During a debate on MSNBC’s Hardball this evening, retired Air Force Lt. Colonel Robert “Buzz” Patterson, a right-wing radio host, gratuitously attacked Iraq war veteran Jon Soltz, the chairman of VoteVets.org, exclaiming “I am so happy you’re not serving in Iraq right now, stabbing your fellow men and women in uniform like you do back in the states.”
Patterson claimed that Soltz didn’t know what he was talking about because he “didn’t get the memo” that “we’re fighting al Qaeda in Iraq.” “You know what, I don’t need the memo because I was in Iraq,” responded Soltz. “You read the newspaper, I was in Iraq. That’s the difference between you and I.”
Patterson muttered back that he had “been to Iraq too,” but Soltz laughed at his claim. “Are you talking about your rah-rah-sis-kum-bah cheerleader tours that the White House took you on or are you talking about as a soldier who took the country?” Watch it:
The fact that “Buzz” Patterson would accuse a political opponent such as Soltz of betraying his fellow Americans should come as no surprise. In a May 2007 interview with National Review Online, Patterson accused “Democrat politicians, big media, academia, popular culture, and nongovernmental organizations” of forming “a Fifth Column” that is “facilitating defeat against Islamo-fascism.”
Additionally, Patterson’s only experience in Iraq was part of a dog-and-pony show tour of Iraq. In 2005, Patterson, along with four other conservative talk show hosts, traveled to Iraq on a “truth tour” to tell “the good news that the old-line liberal news media won’t tell you about.” That visit was shepherded by the Office of Media Outreach, a taxpayer-funded publicity arm of the Department of Defense.
Patterson has never been interested in debating the merits of redeployment; instead, he repeatedly falls back on accusing Bush critics of treason. And yet he’s given a high-profile platform to spout his over-the-top rhetoric.
Transcript:
SOLTZ: Let me tell you something. You weren’t in Kosovo when I was in Kosovo under Bill Clinton, we had body armor on the ground, we have armored Humvees on the ground.
PATTERSON: I was in Bosnia, John! I was in Bosnia!
MATTHEWS: OK, I want to do this clearly. Let’s pretend this is a court room and we need facts. John, you believe that Hillary Clinton is a credible national defense expert. You believe she is the strongest candidate of the Democrats running to defend the country, including continuing the campaign in Iraq.
SOLTZ: I think that all the Democrats are stronger than the Republicans, because the Republicans right now have opposed the increase of the size of our military for the last seven years. It is absolutely ridiculous.
PATTERSON: That is so incorrect, Soltz.
SOLTZ: They have the dedication to super duper defense systems in the skies that have alienated our allies and the Democrats have a position that we will take the fight to Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. I was in Kosovo when we haduparmored Humvees. Why didn’t we have the unarmored equipment in. Kosovo that we do not have in Iraq? It is ridiculous. Bill Clinton was a better commander-in-chief than George Bush.
MATTHEWS: John, nobody’s getting anything here. Let me ask you, Buzz Patterson, this is a question. Based upon all that you know about the Clintons, including the former President, six months into office, how many American troops will remain in Iraq. We have a 160,000 troops in Iraq; will she yank them all out?
PATTERN: She will yank about half out, which will be a debacle. It’ll be a nightmare, and Jon, I am so happy that you are not serving in Iraq right now, stabbing your fellow men and women in uniform -
MATTHEWS: Alright, alright. Jon Soltz, six months into a Clinton presidency, how many troops will we see in Iraq?
SOLTZ: You ‘re going to see an offensive against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan; you’ll probably see a redistribution of troops to take the fight to fight the enemy that attacked us on 9/11.
MATTHEWS: You believe though – you both agree that she’ll cut the number of troops dramatically in Iraq?
SOLTZ: Absolutely.
MATTHEWS: You say that too, Buzz?
PATTERSON: I agree with that, I think we’ll be out of there in about 12 months.
SOLTZ: We need to take the fight to the people who attacked this country on 9/11, the people of Senator Clinton’s state – .
PATTERSON: Hey Jon, you didn’t get the memo, buddy: we’re fighting Iraq – Al Qaeda in Iraq.
SOLTZ: You know what, I don’t need the memo, because was in Iraq. You read the newspaper -
PATTERSON: Jon, I’ve been to Iraq too.
SOLTZ: Yeah, are you talking about the rah-rah-sis-koom-bah cheerleader tours the White House takes you on?
PATTERSON: Are you still in the Reserves? Are you getting a Department of Defense pension — a Department of Defense paycheck?
SOLTZ: I’m a private citizen right now, chairman of VoteVets.org and an Iraq War veteran.
Buzz is a bi*ch…
…who needs to go back to Iraq…
…permanently…
August 8th, 2007 at 7:57 pmJust another republican coward.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:00 pmmsnbc welcomes a man on to smear the reputation of a soldier who served his country in iraq and who is telling the truth. msnbc should be ashamed.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:01 pmPeople like the right-wing talk show hosts who incite people just to keep their ratings up are guilty of the deaths caused by this war. There are consequences to speech, and I support freedom of speech. However, when you have a forum as wide as these people have, then they must accept the collateral damage that they cause.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:03 pmSoltz doesn’t know what he is talking about!!! He probably didn’t get the memo that we’re fighting al Qaeda in Iraq!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:04 pmSoltz gave wingnut Patterson a buzz cut with good ass whuppin !
August 8th, 2007 at 8:05 pmComment by Gregory of Nazianzus #5
…still copulating your dead mother’s corpse I see…
August 8th, 2007 at 8:06 pmWill they televise the back alley meeting between these two? I would love to see Buzz flattened. He can’t even talk he is so full of shite. It will be a debaakle….er…I mean debacle. we’re fighting Iraq….er…I mean we’re fighting al Queda. The dude is unhinged.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:06 pmHey! I didn’t get that memo either!
Probably woulda used it in the john anyway.
We’re fighting Iraqi insurgents and a few thousand foreign fighters at most.
The General in Diyala province said he could count the number of ffs that his units had engaged on one hand..
talking points, getcha talking points! Can’t be a parrot withoutcha talking points!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:08 pmYet another example of your tax dollars at work. Why doesn’t the administration just drop the pretence and coordinate all their efforts under the Department of Truth? At least that way their’d be some snippet of honesty in their ceaseless babble. The only thing that’s keeping me going is the sincere hope that in less that 16 months Anybody else will be President. Unless, of course, the false-flag terrorist attack that I dread really happens and the current administration is, however reluctantly, forced to extend itself indefinatly. I wonder if the Supreme Court would care to step in, in that case.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:09 pmImpeach Bush, Cheney and Gonzales and Save the Constitution!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:12 pmGO SOLTZ, GO!!!!! VIETNAM VETERANS AGAINST THE WAR SUPPORTS YOU!
Robert “Buzz†Patterson
Growing up, ‘Buzz’ was a nickname reserved for idiots who drink or drug their gray matter into oblivion.
Has anything changed?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:12 pmWhy does the Left hate the troops?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:13 pmSoltz doesn’t know what he is talking about!!! He probably didn’t get the memo that we’re fighting al Qaeda in Iraq!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
Guess you didn’t get the memo, the Army needs you to fight the “War of Your Generation”
Coward!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:13 pmWhy does the Left hate the troops?
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus
Why do you think they do?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:14 pmWhy does the Left hate the troops?
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
This is a meaningless comment. There is no position stated, no facts to rebutt. Don’t take the bait. You cannot win an argument over this comment because it doesn’t make sense. Don’t try.
DON’T FEED THIS TROLL!!! DON’T FEED THIS TROLL!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:17 pmI would like to see a list of MSM pundits that are not journalisticly bankrupt. Does such a list exist? Anyone? Paul Krugman is one, but we only seem to hear from and about neocon or Murdoch backed clones. A neocon enabler list is easy to compile.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:17 pmDer Dolchstoss…
August 8th, 2007 at 8:17 pmDON’T FEED THIS TROLL!!! DON’T FEED THIS TROLL!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 8, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
Hear, hear!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:19 pmComment by Gregory of Nazianzus #5
…still copulating your dead mother’s corpse I see…
Comment by big papa — August 8, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
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Hey!! Good for you!!!
You should change your handle to Father Big Papa!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:21 pm“The fact that “Buzz†Patterson would accuse a political opponent such as Soltz of betraying his fellow Americans should come as no surprise.”
Nor should any of us be surprised when they start attacking us of betrayal. The US just lost a war. It is their fault. Now they need to shift the blame.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:21 pm#10 Comment by leporello — August 8, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
… the Department of Truth? At least that way their’d be some snippet of honesty in their ceaseless babble.
We have a war Tzar. We need a Truth Tzar! I nominate Bill O’Liely.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:23 pmDON’T FEED THIS TROLL!!! DON’T FEED THIS TROLL!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 8, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
Amen. He’s getting so fat, he can’t get out of the basement.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:24 pmSay… How’dja know it was me, Zo-Zo?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:27 pm#13 Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Why does the Left hate the troops?
Oh look, folks, we have a wet behind the ears “troll in training!”
Pure neocon talking point. Right out of the “troll training manual” handed out in the troll locker room at the West Hollywood Gym for Men. Nothing of substance here folks, move right along and ignore its blathering.
Gotta admit, though, it entertaining. A stand up comic in training.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:29 pmAmen. He’s getting so fat, he can’t get out of the basement.
Comment by Zooey — August 8, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
He keeps poppin’ de buttons offin his momma’s best dresses too!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:30 pmHe keeps poppin’ de buttons offin his momma’s best dresses too!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 8, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
And there’s no bathroom in that basement, so just imagine…..
August 8th, 2007 at 8:32 pmMerlin,
I learned it from Michael Ledeen! Thanks for the recommendation!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:32 pmAre you kidding me. The Supreme Court is bought and paid for. They won’t do anything to stop it. In fact, I will bet money that they approve it.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:33 pmOn topic: If anyone is stabbing the troops in the back, it’s Patterson. What an assh*le.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:33 pmGreg the Nazi; Some of the left are/were the troops. WTF is your excuse for not becoming one of the troops? Wait, do I hear chickens coming from your direction? Bwaaak, Bwwwwaaaaakkkk.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:34 pmHe just looks like a crazy old man.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:34 pmI learned it from Michael Ledeen!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus
Who is this Michael Ledeen?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:34 pmThis isn’t aq new troll. It is the same crazy, low life piece of sh!t that has been here this whole time. The sane republicans have stopped trying to stand up for the administration. All that is left here is one dumb fu*k d!ck wad that gets his jollies spending all day long at a web site where nobody gives a fu*k about anything he says.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:35 pmWait, do I hear chickens coming from your direction? Bwaaak, Bwwwwaaaaakkkk.
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 8, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
Greg of Nazi is a winner of the Croix de Poulet-Mohet!
Wear it w/ pride, son. You’ve earned it!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:36 pmSUPPORT THE TROOPS!
ALL THE TROOPS!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:38 pmYea I just watched this live. It was crazy. This right wing thug started to try and shout down Soltz, like they always do, and boy was he surprised when he found that Soltz was just not in the mood to take it.
Soltz handed him back his ass in triplicate, and it was a very, very refreshing thing to see.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
I learned it from Michael Ledeen! Thanks for the recommendation!!
Ledeen? No way. He is doing everything undercover. Look again at the cover of your manual. Does it say Luntz or Rove? Thought so. Chainy’s name won’t appear either BTW, not that he isn’t the ideological father of all those troll and enabler talking points.
But listen, no need to thank me for teaching you, it won’t help you gain favor.
Psssst…By the way, stay out of the gym. If you want to see stars, go to Hollywood.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:43 pmIn fact, John Soltz just raised the bar for everyone on these shows calling themselves liberal or progressive. We’ve had enough Donna Brazilles and we need more Soltz-like pundits, ready to meet the right on their game, and beat them on it.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:43 pmSoltz handed him back his ass in triplicate, and it was a very, very refreshing thing to see.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 8, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
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Yeah right!!!
Notice how Soltz evaded the question about recieving a check from the DoD!!!
Soltz was backed into a corner!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:45 pmWait, do I hear chickens coming from your direction? Bwaaak, Bwwwwaaaaakkkk.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Uncle Ho lied in another thread about serving in the military so he could call others cowards.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:46 pmComment by Merlin — August 8, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
Got any more “must reads,” my fellow neocon?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:47 pmSoltz was backed into a corner!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus
What corner? That he gets a government check? Who cares? Do you? Does it change the points he made?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:47 pmUncle Ho lied in another thread about serving in the military so he could call others cowards.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
Curse you, Talking Dog. You’ve followed me here!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:47 pmComment by dlet — August 8, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
The point is, Bartles (a known sexist) is wrong.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:47 pmIn fact, John Soltz just raised the bar for everyone on these shows calling themselves liberal or progressive.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
He lowered it. He was a babbling fool, talking over the other guest. He needs to learn some manners.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:48 pmI remember watching Buzz Patterson on CSPAN during his Dereliction of Duty book tour and thinking to myself that this guy had some personal grudge against Bill Clinton. I am no Clinton lover but for whatever reason the Clintons sure seem to attract some people who appear to develop a very deep personal hatred against them. I know you are not supposed to do this but, good lord, you would think that the Clinton WH would have run some kind of political test on this guy since he was going to be with Clinton wherever he went. I can’t believe there weren’t another thousand Democratic leaning intel officers who could have been in charge of the “football” instead of this right wing tool.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:48 pmThe point is, Bartles (a known sexist) is wrong.
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus
Who is Bartles? Is he related to Bartlebee?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:49 pmOn topic: If anyone is stabbing the troops in the back, it’s Patterson. What an assh*le.
Comment by Zooey —
I would rate Petraeus and Bush at the top of that list.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:50 pmHe lowered it. He was a babbling fool, talking over the other guest. He needs to learn some manners.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
So if we ask you to leave forever, will you show us your manners?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:50 pmI am no Clinton lover but for whatever reason the Clintons sure seem to attract some people who appear to develop a very deep personal hatred against them.
Comment by warren tarrah
Liberals have brought hate and anger to an all new level.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:50 pmHe needs to learn some manners.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
And who better than a talking dog to teach us all about ediquette? Oops, he busy licking his own… , but he’ll be back, in just a moment.
Good fella… oh, such a good widdle fella…
August 8th, 2007 at 8:51 pmSo if we ask you to leave forever, will you show us your manners?
Comment by DittoHeads Suck
Who’s “us”?
This blog has mostly conservative commenters on it. Take off, dick breath.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:51 pmNotice how Soltz evaded the question about recieving a check from the DoD!!!
Soltz was backed into a corner!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
It is a RED HERRING. Whats that got to do with what he’s saying?
Its a Red Herring, tossed out by Bullsh$t Buzz because he got his clock cleaned. It certainly had nothing to do with what they were debating.
What exactly is the point? What exactly are you accusing him of?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:52 pmHe lowered it. He was a babbling fool, talking over the other guest. He needs to learn some manners. Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
Says the babbling animal with no manners… Is this one of those existential experiences where you’re really only seeing yourself through your bizarro lenses – cowardly dog?
Why again aren’t you in Iraq – or are you a coward like the rest of the GOP faithful?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:52 pmWho’s “us�
This blog has mostly conservative commenters on it. Take off, dick breath.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
BAHAHAHA, you aren’t a commenter, you’re a TROLL!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:53 pmI would rate Petraeus and Bush at the top of that list.
Comment by trueblue
Please don’t forget Gates. He may seem “nicer” than the rest but he is privy to a heck of a lot of information and yet defends the actions being taken. He is an enabler if there ever was one.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:53 pmI would rate Petraeus and Bush at the top of that list.
Comment by trueblue
Here’s a liberal trashing a soldier.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:53 pmPlease don’t feed the Dr Dog troll, he’s been sick on the carpet again!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:53 pmWhat exactly is the point? What exactly are you accusing him of?
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 8, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
He was stabbing the troops in the back, while still taking money from the DoD.
He is a Typical Hypocritical Lefty, now!
Buzz was 100% correct!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:54 pmOK, what has Doggie-boy been smoking?
His last couple of posts are absolutely outrageous.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:54 pmWhy again aren’t you in Iraq – or are you a coward like the rest of the GOP faithful?
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
56% of the military are Republican and only 12% are Dem.
Explains why you refuse to serve your country, coward.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:54 pmSoltz cleaned his clock, and when Buzz figured out that for once, he COULDN’T shout down his opponent, he started what you right wing pricks always turn to.
Personal attacks on the other guest.
A personal attack that FAILED miserably.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:54 pmHere’s a liberal trashing a soldier.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
You aren’t a liberal – but you do spend a lot of time trashing soldiers – like the rest of your chickenhawk swiftboaters.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:55 pmBAHAHAHA, you aren’t a commenter, you’re a TROLL!!!
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
And you’re a coward.
Find your nearest recruting center and join the military you little wimp.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:55 pmSo if we ask you to leave forever, will you show us your manners?
Comment by DittoHeads Suck
Who’s “us�
Comment by Dr. Dog
I second that DHS. Please leave Dr. Dog…if you really want to show us true manners.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:55 pmHe was stabbing the troops in the back, while still taking money from the DoD.
He is a Typical Hypocritical Lefty, now!
Buzz was 100% correct!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
Go to Iraq and serve coward – or STFU you stupid fat ass.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:55 pmAnd you’re a coward.
