? Are we leaving in a bizzaro world, because this is a sign of the opposite – the guerrillas growing strength?
The only way the war on terror ™ could have succeeded would be if the retards in charge concentrated on Afghanistan, and used the supporting world opinion to leverage it into $$$ into civic projects.
The majority of Afghanistan hate the Jihadis, and actively support us. The pushtun could be won over with civic projects, other hearts and minds and common sense.
Instead we invade Iraq in a blatant “lets steal their oil” plan. The whole world, and not just the moslems, see the invasion of Iraq for what it is (other than 30% really moronic Americans), and try to backpedal from supporting us (other than UK and Poland, which is getting derision, condescending and jeers from the USA for its efforts – no monetary or military help for Poland).
The moslems are all united in opposing the USA globally now (which doesnt prevent the Shia from hating the Sunni and vice versa).
We have lost the one chance to really be a world leader in the combatting of moslem extremism, we have lost the world opinion, we have lost both Afghanistan and Iraq.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pmGood to see you, Tired of Fighting. :)
August 7th, 2007 at 4:42 pmand the towel heads are becoming more and more desperate.
Comment by gitMORules
“… the towel heads…” Oh gosh… and racist too!
August 7th, 2007 at 4:44 pmTired of Fighting, Zooey
Good to see you both…..maybe this post won’t get me ‘nulled’. I have an answer to an earlier one that’s been deleted about 10, 15 times now.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:44 pmPlease, someone take the Stratego and Risk boards away from President Dick Cheney and his Secretary George W. Bush.
-GSD
August 7th, 2007 at 4:45 pmComment by SGT Higgins — August 7, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
Hi, Sarge. I haven’t been getting deleted today, but it was a problem yesterday. Maybe it’s just that I haven’t been around enough to notice. :)
August 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pmWell now, we got em just where we want em.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/31/newsid_2648000/2648951.stm
August 7th, 2007 at 4:47 pmHow is staging a direct attack on a fortified camp a sign of the guerrillas weakness? Are we leaving in a bizzaro world, because this is a sign of the opposite – the guerrillas growing strength?
Comment by timotheus
As well as a total lack of fear. I fear that MY fellow Brothers and Sisters-in-arms will be subject to more of these “spectacular” style attacks, especially those who are encamped in COP’s as opposed to those on a FOB.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
A bond which NO troll can/will EVER break
August 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pm49/ We have lost the one chance to really be a world leader in the combatting of moslem extremism, we have lost the world opinion, we have lost both Afghanistan and Iraq.
theres one way out to jail Bush and blame him and the neocons, then say sorry for the damge he caused
that way the world will forgive and forget
August 7th, 2007 at 4:52 pm“How is staging a direct attack on a fortified camp a sign of the guerrillas weakness? Are we leaving in a bizzaro world, because this is a sign of the opposite – the guerrillas growing strength?”
Its not weakness its a probing attack.
Now they know theyll need more men and guns to take a outpost.
Plan. Simple. Not a sign of weakness. Its a sign that they dont care a bit about sacrificing a dozen men or more just to gague the defenses of a local american outpost – time to watch our asses in afghanistan.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:53 pmWhass Up SGT H, Yea I was getting deleted last week responding to some trolls, no profanity, no violence, just straight talk and common sense, somebody didn’t like that so I assumed that when Rupurt Murdoch’s WSJ deal went thru it included TP as well.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
A bond which NO troll can/will EVER break
August 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pm49/ We have lost the one chance to really be a world leader in the combatting of moslem extremism, we have lost the world opinion, we have lost both Afghanistan and Iraq.
theres one way out – jail Bush and blame him and the neocons, then say sorry for the damage he caused
that way the world will forgive and forget BUT also understand how the attrocious mess worldwide he has created
August 7th, 2007 at 4:55 pmTHX Zooey, you also.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
A bond which NO troll can/will EVER break
August 7th, 2007 at 4:55 pmPlan. Simple. Not a sign of weakness. Its a sign that they dont care a bit about sacrificing a dozen men or more just to gague the defenses of a local american outpost – time to watch our asses in afghanistan.
Comment by bobh
Good call
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
A bond which NO troll can/will EVER break
August 7th, 2007 at 4:56 pmI wonder how the Bush administration will spin this — and what they will do.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:58 pmYear US Coal Total
+ 2007 65 65 130 ( Deaths so far in 6 Months)
+ 2006 98 93 191
+ 2005 99 31 130
+ 2004 52 6 58
+ 2003 48 9 57
+ 2002 48 20 68
+ 2001 12 0 12
Combatants
50,000 Coalition troops Versus 75 million Pushtuns and Taliban
expect Coalition deaths to go up to about 500 a year in a year or so, when they have better weapons and training
MY MONIES ON THE TALIBAN
only way to win is giving away , solar panels , windturbines , houses, cars ,
kettles, toasters, showers, toiletes , nintendos, X boxes
improve their way of life till they cant live the old way anymore
August 7th, 2007 at 5:03 pmI prefer my attacks medium rare
August 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmby fighting the taliban your playing the game they love ????