Find your nearest recruting center and join the military you little wimp.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Take your own advice – cowardly hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:56 pmYou aren’t a liberal – but you do spend a lot of time trashing soldiers – like the rest of your chickenhawk swiftboaters.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
Don’t worry. You weren’t being trashed. You’re too much of a coward to join the military.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:56 pmHi, Trueblue.
Slap down that leg-humpin’ hound!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:57 pmComment by GregoryIsAGargoyle — August 8, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:57 pmGo to Iraq and serve coward – or STFU you stupid fat ass.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
Hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:57 pmThis blog has mostly conservative commenters on it. Take off, dick breath.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
OMG!!! We ARE in Bizzaroworld!! No wonder the dog can talk!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:58 pmComment by Gregory of Nazianzus
Why aren’t you answering my questions? I have learning from michael? on how to properly post. You know…one of your buds. I am only asking questions. Do you think I am stupid or something?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:58 pmGo to Iraq and serve coward – or STFU you stupid fat ass.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle — August 8, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
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That’s the problem with you hypocritical Lefties.
Soltz is exploiting the fact that he served for political reasons, while at the same time using the UCMJ to silence his opposition in the military!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:58 pmFind your nearest recruting center and join the military you little wimp.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
This from the wuss who wet his pants at Wayne’s challenge on the Romney thread.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:59 pmSorry, Zooey.
I posted before I saw your post.
I guess this idiot troll has hijacked other threads whilst I’ve been gone.
I will not engage any further.
It’s actually a powerful feeling, reading the bile that they write and saying to the screen:
August 8th, 2007 at 8:59 pm“You are not worth my time. I will be above your filth.” and move on. You take all the power away from them and give it to yourself.
Soltz cleaned his clock
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Saying it makes it true?
All he did was talk at the same time as the other guest. Maybe this passes as discourse in your world, but to most other people it is rude.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:59 pmHypocrite.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
Yes you are. You say you support the war, but expect liberals to fight it for you. You’re a hypocrite, and a coward. Yet, you’re so stupid you think no one sees what a loser you are. You’re wrong.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:59 pmDr. Dog sez:
You’re the one who seems to be overflowing with support for Chimpy’s depraved war of imperialist aggression. How about you show the courage of your convictions (assuming you possess that level of courage and integrity), and follow your own advice?
August 8th, 2007 at 8:59 pmAll he did was talk at the same time as the other guest. Maybe this passes as discourse in your world, but to most other people it is rude.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
Says Rude Dog… You’re a rude cowardly little fu(ker.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:00 pmThis from the wuss who wet his pants at Wayne’s challenge on the Romney thread.
Comment by Zooey
Apparently Wayne peed his pants when I made him a counter offer. He cut and ran, just like most liberals want to do.
My fax machine is still on.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:00 pmFind your nearest recruting center and join the military you little wimp.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
This from the wuss who wet his pants at Wayne’s challenge on the Romney thread.
Comment by Zooey — August 8, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
Hi, Zo!!!
Good to see y’ today!!!!!!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:00 pm“Soltz is exploiting the fact that he served for political reasons, while at the same time using the UCMJ to silence his opposition in the military!”
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus
The Sgt. confessed he knew he was breaking regs.
Piss off, Missy P.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:00 pmIt’s actually a powerful feeling, reading the bile that they write and saying to the screen:
“You are not worth my time. I will be above your filth.†and move on. You take all the power away from them and give it to yourself.
Comment by trueblue — August 8, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
He’s been on here every time I’ve looked in today, and he’s a total idiot.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:00 pmThat’s the problem with you hypocritical Lefties.
Soltz is exploiting the fact that he served for political reasons, while at the same time using the UCMJ to silence his opposition in the military!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
The UCMJ is a code to avoid political exploitation – stop projecting what you republican cowards are doing on others. Loser hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:01 pmYou’re a rude cowardly little fu(ker.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle —
Hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:01 pmHi, Zo!!!
Good to see y’ today!!!!!!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
You’re about as welcome and nice to see as a herpes breakout.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:01 pmBuzz was 100% correct!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
Hmmm… strange. Dr Dog shows up on a thread, and Greg of Nazi shows up on a thread. Dr Dog starts insulting people, and Greg of Nazi starts insulting people. Dr Dog Dog starts licking his own …., and G of N starts licking his own …
Hey, you’re the same troll!!! You just keep changing names!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:01 pmAll he did was talk at the same time as the other guest. Maybe this passes as discourse in your world, but to most other people it is rude.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Listen again to who was asked the question and who talked over whom. Please come back with your answer.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:02 pmApparently Wayne peed his pants when I made him a counter offer. He cut and ran, just like most liberals want to do.
My fax machine is still on.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
Apparently you’re too cowardly to show up in person, either to meet Wayne or serve. Chickenhawk hypocrite. What’s wrong, you’re too fat, or too gay?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:02 pmHypocrite.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
You sure are…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:02 pmYou’re about as welcome and nice to see as a herpes breakout.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle — August 8, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
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How dare you say that about Zooey!!?!?!
She is my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:02 pmThis blog has mostly conservative commenters on it. Take off, dick breath.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Yawn, that all ya got? I think I heard that last in the 7th grade.
What a pathetic life you lead to hang out on a progressive site so you can act tough hiding behind your computer. Ain’t ya got no friends to go hang out with? Maybe go to church or something? Get a girlfriend?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:03 pmThe UCMJ is a code to avoid political exploitation – stop projecting what you republican cowards are doing on others. Loser hypocrite.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
His speech at the Kos convention did not give the inferrence of offical military sponsorship of his comments. He broke no codes.
You couldn’t possibly break UCMJ code, because you’re too much of a coward to serve in the military.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:03 pmMy fax machine is still on.
Comment by Dr. Dog
You have a fax machine? Is that right next to your rotary phone?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:03 pmHey, you’re the same troll!!! You just keep changing names!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 8, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
Pee just feeds off the really dumb trolls, and follows them around. It makes him feel powerful and worth something.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:03 pmHi, Trueblue.
Slap down that leg-humpin’ hound!
Comment by barfly
I had 2 hounds. (beagles) and I stop that humpin’ crap right away!
:)
Thanks for the pep talk.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:04 pmHow dare you say that about Zooey!!?!?!
She is my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
You don’t have friends – or even a girlfriend (how did you say you killed her?)
August 8th, 2007 at 9:04 pmApparently you’re too cowardly to show up in person, either to meet Wayne or serve. Chickenhawk hypocrite. What’s wrong, you’re too fat, or too gay?
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
He can always send me a fax. End this right now and fax it.
You are the hypocrite. You refuse to serve your country and then complain when others don’t.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:04 pmHe was stabbing the troops in the back, while still taking money from the DoD.
Comment by Gregory of NasalCongenstion — August 8, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
That idiotic assertation assumes that working to end an illegal occupation thats just getting our troops killed, and redirecting our efforts to focus on the people who actually attacked us, constitutes “stabbing the troops in the back”.
Which it doesn’t.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:05 pmHis speech at the Kos convention did not give the inferrence of offical military sponsorship of his comments. He broke no codes. Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Liar. Him speaking in uniform at a political event is a violation.
You couldn’t possibly break UCMJ code, because you’re too much of a coward to serve in the military. Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
I’m not the subject – idiot. You however keep saying you support the war, but are too cowardly to serve though. Hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:05 pmYou have a fax machine? Is that right next to your rotary phone?
Comment by dlet — August 8, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Heh. Wayne’s supposed to fax this cowardly puss his military record to PROVE that he served. Yeah, right…..
August 8th, 2007 at 9:05 pmYou don’t have friends – or even a girlfriend
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
Hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:05 pmHeh. Wayne’s supposed to fax this cowardly puss his military record to PROVE that he served. Yeah, right…..
Comment by Zooey
It’s a lot easier than meeting in person, which he will never do.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:06 pmDr. Dog sez:
Then why was he in uniform?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:07 pmHypocrite.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
Very self descriptive of you. Either sign up – or STFU…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:07 pmYou however keep saying you support the war, but are too cowardly to serve though. Hypocrite.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
You claim to be an American but are too cowardly to serve in the military. Hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:07 pmWhat’s wrong, you’re too fat, or too gay?
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
Most of the gays I’ve known would be really offended to be compared to a dog, that eats its own waste, ya know what I’m sayin”? :-P
August 8th, 2007 at 9:07 pmThen why was he in uniform?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
It wasn’t wash day. Nothing clean.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:08 pm#1 big papa:
Buzz is a bi*ch…
…who needs to go back to Iraq…
…permanently…
Yeah, without body armour and a brigade of heavily armed troops to cover him.
In fact, I was kind of thinking about that scene from “Stalag 17″, where they tie all the cans on Price and toss him out the door…..
Cheers,
August 8th, 2007 at 9:08 pmIt’s a lot easier than meeting in person, which he will never do.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Dumb Dog, he challenged you to a fight. HE would show up for it, but you want a fax. Wuss.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:08 pmVery self descriptive of you. Either sign up – or STFU…
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
You sign up or STFU.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:09 pmWayne’s supposed to fax this cowardly puss his military record to PROVE that he served. Yeah, right…..
Comment by Zooey
Wayne doesn’t need to prove this pustule anything.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:09 pmHis speech at the Kos convention did not give the inferrence of offical military sponsorship of his comments. He broke no codes.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Even the soldier admits he broke the code.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:09 pmDumb Dog, he challenged you to a fight. HE would show up for it, but you want a fax. Wuss.
Comment by Zooey
I just want to see the records. He could end this right now by sending a fax. No fight is even necessary. And he wouldn’t show up anyway.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:09 pmSoltz cleaned his clock
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Saying it makes it true?
Comment by Dr. CornDog — August 8, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
No.
Watching it did.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:10 pmComment by Zooey — August 8, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Zo-Zo wants to see a fight!
It makes her hot!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:10 pmEven the soldier admits he broke the code.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
He’s mistaken. He broke no codes. He is an honest American. And the liberals here want to put him in jail.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:10 pmHow many times can I post in an hour? 55?
De-railing posts is soooooo much fun!!!
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Yet you exhibit the shining example of the intent of this thread. How the GOP cowardly refuses to serve, while attacking liberals that have…
Sorry, you derailed nothing. You re-enforced why the GOP is unfit to lead, and too cowardly to serve when things get tough.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:10 pmWayne doesn’t need to prove this pustule anything.
Comment by dlet — August 8, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
Oh hell no! Absolutely not.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:11 pmI didn’t get the memo on “Buzz” Patterson’s combat experience. And as for a “Fifth Column” (the definition of that term obviously escapes that clown) that would entail a group which destroyed the American economy, government and military….Oh, yeah, sounds just like the Busheviks.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:11 pmComment by GregoryIsAGargoyle — August 8, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
56% of the military is Republican
less than 16% is liberal
August 8th, 2007 at 9:11 pmI just want to see the records. He could end this right now by sending a fax. No fight is even necessary. And he wouldn’t show up anyway.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
This isn’t about Wayne, it’s about you. Coward.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:12 pmHe’s mistaken. He broke no codes. He is an honest American. And the liberals here want to put him in jail.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
Sorry, that’s just not true. Try as you may, there are these nasty little things called “facts”.
Why do “facts” hate America so?
Hey everybody, the Freedom Fries are on me!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:12 pmHow the GOP cowardly refuses to serve, while attacking liberals that have…
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle —
LMAO! When did you serve, you gutless coward?
You were responding to a name hijacking, you idiot!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:12 pmHe’s mistaken. He broke no codes. He is an honest American. And the liberals here want to put him in jail.Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
When you serve in the military you can speak to military codes. You’re wrong – but in your ignorance you’ll argue anything to derail a thread.
You might know you’re wrong, but as a sad, pathetic excuse of a partisan worm we doubt you’d care. That kind of unthinking loyalty is why the US finds you so unfit to lead, and unfit as a political party.
You and wingnuts like Mr. P are the best friends of the left. You’re useful idiots!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:12 pmDr. Dog sez:
Nice attempt at dodging, but you don’t get off that easily.
You do realize that appearing in uniform at a political event is a violation of the UCMJ, right?
Perhaps you don’t….that wouldn’t surprise me…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:12 pm56% of the military is Republican
less than 16% is liberal
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
Not true. That’s a very out of date number – you must have gotten that from Out Of Date Dog – canine of propaganda foolish misquotes!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:13 pmless than 16% is liberal
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
I’ll bet you don’t even take off that Croix de Poulet-Mohet even when you take a shower.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:13 pmThis isn’t about Wayne, it’s about you. Coward.
Comment by Zooey
When I get the fax, I’ll post the results here for everybody to see, if Wayne authorizes it.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:13 pmYou claim to be an American but are too cowardly to serve in the military. Hypocrite.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Now, this is the most boneheaded post since doggystyle’s assertion that most troops in Iraq are republicans.
As someone who’s paid taxes for over forty years, I don’t have to serve, to complain about cowards who refuse to put their asses on the line for a war they advocate. I’ve endured decades of military waste and fraud, and still support the troops – with my tax dollars.
So F.U., Fido.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:13 pmLMAO! When did you serve, you gutless coward?
You were responding to a name hijacking, you idiot!
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:12 pm
Says the cowardly hypocrite that refuses to serve in a war he supports… Hypocrite…
Nice hate – canine…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:14 pmIt wasn’t wash day. Nothing clean.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Someone knows a lot of info. Do you do his laundry? The dishes? Are you his bit*h, Mr. Dog?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:14 pmNot true. That’s a very out of date number
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
It’s a very accurate number. And it is going to go even higher when the Dems nominate their anti-war candidates for president next year.
Coward, ass breath.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:14 pmWhen I get the fax, I’ll post the results here for everybody to see, if Wayne authorizes it. Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
When you serve, your opinion will count for something useful other than a birdcage lining.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:14 pmWayne offered to meet you in any city, any where in the US next weekend.
And you WUSSED OUT.
W.U.S.S.E.D O.U.T
August 8th, 2007 at 9:14 pmWUSS
August 8th, 2007 at 9:14 pmIt’s a very accurate number. And it is going to go even higher when the Dems nominate their anti-war candidates for president next year.
Coward, ass breath.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
It was an accurate number – in a different year.
It’s not accurate now – where those of us that aren’t Chickenhawks live…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:15 pmLMAO! When did you serve, you gutless coward?
Comment by Dr. Dog —————————
When the F- did YOU serve, you self righteous POS?
Didn’t your mother teach you anything?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:15 pmWayne offered to meet you in any city, any where in the US next weekend.
And you WUSSED OUT.
W.U.S.S.E.D O.U.T
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 8, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
Republican and coward go hand in hand…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:16 pmI don’t have to serve, to complain about cowards who refuse to put their asses on the line for a war they advocate.
Comment by barfly
If you’ve never put on the uniform yourself, you are a coward.
56% of the soldiers in Iraq are Republican, and only 12% are Dem.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:16 pmWhen I get the fax, I’ll post the results here for everybody to see, if Wayne authorizes it.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
We don’t need to see Wayne’s proof.
Piss off.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:16 pmBLOG TROLLS:
……..are like the pile of _dog shit_ that sits in the middle of the sidewalk-
a minor inconvenience to be avoided and ignored.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:17 pmWayne offered to meet you in any city, any where in the US next weekend.
And you WUSSED OUT.
W.U.S.S.E.D O.U.T
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Like he would buy an airline ticket and even show up. You’re dumber than you look Bartlepee.
I gave Wayne the option to fax me all relevent information, and even to whiteout sensative information.
Ball’s in his court.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:17 pmIt’s a very accurate number. And it is going to go even higher when the Dems nominate their anti-war candidates for president next year.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Bad Dog! I rubbed your nose in this the last time you crapped this out. It’s still a questionable poll, Doggy.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:18 pmRepublican and coward go hand in hand…
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
When you enlist in the military, then you can talk.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:18 pmI don’t know if Trolls are the piece of crap on the sidewalk or the flies that dine on it.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:19 pm“If you’ve never put on the uniform yourself, you are a coward. ”
Thanks for admitting that you’re a coward.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:19 pmBad Dog! I rubbed your nose in this the last time you crapped this out. It’s still a questionable poll, Doggy.
Comment by barfly
Only a 3% error rate.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:19 pmWhen you enlist in the military, then you can talk.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
Back at you – chickenhawk…
Until then, you’re just another loser hypocrite republican troll that refuses to fight for what he claims to believe in while WHIINNNNIIINNNGGGG that liberals won’t fight in a war you’re too cowardly to fight yourself!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:20 pmBall’s in his court.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Nope. I think its in your mouth, doggy. lap..lap…lap..lap…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:20 pm“Only a 3% error rate.”
Comment by Dr. Dog
Questionable methodology.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:21 pmOnly a 3% error rate.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
Meaning you’re wrong…
Because the poll you cited was from 2 years ago… The latest ones show a very low rating for your little lost political party.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:21 pm“It’s a lot easier than meeting in person.” – chicken dog
It’s a lot easier than meeting in person, where Wayne would turn you into a pretzel.
But, he will never send you a fax, so you can safely continue to hide behind that dodge.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:22 pmBall’s in his court.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:17 pm
Dog, you’ve been trashed up and down this and the Romney thread.
Why are you so afraid of meeting Wayne?
It’s a lot easier than meeting in person, which he will never do.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Then you have nothing to worry about, have you? Just agree to meet…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:22 pmI really have to wonder if that “Sargeant” is really serving in the Army and if he actually served in Iraq. Either way, he’s in a load of trouble.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:22 pmStoltz tried to warn him off but the guy would not quit. Stoltz finally had to end the panel and take the guy outside to talk to him.
What I find curious is that a member of Pajama Media was there just outside the room filming the whole scene.
Looks like a set-up to me.
“The latest ones show a very low rating for your little lost political party.”
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
Still questionable methodology…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:23 pmBecause the poll you cited was from 2 years ago… The latest ones show a very low rating for your little lost political party.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
The results were skewed because they were off fighting in a war. Something you are too cowardly to do.
The number is going to go to over 60% Republicans in the military next year when the Dems nominate their anti-war candidate.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:23 pmQuestionable methodology.
Comment by barfly — August 8, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
He forgot to tell you that the 56% is the last figure republicans will talk about, because it dropped into the mid 40s right after that… And it keeps sinking like a sub-prime loan company!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:23 pmYou don’t have friends – or even a girlfriend (how did you say you killed her?)
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle — August 8, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
——————-
I knew you sounded familiar!!!!
You’re Valiant Venus’s Anus!!!!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:23 pmWhen I get the fax, I’ll post the results here for everybody to see, if Wayne authorizes it.
Comment by Dr. Dog
When did YOU become the lord over our private lives?
Since you have no problem posting others records online, why don’t you set the example and post your own?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:23 pmPatterson muttered back that he had “been to Iraq too,†but Soltz laughed at his claim. “Are you talking about your rah-rah-sis-kum-bah cheerleader tours that the White House took you on or are you talking about as a soldier who took the country?â€
Best comeback of the week by a thinking person allowed on the airwaves.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:24 pmThe results were skewed because they were off fighting in a war. Something you are too cowardly to do. Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
You contradicted yourself. If it’s a 3% margin, the results can’t be skewed – dumbass!
The number is going to go to over 60% Republicans in the military next year when the Dems nominate their anti-war candidate.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Ah, another HENDLER among us! With all of those psychic prediction skills!
I predict that Fat Assed Dog will still live in his momma’s basement, and be too cowardly to fight in Iraq no matter how long the occupation lasts!!! I WIN!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:24 pmIt’s a lot easier than meeting in person, where Wayne would turn you into a pretzel.
But, he will never send you a fax, so you can safely continue to hide behind that dodge.
Comment by gorn by any other name
Wayne would never even show up, TROS.
All he has to do is send a fax. Can he not afford a fax machine to send it? He can go to Kinko’s.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:24 pm“I don’t know if Trolls are the piece of crap on the sidewalk or the flies that dine on it.” – dlet
Both.
Methinks you are describing both Dr. Dog’s approach to facing his enemies, and how he entertains himself.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:25 pmI knew you sounded familiar!!!!
You’re Valiant Venus’s Anus!!!!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Whatever Murderer…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:25 pm“The results were skewed because they were off fighting in a war. Something you are too cowardly to do.”
Comment by Dr. Dog
Ha, ha, ha… This is what I argued the other night – and you claimed I was a “moron” for saying it. Doggy’s now chasin’ his tail…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:26 pmWayne would never even show up, TROS.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
So now you are doing all this in consideration for Wayne?
That’s rich…
If you think Wayne won’t even show up, don’t be sooo considerate. Just agree to meet…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:26 pmNo need to repeat chicken dog’s spew on this thread. He already tucked tail and ran several times today.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:26 pmWhatever Murderer…
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle — August 8, 2007 @ 9:25 pm
I didn’t murder anyone. We are all responsible for our own decisions.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:26 pmWhere’s my copy of the memo? Dammit, I hate when I don’t get copied on the memo!!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:26 pmWayne would never even show up, TROS. Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
You mean you’d never show up.
All he has to do is send a fax. Can he not afford a fax machine to send it? He can go to Kinko’s. Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
More like you can’t afford to leave your momma’s basement. Coward.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:26 pmYou contradicted yourself. If it’s a 3% margin, the results can’t be skewed – dumbass!
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
It’s skewed because all the Republicans who should have been polled were out fighting a war, unlike you who has never served.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:26 pmLike he would buy an airline ticket and even show up. You’re dumber than you look Bartlepee.
I gave Wayne the option to fax me all relevent information, and even to whiteout sensative information.
Ball’s in his court.
Comment by Dr. Sqwak — August 8, 2007 @ 9:17 pm
A. He offered for you to come to his home town and you chickened out.
B. You offered him the option of sending a complete stranger on the internet, a noteably hostile stranger on the internet, (An RNC Troll), his personal identification records, with NOTHING from you in return.
He offered to meet you. You asked for six months to “train”.
BAWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
What a wimp
August 8th, 2007 at 9:27 pmThe number is going to go to over 60% Republicans in the military next year when the Dems nominate their anti-war candidate.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
It should be 90% republican, only most are cowards like you who won’t sign up. There should be 20 million republicans over there fighting for freedum! You know fight them there so you don’t have to fight them in a mall here, and see your moma (sp!) wearing a burka and forced to not go out in public without a male escort.
You’re a loser, you support a loser president, a loser political party, and a lost war for oil where we paid more at the pump, and their profits sky rotted, what a fool, and coward you are.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:27 pmIt’s skewed because all the Republicans who should have been polled were out fighting a war, unlike you who has never served.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
If it’s skewed, then your 3% argument is a lie. If your 3% argument is true, then your skewed argument is a lie.
You just called yourself a liar – chickenhawk!!
Now that’s funny!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:27 pmI didn’t murder anyone. We are all responsible for our own decisions. Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Says the murderer. I wonder how many other serial killers have used that same argument…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:28 pmWhen I get the fax, I’ll post the results here for everybody to see, if Wayne authorizes it.
Comment by Dr. Dog
When did YOU become the lord over our private lives?
Since you have no problem posting others records online, why don’t you set the example and post your own?
Comment by trueblue — August 8, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Hello??
Keep asking for HIS.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:28 pmHa, ha, ha… This is what I argued the other night – and you claimed I was a “moron†for saying it. Doggy’s now chasin’ his tail…
Comment by barfly
You argued that Republicans were off fighting a war and thus could not send in the polling card, which is what happened?
There are only 12% Democrats in the military.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:29 pmHey, you know who will give you 6 months to train?
The US Military. Why don’t you enlist, then they’ll train you.
I know you’re just a young, lilly white pencil dicked sandy headed right wing prick.
Sign up, and support the war you claim to support.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:29 pmThere are only 12% Democrats in the military.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
Actually that number is also up – liar…
You also still lied about the number of Republicans, it’s not 56%.
Liar.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:30 pm“He already tucked tail and ran several times today.”
He’s still got that questionable military poll clenched in his teeth. It’s pretty filthy, and tattered by now, but he somehow seems happier, dragging it around…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:31 pmSign up, and support the war you claim to support.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Sign up for the military for the country you claim to support. You don’t have to support the war to serve in the military. Soldiers are supposed to be apolitical, says Barfly.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:31 pmSeriously True Blue. Wayne offered to rent a boxing ring in any state next weekend, and meet him in the ring.
You know what the big bad dog did?
He wimpered. And asked for 6 months to “train”.
BWWAAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAA
August 8th, 2007 at 9:31 pmSays the murderer. I wonder how many other serial killers have used that same argument…
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle — August 8, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
————–
So you just come here to make stuff up?
That makes you a Libtroll!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:31 pmActually that number is also up – liar…
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
What is it now? How many Dems are in the military?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:32 pmGood job on cutting Soltz’s outright lies out of the video and quotes. I saw this conversation, and the part you posted was only AFTER Buzz was RIGHTFULLY pissed off. Soltz tried to deny the military had massive draw downs under Clinton, and of course partisan hack Matthews cut Buzz off when he was trying to make him correct himself. Then Soltz misrepresented the availability of up-armored HMMWVs, claiming we could get things in Kosovo we couldn’t get in Iraq. In reality, the Iraq situation was about a feasible upgrade to current models that was not available during Kosovo- not the M1114 model, which was in Kosovo. But of course, even after Matthews cut Buzz’s rebuttal short, you wouldn’t even include that.
Buzz is right, and Soltz is an ass who does NOT accurately represent our vets and troops. I am a former US Army Airborne Infantryman, and a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan… and compared to me it’s Soltz’s log-pacs and tanker experience that looks like a dog and pony show.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:32 pmComment by trueblue — August 8, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Have you been able to access FB today?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:32 pmSign up for the military for the country you claim to support. You don’t have to support the war to serve in the military. Soldiers are supposed to be apolitical, says Barfly. Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
Liar.
You just claimed that the military was politically republican.
Now you claim it isn’t.
Any excuse to avoid admitting that you’re just too much of a coward to serve in a war you claim to support. That’s true hypocrisy – loser.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:32 pmNo matter what DIPPY THE DOG says here. You can always feel the hate eminating loudly.
And it is because deep down in his soul he knows he is a crying little yellow coward.
So his only escape is to blame the people also know that he is a coward.
Denial can be an ugly thing.
” It’s okay widdle felwa. Widdle yella. It’s ok It’s ok… Yeah at’s a go-boy “
August 8th, 2007 at 9:33 pmWhat is it now? How many Dems are in the military?
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
BAHAHAHA, now I have to go do your homework for you GW?
Lazy stupid bastard.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:34 pmLiar.
You just claimed that the military was politically republican.
Now you claim it isn’t.
Any excuse to avoid admitting that you’re just too much of a coward to serve in a war you claim to support. That’s true hypocrisy – loser.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
You’re twisting yourself into a pretzle. Come up for air, jackass.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:34 pm“Sign up for the military for the country you claim to support.” – chicken dog
Please post the photo showing you signing up at an enlistment center.
Can’t find it? Oh, what a surprise.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:34 pmBAHAHAHA, now I have to go do your homework for you GW?
Lazy stupid bastard.
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
Post the link, or it’s a lie. You’re choice.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:34 pmSay one thing about TPs continual allowance of troll raiding and it doesn’t post. F-U Tp.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:35 pmPlease post the photo showing you signing up at an enlistment center.
Can’t find it? Oh, what a surprise.
Comment by gorn by any other name
I will never honor you on veterans day. Because you never served.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:35 pmYou’re twisting yourself into a pretzle. Come up for air, jackass.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
More self criticism…
Come on liar boy…
What’s wrong, you can’t decide what you stand for anymore?
You’re for the war, but you’re against fighting it!!! Hypocrite…
Come on, gives another knot – pretzel dog!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:35 pm“You argued that Republicans were off fighting a war and thus could not send in the polling card, which is what happened?”
I argued that the numbers could be skewed, for a number of reasons.
You argued they were “balls on accurate” – but now, you’re saying there are factors which could invalidate the outcome of this spurious poll.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:36 pmSign up for the military for the country you claim to support. You don’t have to support the war to serve in the military. Soldiers are supposed to be apolitical, says Barfly.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
A. I am way over the enlistment age sally.
B. Even if I could enlist, which I can’t, I wouldn’t enlist when we’re in the middle of an illegal occupation that I oppose. To do so would be ludicrious, and would constitute the opposite of what I believe in.
See fool, as we keep telling you, its the little cowardly pusses like you, who support this war with your MOUTHS, that need to support it with their lives.
But you won’t.
Cause you’re like Mitt Romney’s sons.
A CHICKENHAWK.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:36 pm†It’s okay widdle felwa. Widdle yella. It’s ok It’s ok… Yeah at’s a go-boy “
Comment by really
Name changing again Gorn?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:36 pmI will never honor you on veterans day. Because you never served.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:35 pm
Says the coward that won’t serve in a war he says he believes in…
Hypocrite, liar and fool – the lead mascot of the 101 chickenhawk brigade!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:36 pmWayne would never even show up, TROS.
All he has to do is send a fax. Can he not afford a fax machine to send it? He can go to Kinko’s.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
And here I’m thinkin… that’s odd, I didn’t say that??? Oh, I gotcha now. Ya had me confused for a minute. I’m somebody else again. Do you realize the havoc this plays w/ my wardrobe, constantly having to re-sew those little tags on everything?
Now I’m Gorn, no, wait, I’m the Republic, oops, make that Gorn, no… no, the Republic… I’m gittin’ a headache!!!
That’s generally why I buy all my clothes w/ names already on them. If I’m gonna be someone else all the time, I might as well be Eddie Bauer, or LL Bean, or Tommy Hilfiger, or Ralph Lauren…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:36 pmPost the link, or it’s a lie. You’re choice.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
I already posted you the link on the other thread…
You said you didn’t care.
Why would you care now – liar boy?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:37 pmCue the strawmen:
“Soldiers are supposed to be apolitical, says Barfly.”
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
August 8th, 2007 at 9:37 pmI’m Baaaack!
Where are the freekin’ trolls? God, I hates me some Rredneck trolls!
Lt. Colonel Robert “Buzz†Patterson? Lt. Colonel? Is that as high as he climbed the ladder? And they gave him a show? there’s a whole crop of recently “retired” Generals they could give a show. Guess they aren’t patriotic enough for the right wing. Dis-freekin’-gusting.
Now, where’s dem trolls?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:38 pm56% of the soldiers in Iraq are Republican, and only 12% are Dem.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Hey dirty dog, did you ever get around to posting a link to the Military Times poll you claimed was “recent”? I must have missed it. And yet you’re demanding that a vet fax you his discharge papers? You have a lot of nerve, dog poo.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:38 pmName changing again Gorn?
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
Whatever Mr. P…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:38 pmYou argued they were “balls on accurate†– but now, you’re saying there are factors which could invalidate the outcome of this spurious poll.
Comment by barfly
Yes, there happen to be now. There was a surge, and the Republicans who should have been polled are out there fighting in a war.
But the number was still the same at 12% Democrat.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:38 pmI already posted you the link on the other thread…
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
You’re too big fat and lazy to get it.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:39 pmYou guys do realize the Talking Dog is yanking your chain, don’t you?
He knows the numbers he uses don’t mean anything. He could care less who’s really a vet or not. He’s just seeing how many times he can get you to do what he wants. Geez, guys…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:39 pmGood job on cutting Soltz’s outright lies out of the video and
quotes. I saw this conversation, and the part you posted was only
AFTER Buzz was RIGHTFULLY pissed off. Soltz tried to deny the military
had massive draw downs under Clinton, and of course partisan hack
Matthews cut Buzz off when he was trying to make him correct himself.
Then Soltz misrepresented the availability of up-armored HMMWVs,
claiming we could get things in Kosovo we couldn’t get in Iraq. In
reality, the Iraq situation was about a feasible upgrade to current
models that was not available during Kosovo- not the M1114 model,
which was in Kosovo. But of course, even after Matthews cut Buzz’s
rebuttal short, you wouldn’t even include that.
Buzz is right, and Soltz is an ass who does NOT accurately represent
our vets and troops. I am a former US Army Airborne Infantryman, and
a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan… and compared to me it’s Soltz’s log-
pacs and tanker experience that looks like a dog and pony show.
Comment by Vet223 — August 8, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
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Thanks for your post. I noticed that TP did not provide a transcript of Soltz’s evading Buzz’s questions. However, I did not see the entire debate and I did not know that Soltz was lying the entire time.
Thanks for providing the facts!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:39 pm“What is it now? How many Dems are in the military?”
Comment by Dr. Dog
As I stated the other night, the pentagon doesn’t compile voter affiliation for servicemembers. A specious poll is the best you wingnuts can produce.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:40 pm“Name changing again Gorn?” – chicken dog
Oh no, you’re on to me!
Just curious, how does dogtail taste, exactly?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:41 pmWhile the Democrats fighting the war are having their votes caged by Karl Rove and the cabal. Nice try nutjob.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:41 pmSee fool, as we keep telling you, its the little cowardly pusses like you, who support this war with your MOUTHS, that need to support it with their lives.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
And what I’m telling you, that it’s ok for you to serve the country in the military even if you don’t support the war. You claim to be an American, yet you are holier than thou about serving yourself.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:41 pm“Yes, there happen to be now. There was a surge, and the Republicans who should have been polled are out there fighting in a war. ”
Now you’re getting desperate…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:41 pmComment by Vet223 — August 8, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
Well if Soltz denied cuts to the military, and there were cuts. (lets not forget most of Clintons term was under a republican controlled congress, you know those that control the purse strings) than he is wrong for denying it.
But really if all the GOP has is “But Clinton” then it’s a sad state of affairs.
And as a vet, did you see combat? Then how can you sit and accept Buzz’s guided tour as “him having been to Iraq”, you should be offended. Have you woke up yet that you and your friends were used to steal their oil? If the Iraqi people want to control their oil don’t ya think we should let them? Is this the freedom your friends died for? Exxon and friends to get 80% of the profits?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:41 pmHere, heres from Sniff Doggy Dogs link.
Wow.
They really love you guys, huh pooch?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:43 pmYes, there happen to be now. There was a surge, and the Republicans who should have been polled are out there fighting in a war.
But the number was still the same at 12% Democrat.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:38 pm
Thereby undermining your 3% accuracy argument. Which lie is it you’re going to stick with?
I already posted you the link on the other thread…
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle
You’re too big fat and lazy to get it.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
Says the fat lazy dog that’s still using 2 year old survey numbers!!!
Ah the irony!!
A fat lazy chickenhawk dog!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:43 pmYou claim to be an American, yet you are holier than thou about serving yourself.