August 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmThe taliban are not in disguise like the Insurgents they wear Black Turbines all 75 Million of them
August 7th, 2007 at 5:07 pm#
I prefer my attacks medium rare
Comment by Cynicon Implant — August 7, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
And this is in some a way a meaningful comment?
August 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pmI wonder how the Bush administration will spin this — and what they will do.
Comment by Zooey
Bush will claim this proves we need another surge in Iraq. =P
August 7th, 2007 at 5:39 pmWayne,
That’s what I’m afraid of. More surges, attacks, mayhem and death.
If impeachment is truly off the table, then I wish for time to go very quickly, so these warmongers will be gone.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pmHamid Karzai is a former employee of US oil company Unocal , Bush appointed President of Afghan is busy visiting the White House. I also noticed that each year Afghanistan has a record making potty fields to sell cocaine. Now that’s a good thing for drug pushers like Gonzales’s sister Teresa Gonzales. Yes Teresa a career drug pusher is doing great business. Karzai let his home and went to America. He did good by working for Unocal and meeting the loser George W. Bush. Yes and Cheney remembered him when the plan to get the rights of Afghan oil. Yes Hamid got the top job when the Bush Administration needed a puppet as President. He continues to do as he’s told and his first act as Afghan President was to sign oil rights over to Halliburton. George W. Bush the worse businessman in the history of business and who failed at every business his Father gave him looked to Hamid to do the job.
August 7th, 2007 at 6:11 pmMost Americans and the media choose to use the Libby lost of memory defense as the Taliban were guest of then Governor George W. Bush and Bush made sure they were given a tour of Washington.
Yes Bush and his good friends the Taliban even made use the money kept coming in with the large fields of potties grown for cocaine. But it’s much easier to forget that information and keep believing the lies told by the White House.
Now I heard from a soldier is Afghan it’s cheaper to buy cocaine then cigarettes. I guess Bush knew what business to invest in that would bring him the biggest profit. Cheney chose oil, Bush chose cocaine.
p is nowhere near ton qwerty keyboard man.
August 7th, 2007 at 6:15 pmWith all the killing we’re doing of Al Qaeda in Iraq, and the Taliban in Afghanistan, how come no pictures have slipped out and been posted on the web?
August 7th, 2007 at 6:19 pmAt times in Nam, 2x’s to be exact , we’d had to airlift a dozer in, to dig a hole and bury Link the Chink, or Luke the Gook, after their assaults, pretty well planned out, but fatal in the long run!
Show me the dead! Show me the dead! I want pictures of bodies stacked ten high! Heck we must of killed the No. 2 man in Iraq, 100 times!
This isn’t a knock on our troops by any means, but we’ve been lied too for over 5 years! I want proof!
A grouchy, pissed off, 60 year old Marine Grunt!
Let’s hope those moronic Taliban terrorists launch more of these attacks where one third of them get sent to their 72 virgins. They’re making our job alot easier when they stick their heads up, so we can shoot them off, rather than hiding amongst innocent women and children.
August 7th, 2007 at 6:28 pmPEE WEE you want pictures
heres some
http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqwarpix.html#IRAQWARPIX
August 7th, 2007 at 6:31 pmThe Taliban are warriors. Frontal attacks on the US Military are stupid…but courageous. Let’s hope they keep throwing caution to the wind, and relying on Allah to protect them. That way they are sure to lose.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:08 pmUnfortunately, they are learning from the Quagmire in Iraq how to conduct Asymetric warfare. IED’s and Suicide Bombings… much more worrisome for our troops.
They’re making our job alot easier when they stick their heads up, so we can shoot them off, rather than hiding amongst innocent women and children.
Comment by OxyCon — August 7, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
“our” job? Are you posting from Afghanistan? Didn’t think so. and don’t worry, Bush will continue slaughtering innocent women and children, taliban or not. Nobody loves death more than Our Little Sociopath, the Deserter-In-Chief.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:01 pmA day after Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai declared the Taliban “defeated†and “hiding,†[...]
It seems Mr. Karzai took a page out of Cheney’s book.
Oops!
And no, Bush supporters, I don’t care what your Dear (mis)Leader through his Ministry of Truth has told you. A bold attack like this one does not mean the Taliban are weak. Stupid, maybe. Weak? I don’t think so.
August 8th, 2007 at 12:24 am