Comment by Dr. Dog —
Except you don’t serve either, and so you have no moral authority to tell others what to do.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:43 pmit’s ok for you to serve the country in the military even if you don’t support the war.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
If this is true, then it is even more so if you do support the occupation of Iraq.
Why won’t you publish your military service details, as you want to do with Wayne’s?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:43 pmThanks for your post. I noticed that TP did not provide a transcript of Soltz’s evading Buzz’s questions. However, I did not see the entire debate and I did not know that Soltz was lying the entire time.
Thanks for providing the facts!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
Drawdowns? You mean the ones ordered under George BushI? That Clinton reversed?
You’re a lunatic – girlfriend murderer…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:44 pmOh my, this is truly scare. Although I did have a good laugh at some of the responses.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:44 pmMan, what a dumbed down Nation we seem to be.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:45 pmExcept you don’t serve either, and so you have no moral authority to tell others what to do. Comment by barfly — August 8, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
The only morality that chickenhawks have is do as I say, not as I do. Maybe that’s why so many of them are always gay bashing and claiming to protect children – till they end up on catch a predator!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:45 pmJeez… these libtrolls are disrupting the Conservatives trying to have a serious conversation.
TP really needs to ban them.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:45 pmAnd what I’m telling you, that it’s ok for you to serve the country in the military even if you don’t support the war. You claim to be an American, yet you are holier than thou about serving yourself.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
And what I am telling you inbred, is A. I AM TOO OLD.
B. I AM AGAINST THE WAR.
ITS A$$HOLES LIKE YOU WHO SUPPORT THE WAR WHO NEED TO GO FIGHT IT.
WIMP.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:46 pmMan, what a dumbed down Nation we seem to be.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
It would be easy to reach that conclusion, if you listen to the MSM and read Dog/Mr.P. They’re about as dumb as you get…
August 8th, 2007 at 9:46 pmYou’re a lunatic – girlfriend murderer…
Comment by GregoryIsAGargoyle — August 8, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
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You have no idea what happened! So can it!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 9:46 pmI am sure that Buzz has respect for the Dodging Romneys though.
-GSD
August 8th, 2007 at 9:47 pm“the Conservatives trying to have a serious conversation.”
After being exposed as big-spending, big government torture-loving whackos – exactly what do you have to talk about? The tornado in New Jersey?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:49 pmYou have no idea what happened! So can it!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 8, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
WTF?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:49 pmThe Nazi Anus killed his girlfriend? How sad.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:49 pmGregory of Nazianzus, just to warn you, there are 4 or 5 screen names here who are actually the same liberal. He’s got 5 browsers open.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:52 pmMany of the “draw downs” under Bill Clinton were the enacting of the policies of George Herbert Walker Bush and his Defense Secretary Richard Bruce Cheney.
The other point. If Bill Clinton HAD destroyed the military, why oh why would George and Dick rush America to war with a devastated military when they could have taken a year or two to hunker down and rebuild said devastated military.
The US was and is the largest, best equipped military in the world, but that doesn’t amount to a bucket of warm spit if the leadership is out of their league.
Yes, Dick and George are out of their league and are destroying the US Army and the US image abroad too.
Heckuva job.
-GSD
August 8th, 2007 at 9:53 pmI am sure that Buzz has respect for the Dodging Romneys though.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
When you serve in the military yourself, then you can criticize others who didn’t.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:53 pmGregory of Nazianzus, just to warn you, there are 4 or 5 screen names here who are actually the same liberal. He’s got 5 browsers open.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
————–
I know. It’s hard to tell sometimes if there is more than one libtroll, or if it is just one lib!
I do think you are right that TRoS = Gorn, etc.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:54 pm“He’s got 5 browsers open.” – chicken dawg
You speak from experience, clearly.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:54 pmDr. Dog, in the words of Ann Coulter…”Why are you trying to shut me up?”
-GSD
August 8th, 2007 at 9:54 pmWhen you serve in the military yourself, then you can criticize others who didn’t.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Wrong.
When those “others” are busy supporting a war with their MOUTHS, that they won’t fight with their bodies, then we’ll criticize you until the cows come home.
Or the troops.
Whichever comes first.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:55 pmYoung Republicans are too busy blowing guys in their sleep to enlist in the US military.
-GSD
August 8th, 2007 at 9:55 pm“I do think you are right that TRoS = Gorn, etc.” – Nazi Anus
Now come on, guys, we already both admitted that we’re the same person.
Your challenge is to guess all of our flaming lib screen names. Let’s see how many you can get right.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:57 pmPolitics is a manipulative business, everyone lies.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:57 pmAh yes, the brave young Romney’s are using the EM50, Urban Assault Vehicle made famous in the movie Stripes and have invaded Iowa.
-GSD
August 8th, 2007 at 9:58 pmYoung Republicans are too busy blowing guys in their sleep to enlist in the US military.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
But only 12% of the military is Democrat. What are they blowing that they can’t serve?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:58 pm#244: When those “others†are busy supporting a war with their MOUTHS, that they won’t fight with their bodies, then we’ll criticize you until the cows come home.
I think the definition of “chickenhawk” that showed up here a few weeks ago is apt: chickenhawks are civilians who ascribe the courage of soldiers during wartime to themselves because they take a pro-war position.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:59 pm“I know. It’s hard to tell sometimes if there is more than one libtroll, or if it is just one lib!” – Nazi Anus
Yep, that’s a real poser. On the bright side, I do believe you didn’t murder your girlfriend. She must have killed herself. Who could blame her. Can’t be pleasant to be hooked up with a nazi anus (unless your a nazi dr. dog)
August 8th, 2007 at 9:59 pmNow come on, guys, we already both admitted that we’re the same person.
Your challenge is to guess all of our flaming lib screen names. Let’s see how many you can get right.
Comment by gorn by any other name — August 8, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
Do you know, or can you guess, what my other screen name is?
August 8th, 2007 at 9:59 pmPolitics is a manipulative business, everyone lies.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
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Agreed.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:59 pmWhen those “others†are busy supporting a war with their MOUTHS, that they won’t fight with their bodies, then we’ll criticize you until the cows come home.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
And when you claim to support this country but are too holier than thou to serve in the military, you will be criticized.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:00 pmWhen you serve in the military yourself, then you can criticize others who didn’t.
Comment by Dr. Dog —
But you just criticized me for not serving – and you’ve never served yourself.
You’re just going around in rhetorical circles.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:00 pmWTF?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:00 pmIf people would actually listen to Soltz, he is no pacifist. He is a battle hardened experienced vet, who knows that Bin Laden has been in Pakistan ever since we let him get away.
Soltz wants to get Bin Laden, and stop wasting American lives in an illegal occupation that never should have happened, and only creates more Anti American sentiment, hence more terrorist candidates.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:00 pmShe must have killed herself. Who could blame her. Can’t be pleasant to be hooked up with a nazi anus (unless your a nazi dr. dog)
Comment by gorn by any other name
TP should really ban this flamer. He’s added nothing to the discussion.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:00 pmThis blog has mostly conservative commenters on it. Take off, dick breath.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Your mother should be ashamed of herself.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:01 pm“And when you claim to support this country but are too holier than thou to serve in the military, you will be criticized.”
Comment by Dr. Dog —
And so will you… chickenhawk.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:01 pm“Do you know, or can you guess, what my other screen name is?” -
Comment by Jeannie See
Gorn?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:01 pmBut you just criticized me for not serving – and you’ve never served yourself.
You’re just going around in rhetorical circles.
Comment by barfly —
And you criticized me for allegedly not serving even though you never served yourself. You claim to be an American. You claim to love your country. But you never suited up.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:02 pmAnd when you claim to support this country but are too holier than thou to serve in the military, you will be criticized.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
As I have told you 6 times now inbred,
And what I am telling you inbred, is
A. I AM TOO OLD.
B. I AM AGAINST THE WAR.
ITS NOT THOSE OF US WHO ARE AGAINST THE WAR WHO WOULD ENLIST YOU MORON.
ITS A$$HOLES LIKE YOU WHO SUPPORT THE WAR WHO NEED TO GO FIGHT IT.
GET IT TROLL BOY?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:02 pmAnd so will you… chickenhawk.
Comment by barfly
And so will you, chickendove.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:02 pmVets going after eachother, and distracting attention from Congres and the President’s illegal activity.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:03 pm“Gorn?”
Comment by gorn by any other name
“P”brain.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:03 pmTP should really ban this flamer. He’s added nothing to the discussion.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
Pot meet kettle.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:03 pmSupport the troops with your MOUTHS.
But when its your time?
You sit back, like Romney’s coward sons.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:04 pm“TP should really ban this flamer. He’s added nothing to the discussion.” – chicken dog
I agree. All posters who offer no content should be banned immediately.
** crickets **
“Where’d everybody go” – comment by Zooey
** crickets **
August 8th, 2007 at 10:04 pmDeputy Dog is a LIAR!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:04 pm#261: nope.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:04 pmITS NOT THOSE OF US WHO ARE AGAINST THE WAR WHO WOULD ENLIST YOU MORON.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
You should enlist as well, if you really love your country.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:05 pm“Do you know, or can you guess, what my other screen name is?†-
Comment by Jeannie See
Gorn?
Comment by gorn by any other name — August 8, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Hey, I’m Gorn!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:05 pm“All that is left here is one dumb fu*k d!ck wad that gets his jollies spending all day long at a web site where nobody gives a fu*k about anything he says.”
If no one gives a fu*k about what he says, then why are a good percentage of the posts on this thread either by the troll or in response to the troll.
I firmly believe that if the trolls all left this website, it would become a ghost town because many of the people who are not trolls who post here are here to play with the trolls. Many of them contribute little to the discourse and contribute a lot to keeping the trolls here.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:05 pm“And you criticized me for allegedly not serving even though you never served yourself. You claim to be an American. You claim to love your country. But you never suited up.”
Comment by Dr. Dog
Are you talking to yourself in the mirror?
That guy’s a chickenhawk too.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:05 pm> am a former US Army Airborne Infantryman, and a veteran of Iraq and >Afghanistan
For the sake of argument lets suppose your telling the truth.
Do you support you fellow soldiers dying to Iraqis can have the freedom to become a pro-iranian islamic theocracy? Do you support them dying so Iraqis can have a democracy like Palestine?
Care to discuss the motivating factors that led to our former support and alliance with hussien? Why are we trying to “liberate” the people we used to help saddam gas? Are you pleased with how greatful they are?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:05 pmSupport the troops with your MOUTHS.
But when its your time?
You sit back, like Romney’s coward sons.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
You never enlisted yourself. Hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:05 pmYou should enlist as well, if you really love your country.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
You’re just inbred stupid aren’t you?
Which part of I am too old don’t you get?
I CAN”T ENLIST MORON.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:06 pmNo, I’m Gorn, and so is my wife!
(who can guess the reference??)
August 8th, 2007 at 10:06 pmAnd so will you, chickendove.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Any time, doggy.
Where could we meet?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:07 pmAre you talking to yourself in the mirror?
That guy’s a chickenhawk too.
Comment by barfly —
That guy you look at in the morning when you shave is a chickendove. Somebody who claims to support his country, but looks down upon serving himself. He criticizes others for not serving, but didn’t have the balls to serve himself.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:07 pm“Buzz is a bi*ch…
Comment by big papa — August 8, 2007″
Gosh! Learn your debating skills in a public school?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:07 pmBut I know I saw you talking tough, and mocking Waynes servince, and I saw Wayne, offer to rent any boxing ring in the US, anywhere, and meet you.
And I know I saw you fold like a little sissy.
I know I saw that.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:07 pmWhich part of I am too old don’t you get?
I CANâ€T ENLIST MORON.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
You never enlisted in your whole life.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:08 pmDr. Dog are you for or against vanilla ice cream?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:08 pmYou should enlist as well, if you really love your country.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
No, Dickbrain, if you love this country, you will stray here and fight the real enemy of our Democracy… in the WH.
And just to stop your initial response, I fought in the other illegal war, 27 years ago.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:09 pmDr. Dog, pulling statistics from somewhere?
Bush and Cheney should be fired for rank incompetence.
Blowing the US treasury and being unable to defeat a handful in dead-enders that Rumsfeld told us about back in 2003.
The US was able to, with the help of allies and Russia, roll up the Nazis, fascist Italy and Imperial Japan in less time than these misleaders have taken to screw up two actions against militarily weak nations.
-GSD
August 8th, 2007 at 10:09 pmGood to see Nazi’sm is alive and well in Amerikkka
At&T censors Pearl Jam anti-bush comments…
http://pearljam.com/news/index.php?what=News#195
Originally spotted on Huffingtonpost.com
Cancel your AT&T today, and let them know why.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:09 pm“Many of them contribute little to the discourse and contribute a lot to keeping the trolls here.” - Comment by bilbobaggins
It’s a form of protest against the fact that TP continues to ignore the problem of trolls.
If they would enable registration, the volume would go down, but the quality would go up (promise).
But somehow I think their goal may be quantity.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:09 pmDoctor Dog is really a pussy.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:09 pmPearls are made of sand and other sea debris, were you aware of that?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:10 pmJust for the hell of it I did a count. Of the first 273 posts on this thread 48 were either by the troll Nazianzus or mentioned his name. That’s 18% of the posts. And, I’m sure the percentage is actually much higher because many of your posts responding to the troll didn’t mention his name.
What do you think this accomplishes. Do you really think you are going to change the trolls minds? Do you really think that anyone here believes anything the trolls have to say? If not, then why do you spend so much time responding to their posts?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:10 pm“He criticizes others for not serving, but didn’t have the balls to serve himself.”
Comment by Dr. Dog
And here you stand…
August 8th, 2007 at 10:11 pmBut I know I saw you talking tough, and mocking Waynes servince, and I saw Wayne, offer to rent any boxing ring in the US, anywhere, and meet you.
And I know I saw you fold like a little sissy.
I know I saw that.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
And I told him to spare the trouble he could just fax me the information. But he went away.
You never enlisted in the military your whole life. You are a cowardly hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:11 pmNow I could understand if we were doing well, and the militaries ranks were full.
But think about it. Here are little punks, like this worm Dr Dog, (22 if he’s a day) and the rest, and wimps like ALL FIVE of Mitt Romney’s lilly white spoiled right wing brats, PRAISING THE WAR in IRAQ, while the war is RAGING on, and our soliders are just dying on a daily basis, and the military IS SCREAMING FOR RECRUITS, and here are all these PRO WAR RIGHT WING NEOCON ENLISTMENT AGE PRICKS, TALKING TOUGH ABOUT WAR IN IRAQ BUT TOO MUCH THE COWARDS TO SIGN UP.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:11 pmYep. Under Bush’s watch Afghanistan is still full of Taliban and Al Qaeda, and now Iraq and Pakistan are full of Al Qaeda too. Ans supposedly Iran and Saudi Arabia and Syria are pouring money and weapons into Iraq.
Talk about a failing strategy.
That is quite the recored.
-GSD
August 8th, 2007 at 10:12 pm“Doctor Dog is really a pussy.” – barfly
Look, I know pussy. Pussy is a friend of mine. Dr Dog is no pussy.
He’s a cowardly ankle biting troll. Please don’t insult pussies.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:12 pmBlowing the US treasury and being unable to defeat a handful in dead-enders that Rumsfeld told us about back in 2003.
Comment by GSD
Obama said he’d run a deficit to fund heathcare.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:12 pmYou never enlisted in the military your whole life. You are a cowardly hypocrite.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
You don’t know what I’ve done my whole life prick.
All you know, is the MILITARY IS BEGGING FOR RECRUITS, and YOU’RE TOO MUCH OF A COWARD, TO SIGN UP and HELP THE WAR YOU SUPPORT WITH YOUR BIG FAT MOUTH.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:13 pmBuzz was in the AF. Not sure why thinks he is so tough. By the way, Dr. Dog is an idiot.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:13 pmDr. Dog said the Military Times had a recent poll with numbers on voter registration in the ranks. Dr. Dog has refused to post a link to this poll, and no searching on the Military Times website has come up with any poll at all.
Challenge to Dr. Dog: come up with the actual poll results of a recent Military Times poll or simply stop posting your “numbers” on voter registration.
Which is it?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:13 pmand the military IS SCREAMING FOR RECRUITS
Comment by BARTLEBEE
So join up, pussy. Support your country besides crabbing about it on the internet.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:14 pm“Obama said he’d run a deficit to fund heathcare”
As opposed to running a much larger deficit for a war of choice? Doesn’t sound unreasonable, even for someone like me who doesn’t really like him.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:14 pmYou don’t know what I’ve done my whole life prick.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
It doesn’t include enlisting in the military, I will bet you that you sad sack.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:14 pmThe Military Times would not post the poll he stated.
Bush is turning large swathes of the US military into Democrats. Not to mention a lot of Latinos who are fighting and dying in Iraq only to come home and hear Bush Republicans attacking them, their families and thier ethnic background.
-GSD
August 8th, 2007 at 10:15 pmMust be the media arm doing try-outs for roboblabers.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:15 pmHow long does it take drain these guys brains before installing the script?
He may have been a real military man.But real military men don’t get on tv and fight other real military men.
Oh wait,maybe this is swift boat try-outs?That season is coming right up.
They must have many vacancies for that type prop radio to be searching way down at the screech level.
“It’s a form of protest against the fact that TP continues to ignore the problem of trolls.”
Oh give me a break. You do not play with the trolls just because TP doesn’t have a registration system. You play with the trolls because it makes you feel witty and smart. When in actuality, all it does is lower yourself to their level. Whatever floats your boat.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:15 pm“Please don’t insult pussies.”
Comment by gorn by any other name
I meant a pampered, well fed feline, too comfortable on his little pillow to bother with such things as military service.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:15 pmI meant a pampered, well fed feline, too comfortable on his little pillow to bother with such things as military service.
Comment by barfly
Says the wimp who never served. Momma’s boy.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:17 pmSo join up, pussy. Support your country besides crabbing about it on the internet.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Fighting this illegal war has NOTHING to do with supporting this country…. just the NeoCon BushCo enemies of the State and of the world.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:17 pmYOUR BIG FAT MOUTH
Doctors once treated this malady with a tincture of acid and crushed juniper leaves.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:18 pmFighting this illegal war has NOTHING to do with supporting this country….
Comment by upside00
Joining the military does. If you claim to support the country, you will enlist.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:18 pm“You don’t know what I’ve done my whole life prick.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
It doesn’t include enlisting in the military, I will bet you that you sad sack”
Says the guy who supports the war but refuses to fight in it.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:18 pmState and of the world.
You are a liar and a bigot.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:18 pmSays the guy who supports the war but refuses to fight in it.
Comment by JPark
Says the guy who supports the troops but is too holier than thou to become one himself.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:19 pmHow I knew Dr. dog was a Republican…
… When I was training him not to pee on the floor, I would use an empty Coke can with a few pennies, dimes and nickels inside. When he would leave me a present on the floor, I’d pick up the can and shake it at him. The rattling sound scared him so badly that he gradually learned to hold it until I let him out.
But then it hit me. Dr. dog was a Republican. The sounds of change scared him to death.
Hi Dr. Dogs*it
BwaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaa
August 8th, 2007 at 10:19 pmShhhhhh, Jdork, the adults are talking.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:20 pmJoining the military does. If you claim to support the country, you will enlist.
Comment by Dr. Dog
As I have said before, fighting this war is NOT supporting the country.
And I am a wounded vet of the illegal Vietnam war.
How many combat tours have YOU served, sissy boy?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:20 pmIt doesn’t include enlisting in the military, I will bet you that you sad sackâ€
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
Not that its any of your business, I did try to enlist, during Desert Storm, but was declined due to age.
If I was too old then, I am definately too old now.
On the other hand, I KNOW you’re of enlistment age, and yet here you are.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:20 pmThe sounds of change scared him to death.
Hi Dr. Dogs*it
BwaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaa
Comment by Merlin
It obviously doesn’t scare you. You are begging on the corner for change yourself.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:20 pmDr. Dog. Let’s see. I abhor this war but I am supposed to sign up but you love this war and sit on your a$$. Good job!!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:21 pmI KNOW you’re of enlistment age, and yet here you are.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
No I’m not.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:21 pmMilitary SCREAMING for recruits, and here you are, young, lilly white right wing PRO WAR prick.
Running his mouth in a blog about supporting a war that he himself, is unwilling to enlist in.
Just like Mitt’s Twits.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:21 pm“Shhhhhh, Jdork, the adults are talking”
Sh!t, I guess I missed the adults. Where were they?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:22 pmQ: Why is it a bad idea to eat the hot dogs at Merlin’s family reunion?
A: Because they taste like shit.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:22 pmDr. Dog. Let’s see. I abhor this war but I am supposed to sign up but you love this war and sit on your a$$. Good job!!!!
Comment by JPark
It doesn’t matter if you love the war or hate it. If you are a good American, you would serve your country. But you won’t sign up. You scorn military service. You criticize others for something you’re too afraid to do.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:22 pmNo I’m not.
Comment by Dr. Dog
Then you are either under 17 or over 49.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:22 pmNo I’m not.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
Sure you are.
You’re sweating the draft right now.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:22 pmThe bottom line is, is that we were ALL lied to. Now, it’s coming to a head and people really can’t believe that we were lied to by our own Government.
I think we are all frustrated and feeling betrayed. This constant bickering between ourselves, no matter what party we belong to, is quite frankly, bullshit. I mean seriously, who in the hell wants to see anyone’s way of life destroyed? Whether it be our way of life or their way of life?
Who in the hell are we to be so arrogant that we feel that we have the right to invade another country without any evidence that that country was responsible for the attack on our country?
If you trolls can’t see what the current President of OUR country is doing to it’s own people, then, there is no hope for you. You will get what you have allowed him to do. Then what are you going to do, cry “Foul”? You don’t have that right anymore.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:22 pmWhoa, Bartlebee, do NOT attach my name to that post.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:23 pmRunning his mouth in a blog about supporting a war that he himself, is unwilling to enlist in.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
You claim to support your country, but won’t serve yourself. What does that say about you?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:23 pmShouldn’t you be licking you own ass, or something?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pmI said SSSSSHHHHHHH! Jtwat, open your ears you coward. Shooo!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pmyellow=dog; Be very, very careful here, Upside00 is a Vietnam veteran too. You may find a grenade in your shorts.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pmSure you are.
You’re sweating the draft right now.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
No I’m not, but you are kiddo. You’re a pimply nose little punk who scorns military service.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pmyou mean rightwinger attacks leftwinger blah blah.
Olby’s debate numbers really are bad lol.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pm“Says the guy who supports the troops but is too holier than thou to become one himself.”
Comment by Dr. Dog
You?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:25 pm“It doesn’t matter if you love the war or hate it.”
Joseph Goebells would have loved your ignorant a$$
August 8th, 2007 at 10:25 pmAnd I am a wounded vet of the illegal Vietnam war.
Comment by upside00
That is bullsh*t.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:25 pmShouldn’t you be licking you own ass, or something?
Awwwww dog, you didnt tell me you were a lib!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:25 pmIf you trolls can’t see what the current President of OUR country is doing to it’s own people, then, there is no hope for you. You will get what you have allowed him to do. Then what are you going to do, cry “Foul� You don’t have that right anymore.
Comment by Jeannie See
Great post Jeannie, but is wasted on these sissy boys, who never leave mom’s basement except to pick up more acne meds and hemorrhoid suppositories along with the latest copy of Guns and Ammo.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:26 pmPretty bird, you are not at Red State anymore. You are nothing but another idiotic troll here.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:26 pmThat is bullsh*t.
Agreed. Top of the line, A1 bullshiite of the highest order.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:26 pmIll try this in 3 posts:
Post 1:
Comment by Vet223 — August 8, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
We are supposed to believe that one ex-soldier, who served in Iraq, like you, was entirely wrong (and a liar, to boot), and the other ex-soldier, who never served in Iraq was entirely right (and a patriot), because you are an ex-soldier who served in Iraq?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:27 pmPost 2:
I must say, that the tone of your post (angry), your libelous statements against a fellow Iraq vet, and your all bold type post were less than reasonable and quite frankly, suspiciously political.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:27 pmJoseph Goebells would have loved your ignorant a$$
You say that to all the guys.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:27 pmComment by Rush’s Carbunkle
When the ass infections start to talk, it’s time to say goodnight.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:27 pmDr. Dog would have said “I was just following orders” after he gassed thousands of Jews. What a disgusting less than human being.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:28 pmState and of the world.
You are a liar and a bigot.
Comment by Bishop — August 8, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
Why does the world trust the Russian president more than the American?
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/37/g8-summiteers-inspire-little-confidence-around-the-globe
August 8th, 2007 at 10:28 pm“The bottom line is, is that we were ALL lied to. Now, it’s coming to a head and people really can’t believe that we were lied to by our own Government.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007″
What lies are you referring to? Be specific and show proof? Don’t refer me to some dopey liberal site. Provide PROOF!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:28 pmPretty sheep, are you done now? Or are you going to say something even more stupid?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:29 pmlatest copy of Guns and Ammo.
Ill let you borrow my copy, the main article concerns compact guns for ladies who dont have a lot of hand strenth. Right up your alley.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:29 pmMust be something in post 3 the filter doesn’t like.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:29 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius — August 8, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
I reposted his post in bold, because all of the libtroll sh!t.
His post was merely pointed out that crucial parts of the discussion had been edited, so that it looked like Buzz was being unreasonable.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:30 pmPretty sheep, are you done now? Or are you going to say something even more stupid?
No and Yes.
“JPark”.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:30 pmMichael, what lies are she not referring to? Be specific and show proof. Don’t refer to Rush Limbaugh.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:31 pmawww, skip it. this is one weird site.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:31 pmType slowly for Jpark, he is still working on post #7.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:32 pmHehe, good one Pretty Sheep. I am so beaten. Are you going to actually add something or are you just going to sit there saying stupid things?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:32 pmBe specific and show proof.
Comment by JPark
This is ironic coming from this guy.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:32 pmIll let you borrow my copy, the main article concerns compact guns for ladies who dont have a lot of hand strenth. Right up your alley.
Comment by Pretty Pretty Bird
Must have been the first article you were drawn too. Has it affected your one-hand chicken choking? You and Sissy Boy dog-ass can do each other.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:33 pmI’m a gay man.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:34 pmDr. Dog, how do you know, newbie?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:34 pmIf you trolls can’t see what the current President of OUR country is doing to it’s own people, then, there is no hope for you. You will get what you have allowed him to do. Then what are you going to do, cry “Foul� You don’t have that right anymore.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
Well said, but it’s lost on them, Jeannie.
TP is a lost cause anymore.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:35 pmOh, yeah, it is Jake, the list maker.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:35 pmYou and Sissy Boy dog-ass can do each other.
Comment by upside00
Leave your fantasies out of this, pervert.
You no more served in Vietnam than Barfly.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:35 pmMust have been the first article you were drawn too. Has it affected your one-hand chicken choking? You and Sissy Boy dog-ass can do each other.
“Chicken choking”? LOL, eighties slang reborn. Dont tell me, you have a mullet and a Firebird with lift-kit and t-tops? LOOOL
August 8th, 2007 at 10:36 pmPoor trolls.
Get their a$$es handed to them and all they’ve got left is impersonating us.
Don’t worry little troll. You might think you’re escaping tonight, but none of us who were here, will forget how you SQAUWKED when Wayne called you out.
Just like you’re going to squawk when they reinstate the draft, to handle all the wars you little chickenhawks start.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:37 pmPretty, I am thinking you know WAY too much about trailer culture.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:37 pmGreat post Jeannie, but is wasted on these sissy boys, who never leave mom’s basement except to pick up more acne meds and hemorrhoid suppositories along with the latest copy of Guns and Ammo.
Comment by upside00 — August 8, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
It may be a waste of time, but, when something happens to them like their email disappearing or their phones are tapped, they will have no recourse except to say that we told them so. Then, when they do crawl out of the basment and want our help, we will be there to help them, ’cause, that’s just the kind of people we are.
However, scoffing at them will be necessary. *snicker*
GN all.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:38 pmYou no more served in Vietnam than Barfly.
Comment by Dr. Dog
If you were in my outfit, you would have never come back from the first mission, would have died of fright or taken an M-16 to the center of your forehead. Chickenshits like you had a very short life expectancy.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:39 pmyellow-dog; why do you impugn the service of veterans, but refuse to serve yourself? You are a coward and a pussy. You called me a liar about my military service, and that of other posters. It is YOU who is the coward. Upside00, Wayne, or myself would make you eat your words & our medals.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:39 pmPretty, I am thinking you know WAY too much about trailer culture.
Comment by JPark
It’s where you pick up women.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:39 pmPretty, I am thinking you know WAY too much about trailer culture.
Really brings up the good ol’ days memories for you, doesnt it hammerhead?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:39 pmyellow-dog; why do you impugn the service of veterans, but refuse to serve yourself?
Comment by Uncle Ho
I’m not impugning the service of anybody who actually served.
I’m calling out those liberals who claim to support this country, but belittle those who serve and refuse to serve themselves.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:41 pmIt’s where you pick up women.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
Yea, I saw your mom there.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:42 pmNow what did she say her job was again?
Oh yea. Lot Lizard.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:42 pmWho is belittling service? Oh, that’s right!!!! Bush is. Veterans are no longer cannon fodder so they are no good to him.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:43 pmWayne, or myself would make you eat your words & our medals.
Comment by Uncle Ho
My medals ended up flung over the White House fence, but Thanks for the comment. We do have a couple of wienies here, Too bad they can’t pass the Don’t ask/Don’t tell test.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:43 pmYea, I saw your mom there.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
You saw her just like you served in the military. (chuckle)
August 8th, 2007 at 10:43 pmHowever, scoffing at them will be necessary. *snicker*
Krackel was made with peanut butter and chocolate and then toasted at 350 degrees for ten minutes.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:43 pmPretty, you are less than clever. And pretty pointless. Kinda small, if you ask me.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:43 pmDr. Dog that doesn’t make any sense. I think Mr. Ho’s question gotcha.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:44 pmBingo, Bartlebee, she couldn’t make it as a streetwalker so she ended up knocking on semi doors.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:44 pmMy medals ended up flung over the White House fence, but Thanks for the comment.
Comment by upside00
What medal did you allegedly get?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:44 pm#351: What lies are you referring to?
1. The claim that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction at the time of the invasion.
2. The claim that Mohammad Atta met with Iraqi government officials in Vienna.
3. The claim that Saddam Hussein tried to buy aluminum tubes for nuclear weapons production.
4. The claim that there was a relationship between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.
5. The claim that attacking Iraq was part of a “global war on terror.”
6. The claim that the war would be a “cakewalk” and that it would last no more than six months.
7. The claim that we had found biological weapons labs in Iraq.
8. The claim that Saddam Hussein had “kicked out” the U.N. weapons inspectors.
9. The claim that Saddam Hussein “had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.”
10. The claim that Saddam Hussein tried to buy uranium from Niger.
I know, I know. The truth has a liberal bias. It’s very unfair, and it must be frustrating to you to be so horribly, horribly wrong.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:45 pm“You saw her just like you served in the military. (chuckle)”
Says the guy that “served” in Korea. What a joke, Jakey.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:45 pmYou saw her just like you served in the military. (chuckle)
Comment by Dr. Hog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
I never said I served in the military you inbred twit.
As for your mom, you’re right. I mean, I only caught a glimspe of her before, you know, she went to work…
August 8th, 2007 at 10:45 pmBoy! Only 12% of the military is of the democratic persuasion and KKKarl did everything in his power to “cage” our military overseas in the 2004 and 2006 elections. Geez, he is the next best thing next to sliced bread for the Democrats.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:45 pmBingo, Bartlebee, she couldn’t make it as a streetwalker so she ended up knocking on semi doors.
Comment by JPark
This is my mother you are talking about.
TP, ban these trolls.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:45 pmComment by michael — August 8, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
I cannot show things to a blind man. Open your eyes and your ears and you might see and hear what we have all been screaming about for the past 7 years.
If not, there’s always “The Google.” Do your own homework.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:46 pmI never said I served in the military you inbred twit.
As for your mom, you’re right. I mean, I only caught a glimspe of her before, you know, she went to work…
Comment by BARTLEBEE
I know you didn’t serve in the military. You’re a liberal.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:46 pmUpside00; What part of Nam were you in? I was a Navy corpsman, 3rd MarDiv, I Corps(Indian country). If yellow dog were in my outfit, he’d be killed the 1st day out, either from Mr. Charles in front, or the grunts from behind him.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:46 pmI agree, Dr. Dog!!! I will let TP decide who the trolls are. By the way Jake, you have been banned at least twice and I have never been banned. You want to swing the big d!ck, you better be able to back it up.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:47 pmKKKarl did everything in his power to “cage†our military overseas in the 2004 and 2006 elections.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Post the link, or it’s a lie. Your choice.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:47 pm“If you trolls can’t see what the current President of OUR country is doing to it’s own people, then, there is no hope for you. You will get what you have allowed him to do. Then what are you going to do, cry “Foulâ€? You don’t have that right anymore.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007″
Stop with your rhetoric Jeannie? Just what is he doing?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:48 pmI know you didn’t serve in the military. You’re a liberal.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
Actually, technically anyway, I’m a republican.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:48 pmI agree, Dr. Dog!!! I will let TP decide who the trolls are.
Comment by JPark
I have emailed your posts and that of others to TP and filed a complaint. You are a troll and you should be banned.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:48 pmI am so tired of the liberals who think if somone served in Iraq you can disagree with them, unless of course they are pro war which 95% of the iraq war vets are. When a vet stands up for the war somehow its ok to disagree with them, you are only evil if you dare disagree with the anti-war vet. sorry folks, you dog dont hunt. Only a non-thinking fool would buy what you are selling.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:49 pm#392: I know you didn’t serve in the military. You’re a liberal.
Can you say “nonsequitur”?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:49 pmJake, I am so thrilled that you have not put me on your Buscemi list!!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:50 pmSo what do you think they pay this troll here guys? 4.00, 5.00 bucks an hour?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:50 pm“TP is a lost cause anymore.
Comment by Zooey — August 8, 2007″
With your ignorant rhetoric, it surely is!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI have emailed your posts and that of others to TP and filed a complaint. You are a troll and you should be banned.
Comment by Dr. Dog
They ban trolls who slander and smear veterans too, a$$hat.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:50 pm#399: I am so tired of the liberals who think if somone served in Iraq you can disagree with them, unless of course they are pro war which 95% of the iraq war vets are{.]
You have a link for that fascinating statistic, there, bad boy?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:51 pmSo what do you think they pay this troll here guys?
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Talking to yourself?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:51 pm“I am so tired of the liberals who think if somone served in Iraq you can disagree with them, unless of course they are pro war which 95% of the iraq war vets are. When a vet stands up for the war somehow its ok to disagree with them, you are only evil if you dare disagree with the anti-war vet. sorry folks, you dog dont hunt. Only a non-thinking fool would buy what you are selling.”
I am stupider for reading your post and may God have mercy on your soul.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:52 pm“It may be a waste of time, but, when something happens to them like their email disappearing or their phones are tapped, they will have no recourse except to say that we told them so. Then, when they do crawl out of the basment and want our help, we will be there to help them, ’cause, that’s just the kind of people we are.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007″
You’re really not that stupid Jeannie, are you?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:52 pmThey ban trolls who slander and smear veterans too, a$$hat.
Comment by Wayne
You and your ilk should watch yourself then.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:52 pmI am so tired of the liberals who think if somone served in Iraq you can disagree with them, unless of course they are pro war which 95% of the iraq war vets are. When a vet stands up for the war somehow its ok to disagree with them, you are only evil if you dare disagree with the anti-war vet. sorry folks, you dog dont hunt. Only a non-thinking fool would buy what you are selling.
Comment by Mike D — August 8, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
Notice the blatant illiteracy. The poor grammatics and juvenile wording?
This is our current mascot, Dr Dog.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:53 pmWhat is with this mini-outbreak of trolls. It is like herpes…they come with no warning.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:53 pmI am stupid
Comment by JPark
Now you’re getting it!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:53 pm“You and your ilk should watch yourself then.”
Der
August 8th, 2007 at 10:53 pmThis is my mother you are talking about.
TP, ban these trolls.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
F*ck your mother. You shit all over veterans on this site.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:54 pmWhat is with this mini-outbreak of trolls. It is like herpes…they come with no warning.
Comment by JPark
I know it. You showed up out of nowhere.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:54 pmNice context, Dr. Dog. It is good to see a troll with horrible ethics. Not surprising…
August 8th, 2007 at 10:54 pm“#351: What lies are you referring to?
1. The claim that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction at the time of the invasion.
2. The claim that Mohammad Atta met with Iraqi government officials in Vienna.
3. The claim that Saddam Hussein tried to buy aluminum tubes for nuclear weapons production.
4. The claim that there was a relationship between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.
5. The claim that attacking Iraq was part of a “global war on terror.â€
6. The claim that the war would be a “cakewalk†and that it would last no more than six months.
7. The claim that we had found biological weapons labs in Iraq.
8. The claim that Saddam Hussein had “kicked out†the U.N. weapons inspectors.
9. The claim that Saddam Hussein “had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.â€
10. The claim that Saddam Hussein tried to buy uranium from Niger.
I know, I know. The truth has a liberal bias. It’s very unfair, and it must be frustrating to you to be so horribly, horribly wrong.
Comment by Jim — August 8, 2007″
And someone admitted to these lies or is this more liberal hysteria?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:55 pmF*ck your mother. You shit all over veterans on this site.
Comment by Zooey
It’s not I who have done the sh*ting, but you lefties who slander the troops.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:55 pmDr. Dog, I have been here for a long time…you, however are nothing but a canker.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:55 pmComment by michael — August 8, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
Please refer to comment #386 since you can’t seem to see nor hear the truth about anything. Or, do your own research.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:55 pmWhat is with this mini-outbreak of trolls. It is like herpes…they come with no warning.
Comment by JPark
Trust me. Its only ONE troll.
Its a UNI-Troll.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:56 pm“It’s not I who have done the sh*ting, but you lefties who slander the troops”
I don’t see that much but you are not a troop and never have been so how exactly is that an insult to you, chickenhawk?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:56 pmNice context, Dr. Dog. It is good to see a troll with horrible ethics. Not surprising…
Comment by JPark
You have been making troll comments all night. You haven’t made any valid points to this discussion. You are just trying to hijack it with your outlandish comments, like those about my mom. TP should be banning you soon.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:56 pmyellow-dog; you ARE besmiching the service of veterans, while criticizing those who do NOT serve. Have you looked in the mirror lately? You are in effect criticizing yourself for not signing up for the military, you can remedy that, enlist or shut up!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:56 pm“I cannot show things to a blind man. Open your eyes and your ears and you might see and hear what we have all been screaming about for the past 7 years.
If not, there’s always “The Google.†Do your own homework.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007″
No Jeannie, you need to show proof otherwise everybody will realize your comments are all rhetoric!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:57 pmAnybody want to take bets on when Mikey asks his next stupid question?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:57 pmI think its time to light this sucker up, with some mike-mikes, we got some sand ni**as who need a real ass-whoopin’. Turn that f*cker into a glass parking lot.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:57 pmthey are pro war which 95% of the iraq war vets are.
Comment by Mike D
Links, proof, because you are full of it
Military times polls show only 35% support the Iraq fiasco.
According to my son and brother-in-law currently there, it is probably less.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:57 pmTrust me. Its only ONE troll.
Its a UNI-Troll.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Thanks for admiting it.
I knew you were 5 trolls in 1.
Get a life, dickwad.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pmThat was close Mikey. Demanding someone do your homework for you is so close to being a question. I will give you a pass this time but it is only a matter of minutes.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pmThere is one thing that I am not Michael, and that would be stupid. Remember what you God Rove said about educated people.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pm“Thanks for admiting it.
I knew you were 5 trolls in 1.
Get a life, dickwad.”
Wow, is it that tough to graduate 5th grade?
August 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pmyou can remedy that, enlist or shut up!
Comment by Uncle Ho
Take your own advice, hypocrite.
August 8th, 2007 at 10:59 pmI know you are but what am I???
August 8th, 2007 at 10:59 pmMillitary times is published by garnett, the same folks that bring you USAtoday……that rag means nothing
August 8th, 2007 at 10:59 pmDr. Dog, no, he does not need to take his own advice because YOU are the one supporting the war without ACTUALLY supporting the war.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:00 pmKKKarl did everything in his power to “cage†our military overseas in the 2004 and 2006 elections.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Post the link, or it’s a lie. Your choice.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
First this and then
August 8th, 2007 at 11:00 pmthis. I have about 2000 other reports to reference.
Ok, Mike D. Because they aren’t Fox News? Toad.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:00 pm#432: Somehow its ok for you folks to disparge patterson, who is a war vet, but its not ok to do the same to your boy stolz who is also a war vet. Why the special rules for you?
This is a straw man. No one is making this argument.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:00 pm“I cannot show things to a blind man. Open your eyes and your ears and you might see and hear what we have all been screaming about for the past 7 years.
If not, there’s always “The Google.†Do your own homework.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007″
You mean 387 don’t you? Well I’ll refer you to #418 and await your response.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:01 pmAnd it is Gannett.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:01 pmThe bell has rung. This one is a decisive victory for the trolls. Congratulations trolls and those who feed them.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:01 pmAs a fairly disinterested 3rd party, I think it the best way to deal with Dr. Dog would be to completely ignore him.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:01 pmUSAtoday is a liberal rag, its hardly unbiased, so to use the likes of it to make your 35% claim is bogus. You yourself have to know its untrue.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:02 pm#435: Millitary times is published by garnett, the same folks that bring you USAtoday……that rag means nothing[.]
Right–the only honest media outlets are the ones that spread conservative propaganda.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:02 pmMikey, take your Benzo.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:02 pm#442: The bell has rung. This one is a decisive victory for the trolls. Congratulations trolls and those who feed them.
As a fairly disinterested 3rd party, I think it the best way to deal with Dr. Dog would be to completely ignore him.
You’re probably right. I can’t help myself.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:03 pmJPark; yellow-dog’s mother as a truck-stop skank would explain a lot. She dropped him on head from the cab of the truck onto the ground…. massive brain damage.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:03 pmYeah, Mike, the Trib is SOOOOO liberal.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:03 pmThe bell has rung. This one is a decisive victory for the trolls. Congratulations trolls and those who feed them.
Comment by bilbobaggins
You didn’t need to say it. We already knew that.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:03 pmThat is so sad Uncle Ho!!!! I know he wants his kids to take after him but does he need to damage their brains to do it?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:05 pmDr. Dog, you have never won anything but a dollar or two on the scratch off bought at your local trailerpark general store.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:06 pmNo one has yet addresses why its ok to slam buzz but not your boystolz, both are war vets, once again i ask, why the special rules for your boy? Or is that too hard of a question, one you cant answer by calling people toads or trolls. C’mon, lets have a real answer to a real question here. Why cant we slam Stolz but its ok for you to slam Buzz?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:06 pmWell, Buzz never actually saw action. Is that clear enough, Mikey?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:07 pmSee, Stolz has seen it in person…do you get it now?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:08 pmNo one has yet addresses why its ok to slam buzz but not your boystolz
Comment by Mike D
You haven’t provided proof to your claim 95% of the troops in Iraq support the Iraq war……..
August 8th, 2007 at 11:09 pmLets see it.
yellow-dog; For the LAST GD TIME, I already did my bit for king & country in Vetnam. WTF part of that do you NOT understand? You really DO need an emergency enema……..with a hand grenade. Wayne, do you care to volunteer for that?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:09 pm95% Wayne? They really claimed that?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:10 pm#453: The fact that you keep repeating this doesn’t make it any less a straw man.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:11 pmI havent posted a url for the 95% claim, and wrking on the research, now once again i ask you, why is it ok to slam buzz but not to slam stolz? It would seem that is something you could answer without a url, isnt it?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:11 pmSo why is no one yet to answer it?
If that was aimed at me I can give you the percentage of the stupid that buy scratchoffs.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:12 pmMike, again, do you not read? Buzz has not seen action. To attack someone who has while sitting back in Washington is really Bush league.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:12 pm#460: I havent posted a url for the 95% claim, and wrking on the research, now once again i ask you, why is it ok to slam buzz but not to slam stolz?
Impressive–two dishonest claims:
1. That 95% of the troops support the Iraq War.
2. That anyone here is claiming it’s OK to criticize Patterson but not Stolz.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:13 pmListen to Dr. Dog, calling himself Mike D (Get it? Mike “Dog”)?
He’s a busy little albeit pathetic little troll.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:13 pm#464: He’s a busy little albeit pathetic little troll.
Yes. I suppose it’s not very sporting to kick him around, but I can’t help myself.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:14 pmBartlebee, Jake is VERY ambitious.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:14 pm“Oh give me a break. You do not play with the trolls just because TP doesn’t have a registration system. You play with the trolls because it makes you feel witty and smart. When in actuality, all it does is lower yourself to their level.” – bilbobaggins
Actually, it’s all three, my dear Bilbo.
I promise you, if TP gets off its behind and implements some anti-trolling mechanisms, I will thereafter play only nice.
Meantime, when the mood takes me, I’ll reserve my right to kick them around at will.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:14 pmWhat i am claiming is you use the excuse of Stolz being a war vet as a reason that no one can question him, yet you never extend that to a war vet that doesnt agree with you.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:15 pmWTF part of that do you NOT understand?
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 8, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
All of it. He’s an idiot, and paid troll hack.
He sits here all day, every day, and badgers left wing posters.
Who invariably show him to be a complete fool.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:15 pm95% Wayne? They really claimed that?
Comment by JPark
Yes he did:
I am so tired of the liberals who think if somone served in Iraq you can disagree with them, unless of course they are pro war which 95% of the iraq war vets are. When a vet stands up for the war somehow its ok to disagree with them, you are only evil if you dare disagree with the anti-war vet. sorry folks, you dog dont hunt. Only a non-thinking fool would buy what you are selling.
Comment by Mike D — August 8, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
And he is too dishonest to provide proof to his claim
August 8th, 2007 at 11:16 pmBartlebee, Jake is VERY ambitious.
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
Yes.
So was Rudolph Hoess.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:16 pmDarn right gorn. It is nice of bilbo to feel above all that but I am happy to rip trolls new ones late at night. It isn’t like anybody cares about OT at 10pm.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:16 pm#468: What i am claiming is you use the excuse of Stolz being a war vet as a reason that no one can question him, yet you never extend that to a war vet that doesnt agree with you.
Where do you see anyone claiming that “no one can question” Stolz? Answer: no one has said that. This is still a straw man, despite your repeating it for, what, the fifth time?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:16 pm“What i am claiming is you use the excuse of Stolz being a war vet as a reason that no one can question him, yet you never extend that to a war vet that doesnt agree with you.”
Are you blind? Soltz saw it. Buzz saw it from 20,000 feet. Yeah, it is the same.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:17 pmthis for one
#
msnbc welcomes a man on to smear the reputation of a soldier who served his country in iraq and who is telling the truth. msnbc should be ashamed.
Comment by joe cantwell — August 8, 2007 @ 8:01 pm
August 8th, 2007 at 11:18 pmHehe, Mike D. Back up your 95% claim.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:18 pmSo any pilots that are against the war dont count with you guys? LMAO
August 8th, 2007 at 11:18 pmMike!!! Back up your 95% claim!!! By the way, how many pilots have died?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:19 pm“He’s an idiot, and paid troll hack.”
Then the RNC isn’t getting much for their money. All he does is convert more people to non-Republitards.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:21 pmSo any pilots that are against the war dont count with you guys? LMAO
Comment by Mike D
More strawmen and no link?
prove your claim, liar.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:21 pmActually, it’s all three, my dear Bilbo.
I promise you, if TP gets off its behind and implements some anti-trolling mechanisms, I will thereafter play only nice.
Meantime, when the mood takes me, I’ll reserve my right to kick them around at will.
Comment by gorn by any other name
————————————–
First of all:
I go away for an hour and the posts double, yet precious few are about the subject of the thread.
Zooey advised me not to feed the troll.
That is precisely what is happening now.
We need to take this site back. I, too, have been biding my time for the anti-troll software to kick in.
(WHICH IS THE 16TH OF THIS MONTH, TP!!)
I am just saddened that we’ve let yet another troll take over our forum of ideas and discourse.
Can we please go back to the discussion?
Thanks. :)
August 8th, 2007 at 11:22 pmJon Soltz, an Iraq war veteran who served as a Captain during Operation Iraqi Freedom deploying logistics convoys
August 8th, 2007 at 11:22 pmWOW! he delivered potatos
That is weak Mike D. You really rolled over on that one.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:23 pm“who need a real ass-whoopin’. Turn that f*cker into a glass parking lot.
Comment by ForTruth — August 8, 2007″
Think you’re man enough?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:23 pm95% prowar Ivets? Talk about bullf*cking sh*t. I don’t think so. From my personal experience, someone who has seen war up close and personal don’t EVER want to see another. 95% antiwar is more believable.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:23 pmtrueblue, it is 10:23 Central time. Honestly, how many people are here to talk about the topics?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:24 pmNice try there Mikey. Heh. Not my problem that TP deleted some of the comments.
Oh, by the way, did you do your own homework or not? ‘Cause if you didn’t, I might just have to put you on my Ignore List.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:24 pmMikey, are YOU man enough?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:24 pm“According to my son and brother-in-law currently there, it is probably less.
Comment by Wayne — August 8, 2007″
Wayne I thought you took your toys and went home, again?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:25 pmGN All. 6 am come early around these parts.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:26 pm“Demanding someone do your homework for you is so close to being a question. I will give you a pass this time but it is only a matter of minutes.
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007″
I didn’t make the statement, she did!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:26 pmMikey, I thought you took your toys (as weak as they are) and went home, again? I made a question out of a statement!!!! I rock!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:26 pmWhy do you bother, Mikey?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:26 pmSeriously, I will try to find the real number on support. I think mine is a lot closer than yours, I have also been trying to find out what your hero Stolz did that was so heroic. He served, for that I thank him, but from what i can find on him he’s hardly Rambo.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:27 pmBut i know to you folks ANYONE that stands up against Bush is a hero…..
BDS will destroy you
“We need to take this site back.” – trueblue
I’m with you TB, but it’s not exactly a new idea. It’s been tried before and failed. You can’t get full cooperation when there is no possible way to communicate with 100% of “genuine” posters. Without a technological solution, we will get nowhere.
“I, too, have been biding my time for the anti-troll software to kick in.”
Do tell! Has TP announced something? Where’s the link? That would be exciting news if true.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:27 pm“There is one thing that I am not Michael, and that would be stupid. Remember what you God Rove said about educated people.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007″
Until you can back up your STUPID accusations with verifiable proof, my comment stands!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:27 pmSeriously, Mike D. You won’t find actual numbers because enlisted man rarely get a chance to say what they want. And you STILL won’t find anything like 95%.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:28 pmFrom May to September 2003, Soltz served as a Captain during Operation Iraqi Freedom, deploying logistics convoys with the 1st Armored Division
August 8th, 2007 at 11:29 pmWOW! 4 months in country just like your other hero, John ‘ricebutt’ Kerry.
You folks are a hoot!
I am all for anti-troll software…until then they are a juicy target.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:29 pm“From May to September 2003, Soltz served as a Captain during Operation Iraqi Freedom, deploying logistics convoys with the 1st Armored Division
WOW! 4 months in country just like your other hero, John ‘ricebutt’ Kerry.
You folks are a hoot!”
Wow, that is 4 months of hell LONGER than you.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:30 pm#485, #489: A macho pissing contest. Nice debating strategy, fellows.
Yawn.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:30 pmWhile Buzzy flew overhead, out of range of all weapons. You might want to find a new hero, Mikey.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:31 pmHi gorn,
Last year we staged a one day walk out on TP.
Told them why on the ThinkFast thread.
It was cool. We got their attention.
But now Faiz has promised registration by the 16th of this month.
If it doesn’t happen, we’re gonna go elsewhere. Do you want in?
:)
August 8th, 2007 at 11:32 pm“WOW! 4 months in country just like your other hero, John ‘ricebutt’ Kerry. You folks are a hoot!” – Mike D
It’s disgusting and shameful how universally disrespectful and dismissive the Republitards are of the service of anyone who doesn’t agree with their political agenda.
The rest of us, the real patriots, are respectful of the service of others, regardless of political affiliation.
Very sad, but very telling.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:32 pmi am NOT a war hero, i dont pretend to be one either. Thing with you folks is ANY vet that speaks out against the war MUST be a war hero.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:32 pmSo, trueblue, what happens when I am too offensive? Maybe that would be good for TP, I don’t know.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:33 pm‘Nuff for me. Signing off.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:33 pmHi JPark,
I believe you were part of our subversive non-TP day.
:)
How are you?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:33 pm“It would seem that is something you could answer without a url, isnt it?
So why is no one yet to answer it?
Comment by Mike D — August 8, 2007″
These dopes couldn’t tell you who was buried in Kennedy’s grave.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:34 pm“There is one thing that I am not Michael, and that would be stupid. Remember what you God Rove said about educated people.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007″
Until you can back up your STUPID accusations with verifiable proof, my comment stands!
I’m gonna pull a Daryll and pray for your soul.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:34 pmBuzz was trusted with the nuclear footbal by your boy Clinton. Was Stolz trusted with anything more important than a truck?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:34 pmAnd you suck up to any veteran that supports Bush. Granted, there aren’t very many.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:34 pm“If it doesn’t happen, we’re gonna go elsewhere. Do you want in?” – trueblue
Sign me up!!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:34 pmThanks for the info.
So, trueblue, what happens when I am too offensive? Maybe that would be good for TP, I don’t know.
Comment by JPark
Define “too offensive.”
;)
August 8th, 2007 at 11:34 pmUm, Mike D. No officer is “trusted” with the nuclear football. They have no say over the button.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:34 pmI don’t know true, read my posts :)
August 8th, 2007 at 11:35 pmIf there were no trolls around I would be very vanilla though.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:36 pmParky,
August 8th, 2007 at 11:37 pmDid Buzz carry that football, yes or no?
Did Stolz carry it? yes or no?
Sorry to put it in so simple terms, but trying to get you to answer the question I actually ask.
“Mikey, are YOU man enough?
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007″
Yup! Want to try me?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:37 pmActually, I would get bored and leave for another blog. There is only so much backslapping and agreement I can take.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:37 pm#503Comment by trueblue — August 8, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
Last year we staged a one day walk out on TP.
Told them why on the ThinkFast thread.
It was cool. We got their attention.
But now Faiz has promised registration by the 16th of this month.
If it doesn’t happen, we’re gonna go elsewhere. Do you want in?:)
I’m in! In fact we should make a week.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:37 pmMikey, I am not gay, but thanks.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:37 pmTime for me to hit the rack. JPark, you have the conn. Please continue the whack-a-troll into the night. Wayne, upside, trueblue, Zooey, feel free to join in. Find the bastards and pile on!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:38 pmI don’t think I’d ever describe you as vanilla, JPark.
You’ve got a kick to you.
:)
Gorn,
You’ve got it. The countdown is on.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:38 pm“GN All. 6 am come early around these parts.
Comment by Jeannie See — August 8, 2007″
Bailing out before you could provide facts to backup your dopey comments? Not surprised. That’s how most liberals evade challenges!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:39 pmMike D. Without researching I have no idea but I am not sure what having a suitcase cuffed to your arm does for you. Does it make him brave, maybe. He STILL hasn’t seen a warzone.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:39 pmLOL, thanks true. I think trolls should be banned until 10 eastern and then all bets are off.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:40 pmWelcome aboard, Merlin!
(Wow, this whole recruiting thing is a lot easier than the Armed Forces right now.)
:D
August 8th, 2007 at 11:40 pm“#
Time for me to hit the rack. JPark, you have the conn. Please continue the whack-a-troll into the night. Wayne, upside, trueblue, Zooey, feel free to join in. Find the bastards and pile on!
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 8, 2007″
I’ll take them all on at once and not break out in a sweat!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:40 pmParky,
August 8th, 2007 at 11:40 pmHe told truck drivers where to deliver potatos, quite the combat vet.
Mikey, are you stupid? Wait, I think I know the answer…you don’t have a job!!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:40 pmMikey, you have never taken on anybody.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:41 pmNo, I’m not stupid, I dont think dispatching trucks drivers makes you a combat hero……
August 8th, 2007 at 11:41 pmMike D. I can’t say if he was in the sh!t. But he was in Iraq during the current conflict. I am guessing he was under fire more than once. Pussy Buzz never was.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:42 pmMike D. I was not saying that to you, it was to Mikey, question man.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:42 pmNo one ever tried to shoot his plane down? Interesting that YOU somehow know he was never shot at.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:43 pmESP?
“Mikey, you have never taken on anybody.
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007″
Let’s go? You and me? Or are you going to go running off to bed like Jeannie?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:43 pmLOL, thanks true. I think trolls should be banned until 10 eastern and then all bets are off.
Comment by JPark
——————–
Makes for an interesting night, doesn’t it?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:43 pmI’d be here a lot more often if that was the case.
Mikey, I would beat your ass with two hands tied behind my back. I am really not afraid of a guy that adds a question mark to every statement.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:44 pmmichael,
Isn’t your specialty stalking women on this site?
Or have you finally accepted your sexuality?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:44 pmMike D. Bombers fly at 40+ thousand feet now. No Iraqi anti-aircraft weapon could POSSIBLY hit him. Do you want to tell me how many jets the Iraqis knocked down? I can tell you…zero.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:46 pmTrue, I just think it is fun late at night.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:46 pm“Mikey, I would beat your ass with two hands tied behind my back. I am really not afraid of a guy that adds a question mark to every statement.
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007 ”
Then let’s go? Pick a subject? Stop embarrassing yourself in front of the other public school graduates!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:46 pmtrueblue, don’t say that, I don’t want a Mikey stalker. I know he is gay but…
August 8th, 2007 at 11:47 pmOh, you are talking about debating again? Haven’t you had your a$$ handed to you enough?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:47 pmBy the way, I will take public school grads over home schooled “grads” like you, anyday.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:48 pm“#
trueblue, don’t say that, I don’t want a Mikey stalker. I know he is gay but…
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007″
I knew you would change the subject. Chicken sh*t!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:48 pmDumba$$, I didn’t change the subject, you just have a small mind.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:49 pmTrue, I just think it is fun late at night.
Comment by JPark
Boy, I wish Zooey was here so I wouldn’t have to make the risque comment on that one….
:}
August 8th, 2007 at 11:50 pm“I didn’t change the subject, you just have a small mind.
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007″
Then why haven’t you picked a subject yet?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:52 pmI know he is gay but…
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007″
I knew you would change the subject. Chicken sh*t!
Comment by michael
He made an aside comment to me.
Not you; you self-centered, mysognist, a$$bag.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:52 pm“Boy, I wish Zooey was here so I wouldn’t have to make the risque comment on that one….
:}
Comment by trueblue — August 8, 2007″
I do also! I could make her look as dumb as JPark!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:53 pmBoy, I wish Zooey was here so I wouldn’t have to make the risque comment on that one….
:}
Comment by trueblue — August 8, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
Zooey is out of here. F*ck TP.
Y’all f*cking trolls can have this shithouse blog.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:53 pmMy topic…”Bizzzzuness Ethics”…whoops, that was for Jakey. My topic is…”Why does Mikey ask such stupid-a$$ questions?”
August 8th, 2007 at 11:54 pmHow about the two of you (true & park) against me?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:54 pmMikey, Zooey owns you.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:54 pmSubject:
michael is a frightened, most likely abused, father figure seeking, growth stunted man-boy.
Discuss.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:54 pmI am not into threesomes you perv.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:55 pm“Y’all f*cking trolls can have this shithouse blog.
Comment by Zooey — August 8, 2007″
Just like park & true, zooey is no match for us Conservatives!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:56 pmOf all the nights I’m awake to slay trolls, Zooey is fed up.
Just my luck.
:(
August 8th, 2007 at 11:56 pmLOL, sure, Mikey. Can you possibly ask me a stupid question?
August 8th, 2007 at 11:56 pm1. “buzz” is airforce ‘nough said
August 8th, 2007 at 11:56 pm2. isn’t there a real american hero that allready goes buy “buzz”
I know it, true. And I am ready for bed. Mikey is going to own TP. He can ask retarded questions all he wants.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:57 pmHow about the two of you (true & park) against me?
Comment by michael
Sounds like he wants a 3-way, JPark.
(Did you just shudder, too?)
August 8th, 2007 at 11:58 pm“#
michael is a frightened, most likely abused, father figure seeking, growth stunted man-boy.
Comment by trueblue — August 8, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
#
I am not into threesomes you perv.
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007″
I hope you both realize what scared children you come off as in running away from a debate with a Conservative. Just like zooey!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:58 pmI see he shied away from me at the end. Kind of a tool.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:58 pm“Sounds like he wants a 3-way, JPark.
(Did you just shudder, too?)”
To say I got ill is an understatement.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:59 pmThe 16th can’t arrive fast enough for me.
Then we may perhaps have actual discourse.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:59 pm“I hope you both realize what scared children you come off as in running away from a debate with a Conservative. Just like zooey!”
I hope you realize what a child you are. I didn’t run away from you, did I? You ignored me when I challenged you. But that is nothing new for you. You are such a wimp.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:00 amYou asked for a subject, michael.
I gave you one.
Let’s discuss.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:00 amNice work, Michael!
Show these Libs a thing or two about being a Real American!
August 9th, 2007 at 12:00 amWhat is the 16th, true?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:01 amLOL, Gregory, you are such a characature of yourself.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:01 am“And I am ready for bed.
Comment by JPark — August 8, 2007″
I did predict this! A typical liberal who runs off to bed to avoid a debate. I will look for you here every day just like I do for zooey. And I will challenge everything you say. Better change your screen name. It might save you some embarrassment!
August 9th, 2007 at 12:01 ammichael,
You are the most stupid thing I have ever come across in my entire life. If you hadn’t had EVERYTHING handed to you in your life, you’d be sleeping in the gutter — and you know it.
Don’t come around crying when this government takes everything you own, and you have no way of finding out why. We’ll remember the likes of you when this government crashes down.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:01 amMikey, nobody is afraid to debate you. As a matter of fact we do every time you show yourself…I don’t know why, but we do. You seem to want to do in private. It is a little creepy, if you ask me.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:03 amJPark,
16th -
When Faiz promised registration – to cut out some of the troll droppings.
(Not Elvis’ death anniversary or anything…)
August 9th, 2007 at 12:03 amUgh, I will be booted on the 17th, true.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:04 am16th -
When Faiz promised registration – to cut out some of the troll droppings.
(Not Elvis’ death anniversary or anything…)
Comment by trueblue — August 9, 2007 @ 12:03 am
Don’t hold your breath, true. If they gave a shit about this blog, they’d look in on a thread once in a while and notice what’s going on around here.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:05 amNo way, JPark!
You wear the white hat, remember?
(Well, it may be a bit ecru, or beige, really, but that’s why I like you!)
;)
August 9th, 2007 at 12:06 amYou are kind of pissed, aren’t you, Zoo? :)
August 9th, 2007 at 12:07 amI have to be an optimist right now, Zooey.
I don’t want to have to abandon all of my cyber-friends just yet.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:08 amI will look for you here every day just like I do for zooey.
Michael, isn’t this a silly thing to say? It seems to indicate a need to get a grip and a life if your wish is to fart around as some sort of keyboard stalker whne you could be doing something far more magical. I suggest getting out of doors. Maybe a little kayaking, biking, or one of my favorites – rolling down a hill till dizzy then looking for shapes in clouds.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:08 amLOL, my hat is kinda grey and mostly it has blue writing. If they become Koslike it is not a good thing. Have you read that blog? It is like looking in a mirror. Nobody has a thought that is other than what Markos would think.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:08 am“You are the most stupid thing I have ever come across in my entire life. If you hadn’t had EVERYTHING handed to you in your life, you’d be sleeping in the gutter — and you know it.
Don’t come around crying when this government takes everything you own, and you have no way of finding out why. We’ll remember the likes of you when this government crashes down.
Comment by Zooey — August 9, 2007″
zooey, we all know who the stupid one is and her name starts with the last letter of the alphabet! Everything handed to me? I was raised in Hells Kitchen in New York and worked for everything I have today which is pretty impressive! And I’m not going to stand by and let some dumb liberals take it from me to give to someone else who hasn’t earned it. Lots of guns here in case you and your fellow lefties are thinking about it.
The only way this government will crash is if we go down that idiotic road that you want us to. We are at war with people who want to kill us all and will spend the rest of their lives trying. But I wouldn’t expect a public school child like yourself to have enough insight to understand!
August 9th, 2007 at 12:09 amI am shocked…I tell you, shocked!!! Mikey writes more than two sentences!!! And it is to the one he stalks. Zoo, I feel for you.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:10 am“nobody is afraid to debate you.
Comment by JPark — August 9, 2007″
You won’t! True won’t! zooey won’t! Example. zooey, why did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:12 amWow, Zooey.
He’s also a paranoid, coked-out freak!
michael needs serious help.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:12 ammichael is a liar! Prove it! Y’all trolls want the vets to prove they served and trash them continuously — PROVE IT!
Oh yeah, I’m stupid because my name starts with a Z. Moron.
I’ve been toying with you since the day you started following me around. I bet you checked that email address I put up, didn’t you. Loser.
If you had a brain, you’d be dangerous. What’s your IQ?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:13 amMikey, you don’t even know what debate is. It doesn’t involve quoting Karl Rove over and over.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:13 amKKKarl did everything in his power to “cage†our military overseas in the 2004 and 2006 elections.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Post the link, or it’s a lie. Your choice.
Comment by Dr. Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
First this and then
this. I have about 2000 other reports to reference.
Why the heck does Dr. Dog vanish under the table whenever I give it a link?
I’m off to bed, heart stress test tomorrow. One of the trials of life after 62 (I am well past that now.).
August 9th, 2007 at 12:13 amHey, a$$bag michael,
If you knew what the F you were talking about, you’d ask the damn MA RESIDENT instead of Zooey!!
Stalker Much? I think so.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:14 amBy the way Mikey, Zoo owned you over a year ago or did you forget? I don’t think you did since you have wanted to sniff her panties ever since. Sicko.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:14 amzooey, why won’t you answer my question?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:14 amGood luck with the test Walt. Good health to you.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:15 amWhat’s your IQ?
Comment by Zooey
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I’m guessing room temp.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:15 amtrue, that post was invisible to Mikey. It made too much sense.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:15 am“zooey, why won’t you answer my question?”
Because she thinks you are a pathetic loser? Just guessing.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:17 am“By the way Mikey, Zoo owned you over a year ago or did you forget?
Comment by JPark — August 9, 2007″
Really? Want to remind me? I won’t hold my breath. I really feel like I’m dealing with a bunch of public school 12th graders. In zooey’s case 6th grader.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:17 amHe keeps focusing on Zooey, doesn’t he, JPark?
He was sooooo confident that he could “Take us on”,
(throw up in my mouth)
yet he continues to prey upon Zooey.
Serious mental illness.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:18 amWell, true, room temp is almost average here in WI (it has been in the 90s lately) so I think you are being generous.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:18 amMikey, you really, honestly, want to tell me you are not obsessed with Zooey because she owned you? Come on.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:19 am“Because she thinks you are a pathetic loser? Just guessing.
Comment by JPark — August 9, 2007″
That’s her answer? I think it’s more like “I can’t, I don’t know the answer”! There is nothing wrong with saying I don’t know. She might learn about it in her 7th grade History class!
August 9th, 2007 at 12:19 amtrue, it is funny. Yeah, he knows we would and do destroy him every time we meet up with him but so does Zooey. He is sick.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:20 amNo, Mikey, I am going to go with…”You are a Dahmeresque psycho with no possible reason for living”.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:20 am“#
Mikey, you really, honestly, want to tell me you are not obsessed with Zooey because she owned you? Come on.
Comment by JPark — August 9, 2007″
And I asked you to refresh my memory, but you can’t! Feel stupid?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:21 amHi Michael. Sorry but I must have missed it. What’s your beef with public ed and where did you get the superior ed which allows for such simplistic thinking that would paint all public school grads with such disrespect/disdain? Did the public school kids beat you up regularly or what?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:21 amWere you too stoned Mikey? It was the time you kept asking her to debate you after she already owned you. You don’t remember?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:22 amWooohoooo, I want to say something pointless!!!! Death to Islamofascism!!!! I have no idea what it is but Rush says it!!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 12:23 amWell I’m off to enjoy a glass of wine since you public schoolers won’t answer any of my questions. You give the democratic party a really bad reputation which I thank you for!
August 9th, 2007 at 12:23 amIn zooey’s case 6th grader.
Comment by michael — August 9, 2007 @ 12:17 am
Why do you follow around someone you think is in the 6th grade, you f*cking pervert?
Does it get you all hot thinking about 11 year old ass? Maybe 11 year olds are just too small to get away from you, is that it?
I think the cops need to come to your house and take a look at your computer. Maybe talk to your step-daughter. Huh? Yeah, I think that’s a great idea.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:23 amGood night, Michael.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:24 amShorter Michael…”I am off to enjoy my crystal meth and I am going to mast^rbate while thinking about Zooey. Maybe I am going to go kill something too.” Ok, maybe not shorter but more truthful.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:24 amNo, I’m not stupid
Comment by Mike Dog — August 8, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
We’ll be the judge of that.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:25 amHey Michael! What about my questions?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:25 amdb, sorry, he doesn’t answer questions, he just asks them and insists on answers.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:27 amSorry, Zooey.
You shouldn’t be subjected to this sh#t.
We’ll talk somewhere else, until TP
***DOES THE RIGHT THING!!!***
G’Night, JPark.
It was fun sparring like the old days.
See you soon.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:28 amNight true, have a good one.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:29 amThanks, JPark.
:)
August 9th, 2007 at 12:30 amWhat lies are you referring to? Be specific and show proof? Don’t refer me to some dopey liberal site. Provide PROOF!
Comment by michael — August 8, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
————
SPIEGEL: One of the crucial bits of information the Bush administration used to justify the invasion was the supposed existence of mobile biological weapons laboratories. That came from a German BND source who was given the code- name “Curveball.” An offical investigation in the United States concluded that of all of the false statements that were made, this was the most damaging of all.
Drumheller: I had assured my German friends that it wouldn’t be in the speech. I really thought that I had put it to bed. I had warned the CIA deputy John McLaughlin that this case could be fabricated. The night before the speech, then CIA director George Tenet called me at home. I said: “Hey Boss, be careful with that German report. It’s supposed to be taken out. There are a lot of problems with that.” He said: “Yeah, yeah. Right. Dont worry about that.”
SPIEGEL: But it turned out to be the centerpiece in Powell’s presentation — and nobody had told him about the doubts.
(More…)
August 9th, 2007 at 12:41 amSPIEGEL: So the White House just ignored the fact that the whole story might have been untrue?
Drumheller: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy. Right before the war, I said to a very senior CIA officer: “You guys must have something else,” because you always think it’s the CIA. “There is some secret thing I don`t know.” He said: “No. But when we get to Baghdad, we are going to find warehouses full of stuff. Nobody is going to remember all of this.”
(More…)
August 9th, 2007 at 12:43 amTyler Drumheller is the former chief of the CIA’s Europe division.
The above is quoted from an interview at this link:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,462782,00.html
Hey, Michael. Here’s one of the lies by the Bushies we keep referring to.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:46 amSomeone commented that why doesn’t the White House (i.e. Clinton Admin) have a political test for those military officers who are assigned there.
This is the stupidest question posted here because it shows a complete lack of understanding of just why the military is supposed to be non-political.
Officers assigned to the White House, Congress, etc. are chosen on the basis of their qualifications for the positions they are assigned to. To use a political affiliation as a basis for these assignments would be not only a disaster in terms of getting the best qualified people, it would probably be illegal (the Democrats are arguing this very point re the firing of US District Attorneys, the 8 in question all being Republicans. At least Bill fired all 93 without discrimination as to their political affiliations).
To be assigned the duty of carrying the nuclear launch codes/orders for the President is one of the highest honors given to any military officer. Col. Patterson obviously was chosen because of his qualifications. This is something you cannot take away from him.
Patterson served in Bosnia; Soltz served in Iraq. Accept their service as is. Even I, who has been one of John Kerry’s biggest critics, acknowledge his military service in Vietnam (which did show bravery and ingenuity on several ocassions). I’ll leave it at that.
I wish bloggers here would show some signs of intelligence and knowledge about how things work, instead of just ranting and raving. I love a good rant, but it is hard to find a rational one here. Very disappointing for my first visit to this site.
Max Friedman, Vietnam/Cambodia journalist, 1970. Father of one of the first US soldiers to cross into Iraq, March, 2003, and damned proud of him and his service.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:50 amtest
My comments are being blocked. F*ck TP — eat shit and die.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:51 am“Officers assigned to the White House, Congress, etc. are chosen on the basis of their qualifications for the positions they are assigned to.”
You haven’t been paying attention for a few years, have you, sheep boy?
August 9th, 2007 at 12:56 amThey are blocking you Zooey? Well, I guess I am not going to stick around TP anymore, either.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:56 amThis is typical of conservatives they attack those who have served their country in combat because they disagree with them politically. Yet conservatives time and again do not serve in the wars they support.
August 9th, 2007 at 12:58 amTrolls win!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 1:10 amTrolls win!!!
Comment by Gregory of Nazianzus — August 9, 2007 @ 1:10 am
How can you be sure?
August 9th, 2007 at 1:11 amTrolls never win. They are still the miserable losers they are in real life. Get a shrink Gregory.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:14 amOr Mr P if your prefer.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:17 ammsnbc welcomes a man on to smear the reputation of a soldier who served his country in iraq and who is telling the truth. msnbc should be ashamed.
Comment by joe cantwell
the guy is on once a week. he’s eventually going to find some haters and much more WE NEED these idiots out there to remind us of the kind of people we’re up against.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:33 amWE NEED these idiots out there to remind us of the kind of people we’re up against.
Comment by old hack — August 9, 2007 @ 1:33 am
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Agreed. Soltz is an idiot.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:36 amPretty impressive namejack of Zooey. Almost convincing. Not.
August 9th, 2007 at 1:50 amTo JPark: About your “sheepboy” comment.
I have no idea what you are talking about, and neither do you.
Baa!!!
August 9th, 2007 at 2:06 amMaybe Patterson should re-enlist. I mean s and felons are allowed into the army, why not old geezers like him?
August 9th, 2007 at 2:34 amI’m a retarded 16 year old girl.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:25 amAnd I hate my mom.
She is a biatch.
She doesn’t know I blow the neighborhood boys while she waists time on the computer.
All these comments and so little knowledge throughout. Too many off you beleive what your wing feeds you, I don’t care if its left or right. Read, study, get informed. The fight in Iraq is still a fight worth fighting for, progress is being made, a solid future for the people is being established. I care little of what both of these wings say, they are focused on their political groups and funds “raised” for theirs “causes” which will last about a day after their party is elected into whatever office. Then the needs of the people take a backseat to career advancement.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:12 amThis is typical of liberals they attack those who have served their country in combat because they disagree with them politically.
August 9th, 2007 at 7:50 amThis is typical of liberals they attack those who have served their country in combat because they disagree with them politically.
Comment by chris — August 9, 2007 @ 7:50 am
You are suggesting that Patterson is a liberal?
August 9th, 2007 at 8:13 amTo the person who wants to know why the left hates the troops;
I am a liberal and a military wife, get off your high horse and open your eyes. The troops are being used for the administration’s financial gain, not for some noble reason. Do you think I enjoy living in fear that my husband could die for no other reason than greed?
You need a refresher course in the first amendment and a serious reality check.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:23 am#640 – that progress would be where besides in the minds and mouths of the right wing talking heads?
Electricity availability is near an all time low during the heat of summer. The Parliament has gone on a month long vacation, but not before the Sunnis pretty much quit. The Brits are ready to pull out leaving Basra and the south pretty much ripe pickings for Iranian takeover through their influence. And you’re hanging your hat on the idea al Maliki is going to step up to the plate?
There is a point where optimism turns into stupidity and I think we passed that a long time ago.
August 9th, 2007 at 8:56 amSorry, that should have been in reply to #639
August 9th, 2007 at 8:57 amWhy does the Left hate the troops?
Retired Chair Force officers don’t count as “the troops”.
August 9th, 2007 at 9:11 amthe trolls here sure are frustrated!
August 9th, 2007 at 9:51 amChair Force, that’s good. We used to call them Chairborne Rangers but that was for the Army. Soltz is a force that will not be ignored.
God bless Jon Soltz and the cause he stands for.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:02 am#394 Upside00; What part of Nam were you in? I was a Navy corpsman, 3rd MarDiv, I Corps(Indian country). If yellow dog were in my outfit, he’d be killed the 1st day out, either from Mr. Charles in front, or the grunts from behind him.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Hey Doc! Good to know you!
I was in Air Sea Rescue (ARRS) attached to first the 12th TAC and then the 483rd, with duty at Cam Ranh and in Pleiku. Spent some time on the ground but nothing like you Gyrenes. Got my PH from a stray piece of shrapnel while waiting out my own extraction after the penetrator was unclipped due to some bad stuff from the ground.
You corpsmen were the best with the biggest brass ones.
And it is funny how the trolls here never served but can’t stand that others did and are against this illegal war. Probably from playing too many x-box war games. They don’t have a clue about reality. Is very safe to fight from the safety of the keyboard and joystick, I guess.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:11 amGet used to it people. The right-wing hasn’t even started our assault on you people yet.
The left always says you have to wear a uniform to be pro-war, yet you find a way to insult even the non-chickenhawk right-wing. See the Swiftboat Veterans for truth for an idea of what will happen to Hitlery come next fall.
Democrats CANNOT win a general election. You just don’t have the stomach to fight wars.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:36 amI love how upset Democrats get when they are called un-American. That’s because it’s true.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:45 amDemocrats CANNOT win a general election. You just don’t have the stomach to fight wars.
Comment by Democrats are LIARS
We fight AND win the important and legal ones. Maybe you forgot who was President during WWI and WWII (Wilson and Roosevelt, both DEMS).
But the Chickenhawk Repugs are still trying to figure out what went wrong after AWOL Dubya, in his codpice said “Mission Accomplished”.
You Repugs must be SOOO PROUD! Will take another DEM to pull your collective asses out of the fire, one more time.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:23 am#651 – you are delusional. A Dem started Vietnam and a GOP President got stuck with that mess plus LBJ’s hateful, un-American base.
As for WWII, you would have fought tooth and nail against the tactics used to win that war. Japanese were tortured – they were sent off to camps by FDR. Would you let Bush do that to Muslims? AND FDR kept the press off the battlefield – imagine if Bushitler did that? AND lastly, the liberals today would scream if Truman bombed the Japanese to win a war.
So yes, Democrats CAN win wars. BUT you are the not a Democrat who could win. You are a terrorist sympathizers hellbent on rolling back the safety of Americans to attack Bush. FDR and Truman would be ashamed of you and your un-AMERICAN ilk.
August 9th, 2007 at 11:27 amSo yes, Democrats CAN win wars. BUT you are the not a Democrat who could win. You are a terrorist sympathizers hellbent on rolling back the safety of Americans to attack Bush. FDR and Truman would be ashamed of you and your un-AMERICAN ilk.
Comment by Democrats are LIARS
Project much? You have a major anger management issue and have the delusional behavior going here.
I was in Vietnam and didn’t incude it in this list as it also was an illegal war and was a no-win situation, given the way it was fought and the lack of leadership it had, just like this Clusterf@ck in Iraq.
BTW, how many tours have you served?
August 9th, 2007 at 11:41 amGregory of Nazianzus…You are a piece of Shit!!
You don’t know anything about the troops. Do you
really think they like what Neo-Cons have turned
Iraq into. Cut the support the troops bullshit, it
doesn’t work anymore!
August 9th, 2007 at 12:03 pmComment by NamVet — August 9, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
Amazing how all the BushCo Trolls here are so supportive of the war, but like Dubya, don’t care about the troops fighting it or respect them by not allowing the fallen to be shown or not wanting any amputees in the Bush Backdrop pictures.
They are perfectly content to fire from behind their M79 Grenade launcher/Xbox keyboard, while trying to figure out what a DD214 is and what DEROS means.
Guess when Chickenhawks see their own kind, they fall in love!
August 9th, 2007 at 1:05 pmIs that “stabbing in the back” as opposed to shooting them in the head like Tillman ?
August 9th, 2007 at 2:42 pmGregory of Nazianzus…You are a piece of Shit!!
You don’t know anything about the troops. Do you
really think they like what Neo-Cons have turned
Iraq into. Cut the support the troops bullshit, it
doesn’t work anymore!
Comment by NamVet — August 9, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
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You don’t want to support the troops?
August 9th, 2007 at 3:09 pmObviously you don’t speak to many troops — I just returned from Iraq after serving my THIRD tour, and every man in my command is glad to be doing their job. Yes, they would rather be at home with their families, but they understand (unlike you) that what they are doing needs to be done, and they understand they are fighting for the betterment of others — exactly what they signed on the dotted line to do. This bickering and wanting us to lose in Iraq talk really ashames me, and pisses off my fellow Marines.
Want us to win? Pull out the cameras, and take off our choke-collars, we’ll win this war in 6 weeks — you won’t like how we do it, but we’ll secure the country the way we were trained…
Of course, you won’t like anything we do under the command of our current CiC. God I hope we don’t elect another Clinton, when he was in office he GUTTED our funding and did NOTHING for the troops. Perhaps you people should do some research on what this President has done for us, more than any other President in the past 30 years, that’s for damn sure.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:10 pmEternalMarine; my GAWD! you sound JUST LIKE A NAZI. , who supported their fuehrer starting WWII. Go read about the Nuremberg tribunals, play close attention to chief prosecuter(Associate Supreme Court Justice) Robert Jackson… the ultimate war crime is starting a war (Hitler & Bush). Note the guilty verdicts that followed.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:28 pmComment by EternalMarine — August 9, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Lucky for you you are an eternal marine. No need for that VA hospital, the veteran’s benefits, the PTSD treatment. All cut back by George W. Bush.
we’ll win this war in 6 weeks — you won’t like how we do it, but we’ll secure the country the way we were trained…
Please explain this sentence – I’m curious what ‘win this war’ means to you and what objective criteria will allow you and us to agree on you meeting this objective. Is it a high score? Do you get a free game? And what won’t I like about how you do it? Have you decided on an illegal course of action under the Geneva Conventions governing Occupying Forces?
Is this part of the plan? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neyqL2aRpVU&mode=related&search=
Or this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/03/12/nsas12.xml
August 9th, 2007 at 4:05 pmComment by EternalMarine — August 9, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
We can no longer win militarily in Iraq.
August 9th, 2007 at 4:30 pmComment by EternalMarine — August 9, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
I never understood what the Brits meant by ‘all the gear and no idea’ until this post.
August 9th, 2007 at 5:13 pmEternal Marine – With the findings in for a change at Walter Reed …Bush’s comment was he saw no reason for immediate action.”
Bet that makes you feel real good putting on that gear in 130 degree heat. I watched the wounded in front of Congress asking for care after waiting 2 years or more, or being told it was a pre-disposition problem and the VA would not cover it. His humvee was blown up and the metal hit him in the head, unconscious for days.
It is wonderful you value your brothers in combat but there are problems and Bush is not there helping you or appreciating your sacrifice.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:26 pmOh and Tony Snow’s comment when asked how he felt about the number casualties, “It’s only a number.” Yes, Tony is only a lapdog but not a very smart one at that.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:31 pmEternalMarine=
I worked next to afew “eternal Marines’ who served in Vietnam…they went to “kill some gooks”, and then get themselves Veterans bonus points to get their jobs.
Like Vietnam, where we trumped up some justifiction to move some stagnant defense funded shelf stock, Iraq is another killing ground primed for for lots of “patriotic” boys and girls to take out their frustrations.
August 10th, 2007 at 12:49 amIt is becoming difficult to read the comments when thoughtful comment is constantly hijacked by ugly, pitiful and divisive trolls.
On the bright side, though, it may be an indication that this site is getting it right, because the neocons are SO intent on disrupting and thwarting it. So plug on, folks. You are doing something right, or the trolls wouldn’t care enough to visit, let alone to be so virulent in there ridiculousness.
The whole question of what it means to “support the troops” is being hijacked by idiots who want a perpetual war–good for rich peoples’ portfolios but not for the troops–and by punks who enjoy the pain of others(blown up any frogs lately Mr. P? No you’ve moved up to blowing up people). Putting an inadequate number of troops into a battle, causing them to fight without proper armor, demolishing the infrastructure of a nation while failing to anticipate the fallout from removing a nations’ government has served no cause other than the so called Iraq aq, and the self same lovers of endless war.
The troops also have loved ones and children, who are victims of fear and worry and loss.
The whole “support the troops” thing is a hijacking of the true issues of accountability for poor planning and poor execution if a poor plan. Reminds me of the blame game going around about who will be “responsible” for the next attack. Everybody wants to evade that label, so they punt the issue–along with the constitution–
Sophistry is the root of a lot of this corruption. Repeating the same erroneous “facts” does not make them true, even for poorly potty trained trolls. Nor for political pundits.
There is no hiding from this mucky mess. The common folks who have been abused by MSM logic and falsehood are now under surveillance by U2s and ATT, making an uprising even more difficult, even as the awful truth becomes more clear.
Trouble in doggy land.
August 10th, 2007 at 9:27 amKARL ROVE HAS SENT IN HIS RESIGNATION!
August 13th, 2007 at 5:13 am